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Brandon Routh - The Son of Jor-El, Kal-El, Clark Kent, SUPERMAN'

Hey folks, Harry here with the latest on the casting of Superman. Latino Review is announcing that Brandon Routh is locked in to play SUPERMAN in Bryan Singer's adaptation. Well, a look at the story, I noted several things wrong. First, Christopher Reeve didn't die on Brandon Routh's birthday of October 9th, but rather Reeve passed away on October 10th. Second, George Reeves was not the original Silver Screen SUPERMAN, that was Kirk Alyn. Though technically, several years before Kirk, Bud Collyer voiced Clark Kent/Superman for Max Fleischer's brilliant cinematic animated adventures of Superman. But both of those things are nitpicks.

My sources that led me to have the balls to take Millar's ridiculous bet - told me that they were very close to an announcement, that they had their 'big blue bird" but were waiting for the right juncture to announce it. Then Christopher Reeve passed on, and I can only assume this has pushed the announcement further. My source, being a very clever sadist, told me that the unknown Bryan had cast had a lot in common with a famous Goonies character's favorite candy bar. Knowing that A) Sloth wears a Superman shirt in that Richard Donner film. and B) Sloth's favorite candy bar was BABE RUTH, I've been waiting for a break that fit. Well... this Brandon Routh chap has the same initials, his last name sounds like Ruth (I think) and he's definitely a "babe" of a man? SO - I'm betting the folks at Latino Review have landed the Superhero scoop of the year, even if they fudged a few details, but hey... we all do that. Let's see how long it takes Warners to announce, and how they announce. And when Millar is gonna fork over that $1000?

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  • Oct. 17, 2004, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Awesome News!

    by Ribbons

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Any Reeve's dedication for the new film?

    by warp11

    They should at least have a blurb at the beginning of the new Superman movie saying "In Memory Of", or something to that effect.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 12:59 a.m. CST


    by Aphex Twin

    nuff said

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Good News

    by Lujho

    Hey, if this dude can act the part, then I hope it's the guy. I don't think ANYONE will ever totally look absolutely perfect for the part (not even Reeve - he's as close as you can hope for though) but Routh seems to fit the Bill. Fuck, so many years of this, to think they may finally have the guy seems strange.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 1:06 a.m. CST

    By the way...

    by Ribbons

    ...does anybody remember the discussions we'd have about how to cast a better Superman back in the day? They revolved around stuff like "Do you go with someone who can act but doesn't look the part, or take an athlete or a model and stick him in acting school for a year of intensive training?" heh. Anyways, I really don't know how to respond to this news; I assume that if this is the real deal, the kid looks like Superman; also, he can probably act. That's encouraging. Hell, the fact that there might even be a Superman is encouraging, alhough it would be in bad taste to hype the casting decision right now if that's the case.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 1:06 a.m. CST


    by The Finn

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 1:08 a.m. CST


    by Batgirl Click on Pictures, then New Picture s for some shots of him from Halloween dressed as Supes. Be aware that his modeling pictures are from 1999, when he was 20 YEARS OLD!!! Don't say he looks young because of those pictures, because he was young. He is 25 years old now. Eagerly awaiting the official announcement. YES! NO JAMES CAVIEZEL.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 1:11 a.m. CST

    A younger actor to play the Man of Steel?

    by jocutus

    If this is true, than they picked a guy about 2 years younger than Smallville's Welling to play an older version of the same character. Weird.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 1:18 a.m. CST

    Now for the rug to get pulled out ...

    by ADigitalMan

    If Bryan Singer has cast his Superman, then it's about time for the suits at Warner to disagree with the choice and fire the director. It's common practice, you know. If this happens, the biggest casualty is and remains X3. Singer never should have never put himself in the position of getting yanked from that franchise.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 1:21 a.m. CST


    by ADigitalMan

    Jocutus, you took the words right out of my mouth. Welling is actually the correct age to start playing Superman. Why they keep trying to cast somebody younger escapes me. With Christopher Reeve's passing, I wonder if Welling is reconsidering the role. Hopefully it's not too late to make that choice.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Routh, 25, has a mature-looking face

    by Batgirl

    He looks more mature and less baby-faced than Welling.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 1:32 a.m. CST

    And the rest . . .

    by jocutus

    Could these rumours be true? Topher Grace as Jimmy? He's a year older than Routh, so I guess he won't be the youthful cub reporter/ phtographer. Perhaps he'll be Clark's mentor at The Planet. And Mischa barton As Lois?? I know, I know, everyone thinks she looks older than she is, but she's only 18 or so, right?? It's just hard to look at this rumored cast and not compare to the Smallville cast.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 1:34 a.m. CST

    Before anyone trots out the tired old lie about the "Superman Cu

    by KingKrypton

    Let's a take a look at the facts, shall we? Since 1940, Superman has been played by the following men: Ray Middleton (public appearances), Bud Collyer (voice actor), Michael Fitzmaurice (voice actor), Kirk Alyn (live-action), George Reeves (live-action), Bob Holiday (Broadway), David Wilson (TV musical), Danny Dark (voice actor), Rev. Charles Chandler (public appearances), Christopher Reeve (live-action), Beau Weaver (voice actor), John Haymes Newton (live-action), Gerard Christopher (live-action), Dean Cain (live-action), Tim Daly (voice actor), Christopher McDonald (voice actor), George Newbern (voice actor), Patrick Warburton (voice actor), Tom Welling (live-action), Michael O'Hearn (live-action fan film), Paul Hasenyager (live-action fan film) and Scott Cranford (public appearances and live-action fan films). Of this entire group

