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Herc Hasn't Seen The Final ENTERPRISE Of Sweeps!!Reeves-Stevenses' Klingon Konklusion!!
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"Reread the charter. Article 14, Section 31."
I am – Hercules!!
And it breaks my dang heart! It's the last new episode we get until April 15, it explains what Malcolm Reed’s been up to, it explains how Kirk’s Klingons all looked so human, and it was authored by Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens.
The Reeves-Stevenses wrote what are easily this season’s best episodes, “The Forge” and “Observer Effect.” It’s my fondest hope that when Paramount relaunches “Star Trek” at some point, these two are still young and healthy enough to be put in charge of the whole shebang. They know series lore as well as the geekiest Trekker and, more importantly, they demonstrate a stellar faculty for characterization, plot and dialog.
In related news, my sources at Paramount indicate there will be some sort of Trek-tied announcement on Monday.
HERC'S FRIDAY MORNING UPDATE: Just to clarify, Monday's Paramount announcement does NOT concern a new Trek movie or series.
8 p.m. Friday. UPN.
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But somehow I doubt it.
Manny Coto is the SHIT. FUCK UPN!
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wish it weren't true though
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The wigs at Paramount will probably announce an Enterprise TV movie or some other bone for the fans. Viacom has been taking it on the chin, no way they'll bring the show back, production costs are too high. They could try and sell it into syndication. Or, dare we dream, Paramount announces they've kicked Berman's ass to the street and begged Ron Moore to come back.
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There about to release a press report that three anonymous donors are contributing $3 million to the campaign.
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Clarification post!
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Fire the old producers and get new ones. There needs to be new blood in the Star Trek franchise. ENTERPRISE didn't live up to the hype from its producers and turned out to be the same Star Trek story but with old technology. It really didn't get into history. It was only a gimmick. Same with the possible Sta Wars TV series. If it's done right it might turn out better than the movies since to you have more room for story and character development.
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...But it will NOT revolve around any existing show or involve any cast members we've seen. This is already being reported on other geek sites. They're going to be announcing that they've hired a writer -- I think some sites have a name already too -- to draft a screenplay for a big screen relaunch that centers on ALL NEW characters set in a time period AWAY from any existing show. Apparently the studio figures if they have to temporarily shelve the franchise and then bring it back, and more importantly find a way to get people interested in TREK again, they might as well roll the dice and go the route of doing it on the big screen to try and get some big time (ie. Star Wars-like) coin out of the next incarnation.
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I think if Les was smart he'd make an Ebay auction for some charity to be the temp security guard for a day to drive the golf cart that kicks Berman off the lot. You get fitted for a uniform, get to lug his Xerox box of crap to the back of the cart, call the towing company to have his car towed to the street, then you get to piss on his name on his reserved spot, which has been treated with a chemical that reacts to piss and burns off his name FOREVER, finally you get to push him into the golf cart and drive his ass off the lot, with hundreds of Trek fans chanting your name the entire time... or chanting DEATH DEATH DEATH. I would bid Ten Grand right now for the chance to do that, I'm sure others would push it up over the million dollar mark.
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Feb 25, 2005 8:03:05 AM CST
Read The Reeves-Stevenses' book FEDERATION and weep until you bl
by drath
Because it can never be made, and that overrated movie First Contact contradicted it. They explain everything from the meaning of the starfleet insignia to why women in the enlightened future wear miniskirts (the humans anyway, the aliens were just sluts). Required viewing before you read it: Original series episodes "Metamorphosis," "City on the Edge of Forever," "Requiem for Methuselah," and "Journey to Babel," as well the Next Generation episode "Sarek."
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Feb 25, 2005 8:16:42 AM CST
Best TREK novel set in the aerly days of the Federation...
by renonevada2000
John M Ford's HOW MUCH FOR JUST THE PLANET?. It ends in a pie fight between humans and klingons! It doesn't get much better than that!
