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Millar concedes to Knowles and an interesting Jimmy Olsen rumor...

Published at: Oct. 26, 2004, 5:56 a.m. CST

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a final update for the night. This one is a two parter. First up is an email sent to AICN from Mark Millar regarding his concession over the whole $1000 bet over who will wear the Red, Yellow and Blue. If you're not familiar with the bet, read this! or click on the link below to get the full details.

I was torn about posting this because Millar seems like a really cool guy and I didn't want this to come off as any sort of celebration where AICN rubs shit into his face. But I know that many of you readers really wanted to know the outcome of the bet, so here it is. Millar has taken the loss in a very gentleman-like way and he's already cut his check to his needy charity, which is very much a stand-up thing to do since the provision of the bet was who will be Supes when the cameras roll. Obviously, we're still a bit from that happening. Here's the email... These are Millar's words, by the way... The subject line was HARRY WINS THE SUPERMAN BET and the rest is as follows:

...and Millar eats some shit:

CLICK IT HERE FOR THE WORDS STRAIGHT FROM MILLAR!!!

On a secondary note, earlier today I was visited by a mischevious imp from the 5th dimension... I can't spell his name... hell, I can't even pronounce his name... but he had some very interesting information regarding who's in the lead for Jimmy Olsen. It's obvious if you think about it... I know Topher Grace has been rumored, but according to that pesky 5th Dimension imp that rumor is cold as ice. What I'm hearing is none other than Bobby Drake, the Iceman himself, is lining up to be everyone's favorite cub reporter. Will Shawn Ashmore ultimately end up as Jimmy Olsen when the cameras roll? It sounds right, but you can never tell. That damn little imp loves to pull fast ones, but I believe he could be on the up and up this time around. I'll try to nail down this rumor soon, but in the mean time what do you folks think of Ashmore as Olsen?





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  • Oct. 26, 2004, 6 a.m. CST

    OLSEN

    by Cassidy21

    Topher Grace would be perfect. Cast him.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 6 a.m. CST

    oh and FIRST

    by Cassidy21

    Just had to say that

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 6:01 a.m. CST

    First!!!

    by 00rth0

    always wanted to say that. Otherwise sounds OK to me.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 6:02 a.m. CST

    it could work

    by TodayzSpecial

    it might work. The dude was on Smallville too. He's an actor that probably will always be able to play younger than he is. I remember by the time Superman IV rolled around, Marc Maclure looked ridiculous running around going, "golly mr. kent." The dude had to be 30 years old at the time!

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 6:04 a.m. CST

    Lois Lane

    by Cassidy21

    And hey am I the only one that thinks the Smallville LL is, well, ugly? Not to mention what a stupid plotline, bringing her in now. Although Bart Allen should be cool. And can someone tell me of SG Atlantis is popular in the US or not - it just started in Ireland 2 weeks ago and so far it seems ok. let me know please (there's a pot of gold in it for ye, don't ye know, begorrah).

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 6:07 a.m. CST

    I was first 00rt0......

    by Cassidy21

    but you will be first one day too. But first (ha ha) you must practice, not to mention ignore ur boring accounting job and focus on that which you can enjoy (not the porno sites dammit) and contribute to all day. Soon the honor will be urs. Bu ya ka shaka!

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 6:11 a.m. CST

    More gentlemanly than I expected, but he just couldn't resist pi

    by quantum_ken

    Doesn't read like a "you got me, you're right" letter. Reads like a "you got me, but hey kids check out these gold watches in my trenchcoat" letter.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 6:53 a.m. CST

    casting question

    by gavbo2

    If this Superman guy is 18, and he does look young, wouldn't it be silly if That 70's Guy was Jimmy Olsen cuz his gotta be like 25 and looks old. I thought Jimmy Olsen was the young kid who looked up to both Clark & Supes?

