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So, it seems that the yummy-yummy Kate Bosworth is indeed SUPERMAN's main squeeze!!!

Published at:  Jan 06, 2005 2:00:17 PM CST

Hey folks, Harry here... My take on this? Well, Kate is the dead ringer for Lois' lil sister that dated Jimmy Olsen as is... but, you put her with black hair, in a yummy female reporter outfit with the coat and the mid-thigh business dress, the pillbox hat, red lipstick and a notepad and a pencil and she's the spitting image of Curt Swan's chipmunk cheeked Lois. But then, that's my take...




Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Sorry I'm a little late on this, but for some reason when the reports started coming in that Kate Bosworth was playing Lois Lane in Bryan Singer's SUPERMAN I didn't believe them. I have a few sources close to the production and hadn't heard a peep out of them about Ms. Lane being cast or even in the process of casting. So, it took Harry demanding I update with this story at this morning's screening of ASSAULT ON PRECINT 13 (don't believe the trailer, this movie is fuckin' hardcore and gritty and badass... everything you could want out of a film like this). If the BBC is reporting it, I suppose it's legit.



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I'm trying to get used to this casting. I don't think it's bad in any way. I said in my BLUE CRUSH review that Kate Bosworth will be a big name in the near future. She has the charisma, the beauty and the talent. I'm more tied down to the original Donner films where Lois looked like a prettier than average woman, not the godlike beauty of Ms. Bosworth. It's also an age thing. Singer seems to like to cast his superhero movies very young. It's not a bad thing, just something that'll take me a little while to get used to.



I've had the pleasure of meeting Ms. Bosworth a few times and she is a total sweetheart and I wish her the best. Just remember what happened to Margot Kidder!!! Stay away from drugs, booze and dumpsters! You have very pretty teeth and I don't want you to break them off at the gumline!



Anyway, it looks like this is really happening this time out and I, for one, am glad that Singer and his team are leading the way. X2 is still one of the best comic book movies ever made and DC could sure use that particular respectful magic. What do you folks think?







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  • Jan 06, 2005 2:03:12 PM CST

    A young, beautiful cast...

    by bigtuna

    I want to vomit. And Margot Kidder was never prettier then average. She was very much average. Kate does seem a little young though.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 2:03:41 PM CST

    kate bosworth is hot

    by toe jam

    will they keep her blonde or make her hair brunette? personally, i think it should be blonde, even though lois lane has traditionally been raven-haired. if both kent clark and lois lane have dark hair, it will be like "hulk" and somewhat depressing. the rules of moviedom mandate that at least one of your leads should be a stunningly attractive blonde. then again, maybe i'm just biased because i love blondes.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 2:04:25 PM CST

    Meh

    by roguescribner

    They couldn't find anyone better than the BLUE CRUSH girl? *sigh*

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  • Jan 06, 2005 2:08:36 PM CST

    Why apoligize for being late on this???

    by dsb1369

    You guys are late on everything.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 2:11:00 PM CST

    Kate Bosworth is too young.

    by steal_dragon

    She is 22 years old. Lois Lane is 30.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 2:17:55 PM CST

    Quint, you think we care about this bullshit when you tell us yo

    by cash bailey

    Priorities, man.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 2:31:35 PM CST

    Singer's take will probably be wildly successful

    by jaguart

    In spite of the Muppet Babies casting.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 2:41:23 PM CST

    Eh...

    by gheorghe zamfir

    Not sure how Singer plans on making this a continuation, or relation, or whatever it is he's doing, of Superman 1 & 2 when he's casting so young. At 22 it'll be tough to buy Bosworth as being a major reporter for a large city newspaper, though I'm sure Singer is smart enough to know that so she of course won't be a major reporter, so I just have no idea where they're going. Guess I'll have to wait and see.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 2:47:23 PM CST

    Fuck Singer!

    by junior frenger

    Traitor...Sell Out... you deserve nothing less than genital warts on the anus Mr. Singer. 'sigh' I'm just mad that the future of the X films hangs in the balance.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 2:49:59 PM CST

    Spacey is in

    by silenttype

    I know he was in the old Tim Burton version but Ive heard that Kevin Spacey is indeed playing Lex Luthor. Im just tellin ya what I heard (and I heard it from the same place that I heard the Bosworth news from, so it has a BIT of cred)

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:00:39 PM CST

    Horrible choice...

    by lost skeleton

    the chick from Lost should be Lois Lane...Hell, it probably would have been better if Beyonce was in it. Bosworth is just too young!

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:01:57 PM CST

    suddenly Margot Kidder was good casting?

    by cory849

    Make my Lois a hottie!

