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I am – Hercules!!

“Wonderfalls is a lovely series,” writes my friend and mentor Harry Knowles in his recommendation of the series’ box set this month. “Although - after the 13 episodes - I felt that was all I ever needed from it. As a continuing series I think it might have just become way way way too gimmicky - but in this short, but sweet run it's just right.”

Honestly, I did wonder if perhaps Harry didn’t have a point.

But. You can’t always judge a series’ future by its first 13 episodes. I had, at best, lowish expectations for “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” following its uneven first season. It took the magnificent arrival of Spike and Dru in the third episode of the second season to make me sit up straight and start paying attention.

So. What if Fox moved “24” to Mondays a year early? What if, instead of granting “Wonderfalls” its Friday-night death-slot, Fox had launched “Wonderfalls” right after a Tuesday edition of “American Idol”? Would last season’s best new series also be Fox’s highest-rated scripted hourlong right now? And where would Jaye Tyler’s second- and third-season adventures have taken us?

The “Wonderfalls” box set finally hit shelves Tuesday and with it comes word of what creator Bryan Fuller had in mind for the series, post-1.13 (beware the major box-set spoilers that follow):

* At what point in season two would Jaye and bartender Eric have commenced boning? “I'd argue for episode one,” Fuller tells Ain’t It Cool. “I mean, Jesus, fuck already. Right?”

* A major season-two story arc would have involved Jaye’s sister Sharon enduring a miracle pregnancy. "The big thrust of the second season was going to be a miracle-birth arc, with Sharon [Katie Finneran], the lesbian sister,” Fuller told SciFi.com. “We set that up in a [first-season] episode called 'Safety Canary,' where she breaks up with her bisexual girlfriend, who then goes back to her husband and has sex with him. After they've had sex, Sharon comes back to her bisexual girlfriend and says, 'I want to still be with you,' and then they have sex. So the semen in the bisexual girl's vagina gets into lesbian Sharon's vagina and she becomes pregnant, though she's never had sex with a man. So the whole arc of season two was going to be this miracle birth/Jesus arc and Jaye coming to the conclusion she may be a little bit of a prophet.”

* The DVD’s own mini-doc reveals, if I remember correctly, that Jaye would be institutionalized at the conclusion of the second season. At the start of the third season, she asks “Why me?” And the answer comes back: “Because you listen.”

* Season three follows up on the first-season episode “Cocktail Bunny,” with the world learning that Jaye Tyler has powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. “Dr. Ron was going to write a book about Jaye and her quasi-Jesus complex and expose her,” explains Fuller. “There would be groupies.”

Herc, I wonder who won your “Wonderfalls” contest!

And so, at this point, do I. The average “Wonderfalls” talkback, I think, generates maybe 16 talkbacks, four of which have nothing to do with “Wonderfalls.” So you can imagine my fear and surprise when we got more than 1,000 entries vying for the five “Wonderfalls” box sets AICN is giving away. (Entry deadline has long since expired, so please. Enough.) I printed all the entries out and bound them together with very long-stemmed brass brads. They look like two Greater Los Angeles phonebooks. I’m done with the first phonebook. I carry the second around with me everywhere, reading as my car registration renewal and tax returns go begging. Suffice it to say, with this many entries, you have very little chance of winning. You might just want to just buy the set. If you win, you can always turn a friend, family member or object of lust onto this incredible dead show by re-gifting. In any event, I’ll be certain to notify all five winners by email the minute I’m done. Hopefully within another week or two. You'll forgive the delay. Because it is entirely your fault.

No, it wouldn't have been one of Fox's highest rated series with a better time slot ... because it sucks. Horribly. Please hurry up and give away the DVD sets so maybe THEN I won't have to see the word "Wonderfalls" anywhere. Ever again. Thanks. -- talkbacker "Lou C."

Well, good luck with that, Lou. Because Harry Knowles' positive notice was only one of many ...

chud.com says:
"Wonderfalls has quite the surprising cult following, considering its quick downfall on FOX’s behalf. I can only predict this following growing larger now that the entire series has been released on DVD. If you were ever curious about this show, be sure to pick up this set. And if this review has your interested piqued please be sure to pick up this set. Wonderfalls has something for just about everyone out there."

tvshowsondvd.com says:
"Six of the 13 episodes contain commentary by Caroline Dhavernas, Katie Finneran, Todd Holland and Bryan Fuller. The tracks are great, and you can hear the bonds formed between the cast and crew members. Listen to these; they're entertaining."