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Ashmore is a bad Olsen...

    by stlfilmwire

    Just my opinion.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 7:09 a.m. CST

    "Concedes", not "conceeds"

    by Boris the Blade

    Look, talkbackers have a right to mispell, the content writers don't have an excuse. Use a spellchecker for chrissakes.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Ok Millar

    by SoupDragon

    Now can you tell us who the Superman source was, and why they had you so convinced? And also, instead of taking a break from comics, how about taking a break making up stuff about films to drum up publicity for your unrelated projects? (I was with you right up until the Wolverine pimping)

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 8:33 a.m. CST

    That headline scared the Hell outta' me

    by zer0cool2k2

    I thought it referred to Beyonce' Knowles! And where did this gay Shawn Ashmore thing come from? I thought he was sticking it to Michelle Trachtenberg? Why not cast Aaron Ashmore (of Veronica Mars) as Jimmy O? Routh is 25, not 18....and Erica Durance is Hot as Hell, by the way. .......................... On a related note, I stayed up realy late watching "A Time to Kill" the other night and couldn't help but think if they'd made this movie ten years ago, what a great Clark/Supes and Lois, Matthew McConaughey and Sandra Bullock would have made. In one scene, the judge even refers to Bullock as "Lois Lane".

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 8:53 a.m. CST

    That Makes Jimmy Olsen 2 DAYS OLDER than Clark Kent!

    by Drath

    I'm fine with Shawn Ashmore as Jimmy Olsen (so long as he has red hair). But cast somebody OLDER as Clark Kent/Superman!

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 9:15 a.m. CST

    I hate the idea

    by KingKrikkit

    I actually really like Ashmore as Bobby Drake (cant WAIT to see him ice up his whole body in the next movie... wait, that sounded gay, OK you ALL know what I meant!) and I hate the idea of seeing the same actor play two roles within the superhero universe- itd be like casting Hugh Jackman as Supes, id be expecting claws to pop out while hes flying... same with Ashmore, id wonder why hes kissing Supermans ass when he could create ICE from no where, oh wait, because hes JIMMY OLSEN in this movie... give me a break, Ashmores good, I really think so, but dont make him Olsen, please, find another unknown thats perfect!

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Re: Ashmore is a bad Olsen...

    by VoteRoslin08

    I thounght the guy did a more than okay job in X2. He's a good actor and even though icemamn was more of a pussy than I'd like, I realize that he played the part the way it was written. I think he'd be a fine Olsen, but I have to agree with most that the 70's show guy would not only be better, but also there are still many other actors out there that would be better. In the end, Im writing to say it a more than okay casting choice, but nowhere near my dream choice for Olsen. (PS: Thank god Jesus isnt gonna fly)

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Proof that Brandon Routh is gay?

    by Trik

    the rumor mill is really spewing this out. --- Any proof of this?

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Re: ThaSithMaster

    by VoteRoslin08

    Where's the info about the new sups being gay? I think you're being a dick. If Kevin Spacey was cast as Lex, he may be gay but that would kick fucking ass. He's a great actor and would be great in the part. Who do you want... Vin Desil?!?!?!? As for Ashmore, I already posted about him being a pussy in X2, but where did you hear that Ashmore is gay? You seem to have some huge list of obscure gay actors that you obsess over. If an actor comes off gay in a movie (whether he

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 10:25 a.m. CST

    M X Y Z P T L K

    by Squashua

    Or for you older people, M X Y Z P L T K.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Re: Nicole21

    by VoteRoslin08

    *****"Try going onto some old One Life to Live message boards pre-Supes. Many called Routh an average actor at best." THE GUY WAS IN ONE LIFE TO LIVE! EVERYONE SUCKS IN SOAP OPREAS CAUSE SOAP OPERAS SUCK, AND INVESTIGATING OLTL BOARDS MEANS YOURE INTERSTED IN SOMEONES FAT 40 YEAR OLD CHICKS VIEW OF ACTING WHICH IS COMPRISED OF 20% PERFORMANCE AND 80% ABS. *****"But I will not see this in theatres and have long since emotionally detached myself from the project." YOU WILL SEE IT IN THEATRES AND YOU HAVENT DETACHED FROM IT CAUSE YOUR POSTING ABOUT IT ON AICN AND CHECKING OUT ONE LIFE TO LIDE MESSAGE BOARDS! *****"Luthor will be made into a stereotypical stand in for GW...even if he loses." DONT WORRY. GW WILL LOSE... HAHAHA!