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 1:36 a.m. CST

    And speaking of the Superman legacy, here's a tribute pic from t

    by KingKrypton

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 2:27 a.m. CST

    What's The Point?

    by Napoleon Park

    Hey, I'm lazy and my obsolete computer is a piece of junk, so maybe it's just me. But why do people post links here that don't work? And why don't links work here? And really, what's the point of this article unless you post a picture of the guy or at least a link or two to a picture or two? Sure, like I'm going to remember the guys name is Braden Rousch by the time I get out of here and over to Google. ***** Oh, and "Latino Review"? I thought Superman was Hawaiian and Lana Lang was Japanese.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 2:50 a.m. CST

    Man, was I worried...

    by DoctorWho?

    Clicked over to this guys website for photos, fingers crossed. Boom! Singer nailed it...this kid does have the look! Very mature look for his young age. How old was Reeve when he took the role?? If there's one thing Bryan knows is actors...he's worked with the best! I have no doubt this kid's got the chops to do it.Bryan knows looks alone don't mean shit. Anybody else getting that butterfly in stomach excitement this could actually be headed toward something special? Kinda like when we knew Jackson owned LOTR and wasn't gonna drive it off a cliff. Bryan Singer...lead the way baby!

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 2:52 a.m. CST

    Once the WB starts micro-managing his film, Singer will rue the

    by FrankDrebin

    Rue it, I say! Anyway, it's a good start castingwise. They can get the big names for the supporting roles. And a cameo for Terrance Stamp.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 3:17 a.m. CST

    Pics of Brandon Routh as Superman

    by martydmc12

    Has anybody even bothered to check Brandon Routh's official website? There are two pics of him dressed as Clark Kent/Superman from Halloween 2003. Is it me, or do I find this not to be a coincidence?

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Holy Shit

    by ryLRci

    If they hire Mischa Barton, this film will be ruined. She is an awful actress with no charmisa, no charm, and no grace. And this is coming from an OC fan. She's pretty much the only one that could fuck up this cast. Topher as Jimmy would be a perfect fit and anyone but that dumbass James Caviezal for Supes looks good. Especially this guy- who reminded me of Reeves at his Superman age. Just please, Singer don't hire Mischa.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Screw You All

    by SpeedOfStupid

    I almost never post on this AICN, mostly because I hate almost everyone else who posts on this board, but I am a HUGE Superman fan, and I have this to say........ Anyone who says Singer shouldn't be in charge of this is or that there is a better director out there to pick the next superman, isn't really a fan of comic books in general or Superman, and thus should keep their mouth shut about this project. There is only one real Superman, and tragically, we just lost him. But if there is ever anyone to pick somone to have the knowledge and fortitude to pick somone who is worthy enough to pretend he's Superman, it's Singer. So if this really is the guy he's picked, which I'll believe when I see, then this is the guy to play the part.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 3:33 a.m. CST

    And another thing.........

    by SpeedOfStupid

    I've seen way to many people talk about how they don't like Superman as a charecter. I respect everyone's opinion and I can see where you're coming from about the whole "He's too infalible and he's too good and he has to few weaknesses" argument, but here's the truth. Superman is the biggest Icon is comics, today or ever. There is no denying that fact. And any movie based on him, no matter how good it is, will make ungodly amounts of money. This being primarily a movie sight, I don't understand why anyone would try to say this movie shouldn't be made. The only reason any STUDIO has ever made a movie is to make money, and this has the potential to make more money than Goddamn Titanic. But aside from that, Superman is an Americna icon who hasn't been on the silver screen for almost two decades, and dammit, he deserves another go. And I, like most REAL movie/comic book/ Superman/ non-asshole fan belive that Bryan Singer is fully capable of making a very good movie about the greatest charcter in American culture in the last 100 years.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 3:37 a.m. CST


    by SpeedOfStupid

    I'm sort of drunk, so any spelling or grammer errors I made in my last two posts should be attributed to one man and one man only, and his name is Captain Morgan.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 3:48 a.m. CST

    I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt

    by caerlas

    I trust Singer more than I distrust him. I was 90% satisfied with X-men's casting. (I didn't care for Halle Berry, shoulda gotten someone with more Africa in her). Anyhoo, he looks the part, where did he go to school? Probably not a Juilliard alum like Reeve at any rate but there's other good schools out there. Anyone care to dig up the dirt? I'm lazy.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 4:06 a.m. CST

    Case in Point.......

    by SpeedOfStupid

    I spelled grammar with and E and I repeated the same line once or twice in these talk backs. I told you I was drunk. But My opinions about Bryan Singer and Superman still stand. Also, Jim Caviesel(SP?)would make a perfectly acceptable Superman if the script was right, so don't get all pissy just because somone somewhere suggested he may in some universe play this charecter. I know there's almost a 99.999% chance that he deffinatly won't play him, and I don't care. I like him just fine, I also like Tom Welling and this dude we're discussing in this particular artical. But I also know the perfect Superman has already played the role, contributed way more than any movie role could ever live up to, and then untimley passed on, and that the next best thing is almost certainly still out there somwhere waiting to be found. Having said that, if Singer did cast Jimmy C., this new dude, or that Welling guy, I would still be happy with his decision.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 4:11 a.m. CST

    he looks too young!

    by ZeroCorpse

    Damn. 25 years old? He's supposed to be SuperMAN, not SuperFratboy. I'm depressed, but then my expecatations weren't very high- After all, this IS a WB movie.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 4:25 a.m. CST

    Reeve was 24. Routh just turned 25.

    by Batgirl

    From Routh's 2003 Superman Halloween costume, Routh seems to have matured into a mature young man. What's wrong with that? He has no baby face, he has a strong jaw, and he's tall.

