More SUPERMAN Casting' Jor El and Lara' Rumors Are Flying, Even If Big Blue Isn
Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
We got in about 200 e-mails today that looked pretty much exactly like this:
thought you guys might like to see this news for superman returns from superherohype.com
if its true this is one awesome cast
Scooper 'Rich' sent us this scoop, which we can't confirm at this time. We can tell you that 'Rich' was the first one to tell us that Kal Penn is actually Luthor's right-hand man, which at first contradicted reports that said he was playing Superman's best friend, but now turns out to be true. If the rest is accurate, there's some big names still to be officially announced for Warner Bros.' Superman:
I have some exclusive casting news on Superman Returns. Kal Penn (Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle, Van Wilder) has indeed signed on, as a earring wearing, tattooed punk that serves as Luthor's right hand man.
Famke Janssen's (X-Men 1 & 2, Goldeneye) meeting with director Bryan Singer down under was for Superman Returns, and she has snagged the role of Lora, the birth mother of The Man Of Steel, while Daniel Day-Lewis (Gangs Of New York, The Last Of The Mohicans) has gotten the role of his birth father, Jor-El.
As for the other villians, Jude Law (Cold Mountain, Gattaca) has finally signed on as General Zod, and Kevin Bacon (Mystic River, Apollo 13) has signed as John Corbin.
Finally, Barry Pepper (Saving Private Ryan, The Green Mile) has gotten the role of a reporter at the Daily Planet, who becomes Clarke's rival after his return. Expect WB to make these casting bits official in about a week.
Stay tuned for the possible confirmations of these casting bits.
Fascinating cast. I’m impressed if Singer actually got Daniel Day Lewis to do it. He’s normally impossible to pin down for these types of films, but if you want someone as eccentric and gifted as Brando, he seems like a good fit.
I guess we’ll see in the days ahead.
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Feb. 9, 2005, 6:41 a.m. CST
Dunno if this will work or not, sounds like one of them big ensemble pieces that everytime a character comes on screen everyone goes, ohh...look who it is. Plus Daniel Day Lewis is the most pretenious arsehole I have ever met. This could end up like Oceans 12, the biggest pile of horse shit I have seen in a long while......
Feb. 9, 2005, 6:43 a.m. CST
I just love it when a Director comes up with smart casting like this and makes u go "Ofcourse- PERFECT- why didn't I think of that!!!" Daniel Day Lewis is inspired casting- he's an excellent talent with the chisseled looks required for the Father of Kal-El. Famke is spot on too- she has an alien beauty about her and the acting chops to boot. Jude Law as General Zod- now thats exciting casting- can't wait to see what he does with this classic and much loved villian. Production stills now- hurry- please!!!
Feb. 9, 2005, 7:13 a.m. CST
If this is true then Singer has finally woken up. Not sure about Penn, but the others seem spot on.
Feb. 9, 2005, 7:15 a.m. CST
Jude Law as General Zod? I thought he was playing the big guy himself? So who is currently playing supes? And why, for that matter, is Zod in this movie? Are they just trying to remake Superman 2???!? But that's considered by many to be the greatest superheero movie of all time! What the hell are they thinking about? Can't say I'm that familiar with the comic, I was more of a Batman/Swamp Thing/Sandman type myself - was Zod even in the comics? I always thought that he was created purely for the movie. I know I could look all of this up on the internet, but there simply isn't the time!! Help me talkbackers! By the way I consider this to be one of the greatest lines in any movie ever: "There's a strong streak of good in you Superman..... but then nobody's perfect"
Feb. 9, 2005, 7:34 a.m. CST
Is this supposed to be some kind of tribute to Jon Cryer's Lenny, one of the stupidest characters around?? Why in the world would Singer do this? WHY CAN'T LUTHOR'S RIGHT HAND "MAN" BE MERCY GRAVES!?!? I cannot understand the need to come up with idiotic characters for comedic value, which will only tarnish the credibility of the movie and make the public mock it. ___But that's minor: Zod is a much bigger deal. And Jude Law seems an odd choice for General Zod. I really don't think he can live up to Terrance Stamp's incredibly memorable performance. ___Singer seems to be very hit or miss in his decision making.
