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Something Happened On CARNIVALE Sunday Night''
I am – Hercules!!
I thought things stopped happening on “Carvnivale” last season. Anyway, isn't everybody watching that bland nonsense about middle-aged hausfraus at 9 p.m.?
I was busy watching the "SNL" thing, but the “L Word” premiere talkback is filling up with some kind of buzz, so here’s another talkback.
Talkbackers! Do I have to watch all those other season-two episodes to figure out what happened tonight?
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But I'll tell ya tomorrow!
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I only finished wathing the first season because there was nothing else on at the time, (I can watch it at 6pm, getting the east coast feed over here on the west coast)and was hoping that something would happen.(Which never did) This season has been mucho fulfilling. If you havent watched it up till know, it may be confusing, but I scudder, I mean shudder at the revelations to come
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This was completely unexpected tonight (at least for me, I don't watch previews for the next week). This is season finale material. Can't wait to see how this works out over the next few episodes.
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It's 15 minutes shorter than a full hour's episode. But more happens in the last 5 minutes of this one episode than some TV series have during an entire season. LOTS of mysteries revealed in this one!
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That was awesome. Yes, Herc watch the previous episodes. Man-what happens now??? And by the way, I picked out the connection between Management and you know who back in season one. Also-is Sophie gone forever?
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Feb 21, 2005 12:32:22 AM CST
Not to put too fine a point on it Herc, but here's just *one* re
by cknightshift
We finally come face to face (maybe more than some can tolerate) with a certain Mr. Belyakov.
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She's left to strike it out on her own. She needs employment. And maids are dropping like flies over at Brother Justin's house.
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Yah buddy ya might want to do some looking and catch up 'cuz it's been WAY more dense/cerebral than last year. If season 1 was putting the pieces on the board then season 2 has been watching what those pieces finally *do*... and it's been a hella lot. Last week the "burned orphanage" plot was VERY evil-ly wrapped up (maybe) and Ben found his grandmother, Scudder's mother (we also learn that Ben's grandfather helped Nathan Bedford Forrest found the Ku Klux Klan). Justin is turning into quite the Father Coughlin figure but in a very Jim Jones/Randall Flagg sorta way. Definitely worth looking into amigo :-)
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Sophie? Working at Justin's house? That...that can't happen....can it?
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All of the above is cool and all...but the best part of tonight's ep was the stripper chick gettin naked and taking it up the ass.
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Suhweet...
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so I know that Brother Justin and his now revealed father Mr. Belyakov are the tree tattooed prophets, but i'm still not absolutely sure on who's good and who's evil, ofcourse it's leaning towards ben being good, but did anyone else notice how evil it was suffocating that whole town? anybody have any absolute clarity on who's good or evil?
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So, does that mean that Sophie is Iris and Justin's half sister?
P.S. Kudos to HBO to having a chick take it up the ass. Now THAT'S groundbreaking. -
Ok, first off, I admit I have been a little confused on what exactly the "usher's" role is in all of this. The tatooed man was the previous usher for Justin and Bialiakoff. Therefore, Bialiakoff is NOT Sophie's father. The usher was. Second, you can bet your ass Sohpie will return. Ben had visions of kissing her at ground zero. They are CONNECTED. As for good and evil, that's one of those things the show leaves up, for now. We still don't know which of the previous two battlers (scudder and bialiakoff) was the child of darkness and the child of light. Could be an interesting revelation. Lastly, if anyone can explain the function of the ushers, and why there isn't an usher this season, or if Justin is the usher, or if the usher is both the child of darkness AND the usher, I'd greatly appreciate it. Also, what is everyone's take on the last shot of the episode. Management grabs Ben, after appearing seemingly dead when lights in carnival go out, and when he grabs him, the lights come back on. Is management dead? Was it one last bit of life to breath a little of management's soul/power into the carnivale to stay there forever. Such an aburpt ending. I don't mind a short episode...but, wow, give us an epilogue or SOMETHING...hehehe
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Wow what a great episode depite it ending 15 minutes early, a lot of shit happened. I think Scudder set this whole thing up going by Samson's season opening monologues. Something to the effect of the dark one trying to escape his destiny. For some reason he needed Ben to kill Managment for him, the reason why I can't figure. He's got powers too and one would assume he knows how to use them, why the hell is he asking his son to protect him? I think we're going to get a big reveal next week.
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The connection between management and Justin was expected considering the russian backgrounds - nice to get it out of the way though.
I saw an interesting comment on a BBD somewhere saying that the Ben/Sophie thing mirrored the Justin/Iris thing - what with both being brother/sister and both seemingly unable to have ... relations with anyone outside the family without driving them insane.
