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Some Speculation About PUNISHER 2!!
Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
Yeah, that’s right. I said speculation. It’s fairly well-argued, too. I thought I’d publish it to follow up on the comments that Thomas Jane made earlier in the week about a PUNISHER sequel and the bad guy he’d like to see. Remember? He said he wanted it to be Jigsaw, and according to the e-mail I got today, they believe Jigsaw will be...
…John Saint. The son of John Travolta’s character in the first movie.
Now, there’s an *official and reputable* source for this information, but I’ll get into that in a second.
As soon as I walked out of that movie, I knew that they had to be setting it up. Think about it – his entire body, and one arm, was blocked by stuff that was collapsed onto him. Only part of his upper body, and his face were exposed. We don’t –see- him die either, we just hear the explosion (and if I remember correctly, a scream.) Taking all of that into consideration, along with the stage already being set for –revenge- against Frank Castle by not only destroying John Saint’s comparable “Billy ‘The Beaut’ Russo” looks, but also his family and their entire empire. But now, without a REASON OF A DOUBT, here’s the clincher:
PLAY THE NEW PUNISHER GAME by THQ. I almost shit my pants when they pretty much used exactly what I stated above to incorporate Jigsaw into the game as the final boss. Practically ver-fuckin-batim!!!
BTW: That game rules all Marvel comics games to date. I highly suggest the PC version (uncensored and quite brutal!!!) to anyone who’s ever been a fan of The Punisher. They took the *best of every Punisher series* and threw it into a single game. It was like the bastard son of Steven Grant and Mike Zeck. Hardly none of the “Welcome Back Frank” bullshit they loaded in to the movie. There’s also TONS of guest appearances… I mean, they really went all out on that game and included some Marvel characters you’d never guess in a million years who be featured in a Punisher video game.
One last thing about the movie: I just don’t understand why they couldn’t have had Frank return from Iraq, and stumble across some shit with his family like they did in the TRUE origin of the character. The whole lame-assed opening sequence destroyed the movie for me. I can’t even bring myself to watch it again – not to mention buy the DVD. They really dropped the fuckin’ ball on that one.
Also… THEY BETTER INTRODUCE MICROCHIP IN THE SEQUEL!!! I mean, he’s the one who built all the cool shit (and the Battle Van!!!) – ala BLADE’s Whistler.
If you use this, you can call me…
Irwin Schwabb * pop! *It’s so telling that even when someone bags a movie completely, they hold out hope for a sequel. These Marvel characters really are just ingrained into our fanboy DNA, aren’t they? Anyway, thanks, man. Fun stuff for a Sunday afternoon.
"Moriarty" out.
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...get Dolph back for the sake of screen presence. Or bulk, anyway.
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While the above is self-explanatory, I think it'd be ridiculous to throw the Saints back in. We're done with them. Give Frank some new guys to fucking brutalize. Also, I'm not that familiar with the character of Jigsaw. Who is he, what's his deal, and what's his origin? I know the Saints were made up for the first movie, but I don't wanna start harshin' on the sequel for makin' up an origin, and then look like an ass.
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I doubt the Punisher even listens to music, so how about an orchestral score? And they oughta pay Paul Schraeder to make a pass on the screenplay. Is the same guy that directed the first one doing the sequel? That Wolverine/Punisher crossover that Peter Milligan did a few months ago would be a great movie. They oughta base the sequel on an earlier, less Garth Ennis story arc this. They don't do that enough.
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This one should be bloodier...
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Yes to Jigsaw, but no to him being Travolta's son. Let's just hit the reset button and forget the whole Howard Saint business. Just make a balls-out Noo York Punisher flick with Jigsaw. And Microchip too, sure why not. Is it Fanboy casting time? Alrighty then, Philip Seymour Hoffman as Micro. No wait, Micro is fat, so he's obviously going to be the Comic Relief. So, Kevin James then.
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Feb 13, 2005 9:51:34 PM CST
Definitely hoping for a sequel for this and Hulk, so they can fi
by krims0nknite
I mean they're movies I want to see for sure... But the ones that have been made so far just aren't worth watching.
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I really liked T.Jane's Punisher, and while I'm sympathetic to those who explain distress over the change of origin - I understand but wonder what the difference is. The opening of 2004's The Punisher is absolutely brutal, and the payback later is fun although bordering on cheeze by the final few frames.
