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UPDATED!!A Spike-Centric Buffiverse TV Movie'' Er ...

I am – Hercules!!

We’re aware of it! So you can stop writing now!

If you, gentle reader, are one of the 17 Americans who are not aware of it, here’s the what. Someone named Grace wrote TV Guide’s Mike Ausiello with this:

I'm pleased to hear that you plan to ask the WB folks about Angel movies, but please, what we need are Spike movies starring James Marsters. So, if those WBers try to brush you off with a generic "David Boreanaz is busy," you'll help us out and ask specifically about Spike, won't you please? — Grace

Ausiello replied:

Ausiello: As you predicted, WB president David Janollari immediately played the "[Boreanaz] has a lot of other things going on" card when I asked him for an update on the Angel movies. But I was ready with my Spike follow-up. "I've never thought of that," he said of doing a Marsters-centric telepic. "I had not thought about it. We always thought Angel would be the character the audience would want to come back to see. We may give some thought to the Spike movie. That's interesting."

Some 900 Coaxial News readers immediately wrote to ask if I’d heard of this “TV Guide” publication and if I’d seen the news. One AICN reader, we’ll call her “Marie,” asks Herc:

What did you think of the WB's comment about the possiblity of a Spike movie? They must have known there was fan support for it. Was he being stupid or just oily?

Whaaaa? Neither! “We may give some thought to a Spike movie,” he says! And I say thank you, Mr. Janollari! Thank you thank you thank you!! Can someone quickly organize a pilgrimage to Burbank, Calif., so that we may grovel gratefully en masse before Mr. Janollari’s lushly appointed office and groan thanks for his possible willingness to think about devoting two hours of valuable WB airtime - airtime that might otherwise be earmarked for an exciting two-hour “Summerland” event!! - to one of the most popular and compelling characters ever to grace American television?

Can we bathe his tasseled Italian loafers with our tongues, pausing only to howl gratitude to the passing WB programmers who canceled “Angel” but spared “One Tree Hill”? Can we at last be allowed to personally acknowledge their roles in filling the consequent primetime void with serialized marvels like “The Mountain,” “Blue Collar TV,” “Jack & Bobby,” and “Drew Carey’s Green Screen Show”? Can we construct please football-field-size signage hailing “David Janollari: Programming Genius”? Can we assign massive Army cargo helicopters to dangle said signage over Hollywood Way from now until the end of eternity?

For the record, James Marsters revealed on Australian television back in July that Buffiverse mastermind Joss Whedon had approached him about reprising his most famous role in one of four potential TV movies. The news was ceaselessly cycled all over the media for weeks; I think it even trickled all the way down to the local newscasts here in Los Angeles. Can the PRESIDENT OF THE FUCKING WB be so consumed with organizing ski trips and tanning sessions and aborting "Global Frequency" that he's wholly unaware that both Marsters and Whedon are keen to make a TV-movie for which millions of fans have been salivating for months??

Jesus Christ!! Who hired this asshole??

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  • Jan. 28, 2005, 2:16 a.m. CST

    I think Herc just broke the needle on the sarcasm meter

    by Tall_Boy

    The ANGRY sarcasm meter. And why do I think "meter" is spelled wrong, anyway?

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 2:26 a.m. CST

    About F'ing Time!

    by Purgatori

    Spike was one of the best characters ever written and acted on television. Marsters had more depth than the entire casts of both Buffy and Angel combined (except possibly Alyson Hannigan.) For fucks sake, give Marsters his own show and let him shine. Get rid of the crap like the Mountain (aka Winterland) and Summerland and whatever numerous 30 min long crap you all call sitcoms and give us back a real actor. Spike and James have both earned it.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 3:07 a.m. CST

    Herc Slowly Inserts The Shaft Into His Mouth

    by TheYellowBoy

    from another Hollyweird exec. Hmmph. ANYhoo! Spike? With is own tv movie? Before Anyone else in the Buffyverse? OH-FREAKIN'-COURSE Spike first. He's only the best character Joss & team could have ever created. James gave life to that character (sorry for the EXTREMELY stupid pun) and I can't think of another character I would rather see more on. Only problem is that if it is linear w/ what we have already seen, we would have to have a Angel Finale climax resolution before the show could go on, so GET TO WORK TV fuckups. I'm sick of the lame ass shit on TV right now. As a late twenties male (shocking, huh?), I need to get my pre/post-teen monsterverse fix on.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Don't care about spike...

    by Anlashok

    I want Willow or Faith, but I guess he's better than no scoobies at all.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 3:14 a.m. CST

    by rebel299

    please tell me that y'all's belief of spike to be one of the greatest and finest portrayed characters of all time is a joke. must not smell too good with your head up your ass.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 3:18 a.m. CST

    I actually like Jack & Bobby

    by Gheorghe Zamfir

    and what's the news here? Someone from the WB benig interviewed saying he hadn't thought of doing a Spike-tv movie? Think Whedon would even have time for this now, with Firefly coming out and Wonder Woman on the horizon?