  • Believe.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 4:41 a.m. CST

    Superman has a beer and cheets on his husband

    by F-1000

    Boy, after this news I can't wait for the Singer version, oy. /sarcasm off

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 4:45 a.m. CST

    Zionism rules!!

    by F-1000

    Doesn't Routh look almost semitic? Haha, gotta give Singer props for getting an almost Jewish looking Superman but if he's going that route I'd rather have Adam Goldberg. (The Hebrew Hammer pwns j00!!) At least we know that guy can act. In all honesty though, Routh looks like ass, but if he can act I'm good with it. X2 is arguably the best super hero movie ever, The Usual Suspects was beyond clever, let's hope his ditching X3 was for good reason (though I'll never forgive him)

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 4:48 a.m. CST

    Doesn't Harry seem a little jealous in his article?

    by F-1000

    I think Harry is nitpicking because he didn't scoop this one. Not that it's a surprise, AICN goes forever without updates now. DarkHorizons and LatioReview had this article out within like minutes of each other, it's not polite to post another person's scoop on your site and then nitpick their article regarding trivial things. (If they had said Tom Welling was the first Superman obviously that would be worth correcting.) Where have ethics gone?

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 5:42 a.m. CST


    by SpeedOfStupid

    Here's the only problem I have with Tom Welling in this movie. If they cast him, that means this would probably a "Smallville" movie, meanining it would follow the storyline of the show. The problem with that is, a Superman movie needs to be about SUPERMAN, not the Clark Kent we've come to Know in Smallville. Because, as good as that show is, it isn't really about the Superman we all grew up with and love, and that's the guy who needs a new movie about him. Because let's face it, the last movie that guy has had devoted to him was SuperMan IV, wich had it's problems. If Welling were to play Superman in a movie about Superman, I'd be all for it, but it seems like a lot of people want him to be in a movie about the Clark Kent who appears every weeek on the WB, wich isn't what we need right now in a movie.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 5:42 a.m. CST

    that's "baby" ruth, harry..

    by scrumdiddly

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 5:54 a.m. CST


    by SpunkyMcnugget

    speedofstupid is an annoying poorly opinionated asshole

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 6:26 a.m. CST

    Fist Post

    by SpeedOfStupid

    Saying I hate most of the people on this board was just plain wrong and I apoligize to anyone who may have actually been awake late enough to read it. I acutally like discussiing opions with other people about projects like this, so anyone who has something to say is alright with me. And since this is my forth or fith post on this string alone, I will now resing until antother topic springs forth that I am interested in.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 6:28 a.m. CST

    by SpeedOfStupid

    Resing, dammit, resign. stupid typos.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Routh! Ruth! Routh! Baby? Routh!

    by Osmosis Jones

    Hey you guuuuuuuuys.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 8:45 a.m. CST

    An unsuccessful TV actor?

    by Desk

    I would have been more ready to accept an unknown if he was in the mould of Hugh Jackman - a very accomplished, experienced stage actor who had so far restricted his career to the theatre, and therefore wasn't that well known to the general public. But Routh? He doesn't have the great classical theatrical training that Christopher Reeve brought to the role, and his stage credits are unremarkable. He's a TV actor, and not a particularly successful one at that. Ironically, as the lead in a top-rated network drama series Smallville actor Tom Welling is much more qualified to take the role, and at only two years Routh's senior has a lot more experience in front of the camera. I wonder how the general public is going to adapt to the notion of essentially swapping "like for like," especially when Routh's association with the character has not been firmly embedded in the public's consciousness like Welling's has, and when he can be easily viewed as an inferior alternative. Certainly, my anticipation of this project has dropped to near zero.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Truth, Justice And The American Way

    by Dog Of Mystery

    Just replace Superman's 'S' symbol with a swastika and it'll be perfect!

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 8:57 a.m. CST

    by Desk

    BTW, the fact that Routh was "let go" from a daytime soap opera, One Life to Live, and his character recast does not generate a great deal of faith in his talents or star-quality.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 9:05 a.m. CST want nitpiks...

    by Falcon-1

    Actually Harry, aside from the mistaken date of Chris Reeve's death, Latino's article has been more accurate regarding Superman than anything I've seen posted on your site in over a year. Latino's article said George Reeves was ONE of the original silver screen stars, not THE original silver screen star. I understand that you may be bitter for getting scooped on this one; but, if the story turns out to be true, give Latino Reivew some props and don't look for stuff to criticize them on. It makes you a smaller man without the gastric bypass surgery.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 9:32 a.m. CST


    by stlfilmwire

    Enough said.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 9:34 a.m. CST


    by Eshu

    like Christopher Reeve in that Halloween photo! One thing I can

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Harry, you misunderstood the latino review

    by afa

    They didn't say that Christopher Reeve died on 9th, they said he fell into a coma on the 9th (which is true) and later died; and they said George Reeve was "one of" the original Supermans, not THE original. So your nitpicking was out of place.

