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Star Trek: Enterprise 4.15 FAQ

What’s it called?

Who’s responsible?
Teleplay is credited to Mike Sussman (“Twilight,” “Strategem,” “E2,” “Home,” “The Augments,” “Kir’Shara,” “Babel One”), the best “Enterprise” writer not named Reeves-Stevens.

What does TV Guide say?
“As Trip prepares the Columbia, Enterprise’s sister vessel, for its maiden voyage, Phlox is shepherded by alien kidnappers, who require his skills to kill a mutated virus.”

What did Herc say about this one way back in November?
“With 4.15, ‘Affliction,’ it appears we get a kind-of prequel to the 1996 ‘Deep Space Nine’ episode “Trials and Tribble-ations.” Remember how Worf, horrified at sorry state of Klingon visages in Kirk’s era, explains to his fellow Starfleet officers that the human-like appearance of the Klingon warriors was nothing to be discussed with non-Klingons? … we will see Klingons inject green fluid into other Klingons - green fluid that may make many of them look like “comedian” and "Last Comic Standing" fixture Rich Vos!"

So. These “alien kidnappers”?
Klingons! Well, Rigellian agents of the Klingons. (As if that Targ in the episode’s opening seconds doesn’t make as much obvious.)

Didn’t Herc also say recently the Klingons were being injected with Arik Soong’s “Augment” DNA.
He did. And they are.

Okay, I maybe get why some Klingons of Kirk’s era might look human. But do we learn tonight why all Klingons of Kirk’s era looked humans?
It’s not hard to put together a scenario. The key to it all can be found in the TV Guide logline.

The big news?
“Affliction” is an episode teeming with surprises designed to set geek hearts aflutter. The biggest jaw-dropper arrives at the end of act one, which puts the Enterprise’s armory officer in an entirely new light. But there’s also an unexpected twist involving Trip, T’Pol … and Hoshi!!

So lots of Hoshi this week?
She wears a tight suede number to Phlox’s abduction.

What else is TV Guide not telling us?
Even Surak’s katra has a role to play this week.

You’ll tell us nothing more of the action on the Trip-T’Pol front?
The first scene aboard Enterprise this week is a Trip-T’Pol encounter. “Are you leaving because of me?” she queries.

Speaking of fronts, does the captain of NX-01 still “like-like” the ponytailed captain of NX-02?
Hernandez and Archer stick to their respective ships this week.

How does it end, spoiler-boy?
With much unresolved. “We’re out of options, Travis,” barks Archer. “Five point two.”

Herc’s rating for “Star Trek: Enterprise” 4.15?


The Hercules T. Strong Rating System:
***** better than we deserve
**** better than most motion pictures
*** actually worth your valuable time
** as horrible as most stuff on TV
* makes you quietly pray for bulletins

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  • Feb. 18, 2005, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Who threw up on the server?

    by Dr Ozymandias

    Holy Christ, I never thought that the design of this site could get worse...

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Redesign Sucks

    by Ricyteach

    This looks horrible.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 2:44 a.m. CST

    That's what I said

    by George Newman

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 3:28 a.m. CST

    The redesign is fine, but the Talkback interface still sucks.

    by ShutUpRob

    Switch to -- god, any actual BBS system. No amount of improvement in the graphics makes the Talkback architecture any less cumbersome and difficult to navigate, especially compared to the real BBS systems on every other website in existence.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 3:35 a.m. CST

    Date cancelled, watching Enterpoop

    by bubcus

    I miss Bloom County... wait... Opus is back... I should check that out. ANYWAY... this season is going so much better than the previous three... I could ALMOST handle reruns of it. Come to think of it, season three left me with a really sour taste in my mouth and albeit I enjoy Enterprise, it really does feel like a "watch once" series. Hey, thanks for the fun approach in telling us in teaser fashion... really gets my interest perked. Looking forward to seeing it.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Yay! Now everyone can start dissing Enterprise again, aahahaha

    by scrumdiddly

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Re-Design Is Fine, Font Sucks

    by BojTrek

    I might actually watch this episode tonight... the last episode I watched entirely was the Borg episode... After that I watched maybe 1-5 minutes of random episodes. Anyways, the new font sucks... design is OK, and things are not hard to find.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Yay! Now We Can See Immaturity On Display Again!