But if you're going to bring back anybody from the Dolph movie, I'd suggest Louis Gossit Jr, cuz that dude always rocks!
Would he make a good Microchip? I'm not really familiar with the comic version of the character?
Here's to a sequel! -
I'm begging you...
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This feels more AICN than I think most news. It's speculation, sure, but it's based in reality, and it's a harmless enough read. If that is indeed the way they go with 'The Punisher 2,' it'll even be a scoop. I think it's kind of a stupid idea, but I guess that all depends on how they handle it. It's just hard for me to picture that kid who played John Saint as any sort of crime lord. I guess we'll probably see. And a general comment to certain people, the "Body Count" in 'The Punisher' was pretty fucking high. Christ on a cucumber, you guys are bashing these movies for all the wrong reasons. I'm not as read-up on Punisher as I guess a lot of hardcore fans, but I'm kind of hoping they leave Microchip out of the dance.
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Gah. Sorry about that sentence.
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It needed to be more violent. The character side of the movie was very well done, but the action was too brief and too little. I thought the fight with the Russian was the highlight of the film. Do more over the top mayhem like that and Punisher 2 will rock. A Spidey cameo wouldn't hurt either.....
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If not, then phooey.
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Feb 13, 2005 10:54:54 PM CST
Oh, and the first Punisher *did* have a pretty good orchestral s
by osmosis jones
By a guy named Carlo Sillioto. Too bad that, coupled against the film's absurd plot, it came across as incredibly heavy-handed and goofy. It's great seperated on CD, however.
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The 1st half of Punisher 1 was too tame ... The Punisher was just too easy on people. The final scenes in Saint's building was the tone that should have been throughout ... all extreme violence. That's just his character.
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He was dying, you know, and probably he was pretty tired after the game was over, having the brain tumor and shit. It will be nice to see how he can put the joy of living back into Dulph's wounded soul. This could work, but it would have to be a more of an inner kind of story, with lots of shots of Dulph's staring face while he smokes a cigarette and intercuts to shot of Jigsaw getting x-rays and exams. It won't be no picnic I can tell you that, so you might wanna give the job to someone with experience, someone with enough talent to make big epic stuff, but who is still able to reach the characters from the inside. That's it Hollywood, get Bay on the job and don't let him forget his evolving sensibility. Ergo I've done it again.
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...the best thing about the first Punisher is the incorporation of stuff from Welcome Back Frank, as well as, several lines and scenes outta Punisher: Year One. True, i dont wanna see his neighbors back for the sequel cuz they have only made short appearances in the comic since that mini-series ended. So there is no need for them in the sequel. Other reason he is an idiot? Yeah, them changing his origin sucked, but this guy mis-represents his comic origin. Frank Castle comes home from being a Marine in Vietnam, then a few years later ('74 or '75 i think), he goes to have a nice little picnic in central park with his wife and TWO kids (movie only gave him a son... where the fuck is his daughter?). BAM, they are all caught in the middle of the cross-fire between a pair of rival mob gangs. They had nothing to do with it. Wrong place, wrong time. That's why it was so tragic. They weren't even involved. That's why Frank Castle (sorry, this is no more Frank Castle... my bad, i mean Punisher) dedicates his existence to killing all mobsters, everywhere... But yeah, Thomas Jane, while too young to be the grizzled old Punisher we love, did a great job. I love that he is fighting to make the next one set in NY, like the first one shoulda been. Supermonkey out
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if it was the intention to have saint's son as jigsaw all along, then why was tom jane going on record to say he thinks michael keaton would be a great jigsaw?
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Yep, that's what would make me interested in watching PUNISHER 2. When I watched the first movie I was sure it must be PG-13. There was almost NO blood whatsoever. The only scene that looked R-rated to me was the knife-in-the-mouth scene, which I'll admit was badass. But the rest was uttlerly ... LAME. Dear studio bosses and producers, if your film is gonna be R-rated anyway, why the fuck not go and make it a HARD R instead of an almost-PG-13?? I don't get this. Now please go and watch Lucio Fulci's CONTRBAND, look at the shoot-outs in that awesome flick, take notes, and make a PUNISHER 2 that won't suck poodle diarrhea. kthx.