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We all know why TOS Klingons looked the way they do. It's because the show didn't have the budget to do good makeup. It's a TV show, Klingons aren't real. Do we really need 3 episodes explaining that it really wasn't 60's budget constraints, but a mutant space virus that made Kirk's Klingons look lame? What's next, a 4 episode story arc explaining some technology regression that made all of Kirk's floppy disks look like plastic coasters?
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Feb 25, 2005 9:41:45 AM CST
Hey, the Alien Nation "consolation prize" movies were quite good
by symphy
I wouldn't mind if they made a couple of Enterprise telefilms like Alien Nation -- I mean, at least one, which could be divided into two episodes for the syndication package to finally reach the magic 100! :)
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I never bought this "we didn't have the makeup" thing. The Telosians were one of the most well-conceived and makeup-elaborate creatures ever, and that was in the pilot! If they could do that, they could do forehead ridges (if they had chosen to).
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I know that it contradicts that book, but come on, it and Wrath of Kahn are definately the two best movies, and are often much better than many of the tv episodes. It certainly beats almost all of Voyager's run. Still though, I would love to see this pair in charge of the star trek franchise. Ron Moore has his own thing going on, he won't come back. Besides, I am begining to think that Moore has too many religious issues he needs to work through before coming back to trek. I hope the announcement on Monday is that they still intend to shelve trek for another decade and let some new ideas work up though. Then get ready for Star Trek: The third generation. Ha ha ha
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...but I'm still looking forward to a good old ridiculous-yet-geek-friendly explanation of the forehead ridges thing. That would be a fine note for Trek to go out on for a while. And a new movie might not be a bad idea, assuming Monday's announcement marks the beginning of the development process and we're still two or three years out from a finished product. Gives folks time to breathe... forget the things that need forgetting and remember the things that need remembering.
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Is because Bashir and Worf actually acknowledged the differences in "Trials and Tribble-ations".
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My sources tell me the Monday announcement is NOT tied to a new Trek movie or series
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The scene in Trials and Tribble-ations was the perfect solution. "We don't speak of it." Period. Further discussion is NOT required. It was a clever, elegant solution. And now it's ruined by literalists.
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The exchange in "Trials & Tribble-ations" was a joke. Like Shatner's "get a life" on SNL, this was a jab at those who take Star Trek too seriously. Worf's vague explanation and saying he didn't want to talk about it was saying to the audience to ignore the discrepencies and just enjoy the episode. Basically, not to worry why they look different, just accept it. If one is to take that as anything other than a wink at the audience then you are really opening a can of worms. And I don't mean you just have to explain the difference in Klingon physique. If Klingons looked so different in Kirk's time, why wouldn't the others, especially Bashir being a doctor, know about this. The way the Klingons looked in Kirk's time would be documented. Isn't this one of the things Federation Cadets would learn in their Klingon classes at the Academy?
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...and I'm sad to see it go. The folks on it seem real rather than a boatload of pompus utopian gits. I liked last season, but the short attention span of your arc-averse typical trekker porobably could handle it. What? Everything isn't resolved by the end of the episode with the modulation of a fooberon inverse antimatter confinement matrix? OMG!!!?!?!?!1111 I concur that Manny Coto and the current crop of writers kick ass.
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Feb 25, 2005 2:33:24 PM CST
It may not be necessary to explain the differences in Klingons,
by prof. pop-cult
Isn't that what watching this TV show, or any other for that matter, should be about? FUN? While it may seem "unnecessary" to some viewers, if they can tell a good story and have fun with it, then why the hell NOT? Next week's episode, they visit the mirror universe, but why should they do that, too? It's "unnecessary" too, right?
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...cutest, I think I'll settle for secondhand accounts of it on Tuesday. There are some things I just don't want to know firsthand about my fellow talkbackers. ;)
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In the DS9 episode in question, would have been for Worf to change into a regular TOS Klingon when they went back in time, and have NOBODY NOTICE. You know, just act like nothing is different? That would've been awesome. (Not my idea, somebody at TrekBBS said it at some point.)