Feb. 9, 2005, 7:37 a.m. CST
Daniel Day Lewis is a good choice for Jor-El though. And Bacon would be decent--if it weren't for the fact that he was so notorious with the public for just being, you know, Kevin Bacon. He's the type of actor to elicit giggles from the audience whenever he's on, because they'll always go "Look, it's *that* guy..." Other than that, I could see him playing Metallo.
Feb. 9, 2005, 7:43 a.m. CST
Bacon is a pretty accomplished actor. Have you seen the Woodsman?
Feb. 9, 2005, 7:46 a.m. CST
Will it be enough to sway the doubters? Stay tuned as the talkbackers crack those knuckles and the furious clackety clack of keys commences.
Feb. 9, 2005, 7:49 a.m. CST
Kevin Bacon finally gets another job ! WOO ! now come on - give Christian Slater, Charlie and Emilio a job, lets get em all in.Go on singer how about you 'make them famous ' I do worry though that alot of these over 40's actors are not being groomed for the wizened old man roles that Clint and co are going to leave behind sooner or later . There's going to be this huge vacuum - then they will have to get the bratpack back !
Feb. 9, 2005, 7:50 a.m. CST
After all, he was never taken care of, he just fell in a pit. But if this is a "return" story, then why bother casting Lora and Jor'El? Maybe he's going to reshoot the origin sequence? I dunno, I'm psyched that Law is in this, he's probably the best male actor out there at the moment. At least, my favorite.
Feb. 9, 2005, 7:53 a.m. CST
Before the trolls get in i mean big budget job - i know he's been in the woodsman and a few other indie films since the good old days..
Feb. 9, 2005, 8 a.m. CST
Day-Lewis for Jor'El!!!! Law as Zod!!!! If this is true (kinda hope it is) then i'll be a monkey's uncle!!! Literally!! I'll even go marry a female chimp with a brother or sister who has a baby chimp just to prove my point!!!!
Feb. 9, 2005, 8:37 a.m. CST
by Anna Valerious
After the disaster which was "Quest for Peace", they're making up for it with Jude Law. Yum.
Feb. 9, 2005, 8:53 a.m. CST
Day-Lewis? Law? WTF????
Feb. 9, 2005, 9:01 a.m. CST
iF THIS turns out to be true then I hope singer has the foresight tocast Gabriel Byrne as Morgan Edge of Intergang if he is to appear in the film. Seeing him square up to Spacey's Luthor will be clas,man.
Feb. 9, 2005, 9:08 a.m. CST
I know she died and all, but I assumed they'd be doing the Phoenix storyline in X3. Singer is becoming a real pain in the ass. He's f%&ked the franchise he started.
Feb. 9, 2005, 9:13 a.m. CST
Superherohype has another report confirming that Famke will be in X3- the Phoenix storyline. Now I assumed because of the shooting clashes and the Fox/Singer catfight that no cast members could cross over for cameos- the reason why Iceman couldn't play Jimmy.
Feb. 9, 2005, 9:30 a.m. CST
by Mr Chuff
Surely this just fucks with the whole X-Men logic!?! I dont think I could believe the luscious Famke as Ma Supes when she's also Jean Grey. I thought the same when Patrick Stewart was being rumoured for Jor-El... just fucks my head about!!
Feb. 9, 2005, 9:36 a.m. CST
by Mr Chuff
and WHY are you people insistng that Jude Law is any good? I just DONT get it at all. He's wetter than a fishes wet bits and there's NO WAY on earth that he will beat Stamps mockney/cockney "take him" from Superman II. It STILL makes me laugh to this day when Terence loses his accent so openly!!
Feb. 9, 2005, 9:38 a.m. CST
If this movie is a continuation of the other Superman movies why not cast Stamp in the role?
