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So What The Hell Was Borat Doing At That Rodeo, Anyway'!
Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
I can tell you this much... he was not shooting material for a new season of DA ALI G SHOW, despite what the Reuters news story claims.
See, I know people who know Borat. If you’ve seen his appearances on DA ALI G SHOW, then you know that Borat is an eager-to-please correspondent with his own show on Kazakhztan television. Right now, if I’m not mistaken, he’s actually making a documentary about America. I’m trying to track Borat down for an interview. I’ve been warned about his powerful personal funk, but I don’t care... I think this is a man with a message, and I’m going to do my best to bring you the first details of his upcoming movie right here on AICN in the weeks ahead. Now that he’s made headlines, I figured it was time to break the silence and start really digging into what just might be one of the year’s most important and hard-hitting documentary films.
No... seriously. You’ll see.
"Moriarty" out.
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"There is land of opportunities in US of A. For man, construction work, taxi driving and accountancy. For woman, as a prostitute."
Look forward to an interview with Sasha Baron Cohen - the man is a comic legend! -
I spilled all my Diet Coke over my keyboard
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FANTASTIC FANTASTIC FABULOUS he truly is a comic genius.
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In my country there is problem,
And that problem is transport.
It take very very long,
Because Kazakhstan is big.
Throw transport down the well (repeat line)
So my country can be free (repeat line)
We must make travel easy (repeat line)
Then we -
Oh to have been there.. truly funny stuff. A few more small tidbits on this story: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/01/14/1105582662131.html
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050113/325/fa7in.html
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Jan 14, 2005 8:28:41 AM CST
Throw the Jew down the well! So my country can be free! Throw th
by silver_joo
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My sister is prostitute...she is guud! Haiy Faiyve!!
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Best moment in his show was when he went for an interview and was asked what his previous job had been in his home country. "Gypsy catcher" he replied. The interviewer moved on without even raising an eyebrow.
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The irony about Cohen singing "Throw the Jew Down the Well" is that he's half Jewish.
Did you know Ali G was the commencement speaker for Harvard's graduating class? One of the most hilarious things I've ever read:
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How ironic is that? Cohen, you're a genius.
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WTF Is moriaty on about?
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This is old news. It was posted many different places on Wednesday. Is this what passes for a worthwhile post now? Moriarty puts a story up two days late just to try and ass kiss enough to get an interview?
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Jan 14, 2005 10:04:56 AM CST
I like how Borat has said much, much worse things but it's the "
by big bad clone
would get the death sentence
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Jan 14, 2005 10:06:51 AM CST
Another Left-Wing Coward Makes Another Anti-America / Anti-Bush
by jorson2
The Reuters article speculated that if Ali G. had not high-tailed it out of the rodeo, he may have been shot. If he really wanted to get a serious message across, he wouldn't have made jokes about it and he WOULD have risked getting shot over it. That's what REAL revolutionaries do when they REALLY want to get a message across. They put themselves in harm's way AND STAY THERE until the message gets across. You people love the Iraqis so much, then learn from them. They're getting shot or blown-up left and right (no pun intended). Had Ali been shot or even killed, maybe he could have been vindicated. Maybe this STEREOTYPE of the gun-toting, blood-thirsty right-wing Republican would have been legitimized and more people would start listening to people like him and Michael Moore. As it is, he looks like yet another left-wing coward that hates confrontation unless he's the one starting it, and then he's too good to stick around to take the response.
This isn't about who is factually right or wrong. This is about what someone is willing to do to make people listen. At least right-wing Republicans aren't afraid to go out on a limb and take ACTION, or at the very list take what they dish out. All the left can do is spew propaganda, then hide in the corner and cry about how stupid the right-wingers supposedly are and how nobody understands them. -
I know better than that. It's a stupid and inexcusable typo.