    Oh wait, I forgot. I dont care if this movie gets made. Lois can be Rosie O,Donnell for all I care. Sorry. My bad.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:04:20 PM CST

    oh, for Christ's sake - Lois Lane is the least important casting

    by tv casualty

    really, anyone decent actress can fill the role. It's one of the easier. Let's not start kicking each other's dicks over this one. Bosworth is fine. She's young, pretty, decent actress, plucky. She'll do well. There's no one born for this role.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:07:26 PM CST

    Margot Kidder... Prettier Than Average?

    by therealmoriarty

    Hey, I like the Donner films as much as the next guy, but even at the age of eight, I wondered why Superman didn't have a good-looking girlfriend. "He likes her? Really? Maybe on Krypton, skinny and ugly is what they consider hot." Margot Kidder was never, in any way, prettier than average. Wrong side of the demarcation line there, Quint.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:10:09 PM CST

    Margot Kidder was VERY LUCKY to get cast in Superman....

    by doom ii

    She was known as quite the Hollywood whore in the 70's. She really isn't a great actress at all. But I've heard and read (Easy Riders, Raging Bulls)she can party like a rock star, so that's a plus. I would bet Richard Donner shagged her back in the day. Many directors did.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:19:47 PM CST

    this may not be the best idea

    by willybones

    First of all, I really have to disagree with the comment that x-men 2 was the one of the greatest comic-book film adaptations of all time. I think that any director would have struggled with the material--the x-men universe is so vast, so incredibly dense, that character backgrounds and plot points must have been a bitch to put up on screen in two hours. given that, it should have been put in the hands of a far more competent director. singer simply is not the man for huge projects. i am sure that if he had a bigger budget on the usual supspects, it would have blown.
    i agree that kate bosworth is too young for the role of lane. in fact completely totally miscast would be more appropriate. i recently started watching smallville, and their version of lane is far more the lois we all love. kent is a dork (bill had it right) and lois takes pleasure in emasculating him because she is attracted to him, but really just as insecure as he is, thats why they had chemistry, not because they were super-hot 20-somethings with thumping hormones.
    i will definitely be keeping up to date with singer's superman, but so far, i dont think that i will be please.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:23:35 PM CST

    Wrong, wrong, wrong

    by tarontine

    I am sure that she is very talented, but she is far too sweet and pretty for Lois Lane. You need the right energy for Lois Lane. Margot Kidder had the right spunk. The girl playing Lois on Smallville has the right quality. On that less-than-stellar, but fun Flash tv show - the three-time guest star Joyce Hyser as Megan Lockhart has the right energy- whereas Amanda Pays, the show lead would be a bad Lois Lane. Brunette and pretty - sure. But that hard-nosed reporter? ... nope. I thought most of the auditioned choices were bad... the girl from Lost, the girl from the O.C., Claire Daines - none of them are tough with a savvy charm. Lois Lane needs a special spark. That's a letdown. But who knows... I thought that Kirsten Dunst was a poor choice for Mary Jane. I still think that... she is not the comic book Mary Jane at all, BUT she is so solid and has such great chemistry with Tobey Maguire that I can't see anybody else play it but her now.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:24:23 PM CST

    Which Lex?

    by wormie

    It seems odd that the actors playing Supes and Lois in the movie are younger than those playing the young versions of the same characters on Smallville, especially considering this is a sequel to Superman I & II (therefore Lois, at least, should appear to be in her 30s).

    With the first two Chris Reeve flicks as a "vague history", will Lex Luthor be a funny but deadly criminal genius (ala Gene Hackman), or the evil billionaire version as seen in the post-Crisis comics, as well as Lois & Clark and Smallville?

    And Singer said Supes returns to Earth in this movie after leaving due to the devastation caused during the fight with Zod and his crew, but at the end of Superman II, Supes tells the President he won't let the world down again, so why would he leave???

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:27:23 PM CST

    If Spacey is Lex...

    by stlfilmwire

    He better be hard as nails and bald. If not, kiss this Superman goodbye. I'd rather see Stanley Tucci as Lex... oh well.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:28:57 PM CST

    BOSWELL IS WRONG FOR LOIS...

    by stlfilmwire

    I have lost all interest. Nothing against her... just very poor casting.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:33:37 PM CST

    Just Saw Bosworth as the Catatonic Sandra Dee

    by cookylamoo

    Not very impressed. She looks like Margot Hemmingway's understudy, but twice as dead.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:49:03 PM CST

    What the fuck are you talking about, Nicole21?

    by kintar0

    "X-2 was good but Singer is no genius and this could very well be another disaster in the Batman and Robin or Alexander vein." Talk about a statement with zero evidence to support it. How is this Superman film comparable to Alexander? Let me let you in on a little secret: there are no geniuses working in Hollywood. Stephen Hawking was a genius. As good as Kubrick ever was, he wasn't a genius. Look up "genius" in the dictionary."I will never pay to see this trainwreck waiting to happen especially if it has a political agenda as many on both sides of the aisle are reporting." Huh? Who the fuck has said anything about Singer's Superman having any political bias? I think this is only happening in your obtuse head. And what aisle? Is Congress providing movie news all of a sudden? You WOULD be excited to hear Cavizel is playing Superman. Routh's a major letdown to you? You've never even heard of him! You think Nicolas fucking Cage would have been a better Superman? Do you smoke crack? "I don't believe Hollywood as it exists currently understands how to make an apolitical movie about truth, justice and the American way." You fucking nitwit, this movie will be about Superman, not some "red-state" political ideal. Which do you want, apolitical, or friendly to the "red-staters?" Have you ever had ONE valid thought in that retarded, deluded head of yours? And where's JDanielP with his lame ideas and pathetic whining about why he can't get a break?

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  • She is a good actress (although thick as shit, see some of her interviews) but there is no way in hell she is a good choice for Lois. So far two (lead) casting decisions that have left me fucking frozen. And to the guy before who said he liked Dunst as MJ I have to disagree with you buddy, IMO easily the weakest link of the franchise.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 3:53:27 PM CST

    You're right, naysayers. She is too young..

    by melian

    I'm sure she'a a lovely girl and very talented. I just can't see her as Lois Lane.