Feb. 9, 2005, 10:02 a.m. CST
by TheGinger Twit
i dont care how optimistic any of you can be - this is bullshit!
Feb. 9, 2005, 10:33 a.m. CST
Feb. 9, 2005, 10:41 a.m. CST
It IS possible for Famke to shoot both. Lara will most likely be a cameo of sorts and would require minimal shooting time. FOX has no sway over her choice as they did with Ashmore who is under contract for 2 X-sequels. Add to that the fact that the Pheonix story line figures prominently in X3 and FOX most likely had to be flexible. As for the "why Zod again"/too many characters/too many villians-- remember Singer being asked if he'll use footage from the first 2 Superman movies? Remeber Singer saying something to the effect of "yes-- but not in the way you'd expect"? Well... what if he restages classic movie moments with a new cast? Perhaps as a recapt during the opening credits a la Superman II! Maybe Zod, Jor-El and Lara are only in the first 5 minutes and the rest of the film is about Superman's return, with Luthor and Metallo as the Big Bads!! Get Singer on the phone-- STAT.
Feb. 9, 2005, 11:07 a.m. CST
This can't be true, if it is they are trying to ape Batman Begins with a name full cast which means nobody is concentrating on making a really good moooovie! Comic book movies are over for another decade, let's hold back, chill a little bit and come back a fresh in 2016
Feb. 9, 2005, 11:23 a.m. CST
by Homer Sexual
I don't think she works enough! Where did they find this underexposed actress? In any case, at least Famke is talented (unlike, say Jessica Alba)and will do a good job, but having her as both Jean Grey and Supes' mom is a little much. In any case, her best role was Ava Moore in Nip/Tuck. If only Julian McMahon was going to be Jor-El, it would be a DC/Marvel/NipTuck three-way.
Feb. 9, 2005, 11:28 a.m. CST
"if it is they are trying to ape Batman Begins with a name full cast which means nobody is concentrating on making a really good moooovie" - what do you think, Nolan is just going to sit on his ass because he has great actors? People who work on a movie are concentrating exactly on that. Nolan and Singer are strong directors and even if they fail, it should at least be interesting since they take their jobs pretty seriously. Of course, Ang Lee's was caca, but he didn't really have the same background of tension/suspense that these other two have.
Feb. 9, 2005, 11:39 a.m. CST
Or maybe Ashley Olsen. Which one is more chimplike? You know who'd make a great Bizarro? Sylvester Stallone! The role he was born to play!
Feb. 9, 2005, 11:52 a.m. CST
Hi guys, now I'm not saying that this is correct (my 49-year-old Welsh fanboy geek memory isn't what it used to be) but... isn't John Corbin 'Metallo'?
Feb. 9, 2005, 11:57 a.m. CST
But you think Fox will lose face letting Famke film even a cameo in Supes. Maybe they'll just tell her to get lost and recast Jean. It's a total toys out of pram war.
Feb. 9, 2005, 12:12 p.m. CST
He will. I'm just saying. And the rest of the cast, I was impressed too. Bryan Singer is one great pitch man, or is this script really that outstanding? The most surprising was Daniel Day-Lewis, who will be amazing no doubt, and Jude's inclusion was the most delightful, *g*. Famke is a cool choice too. I wish they'd just tell her Phoenix story for "X-Men" though - that's the story. I don't care about these other newbies.
Feb. 9, 2005, 12:29 p.m. CST
Feb. 9, 2005, 12:42 p.m. CST
Thinking about it Jude Law is a pretty good choice for Zod, although can he be evil and forceful enough to deliver a line like 'kneel before Zod!' with any gravitas? It wouldn't surprise me if this one wasn't about Zod at all and that the role is reduced to cameo level (maybe setting up the sequel...). Famke would have been a good choice for Zod's woman (I've forgotten her name), and Day-Lewis? Where the fuck are they going with this? Is this a sequel or not......a 're-imagining' without the origin story but with flashbacks to Krypton? This cast does smell a little like one person's 'dream' casting (not mine, that's for sure, but if it's true I'll live with it.). I never really wanted it to be 'Superman - starring....', which is why an unknown Superman was good news.