    by Real Deal

    I like the new design! It was about time for some kind of change.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 8:37 a.m. CST

    By The Way....

    by Real Deal

    Soumds like this might be a good episode. I've been waiting for this one. I guess in their hurry to diss enterprise they didn't notice about the interface change on the first page says: Stage one ".

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 10:14 a.m. CST

    enterprize sucks!!1!!!!

    by symphy

    i cant beleive anyone is stil watching that show1!!!! i could wright better stuff when i was 12 years old l0l! and i could make better special fx on my pc any time i wanted so its so stupid anyone still watches this crap. the only good scifi show was earth final conflict and if you don't think so you don't know what your talking about or are totally ignorant of what equals QUALITY!!!! my mom and I just watch enterprize together sumtimes just to make fun of the horibele acting and bad bad plots so stupid i crapped better stories. and t/pol is so ugly i'd never let her date me that's so gross. i have standards bring back jadzia!! maybe they can make a timetravvel plot and fbring her into the finale instead of ricker!!!!! so dummmmm everyhone is sooo dumm but me and enterprize sucksss and anyone who still watches is a baby, just a immature baby who doens't know anything. oh and the new redesign RULLEZZZ!! this is the best looking sight of ALL TIME NOW but Harry still sucks like Enterprize sucks its all stupid like boogers.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Coto rocks! Enterprise on the Sci-Fi Channel? New Interface = o

    by warp11

    I heard there is a good chance the Sci-Fi channel might redeem itself after cancelling such great shows as Farscape by picking up Enterprise. It might not be a for sure thing, but there is still a good chance. It would be great to watch Enterprise go on to being even better on the the Sci-Fi channel. Here is a great song "Yea Brother 3.0", by that amazing Star Trek band Warp 11. The band puts a version of Yea Brother on each of their albums and this is the bootleg to the latest version! The link to the download is in this thread! Warp!

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Is this Star Trek...

    by redtom

    ...shit still goin? oh wait, no, it's been cancelled.... hehehehehehahahahahohohohohohohehehehehehe...

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 11:02 a.m. CST

    There's just something...

    by Childe Roland

    ...inherently funny about a Trekkie ending an angry post aimed at fellow talkbackers with "Bitches!" I'm envisioning Jamie Kennedy in his B-Rad persona, but with a pocket protector. With that out of the way, I've actually been looking forward to this arc (with caution) since hearing what it would be about. Part of me thinks it wouold be nice to have some sort of fan-satisfactory explanation for the bumpy-to-smooth-to-bumpy transition, but the other part of me really enjoyed the tongue-in-cheek way Waorf dismissed the matter on DS9. Guess I'll have to see how they handle it. And speaking of how they handle things... if the Sci Fi Channel rumor is true, that's great for fans of the show. What would be even better for fans of Trek in general would be if they let the show go and let the franchise rest for a few years before going back tot he well. People might get thirsty again and appreciate it more.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Let Enterprise go and rest for a while -- forget trying to get t

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    It's for the better to let Enterprise go. I am intrigued by the notion of J. Michael Stracynski "rebooting" the Trek franchise.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 11:41 a.m. CST

    J. Michael Straczynski

    by meburma

    I'm not sure about him taking over. Not that I am saying I'm hoping the train wreck of Berman continues... I just read what he had to say to Sci-Fi Wire a few days ago and I didn't like his concept. Personally, too much history has been made in this franchise to try and bring it back to the "Kirk" era. That's part of the reason Enterprise sucks. You can't go back in time. Things must progress. That's what made TNG and DS9 work. They were new takes on the old show. They presented us with something different and new. Voyager and Enterprise are just carbon copies of TNG and TOS, but less interesting because nothing feels new. We aren't discovering anything with these shows.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Will the JMS Trek Be As Good As "Crusade" and "Jeremiah"?

    by Hercules

    Dare we dream? Also, did he ever stop bitching and moaning about how DS9 ripped off B5?