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HEY THERE YALL - YOU ALL DO NOT NEED TO BE MESSIN WITH MY USA!!!! YOU ALL CAN GO ON AND EAT SOME SHIT IF YOU THINK WE IS GONNA LET SOME COMMIE FREAK GIT AWAY WITH THAT SHIT AND LIVE TO TELL ABOUT IT!!! USA IS THE BESTEST COUNTRY IN A WORLD AND WE PROVE IT EVERY DAY BY THE WAY WE GIVE TO THOSE LAZY SONS OF BITCHES OVER IN THEM OTHER COUNTRIES THAT CAINT GIT OUT OF WATER...AND WHO ELSE IS GONNA SAVE THEM??? IT IS JUST US AND NO ONE ELSE CUZ THE REST OF YALL IS JUST DAMN LAZY AND UNABLE TO DO ANYTHING FOR ANYONE BUT YOU ALLS SELFS AND THEN NEED US TO GO AND KICK SOME ASS WHEN YOU NEED OIL AND NICE STUFF...I KNOW WE IS THE BEST PLACE IN THE WORLD BECAUSE JESUS LOVES US MORE THAN YOU AND JESUS TELLS US ALL THE TIME THROUGH ALL THEM NICE REVERENDS ON THE TV...AND JESUS DON
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I could go for a good old american bashing film.
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To the people that are so upset that this comedian made fun of the national anthem - relax it's just a song.
To the people that want to cancel HBO because of Ali G - is your remote broken? Too fat to get off your ass and change the channel? -
Yessir, yes indeedy. Except when someone says something that gun toting inbred retards don't like. THEN they're in danger of being shot! Yeah, that's REAL democracy all right. In the words of Bill Hicks "Go back to sleep America".
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I tried to watch his show and it was yawn-inducing. He's got one trick: dress up as someone and lie about who he is to get to do an interview. Yuk, yuk, yuk. There's funnier hidden-identity shit on old episodes of Punk'd, and that's not saying a lot because Punk'd sucks. You want humor on TV that lets you laugh at the embarrassment and dismay of others? Watch "Cheaters", instead. This guy doesn't humiliate his show subjects 1/100th as well as that show does.
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Some people just don't get irony. The "Throw the Jew Down the Well" performance was brilliant not because it was "shocking" or un-PC, or even because Cohen is ironocally Jewish. It was brilliant because everyone in that redneck fucking shitkicker bar was clapping and singing along. Cohen was exposing the red states for what they really are...a bunch of backwards, inbred, feeble-minded, racist, pig-eyed morons and bigots who believe in creationism and think that Iraq blew up the Empire State Bulding. The National Anthem thing was great as well. A bunch of sister-fucking hillbillies at a rodeo got punked. Fucking fabulous. And why would I give a shit if somebody massacres a song? Who gives a shit? How does that hurt anyone? Grow the fuck up already, you fucking flag-waving brown-shirts. It's called "FREEDOM OF SPEECH." Look it up sometime and find something REAL to get offended by. You're probably all the same retards who think that Randy Moss pretending to moon the fans at Lambeau field is the attrocity of the century. By the way, my favorite two Ali G momements are 1.) the one where he was talking to Pat Buchanan about the "BLT's" in Iraq and Buchanan just started playing along and saying "BLT's" right with him and 2.) When he's talking to Andy Rooney and Rooney keeps correcting his grammar, then when Rooney gets pissed and tries to end the interview, Ali starts accusing him of being "racialist." Fucking brilliant. Cohen is the heir to Andy Kaufmann.
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His mother is Jewish.
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but then I watched a few episodes and he's pretty funny. His movie sucked! The HBO show IS funny for the most part, with Borat being the hilight for me. That "throw the Jew down the well" shit had me howling. Especially when he had all the redneck fucks in the bar signing it along with him. Christ, this is the Apocalypse. Pick a side!!!
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It's not really about being patriotic or unpatriotic so much as it is being non-nationalistic... nationalism is just as dangerous as religious fundamentalism... if we can rid the world of both, we'll all be better off...
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Jan 14, 2005 12:12:50 PM CST
Ah, the good ole fashion American bashing thread. Thanks, AICN.
by jackburton2003
It's been a while since I've seen a thread on AICN where Harry and company let the self-hating Americans and those self-righteous "international citizens" spout about how EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL America is. Thanks, Harry and Moriarty. Americans need threads like this every once in a while to remind us that the majority of people who hates us out there are juvenile kids with (as recently quoted on "24") "sixth grade Michael Moore logic".
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Yep. And the flag is just cloth. Keep it up. Dean for DNC chair, all the way.
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We just can't be having satire round these parts, folks, no sireeeee bob.
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sense of humor = self hating American
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Exposing them for what they are? YOU just exposed yourself for the racist, close-minded, stereotyping angry little twat that you are. Good job, hypocrite.
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I am wanting to have the sex with you. Booyakasha!