  • Watch the documentaries of the Superman special edition DVD. Tells you all you need to know about Chris Reeve and how they liked his tryouts with Kidder which nailed the part instantly. The tryouts are on the documentary. You can see Reeve does nail the part with that little "hop" like it was meant to be. Spooky. Reeve was 24 but pretended to be Superman at 30 after the 12-year education in the Fortress of Solitude. At least Donner didn't try to "improve" it like Luca$ does. Hopefully, with recent events things will get rolling for Donner to be able to put out his version of Superman II finally.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 9:55 a.m. CST


    by Eshu

    God, what a horrible show!

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 10:04 a.m. CST

    "he's definitely a 'babe' of a man"?

    by mascan


  • Oct. 17, 2004, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Mischa Barton as Lois Lane? Happy day!

    by Silver_Joo

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Smallville: The Movie?? Not Necessarily...

    by oh_riginal

    In order for a Smallville movie to be made, not only would Tom Welling be needed, but also the SAME writers from the show, producers, co-stars, even special effects and maybe even one of the Smallville directors. ONLY THEN would it really be a Smallville: The Movie situation. Tom Welling alone would not turn it into Smallville: The Movie. A storyline would have to continue directly from the show to the movie. None of this is necessary, as a Superman movie could easily star Tom Welling without even referencing events in the Smallville show. Continuity could be preserved without making Smallville viewing a pre-requirement.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 10:48 a.m. CST

    It looks like they're going for the Reeves look of the first fil

    by TheGinger Twit

    Personally, I'm all for a muscle bound long haired sexy man pretty boy - with real charm and charisma.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 10:49 a.m. CST

    You guys are blind...

    by Batutta

    This guy looks perfect. Bulk him up, give him the do and the tights and he'll be great. Chris Reeve was a skinny twerp when Donner cast him, but he was whipped into shape and look what happened. I like this guy's look, especially with the Clark Kent glasses. I remember you all bitching when Singer cast Jackman as Wolverine, and look what happened.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 11:22 a.m. CST

    It's always about Mischa! MISCHA MISCHA MISCHA!!!

    by Hung-Wei Lo

    Sorry 'bout that.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Get an older guy...

    by Gilkuliehe

    Or make this guy look older. And I'm not sure, but I've always wanted to see COURTNEY COX as Lois...

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 12:27 p.m. CST

    He's on GILMORE GIRLS on Wednesday if you wanna get a look at hi

    by ZepRosnepsid

    According to imdb he's in episode 1.13 of Gilmore Girls which is scheduled to show on Wednesday on the Family Channel where it's in syndication. I don't know how big his role is in the episode but imdb says he's in it. So, If you wanna get a look at him. I know I do.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 12:31 p.m. CST

    I don't want Singer's first choice for Superman ... I want his b

    by riskebiz

    Dougray Scott was Singer's choice for Wolverine ... not Hugh Jackman. Jackman was a backup choice. Can anyone honestly look at Dougray Scott and see Wolverine?! No. It's only providence that Scott had to drop out to finish MI2 and Jackman was forced to step in. That's not casting genius, that's casting dumbluck._____ So ... am I excited about this Brandon Routh as Kent/Superman? Not really. Singer is has only been lucky when casting a (relatively) unknown. I still prefer Cavaziel. At least Cavaziel looks a bit like Christopher Reeve and can play Kent (most important) and an icon like Superman.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Baby Ruth has Brown Eyes, not Blue

    by TodayzSpecial

    I just hope they give this guy some blue contact lenses. I also hope Parker Posey is cast as Lois Lane.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Also ... wasn't this Brandon Routh one of McG's top 3?

    by riskebiz

    I'm pretty sure he was.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 1:02 p.m. CST

    So Casting a guy 2 years younger than

    by topaz4206

    So Casting a guy 2 years younger than Tom Welling, who looks like his fraternal twin.... WHAT'S THE POINT? I have seen about 80 episodes of Smallville, and although the scripts have disappointed me several times, Tom never has.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 2:44 p.m. CST


    by bobby_horsepower

    He looks the part, no doubt about it. When I see he can act, then I'll be impressed. As for Tom Welling as Superman, not a chance. Tom Welling is an excellent Clark Kent, but not Superman. That is all.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 2:53 p.m. CST

    George Reeves was born, ONE of the original silver screen Superm

    by DannyOcean01

    Helps to read the article before you comment Harry.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Superhero Hype confirms Routh casting

    by Batgirl Hooray! Best of luck to Routh!