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Stracynski's Trek -- what was it?

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    I'm curious; has he spilled out any detail as to what his Trek show concept is, and what time period it's set in? ... I wonder if Trek should be set in a time period after TNG/DS9/Voyager where humanity has become the enemy to the Federation. (Maybe there's a conspiracy going on within Earth's government to undermine the Federation.) So Earth has been kicked out of the Federation officially, but humans still serving in Starfleet are allowed. But Starfleet now consists mostly of non-humans. So the show would center on a new ship that is captained by a non-human with a mostly non-human crew. Perhaps this could serve as an analogy to America's present relationship with the United Nations.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Why Sci Fi should not pick up Trek

    by Electric_Monk

    First off, Battlestar Galactica eats up so much money, adding another very expensive show to their line up -while cool for the fans -will not fly financially. As much as Stargate annoys me, its still making money for the network and since they've added Beau Bridges, Ben Browder, Louis Gossett, Jr. and Mitch Pileggi to the cast of both those shows, they're not going to cancel it just to bring ENT to its channel. Unless, the SCI FI Channel somehow finds it way to a larger TV market. Plus, NBC/Universal is nearing a deal to air the new Doctor Who TV series to air on SCI FI and USA. I could see them doing a new series of Trek in few years, but to bring a show that has historically has bad ratings and a divided fan base (it's like the old red and blue state thingy) is just a risk I think SCI FI will take. I know some one will call me a wet blanket and a negative troll, but it's reality, Greg.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 4:57 p.m. CST

    There is a difference between a "Trek fan" and an "Enterprise fa

    by Jim Jam Bongs

    It is the Trek fan who wants the franchise to rest, and for Enterprise to go. The Enterprise fans are fans of Enterprise itself.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Jim Jam...

    by Childe Roland

    ...for reiterating my point. And to elaborate, I think most Enterprise fans would also characterize themselves as Trek fans while the latter would rather pass a Chrysler (with real Corinthian leather seats and Ricardo Montalban behind the wheel) through their digestive tracts then ever call themselves Enterprise fans.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Bastardizing. Again.

    by Holly_Wight

    Klingons of Kirk's era were part of a half-failed project to infiltrate Federation space looking like humans. The only Klingons Kirk and crew ever saw were these altered ones. Normal, unaltered Klingons stayed back in their own system as a matter of intelligence and security. Now, we get a half-assed story that pisses on the official storyline and treats Roddenberry's work and later clarifications as being secondary to this new mythos in all regards. I loathe what B&B have done to Trek, no matter how cool their effects or sexy their science officers may be.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 6:45 p.m. CST

    About Trek Fans

    by Real Deal

    I've probably been a trek fan longer than any of you. You're just wrong. Some of us don't hate Enterprise as much as you do. We actually like it. We realize from the start it had it's short comings. We like better than Voyager. We like it better than the first 2 years of DS9. We don't like it as well as TOS or TNG but it was a fluke that the right elements came together in those to make great shows. Also a lot of it is timing. That's why remakes don't usually work. We want the Star Trek saga to continue. If you are like me I'm afraid too much of an hiatus might mean the end. Please don't try to tell someone who's watched the show for almost 40 years that they aren't a real trek fan. That's just stupid. By the way think it would be a good good idea for STE to move to the SciFi channel if what people are saying about their money situation having improved is true.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 7:12 p.m. CST