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 3:23 a.m. CST

    Dear God Let It Happen!!!

    by Asimov's Brain

    Spike! Illyria! Gunn! Hell, even a show about Lorne!! For mercies sake, give us our back our Whedonverse!!!

  • "I had not thought about it. We always thought Angel would be the character the audience would want to come back to see" *sheesh*

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 3:56 a.m. CST

    I guess I am one of 17 since I didn't know and do not care about

    by Grabthars_Hammer

    I know the only reason Simpsons is still on is because of the merchandising. But still, it gets a prime time slot on a Sunday night. If Buffy was that good, it would still be on somehow. They would have offered that twit Gellar more money. But instead she thought she could do better on her own and make Scooby Doo shit and remakes. I can't wait until she disappears in a few years just like her husband has.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 6:12 a.m. CST

    With the huge volume of characters in this universe, I'm surpris

    by MikBones

    okay, so the really big stars are hard (read expensive) to get for Buffyverse TV movies. But what about the rest. A Spike/Dawn road movie to rescue her sister from some kind of evil, meeting up and securing help on the way. Andrew, and afterlife anya, one or two of the more memorable trainee slayers from season seven and to make things still more exciting, how about one or two from Angel. The electro girl, and if she's available, Fred in her new demon guise.<p> ok, so the above idea won't happen, but there have been loads of faces over the eight years of Buffyverse, and loads more could be done with a few TV movies, not to mention Money to be made from DVD sales. Who knows, maybe one TV movie would become so popular a whole new series could come out of it. Here's hoping. I'm so lonely....

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 6:13 a.m. CST

    Herc indulges in necrophilia

    by Bart of Darkness

    The "Buffyverse" is DEAD!

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 7:05 a.m. CST


    by RodneyOz's amazing that you can have such a massive contradiction in your SUBJECT HEADING and not care or notice. First you say about Buffy "If it was that great it would still be on the air," and then immediately follow with "Simpsons is still on and it is f'ing terrible." In other words, first you say that the quality of a show determines if it stays on air, THEN in your VERY NEXT sentence, give an example of a shpw that now sucks (according to you anyway) but remains on air due to marketing (as you point out in the body of your post). So which is it? Quality or economics - which decides if a show stays on air? In any case, shows that last for 144 episodes (Buffy) and 110 episodes (Angel) respectively can hardly be called failures in television terms. And so what if they had only lasted a season or half a season? Can't you think of ANY shows that were great but got cancelled prematurely? Or do you decide the quality of a film by what's won the opening weekend box office?

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 7:13 a.m. CST


    by BurlIvesLeftNut

    All that talk about grovelling and shoe licking made me hot. But I am a weirdo.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Spike Rules

    by webrageous

    I've always thought Spike was the most ingenius character to come out of the Whedonverse and I would love to see a Spike movie. It would be great if several of the other characters also appeared in the movie or even some having movies of their own. I don't trust the WB to actually do anything about the desire for more of the Whedonverse, but its good to see his shows continuing to generate buzz even when they're no longer on the air.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 9:29 a.m. CST

    by Potch

    I'd like to see a Spike/Faith movie. Hey, eliza is available now since Tru Calling is done. I think those two would have great chemistry!

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 10:05 a.m. CST

    As much as I'd like to see more Buffyverse stuff...

    by RenoNevada2000

    Maybe it still needs to rest a bit before we make a return visit. ANGEL was still firing on all cylinders when it went down, but the last thing I want to see is the continuation of the franchise, just to continue the franchise. That way lies VOYAGER and the first three seasons of ENTERPRISE. Still, I have the perfect line for the opening of a SPIKE movie. We open on the exterior of a rather dingy bar and hear in a voice over "So, anyways, I got to kill a dragon..." before cutting to inside to reveal Spike sitting at the bar boring some old drunk who is half passed out in a puddle of spilled beer...

