Nov. 10, 2004, 11:33 a.m. CST
I am pissed about Tru's cancellation. I was thrilled when they decided to give it some more time and then FOX changed their minds, once again, stabbing genre fans in the back. A real shame. I am thrilled though about the progress of the three best new shows of the year: Desperate Housewives, Lost, and Veronica Mars. I like "Jack and Bobby" and wish it would smash the dull "Kevin Hill".
Nov. 10, 2004, 11:34 a.m. CST
Just kidding, Herc. It's all in good fun. Seriously though... Buffy and Angel are gone. Where is the "Smallville" news and how is it POSSIBLE you don't like that show???
Nov. 10, 2004, 11:37 a.m. CST
First of all, I can live without 'Tru Calling' if Eliza returns to TV next Fall to do a 'Faith' spinoff from Joss Whedon & Marti Noxon, among others. However, Joss is now saying he's done with TV---maybe he should consider CABLE like USA or FX, that would actually allow a well done genre show to stick around (Like 'Dead Zone') and frankly, it could be a little more 'adult' if done on Cable. As for 'Smallville', it sucks and nobody cares about crap like that.
Nov. 10, 2004, 11:42 a.m. CST
I always thought from the beginning that Clubhouse was on the wrong night. I felt it would have fit in great behind Joan of Arcadia. Tues and Sat nights aren't good for a show like that, and the premise of it sounded like it would be a nice complement to JOA. The few eps I did see of the show it didn't seem bad at all, just on the wrong night. Finally, they cancelled Tru. I caught the pilot ep and was turned off immediately by it. It sounds like the WB wants Joss to do something buffyverse and Joss said that a Faith spinoff would be his 1st choice (even though mine was a Willow spinoff). Hopefully they'll push ahead now.
Nov. 10, 2004, 11:47 a.m. CST
Your favorite Veronica Mars is dead in the ratings. This week episode was one of the lowest rated. So before starting to shit on somebody else show, look at your own. UPN also ordered two sitcoms for mid-season. Guess where they are going? I am specifically pissed at your treatment of "Jack & Bobby" and "Clubhouse". "Clubhouse" is not a spectacular show by any means but it was the only thing worth watching on Saturday(except Anime on CartoonNetwork). And I still do not get your beef with "J&B". "J&B" is the best WB had to offer in a while. And if that is gone, all you will see is endless array of teenage soaps and 20 more years of "Charmed" and "7th Heaven". Do you really want that?
Nov. 10, 2004, 12:26 p.m. CST
According to thefutoncritic.com, Mutant Enemy has disbanded. Guess that means no Buffyverse shows anytime soon. Wonder if Tru had gotten the ax last season, if Faith would be on the WB this year. I also thought Clubhouse was on the wrong night. For a family show it wasn't half bad. At least Veronica got picked up for a whole season. Yay! Now if only Scrubs could get some decent ratings.
Nov. 10, 2004, 1:19 p.m. CST
Veronica Mars was picked up for a full season like 2 weeks ago. Meaning its not dead. It may not make a second season but it is pretty guarenteed that it'll last till spring.
Some one said that they liked Jack and Bobby and wish it would smash Kevin Hill...I really don't get why people are not watching Jack and Bobby...I have seen shows that get raitings as low as Jack and Bobby and they suck...J&B does not suck... If it gets canned at the end of this season all i can say to viewers is...FUCK YOU sean
Nov. 10, 2004, 2:39 p.m. CST
by Big Bad Clone
Oh and I'm not too keen on a Faith tv series (unless run by Tim Minear). I still like Slayer U with Willow as the head mistress. It could have Gunn, Giles, Andrew, or maybe Wes' dad as teachers with guest spots by all the Buffyverse. Have a few stand out students. One that augments her own power with magic, a badass, that headcase that was on Angel, etc. Have them fight the vaccum of power set off in Angel when Wolfram & Hart lost their links to our world.