    By The Way About The Klingon's Appearence

    by Real Deal

    Having gone back and to read Roddenberry's book about the series " The Making Of Star Trek " published in 1968 he discribes Klingons as : " Sligtly oriental looking, dark complexioned, with bushy eyebrows that arch up at both ends. The men without exception are bearded. " In all the years of Star Trek I've never read or heard any " offcial " explanation of the change in appearence between the series and the movies. I've read plenty of speculation by other's who've written star trek novels and books of speculative entertainment. Which is where these things like they didn't show their true appearence at first are coming from. That particular explaination can be found in Shane Johnson's " The Worlds Of The Federation " published in 1989 which while it mentions Roddenberry and thanks him is not an official Roddenberry book. Sorry guys I have been a Trek fan for a very long time.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 7:19 p.m. CST

    so is that it for star trek then?

    by satansteve

    thank god, let it die already.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 8:53 p.m. CST

    That was ... complicated. And a little overstuffed.

    by Tall_Boy

    Sheesh, they had, like, 4 different plotlines running at once in that ep? yowza.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Holly_Wight - they never EXPLAINED the smooth forehead thing, as

    by Tall_Boy

    And, in case you didn't notice, the comics & books are quite secondary to the almighty "offical" continuity. Nobody is pissing on Roddenbery, but the fact that you said "pissing on Roddenbery" and distainfully mocked "B&B" just leads me to believe you're full of it.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 9:11 p.m. CST


    by BurlIvesLeftNut

    Not really. I like that they are filling up these multi-episode storylines with activities for people other than Archer, Trip and T'Pol. I didn't find any of this hard to follow. My only complaint is that they are finally doing cool things with the characters right before the end of the series. I never liked Reed, but his inclusion in some dark ops mission actually made me interested in his story. I still wish Travis would take a kill-set phaser blast to the groin though. That kid can't act.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Tall Boy

    by Real Deal

    Read my post. I can tell you exactly where the unofficial idea Holly's is trying to pass off as offcial comes from.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 10:26 p.m. CST

    I thought that was an interesting episode, and a plausible expla

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    The irony is that we probably wouldn't have gotten these kind of prequel stories for the fourth season had the threat of cancellation existed. And had the series been renewed for another season, we probably wouldn't have gotten more prequel stories in a fifth season. And another irony: Thanks to UPN cancelling the series officially as early as they did, maybe this will allow the writers to take some real creative, dramatic chances with the characters in the remaining episodes. Hell, maybe after the mirror universe episode, they'll keep the mirror universe opening theme music. It had to take the threat of cancellation to finally get this series in order.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 10:30 p.m. CST

    A question about Malcolm and the group he's obligated to...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Is it Section 33? I haven't kept up with the series.

  • Feb. 18, 2005, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Turns out Malcolm works for AICN.

    by cookylamoo

    He's there to make sure the show sucks and the posters can remain properly indignant.

  • Section 31? Klingon/Augments? Smooth heads? Trip moving to another ship? Phlox being kidnapped? There was *alot* of stuff rammed into this episode, and while they all got adequate screentime, I'm sayin each plot could have used more breathing room instead of a mad rush

  • Feb. 19, 2005, 11:12 a.m. CST

    A Counter To Em's Ah, hem Argument

    by Real Deal

    Well StarGate has good production values and EFX. So how do they do it? I hope I'm wrong but once you change the cast you basically end the show. Remember the Xfiles? I don't know if SG will survive this change. Anyway as far as ST is concerned I think it could be done and Berman saying they couldn't afford it is just him not wanting to give up the franchise. The way I watch friday nights now is STE, SG1, Atlantis and capped off by BSG! What a killer lineup! Are you listening Neilsen? Of course I do this via my DVD recorder but it could be this way for real! It would make the SciFi channel a heavy contender. I believe ( at least in this incarnation ) Star Trek Enterprise is gone. But a new ST incarnation could be started 2 years from now with J. Michael Straczynski at the helm. Are you network execs listening? It could be a gold mine for you.