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 10:44 a.m. CST

    HOMOPHOBIC TWATS

    by Trevor Goodchild

    Who gives a shit about the sexual preference of an actor playing a superhero. You best all go and pop your LOTR DVD's in the bin.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Outraged!

    by Floyd Gondolli

    Do you mean to tell me their are young comic writing geeks that are struggling to make their way in the world without any financial aid whilst some people with Multiple Sclerosis are just being handed thousand dollar cheques. Jesus shitting Christ, what is wrong with the world.

  • Just go ahead and cast another unknown for Jimmy, Bryan. Nobody knew who Marc McClure was back in '78...

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 11:02 a.m. CST

    still can't see routh as superman....

    by DarthBakpao

    ... this will go down in movie history as the worst casting decision

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Just get his twin brother

    by fantasticx

    For all those that don't want to see Iceman playing Olsen...hire Ashmore's twin brother. Same face, different actor! Problem (not really) solved! Though I must say...hadn't considered him for it, but I could see it. Him or Topher would make a good choice.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Jeeze, get over it...

    by Sidious-1138

    Ya homophobes! Who gives a crap if an actor is gay or not? There are gay actors in every movie you see....just like there are gay people on every tv show, where you work, at the grocery store you go to and everywhere else on the planet............On the subject of Ashmore, he seems like he might have the aw shucks quality for Olsen. Not sure about supes yet, but remember that Christopher Reeve looked pretty scrawny (and even kinda gay) when he was first cast before he bulked up. I think we should trust Singer on this since he seems to have the best grasp of the project we have seen so far.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 11:50 a.m. CST

    "Topher" is short for Christopher...

    by Eugene O

    ...albeit a pretty weird choice for shortening that name.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Good casting

    by Immortal_Fish

    I like it. He's got the right look. The guy's acting never filled my grocery bag, but he's far from horrible. He needs to try acting less with his eyebrows, though. And if he's gay IRL, so what? I don't care if the entire roster is of that persuasion as long as they keep it out of the subtext of the movie. I kept my daughter out of Shark's Tale and I'd like to take her to see this.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Seth Green as Olson!

    by Press Lenox

    Get Green then hire Harvey Keitel as Perry White...now that would be cool.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Millar = Classy

    by Smilin'Jack Ruby

    Thought it was a pretty damn good concillatory note.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Nicole, damn...

    by Super Person

    Why the automatic assumption that EVERYTHING will be politicized? Just because there's a subtext about outcasts that's applied to gays in X2 specifically in just that one scene, why do you assume EVERY freaking movie that comes out by Singer will be politicized? You spout off about all these things that you somehow just KNOW are going to happen, and write the whole movie off based on your inane predictions... back off the penis whistle, missy... maybe because YOU politicize everything, then everything you experience becomes politicized through your own internal filter, but that doesn't necessarily speak to the rest of us...

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 1:12 p.m. CST

    And yeah

    by Super Person

    All this hubbub about whether or not Routh is gay (and whether or not it even matters) inspired me to want to put in that "penis whistle" comment... sometimes I have to say something solely for my own entertainment... :)

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Topher Grace, Frankie Muniz, and Seth Green

    by TimBenzedrine

    are all too frickin' SMART to play Olsen. Jimmy Olsen, in order to work as a character, has to be half a moron. He has to be stupid enough not to see through the Clark Kent disguise (Perry White pays no attention to Clark, and Lois is too busy checking out the superpackage to even look at his face, much less notice the resemblance between Clark and Superman, but for Jimmy not to notice, he's gotta be played by some clueless dope.) I think the actor that plays Malcolm's brother Reese would make a good Jimmy. Topher and Seth are good actors, but they don't play stupid characters.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 1:31 p.m. CST

    They should find a part for John de Lancie

    by Trik

    I think this movie has already jumped the shark and de Lancie prancing around would make it a classic bad movie.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Who the f... are "Topher Grace","Bobby Drake", "the Iceman" (oth

    by SalvatoreGravano

    How about posting some explanations along with these names, since they themselves mean nothing...

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 1:51 p.m. CST

    Chris Reeve was gay, too...

    by Kenshiro_Kane

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but he was married to his beard for years. Kids, wife, blah blah blah... he was gay when that could still destroy your career. Believe me or don't... I don't care, but Singer will most certainly cast a gay Supes as that has been his goal all along. And you should see some of the "casting parties" he has at his house. Unbelieveable, if you're into young guys...