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  • Well i lied, i do have small problem. Her hair color, but then she could just let it grow out to her natural color. i doubt she's a natural blonde, so not much of a problem.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 4:08:16 PM CST

    WTF?

    by kintar0

    What does that even mean, Nicole21? You've got nothing. You don't even try to defend your post. So much for those critical thinking skills. Do you even know who Mr. Miracle is?

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  • Jan 06, 2005 4:28:07 PM CST

    As long as she dosn't broadcast her thoughts to the audience wh

    by archduke_chocula

    When I saw Superman in the theatre last month and that part happened, man in the many times I viewed it before I never remembered that part ever happeneing, what a bad choice to leave that in.

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  • wtf were you smoking when you wrote that? she seemed older and gave off a skanky, salty-tongued demeanour ----im not trying to be rude but thats what we saw in the films - by 'superman iii' you could see in her 3 minute cameo that she was *way* too wrong for the lois lane part --- its not just a question of looks, she seemed older, more cynical, less classier than chris reeve

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  • Jan 06, 2005 4:34:03 PM CST

    YOU MEAN BEYONCEE IS NOT LOIS LANE?!!!

    by spacesheik

  • Jan 06, 2005 4:34:33 PM CST

    Mr.Miracle...

    by morgoth

    ...Nicole21 is just one of the new crop of "political trollers" on this site (like Bushsux, for example)who can't make a post without picking a political fight. Just ignore her bait and let it go. Trust me, it's not worth it. ** Oh good grief people...I remember these same debates during the Lord of the Rings casting about Elijah Wood being to young to play Frodo. C'mon, this will be another in a long line (I'm sure) of Superman comic adaptations. Don't be so literal minded. I'm sure Kate will do fine and I hope she is a raven tressed Lois Lane. Rrrr....mmmm...and other scrumptious noise type sounds.

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  • Fans were horrified by Burton's plans for Superman! Translucent suit, Lexiac, razor S-shield that doubles as a set of fighting knives, no flying, etc...the only people looking forward to it were the hardcore Burtonites who didn't give two figs about the comic book. And the casting of Cage (which Burton objected to, because he wanted Ralph Fiennes according to legend) was by far one of the most controversial decisions Jon Peters made on the project. Burton's Superman would only have had the name in common with the comic book, and I can tell you from experience, the fans did NOT want to see his take. At all. As for Singer/Routh/Bosworth/following up from SUPERMAN II...we know very little about the project beyond the few details given. As such, we can't call this a disappointment yet until we get something more solid. So hold your horses.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 4:40:34 PM CST

    I was pulling for Brian Bosworth.

    by rev_skarekroe

  • Jan 06, 2005 4:42:39 PM CST

    Quint, take off your beer goggles when watching Superman

    by bigtuna

    Kidder is nasty. He always had those big, horrible dentures.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 4:49:31 PM CST

    Singer casts superhero movies young?

    by minderbinder

    Jackman is 36. Berry is 38. Janssen and Cumming are 39. Marsden and Romajn are over 30. Not to mention Cox, McKellen or Patrick Stewart. How does having a couple young characters mean he "cassts young"?

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  • Jan 06, 2005 4:56:35 PM CST

    Ladies and Gentelmen

    by jack ryder

    Forget ace reporter Lois Lane and Welcome Newsroom intern Lois Lane.
    What's the point of not doing a Smallville movie when your stars are younger than the Smallville stars?
    Even the most casual moviegoer will see that problem.
    I guess they weren't really expecting any chemistry between Clark and Lois, So why bother.
    Remember when it took some getting used to to accept Cain and Hatcher as old enough?

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  • Jan 06, 2005 4:57:24 PM CST

    Re: Margot Kidder

    by jaguart

    She wasn't that bad, but I admit too that I wondered why Superman's squeeze wasn't hotter back in 1978. She had an urban, city girl/ trench reporter quality that contrasted nicely against Clark's naivete. Besides, it was pretty hard to find a woman that was prettier than Chris Reeves. At least they casted ADULTS in movies back then.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 5:06:41 PM CST

    Too bad WB didn't have this initiative back when Shylaman wanted

    by gheorghe zamfir

    Shylaman basically wanted the creative control the WB is giving Singer, but the WB is too wrapped up in pushing its own Supes script back then. Too bad. Whatever happened to that Michael Mann superhero flick that was in the works by the way?

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  • Jan 06, 2005 5:10:57 PM CST

    What's the status on the Talkback order fix for 2005?

    by jaguart

    An edit button would be nice to correct typos and misspells.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 5:18:32 PM CST

    Thank God

    by bart of darkness

    it wasn't (non-)actress Beyonce. Still the current casting leads me to suspect that the story concerns Lex Luthor developing a "reverse-aging" ray through which he plans to to rule the world by making eveyone who opposes him into a baby (easier to steal candy from etc.). And Margot Kidder was the best Lois of 'em all IMHO. The chemistry between her and Superman is wonderful on screen. Ah for the days of characterization not shallow eye candy.

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  • "C'mon smallville, shake what your mother gave you!" I think I'll pass on this new Superman incarnation.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 5:40:15 PM CST

    Superman-V.com

    by batgirl

    Yeah, so S-V is the site to break this news... Where's the credit to them?

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  • Why the fuck cast two 20ish actors with .5% exposure between them, when you could have gone with people who've already built a following among the 12-17 year olds, like Welling. Stupid,stupid,stupid...

