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About That REVENGE OF THE SITH Presentation Of The First Eight Minutes...
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Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
Seven minutes. Eight minutes. What’s the difference? The point is, there are a lot of companies that are now seeing the presentation, and I’ve gotten verification from about a dozen different people. This one has some of the coolest details I’ve heard yet, including a description of the opening shot that just plain makes me giddy:
Moriarty,
One of the few places I visit on a day-to-day basis is AINTITCOOL! I just read the review posted by Remo and thought I would add a little detail.
I happen to work for a company that is going to sell a LOT of merchandise for Lucas. Part of that marketing strategy was presented in a brilliant format .... Lord Vader requests your presence to discuss his plans .... There was TONS of merchandise from toys, to graphic novels, to bed sheets. I was in awe. One of the rooms that was set up was for the "marketing presentation". I reluctantly entered as I didn't want to waste a lot of time. However, once I entered the room and saw the double row of leather couches, and the line of speakers (go-go THX) I knew I was in for something great.
Once the presenter had concluded the presentation, they said something like "and now here is the first 7 minutes of the next Star Wars film".
The room went dark and the scroll began, setting up the movie, describing how Palpatine had been kidnapped. The screen cuts to a planet we all recognize a Coruscant, very quietly a star ship begins to come into view. Ther is almost no sound except for the engines of the ship. We follow this in until it fills the entire screen and slowly we rotate "underneath", between the ship and the planet. Once we get here the noise starts in and we get our first view of the battle in progress. Note: it was about here that I crapped my pants the first time. The camera follows in Anakin and Obi-wan's Jedi fighters. However, you can plainly see that Anakin has modified his. The front part of his cockpit has been replaced with a view window that looks like a Tie-Fighter. He and Obi-wan then spend the next 5 minutes in a desperate attempt to get to the ship holding Palpatine.
Let me just say that if you took all of the space battles from all of the Star Wars movies they would not come close to what I saw in the first 7 minutes of this film. Epic is the ONLY word I can use to describe what I saw. In addition to the numerous small fighters and droids that are deployed against the Jedi, the background is filled with Star Destroyer level ships. This continues until Obi-wan's ship gets hit with "Buzz-Bots" and the droids begin tearing his ship apart, including destroying his astromech droid.
I had generally bad attitude towards Revenge of the Sith, and still believe that Lucas will &*%$ things up, but what I saw in those 7 minutes made took my breath away. I was BLOWN AWAY by what was done to pull the audience in. And we never got to any of the personal battles between the Jedi and Sith!
Well, I hope you can find something in my ramblings that you can use.
Just call me .....LarkI’ll have the new Jedi Council up sometime tomorrow, so until then, this should give you fellow SW geeks something fun to chew on.
"Moriarty" out.
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I can't wait! No matter how many whiny hiney retards bitch and moan about their lost childhood, I'm still a diehard fan. I have the ability to distinguish between expectation and what's on the screen. I don't give a fiddler's fart if Greedo shot first or if Jar Jar's a hermaphrodite. I welcome enhancements to the DVDs. They're like remixed versions of hit songs. I dig 'em. Lucas is the only one making epic sci-fi these days, and I'll take anything he does as long as it's Star Wars. Any Star Wars is better than no Star Wars.
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I think that if Lucas were to break the movie up into 60 two minute trailes and then assemble it as a movie, then he could be succesfull. He seems to be good at making Star Wars trailers, but not at full length movies. The Episode I trailer rocked, as did Episode II's trailer, and this again is perfect. But when I leave the theater, im confident I will be trying to convince myself I liked it like I did with the last two movies. But who knows, maybe third time is the charm!
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Man I hat the dickhead who invented the paste button. Now every fucktard uses it. Incidently the whole droid army in PM has not been in any way comparable to a certain piece of junk revealed a long long time ago.
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Big fat fucking deal. So Lucas fills the screen with even more ships, even more droids, jams every last square centimeter with some form of multicolored CGI, and you know what? It won't mean shit. Why? Because I don't give a rat's ass what happens to these characters. Lucas has utterly failed at the one thing that would have made these films watchable - good scripts with good characterizations that make the audience care about the characters. Not to mention his legendary inability to direct any kind of passionate performance from his human actors. Not to mention that the actors just plain simple stink. He can vomit untold millions in CGI at me, and it'll make a nice desktop image for my 'puter, but it won't mean shit.
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who ever did the original lep zep joke, back me up here. besides that I CAN'T wait for the new ROTS!!! I am willing to forgive lucas for the raping of my childhood and greedo shooting first.