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Only if they do what Ennis did to him in the recent relaunch.. if they added him, people'd start with the Whistler/Q comparisons that some braindead people are trying to do with Constantine.
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....fucking neighbor sequences were just out of control cheesy .... man, what a craptacular movie!
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That way they can keep on killing him off in one movie and bringing him back for the next over and over.
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Thomas Jane looked pretty damn hot as the punisher. I'd like to "punish" him for about two hours....
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Please tell me your a woman.....
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The problem I had with the first punisher film is that you have the killings of Castle's family at the beginning and then his revenge at the end but the huge chunk in the middle of these two events offered no development at all. In fact immediately after watching the film it occurred to me that if you took out the pieces that did not progress the film at all you could have: Mobsters kill castle family: Castle kills mobsters. It would take the film length to about 15 minutes and lose absolutely nothing plotwise !!!
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They just need to up the ante a bit and not have it so low budget.
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Why do all superhero films have to exist in self-containing bubble? How cool would it have been for Spider-man to have swung past the Baxter Building in Spider-man 2? Batman Begins is going to suck as bad as the rest of the Batfilms, but how about just one cameo by another superhero? Like on TV, during a newscast or something. I feel that this a major thing that is lacking in most comicbook films. Batman Forever, sucky as it was, at leasted mentioned Metropolis. I know characters often have conflicting copyrights or whathaveyou, but fuck, c'mon. Look at the episode of Justice League where they weren't allowed to use the JSA. Lame character simulcra, but still damn cool. But, alas, hopefully this wouldn't mean a Ben Affleck as Daredevil cameo.
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Feb 14, 2005 4:38:35 PM CST
I'd suggest that Frank change his hair to black (he's in hiding,
by jdanielp
I'm available to direct. -- The Punisher is a great character ... and can be every bit as visually awesome as Batman ... which makes it a property very much worth being passionate about.
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Feb 14, 2005 4:57:45 PM CST
OOPS ... I guess his hair was black, already. I forgot. I only
by jdanielp
Damn. I've left myself wide open to a Mr. Miracle talkback-attack.
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so no "attack" needed, Justin.
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Feb 14, 2005 10:55:58 PM CST
I would only see PUNISHER 2 if they hired a great director
by doc_mccoy
Jonathan Hensleigh should never be allowed to direct a movie again. Period. The only directors who would make a PUNISHER sequel worthwhile wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. Who wants to direct the *sequel* to a piece of shit?
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Feb 15, 2005 2:18:13 AM CST
I'll pretend I'm Mr. Miracle ... and respond to his "fresh idea"
by jdanielp
Nah. There's no fun in pretending to be so childish.
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And that's supposed to be evidence that what I was talking about has already happened, huh? I guess little things like the difference between a newscast and a talk show don't matter much in the larger scheme of things, eh? Here's some more minutia: I was making a comment on comic books films in general, not "Punisher's television." Also, that's an example of the proper use of quotation marks. You know, where you quote something somebody actually said? But, whatever, right? Good luck on being hired to direct Punisher 2, by the way. Maybe Fox'll be impressed by "Howie Long should play Superman" and "they should make an entire television channel dedicated to new videos for old songs only about superheroes." Yeah, your phone should be ringing any second now. Anyway, you're right, we wouldn't want comic book movies to be more like comic books themselves, would we?
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Feb 15, 2005 4:34:33 AM CST
Kingpin should be in either the next punisher movie or the spide
by kdog69
played by michael clark duncan again. He should also still have his legs slightly fucked up from his battle with daredevil.
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Feb 15, 2005 4:47:07 AM CST
actually there was a reference to another superhero in a comicbo
by kdog69
"This is why Superman works alone"
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And remember Bruce Wayne says something like "the circus will be half way to Metropolis by now..." to Dick Grayson in Batman Forever? These are only references, though. Marvel's starting to build a well populated film universe, what with Spider-man, Daredevil, Punisher. Elektra and the X-Men, and add Fantastic Four and Ghostrider and maybe Iron Man, New York's getting a little crowded. This universe could only benefit from a little connectivity.