Nov. 10, 2004, 3 p.m. CST
#1)Last year "Jake 2.0" was picked up and cancelled with similar ratings. #2)Last year "Rock me baby" had 2.2/3 in the same spot("Mars" has 1.8/3) and also got canned. I honestly expect "Mars" to last longer. Maybe 18 episodes. But end is near and "Mars" will not survive to next year.
Nov. 10, 2004, 3:27 p.m. CST
Well, since a SMALLVILLE AICN boycott seems to be in effect, this seemed the opportune moment to throw out the idea. Too bad Teri Hatcher seems like she's going to have an actual post-LOIS AND CLARK career on DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES and probably won't be willing to even film a SMALLVILLE cameo as Lara or Lois' mom...
I'm actually happy UPN's finally got a drama series that people are paying attention to with Kevin Hill(couldn't care less about Nancy Drew 2004, or whatever it's called). The fact that it's beating Jack & Bobby in the ratings is impressive as well. WB has a wealth of these shows anyway, from Gilmore Girls to One Tree Hill to the Mountain, to Seventh Heaven, they're certainly not hurting in the "pretty young people with problems" category. UPN gets too much flack for its black comedies, so it's great that they have a perceived balance with the dramatic Kevin Hill.
Nov. 10, 2004, 5:25 p.m. CST
too bad, because it started to get interesting at the end. oh well. did they already film some episodes that they might add to a dvd release?
Nov. 10, 2004, 6:12 p.m. CST
now only if mel gibson would go away permanently too.
Nov. 10, 2004, 6:14 p.m. CST
Seriously. They've already acknowledged the archaic nature of the traditional 22 ep TV "season" and have gone to a de facto three-season regime (fall, post-NFL, summer). Why not abandon the concept of the season altogether and bring shows out on a rolling basis? At least they'd have a chance.
Nov. 10, 2004, 6:25 p.m. CST
So, what is AICN's deal with Smallville anyway? Did I miss something?
Nov. 10, 2004, 6:28 p.m. CST
Did I spell his name right? Who cares! Jason looks like Wally Cleaver's gay twin. Watch he'll get arrested one day for something like child molesting or he'll kill his wife or girlfriend. Another idiot is Shaun "Do Ron Ron" Cassidy. Every show I seen him produce has been horrible. The last show he worked on was Cold Case. The cases were obvious and only showed how inept the police were that they didn't figure it out before. Then all of the sudden Cold Case actually got less predictable. The reason: Shaun Cassidy was no longer in the credits.
Nov. 10, 2004, 7:06 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
And I for one watch LAX regularly. I don't think it's a fantastic show by any means -- I find it more "watchable" and "okay". If it goes off the air, then that's fine by me. I'll miss Veronica Mars if it goes off the air, but I'll get over it if they get to resolve the Lilly Kane murder in the finale episode. The show was given a full season order, but who knows if they'll actually get to make all 22 episodes.
Nov. 10, 2004, 7:32 p.m. CST
I'm gonna miss Grounded and Lynsey Bartilson, however. She was a nice redheaded chaser after the hot Laura Prepon on T7S.(who's now a dull blonde, ugh!) GFL wasn't the same after she hooked up with the geek next door, then lost her virginity to him! Then it left Fox altogether, and even I stopped watching. PS: I thought the suicide GIF was nasty, but man-boobs? BARF!
Nov. 11, 2004, 12:28 a.m. CST
Imagine the possiblities. All of the sidekicks would have a chance to take center stage as "faculty" who, while acting like they're in control and know what they are doing, are in reality bluffing their way through. They could make it even more interesting by throwing in Ilyria who pretends to help them but is secretly subverting the slayers-in-training to create a slayer army to conquer the world again. Faith make frequent guest appearances, coming and going on a whim like Wolverine in the X-Men movies.
Nov. 11, 2004, 12:46 a.m. CST
by BEARison Ford
amy adams is hot.