The mini-doc's great too, especially the giddy new interviews with Caroline Dhavernas and Katie Finnerman.





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Readers Talkback
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  • Feb. 2, 2005, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Wondering what's doing with AICN's Wonderfalls contest? See the

    by Hercules

    Also? FIRST!!

  • Feb. 2, 2005, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Stupid firsters

    by GTfilmgeek

    They remind me of 12 yr old girls, oh wait its Herc.

  • ... because it sucks. Horribly. Please hurry up and give away the DVD sets so maybe THEN I won't have to see the word "Wonderfalls" anywhere. Ever again. Thanks.

  • Feb. 2, 2005, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Dhavernas got nekkid

    by I Hate Movies

    Thank God for European cinema.

  • Feb. 2, 2005, 11:41 p.m. CST

    I love the hell out of this show

    by BigDogg

    but I am sort of glad that there was no second season because the 1st season ended perfectly with Jaye and Eric ending up together and Jaye telling the wax lion to shut up and it actually did (before this whenever she told them to be quiet, they'd keep talking). That 2nd season "miracle pregnancy" sounds like a massive shark jump and I'm glad that I didnt have to endure it. And I'm man enough to admit that I was weeping a bit when Eric was being interviewed on the news on why he knew something was wrong in the finale.

  • Feb. 2, 2005, 11:44 p.m. CST

    cool, new quickpost thingy!!!

    by Monkey Butler

    We never actually got to see Wonderfalls in Australia, but I reckon I would've checked it out, if just to see what got Herc so excited. And I'm confused - was the miracle pregnancy thing supposed to be actually caused by that bisexual thing (because that's stupid) or was that just a flimsy explanation for an actual miracle?

  • Feb. 2, 2005, 11:47 p.m. CST

    dhavernas naked? where where where?

    by Toe Jam

    i highly doubt "wonderfalls" would have been a hit regardless of its time slot. pairing a quality show with a mega-ratings lead-in hardly ever seems to benefit the former. just look at "arrested development." even with "the simpsons" as a lead-in, it's barely hanging on. that's rather tragic, really.

  • Feb. 2, 2005, 11:59 p.m. CST

    "Dhavernas got nekkid"

    by Anlashok

    Someone confirm this please, preferably with links and photos. Make it happen.

  • I do think that "Wonderfalls" is one of those shows that probably can't sustain itself indefinitely, or even all that long, but it was a short and, by many accounts, brilliant series. I had wondered if continuing on after the first season was even such a good idea (of course, numbers would decide either way), but sticking the main character in an insane asylum is pretty unconventional, which leads me to believe they wouldn't be prolonging the series just for the sake of prolonging it. It's a shame that this show didn't catch on, and I can almost see how it wouldn't appeal to people, but there's stuff going on in "Wonderfalls" that makes it very worthwhile. The humor, the zeitgeist, Caroline Dhavernas, talking chickens...

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 12:16 a.m. CST

    Dhavernas Nekkid

    by Dmann

    For anyone who hated me for my reviews of ER.... from www.cndb.com (the celebrity nude database, info only, no pics). Tulse Luper Suitcases, Part 1: The Moab Story, The reviewer "Karrde" says Despite the nudity being short lived, I'm giving the cutie Dhavernas 3 stars here because she bares it all, though briefly. We get a couple of good side views of her nice, natural breasts, and a quickie side view of her quite untrimmed bush. But it's defnintely there. Your best bet is to pause the flick during the good frames in order to grab a good gander at her lovely treats. Not to mention Edge of Madness where reviewer "cecil" says You'll need a pause button for most of these. At 7 minutes she undresses for a bath, a few frames of side view of rear. A minute later we see her in a flashback jump out of a tub and run to the other side of the room, a few brief views of her bare rear. Then at 10 minutes, back to reality, a very brief view of one breast as she lies in the tub. At 16 minutes she is changing outside by a campfire, her husband is turned on, and chases after her. A few dimly lit views of her bare backside. At 42 minutes she opens her blouse and shows off her bare breasts to Brendan Fehr for about 3 seconds. Clear and well-lit. Then at about 62 minutes she has a sex scene with Corey Sevier. A close up rear shot as she crawls on top of him, a few frames of the side of a bare breast as they embrace and kiss, then a lingering side view of her bare rear as she sits in his lap as they have sex (breasts are hidden by arms). This may be the wierdest talkback I have ever written...damn you all to hell. I feel the need to rent these, then wash my eyeballs with lye soap.