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Feb 15, 2005 6:14:57 AM CST
The next punisher movie should have him up against daredevil...
by kdog69
and later they both decide to go up against Kingpin. I can't really see anyother marvel characters teaming up on screen. Spider-man and X-men movies are very different. And I can't see Blade teaming up with anybody unless they put morbious in a movie. Personally, I'm sick of Marvel movies(even though I loved Spider-man 1&2 and X2...I though Daredevil director's cut was ok). I just want some DC movies. The problem with DC movies is that WB owns them and WB sucks. I have mixed feelings about Batman Begins(although I am starting to get more and more hope for it), but the superman movie looks okay (I like singer's films) and hopefully ryan renolds will be wally west in the flash. My main beef is that there is not Luke Cage or Black Panther movies. There isn't enough "color" on the silver screen these days. Atleast like Mickael Clark Duncan play Kingpin again! And how about a John Stewart Green Lantern movie staring a beefed up Phil Lamar?
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Feb 15, 2005 7:00:26 AM CST
Any superhero movie that mentions other superhero character's fr
by lone fox
So far. Or to put it another way, the last two Batman films.
The reason there are never any cameos as such is because of the fucked up way Hollywood treats the properties. One studio owns Spider-man, another X-Men... so they legally CAN'T cross over.
For example, Kingpin couldn't ever appear in SM3 because he was in Daredevil. Which was the most true to the source comicbook adaption to date.
An exception is Warner Bros as they own DC, but they give successful series to Joel Schumacher so what the fuck do they know?
Shit. Aunt May told Peter he wasn't Superman in SM1... but fuck it, she was referring to him as a fictional character.
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c'mon, who else could it be... Steve Zhan?? NOT A CHANCE.
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Cameos have happened. Within the Marvel line of movies, X2 referenced Franklin Richards when Deathstrike was going through computer files. Crossline, Aunt May told Peter that he wasn't Superman in Spider-Man 1. As for full blooded, character acted cameos, Spawn 1 had Angela early in the ballroom scene. These are only a few examples and there have been more.
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A friend of mine mentioned fanboy casting of Microchip and I initially scoffed. Wayne Knight (Newman in "Seinfeld"). Would have to be played straight, though. Comic relief by situational circumstance, not design.
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since Marvel owns all the properties. Stan Lee can do whatever he wants. DC on the otherhand is owned by WB. So are their movies.
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Feb 15, 2005 12:36:26 PM CST
Mr. Miracle ... it's "A" future/past, not "An" future/past ... a
by jdanielp
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Feb 15, 2005 12:36:26 PM CST
Mr. Miracle ... it's "A" future/past, not "An" future/past ... a
by jdanielp
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Feb 15, 2005 12:45:30 PM CST
Anyone else ever try to post in a talback while holding a baby?
by jdanielp
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if the get another actor, forget the entire last movie, a new director, someone beyond 8th grade to write the script, a new marketing plan, a new name, etc. This could be a step in the right direction if the above mentioned ideas are followed. BTW: Isnt this punisher dude supposed to be a hardcore, buff, brutal looking guy? My sister could kick Thomas Janes ass. For God sakes, his name is JANE!!!!!!!
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Feb 15, 2005 1:29:18 PM CST
That would totally rule to have the Kingpin in the next one ...
by theaflacduck
& of course Michael Clarke Duncan would be playing him. & if possible he should have some sort of cameo in Spider-Man 3 ... at a benefit or something. The Coolness factor alone would make geek-heads asplode!
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Feb 15, 2005 1:31:54 PM CST
I love how Justin tries to point out one of my few spelling erro
by kintar0
with two of his own. Not to mention his continued improper use of punctuation. Maybe you should have that baby proofread your posts? I think that making a Green Lantern film with Jon Stewart is a great idea. Sure, I'd dig a Hal Jordan film, too, but I have zero problem with Stewart. It really is too bad that the business environment exists where DC/Warner Bros. or Marvel can't use any of thier own characters "at will." But I know its all about egos and money. And to reiterate once again, I realize that there are a ton of cross references in comic book films, but I'm talking actual character appearances. Maybe Spider-man 3 will feature a post-Fantastic Four Human Torch cameo. That wouldn't be cool? Even though Fantastic Four looks... awful. That trailer makes Ultimate Fantastic Four look good.