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 2:59 p.m. CST

    "Excellent Clark Kent..."

    by topaz4206

    "Tom Welling is an excellent Clark Kent, but not Superman." WTF? Clark Kent "becomes" Superman as soon as he realizes all of his powers and his origin. After that, it doesn't matter how he's dressed, HE'S SUPERMAN. Welling on Smallville has DONE ALL OF THAT, heat vision, telescopic vision, strength, and yes he even FLEW the other day, and it was SWEET. I love the old Donner movies as much as the next guy, but I don't get the Welling-hate.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Somewhere Matthew Bomer is crying

    by somethingreal81

    You've gotta feel bad for him. Last year he was thisclose to landing the role, but didn't get it, in part, because the studio wanted a name like Brendan Fraser. Now they've gone and given it to some other unknown soap actor. Poor guy.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Smallville, X3 and Galactica

    by Wormie

    Seeing as the whole point of Smallville is that it leads up to Clark becoming Superman and Lex turning evil, how will they end the show? If they show Welling putting on the cape for the first time in the final episode, how will they square that with the new Superman movie which will have a totally different cast and continuity? As for those people moaning about X-Men 3 without Singer - I think now that the franchise has successfully been established, there shouldn't be a problem finding another good director to take over. Fox deserved losing Singer because they forced him off the awesome-looking Battlestar Galactica sequel, which in turn led to the shitty remake being made.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Bryan Singer's Gay Overtones

    by zigmondsrh

    For those of you who do not know, Bryan Singer is gay. I know this because a close friend of mine went out on a few dates with Bryan long before X-Men but after Usual Suspects. If you analyze his movies, you will see various "coming out" overtones. Apt Pupil and Bobby from X-men to name a few. This Brandon fella sets off my gaydar and I bet thats one reason why Bryan cast him. He casts many gay actors in his films. I.E. Ian MacKellen.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 3:41 p.m. CST

    I just started watching Smallville...

    by tango fett

    and it was pretty good, except a few episodes seem like 7th Heaven with super powers, but that's nit-picking. Tom Welling would be a good Superman, but I guess this guy could do it. I really wish that Bryan Singer would just make an origin movie, clean the slate for some new stuff instead of continuing the old ones (like Batman Begins). And Harry's really being a nerdy asshole, ain't he, correcting all the little details they got wrong on the webpages. Well, I'm out...

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Why are they even making this movie?

    by somethingreal81

    I'm sorry, but why is this movie even being made? We've already got Smallville on the air every single week. Do we really need a competing Superman franchise? I'm really confused by Warner Bros. decision to go ahead with this movie. Didn't they kill the Bruce Wayne tv show because they didn't want it messing up their plans for a Batman movie? It seems especially pointless and confusing since they're apparently casting WB type actors in the roles--and, worse, casting actors to play adults in the movie who are actually younger in real life than the actors playing teens on the tv show.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Good choice!

    by Fugazi32

    Saw those pics of him, he'll suit the role...

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 4:13 p.m. CST

    you people are on some very good crack

    by Mr Brownstone

    the guy looks great.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Who in all of God's beauty and magnificence is this Brandon Ruth

    by screenplaywriter

    He looks and sounds like some schlameel you'd see paying bus fair, being some nerdy college campus guy, and lives with his parents because he's too afraid of going to live in a coed dorm. I thought for sure they were going to have the movie be like this for casting: Kevin Spacey, or Johnny Depp as Luthor. Superman-Brendan Fraser, or Jim Caviezel Lois Lane-A few ladies come to mind. Some hot, others "eh..." Jimmy Olsen-Justin Timberlake, Topher Grace, or Jimmy Fallon Perry White- The guy who played Zidler in "MOULIN ROUGE", or a bit of weird casting, but kind of cool would be R. Emrey that crazy drill sergeant from "FULL METAL JACKET." I'd pay money to see that! But for course I have my doubts that the cast will not be made up with those people. So fuck it! "BATMAN BEGINS" is where the real money-maker is at.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the scoop, zigmondsrh

    by I Dunno

    Singer's openly gay, that's not news. He doesn't wear it on his sleeve like Shumacker and his horrifically gay Batman films though. Besides, everyone in Hollywood is gay or Jewish, so who cares?

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 5:17 p.m. CST

    They could learn a lot from the Batman Begins casting

    by Judge Doom

    They hit the spot in ALL the actors. Now these dummies decide to get a generic Welling istead of te real one. Hope they don't fuck te rest of the players. Catwoman and FF already did that.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 5:28 p.m. CST

    I looked at all the pictures on this guy's site, and he looks mo

    by FluffyUnbound

    It may just be the way he was photographed, though. Hopefully he won't be flying around in the suit, shouting, "No! YOU'RE out of order!"

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 5:36 p.m. CST

    I know it shouldn't matter but...

    by drmidnite

    if this guy is gay imagine the press that it'll generate and the unintentional moments of hilarity my friends and I will have laughing at the unintentional gay dialogue of the Superman movie! Hey it happened with both X-Men movies and Lord of the Rings! P.S. They should of cast Tom Welling.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 5:49 p.m. CST

    "I remember you all bitching when Singer cast Jackman as Wolveri

    by Big Dumb Ape

    Actually, Butatta, the fans got LUCKY on that one because Singer's actual FIRST choice was Dougay Scott who would have been terrible. Thank goodness he ran off to do MI2 and that allowed Jackson to step in. As for this Routh guy, sure, he has a a chin and looks ok in glasses, but as someone noted before it's not a great sign that he was actually bumped off a freakin' soap opera NOT by death, but because the producers decided he wasn't working out and they recast the part. It says something when you're acting isn't good enough for a soap! And if he's the one, get him to a gym -- he may have a chin, but he's got no bulk!!!