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 1:54 p.m. CST

    THANK YOU NICOLE21

    by bushsux

    I was wondering when you would embarass yourself next. Are you that hateful that you won't see a frickin' Superman movie because the director's gay? It's your right to boycott the movie, it's also your right to act like a homophobic republican idiot. Most psychiatrists agree homophobia is rooted from closet homosexuality. People who hate gays are often gay or bisexual themselves. Pat Robertson is as big a flamer as I've ever seen one.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 1:59 p.m. CST

    It's pronounced mix-e-ish-pittle-ick.

    by Johnny Smith

    Say it with me now.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Who actually bitches about the casting of Jimmy Phucking Olsen??

    by The Founder

    I know Olsen has been a part of the Superman mythos since like forever, but he's a minor character that have managed to hang around for a long time without being killed off, i mean is he still even featured reguarly in the superman comics today?? If Ashmore gets the part so the phuck what.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 2:26 p.m. CST

    As AICN News Top Comic Reviewer, I Must Say That Millar Is Curre

    by Buzz Maverik

    End of non-sequitir. Go back to you lives, or lack thereof.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Salvatore Gravano

    by SCYTHEOFLUNA

    Bobby Drake is the Iceman from X men, Topher Grace is Eric Foreman on That 70's show. Do you even know who Jimmy Olson is? Nobody feels the need to provide context and background statistics for every actor and director they name because most of us know who they are. So no, nobody is going to hold your hand and explain everything to you. If you can't figure out what's being discussed there is a remarkable invention called a search engine. Use it.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 2:57 p.m. CST

    I think it is time to start questioning how narcissistic Singer

    by Declan_Swartz

    http://www3.soneraplaza.fi/GetImages/GetImages_GetImage_jpg/0,3174,26123,00.jpg http://www.chud.com/graphics12/BryanSinger.jpg

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 3:15 p.m. CST

    They should go for the Byrn reboot

    by Trik

    but they're sticking with the old films history. --- A crystal Krypton. --- A crystal fortress that grows out of a single crystal. --- Kryptonians that can point at things and a beam comes out of their finger that can levitate and throw objects. --- Maw and Paw Kent dead. --- Humans a collection of buffons that would be incapable of building a technological civilization. Lex Luthor the Real Estate Magnet. --- I imagine that the highlight of this movie is when superman picks up something *Really Big(tm)* --- He already did the Statue of Liberty, so I guess, maybe the Eifel Tower.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Makes sense to me

    by caerlas

    I could see Iceman as Jimmy. Makes perfect sense. As for the people here who keep speculating about Brandon Routh's sex-life, what is this? Teen People? Who gives a crap? I don't agree with gay lifestyles but at the same time I think Ian Mkellen is also one of the greatest actors I've ever seen. Overall, Brian Singer has made great casting decisions. See past your friggin blind immaturity and give the guy some credit.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Makes sense to me

    by caerlas

    I could see Iceman as Jimmy. Makes perfect sense. As for the people here who keep speculating about Brandon Routh's sex-life, what is this? Teen People? Who gives a crap? I don't agree with gay lifestyles but at the same time I think Ian Mkellen is also one of the greatest actors I've ever seen. Overall, Brian Singer has made great casting decisions. See past your friggin blind immaturity and give the guy some credit.

  • ...That is, unless you're stuck in late 1970s SUPER FRIENDS episodes, in which case, it's pronounced "Mixel-Plick." Apparently, characters with five-syllable names were pretty much verboten.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Our country's obsession with homosexuality is a bit disturbing

    by Lost Skeleton

    First, so what if Roth or Singer is gay...as long as they do a great job with one of my favorite heros...I will be happy. Second, my parents are becoming really religious and conservative...my mother actually said that the greatest danger to the USA besides the "terrorists" is the gays. That is just sick. Gay Americans are just people who want to live their lives in peace. Third, I think I blame the current political climate for all the sudden gay-bashing. It is really disturbing. It makes me wonder who will be demonized next.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Homophobia is a misnomer