  • Feb. 19, 2005, 11:37 a.m. CST

    SO much better this year

    by teedadawg

    This feels like the Trek prequel they promised originally. I NEVER understand when people plug into a canon and then try to recreate it from the inside out. THIS season is Enterprise's best by far. Too little, too late, I'm afraid. But it's going leaving me wanting more.

  • Feb. 19, 2005, 1:01 p.m. CST

    So thats why Malcolm was so boring.

    by cookylamoo

    He was a SLEEPER agent. Now, what's Archer's excuse?

  • Feb. 19, 2005, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Sorry But......

    by Real Deal

    I like Malcom's character.

  • Feb. 19, 2005, 2:51 p.m. CST

    I have to disagree, Herc.

    by MyNameDoesn'tFit

    This has to be one of the worst episodes on recent memory. Cheesy ass acting and dialogue (Archer: "T'Pol, try and relax your emotional suppression just a bit.") and the thing with T'Pol and Trip in the Construct was laughably bad. And Malcolm, Secret Agent? Kill me.

  • Feb. 19, 2005, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Good episode

    by optimus122

    Ya a few parts were slightly lame but thats the way all sci fi shows are...never seen a lame scene in Stargate ? Please..anyway It sucks that the best season will be the last one for Enterprise..the show is leaps and bounds better then season 1 and 2 and even better then season 3 which had some real good episodes.

  • Feb. 19, 2005, 6:29 p.m. CST

    I just want to be on the lot...

    by Kelvington

    when they kick Berman off, take away his parking spot and throw his Xerox box of belongings out on the sidewalk and say... "You there, move along, you've done enough damage here." Where does this guy go to get a job? Who would hire him? It's time to give the series a nice breather, ala Star Wars, and the 10 or so years from the original trek to the first movie. No matter how they bring it back next time, it can't be worse than the new version of the Looney Toons!

  • Feb. 20, 2005, 4:14 a.m. CST

    The Top Three reasons why Berman and Braga must go...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    1) They killed Kirk off so disrespectfully in Star Trek: Generations. 2) They got rid of Kes in Voyager and replaced her with Braga's girlfriend. 3) Enterprise. ... These are the three major "jump the shark" events that the two committed to the franchise. Think about it: If they hadn't committed these three offenses, then things wouldn't be so bad today.

  • Feb. 20, 2005, 12:10 p.m. CST

    RE : Prof.Pop-Cult

    by Real Deal

    Well I've thought about it and let's take your argument point by point. Star Trek 6 " The Undiscovered Country " was supposed to be the sign off for the TOS crew. I remember reading an interview with Shatner after that moive asking him if they would be back. He replied by saying something about the entire cast " Needing oxygen ". The fact of the matter is they're old. Too old to do the same kind of role. Shatner knew this sad as it might be. He might have been in favor of being killed off ( albeit I wish they had found a better way ) because the fans just wouldn't let him go. About Kes on Voyager. I just finished collecting the entire show and I couldn't wait until they got to the episodes that got rid of Kes and the Kazon! They replaced her character with someone about 100 times more interesting! The show really grew when Jeri Ryan came on board. Also they didn't have to deal with the stupid plotline of having to make the character really old for the last years of the series ( only living 9 years and that close to human sheesh! )As for Enterprise it's found itself ( albeit too late for the fans ) as I said it would 2 1/2 years ago! The show has improved a great deal and I believe if given a 5th season would have grown much more. I didn't have any trouble following this week's really interesting episode. The idea of Malcom as a member of section 31 was totally unexpected. I only wish there was going to be more. So you see like some of the bashers try to portray Enterprise fans I'm not apologizing for one stinking thing! Enterprise is a good show now! Too bad the fans didn't have the forsight to see it. Oh well. I guess I can look forward to collecting the DVD's starting in may.