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Gene Hackman was voted least likely to succeed in his actng clas

    by Mr Brownstone

    The fact that Routh got fired from a soap is a GOOD sign.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 5:59 p.m. CST


    by Waff

    This guy looks more like an older Tim Drake then Superman. "It's a bird, it's a plane... no, it is a bird. It's Robin the Boy Wonder! Why's he wearing Superman's outfit?"

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 6 p.m. CST

    Why not Welling?

    by fanboy71

    Okay, First I was REALLY pissed when I heard that Nicholas Cage was going to play Supes, and then REALLY excited to hear that he wasn't. The same goes for Tim Burton (The man who made Batman look like apussy)directing. The I was pissed again when I heard McG was Mcdirecting, but then happy when he wasn't. Bryan Singer didn't impress me with his casting of the X-Men either (Cyclops was too young, Jean was too old, and Wolverine was too tall), but ultimately I have accepted it, and have enjoyed the 2 X flicks. But why, oh why does he cast a grown up Clark Kent with a guy who is TWO YEARS YOUNGER than Tom Welling, who, in my opinion, does a great job as Clark on Smallville. Why not just wait another year (this is senior year on Smallville after all, and use that cast? It makes no sense. Besides, this guy does NOT look the part. It would be interesting to see him and Welling side by side, because I'm betting he wouldn't measure up.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Smallville vs. Film

    by Playhouse

    I'm as big a fan of Smallville as anyone. That's saying a lot considering I thought the show was hokey shit when I first saw it and was somewhat offended in the direction WB decided to go in to tell their teen Clark Kent stories. But it's grown on me and the inventive way the writers (supervised by one of comics' own powerhouses, Jeph Loeb) have included the mythos into the show is compelling. Sure, they don't always get it right. Sure, sometimes it's more hokey than when your mom used to bring cookies to your first grade class and all you wanted to do was hide in the bathroom. Sure, sometimes it is more of stretch than trying to reach for your toes when you can reach for the Hostess cupcakes easier. But they've created a world unto itself that completely respects and reveres its source material while not having to adhere to it. Smallville is a great show that has a universe of its own that does not need to be and doesn't belong in the film universe that WB is trying to create. They are two completely separate entities. I admit it's mystifying why WB wants to go ahead with a feature right now while Smallville is on the air. I know they want to capitalize on the popularity and revitalization of Batman Begins by having their other tentpole property up on the big screen. But they could've waited until Smallville finished its run. Not so that it would free up Tom Welling or the rest of the cast. Like I say, Smallville is its own universe that works independent of the filmic world. And while I'd love to see the Smallville characters down the road when they have become the adult characters we know so well (I'd especially love to see the fruits grown from the seeds of the relationship between Clark and Lois recently established on the show), that would feel more in line with a TV movie in the future not a feature film. But WB should've waited until Smallville was finished so that they didn't have conflicting properties in the public's eye. This Routh kid looks good for the role. And, at least in the picture LR has up, he has a certain Christopher Reeve quality to his face. Interesting that we still judge that as the benchmark for Superman and not the comic character itself. Haven't seen his acting ability, so I can't comment on that. But it is nice to see a Libra return to the role, after Kirk Allyn and Christopher Reeve. Libras embody truth and justice.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 8:33 p.m. CST

    IGN Interviews Jim Caviezel (October 14, 2004)

    by Declan_Swartz IGNFF: There have been rumors of you playing Superman and that you've already been signed. What's your side of this and are you interested in playing Superman? CAVIEZEL: Of course I'd be interested in playing Superman

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Despite posting the Caviezel interview excerpt, I wish this Sing

    by Declan_Swartz

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Hey Smallville geeks - which episodes were Christopher Reeve on?

    by Tall_Boy

    I heard the first one he's on, "Rossetta" was pretty good when Clark found out he was from Krypton and stuff. Do I got that right? Someone just give me a few highlight mythology episodes to DL. (or the ones with Reeve). Speaking of Superman, if anyone is in ONTARIO, Canada or anywhere where you get SPACE put it on there right now, they're showing a double-feature of Superman 1 & Superman 2. And they're showin Superman 1 in widescreen. (but Superman 2 in fullscreen, goddamnit.) Oh yah, KNEEL BEFORE ZOD! (PS - Bryan singer if you're reading this - make ZOD the movie. Screw Superman, we all know what we want to see)

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 9:41 p.m. CST


    by AttackingClone

    Did someone just say Elijah Wood is gay? "The whole worlds gone gay" "oooh be nithe"

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 9:47 p.m. CST

    ROTK EE trailer online!!!!!

    by Forestal It's great. The Mouth of Sauron is revealed!

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Hey Zigmondrsh...I DIDN'T KNOW SINGER WAS GAY...

    by DoctorWho?

    ...and frankly I don't give a shit. I haven't seen X-men lately, so just what the hell do you mean by "comming out" overtones concerning Bobby? I think your gaydar is working overtime dude. As for Ian MacKellen...sorry, not once have I picked up any gay "overtones" while watching him as MAGNETO! I know...spare me the "purple helmet jokes". And dude...dial down that gaydar of yours....jeez.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Bobby's coming out

    by somethingreal81

    in X2 is when he tells his parents that he's a mutant. The entire scene is supposed to be an allegory for a kid coming out of the closet. The parents are shocked and start trying to figure out why it happened and who's to blame. Bobby's mom even asks him, "Have you tried not being a mutant?" Try googling that line--every single page that comes up will talk about how it parallells a kid coming out as gay.