    by Ivan_Mtl

    SUXBUSH wrote : "Most psychiatrists agree homophobia is rooted from closet homosexuality." That is not only completely fabricated, but actually pretty silly when you think about it. To say that would suggest that one who suffers from arachnophobia must be a spider himself? Huh?!! Let's clear something up, the word "homophobia" is a complete misnomer. It was a word invented by the gay community to equate a dislike of the pratice of homosexuality to racism. As I have said before, someone who is offended by the homosexual lifestyle because of personal religious beliefs, is no more anti-gay than they are anti-lying, anti-stealing, anti-murder, or anything else set out in the bible (or Koran, etc) as wrong. People, like myself, who have objections to it because there is absolutely no scientific evidence to suggest that it is anything other than a "behavioural disorder", or "sexual dysfunction" have (at least to this point) science on their side. The Gay Rights movement is grounded in politics not science. Did you know that in 1973, homosexuality was removed from the American Psychiatric Association's official list of disorders, not as a result of any scientific breakthrough, but by a campaign of intimidation and harassment. An independent poll of APA members conducted at the time showed that an overwhelming majority considered it to be a treatable disorder. It was because of continued pressure from homosexual activists that the APA eventually voted to "normalize" sadomasochism and pedophilia as well.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Is House MD's guest star Robin Tunney Lois Lane?

    by stlfilmwire

    It could work... but I still like Jill Small or Mia Kirshner.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 4:28 p.m. CST

    BATMAN idea: Faizura Balk as Harley Quinn

    by stlfilmwire

    There u go.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Yeah, he's got that "perpetual youth" look going.

    by morGoth

    Looks good to me and I'm sure some freckles and a red curly hair-do will fix him right up.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Fanboys Suck

    by cybertrent

    You fanboys are really something else. You ask for a director with vision (vs. McG or Ratner), you get one. You ask for an unknown to be cast in the lead role, one has been. You ask for John Williams' music to be used, it will be. Most of you don't want to sit through another retelling of the origin story, and you won't have to. AND YOU'RE STILL BITCHING AND WHINING!! Jesus Christ on crutches, it's one thing for ME to do it (I would never have hired Singer, I'd throw away Williams' score like yesterday's garbage, Tom Welling would be in the title role and I would've lightly touched on the origin story). So it's safe to say that the next Superman movie will suck because it's making no attempt to be original (or hell, even take advantage of the 'Smallville' continuity, which is a lot better than anything directed by Richard Donner and starring Christopher Reeve). But you fanboys are all getting what you want, SO WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU COMPLAINING?!?!?! You've got your precious unknown, so shut the fuck up already!

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 4:50 p.m. CST

    THE PERFECT JIMMY OLSEN: JON HEDER

    by stlfilmwire

    Hear me out: Jimmy Olsen should be a college intern. Jon Heder is that perfect age. He's got the red hair, the comedic potential. Trust me... forget his character from Napoleon Dynamite. Give him a shot.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Cybertrent

    by Super Person

    Damn, I don't even give a shit about Superman and I wouldn't let you near this movie! I'm no fanboy, but I know crap when I see it, and believe me, "Smallville" is CRAP... everything's so bright and fake looking, including the people, including Tom Welling... no, get rid of that... pretend it never existed... you don't have to bow down to the Donner/Reeve version either if you don't want, but JEEZus give me something besides WB-bullshit...

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Gayness

    by Super Person

    Looking back on what some of you have posted, I have to wonder how many of you anti-homosexual types actually have any really gay friends...

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Nichole21 called someone a "wack-job"...

    by Sidious-1138

    ...anyone see the irony? Sorry, couldn't resist Nic........And to the guy who said that gays are trying to legitimize pedophillia, gimme a frickin' break. Do you actually have any gay friends? I do, and they are just as repulsed by that crap as anyone else. A gay person is no more likely to be attrated to a child than a hetero. You are entitled to your opinion, but that kind of bullshit statement is dangerous, ignorant and wrong.

  • Um... he's played plenty of stupid characters.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 6:42 p.m. CST

    "Jimmy's going into shock!"

    by DyslexicHeart

    Jon Heder seems like a pretty good choice for Jimmy Olsen, so is Gregory Smith from "Everwood".