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Feb 25, 2005 5:15:20 PM CST
Maybe the announcement is that Paramount will commission a four-
by prof. pop-cult
Seems like that could be a logical compromise. Produce and air two TV movies that air during the two Fridays of November sweeps 2005.
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Kind of sane,level headed, nonego driven posting this time! I echo Cutesofborg's post " Nice to see ". I look forward to the rest of the arc and about the klingon ridge explanation I again say why not? A future Enterprise mini series would be nice. Lots of time for a good script and more money for effects!
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Roddenberry's story was that the Klingons Kirk met were part of an attempt to infiltrate the Federation disguised as humans. Now we get this new explaination that it was a disease. B&B know no bounds. Sure. Re-launch Trek. Why not? B&B seem determined to do away with everything Roddenberry did, and change it into their own baby. A relaunch would be shitting on Gene's memory, but I don't think B&B and Paramount give a damn.
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You were already proven wrong about this last week. If you have proof of something we don't know about please provide it.
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I've been trying to support Enterprise as much as I could. I really thought they were turning it around in the last season but trying to explain the Klingon ridge thing? Holy shit. Try to reconcile this series with the original series, ignoring the fact that this series has obviously more advanced technology and design than the original series....God what a cock up. Ok, do the Romulans have the same fucking disease with their forehead ridges? Enterprise-good riddance.
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Feb 25, 2005 10:56:20 PM CST
no, cutest. it does not involve a fifth season of Enterprise ei
by hercules
Sorry.
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Feb 26, 2005 12:09:17 AM CST
It's astonishing that people would protest outside Paramount at
by scrumdiddly
how about paying for someone else to make a BETTER series?
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how well BSG is doing in the hands of Ron Moore and realize what a hack Berman is. Thanks for riding Trek into the ground, jerkwad.
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OK, I
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I was looking forward to the 3 episode story arc explaining why Star Fleet replaced all the digital displays on starship's instrument pamels with little numbered plastic wheels in TOS time. Maybe it was to thwart an attempt by a then-unknown alien threat (time-travelling Borg) to assimilate Star Fleet technology through LED displays.
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But Malcolm should have died saving Trip at the start of the episode. Now that he's given up being a super spy and embraced his inner boring, I have no need for him any more. And while I appreciated the plotting, I am a little surprised that Phlox would purposely infect Drek's ship.
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... the lame way they got Malcolm out of the brig took me out of the episode for several minutes. He's the only person who could have shot the line between the ships? Once attached to the line, Trip had CLIMB? awsomely dumb section of a very good show -
But what a way to go!!! Man THIS is how this show should have been from the beginning: integrating fresh stories into the Trek canon. VERY nice TV (and while I'm not a Jolene Blaylock fan, her behind looked extremely tasty last night in those little suits! Woo-HOO!)
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It really makes me sad that this is the end for Enterprise. I'll really miss this show. As many have said just as it was really getting good. Now that we're getting closer to the time of the Federation and there's more than one NX class starship things are really getting interesting. What a shame. However I'll bet the finale is a doozy!
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This series is getting much better its a shame its over in a few episodes..maybe the powers that be will hire new exec's for the next series , new exec's that dont think its ok to throw away the first 2 or 3 seasons like has happened with everyone of Bermans series ,cause by the time the show gets on track , it has already lost most of the fans and gets rotten ratings.
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Captain heroically risks himself to save comrade...cgi dogfight between Enterprise and Klingons....doctor comes up with cure, in the midst of the battle no less, to the mutating gene, saving millions of lives...good guys survive to fight again. Everyone learns a valuable lesson about teamwork. Ho-hum.
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I think it might have already been mentioned, but there are 3 individuals, who were also associated with that whole space plane thing, who were willing to contribute 3 million to saving Enterprise. Now that would be amazing! At least that Star Trek band Warp 11's new album comes out in 14 days! It's called "Boldly Go Down on Me", and it rocks! Check out the song "She Make It So" which is being played all over Northern CA on the site, www.warp11.com or chat about the band with all the "crewmen" (that's what Warp 11 fans call themselves" at www.warp11bb.com. Warp!