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Jan 14, 2005 1:00:48 PM CST
Left Wing Cowards???? Such strong words form the Right Wing shee
by tedsallis
gimme me a break!
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There are large parts of US culture which richly deserve to be mocked. The rightwing shitsquelching cretins who have inflicted so much misery on the world then sing a nauseatingly hypocritical song about "freedom" while condoning torture murder and lifelong imprisonment without trial should be killed never mind laughed at. Bastard scum.
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That article just about made my day. Great stuff.
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He is supposed to be down the street from me at that country west redneck joint this weekend. if you are in the area and want to see that offensive song performed here is the address. The information that he will be there was provided by my drunken redneck neighbor that hangs out there.
Country West Dancing & Lounge
2660 W Ruthrauff Rd
Tucson, AZ 85705 - 1843
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gets rid of the Bill of Rights, Cohen can say what he wants. American, British, Chinese, whatever. This is the land of the free in case some of you Nazis forget that fact.
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I don't really understand what the hell this article even means so I won't debate about whatever this issue is here. But I was wondering who these republicans you're talking about are who have given their lives to prove small points. I can't think of any unless you're counting abortion doctor bombers.
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And I'll read mah bible after we get that darn critter
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Jan 14, 2005 3:09:43 PM CST
I Love My Counrty!!!......But the President is a KINIVING PIECE
by tedsallis
darhhh...didnt them iragi's blow up the Empire State Building?...duhhhhhhhh.
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Jan 14, 2005 3:21:04 PM CST
OH FOR GOD SAKES!!! WHY HAS EVERY AMERICAN MISSED THE POINT??!!
by j-dizzle
Sasha Cohen, aka Ali G, aka Borat, has never EVER TRIED TO BE POLITICAL!!!! HE HAS ALWAYS POKED FUN AT EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE, EVEN HIMSELF!!! It was never ever about politics! All it was about was good old fashioned humor. Perhaps if you guys had seen his stuff in England you wouldn't feel so bad! Jesus Christ, ever since the election happened America has forgotten what it is to be funny IN A NON-POLITICAL SENSE! Why has everyone just decided that joke = insult? People are always on the defensive, and forgotten what it is to be actually FUNNY! You know what the documentary is going to be about? You really want to know?! It's going to be about how Borat completely misunderstands everything and everyone! Heh heh, probably my all time favorite Borat interview was when he was in England interviewing anti-hunting protestors, Borat:"No, no, in Kazakstan we don't hunt fox........." Protestor:"very good - " Borat:"We hunt de bear, but we don't hunt de fox!" Protestor:"WHAT?!" Borat:"No, no, don't get angry. We don't hunt de fox!"
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I thought judaism was a religion? you either are a jew or you are not surely?
anyway...Borat was funny about 3 years ago but not anymore.
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in reality none of this left wing-right wing-english-american crap even applies. the dude just is not funny. it's "extreme" candid camera. what's his next trick? maybe he could slaughter a cow at a hindu wedding or try to serve cocktails at an AA meeting. what an unoriginal douchebag.
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A lot of people don't really seem to get what Baron Cohen is trying to do with Ali-G and Borat (and the gay fashion reporter) - that is to expose prejudices, tear people down and generally subvert the mainstream - it is purely a bonus that what he does is extremely funny (to most people) and even if it is not, alot of his work is still highly revealing and powerful, but those who are offended simply do not see this, and I suspect the message is lost on alot of fans also. No doubt much of what he does is done mainly for laughs, but to dismiss Cohen's actions as ignorant pranks and the antics of a mindless racist is just plain wrong and ignorant in itself. It's worth knowing that Cohen is a highly intelligent Cambridge educated scholar. He is about as far removed as possible from the chracters he creates and possesses more intelligence than most of the people he interviews! History will look back on Cohen in a far more positive light than any of you critics realise - and my guess is many of you will become converts yourself in years to come. He is ahead of his time in many respects, but as with all great comedians and genius' of the past, they are often looked upon with ridicule and disdain by many before being recognised for the true visionaries they are. That may sound a bit over the top, and perhaps it is, but you just wait and see...
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Because America can't laught at itself. Unlike most other nations around the world you guys just take yourselves and your "God given" place in the world way too friggin' seriously...