  • Oct. 17, 2004, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Well, we do!

    by ejcarter9

    ...even if they fudged a few details, but hey... we all do that. We call it a Michael Moorism.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Thanks Hacker, I totally forgot that scene.

    by DoctorWho?

    Duh. That was a good scene. Can't believe I spaced that.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 12:59 a.m. CST

    I Second the fact that most of you here are on CRACK!! This Rout

    by The Founder

    I can't believe some of you complaining b!tches!! Routh looks great, and his acting isn't on Welling level, and I mean that in a good way. I didn't see him on the soaps, but i remember the episode of Cold Case that he was on, and his acting was solid. I don't care I'm happy with him as Supes. As fore this gay thing, yeah McKellen is gay, but where in his portrayal of Magneto of their any hint of him being gay??? As far as I know Mckellen is the only gay guy that singer cast, so i don't know where this comes from that Singer casts all gay guys? Stupid people! I'm not even going to get into the Supes looking to Jewish, man you guys are petty.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 2:23 a.m. CST

    If you check Routh's filmography you will see he has guest-starr

    by Hell's Cigarette

    Dude, they should have just taken the prosthetic hair they spent $50 million in development dollars for Nic Cage, put it on Bruce's head, painted a big 'S' on the Batman & Robin Schumacher rubber batsuit with the nipples, put Bruce in it and called it good. This Routh guy looks like a Will & Grace Superman...oops, if you check Routh's filmography you will see he has guest-starred on W&G. I guess we know how Singer found him....

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 3:04 a.m. CST

    Routh dated Rachel Boston (American Dreams)

    by Batgirl

    That's right. Routh dated an actress named Rachel Boston some years ago. Check out Boston's imdb info.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Just cast Chris Evans and be done with it.

    by Cash Bailey

    And Bryan Singer has worked with the following gay actors: Sir Ian McKellen, Alan Cumming and Kevin Spacey (you know it's true). And that kid who plays Iceman looks a little fruity.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 4:14 a.m. CST

    Did you just say you "weren't a gay basher"?

    by DoctorWho?

    "...I can see Nic Cage more as Superman than this faggot"?? Uh...ya dude, maybe you DO have some issues there. And I don't think it's this gay "movement" that the media is "allowing" that "...makes u want to hate gay guys". Most likely, daddy used to spout off about... (insert southern accent here) "dem queers is takin' over" nonsense when you were growing up. I'd look there first as a possible source to your problem> LOOK, Supes is not gonna be flyin around in a pink cape and speaking with a lisp. Nor will we see him telling off Lex Luthor with a high finger snap and a circular head motion in the "you go girl" tradition. CHILL. BTW...anybody remember when Freddie Mercury used come out on stage in full Superman regalia on the shoulders of two muscle guys. CLASSIC FREDDIE! Don't won't be like THAT!

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 4:25 a.m. CST

    goddammit! nooooooooooo

    by DarthBakpao

    well, finally, caviezel, i'm not excited! brandon routh or whoever else, let him don the cape, just make the movie and be done with it, i'll still see the movie, but not as much anticipated as if it will be made with caviezel as the man of steel, which i think is worthy enough to replace the one and only christopher reeve. you know, i'd prefer to have bryan singer opted out rather than not to see caviezel as superman.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 4:41 a.m. CST

    this is anti-climax! i'm not happy .... and i'm not excited

    by DarthBakpao

    first, Bale as Batman, along with other great actors for batman begins, then McG's out, enter Singer .... i had high hopes when i heard singer was brought in to replace McG .... then i had higher hope knowing that Caviezel might be the man of steel .... and well, ... well fuck! this is an anti-climax, at least christopher reeve won't live long enough to see another generic pretty boyish actor to take over his mantle.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 5:02 a.m. CST

    maybe I'm confused but I just got the impression that the dude w

    by TheGinger Twit

    is this true or am i a cocksucker? Don't answer that. Incidently, if I am wrong and he was just offered the role and it didn't eventuate... the dude who played cyclops could be superman... unless he was the dude who played jesus, in which case he almost had the part... I'm so confused... how do i get out of this? Interesting that the story of superman is loosely a retelling of the jesus mytho

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 5:35 a.m. CST


    by F-1000

    Gayzilla, how about a nice cup of STFU. Seriously, this argument really comes down to the fact that Routh is a tool and most of the people here are only happy he was cast because they either didn't like Welling or Caviezel. This isn't an argument over gay rights, or semantics, or whether Routh looks Jewish. (If they're going Jewish go Adam Goldberg, for real.) It's about Singer's soon to be horrible casting decision and the fact that a horrible lead actor in a movie that hinges around the lead character (who is iconic), will surely fail. Let's look at the facts! He got kicked off a soap opera? How bad do you have to be to not make it in the soap world once you get a break? People with small roles can get recurring roles even if they can hardly speak English! As long as they can portray a character and express emotion! So this does not look good. As for the whole "gay" argument. No, being a bigot is not cool but I didn't see that dude use any expletives such as "fag" or go talking about how he'd like to kill all gays. If he doesn't like gays let him have his own damn belief system, it's AMERICA. I'm so tired of "ok ok, we can all be free and say whatever we want...UNLESS it's not popular to do so at the time." It's all about timing, thirty years ago it wasn't ok to be gay, it is now. Being gay would've never been accepted unless INTELLIGENT people decided to let free speech reign, how about you do the same or STFU. (For the record, before you LABEL me a bigot (keyword: LABEL) I watch football on Sunday with a room full of gay gays, I don't care what color or sexuality someone is as long as they're cool.)