  • Feb. 20, 2005, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Prematurely cancelled

    by thevision

    Enterprise finally became what it was supposed to be THIS SEASON! BermanBraga thought they could get away with Voyager Season 8 and 9, sorry guys this is 2005 not 1995. Enterprise started to show promise in the middle of Season 3, still had plenty of problems and the Xindi reptiles were still the typical one-note villains- would've been a good twist if the humanoid Xindi were the bad guys and the reptiles had the conscience. Manny Coto, a true fan of the original, basically re-started the show but it was a forgone conclusion that other than boosting the ratings to at least 8 million, UPN decided Season 4 would be the last- 98 episodes close enough to the magic 100 for syndication. Season 4 should've been Season 1...too little, too late. Fan efforts to save the show range from the usual protest, letters to Moonves, etc., to the highly unlikely-but unique approach-of fan funding for Season 5. Oh well, its seems a certainty that May 13 is it for this incarnation of Trek. In my eyes at least, "Enterprise" redeemed itself and I'm glad its going off the air on a high note. Later.

  • Feb. 20, 2005, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Bumpy vs Smooth Forehead Continuity... Who Cares?

    by Catbarf the 5th

    You want to know why TOS Klingons had smooth foreheads and all the Klingons after that had bumpy foreheads? Because TOS was a 1960s TV show with hardly any technology and money to do much with creature makeup. No more, no less. These efforts to make the whole thing glue together nicely via bizantine "continuity" subplots that involve genetic engineering, timewarps, space anomalies and whatever else... these sorts of things just draw attention to all the UNINTERESTING plot inconsistencies that would be better off ignored, and they open the door for even more of the same kind of dreck. Next we'll "need" a huge time travel arc to explain why on "Enterprise" everything looks like "DS9" (1990s-ish era TV)and why on "TOS" everything looks like the 1960s and everything is made out of cardboard. Jeez. Just let the makeup quality explanations slide, fer crizzakes! There are more interesting themes in science fiction than those created entirely to fix plot holes based on changing makeup budgets.

  • Feb. 20, 2005, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Bumpy-smooth foreheaded Klingons...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Blame DS9 for pointing out the differences first officially. Of course, it was played off as an in-joke, and meant to be forgotten, but it spiraled out onto its own. Before then, the best explanation was no explanation at all, or simply letting continuity freaks come up with their own theory. In fact, Undiscovered Country implied that not all Klingons had bumpy foreheads by having the lead Klingon bad guy with a smooth forehead -- he could have been a Klingon right out of TOS. But no mention of this physical difference was made, and most people in the audience didn't even notice. (I guess now we'll have to say that this Klingon character still had human-augment DNA within him.)

  • Feb. 20, 2005, 5:40 p.m. CST


    by Real Deal

    Who cares if they make a story about it? And why not? I've always wondered if they would ever explain it. " Tempest in a teapot "!

  • Feb. 20, 2005, 5:43 p.m. CST

    more DS9's fault

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    It might also be worth pointing out that DS9 featured a Klingon character (I forgot his name: Kor?) who originally appeared in TOS, only DS9 he had a bumpy forehead. So DS9 messed up, twice, the "compromise" that Undiscovered Country implied.

  • Feb. 20, 2005, 5:49 p.m. CST

    ST 6 and Bumpy Foreheads

    by Real Deal

    By the way a quick check of my Undiscovered Country DVD shows that Christopher Plummer did indeed have small ridges. Maybe he did have augment DNA after all ( wink ).

  • Feb. 20, 2005, 5:52 p.m. CST

    DS9 And Bumpy Foreheads

    by Real Deal

    Sigh! Maybe they get over it since a virus is involved. Maybe there's a cure. Maybe with time on some it goes away. Maybe he had a Klingon face lift. The arc on Enterprise isn't over yet.