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 6:43 p.m. CST

    They should break with convention and cast Mary-Kate Olsen.

    by gurglesnap

    Stunt casting rules, fanboys.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 6:43 p.m. CST

    I draw the line at my grocery store...

    by MrCere

    I don't mind watching movies with gay actors since all actors are gay but as for the guys bagging my grocery items...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I don't want that punk kid touching my cucumber again! Nor my bananas! All kidding aside, I do believe there is a pretty high ratio of gay actors. Perhaps even interior designers.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 7:45 p.m. CST

    stlfilmwire, Jon Heder is a great choice.

    by Declan_Swartz

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Who cares?

    by Gheorghe Zamfir

    Its Jimmy Olsen for fucks sake, he'll have what, 5, 10 lines?

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 10:30 p.m. CST

    CYBERTRENT

    by oh_riginal

    I hate to admit it, but Cybertrent had a few points in his talkback. Fanboys are rather difficult to satisfy it seems. Anyways, I do agree with some of his ideas. I would also rather have Tom Welling in the role, but I WOULD keep the old score. I think the best thing this movie can do is be seperate enough from both the Donner films AND Smallville enough to satisfy fans of both. That way, the movie can be a continuation of either one you prefer.

  • Oct. 26, 2004, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Gayzilla

    by Ivan_Mtl

    You either can't read, or you are a moron. I never used religion as the basis for MY opinions on homosexual behaviour. I have always stated that my opinions are based on hard irrefutable science. I was just pointing out that an individual's religious freedoms allow him to view homosexuality as deviant behaviour and a sin according to his or her God. By attacking them and their beliefs, you show a complete disrespect for their faith and demonstrate that it is you who are intolerant just because they do not accept your life-style. You are a classic example of an 'in-your-face" gay militant. The kind of individual that feels the need to have a Gay Pride Parade or Gay Olypmics to validate himself (when the Olympics themselves are open to everyone). I'd wager if there was a Hetero Pride Parade, you would scream that it was divisive and smacked of homophobia. You are a sad, lonely man who will grow ald and die alone having left no worthwhile contribution to humanity.

  • Oct. 27, 2004, 7:45 a.m. CST

    THIS SITE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

    by mikeyj83

    Don't you all agree that this site is finished?!! Look at the home page! What is all this crap??!! Do yourselves a favour and go to sites that actually report movie news that is worth a read! Sites like ComingSoon, Chud, JoBlo and filmforce. Then you'll read news that isn't complete bullshit and is actually NEWS! Ya know Harry - NEWS! thats right thats stuff that is NEW and not OLD!! Thats why they call it NEWS!! Is anyone seriously interested in the crap they post on this site these days??!! Why am I here you may ask - to laugh at how pathetic it is! Harry is obviously too busy or too bribed by a certain studio to report any REAL fanboy news! Jump ship now fanboys while ya still can! If you agree then lets start a riot in the talkback here

  • Oct. 27, 2004, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Rupert Grint from Harry Potter as Olsen

    by stlfilmwire

    Look at this picture and see: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0342488 - He's about 16 but maybe he could pass as an 18 yr old freshman. Maybe his youthfulness can make Clark seem older. PLUS... you want him to be young... because he has to look like a young Jimmy through more than one film.

  • Oct. 27, 2004, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Why do some people like IvanMtl just love to hate others?

    by phatboi560

  • Oct. 27, 2004, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Ivan

    by Super Person

    Hard irrefutable science? How so? Religious faith and science almost NEVER go hand in hand... you're basically saying that homosexuality used to be considered a mental illness and was only taken out of that classification because of the efforts of gay activists, but don't you think in the thirty years since then that "hard science" has advanced a bit with exploring homosexuality and has determined there really isn't anything wrong with it? ALL science is refutable, simply because to assume otherwise is to ignore the possibility that the scientists who come up with these studies and concepts might be wrong... there have been hundreds of scientific beliefs considered "irrefutable" in their time which were later debunked; it's an accepted part of science... so maybe (according to you) they removed it as a psychological problem because of gay activitists, but at the same time, don't you think eventually someone would've been able to provide something conclusive to demonstrate that it IS a psychiatric problem? I don't see that they have... on the contrary, they've determined homosexuality exists in the animal world without screwing anything up, and may very well be a natural part of the living world... I don't think anyone's been able to prove it means there's anythign physically wrong with the brain, or anything other than something like a predilection for pizza, or a love of the way grass feels, or not liking cheese... I've known many gay people, and most of them seem perfectly happy with who they are and the fact that they're homosexual.. they don't seem to feel any need whatsoever to shoehorn themselves into a heterosexual life, so why should they? What harm are they doing to anyone or to themselves? I just don't see a problem, past the usual religious one...