As to who's good/bad - I understand the compulsion being that this is George Bush's Black/White america but I'm beginning to believe that they are simply opposites, with both being different shades of gray. -
The good: season 2 actually makes sense. You could, if asked, actually explain to another human being what the hell is going on. The bad: it is starting to drag. We've had basically the same ongoing plot in every episode thus far. If the rest of the season continues like this, it would be a huge waste.
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Feb 21, 2005 11:43:57 AM CST
Now that I think about it, Management KNEW that Ben would kill h
by aceattorney
Part of Ben's growth to become the man he is destined to be...
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I was sitting back and watching the first 20mins of Carnivale... thinking, "man they need to speed up this show a bit... it's starting to lag..." then all of sudden, we hit the 40min mark in the show and it's in full force... WOW. I guess we're not surprised that the creature of darkness gave birth to Justin and his piece of shit sister... OMG!!! Not to mention, Deadwood is around the corner!!! You guys are lucky fucks though... I am leaving for Africa for 2 years for the Peace Corps. and will have to wait to see not only Lost, but also Alias, Deadwood, Carnivale, BSG, and Arrested Development on DVD..... sigh.... oh well, at least i'll get a few eps. of Deadwood's cocksucking wearing in!!!
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Feb 21, 2005 1:38:31 PM CST
Why is no one talking about the fact that Management had blue bl
by batutta
Or was the tint on my TV off. Is he a demon, or satan himself? Questions...
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Damn. That hurts my eyes. For the record, the plural of "Hausfrau" is "Hausfrauen".
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So who's the creature of light and who's the creature of darkness? Belyakov apparently wasn't aiming to kill Scudder by the time the show rolled around. And he forced the name of Ben's rival out of the other man's mouth -- Alexei Belyakov. Since Ben was "expected" when Management picked him up, does that mean both were given the name of the OPPOSITE rival? Or simply the next generation?
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Shortly after his projectile vomit,when he deadpans, "What a day to lose the maid". LMFAO
That one almost beat Stumpy's line from last weeks episode, "Hello Elephant". God I love this show. -
remember in the first season, the visions Hawkins kept having where the Usher cut his hand and it bled blue?
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Last night's episode was the best of the season. SPOILER SPACE Three avatars in one room! Holy shit! END SPOILERS
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Is it me, or does the girl that was distracting Sampson look an awful lot like Angelina Jolie with a prosthetic on? Her tone of voice, her lips, the way she moves. Is this a secret casting decision?
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Belyakov didn't realize it was Alexei because he didn't recognize him. He thought his son was dead. It's logical to assume that he thought the position was passed on to the next in line.
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i assumed that belaykov was an usher because although there wasn't a visible tattoo, he did bleed purple or blue or whatever, and if you remember a few episodes back when justin had a sort of flashback of an usher cutting his hand, that usher bled purple too. i think the "usher" doesn't usher in the next creature of darkness, rather that he is the creature of darkness and that he is to usher some sort of apocalypse, atomic bomb maybe? also don't forget brother justin's tree tatoo, and the fact that he was supposed to become the usher when scudder dies. maybe the past ushers didn't get their job done, so it keeps on going generation to generation
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Didn't you see her fucking hands?
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Well, if Angelina Jolie had developed a habit of dipping her face in sulfuric acid like Scudder you would have a point.
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managemtn needed ben to kill him so ben could finally go about killing brother justin. management never wanted scudder dead. if justin kills scudder, he can take over as the dark prophet.
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The Russian was the prophet of the light for his generation. Scudder was that of darkness, but he wanted no part of being an avatar, so he took himself out of the game. In the next generation, the families are the same but the roles have switched - Ben, child of the prophet of darkness, represents light, while Justin is the dark one. Where Sophie fits in is anyone's guess. As for the scorpian lady, she's a former newscaster from California, and she really does have Scorpian hands (there's a name for the syndrome I can't recall). She actually pitched the idea for the character. And kudos to HBO for having Libby ask for it up the ass (I dunno why, but it was something different, instead of the standard TV drama sex scene).
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First of all i am glad ben stopped messing around with snake lady..yuck!!.I like him and Sofie better..My question is, where does she fit in all of this? Can we possibly see her in justin's area next week?.. its seem like he's calling her or somethin..
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Is married to the announcer from HBO's boxing events Jim Lampley..she used to be nice looking way back when from what i heard of her..anyway the show rocks although I am pretty confused at some things..I do hope sofie ends up at Justins house that would be great if he bangs her and ben see's it somehow in his mind lol.
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What about her hands? I still can't tell. I mean with good enough makeup you could make Angelina Jolie look like that.
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Her name is Bree Walker Lampley, check her out on imdb.com. Its not Angelina Jolie.
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So..They're half-siblings? Same dad? Or, is Sophie Justin's half-sister? We saw Sophie's mother being raped by the tree-tattooed dude right?
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