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Oh boy I can't wait. It's funny, but with the prequels I can honestly say I've enjoyed the hype and speculation leading up to each flick more than the actual flicks. I know I am not alone on this. Still, anticipation for ROTS has my blood running and I can't wait! I also can't wait for tomorrow's Jedi Council. I love those things! Keep 'em up Mori!!!!
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Nov 14, 2004 11:19:05 PM CST
Calling All SW Trolls: try to top each other as you proclaim yo
by tall_boy
"Worst Cosmic Wars ever. I will only see four more times. Today."
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Go on and hate it, you fucks. Hate on the Prequel Trilogy all you fucking want. It's way too good for you anyway. You're right, Lucas doesn't care about you. You're so adult and witty, all of you. All of your criticism is really deep and well thought out. You're all really original and have some really interesting insights into Lucas' failure. Fft. You hate Star Wars SO MUCH that you cannot fucking wait to get on the TBs and scream how it will suck. Well, you know what? You suck. Just like your opinions. Just like your feeble criticism. "Star Wars is gay and so are you if you defend it. You have gay love for Star Wars." You stunted retards are still using "gay" as a negative? How pathetic. Go watch Buffy and shut the fuck up.
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...but once the dialog starts I'm sure it will be classic Lucas hamfisted mediocrity.
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Nov 14, 2004 11:31:55 PM CST
As much as I HATE the 'star wars sucks' jedi council, I'm actual
by theginger twit
Try to go easy on this one, eh?
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Or even the first 90 minutes, as long as GL doesn't fuck the last half an hour, that's the shiit i've been waiting for!
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Nov 15, 2004 12:10:23 AM CST
Star Wars Jedi Jedi Sith and stuff Lord Vader Fighters and More
by dogsoup
Wow isn't Bendis' Powers getting really interesting?! Deena Pilgrim is just so badass! I was so freaked out during the buildup going 'When is Walker going to find her? Is Walker going to get to her before she's raped and murdered?! What's Bendis going to do??" When all along I should have remembered the entire first volume of Powers and relied on Deena to just be her Badass self. It's great to be reading comics these days. Howabout that Warren Ellis too huh? He's a fricking brilliant mind screwing with all of us isn't he? I just adore Planetary. I mean, how can you not??
Oh yeah I almost forgot, Star Wars Star Wars Sith Sith Jedi Jedi Jedi Obi Wan Threepio Vader Vader Darth Maul (oh he's dead) Aurra Sing Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars
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After sitting thru 2 silly Star War movies I'm hoping this is gonna be the one you can actually watch more than once! I just feel if this is gonna be the last Star Wars movie ever it should be the biggest and coolest one of them all. Hope he delivers for the fans sake!
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I'm with you.
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Nov 15, 2004 12:45:52 AM CST
As someone who has watched all the Star Wars movies in the theat
by reverendz
I gotta say, I've loved them all. Every damn one. Now the Eewoks were annoying and Jar Jar was stupid, but the movies have been fun and I'm going to show them all to my kids too. I don't mean this in a condescending way, but I feel really sorry for the hardcore OT fans who aren't down with the new ones. Listen kids, when Star Wars finally aired on TV, I taped it. I then watched it, commercials and all about 450 times. I LOVE Star Wars. I wore out my Empire store bought video when I finally got it. Jedi, not so much, probably only seen it about 15 times. AOTC I've already seen close to 100 times and TPM about 50. I'm very psyched for this next installment and can't for the life of me imagine not being so. Maybe I'm in denial and all that, but maybe I just like watching fun movies. :-)
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I'm sorry but people do care, millions of people care. Lucas or anybody involved in the movies doesn't read talkback, if they did they probably would've killed Jar Jar in the opening act of AotC. The messed up, homophobic and downright childish views of the anti-Lucas bunch don't represent everybody on the planet thank god. That's why opening day the queue will stretch around the block, that's why some kids actually dressed up in full Star Wars costumes to go see the trailer before the Incredibles, and that's why Lucas will continue to make fun movies like he's always done. He's the guy in all of us who said "if I ever get some money I'm so making a space flick, yeah, with lizard people and shiny robots!" He does whatever the hell he wants, and it works. If you don't like it? Stay home and avoid it, maybe come here and bitch for a bit, you'll feel better, trust me.
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I personally think the prequels are horrible so far. Some people here like them, and that's fine too. But I can guarantee that if the Prequel Trilogy is re-released in theaters in 2019 for it's 20th anniversary, it will not do anywhere near what the Original Trilogy did on it's re-release. It would be interesting too see box office figures for each film in the entire series if George Lucas releases them all in theaters sometime in the future. The Prequel Trilogy just isn't resonating the way the Original Trilogy did. Not even close. They just aren't that good, and time will be the judge of that.