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Feb 26, 2005 6:21:10 PM CST
Okay, lets throw this "continuity" up against the wall and see w
by l.h.puttgrass
In chronological order: 1. (Enterprise EP) Bumpy-Headed Klingon lands on Earth. So we know they have bumpy heads. 2. (Enterprise EP) Bumpy-Headed Klingons are cured of "Augment" disease with the help of Dr. Phlox and Star Fleet involvement. The cure makes them all look human. 3. (Star Trek TOS Tribble EP) Kirk meets Human-Looking Klingons on space station. Human-Looking Klingon Spy impersonates Federation Official for the purpose of sabotage. Klingon Spy is discovered by tribbles and confirmed by tricorder scan. No one mentions the Klingons former appearance. Not even during a bar-fight during which alot of famous taunting and garbage scow talk occurred. Everybody seems okay with Human-Looking Klingons. 4. (ST-TOS EP's til cancelation) Human-Looking Klingons are everywhere. It ain't no secret. 5. (ST-TMP movie) Bumpy-Headed Klingons show up. No one cares. 6. (ST-2-thru to infinity,ST-TNG,ST_DS9) Bumpy-Headed Klingons are everywhere. Nobody says anything. 7. (ST-DS9 Tribble-ations EP) Sisko's crew goes back in time to Kirk's Enterprise during the Tribbles EP. Everyone acts surprised by the Klingon's human appearance except for Worf, who doesn't want to talk about it. Hmmmmmmmm. Okay, I think I'm getting a headache. I'm going to lie down now. Maybe one of you guys can figure this crap out.
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1. Did we really need to know why there are different Klingons between TOS and the motion picture? 2. Section 31 is stupid, and it's a miracle they survived to the DS9 era; 3. Archer beams down to where Pholx is being held with a phaser and no MACO's or a damn red shirt security guard comes with him? Stupid; 4. The whole tether thingy was silly and the chessey effects reminded why Star Trek 5 sucked so much. Still, over all, it was a good action episode, despite Tucker and T'Pol's silly adolescent dialogue and Archer -once agian - having to play the punching bag (which is so boring, even during the Kirk era). This season has been better and I've watched it thinking this was how the series should've started. But then I'm reminded of the 76 episodes that came before the start of season three (whith only 2 or 3 being actually watchable) and I realize why it's too late to save this show. If Paramount wants another series in 2 or 3 years, I would let Manny Coto try his hand at it and leave Berman and Braga out of it. He's given me hope that if those two idiots are fone, Trek could have another rise in popularity. Also, don't cast such horrible actors to play the captians. Bakula's "acting" when he was yelling at Reed was proof that he was way over his head. For two series in a row, we've had really bad actors play the leads. I almost hoped to see more of the captain of the Columbia. She seemed more relaxed and in control than Archer ever has. He's cold and very impersonal -much like Janeway (Kate Mulgrew). Hernandez had -in some very few scenes - a more comforting appeal. She seemed more equipped to deal with a crisis situation. In the end though, wasting momey -and I realize its yours to waste - on a show that died a long time ago seems futile. Hell, I could use that money. It's all too late and that's the sad reality of it.
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From a Yahoo! New Article
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/eo/20050225/en_tv_eo/16008&e=1
However, even if Enterprise bites the dust, there's still a bright spot on the horizon for Star Trek fans.
Earlier this week, Variety reported that scribe Erik Jendresen (Band of Brothers) has been hired to pen the script for Star Trek XI, the latest installment in the long-running sci-fi franchise.
The project was reportedly shelved in January, but production is apparently back in motion, though Paramount has not yet set a release date for the film, which is rumored to focus on the Romulan War, which took place before the original series.
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Feb 26, 2005 9:16:29 PM CST
There are rich people with $3million to give to this show? Why d
by prof. pop-cult
That really confounds me. Star Trek is Paramount's property to do what they wish. Even if one could give them $50 million to produce an entire season, Paramount would probably say no.