  • Oct. 27, 2004, 11:43 a.m. CST

    To be perfectly honest, Nicole21...

    by morGoth

    ...every time I've mentioned this movie is in the works, all I ever get is massive eye-rolling and statements like "What on earth for?" or "Who gives a rats patooty?" I'm not saying I've taken a poll but there really doesn't seem to be much interest in a new Superman movie except for the pre-existing fan base. I just think the TB's are funny and I'm only mildly interested in the movie itself.

  • Oct. 27, 2004, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Ivan and Nicole

    by Homer Sexual

    I also find it amusing that Nicole21 is referring to someone else as a "whack job." And Ivan is one of the most offensive posters I have seen since coming to these boards. But what do I know? I don't even believe my "disorder" is treatable. Someone has apparently harassed the APA when they could have cured us all and eliminated the plague of gayness. ps. Any Singer movie is going to have "gay controversy" since he a prominent gay director. pps. I always wondered about Reeve.

  • Oct. 27, 2004, 1:41 p.m. CST

    The Bible was not written in 1600..that is just stupid

    by MrCere

    It was edited by committee about 1300 years before 1600. King James had some more editing done but that is ONLY the King James version of the Bible. You might be suffering from ignorance Gayzilla, but it has nothing to do with your gayness unless you go to some gay school where they teach the Bible was written in 1600 by the "sick" King James.

  • Oct. 27, 2004, 3:22 p.m. CST

    All Things Gay

    by Barry Egan

    Is there some website I'm not aware of that tells us who is gay in North America? The speculation of the personal lives of celebrities on this talkback is very funny and borderline scary. Iceman's gay? How do you know that? Routh is gay? How do you know that? And the $64,000 questions: Who gives a fuck.

  • Oct. 27, 2004, 4:16 p.m. CST

    CRAZY IVAN

    by SCYTHEOFLUNA

    Sorry pal but to hear the words "hard science" and "religion" in the same post just indicates what a twit you are. The same "hard science" that declares homosexuality a behavioral disorder, declared that the grand canyon was formed in "Noah's Great Flood". So get out of the fucking boonies, and talk to a few gay people. It's not a behavioral disorder and it isn't a fucking choice. Asshole.

  • Oct. 27, 2004, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Cybertrent - A Smallville fanboy complaining about OTHER fanboy

    by IAmJacksUserID

    "I'd throw away Williams' score like yesterday's garbage".... I believe the refuse bin is already full...from your taste in film score. ------ "...the 'Smallville' continuity, which is a lot better than anything directed by Richard Donner and starring Christopher Reeve" .... Even more reason I can be glad you will have nothing to do with this then.

  • Oct. 28, 2004, 3:35 a.m. CST

    IVAN THE IDIOT

    by SCYTHEOFLUNA

    Sorry chump but you can't legitimize bigotry with faith. In the true sense of christianity or any of the major faiths judgement and hatred are faux pas. So to try to pin the victim tag on the fucking christians is naive. No other religion sells themselves door to door or tries to convert everything it comes into contact with. Christianity is responsible for wiping out hundreds of cultures and tribal faiths around the world so please spare us the "poor Christians" bullshit. If your interpretation of your faith is based on a censored "edited for content" King James Bible, you are naive, as the book was written for the most part by understudies writing as the various prophets and paraphrasing for the deciples decades after "Christ" supposedly died. Sorry, but I have little enough confidence in our current journalists and scholars to keep their story straight let alone some ancient christ meisters scribbling on clay tablets and papyrus. I just can't see any of the authors of that book as being particularly reliable. (That's why the magical shit that happens in the Bible doesn't happen anymore for some "mysterious" reason). Not to mention that the Catholics have decided REMOVE HALF OF IT because they didn't think parts of it applied to their particular agenda. So if you want to legitimize hate with what is on the whole supposed to be a framework for a peaceful, benign existence and create fantasies of gay conspiracies, you have to expect that intelligent informed people will laugh in your face. Judgement is a sin by any standard in western religion. (I don't subscribe to any of them, but believe that all faiths are equally valid and equally flawed, but that smart people can read between the lines and find something that applies to their life). But people like you are just fucking nuts. Seriously, if Jesus himself walked into a room full of his followers and objected to any of this homophobic, hateful behavior, they'd sooner call him a fag lover and kick his ass as opposed to just taking a step back and realizing that it's a fucking stupid thing to be insecure about, and that any benign creator (regardless of what name you call him/her/it by) wouldn't approve. Grow up asshole. And quit making generalizations. I happen to know several christians who DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO THAT SHIT. So to try to act as if all of them share the same viewpoint on homosexuality is ignorant and offensive.