Feb. 9, 2005, 12:58 p.m. CST
Sounds like BS to me. Sounds like somebody's 'wish list' rather than something likely. I guess that's why they call these rumors.
Feb. 9, 2005, 1:17 p.m. CST
SHH did post this news yesterday, but it has been taken down, as reported on www.superman-v.com, who also say that Kal Penn will be playing Clark's friend, not Luthor's henchman. Rumour has it, James (Cyclops) Marsden has been kicked off X-Men 3 for taking a part in Superman Returns, but maybe Famke could do both, as Fox may consider her more valuable to the X-Men franchise than Marsden (and that's if they go forward with the Dark Phoenix storyline, which was Singer's plan).
Feb. 9, 2005, 2:08 p.m. CST
by George Newman
Yeah, if this stuff has been taken off superherohype, then you guys need to acknowledge that this is crap, too.
Feb. 9, 2005, 2:20 p.m. CST
It's over. Stick a fork in it. Won't be seeing this. Jude Law as Zod is just piss-poor casting. Can you imagine him saying "Kneel before Zod" in that effete voice of his, with smirking grin? Meanwhile Terence Stamp languishes in Elektra and Ashton Kutcher comedies. General Zod was done perfectly the first time round...if I was in charge of this movie, I would not do that storyline, or Luthor, because you just couldn't do it any better than the Christopher Reeve era. Over and out.
Feb. 9, 2005, 2:34 p.m. CST
To heck with Supermans return. Zod is back baby!!
Feb. 9, 2005, 2:44 p.m. CST
by Childe Roland
...of bullshit and fanboy jizz, as if it came wrapped in the sheets off some 400-pound basement dweller's bed after a particularly vivid pepperoni-and-peanut-butter-pizza-induced wet dream. I'll believe it when I see it on an official movie poster.
Feb. 9, 2005, 4:19 p.m. CST
by Lost Skeleton
I love Singer's casting and this IS going in the right direction. Looks like we are going to get our Superman. Someone in the talkbacks yesterday said that this year may be Marvels decline and DC's rise. We will see but the trailer for Batman Begins has me excited and the casting news for Singer's Supes has me excited as well...except for Kate Bosworth as Louis. I am still not buying that one.
Feb. 9, 2005, 4:19 p.m. CST
Don't be surprised if both Jude Law and Terence Stamp both played Zod - maybe some vortex that ages Law into Stamp. Still I think Stamp should be in this in some capacity if not Zod. Give Stamp some pancake, slick his hair and dye it black and paste on a beard..he prolly doesnt look that different from '78.
Feb. 9, 2005, 4:23 p.m. CST
... playing the earring-wearing, tattooed right hand man to Lex Luthor. Yeah I remember him from the comics. Uh...no I don't. Nothing against Kal-El Penn, but what does this character add? www.theletterd.blogspot.com
Feb. 9, 2005, 4:24 p.m. CST
daniel day lewis, famke jansen, kevin bacon, eva marie saint, jude law -- its better, its improving -- still the cast is a far cry from gene hackman, marlon brando, trevor howard, terence stamp, susanah york, glen ford etc etc.
Feb. 9, 2005, 4:36 p.m. CST
I think... smells like... hmm.... yep... BULLSHIT. Lets see some fucking credentials 'Rich'.. While I agree the severely fuckable Famke could possibly be in the movie as a cameo, wouldn't that be enough ammunition to give James Marsden a chance to come back as Cyclops in X3? (not that I wanted him for it in the first place, back in 97 my first choice was Vince Vaughn, believe it or not). It just smells alot like Bullshit. It would be COOL if it were true, but Harry and Co. have been fooled before. Here's a scoop for you.. In other casting news, Jack Nicholson has singed on for a record 190 million dollars to play the most important part in superman, the rolled up football socks in supermans little red undies....