Nov. 11, 2004, 8:11 a.m. CST
Especially some of the Sigfried and Roy stuff, that was a riot. It probably could have hung in there, but the animation was just too damn expensive for a sitcom. Gotta give them props for trying though.
Nov. 11, 2004, 8:56 a.m. CST
Good riddence to Hawaii. I forced myself to finish watching the first episode (only tuned in the first place because I'm a Micheal Bein fan), and God was it awful. I know they were trying for the Miami Vice feel, but they missed the mark by a long ways.
Nov. 11, 2004, 9:41 a.m. CST
by Mr. Smegma
Pride was a shit-biscuit from the work go and only circle jerking Hollywood pukes could've possibly thought the idea would work. And none of this crap about the German guy getting mauled by one of his tigers sucking the humor from the premise, a claim/excuse I've actually heard. The idea plain sucked, the execution sucked, and at $2m. an eppy, somebody at NBC should go to jail.
Nov. 11, 2004, 10:29 a.m. CST
Nov. 11, 2004, 10:43 a.m. CST
Whoops sorry,hit the enter button by accident.. Anywho..Gee think about it..now that DR. vegas is done..he could head back to Pres. Bartlet at the west wing..just like the war in Iraq just happened to really pick up after our election...(and by no means was that a disrespectful shot at the war)..But thats a looking time frame... Yes we should have The faith series..or the slayer school. enough has been said on that one. I wanted to bring this up.. There's a paperback that I picked up called "Tales of the vampire slayer" and its written by Joss wheedon himself..no other writers. Its about 9 tales of 9 different slayers...that go thru the right of passage at the age of 18. like buffy did in the house where the psychotic vamp. kidnapped buffys mom...and no spoilers but not all do make the grade..some bite marks cometh... and its a shot(injection) of buffyverse by the head guy himself. just wanted ya'll to know...its a good read...Im about a quarter of away through..Enjoy.. Peace...
Nov. 11, 2004, 11:11 a.m. CST
by Barney Hood
On ITV3, 9.00pm Tuesdays. I missed it but apparently it was very good.
Nov. 11, 2004, 11:11 a.m. CST
The other two were Summer Glau in one scene on last week's CSI and J.August Richards doing a few scenes as a lawyer on CSI:Miami two weeks ago. There may be more but those are the three I know of. It is a mystery why we are inundated with constant updates on ME writers but nothing on the performers. But then again you can't do a coaxial story for every little thing every person does. That's why the talkbacks are a good source of information. Or they used to be when they were worth reading. Don't get me wrong, the content is, for the most part, still there. It's the inability, or possibly just apathy, of this site to provide a talkback forum that keeps the thread IN ORDER. I have given up reading the talkbacks unless, like Prof Pop-Cult's, the header catches my eye. Trying to participate in a discussion around here is an exercise in futility. It's just too hard to try to follow the discussion let alone attempt to participate in one. When I press "Post" who knows where in the order this will go. Will it be on top, on the bottom, sandwiched between a post from yesterday at noon and one at 6 this morning? Hell, I'm guessing no one will even read this because I am sure there are many others out there like me who read the stories and may even make a Post but don't bother to read what others write. Seriously, who can be bothered to try and follow the jumbled order of the talkbacks? And forget about easily finding the new posts. To do that you have to skim the date & time of all the posts to find any that came in after the last time you read. Why should we waste our time doing that? This really is a shame because, like I said before, there is some good information to be had from the talkbackers at this site. This site does not need a cosmetic overhaul, all it needs is a technical one. We don't need avatars and signatures and favourite quotes; all that is really required are threads that sort the posts in the correct order.
Nov. 11, 2004, 11:28 a.m. CST
I was thrilled when Tru Calling was cancelled. That shows deserved to be cancelled long ago. I predicted that it would be the first show cancelled last season. I guess I was one season off since it was the first show cancelled this fall season. Hopefully Eliza is smart enough to beg Joss Whedon to do a Faith spinoff.