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 10:09 a.m. CST

    I could dig on a Spike movie.

    by Childe Roland

    Although I always thought Marsters real strength was his ability to play off Boreanaz (both in Buffy and in Angel) and bring out the often ignored humorous potential there. So long as they ditch his Buffy baggage and let Spike do what he does best... be accidentally good while serving his own interests... it could be quite interesting. Having a more mature, responsible Faith in the mix might not be so bad, either... so long as she's not channeling Leather Tuscadero from Happy Days again.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Enough already.....

    by LVGamer

    I like the Buffy and Angel series as much as all the other fans, but for chrissakes please stop yelling at TV execs about killing "great" shows. A "great" show to a TV exec is one that costs relatively little to produce, when compared to the ratings/advertising dollars it pulls in. They are not in the business of making art, they are in the business of creating widely viewed slots of advertising time. Angel and Buffy were not "great" shows, and quite frankly I'm pleased that they were on as long as they were. No matter how much fans yell, it's the dollar that makes the decision. The simple fact is that while ratings for Angel and Buffy were good, the ratings/fan base is fixed at best, with only the potential to fall off. These shows are not going to pull in millions of new viewers after 5-8 seasons of storylines. By the way, in case you didn't get it, Herc didn't break the sarcasm meter, the WB exec broke it first.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Johnathon has to be in a movie with spike!

    by krims0nknite

    or whatever that guy's name is.. the geeky guy that was in the last eps of both buffy and i think angel. he read the story of the vampyre... and i remember something about vulcans.. and trogdor...

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 10:50 a.m. CST

    andrew i meant, not johnathon...

    by krims0nknite

    andrew and spike must team up, at least for a bit, in a spike movie

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Marsters himself said

    by Purgatori

    at the con up in Seattle that the Faith spin-off would have been Faith and Spike on a motorcycle, both of them trying for redemption while helping those they came across that needed it. At those words the entire room nearly cried that it never happened thanks to the crap that was Tru Calling. Now that that is over and Eliza's illustrous film career is not quite the disaster that Geller's is (Wrong Turn, Soul Survivors anyone?) maybe she'll realize that Faith is the best character she's ever done and come back to it. And while they are at it, bring back Caleb. He was badass for the whole five minutes of screen time he got.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Please Joss, Goddard, DeKnight, sombody make this happen

    by Whedon

    This new WB president sounds like an even bigger dick than Levin was, "I never thought of that..." what the hell?! Marsters is god and should have had his own spinoff in devolopment the second he uttered "Son of a BITCH!!" in the Girl in question. Come on Joss lets get this thing moving.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Spike became a wuss as seasons progressed. How do you go from wa

    by Mr. Profit

    Stupid 2 UPN Seasons..... Anyhow, I'd be keen to see a Buffy movie before I see any Spike movie. And it should be a Buffy Big Screen film. If the WB is going to do any TV movies, they should freaking get Ryan Murphy to write a Popular TV movie to tie up all the loose ends from the series.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 11:35 a.m. CST

    the problem is ...

    by arcadia

    I think James, while obviously wanting to branch out, could be coaxed into doing a Spike movie,as could Eliza and Tom. The Spike, Faith, Andrew dynamic is a must(can we say pilot). Amy will be done with maternity leave and could appear as Illyria with maybe some Giles or Ghostly Wes action. Anyhoo the prob is that Joss is busy finishing Serenity (sorry I have a sore spot for this movie/FF, it was the ruination of the Buffyverse imho) Plus there's talk of him doing Wonder Woman and there's still the comic. Fury is at Lost, Goddard/Bell at Alias, Deknight/Greenberg at Smallville, *cough*Marti*cough* at Point Pleasant (but not for long),Minear/Espensen are working on The Insider. So who's gonna write and direct. The actors don't seem to be a problem is getting the writers/director together. Al that said i hope they can work something, The WB has to have realized it's mistake and hopefully will correct it leigh

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Umm... Spike's dead

    by Mafu

    I know Buffy died twice, Angel died at least once, and several other characters have been brought back to life through unexpected circumstances, but I think Spike should stay dead. His exit from season seven was dramatic, tying up several loose ends about the transformation of his character. I say leave him dead, otherwise none of what happened matters.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one who wanted to see the BBC Giles show that neve

    by Barry Egan

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Spike and Illyria movie would be cool

    by Helena

    Two great characters, they could brighten TV wasteLAnd!