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  • Jan 06, 2005 6:04:51 PM CST

    BEYONCE AS LOIS LANE:

    by rylrci

    LOIS: Sugah, (she snaps her fingas), my boo Supa-man is gon get you. Best believe!

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  • Jan 06, 2005 6:08:56 PM CST

    wtf!

    by jpdill

    They're too young. Fucking Singer's ruining it all.

    Remember folks that this is meant to be a sequel to the 4 previous films and also one which works well with Smallville.

    This won't work. WHY O WHY CAN'T SINGER CAST WELLING?

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  • Jan 06, 2005 6:10:15 PM CST

    lol

    by jpdill

    "LOIS: Sugah, (she snaps her fingas), my boo Supa-man is gon get you. Best believe!"

    That would be better casting than this shit. It'd be different at least.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 6:14:28 PM CST

    Why not Welling?

    by kintar0

    Because Tom Welling fucking sucks. Which is an extension of the fact that Smallville fucking sucks. Smallville is awful, as is everything associated with Smallville. Except for Jeph Loeb. Welling would make an awful Superman. And he has the audacity to suggest he doesn't want to be known as Superman. That's why he did Cheaper By The Dozen. How many years has he been doing Smallville?

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  • Jan 06, 2005 6:17:04 PM CST

    oh, great, another pixie-like, forgettable "it" girl.

    by bamf

    boooooooring!

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  • Jan 06, 2005 6:17:47 PM CST

    Harry's take

    by kintar0

    "...you put her with black hair, in a yummy female reporter outfit with the coat and the mid-thigh business dress, the pillbox hat, red lipstick and a notepad and a pencil..." There's no way in a billion years Lois'll be dressed like that in Singer's Superman. There's. Just. No. Way.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 6:41:05 PM CST

    Oh Nicole

    by burlivesleftnut

    Do everyone a favor, and throw your Superman DVD away. Christopher Reeve would have hated you. I bet if he had the motor skills, he would have shoved the bad end of his colonoscopy bag down your throat and squeezed. Just shut up, you ridiculously retarded moron.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 7:16:37 PM CST

    NO! MIA KIRSHNER, Damnit!!

    by theaflacduck

    This is a travesty! a TRAVESTY!! *sigh*

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  • Jan 06, 2005 7:40:27 PM CST

    One mans skank is another mans hottie...

    by anlashok

    I loved Margot Kidder as Lois Lane, I thought she was great. I watched Amityville Horror again not too long ago and realized I'd give her a couple of rounds in the sack as well, at least back then, anyways.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 8:01:10 PM CST

    Margo Kidder, prettier than average??

    by bootskin

  • Jan 06, 2005 9:32:07 PM CST

    Is Superman V a time-travel story?

    by ivan_mtl

    Like many of my fellow posters, I am not exactly thrilled about the casting decisions thus far. Don't get me wrong, they are both probably fine actors, but I do agree that they seem to be a little too young for their respective roles. Since I don't necessarily believe that Bryan Singer always casts young (a previous poster mentioned the ages of the X-Men/X-Men 2 cast), is it possible that this Superman movie will be a time-travel story? If he is truly going to respect the Donner films and adhere to their continuity, maybe that is the case. We did see Superman reverse time in the original film, so maybe that will explain his disappearance and subsequent rejuvenation in the new film? I will say that, while I am not a huge fan of Smallville, I do think that they missed the boat by not casting Tom Welling and Michael Rosenbaum in the roles. I'm willing to bet that the late Christopher Reeves would feel the same way.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 9:34:32 PM CST

    Bosworth could be ok, still not sold on Routh though...

    by triumph poops!

    Ever since they announced him, people have put up stills of him online from his previous (minor level) work and frankly he still only minorly fits the bill. There's still something about the shape of his face that isn't quite there -- let's face it, Donner was right when he once declared finding Chris Reeve was a gift from God since he was DEAD ON PERFECT. Just the same, I hope Routh is already in a gym because in every still I've seen of him he has the body type of the guy who got sand kicked in his face at the beach in those old muscle ads!

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  • Jan 06, 2005 10:12:27 PM CST

    Casting Kate

    by el teacher

    I have to agree with the nay-sayers...Kate B. is way too young and I cant picture her as a fiesty brunette. I think the girl from Lost would be very good but has anyone given a thought about how perfect Courtney Cox would be in the role of Lois Lane, since she played a perfect "go-get-em" reporter in the Scream Trilogy. Plus, she sort of resembles Margo Kidder if you think about it. Just my thoughts.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 10:18:52 PM CST

    Short Comedy Film

    by jonnash

    More anyone who's interested, check out my short comedy film, HEADTRIP, at:

    http://www.mymoviefest.com/movies/740.html

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  • Jan 06, 2005 11:05:15 PM CST

    Pill box hat? Dude, get off her dick...remember this ain't the 6

    by monkey_king

    Sheesh! Just glad they are making progress with the casting on this film and not the retarded-as-all-Hell casting of the doomed Catwoman movie. Shame on you Warner Bros. Shame on you for Catwoman, shame on you for letting the Batman films go to ruin(and many gay jokes),shame on you for the last 2 Supes films and shame on you for STEEL. Cooler heads had best prevail this next decade or DC/Time Warner is doomed to repeat itself. Now go cast Rhona Mitra as Wonder Woman already and keep up the current good work(Batman Begins looks killer so far). Monkey out.....