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 12:34 a.m. CST

    the nudity

    by lousypunk8

    ugh, i feel oddly worthless posting only this in a talkback about a show i really did love, but there's a (small) screencap from that Tulse Luper Suitcases or whatever here: http://www.fakes.net/top10_2004.htm. its number 15 on the list. consider this a public service, or something. also, wonderfalls is awesome, the unaired episodes are great, buy the dvd.

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 12:44 a.m. CST

    " the semen in the bisexual girl's vagina gets into lesbian Shar

    by Gheorghe Zamfir

    Yea, damn shame we missed that. I hooked myself up with the free trial at Netflix just to check out this DVD set though, because yes, I am that cheap. Can't wait to get it.

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 12:51 a.m. CST

    Ask and ye shall receive ... Dhavernas nudity!

    by I Hate Movies

    http://www.onlineshrine.net/caroline-dhavernas/ click on "gallery" in the top menu bar for Jaye Tyler in the flesh.

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 12:53 a.m. CST

    mine arrived today!

    by Fantomex

    can't wait

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 1:04 a.m. CST

    onlineshrine.net ?

    by Creamery Butter

    "click on 'gallery'"? It leads to a Googe Image Search. Dumbasses. Anyone can do that.

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 4:23 a.m. CST

    Want nudity? Click here.

    by DarthHomercles

    http://www.celeb-nudity.com/gallery/dhavernas_tulse_n_05.jpg

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 4:48 a.m. CST

    Caroline Dhavernas

    by proper

    I always thought she'd make a nice Lois Lane.

  • Even though I had to repeat the Obstetrics and Gynaecology module twice - (It just wasn't my thing) The event (mircale conception) as described would not work. Of course if some mystical or supernatural event was involved, well that would be different.

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Ahhhhh...

    by Anlashok

    ...Gracias gentlemen for the links. I am always grateful to diligent fellows like yourself who unearth the goods for lazy pervs like me. Ahem, as for the show, loved it, and will definitely purchase the DVD.

  • On the off chance that some misguided network execs have a penchant for reading AICN trolls, perhaps we should maybe talk positively about more than just Dhavernas' nudity? Anyway, my boxed set is still in the mail, so I have yet to see the final episodes in a finished format (downloaded the BT releases of the unfinished final episodes, still didn't get to see all of them though). What I saw of them, however, was absolutely awesome. I really would have loved to see this show continue. Oh, mythical network execs, you know that 18-35 white male demographic you're losing? I'm in it. There are now two shows on TV I bother watching, BSG, and The Shield. See how little of my time you get now?

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 10:20 a.m. CST

    $500

    by Harrys Man Boobs

    I can't believe that time, energy and bandwidth is still being devoted to a show that ran a handfull of episodes and cancelled a year ago. Jeezus christ. MOVE ON! Herc, go to LA and find a whore who looks like Caroline Dhavernas, band her and get it out of your system. Hell, you could probably get Caroline Dhavernas herself for $500.

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 2:38 p.m. CST

    I saw the whole series in Canada

    by Spears777

    It's great, although you'll want to kill Jewel Staite's character by the end of it. The last episode is awesome!

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Hmm ... will have to check into this one at some point...

    by SpacePhil

    n/t

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 4:03 p.m. CST

    'why me?' / 'because you listen' already happened!

    by matrix69

    In the season 1 episode "Cocktail Bunny". Jaye refuses to lick the light switch unless Dr. Ron's monkey answers the 'Why me?' question. Catch up, Herc!

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 4:06 p.m. CST

    and why is it "kinda weird"...

    by matrix69

    ..."to find out that Bryan Fuller and Todd Holland are two flaming homos", sparklecopy? Gay men are superior beings. Get over yourself.

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Uh-oh, ANOTHER can of worms

    by Ribbons

    Spongebob isn't gay, you sillyheads! Also, yeah, I think we ought to talk about more than Caroline Dhavernas' nudity. Best I can figure it, it's some messed-up, unspoken code that geeks feel the need to prove their heterosexuality by panting over potential nudie shots. "DHAVERNAS NUDITY?!?!?!" I mean jeez, fellas. And I don't wanna hear any of this "I'm a red-blooded American man" jibber jabber, because that just proves my point.