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"nationalism is just as dangerous as religious fundamentalism"
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fucking lamers lol
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Not even two weeks ago Quint made a joke in his article about homosexuals and muslims and ya'll bitched and cried so hard he had to take it off,now the same pussys are mad at the people who are crying over this sites support of that tired unoriginal ALI G shit.If the guy had any balls he would have stuck around and interviewed some of the people in the crowd.Here's my opinion on all this right wing left bull shit, if you all hate America so much just pull a Johnny Depp or Madonna and get the fuck out of here.It's funny every celebrity or even big business CEO'S who have media exposure are quick to critisize America for all it's mistakes and problems but just like Depp and now this HBO British Carrot Top wannabe they all come and gladly accept our "blood stained imperialistic" money. Fuck politics.
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Jan 14, 2005 6:08:03 PM CST
I don't even know what the fuck CONservatives are even doing on
by industrykiller
This site promotes art in all its forms, something conservatism tries to kill. Notice the lack of conservative artists out there? That's because the term conservative artist is practically an oxy-moron. Sure they are out there, but they are outnumbered a thousand fold by more talented and open minded liberal artists. You wonder why celebrities are all anti-bush? Why 99% of filmmakers hate your way of life? It's because of their open mindedness and compassion, two traits great people have and conservatives lack in spades. So if you don't like it here with our constant conservative bashing and anti-Bush films(completely justified as they are) then stay the fuck away. This place isn't for your kind.
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voicebox5 and all the others, all i can say is come back here and say this in 10 years time and see how what you're saying stands up to the test of time. I will see you here on January 15 2015...
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...with Todd Phillips directing. It's not a documentary. That's the "big secret" Moriarty is being coy about (and succeeding only in sounding lame).
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When I first saw Ali G, I thought he sucked. But I also thought Curb Your Enthusiasm sucked when I first saw it, and it's one of my fave shows now. So I kept watching Ali, and why some of his stuff is grating on the nerves, Borat is hi-fucking-larious.
In fact I wish he's ditch the art-fag and Ali persona and just do the Borat Show.
But of course there are some jingoists on here who miss the point of comedy, or for that matter the 1st amendment.
And once again I wonder why the right wing jackasses keep bitching, when they got their president and their senate and their house. Newsflash: Winners don't get to bitch, losers do. You don't want a recount, I don't hear the shit spewing out your mouth. I've moved on, now grow up, let you rtesticles descend, and quit being a bunch of douches. -
Jan 14, 2005 11:25:35 PM CST
My wife, she's booorrrriinnggg....Part Deux (with corrections)
by dr farragammo
(Why isn't there a edit function on this thing! Let's start over)
When I first saw Ali G, I thought he sucked. But I also thought Curb Your Enthusiasm sucked when I first saw it, and it's one of my fave shows now. So I kept watching Ali, and while some of his stuff is grating on the nerves, Borat is hi-fucking-larious. In fact I wish he'd ditch the art-fag and Ali persona and just do the Borat Show. But of course there are some jingoists on here who miss the point of comedy, or for that matter the 1st amendment. And once again I wonder why the right wing jackasses keep bitching, when they got their president and their senate and their house. Newsflash: Winners don't get to bitch, losers do. You don't want a recount, I don't want to hear the shit spewing out your mouth. I've moved on, now grow up, let your testicles descend, and quit being a bunch of douches. -
...please keep your moronic statements to yourself. You are clearly more narrow minded than the conservatives you hate and exhibit the same behavior you are complaining about. Get over yourself.
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As long as terrorists have Nationalism, so must we. Sorry.
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You need to look up on your Judaism, dude. Judaism is not like other religions, where you can join the community simply by expressing a wish to do so. It's very simple: if your mother is Jewish, you're Jewish. It also works the other way around: you're not Jewish unless you have a mother who is Jewish. Having a Jewish father does not count, since paternity can be disputed. The latter is a fact that drives many people with Jewish fathers and non-Jewish mothers to despair. They'd like to be recognized as Jews, but they're not accepted by the Jewish community because they don't have a Jewish mother. So Jews not only know what it is to be discriminated against by non-Jews; they discriminate against their own, as well.