  • Feb. 20, 2005, 6 p.m. CST


    by Electric_Monk

    My info on Doctor Who comes from a source I know who is close friends with someone who works for NBC/Universal. He told me that they would like the series to air during the summer. The BBC -and this is from Outpost Gallifrey - has decided not to renew its contracts with any PBS still currently airing the 1963-89 series, so they'll soon disappear from their airwaves. OPG also noted that sales of the new series would be in conjuntion with the original, so Sci Fi (which did air the show back in the 90's, along with reairing of the FOX TV movie) would have no problem airing those old shows. I think we should here about this soon -most likely in early March.

  • Feb. 20, 2005, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Blame DS9 for pointing out the differences first officially.

    by Bart of Darkness

    How could they ignore it though, given that Worf was in that episode. DS9 showed three original series Klingons (Kor, Kang and Koloth) with new style make up. Also Voyager showed Kang (TOS "Day of the Dove") with ridges in the 23rd century! Personally I wouldn't bother explaining it, we all konw it's down to the economics of 60s TV, it's really not that big a deal.

  • Feb. 21, 2005, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Come for the Weiny Wagging and Stay For the Retardedness

    by atomheartbrother

    you gotta love some of the retards on these here boards. this was easily one of the best episodes of trek in recent memory- a nail biter from start to finish (yes!) and continuity porn that just might explain away the galactic spanner that has clogged up trek continuity since the first movie like the chicken bone in mama cass's throat... and yet there are still jackasses pissing on enterprise's corpse? come on now, don't you shitbags know that you and the corporate suits won?

  • Feb. 21, 2005, 2:56 p.m. CST

    The Endless Vortex of Continuity "Fixes"

    by Catbarf the 5th

    Prof Pop Cult, thanks for reminding me about the John Colicos character (Kor or Koor or something...) who had the old cheap TOS makeup on TOS and the new bumpy makeup on DS9. Also thanks to whoever mentioned that Worf was on the DS9 time travel episode, thus forcing the issue of bumpy vs smooth. As I recall, only Worf even knows that there was a historical difference, the DS9 humans seem to have forgotten (O'Brien or somebody exclaims "those are Klingons?")... but the idea that nobody from the Federation would know that an entire race that they were *at war with* for a long time had totally changed appearance in the last 200 years seems pretty far-fetched. In other words, it seems like the more the writers try to explain a problem away, the bigger the continuity problems get. That being my only point. Because continuity problems are inevitable, I'm not opposed to having a little fun with it (like the DS9 tribble episode did, explaining away 1960s cheap props as "classic 23rd century design" and so forth) but it's when they turn these things into long increasingly complicated geek story arcs in an attempt to... what? Make Star Trek better with "iron-clad" continuity even if it means 500 alternate dimensions? It's not like our beloved fantasy worlds will fall apart or anything. Also not opposed to it if filling in the gaps makes for interesting stories. But more often than not, the whole thing causes more storyline problems than it solves, or just comes off like indulgent writing.

  • Feb. 21, 2005, 3:07 p.m. CST

    PS - On Trek Continuity in General

    by Catbarf the 5th

    ... Trek's continuity is so hosed by now (the writers were at it from Day 1, all of them primarily just trying to make a weekly TV show or a movie, not build a universe to last decades) that the "bumpy forehead" thing is only a drop in the bucket. I wish they'd all do less to fix or expand upon existing continuity problems, and a whole lot more to prevent many of the very, very preventable ones from croping up in the first place. Though I guess we're out of new Trek for awhile if not forever, so that's that... let's enjoy our favorite science fiction story messpile in retrospect, I guess.

  • Feb. 22, 2005, 1:50 a.m. CST

    I like this episode!

    by jodocus

    Thanks to the writers for throwing us fans a bone in explaining the forehead thing. I would have preferred the diffent races theory though! I am so disappointed in them cancelling the show thought. I mean a lot the episodes were trash but that's kind of the fun of watching Trek, every once in a while you discover a diamond amoung the bad episodes (which are the majority). I wish they would keep the focus on the formation of the Federation instead of rehashing bad Voyager plots. Live Long and Prosper.