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  • Jan 06, 2005 11:07:17 PM CST

    Yahoo! News confirming Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor

    by logo lou

    That's okay... I guess.

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  • Jan 06, 2005 11:29:57 PM CST

    Okay, this talkback is getting ridiculous

    by harrisonsdad

    So, we've got a couple of younger people in the roles. No big deal. In my humble opinion, it's much easier to make young people look old than vice versa. If they really plan on making a few films out of this, by the time the third pic is produced, the actors will be at a nice age and still look right for the part. Films take a little longer to get made now. Maybe Singer is looking to the future. Give KB brown hair and the right wardrobe and she'll look the part. Let's not worry about how they look, let's have a wait and see attitude about whether or not the story is any good, if the production values are passable, see if these youngsters can act. See if Singer can weave his magic on another comic book project. The naysayers on this site have a good thing going. Because there are more flops than there are successes, if you say everything is going to flop, your (internet) street cred goes up. 'Nuff said.

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  • Try to focus in on what he looked like again, because that's a definite preview of what he's going to look like as Lex Luthor. Oh, and I'm curious as to how the chemistry is going to be between Brandon Routh (a very pretty, very gay young man - how Singeresque) and Kate Bosworth. I guess they'll be able to dish about what guys they've both had sex with in Hollywood and compare notes. "Oh, did you get a pedicure today, sweetie?" "Why yes I did, Katie-poo! Aren't my toes just gorgeous!!!"

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  • Jan 07, 2005 12:17:59 AM CST

    Couldn't they cast anyone with black hair?

    by spectrebeeyatch

    Maybe blonde isn't even her real hair color but I would think there are a number of great actresses with dark hair for the role. Also Routh looks funny for the part, Spacey will probably be amazing

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  • I'm just pissed that I never got a break at work, today.

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  • For example, I consider Tim Burton to be a genius. An artistic genius. His artistry is certainly a unique, individual talent. I don't, however, consider him to be a masterful filmmaker, though his genius always shines through. (He is, however, a GOOD filmmaker.) -- And Mr. Miracle, when are you going to stop doggin' me, dude? (Blushing) You little ass-grabber, you.

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  • I once, years ago, ... in '89 or '90 ... began writing a screenplay titled "Under the Wing of Batman" (a sequel to Burton's original "BATMAN") ... in hopes of printing copies for Warner Bros. executives, complete with costume conceptual designs ... which, most importantly, would include a bullet-proof "training suit" for Batman's new sidekick, Robin. And, of course, young Robin's bulky, protective suit would be in muted tones of the character's well-known vibrant colors (similar to the colors of the Robin costume from "BATMAN FOREVER", but without the shine). Anyway, in this screenplay, I had the PERFECT way to bring back the Joker ... in a believable way, even. That is, believable within the confines of the fantastic reality the original film (and characters) are based. -- (Stay with me, now.) Somewhere in this house, where I currently live, I have a video tape in which I re-recorded the ending of "BATMAN" where my screenplay would have begun ... and mixed it (using audio-dub from my VHS video camera) with the "suicide run" music of "DANCES WITH WOLVES" ... knowing with my gut-instinct that THAT music had the feeling of movement and pacing that I was looking for ... to help me further illustrate what happened with the Joker. My very first try, after getting the projected timing (of the music) just right with several practice runs and the aid of a stop-watch, I perfectly blended the music to the video. (The music changes on cue with the Joker getting tied up and then with his fall.) -- If you want to try it, I remember the music starting on the word "first" ... when Batman says, "I made you ... but you made me (CUE MUSIC!)" -- "THIS IS HOW THE MOVIE WOULD BEGIN: (Batman)"Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?" And so ... the scene plays out with new editing, with NEW footage added of three unfamiliar people in the familiar Joker jackets, on a neighboring rooftop. I imagined, back then, Anthony Hopkins as "Cameron", the group leader. You see, Cameron is watching the scene with binoculars ... while having his primitive looking (Tim Burton style) jet-pack repeatedly yanked by the "lawn mower cord" in failed attempt after failed attempt to get it started. (It even sounds like false starts of a lawn mower.) To cut to the chase ... the timing of the scene would have the jet-pack started and Cameron making it to the Joker (with slow motion) as they fall. With the weight of the "stone Gargoyle", Cameron hits the thrusters at maximum blast ... and as they near the ground, Cameron slices the Bat-rope with one swipe, with a blade which jets out from his sleeve. The stone falls without them, making the impression in the street below. But the sudden loss of weight with the thrusters on high, Cameron looses his grip on his ol' grade school chum. Cameron grabs at the severed Bat-rope. But combined with his now out of control flight, the rope slips ... and the Joker falls some thirty feet .. right into the gargoyle made impression. (There would have been a scene transition from Cameron's p.o.v. of the Joker below ... blending into his p.o.v. of a prison guard below, whom he had just sent over the railing to his death, to the bottom floor at Stonegate Prison.) Turns out the Joker had been staying at Arkham ... and he's almost mastered walking again, thinner, with his white dermatitis showing some effects over time. -- Whew, I'll stop there. Now that all THAT is over, here's my idea: How about Warner Bros. make it as a video game? "UNDER THE WING OF BATMAN" would be a game where you would NEVER play as Batman. (Oh, no. We're not THAT good.) No. We have it better in that we actually get to witness the Dark Knight in action. The player controlled characters would be characters like the young Robin (We learn skills as he does!), Alfred, Commissioner Gordon, a policeman, a prison guard, and an innocent bystander. And how cool would it be to have all those original voices (even Jack!), as a legit sequel to "BATMAN"??? -- What do ya think? -- Oh, and by the way, ... "Cameron" eventually becomes the Killer Moth.