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Unfortunately, they can't cross over. As pointed out by Mr_Miracle, someone referring to another character doesn't constitute an appearance, and although Marvel own their characters in print, on film the rights are held by several companies. Was it on the Spider-man 2 DVD, or somewhere... anyway, there was a rumour that Thomas Jane made an appearance in the background in a little cameo, but it was dismissed by Raimi on the grounds that Spider-man and Punisher are owned (film-wise) by two different studios, therefore they COULDN'T do the cameo. Of course, he COULD just play a passer-by in a black T-shirt...
It all goes back to the pre- Joe Quesada fuck ups Marvel made trying to escape bankrupsy by selling off its characters. I remember a mock up of a Tom Cruise-led Spider-man movie film poster back in 1990. Don't know who owned it back then. Oh God. Cruise-face as Parker? Well, Pete does have the Cruise role-requisite parental issues... -
Although totally bullshit, I realize people would get their asses sued off by dropping characters into their films, but there are other ways to acknowledge the greater Marvel and DC universes. Daredevil missed two huge opportunities to tie itself into the Marvel universe and I'll bet more of us would have liked it better if they had. Ben Urich working for the New York Post instead of the Daily Bugle? UGGHHH! One mention of Bullseye being a mutant? Nope! X-men could very naturally mention that Magneto's daughter is an Avenger couldn't they? Someone mentioned putting the Baxter Bldg. into the New York skyline. Jean Grey went before Congress over the mutant issue, shouldn't Peter at least be wondering if he is one? The Punisher's first appearance was in a Spiderman book and it's ridiculous they didn't try to pay homage to that in some way. How about some Spidey-web left hanging off of something that Frank walks by, or someone reading the Bugle with a Spidey story on it? Something, ANYTHING! I'm glad they slipped the Franklin Richards reference into X2 at least.
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So shouldn't he have the final word on who pops up in what movie. Also, both daredevil and X-men were made from the same studio, so there could have been a bullseye mutant reference.
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since WB owns all the movies so there would be no legal battle. The problem is that some DC crossovers don't work quite right. It just feels sort of wrong when superman shows up in Gotham in the comics(though Batman/Superman is one of my favorite series at the moment.) And you know what movie should be made? Not just a lone greenlantern movie... but a greenlantern corps. movie! Think about it.
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How the hell are the Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Spiderman, and Daredevil all working in the same city without crossing paths? Especially now that Frank is making the move to the big apple, some crossovers need to start happening. I haven't seen Elektra yet, I am in no hurry by any means, and will probably snag it once it hits the 2 for $20 rack at blockbuster, but the studio totally dropped the ball by cutting out the Affleck cameo. Whether or not you liked Daredevil is irrelevant,(though the directors cut is not half bad) they made a huge mistake by trying to distance Elektra from Daredevil. Personally I think Affleck was solid as Matt Murdock, and that the problems with the film were primarily pacing and fight coreography issues. They are really selling themselves short though by not finding a way to work in crossovers, in any event, and that's the closest they have come yet. Imagine a scene in the Punisher sequel, where Frank is grimly wiping the entrails and blood from his bayonet, as he steps out of the alleys and enters the lamplight fresh from gutting some thug... He looks up and sees the outline of Daredevil crouched on a building above sightlessly observing the seedy proceedings, hell perhaps Frank just eviscerated the very lowlife Murdock had planned to interrogate. Obviously the differences in methodology between Castle, and just about any other Marvel hero would result in balls to bone, hard as nails fights, the likes of which we have not yet seen in a Marvel film. Even if it was just a quick treat for the true fans seeing such a square off would make my day. In the end of course it would have to end in a stalemate, leaving both heroes bloodied and bruised, and in Franks case out of ammo...the cops start to show up, then Frank slips away, and Daredevil goes home to spend some time in the isolation tank. That was one thing I really liked about Daredevil, is that they showed his vulnerability, they showed him eating darvacets, and percodan, illustrating that his mission has a personal cost. The thought of a character driven like Murdock in that direction encountering someone like the Punisher on film would be a sight to behold. It always gave me chills when such legendary characters shared page space in the comics, and they could do so much by tying all of these films together in one way or another. Fuck it, if they can give Stan a cameo in every film, then I can't imagine it would be too hard to render Spidey swinging along on an unrelated mission in a Fantastic Four movie, or to throw in a quick nod to the Stark building, anything to make it feel as if the Marvel universe actually exists. If the casual fans don't make the connection fuck 'em. I think the true fans would be able to forgive the flaws in the individual films if the larger web presented a prettier picture.