  • Oct. 28, 2004, 4:34 a.m. CST

    What the crap?

    by Mr.FTW

    I thought this was a talkback about the casting for Jimmy Olsen, not a talkback for anyone's gay/anti-gay agenda. I just want to see a new Superman movie. Can't we just talk about movies? Bryan Singer gay, guess what? Thats news to me but you know, I don't care, I didn't know, don't need to know and don't want to know. Why? Because its none of my damn business. And any gay themes anyone brought to his X-men movie is what they were already carrying with them. I didn't see any gay themes because there wern't any, Northstar wasn't in the movie getting on people's jocks. The movies just like the comics were about racism. Until the camera pans over and you see Wolverine felching Cyclops shut the hell up with you pro or gay activist rants and talk about movies. So to talk about the movie I think Routh is a bad choice, he doesn't look the part. Superman is a global Icon and the Image of Chris Reeve is the first thing that comes to anyone's mind. Just like Tom Welling they should have picked someone with similar features to play the man of steel. And I agree that Jimmy Olsen needs to be a good ten years younger than Clark/Superman. Besides since Ashmore has been in Smallville and the X movies why would he pigeon hole himeself with another comic role?

  • There, don't you feel better now? :p~

  • Oct. 31, 2004, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Gayzilla, gayness, and other gay matters

    by Ivan_Mtl

    Gayzilla wrote: "By your definitions, The terrorists were justified on 9/11 becuase their religion says so." Huh? What kind of idiotic reasoning did you use there?... "There is not one single piece of anti-homo propagand that is not religious." Well, I pointed out several well documented scientific studies in my previous posts which proves that statement wrong... "You even backpedaled in your own ignorant post." I have no idea what comments you are referring to since I have been very consistent with my statements... "So why don't you tell all the physically challenged children that there is no need for special olympics because there is already a general olympics." If speciallly challenged individuals could compete in the regular olympics, they surely would - and have, in fact. To give you one example, your own Marla Runyan ran in the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney, Australia, where she proved to be the eighth fastest 1,500-meter female runner in the world! She is legally blind. There have been a history of athletes with disabilities that have played sports on the professional level. My point was that the Olympics are open to everyone - including gays. Blacks do not feel the need to have an all-black Olympics. By having a Gay Games, you are, in fact, guilty of the so-called discrimination that you are trying to overcome. By the way, I find it fascinating that all of the posters that have attacked me do so on a personal level. They have never backed up anything with scientific evidence to justify their claims and only resort to emotional outbursts. An interesting sidenote to the poster that mentioned King James. In your gay-revisionist history, you have embraced him as being homosexual himself - despite the fact that he was married and had 8 children (3 of which reached adulthood and the other 5 died at, or within a few years of birth). Shame on you.

  • Jan. 5, 2005, 1:29 p.m. CST

    I'm going to stick my neck out and say I don;t believe this rumo

    by Aston Lad

    It's not that I don;t think it's possible, or even that I think Ashmore's a bad choice; it just reeks of 'made-up scoop' to me. On second thoughts, maybe Singer IS hoping to recast his old colleague, and this scoop was planted to test fanboy's reaction to the idea?

  • Jan. 6, 2005, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Thank you Cybertrent for hitting the nail on the head

    by Aston Lad

    There IS no satisfying most internet fanboys, and Singer himself admitted this once when referring to the slating he got when Jackman was cast back in 99: "You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please everybody on the internet. It's just not going to happen". His exact words.