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Are there any novels that address this secret organization within Starfleet? If there isn't, it would be a good subject matter for a book.
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They should just give all that money to you. Yeah not arrogant pompus, or ego driven at all.
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While speaking to Archer, Malcom's handler Harris stated a piece of Starfleet's charter, "Article (?), Section 31" to justify illegal actions taken in times of crisis.
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I thought Section 31 was one of the more interesting, recent plot lines in the Star Trek universe! Cutes is right you are a wet blanket. You do know how to pontificate. I'll give you that.
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Feb 27, 2005 1:31:49 PM CST
Professor, there's a whole novel series about Section 31...
by jim jam bongs
They were released a few years ago. They are set against the other Trek series.
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Picture this, my children of time: 51 year-old Real Deal, sitting all alone in her living room, surrounded by Star Trek DVD's and video's (cause she recorded them all also), plates, toys and model ships. She watches every Trek episode, thinking they are brilliant and shakes her head when someone says it sucks a bit. She seems not phantom the idea that someone does not share her opinion that this show should not get cancelled (well, beyond cutesofborg). We are called trolls because while we still love the concept of Trek, we hate this current incarnation. We point out, line by line, what is wrong, and yet she thinks we're all wrong. It's a TV show, she proclaims. Just watch it. But she doesn't realize that the franchise is sagging. Paramount let Berman and Braga ruin it, and that is fact. They missed many opportunities to change this downward spiral, but they let them destroy it even more. True fans, the ones who know what the show can do under the right producers and writers, have said for years that they needed to go. But fans like Real Deal, who spent money going to conventions and drooling over the stars, have enabled this franchise to die. They've supported a bad thing, even though deep inside their fan hearts, they know the show is no longer what it was and could be. And sadly, those are the fans that Paramount listens too. The sad fact is in 4 years Star Trek: Enterprise went from 5.9 million viewers to 2.5. Where and why did these fans leave? Answer me that, Real Deal, since you seem to have all the knowledge. Too many cable channels? I don't think so. Too many other options? Maybe, but I hope they went and watched Battlestar instead of those boring CSI shows (predictable crap). I know I'm lame. I know I can "pontificate", I can be arrogant, vain, self-important and snooty. It's just I won't blindly follow like you do, never raising a hand to ask a question. You accept the drivil just because you don't want to see Star Trek go away. I'm willing to let it go, with hopes that if Paramount decides a new Trek is needed, they'll learn from these mistakes. And the errors I've pointed out have come from a shit load of other people. So it's just not me saying what needs to change. Real Deal, you seem to be a sad little old lady who can't accept that Trek has stumbled and needs to go away. You ask so little from it, that you are willing to sit through one bad episode after another. I have gone on record many times to say this is a better season (beyond the season opener). Manny Coto has done a bang up job, but he never had a chance. As for the section 31 comment, I agree with you, it is a good idea. My point was this version of Section 31 -what they did - was stupid. They made them a bunch of bozo's instead of the secret police they should have been. So get off your little prosaic rant and accept the fact that it was you -and people who let things remain static and unchanged - that killed Trek. You demanded nothing, and that's what you are going to get.
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I really don't get these arguments about the technology in Enterprise appearing more advanced than the original series. What do you expect? I love the original series too, but let's face it, even for the mid-1960s, the sets for TOS were cheesy. Look at what Kubrick did during the same period on 2001 with a few rear-projection panels. The only way they could make NX-01 appear technologically inferior to the original series would be to make Enterprise STEAM-powered with Commander Cody control panels. If any of the folks who keep whining about how NX-01 is "too advanced" has any artistic ability, please show us your rendition of what the bridge should look like. Show us a design that's obviously technologically inferior to Kirk's NCC-1701 that's not completely laughable, and I'll eat my words. Keep in mind that Enterprise is shot and broadcast in HD, which makes even the smallest flaw or detail very visible. Speaking of HD, I have to say that I've been very impressed by how well this season of Enterprise holds up on the big screen this season (despite the lowered budget). I was very impressed with the opening sequence with Trip's EVA transfer from Columbia to Enterpise. The CGI holds up remarkably well even on an 80-inch screen, which is more than I can say for a lot of other sci-fi shows.