Nov. 11, 2004, 11:47 a.m. CST
It was a sweet family show, but I guess it couldn't find it's audience. I've been watching "Kevin Hill" too. It's good, especially when they deal w/ the court cases. Likeable cast.
Nov. 11, 2004, 11:59 a.m. CST
The deal is that Herc doesn't care for the show... thus, we hear nothing about it. Whereas Harry and Mori will report on movies they think and readily admit are shit, Herc does not do this... EVER. Herc ONLY reports on existing shows and upcoming shows that he has a boner for. IE: ANYTHING and EVERYTHING Buffy-related - even though the show has been off the air for TWO GODDAMN years! Thus, the only time we hear about Smallville is when a former Buffy writer gets added to the writing staff. But if you guys aren't aware, you can get your Smallville fix at the wonderful site www.kryptonsite.com
Nov. 11, 2004, 1:20 p.m. CST
Hey folks... If anyone could help...cbs cut away at the last 10 minutes of csi new york...for arrafat dying. I saw gary and katrinna solve their case....but not the other one..the final one..by the other team...(so who and how???) I was P.O. ed... I think now we need CSI:AFGANISTAN... thanks, Peace...
Nov. 11, 2004, 1:59 p.m. CST
Jack & Bobby is doing less than half the numbers Angel did last year. Not to say that I think it is that bad a show, but that damn well should be Angel's timeslot. Oh well, Boreanaz should be back on our screens next year on with his undercover cop ahow on ABC.
Nov. 11, 2004, 3:55 p.m. CST
by Judge Briggs
there is so much potential with Smallville but it sucks it up with craptacular soapy plots... it's a lame show. LOST is the best new show on television and owns all. Welp, at least we have Lost, The Wire, South Park, and soon Alias... other than that.... Boston Law has potential but the soundtrack in that show makes is unbearable to watch... horrible stupid funky music. Oh and it's too bad about Life as We Know It... that was a pretty cool show because of the monologues... they boys were saying exactly why guys think... too bad it wasnt given a fair chance. man, i am still pissed about Angel and Farscape... gawd, nough of me digressing. piece.
Nov. 11, 2004, 8:45 p.m. CST
by I Dunno
Had to be said.
Nov. 11, 2004, 10:13 p.m. CST
Why? When there's a whole world outside of stale network television, why subject onesself to such crap?
Nov. 12, 2004, 12:31 a.m. CST
by Napoleon Park
Since I've been running the TV Deathwatch over at JTS Group this is old but recent news to me. Still, it's a great season when the best shows are wild hit successes and the worst all tank. ***** I did enjoy Father Of The Pride - thought the Sig and Roy parts were hilarious - and would buy a 13 ep DVD set when/if. I had heard NBC had it on hiatus and would burn off the final six. At a reported one and a quarter to two mil per, would they really burn off from 7.5 to 12 million dollars worth of material without trying to recoup any of that investment by showing them at least once? (But then NBC burned off the final season of Just shoot Me and under-promoted the Frasier finale, so I guess they're capable of it.)
Nov. 12, 2004, 2:17 a.m. CST
the television viewer is the casualty.
Nov. 12, 2004, 6:19 p.m. CST
Nov. 14, 2004, 7:51 p.m. CST
I actually like this show. I told myself after the dumbass's at the WB cancelled Angel last year that I would not allow myself to get into anymore of their shows except for the one's I already watched. But, not having anything else to watch on Wednesday at 9:00, I gave it a chance. It has good story lines, and attractive people, which makes watching it that much more enjoyable. Granted, THE WB has made some stupid decisions in the past, examples being the cancellation of Angel and letting Buffy go to another network, but the majority of their programming out shines the other networks. I pretty much watch their network every night except from 8-9 Mondays, or at all on Thursdays and Saturdays. THE OC has got me on Thursdays.