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 1:28 p.m. CST

    The WB sucks donkeys and goats.....

    by Hairy Nutsack

    Why in hell would Joss go back to the WB? I'm still pissed off about that "Thank you from your friends at the WB." line from the end of Angel, that was one of the most fucked up things ever. With friends like these who needs demons ramming hot pokers up my ass? No no no, thank you WB, no really thank yooooouuu.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Spike Lives ...

    by webrageous

    Mafu ... I guess you didn't see season 5 of "Angel" which occured after the season 7 ending of Buffy. Spike is very much alive and I believe they all survived the ending in Not Fade Away.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 2:10 p.m. CST


    by AshFett

    I know it's easy to make Boreanaz fat jokes, but have you seen pictures of him since Angel ended? He looks great; buff, fit and in much better shape then he was on Angel season five. His interviews at the time reflected how tired he was of the grind of the show and the fact that right after he started to look a lot healthier seem to reflect that. As for tv movies: I came to loathe the pussified Spike of Buffy season seven, but they managed to make him fun again in Angel season five. I wouldn't mind a tv movie with him as long as other characters were in it, but I think a Spike series would be a bad idea. A Faith show though? Me likey.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 3:29 p.m. CST


    by BTR1701

    All you folks who keep suggesting Andrew be included as a character... what sort of drugs are you on? He was easily the most annoying, puling, grating thing to ever come out of Mutant Enemy. He's like fingernails on a blackboard every moment he's on screen. There are so many great stories to tell with all the other characters that wasting screen time with that Andrew garbage would be a travesty. As for the "Spike and Faith on a motorcycle bit", well that was one of the reasons Eliza turned it down and went with "Tru Calling". She rightly thought it wouldn't make much sense for Spike, who is supposedly in love with Buffy for the last two years, to suddenly drop it all and head off with Faith. Eliza recognized it for what it was: the studio execs trying to shoehorn a character into a setting where he didn't belong in order to capture the swooning female demographic. So when Eliza turned it down, they promptly shoehorned the Spike character into ANGEL where he didn't bbelong in order to capture the swooning female demographic.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 4:12 p.m. CST


    by Mafu

    Um... ok. Sorry, I didn't realize Spike had come back to life. I watched seasons 1-3 of "Angel" on DVD, but I never actually watched "Buffy" or "Angel" when it was on tv. My bad.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Re: Grabthar's Hammer

    by Grabthars_Hammer

    I know what I said. My point in that is that Buffy had no where near the merchandising power that Simpsons has. So something would have to keep it going. It wasn't these 5-star episodes that were always talked about on here, otherwise the show wouldn't be dead. I've watched some Buffy eps and they were okay. But nowhere near the BEST SHOW EVER IN THE HISTORY OF TV that it is always touted by people on AICN. I will give it to you that it had longevity, but that does not mean it was good. And in that case is where you contradicted youself. Just because it last over a hundred eps doesn't make it good.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 4:42 p.m. CST


    by ryLRci

    WB is finally groveling it's way out of the shithole it buried itself in when it allowed Buffy to go, cancelled Angel, renewed 7th Heaven, and premiered The Mountain. 4 of the most god-awful things in recent television history.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 6:24 p.m. CST

    just in case firefly sucks...

    by dr.bulber

    buffy. DUST. HIM. ALREADY.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Mutant Enemy shut down?

    by Rinse

    I was waiting at the grocery store about a month ago and was flipping through some Sci-Fi magazine with a Joss Whedon interview specifically regarding the news that Mutant Enemy the production company has been shut down and employees sent home. Whedon also indicated that he's done with television for a while. ..Doesn't this pretty much mean no WB TV movie? FWIW, the reporter seemed terribly saddened by the news, but did not appear ready to personally pleasure WB president David Janollari in order bring about a Spike TV movie.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Hell Yeah! Bring on Spike!!

    by Nicky Butane

    I've got wood just thinking about it. I love me some "Naked Spike"

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 9:20 p.m. CST

    they killed Angel in it's prime

    by liljuniorbrown

    The ending sucked major league ass.While watching reruns i have come to the conclusion that those shows will never be given the credit they deserve,it was the best television i think i'll see in my lifetime and every time i loan out season one of Buffy to a friend or coworker who has never seen it , i end up having to loan out every set of Buffy and Angel i got.I'm telling you people,if you hate BUFFY OR ANGEL YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TV IS. I'm sorry but that show should have had more emmmy gold than west wing and my other favorite the sopranos combined.James Marsters is a fucking awesome actor and i would pay any amount to see him get to add something new to that charector even if it was in dinner theater. Give him a movie a series,fuck anything he wants.Anne mother fucking Rice could only dream of writting a vampire with the depth of Spike.