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Nov 15, 2004 1:12:36 AM CST
yay, another whiny, self-indulgent jedi council is coming!
by jules windex
In this one do you just admit you all hate SW? Because the way you attempt to hide this is very annoying.
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Nov 15, 2004 1:25:55 AM CST
everyone who writes for this site brags about getting "giddy"
by eraser_x
What is up with that? I have never heard a guy in real life use the word "giddy" to describe himself. Go figure.
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REVENGE OF THE SITH is the BALLS of the prequel arc (similar to EMPIRE's linchpin status within the original three). Unbridled evil incarnate, which has clearly been the "pulling the strings" as subtext throughout EP1-2, will strike down upon the galaxy and Jedi with great vengeance and furious anger. Some of you SW fans have no idea what's coming. "It's a darker version of Star Wars". NO SHIT.
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When will we find out that Palpatine is clone?
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Dooku is Anakin's father (maybe not literally...he IS eighty, after all!...Maybe Palpatine sampled his DNA and crossed it with Jedi and Sith, including Maul) *** I'm surprised nobody realized this...after all in the SECOND movie of the trilogy, he cuts off his own son's arm (watch AotC and note the sad expression on Christopher Lee's face afterwards)...hmmm, in what other trilogy did some guy's dad do that? *** The fury Anakin feels at Palpatine for talking him into killing his own father at the beginning of RotS is what pushes him over to the other side..."Strike him down and take your father's place at my side!"
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nice and cozy under my lord sidious bed sheets. ooo- maybe i can leave my lord sidious nite lite on! oo-i forgot to brush my teeth with my lord sidious lite saber toothbrush. -oozing with my lord sidious toothpaste.
and we all know who is responsible for this devouring madness, dont we?-
cudos to lord darth lucas.
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All these SW haters must be klingon lovers or summin! I for one can't wait to have a toke on the General Grievious Force Bong! Who wants to join my Redi Council?
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Thank God all those Hobbit-blowing fuckwads won't be there midnight opening night. They certainly won't be doing anything even vaguely gay. Like booing everytime Jar Jar appears. He's CG! He's not real! His feelings will not be hurt! And it's a film! Etcetera! Try shouting at the newsreader next time you're watching CNN. HE CAN'T HEAR YOU. Apparently so it is with movies. Wankstains.
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it will SUCK!! Just playing the odds here...
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bedspreads, lunchboxes, playing cards, posters, dolls....Oy. You know, many of us of a certain age had Empire sleeping bags and action figure carrying cases, so why am I more cynical about it all this time? Probably for the same reason that many (certainly not all) are feeling let down by this series. We're just not watching with the proper youthful abandon. Lots of adults rolled their eyes at yoda or at the ewoks, but their kids all clamored for the f-ing R2 velcro wallet the next day! They have to appeal to the kids because they buy the crap. I think I'd do well to just lie back and enjoy it.
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Nov 15, 2004 10:16:50 AM CST
All the SW haters who keep repeating the merchandise stuff must
by spectrebeeyatch
and all the differen't types of dvd's, 2 disc and 4 disc and collectors set, liking LOTR over SW isn't better but it might be worse
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that Palpatine isn't the emperor. Think about it, in the last two movies he's been the friendly senator when yoda's in the room, but a seriously suspect glint appears in his eyes whenever he's alone with anakin. Its a suckerpunch, man. Its like Dean Keaton was made to look like Keyser Soze. The real emperor is one of padme's handmaidens. How cool would that be? For five minutes? I may be shooting myself in the ass with this theory cos there will be SW trolls that have probably already read the script....but i think a talented, multi layered director like Lucas could pull it off. Oh, right....
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...worth it. The trailer looks good.
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That's right, like Luke and Leia, Anakin and Ally are twins. She was taken from Tatoonine by Dooku (their father) at birth and mentored in the Sith arts by her pop. Kenobi kills her in this film to save his own life (she's one tough bitch). Anakin is pissed as HELL, "we could have brought her back to the light side!" Kenobi: "Would you rather it be me dead?" This was Palpatine's plan all along. Yup, folks, sorry, but that's the biggest spoiler and the only redeeming plot point to these horrible prequels.