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  • Jan 07, 2005 6:43:24 AM CST

    You retards wouldn't know crap if you stepped in it...

    by theginger twit

    Truth justice and the american way? Nicole21... do you want a film where Superman destroys something, blames Lex Luthor and then goes and fucks him up?

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  • Jan 07, 2005 6:51:05 AM CST

    Hey Mori, bud...

    by theginger twit

    Margot kidder had something. i dont know what it was, but she had it, donner saw it, and so did superman... and damnit, so did I. and thats what this is all about. I must say, I'm getting nervous about this film. For one thing, the dude playing superman. Fucking no! Now this chick playing loise.... she'd be better off playing the whip in the next indianna jones. I'm really starting to hate the direction of this film. Here's why. Singer is bringing us a continuation of thew donner films, only it's being brought to us in an all new re-telling. Think about this strange mind boggling contradiction. It just feels like there's a big fuck up coming our way. And it all seems to stem from the desire to bring back williams for the score. I say fuck this. I say take the original film, the original source material, and remake it for today - new score, new look characters. All or nothing! This is SUPERMAN fuckers

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  • Jan 07, 2005 8:32:50 AM CST

    I love Superman..........

    by liljuniorbrown

    If they make Luther a bumbling comic guy with a bad wig and Ned Beatty following him around I will never pay to see anything else B S directs. It's not looking good folks, you want continuity don't hire a Superman that looks ten years younger than Reeves just cause he gives you a boner,hell atleast Brendon Fraiser could have been a tall muscular Superman.I guess i should be glad it's not Paul Walker or Ashton Kutcher or that goof ball Josh Halfass Hartnett. And about the "RED STATES" posts,leave the politcs out of here,i'm sick of it.Apparently most of Americans are of "red states" or else the guy wouldn't have won.Lets all move on with our lives,or in some cases make a new years resolution and get one,i'm talking to you "Batman under my Wing" guy,that sounds like a Lifetime movie.

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  • Something about that performance turned me off. I don't look at her the same. I don't know why. Her casting is eh, I would have probably went with Rachel McAdams, but what do I know, I'm not a Hollywood Mogul. And it sure as hell beats Beyonce.

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  • Jan 07, 2005 9:21:36 AM CST

    Just as long as they dye her hair brunette...

    by kid z

    ... she's a great choice, beautiful, talented, hot, and seemingly a really nice person... however, Lois should NOT be a blonde!

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  • Jan 07, 2005 9:28:11 AM CST

    Red States, Blue States...

    by kid z

    ... I'm sick of it all too. Of course there are more red states than blue, that's why "Dumb-ya" gets away with claiming a mandate. What he doesn't say is most of the red states have low populations compared to blue states and that he only won by 2 percentage points! Why do more people prefer to live in the blue states as opposed to "the flyover"? Perhaps folks just prefer to live in places with better educational and employment opportunities, more social services, better infrastructures, and hell, even better nightlife. It's just obvious, really... and that's the last I have to say about it!

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  • Jan 07, 2005 9:49:26 AM CST

    "Apparently most of Americans are of 'red states' or else the gu

    by voice o. reason

    Did you know John Kerry got almost 3 million votes in Texas? The number of votes a state gets in the electoral college isn't based on population. Hence, Al Gore lost in 2000 despite winning the popular vote. The number of Electoral College votes given to each State equals the number of Representatives and Senators that each State sends to Congress. Every state has at least 3 Electoral College votes, because each State gets two Senators and at least one Representative. The District of Columbia has three electoral votes because the 23rd Amendment granted it the same number of votes as the least populated State. In other words, not all states are represented according to their population.

    Wyoming is guaranteed 3 votes for President, while California gets almost 19 times Wyoming

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  • Jan 07, 2005 9:59:15 AM CST

    This is prolly because she has two different colored eyes...

    by anna valerious

    But she would make a cool Yuna in FFX.

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  • Jan 07, 2005 10:45:06 AM CST

    way to post "cool news"

    by zo

    two weeks later. thanks. really up to date here. u forgot to tell us tobey maguire was spiderman too.

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  • Jan 07, 2005 11:11:57 AM CST

    Lois is better older than Clark and less hot...

    by stlfilmwire

    She is the news vet... not some young muffin. It is wrong for Clark to fall for a REALLY HOT PIECE... it would be better if Lois was attractive but average... out of all the girls Superman could fall for, he picks some average tough journalists... that is what makes the relationship special. For him to pick the hottest piece of ass in Metropolis takes away from the relationship.

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  • Jan 07, 2005 12:36:54 PM CST

    Just watched last night's OC.....

    by chorleyfm

    All I can add to my earlier comment is at least it isn't Mischa Barton.

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  • Jan 07, 2005 1:00:32 PM CST

    Not excited

    by kyle.reese

    Kevin Spacey seems to have lost it. He was great in American Beauty and Swimming with Sharks (even his small role in Seven) but lately I haven't been in impressed with his work. I rather he weren't playing Lex. I can already picture him shaved bald but I'm not excited one bit.

    And since this is a follow-up to Superman II does that mean Lex will be a jester-like crook?... I prefer the darker, more manipulative billionaire Lex of Smallville.