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I agree that Section 31's actions were ill-advised, but so were some of the things the Gestapo and the Soviet NKVD did early in their history. These early blunders by Section 31 help to explain how and why the group goes even further underground in the future. If anything, I think it would be more unrealistic to depict Section 31, years before the Federation is even born, as an infallible covert super agency. At this point in the Star Trek timeline, does Section 31 even knows who it's real enemies are? I like the idea of Section 31 becoming more ruthless and cunning as the rest of human society becomes more utopian.
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www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671774778/
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Well I'm nothing like you say I am ( including I'm a guy! ). This pathetic attempt at character assaination just proves ego driven nature. I'm just a guy who loves science fiction. I've read it since I was in 3rd grade. I also recognize that Star Trek is still a viable and timely vehicle for science fiction on television. You have a problem with that I can understand. Since you obviosly hate to be wrong. Give your ego a rest already.
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The last few days just proves that there are still people out there that hunger for shows like Star Trek and even if it stays off the air proves you wrong EM.
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Just read it on Cinescape
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Feb 28, 2005 1:04:04 PM CST
"Just to clarify, Monday's Paramount announcement does NOT conce
by col. klink
Oops!
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Feb 28, 2005 3:01:16 PM CST
Real Deal (girl or guy?) still does not answer my question:
by electric_monk
4 years ago, Enterprise had 5.9 million viewers. It's now averaging 2.5. Where did they go? For you, the simpilistic answer is that there is more cable channels and more options. What you fail to realize (ego or not) is that ENT lost those viewers because B&B ruined the franchise. They gave the middle finger to all of us who want a character driven show. And you don't see that. You put blinders on, and pretend that the people who point out some of Trek flaws are fools, trolls and just don't understand Trek. Please, oh Real Deal, where has 3.4 million viewers gone?
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Your just right and we're all wrong! I get it. What you refuse to see is that I acknowledge that STE was weak in the first season.
So was TNG, and DS9, And especially STV! I saw Enterprise as just following the trend. I have no special love for B & B however I knew this show would improve. Some shows ( not just ST ) are like that. The problem is that with today's jaded public ( and little boys on the internet getting their jollies ) a show just doesn't get the same kind of chance to find it's nich like they used to. Truth be known unless a show can't succeed in the first 5 episodes now days it's doomed. I think that's pathetic because a lot of good shows get axed before they have a chance ( by the way some of these shows turn out to be better than ones that have been around for years ). I think that's just stupid and desperate on the TV execs part. Enterprise did get more than a fair shake because it's ST. The thing is EM you're just so wrong about Star Trek's time having passed. It just needs help. People still hunger for the kind of stories it has to tell. Otherwise it would really easy for you to go out on a street corner and lobby for people to give you 3 million dollars. Because they'd do that for just anyone. -
90 % of the anti trek comments here haven't been pointing out Trek's flaws. They've been cutsie wootsie little boy bathroom humor comments about T'pol's breasts or how many times you can use a slang word to discribe Enterprise as a body part in a paragraph. Yeah! Really insiteful.
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All this gnashing of teeth and rationalizations from the Enterprise faithful demonstrate that they just don't get it. Firefly and Battlestar Galactica have simply raised the bar for television sci-fi. Half-assed efforts just won't get it anymore. Look, I WANTED Enterprise to succeed, but it was just a weak show all around. They took a promising premise and squandered it. Only now, in the last few episodes, are they getting around to what the series SHOULD have been about all along: the founding of The United Federation of Planets and the events leading up to the universe that would become the world of Kirk and Spock. They just blew it, and those who can look upon the demise of this show with some degree of objectivity understand this. They also understand that Firefly and BSG are far superior shows in every category. Most will admit this in their heart of hearts.