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 10:29 p.m. CST

    I thought I heard FAITH was possibly gonna have a show....

    by Johnny FilmMaker

    especially now that Tru Calling is cancelled. A Faith show would seriously kick ass. And watchin Eliza Dushku every week ona show by Whedon? well thats TV GOLD!

  • Jan. 28, 2005, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Grabthars_Hammer and Buffy

    by Bouncy X

    you do realize that Buffy ended because they wanted to right? sure Sarah wanting to leave probably didnt help, but you're talking as if the show was pulled off the air or even cancelled. There's a difference between a series ending and being cancelled...and Buffy ended. Now if you're one of those who just likes to bash whatever an article is talking about...well least pick on Angel because that show was cancelled and your "rants" would be more sense worthy.

  • Jan. 29, 2005, 2:07 a.m. CST

    that guy had to be playing dumb.

    by BRTick

    execs oftens dislike to talk about projects before the ink has dried on the contracts. thats what has to be going on here. he doesnt know if such a project is going to happen, so he doesnt want to put the cart before the donkey. if that isnt the case, that guy should be fired right away. fired, as in "fired from a cannon". nobody could really be that dumb.

  • Jan. 29, 2005, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Andrew = Jar Jar Binks

    by mrfan

    Annoying and useless as hell. I cannot believe people want this idiot to keep appearing in this universe. He was just one of the things that made Buffys seventh season not that good. And yes, I would love a new Whedonverse movie or series.

  • Jan. 29, 2005, 7:14 p.m. CST

    by Philo

    Ripper right. If only Wheadon & the BBC could have got their collective acts together this could have seen a great series. A Spike movie would keep the girls in my life happy though.

  • Jan. 29, 2005, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Letter to Herc: Shame on you and your short-term memory! David J

    by My2cents

    Every Network MAYBE has two (or at MAX three) programs that one would could consider as excellent programming. And EVERY Network Executive in "Hollywood" has to dig through and live with tons of muck to fill the other 22 hours of the day. But, before heading over to the WB, David Janollari was the executive producer who brought us TWO original, daring, and (some say) revolutionary programs to television: "American Family" and "Six Feet Under." Sure he's also had his share of easy fluff, but that's a necessity that pays and paves the way for the riskier things. I admit, I might be a smidge biased, since I was his Temp Executive Assistant for a short period, but I can tell you want I experienced. He was particularly and notably MOTIVATED to tell the stories that no one had seen before. He had his ear open for new talents and was ALWAYS looking for quality writing. I am a huge Buffy fan, and you can bet that if I was still working with him, he'd not only know about it, but he'd take my suggestions seriously. In addition, there were literally dozens of unique projects that could come to his desk each WEEK (not even mentioning all the formal meetings and pitches). He was diligent to review each and every one. I can only imagine how much bigger the potential project pile is now. Besides, can you REALLY blame him for focusing on the schedule and trying to clean up the mess he's been presented with? You SHOULD be excited about the fact that he's now fully aware of AND EXCITED about a POTENTIAL new movie that probably hasn't even been pitched to him in any official manner yet! It's highly possible, that now that it has been brought to his attention, it could be put on the fast track. You shouldn't be critical, you should be celebrating!

  • Jan. 31, 2005, 9:01 a.m. CST

    whoopy fucking doo

    by Calm_b4_the_Strm

    give the reason the last seasons of Buffy and Angel sucked his own show ??? Marster is like 50 now, apart from fucking up good shows he has yet to prove he is anything more than a good supporting actor and isnt even lick to fit Alexis Denisof's boots. No matter how much all these Spike fags piss and cry this isnt going to happen.

  • Feb. 1, 2005, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Bad Idea

    by cooper2000

    I want an Angel movie with all cast members not just SOME. If we havent had Spike thrown in our faces enough (oversaturation in Buffy season 6 and 7) and Angel (Didnt need him. I think this was done for all the teen girls that thought Spike was so cool and sexy (like the Fonz. Enough already!! I'd much rather see an Ilyria/Wesley movie. I am sure they can bring him back somehow.