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  • Jan 07, 2005 3:02:23 PM CST

    Let's REALLY piss off "Nicole 21"

    by kid z

    Since Superman is an alien (it's apparently just a fluke of parallel evolutionary pressures that Kryptonians looked just like humans... like the way emus and ostriches are so similar though are totally unrelated creatures), as an alien totally unlike Earthlings he should really have NO attraction for Lois or any Earth woman. All the hormones and pheromones that cause sexual attraction would be based on a completely unrelated bodily chemistry. Supes getting with Lois would be unlikely due to this fact. Also, since Kryptonians were so much more evolved than humans (almost godlike under a yellow sun, in fact) the very idea of Kal-El having relations with any Earthling would basically be tantamount to beastiality! So why is Supes so attracted to Lois? Well, maybe he's just the Kryptonian equivalent to a radical sexual libertine (like that guy who made it with all the animals in that old "Preacher" storyline). Superman is just a huge PERV! I'll bet he doesn't stop with just Lois either. Since to him all humans are basically smart bugs compared to his highly evolved Kryptonian forebears, well any bug would be just as good as the next. He's probably had a go with just about everyone and everything... Lois, Lana, the entire Smallville Crows cheerleading squad as well as the football team, Jimmy Olsen, Lucy Lane, Perry White, Elton John, Barbra Streisand, a pig and an elephant, Titano... Supes has a hankerin' for @$$ of all kinds! He's just a big ol' cosmic HO! Okay, now watch Miss RedState explode!

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  • Jan 07, 2005 3:39:43 PM CST

    Spacey Is Luthor

    by jervis tetch

    ...and just in time for old "my career is evaporating" Kevin.

    If memory serves, Spacey was set to play Luthor many years ago, when he was much more of a hot star, in the Tim Burton/Nick Cage Supes.

    His getting the part all these years later, when he is ice-cold at the b.o, evidently reflects the regard of director Bryan Singer (who directed Spacey's Oscar-winning gig in "The Usual Suspects.")

    I sure hope this saves Spacey's career. P.S. Will his Lex look like his "Dr. Evil" in the "Goldmember" spoof with Cruise, Paltrow, and DeVito? P.P.S. Bizarre: Spacey and Kate Bosworth being cast together after doing "Beyond the Sea" together. Failing upward?

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  • Jan 08, 2005 7:58:15 PM CST

    FOR FUCKS SAKE GAY BASHERS...

    by andy dufresne

    Spacey is a serious actor, he refused any kind of billing on Seven (a rare act for an actor and one the agent probably choked on) just so that he could maintain the mistique of the movie ending. Do you seriously think he would violate the Superman movie even if he were gay? As we say in England, you bunch of twats.

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  • Jan 09, 2005 10:12:52 AM CST

    nicole21

    by scytheofluna

    Don't you ever get tired of being a complete cunt? Doesn't being a festering social cyst get old?
    Your monotonous droning is certainly amusing, though redundant. Your obsession with homosexuals is borderline froidian, and 9 out of 10 people wish you would just shut the fuck up.

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  • Jan 09, 2005 10:15:35 AM CST

    nicole21

    by scytheofluna

    Though I must agree about Streisand. She is the antichrist.

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  • Jan 09, 2005 3:45:04 PM CST

    JDanielP

    by one9deuce

    "Under the Wing of Batman" is the worst idea I have ever heard for any film ever. That sounds like a 10 year old's idea of a "cool" way to bring back The Joker. But I doubt you were even 10 back in 89, judging by the current ideas you have shared in other threads. BUT, I do look forward to your posts more than any other talkbacker because your ideas are like the exact antithesis of what would be an awesome movie. They are very entertaining to read though. Please don't stop sharing them. My conscience almost stopped me from posting this.....until I went back and read the synopsis for bringing back The Joker again. As far as Kate Bosworth goes, she is too young. This movie is going to flop in a big way.

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  • And you think my idea(s) suck? I can't wait to read more "realistic" options ... more "believable" options ... from you. -- Oh, what's that? You can't THINK of ANY? No creative ability? Your mind is a blank slate? (Huh, that's what I thought.) -- Oh, ... and by the way, ... my ideas are damn good. When I can see it "clear as day" in my mind's eye, just as if I was witnessing it at the local movie theatre, I see cool motion pictures that you'll never witness. Too bad. -- I feel sorry that I can only type into words what I'm trying to convey. The "UNDER THE WING OF BATMAN" screenplay idea would have been a GREAT way for Warner Bros. to bring back Jack, which is what they desired to do back then. Not to mention a great way to introduce Robin. The whole thing with the jet-pack having the "push mower pull-cord" was a way to blend it with Tim Burton's talent, ... his artistic style. You think Tim Burton is going to have a jet-pack lifted from a James Bond movie? Hell, no! He's going to make that jet-pack pop and ping with sound ... and zip right along in his artistic style, with a Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang start and puffing smoke in an almost cartoon way. An artist (yeah, like myself) has an eye to do this ... to infuse his style ... and I don't give a flyin' fuck if anyone else here says otherwise, if I had my shot, .... and I do mean a REAL shot, .... I'd show people such as yourself and Mr. so-called Miracle what real fantasy filmmaking is all about. -- If you know so much, I'm VERY interested in reading what you've got to say. Or are you just going to bad-mouth me with ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to back it up? What's that? Is that crickets I hear chirping? C'mon, ... let us ALL read how filmmaking should be done, from your perspective. And please, can you be more specific? -- (An artist friend of mine actually watched that re-editing I did on VHS tape ... with the dubbed "suicide run" music from "DANCES WITH WOLVES" ... and he "got" what I was trying to convey. He loved it. And he grew up with comic books like I did. And he asked to watch it again. And he did.) -- I may not be able to do much else in life, but I can honestly say that I've been told by numerous people, throughout my life, that I'm the most talented person they've ever known. I just wish I could convey that to people where it would get me somewhere in life. (You know, as opposed to trying to spell it all out for people such as yourself. And yeah, if I could draw you a picture, it WOULD help.)