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...for most modern, reform Jews that's an outdated concept. Only very conservative interpretations retain that idea: "Reform's position is that the same requirements must be applied to establish the status of the child of a mixed (interfaith) marriage, regardless of whether the mother or the father is Jewish. Therefore, in 1983, the CCAR issued the following resolution:
The Central Conference of American Rabbis declares that the child of one Jewish parent is under the presumption of Jewish descent. This presumption of the Jewish status of the offspring of any mixed marriage is to be established through appropriate and timely public and formal acts of identification with the Jewish faith and people. The performance of these mitzvot serves to commit those who participate in them, both parent and child, to Jewish life." ...... (from http://www.shamash.org/lists/scj-faq/HTML/faq/18-index.html)
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Jan 15, 2005 7:02:56 AM CST
...and AICN continues to uphold it's widely known reputation as
by swarmy
You do Michael Moore proud!
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I'm glad to hear it. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be true everywhere. I know several European half-Jews who would love to be recognized by the Jewish communities of their respective countries but aren't because it's their fathers who are Jewish rather than their mothers. They've tried to convince the Jewish communities that the maternity issue is outdated, only to be told that rules are rules and that it has always been like that. One guy I know feels very negative about Judaism because of all this. He loves Jewish traditions and feels very much that he's part of them, but the fact that he isn't recognized by "real" Jews sits very badly with him.
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Someone made fun of the National Anthem! My sense of nationalism is so tightly strung that I can't handle it when someone makes even an implied criticism. Waaaaah!
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Jan 15, 2005 11:51:57 PM CST
Subversive01057, "I can't handle it when someone makes even an i
by immortal_fish
Please advise what was "implied"
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Jan 16, 2005 12:07:22 AM CST
Dr Farragammo, "I've moved on, now grow up, let you rtesticles d
by immortal_fish
Perhaps you have. And yet, perhaps you might agree that many of your peers have not. Perhaps you may browse the content of this and other TBs. Clinton's take in 1992 was 43%. He had a mandate. Clinton's take in 1996 was 49%. He had a mandate. Bush's take in 2004 was 51%. And yet (likely) you and others expect us to believe he *DOES NOT* have a mandate. Odd for folks who have 'moved on', yes?
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Jan 16, 2005 12:17:53 AM CST
IndustryKiller, "This site promotes art in all its forms, someth
by immortal_fish
Indeed. Please explain 'The Passion' then, or anything else of its ilk. It was not art by your definition, yet I would fail to define it as anything else. -- "This place isn't for your kind." Yet another telling pearl of wisdom from the party of tolerance.
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Jan 17, 2005 2:42:25 AM CST
At least up until now, the greatest number of complaints about B
by shan
The most number of complaints were from the Kazakh embassy in the UK as far as we had heard until now.
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While I can't necessarily condone people who move out of America and continue to criticize it, I CAN say I believe anyone who has a sense of pride in what America has accomplished in this world has EVERY right to complain about the mistakes and problems we have... these things can be corrected, but unfortunately we obviously have a very deep rift between what we believe should be done and what would be right... but obviously both sides should be able to try to cling to some small shred of objectivity enough so that they can see that people who complain about America do not "hate" it... they merely wish it to live up to the promise of its past...
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Jan 17, 2005 11:23:45 AM CST
I know it's not a popular concept, but I think Industry Killer d
by super person
I think there are FEWER conservatives doing creative art than there are liberals... I don't presume to know why this is, but even the conservatives acknowledge this when they talk about "the liberals in Hollywood" or the "Hollywood liberal elite" we always hear about that banded behind Clinton and later Kerry... I myself play in some five or six bands here in Houston, and know MANY more, and of all of those, the liberals outnumber conservatives by at least a factor of ten... even "The Passion of the Christ" was really a retelling of an already established story, so it can't really be called "creative art" like a more original story might be... of course, I know, in Hollywood there are DANGEROUSLY few original stories left, so let's say old ideas in creative dressing? New ways of telling old stories? I don't know, anyway, my point basically is that for whatever reason, I do believe the Left has more of the creative minds... again, some of you jumped on IK for saying that, but I think it was because of two major reasons: (1) there is the concept that there are NO creative artists on the Right, and that's not what I'm saying... I'm saying there are, but they are outnumbered significantly by those on the Left... and (2) there was a presumption of there being some REASON for why there are more creative artists on the Left than the Right... I myself would say I know of no such reason... I'm not judging anyone who calls him/herself "conservative" to automatically be uncreative, I'm simply saying there seem to be, statistically and from my own experience, fewer creative conservative than creative liberal artists... just my opinion...
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