Feb. 9, 2005, 5:05 p.m. CST
Feb. 9, 2005, 6:52 p.m. CST
Daniel Day-Lewis is interesting. Kal Penn bothers me. Barry Pepper is good. Kevin Bacon is another interesting one. Does this mean he's going to be naked? I hope not.
Feb. 9, 2005, 7:29 p.m. CST
Mark "Pillow Biter", more like it... Word.
Feb. 9, 2005, 7:46 p.m. CST
I just hope this doesn't ruin X3 (as if it weren't already ruined enough). While a lot of the casting in this movie is actually pretty good, I still can't get my hopes too high. My doubts just won't go away!!! I'd still rather that Singer made X3, damn him. Zod is a great character... but can Jude Law live up to even half of what Terence Stamp did with the role? If he can, thats actually impressive, lol. Somehow I just can't picture Daniel Day Lewis doing this movie, sounds suspicious as hell. The guy from Harold and Kumar playing Luthor's sidekick?? They might as well have just gotten Jon Cryer back as Lenny Luthor!!! They might as well have picked out the latest fat comedian to achieve any slight hint of success and casted him as Otis!!!!
Feb. 9, 2005, 8:23 p.m. CST
"...truth, justice, and the American way, BROTHER"
Feb. 9, 2005, 8:40 p.m. CST
by Captain Katanga
and that is the scene where richard pryor skis off the top of that building wearing a pink tablecloth.
Feb. 9, 2005, 11 p.m. CST
You know it's true. Jude Law is far more versatile than alot of his peers. This casting news just makes me VERY curious about the script...Jor-El, Lara, Zod...wiil Ursa and Non be around? Can't wait for some script leaks.
Feb. 9, 2005, 11:07 p.m. CST
And who the fuck knows..anyway??
Feb. 9, 2005, 11:23 p.m. CST
He seems like a decent actor but I really don't see why he gets all these good roles, and I don't get why he's considered so HOT by the chicks. He seems kind of wimpy to me and not all that attractive. I guess its the times we live in; people want males that aren't so macho. I don't think thats as much a response to the marketplace though as it is to politics going on in Hollywood. Macho white males just aren't offered the good roles anymore, especially for violent action flicks - they're politically incorrect I guess.
Feb. 10, 2005, 1:26 a.m. CST
couple that with the fact that Bryan Singer said it's a direct sequel to Superman II and you have your answer... Jude Law will be Zod in either the very beginning, or in a legthy flashback scene (more akin to the classic batman flashback we had in Batman Beyond ROTJ) whichever way SInger goes, it's gonna be no more then 10 - 15 minutes screentime for Jude Law. and personally, i think it's good casting, looks wise anyway, Jude Law with slicked back black hair and a beard to match will look ALOT like Terrence Stamp circa '78. And as for JorEl and Lara... well, remember in the original movies when Supes had all that recorded stuff in the crystals? well obviously that's what this is, he's gonna be looking at his crystals at the Fortress of Solitude for information or something and that's where we get our JorEl and Lara schtick... i mean tittyfucking Muhammad you talkbackers have either NEVER SEEN the first two Superman movies, or you're all stupid as fuck.
Feb. 10, 2005, 5:36 a.m. CST
I've just eaten a bowl of maggots from straight out of your dead mom's cunt. What's your malfunction, little boy?
Feb. 10, 2005, 5:39 a.m. CST
by Monkey Chops
They didn't actually use that word, but they've definitely called BS on it. Superhero Hype have taken it down, too.
Feb. 10, 2005, 9:49 a.m. CST
by Barry Egan
Feb. 10, 2005, 1:35 p.m. CST
His teeth look like young Tom Cruise in 'The Bounty'(the Brit curse for bad teeth and dentists) and now he's got new choppers, just like Tommy boy. Heh heh.
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