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  • Jan 10, 2005 1:38:52 AM CST

    JDanielP

    by one9deuce

    "fantasy filmmaking" is an oxymoron by the way. I have said to you on other threads that no one will "give you a shot". If you have movies you want to make, then you need to make them. It is really that simple. Name a director and I will tell you how they broke into the business. I can guarantee that it's because they created their own opportunity. See the problem is that the most shitty, low budget, poorly acted film on planet earth is still better than your film because: YOU HAVEN'T MADE ONE! The biggest douchebag in the room is the person who says they are really talented at something they have never even done. So what exactly was your idea to introduce Robin? I am honestly curious.

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  • Let's see you improve on my idea. Can you? -- Imagine it's 1990 and Warner Bros. wants YOU to write the story to bring back Jack as the Joker ... even though the character seemed to have died. How do you do it?

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  • Jan 10, 2005 10:24:19 AM CST

    JDanielP

    by tarontine

    One9Deuce, you are being way too hard on this guy. While not to your taste and seeming amateurish being written in Talkback...because ANY idea is going to look amateurish in Talkback... don't go slamming down on this guy. It actually shows some moderately reasonable creativity... sitting on the receiving end of guys pitching ideas at comic book conventions, I have seen far worse. To be fair, you shouldn't get upset, JDanielP. You set yourself up for getting bashed by posting an idea here... not that it's fair though.

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  • Jan 10, 2005 3:23:47 PM CST

    tarontine....

    by one9deuce

    You seem like a very level headed and fair person, and I respect you for coming to his defense. But he DOES ask for it. Most of his posts consist of: "People tell me that I am the most artistic talented person they know, I have all these great ideas but Warner Bros. just won't give me the chance, I could do this movie so perfectly even though I have never made anything......ever". You get the idea. If Andy Kaufman was still alive, I'd be thinking that he is JDanielP and playing an incredibly clever role that was perfectly designed to look like a jack-off. But unfortunately JDanielP is probably legit. Anyhow, the answer to your question JDanielP is this: You don't. Bringing him back is stupid because The Joker was D.E.A.D. It would be ridiculous, lowest common denominator filmmaking. Jeez, you sound like a "suit". "Batman made $251 million domestic, and people really liked Jack in the role of The Joker. Hmmm we HAVE to bring him back!" Actually, the way to bring him back is the way he WILL be brought back. New Franchise means they can start over with everything. If Batman Begins makes $200 million domestic, there will be a sequel, and don't think for a second that you won't see The Joker, or The Penquin, or The Riddler in part two. Now honestly JDanielP, I am doing you a favor. You act as though it is your destiny to make films, except that you AREN'T. So get pissed off at me or whatever you need to do, but get off your ass and start making stuff. If you really are talented, then I promise you will make it in the business. But you have to be able to show people what you have done, because that is the ONLY way to become a director. And lastly, you do have balls posting your ideas on a talkback forum, I'll give you that. So anyway, quid pro quo on the questions. I answered yours, so you answer this: What was your way of introducing Robin? I won't rip on it, that isn't why I am asking, I really want to know. Future threads are fair game though ;)

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  • Jan 10, 2005 4:11:35 PM CST

    Oops ... sorry about that guys ... baby getting fussy ...

    by jdanielp

    It seems like we are actually beginning to discuss the subject ... rather than blow off steam. And I appreciate it even if you HATE my ideas. -- Sometimes it seems people attack ... rather than ... you get the picture. (I must tend to the baby.) I'll be back!

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  • First of all, let me say "thank you" to "tarontine" for coming to my defense, no matter what his personal opinion is (or would be). I don't like the abuse in these talkbacks any more than anyone else. I'm human and I get angry ... and sometimes, I'll erase a reply before "posting", when I realize I'm reaching a new low. (And I really don't want to do that.) -- I don't have a problem with people disliking my ideas. But I would, however, appreciate the criticism without the hostility. -- (I'm going to have to make this quick. No time.) -- I'm married and as you already know, we have a baby. She works. I work. We barely make it, financially. (We can, at least, afford SOME entertainment.) There is absolutely NO oportunity for me. Nothing. Nadda. Never has been in ANYTHING I'm interested in. And though I may not be 40 years old, I'm getting close. So, what am I supposed to do? Go to film school? Take out a risky loan (if we could even get one) to purchase all the video equipment I would need to make and edit movies? And then what? Write a screenplay? Find some actors? -- Yeah, ... years ago, when I had that VHS camera, I made some fun home movies with my young nephews (they loved it) ... but the only editing POSSIBLE was by shooting in sequence. Well, you get the idea. Small time. Though fun. -- Dang it, folks. I have to go to work. You know, ... to the REAL job. But it pays the bills. Until next time. (And I do hope to address more questions.)

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