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Is it true that when a screenwriter adapts something for the screen they get more credit based on the amount of "original content" they add it, ie: changes? Does anyone have any WGA info on this?
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Feb 15, 2005 4:42:10 PM CST
Unfortunately, Hollyweird is run by fuckers. Lone Fox in obvious
by lone fox
kdog69 you're right, and it shouldn't matter, but if a character from one franchise pops up in another movie, someone always wants money.
Which is why I rate Lucas, Rodriguez et al for sticking it up the greedy expletives.
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Feb 15, 2005 4:57:47 PM CST
I just can't believe that Kingpin won't be in a spider-man movie
by kdog69
I mean he was originally a spider-man villian before he started going up against daredevil, right? In the first two spider-man movies they have him up against loner villians. It's time for him to fight a guy with connections and henchmen. They could also add all sorts of other villians working for kingpin like rhyno or shocker.
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I don't know if that's the case, but it would explain a lot of the hackjob films that were supposedly "based on" other works.
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Feb 15, 2005 5:25:24 PM CST
Hey, Ms. Miracle. Was that REALLY a "spelling error" ... or is
by jdanielp
I've enjoyed reading the postings from fellow talkbackers in which they educate Mr. Miracle on how the rights of various Marvel characters are sold to different studios. I enjoy it because if the "shoe was on the other foot" (so-to-speak), Mr. Miracle would be bashing anyone and everyone who didn't know. -- And my name is not Justin, you idiot. But I tell you what. If you do find out "who" I am and "where" I live, please come break into my house ... so that when I feel a threat towards my family ... well, just keep it in mind, will you? Consider it. Really.
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Re-read the posts on this article. You'll notice numerous times that I state that I KNOW why there aren't any or many cross-cameos in comic book films. Again, it is because of money, which is illustrated by ownership, and egos, which is illustrated by producers, owners of copyright and literal and figurative creatorship. So nobody educated me on how the rights of various Marvel characters are sold to different studios. The same thing applies to DC/Warner Bros. I even gave an example in an earlier post in this very talkback: the Justice League cartoon had to use simulacra of JSA characters to do a crossover. Sure, this has obviously been worked out, as evidenced by the appearance of some JSA characters in Justice League Unlimited. It is laughable that I have to point out something so obvious. Reading is FUNDAMENTAL. I also enjoyed your completely unfounded, unwarranted personal threat. You have often questioned my maturity, but have I ever threatened physical violence towards you or anyone because I disagree with them or disliked thier ideas? No, that distinction now belongs soley to you. You want me to "please come break into my house" so that "when" you "feel a threat towards" your "family" [insert veiled threat here]. I feel sorry for your family if you truly are such a pathetic, indignant little man. Sure, I put forth the hypothesis that you name is "Justin" based solely on the similarity to your posts and the guy who posted awhile back that he can relate to Batman as a person because his name is "Justin" and supposedly means "justice" or something. You're both cheesy dorks. A weak hypothesis? Sure. Unfair? Sure. Your name isn't "Justin?" Prove it. You see, just like your fantasy of becoming "one of the greatest fantasy directors EVER," this fantasy of kicking my ass or shooting me or whatever is simply an extension of your lack of power and/or authority in real life. Let it go, you sad little man. Did they call you to hire you to direct Punisher 2 yet?
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Seriously the 1st arc of the MAX Punisher title would be awesome as the basis for Punisher II.
You'd have to do some editing and plot finessing but the idea of Frank being recruited tot he CIA then getting sideswiped by the mob would be awesome.
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Nope.
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Your name is really Rocky Brown? That's pretty fucking funny. I'll bet growing up sucked for you.
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Feb 16, 2005 7:59:24 AM CST
Mr. Miracle, ... may a descendent of Jack the Ripper have a dist
by jdanielp
I'd love nothin' better than to kick your fuckin' ass, you pussy. -- I'm done "typing", motherfucker. And now, I'm perhaps done coming to what was once my favorite web-site. All because you consistantly zap the joy I get from it. And because I, unfortunately, don't have the "opportunity" to show you my very real displeasure. Thank the stars, motherfucker. Thank the stars.