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...talkback (and most Star Wars talkbacks recently) is the violent polarization of the "love it or hate it" camps. I've got news for you... all of you... it is entirely possible to both love and hate something at the same time. The two emotions are really not far from each other at all on the human feeling spectrum. Take alcohol and crack, for instance (apt comparisons for Lucas' brand of cinematic hallucinogen). And when it's something like this, that's so subjective and individual in the way it is experienced by each and every viewer, to say you either have to love everything Lucas does or hate it all, is just ignorant. I'm sure many of the people criticizing George most harshly for the lackluster results of his efforts on TPM and AOTC are some of the most passionate lovers of his original trilogy. They are disappointed in the very obviously different approach that George has taken to his more recent Star Wars films and they are outraged that he's trying to alter the originals to more closely resemble the newer films. I think that's perfectly understandable. It's very much the same way I feel about Star Trek and the years woth of dumb, unimaginative, phoned in crap B&B tried to pass off as Trek (Voyager and, now, Enterprise). You get the same rabid defenders in those talkbacks. They say things like "Any Trek is better than no Trek" and "If you hate it so much, why talk about it?" Well, these are stupid things to say. Bad Trek is clearly worse than no Trek (which really means Trek in reruns/rentals) and the same applies to Star Wars. And the reason people voice concerns over something like Trek or Star Wars is because they care about the franchise as a whole. They have an emotional investment in the mythologies and they are angry about the direction their beloved fantasies seem to be taking under the current creative teams. Lucas came up with something truly great and special in Star Wars. I loved the first film more and more every time I saw it and Empire was just a good flick by any standard. The third one was a little lame, but in the larger context (of the other two films) it didn't diminish the trilogy as a whole. For more than 20 years, cinematic Star Wars consisted of two-and-a-half good movies. Now things are different. We've added two largely bad films to the mix (AOTC was a little better than TPM, but not good enough to make the characters any more sympathetic or interesting) and the Star Wars cinematic count is pretty much even (2.5 good films, 2.5 bad films). EVERYTHING is riding on this last movie. Not just the relative worth of the prequel trilogy, but - because Lucas has revised the originals to more closely tie in with the prequels - the overall perception of cinematic Star Wars as it will survive for the next 20-30 years (or until Lucas flip flops on the third trilogy idea again) is at stake. I think that anyone who loves Star Wars should be a little concerned at this point and should give more than half a shit about whether or not this last and most important film of the entire series is going to be any good. Criticisms of the stuff that's come before are completely acceptable in discussions of this, but to come out and say ROTS will suck based on a trailer isn't very worthwhile. I just hope Lucas has learned from his last two forays what works and what doesn't and that ROTS doesn't leave the same disappointing taste in my mouth as TPM and AOTC. I want to believe, but I'm not going to be naive about it.
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That's why Hayjerk has Maul's eyes (in the trailer) and there's a maulskin rug on the ceiling of his house (in the Phantom Menace), har har.
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Nov 15, 2004 12:31:05 PM CST
"Let me just say that if you took all of the space battles from
by dragonfire
Blablabla. I'll believe it when I see it. I'm tired of the prequel space battles. All the shots from the ROTS teaser which bothered me were space battle shots.
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Every time that I read a post from the small yet vocal group of Star Wars haters that troll these talkbacks, I picture Simon Cowell from American Idol in my head. And they're annoying as hell just like Simon. Thus I dub this pathetic group of whining naysayers "Simon Sayers". Now drop your pants and bend over so Lucas can ass-rape your childhood again. Losers...
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If he did a complete hack job on the first two prequels, esp TPM. Just lock him up at The Ranch, fill it with hookers, coke and automatic weapons and kidnap his children to a safehouse. Give him routine testosterone injections and beat him with a stick. Then tell him his brains or his re-writes will be on that paper. See if he makes a movie "for kids" ever again.
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Sure, you didn't read my post in the LAST article about the 7-8 minute preview shown to marketers. The difference is that I provided actual support for my theory and yours is just conjecture. Here's a recap: similiar lightsaber techniques, same flight formations, Shmi's lie not the first by a protagonist, Luke loses his hand in the second film of the trilogy, just like his father to his own father. AND it's my theory that Palpatine is a clone of Sidious, and in the EU he has a history of cloning new bodies for himself, that's why the Jedi council cannot sense something's amiss when standing right next to him. Am I absolutely right? Nah, these are just theories. We'll have to wait and see.
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SO: Quit telling us how damn much fun the first two prequels were. They are sorry inheritors of the OT legacy, "FUN" or not...
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The last time I fucking checked, having fun with something is generally a good thing. "Oh, man that roller coaster ride was fun, but it wasn't good." "I had a lot of fun playing that video game, but it wasn't good." Man, what a fucking idiot! I'm sorry, but fun DOES equal good. Now go have a bad time whacking off to your National Geographic magazines...