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Anyway, whatever happened to that announcement? Are they just waiting until really late in the day to do it, or what? It's currently 4:30 Central and nada has been heard.
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Many shows get the ax long before they deserve, while shows like the WB's entire Friday night line up comes back year after year (and I'm still trying to figure out how Full House lasted 9 years). Star Trek has had a jaded history of not finding its feet until the third season. My point has been, that since VOY, Star Trek was not made for you or me, but for those straight white teenage boys that networks think are appointment bound TV viewers. Or, more so, the absentee viewer. We know them, the ones who can't watch week to week, or can't figure out the VCR (or now TIVO) or who just want to watch it when they feel like it. So a character driven show Trek should be is replaced by the things you mentioned. This is what needs to stop. But, I said this for 7 seasons of VOY and it still blew chunks. ENT has just copied the same mistakes VOY did. I STILL LIKE STAR TREK. But, objectively, I'm also willing to see it go until the bad taste B & B have left in many fans mouths subsides. But you would think after a 100 episode, this show would've seen a better ratings increase, but it has lost 3.4 million viewers in 4 years. You have to look at those facts when considering coming back for a 5th season. Star Trek: Enterprise could succeed on Sci Fi, but its budget would be cut (even more than this season)-and forced to move north. The irony part is that the show -if moved to Vancouver - would need to return to more character based shows. In the end, I willing to let it rest for while, and you're willing to not to. We'll never agree. So lets look at the show from acting (you know how I hate Bakula) and how its still not a character driven show. And, DS9 rules.
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But I like Bakula. It could be he just wasn't the right choice for the role. Howevwer as a captin he's grown on me. As far DS9 goes it was great after the 3rd year. The first couple were a real snore fest however. I have them all on DVD and I've tried to watch the first 2 years. I thought I'd give them a chance again but they just would put me to sleep. It's why they had the Dominion War. They had to spice things up. a bit.
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I think if you look at the warp drive missile / ship from First Contact, it points you in the right direction. The direction I would have wanted this ship to take. Unfortunately, they couldn't really do this show right, because that would have meant ships with no artificial gravity and with nukes as weapons, and it would have been hugely expensive to do unless you built big limitations into your plots. But leaving the budget to one side and looking at story only, the technology is, in fact, too advanced, and between that and all the extra alien races [and the early appearances of old standby favorites] the Enterprise universe just felt too "full".
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So where's this announcement? I checked www.paramount.com and their Enterprise page hasn't been updated since season 3
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The difference in tech between ENT tech and TOS tech is about the same as the difference between TOS tech and TNG tech. That is, it's mostly a matter of degree instead of invention, and things in the future are better/bigger/stronger/faster. The Enterprise-D is faster/bigger/more powerful than the Enterprise, which is faster/bigger/more powerful than the NX-01. As for the design of the NX-01, why is it more "futuristic" than the NCC-1701? People tend to confuse (mostly external) aesthetic design choices with the capabilities of the craft. The NX-01 looks like our vision of "futuristic" ships, just like the NCC-1701 looks like the 1960's vision of "futuristic" ships. That doesn't mean that the NX-01 is somehow inherently "more futuristic" than Kirk's ship; it just means we think different things look cool now. You don't have to go back to a 1960's design vision in order to be less futuristic. Every generation looks at things differently. Look at how the design of cars has changed over the last 100 years.
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One thing that I was hoping to see over the past 4 years was an instance where some design issue on the Enterprise failed disastrously. I've always felt that NX-01 was too perfect from day one for a ship that's supposedly the first of its kind. Technology failures would have been more realistic, while providing a sense of risk and uncertainty that was lacking in the series. It also could have been used to explain the gradual evolution of Starfleet ships into the familiar TOS design with separate primary and secondary hulls.
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The news is out about a new movie in development, but you said it wasn't about that. So what WAS it?
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