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You're a joke, man. A sad, sad joke. Way to let your true colors show. Thanks for proving me right. I've "zapped the joy" from your favorite website? No, son, you've done it to yourself. Let us know when Hollywood comes knocking.
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Come on man, we're talking about comic characters here, not the affects of American foreign policy on the geopolitical climate or anything of real global significance. The level of anger in these forums is a bit ridiculous at times, and as important as comics are to all of us, let's try to keep things in perspective. Mr. Miracle can be frustrating at times, yes, as we all are to someone, HOWEVER, resorting to threats of physical violence or reaching a point where you are ready to quit coming here just because someone rubs you the wrong way indicates that you might be taking this a bit too seriously. We all enjoy ripping on each other now and then, but there is a fine line between calling somebody a fuckwit- douchebag, and threatening to kick their ass. Many of us comic geeks derived much of our moral fibre from the heroes we grew up with, and when all else fails and the debate has escalated to such a frenzied pitch, take a step back and ask yourself: "Is this really worth getting my blood pressure up over?" "Would Spiderman,Batman, (insert favourite superhero name in the blank)_____________ resort to such mongoloid antics"?
Come on folks. Nerds used to be smart. Don't let your baser instincts run your life, and don't let macho bullshit cloud your judgement. We don't all have to agree, and if we did, what would be the point of coming here? Keep your fuckin' panties on. -
Feb 16, 2005 5:14:56 PM CST
Hey, Mr. Miracle. How about I knock your fuckin' teeth in? ...
by jdanielp
Do I have a temper? Sure, when I find such juvenile behavior intolerable. -- And if Hollywood wants a great Punisher movie, then have me direct ... and I'll think of Mr. Miracle every time a scene calls for the Punisher to get sadistic. Mr. Miracle may enjoy disrespecting myself, all other talkbackers, and this web-site, ... but I guarantee you that in my presence, he'd better show some fuckin' respect.
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Take some deep breaths, and count to ten. So Mr Miracles not a fan of your ideas, why the fuck should you care?
Anonymous voices are hardly worth stressing over. Do your thing and let rest be damned. If his post piss you off that much just skip over em dude. -
And what EXACTLY do you mean by "juvenile behavior?" You like to make statements without examples. I believe you need to re-read the posts on this article and recognize who started it. I can't believe you actually typed out "get the fuck off my set." That's laughable, man. I can't believe you're actually threatening me with violence on a message board! How completely impotent. I better show some respect, huh? Or what? Does your family know you have this anger problem? I can't believe you actually typed out "get the fuck off my set."
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Feb 17, 2005 2:52:05 AM CST
It's not the difference of opinion that pisses me off. Absolute
by jdanielp
I wish to offer my apology to Harry and all those who contribute to "aintitcool", both news contributors and talkbackers alike. This web-site has been a wonderful outlet for me, to respectfully share opinions and thoughts with others who enjoy doing the same. I regret that I let my anger get the better of me. -- All I ask is that people (talkbackers) treat each other with "respect" and a little "common courtesy" ... or is it really becoming that uncommon? Treat each other as to how you, yourself, would like to be treated. To get respect, you must first learn how to give it. That's exactly how it works in the real world ... and if you haven't learned it yet, you just might.
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Feb 17, 2005 3:25:48 AM CST
Re-read the posts to see where it started? Are you trying to sw
by jdanielp
SpikeTBB, meet JDanielP. JDanielP, meet SpikeTBB. Remember that headline of yours? Nice, pleasant introduction, right? Then... "You both don't know shit from shinola. You both have lame, stupid ideas. You're perfect for each other!" I hadn't even addressed you ... and that's exactly the kind of shit you pull on nearly a daily basis. Offer an opposing opinion and move on. Or is it your goal to piss people off? But then, I suppose it beats getting your ass kicked for it in the real world. -- And one more thing. I'd really like to be finished, here, ... just as I thought we were until you insulted me (and Spike) in the Batman Begins posting. But, I know. You've got to have the last word. The last insulting word. Go ahead. Don't keep all of America waiting.
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Come on man, actually read my last post. It doesn't matter who started it. Let it go.
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