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Uh, hate to be the one to mention it, but the subjects of Star Wars and "indie-cred" don't really belong in the same zip code. Maybe you meant "undie crud."
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Nov 15, 2004 4:00:15 PM CST
B.NyeTheUruk-Hai-- I think Al means that "fun" does not neccessa
by fatpaul
For example, the Mona Lisa is commonly considered an artistic masterpiece, but I've never heard anybody say that it was fun. Likewise, a rollercoaster might be fun, but it probably doesn't have much in the way of artistic content.
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I always watch
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Star Wars is not better than Lord of the Rings, Lord of the Rings isn't better than Star Wars. They take the same basic concepts of good versus evil in completely different directions and both are masterful in thier own right. Star Wars wouldn't have happened if it hadn't been for fantasy books like Lord of the Rings and campy tv shows like Star Trek. On the other hand Lord of The Rings wouldn't have made it to film if it weren't for the success of the Star Wars films. Just because some of you competitive fuckwits like to have Kirk vs. Solo and Luke vs. Strider debates doesn't mean that the majority of Star Wars fans Like LOTR and vice versa. Yeah, I own the extended editions of the LOTR movies and a shit load of action figures, I also have a shitload of Star Wars stuff. So fucking what? Why does everything have to be a goddamned contest? Why can't you just enjoy what you enjoy and fuck everybody else. Who says you can't enjoy both? So knock it off with the hobbit gay jokes, grow the fuck up and behave like adults. If you don't like Star Wars fine, but all you are doing by posting your disgust every time a new ROTS thread starts is indicating how fucking petty and ignorant you are. Like anyone's opinion is going to be swayed by some hateful talentless netnerd. Seriously, what the fuck do all of you LOTR and STAR WARS haters do for a living anyway? Seems to me if any of you had produced a successful, intelligent film of your own I would have heard of it. I have heard of Lucas, and Jackson, but I haven't heard of any of you hacks. Funny how the people who bitch the loudest have the least to actually contribute
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I completely understand your explanation, FatPaul, and I do understand what Alatar_Blue was trying to say, but... to describe any of the Star Wars movies in terms of artistic content is like comparing Evil Dead 2 to Shakespeare. Alatar_Blue has completely missed the point of the Star Wars movies if he is expecting some kind of artistic epiphany when he watches them. And I agree with E.B.Frankenstein in that some so-called "movie fans" -- and I put this in quotes because some of the AICN talkbackers don't appear to like ANY movies these days -- are self-professed Star Wars prequel haters for the purpose of lamely attempting to be cool. "Does anybody even care about Star Wars anymore?" Ummm, YEAH. I'm sorry to burst your instant movie connoisseur credibility bubble, but millions upon millions of REAL movie fans care. Spew your pathetic hate somewhere else and leave this Talkback forum to real movie fans. Don't get me wrong, if you don't like the prequels, then that's fine -- your opinion is your opinion and you're welcome to it just like I'm welcome to mine. But I'm disgusted when the tiny minority of Star Wars prequel haters think that they speak for all movie fans when they spew their hate from their parents' basements. Do us real movie fans a favor and shut the fuck up...
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damn, you two need to lighten the fuck up.
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Nov 15, 2004 9:32:01 PM CST
the final movie will be a 2 hour "marketing presentation"
by buck_turgidson
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Do we get to have the "first night" bedsheets from Anakin's and Padme's first rumpus? I'll pay top dollar.
Padme: Use MORE force Anakin!" -
Archenemysis are you a real life gay? F*@# story all I want to see is a 2 billion dollar CGI future battle ...Death Machines engaged in tech-no genocide... the end how do you like that story dumb a$$
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Nov 16, 2004 10:20:54 AM CST
Thank you for saving my keystrokes (Read: BREATH) FatPaul...
by alatar_blue
.... leaves me more time for whacking off the National Geo don't you know! {;o)
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Are you sure you know what "campy" means?: Main Entry: 3camp
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
1 : exaggerated effeminate mannerisms exhibited especially by homosexuals
2 : a homosexual displaying camp
3 : something so outrageously artificial, affected, inappropriate, or out-of-date as to be considered amusing
4 : something self-consciously exaggerated or theatrical *** And while one might make an argument for Trek being dated, I hardly think the term applies otherwise...
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There is way to much money to be made for Lucas to stop, although I doubt he'll direct them.
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Okay so you chose one word in my post that you didn't feel fit and had to write an entire post just to nit pick that? Well in my humble opinion the original Star Trek is pretty cheesy, campy, whatever the hell term suits you. It doesn't mean I don't love it, but the over all point I was trying to make really doesn't hinge on that one word.
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