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Happy to have the DVDs

    by bubcus

    I bought the boxset yesterday and it is wonderful! I highly recommend it to anyone. It's sort of funny to hear people slamming the show. I think any critic should watch the mail-order bride episode and THEN pass judgement... it's an absolute fan favorite. Anyhow, glad to have the set and a little spooked by what some of the plans were for the following seasons (virgin birth and Jaye institutionalized), I think I'll just be happy with the happy ending on the last episode and rejoice in Jaye's cute smile.

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 8:44 p.m. CST

    God, the immaculate conception idea sounds really lame

    by cornstalkwalker

    Jaye Tyler was very attractive and caused me to watch the show. Too bad it was cancelled before the rest of season 1 was aired.

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Wait?

    by Dmann

    So, we only like boobs because we're reacting to homosexuality? FUCK...and here I thought it was deep seeded freudian issues and some sort of deeper biological instinct to want to have sex with women who show us that they indeed are capable of feeding babies. Either that or because theyre BOOBIES! Boobies are cool.

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Yeah...

    by Ribbons

    So I went to pick this up today (at Best Buy; don't hurt me film snobs) and apparently the shipment was recalled. Whaaa?

  • Feb. 3, 2005, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Actually, i kind of like the groupie idea....

    by Jimmy Jazz

    Just the thought of Jaye Tyler with disciples makes me smile. And anyone who thinks this great show "sucked" has a serious lack of taste. Perhaps you should go back to your "American Survivor Plastic Surgery Model Karaoke Donald Trump Asslicker" Horseshit.

  • Feb. 4, 2005, 9:17 a.m. CST

    As it stands...

    by Banky the Hack

    I prefer what actually happened in this show's second and third seasons.

  • Feb. 4, 2005, 2:22 p.m. CST

    the conception

    by JackDonkey

    would have been stupid i think, like season 3 gilmore girls, or season 4 farscape.

  • Feb. 4, 2005, 5:02 p.m. CST

    The pregnant lesbian cliche

    by SkiffyPup

    You know, my friends and I were sad when this show was cancelled. There just aren't that many lesbians on television- And even fewer that aren't crazy/punishmentbait, dead, or PREGNANT. Oh, wait. BOY, am I ever glad this show got cancelled before they let us down. HINT to TV producers: Just show some chix dating, mkay? You know, like all the other characters. The baby thing? Done to death. We are over it. OVER.IT.

  • Feb. 4, 2005, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Box Set

    by Mad_Radhu

    You know, it is actually sold out at my local Best Buy. I wouldn't be totally shocked if this show doesn't pull a "Family Guy" on Fox.

  • Feb. 5, 2005, 12:29 p.m. CST

    I think Enterprise coulda used some pregnant lesbians.

    by HanFiredFirst

  • Feb. 6, 2005, 10:50 p.m. CST

    "the show is about faith and theology."

    by matrix69

    Gays can't have faith or be interested in theology? Why do people seem to think that homosexuality and matters of faith are mutually exclusive? Also, do you not realize that they're totally poking fun at the Republican characters? Many of us fags/dykes have conservative parents that we still love -- do you actually *know* any gay people? Regardless, the show was masterminded by two flaming homos, so deal. Now what?

  • Feb. 6, 2005, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Please...

    by Ribbons

    "So deal. Now what?" Sounds to me like someone's on a witchhunt. While the comment may be a little on the ignorant side, it didn't strike me as homophobic, so just simmer down.

  • I could see Jaye getting all drunk on power easily, and believing herself to be a messiah/messenger/prophet who forsaw the miracle birth of her sister's kid. But at the same time, that pregnancy story sounds so....stupid and absurd and overthetop-in-a-bad-way that I'm almost glad they were stopped before they could do it. I wonder what a full season would have done to the pacing too. 13 episodes made for a good arc, but I don't know if they could have sustained a normal twenty-odd episode season. As for the asylum season 3 story (Herc, you forgot that the Spencer Breslin character would have turned up there as a pyromaniac), I'm really not sure. The "Because you listen" answer was already given, so that would have been frustrating for me in the audience. Come to think of it, she's not a very good listener, so maybe she needed to hear it a few more times. Ahem. Anyway, I should add that I suffered through a kidney stone this week and Wonderfalls got me through it--although I was pretty insane by the last episode. I wonder wonder why the wonder falls...I wonder why the wonder falls on me... I wonder wonder why AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!