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 5:37 a.m. CST


    by F-1000

    Yeah, I did read the same thing in that article. Maybe getting zapped by lightning or whatever screwed with that dude's memory, but no, he was not Cyclops. Or maybe he was misquoted.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 5:44 a.m. CST

    Last but not least.....

    by F-1000

    It is pretty pathetic when arguably two of the most recent (and most disliked) of all the actors who have played Superman: Dean Cain and Tom Welling-both look more like Superman does in the comics than Routh. The more I view his pictures the more he just doesn't look right for the role. I'm not a big Welling or Caviezel fan but Routh just doesn't fit. I'm going to go watch The Hebrew Hammer again and cry, if I would've known semitic Supermen were allowed I would've been advocating Adam Goldberg all this time. :-(.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 5:47 a.m. CST

    I still find it amazing people think X-2 is the greatest comic m

    by TheGinger Twit

    C'mon guys. The first one had a nice real feel to it. The second wasted charaters, bored with a go nowhere Wolverine backstory, That Xman jet was bullshit (hollow interior my arse) and that crash sequence and then remarkable rescue by Gandalph was so bloody contrived. Not to mention the powers the Xmen have now. These guys could destroy the world - more power to the governemnt wanting to keep them under control. The first film was the complete opposite of the second. Seriosuly, It's like Batman and Batman Forever. Batman Forever was a much more fun film. That magneto escape was cool though. Personally I'm glad singer wants out of it. Tell me seriosuly he tried hard making a great sequel. Oh one last gripe... Xaviour had the exact same fucking story arch in the second one as the first. Bull shit!

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 7:52 a.m. CST

    Character posters

    by F-1000

    All those FF character sheets remind me somehow of when 7 Eleven was promoting Super Mario Bros. the movie. Anyone remember that movie? Cept for John Leguizamo (sp?) Hopper and a bunch of lameness? Didn't think so. I thought it was cool for about a week when I saw it as a little kid, but seeing five minutes of it a few weeks ago almost made my eyes bleed. Yeah so anyway, FF is going to be seriously lame just wait. And if FF sucks Avi Arad will probably not be allowed to whore out movie adaptations of second string characters and we'll see barely any comic book movies except for maybe some of the "big four" - Supes, Bats, Spider-Man, X-Men. When a comic movie is based on a "second string" hero it HAS to be good or the public definitely won't give a crap. (I could care less about DVD sales they should not be included into box office figures so don't tell me how great The Punisher or whatever did on DVD, I don't care.) Thanks Avi Arad, for letting sub par comic book movies kill the genre. I don't mind that you're greedy and you wanna make as many comic book films as possible, but you could at least make sure the movies are good, thus securing the genre and a steady income for yourself.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 8:08 a.m. CST

    "I was more involved in the Frequency film than X-Men"

    by Judge Doom

    Yeah, nice move jesus. Not only you lost the chance of being in one great fracnhise but pissed of the director that could give you the part of your life.Dumbass________________________________________________________And I guess Wealing didn

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 8:32 a.m. CST

    I saw this guy on One Life to Live

    by Spikes Brain

    He's honestly kinda creepy-looking. He definitely has that Welling look--tall, thin, long dark hair, but strange eyes. Not much of an actor either. Hey, at least it's not Ashton Kutcher!

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Now is NOT the time for a Superman movie

    by Jeditemple

    The timing is horribly bad.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 9:54 a.m. CST

    It's bizarre how dumb Harry is

    by BiggestLarz

    Others have pointed it out, but the "mistakes" Harry pointed out are just reflections of Harry's poor reading comprehension skills. Go read the article for yourself, and you'll see why Harry is an ass. I don't fault Harry for making a couple of mistakes, but if I were going to be as smug about it as Harry, I would take the time to read what Latino Review actually wrote before accusing them of being mistaken (which they weren't). Harry Know-less indeed . . .

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Missing the Smallville/Welling connection such a wasted oppurtun

    by FuriousStyles

    "How long can clark stay in smallville?" Thats exactly why I think this film is the perfect chance to give the Smallville show a natural conclusion and Supes a great start on the big screen again................that doesnt mean the tone of Smallville need to be carried to films - just the established dynamics (Michael Rosenbaum is the easily best portrayal of Lex Luthor yet)..................Singer's got the right idea with keeping the tone mythical - but missing the Smallville tie in just seems like such a huge wasted oppurtunity.................Reeves passed the torch on to Welling aswell - seems to perfectly make sense to me

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 10:03 a.m. CST

    RE:ThaSithMaster, Dudue you're making my head hurt with all the

    by The Founder

    So you one uped me, big deal. I'm sorry, but i honeslty don't follow the personel lives of celebrities. I don't read those asinine entertainment books or watch shyt like Extra or ET. I just never cared for that crap. I knew McKellen was gay from the the way people b!tched about him in the 1st xmen. Could care less about Alan Cumming, heck I never followed that man career. As for Halle, Hugh, and Famke, who knows, i've never heard they were bi, but you know what I don't care. Don't know anything about this Routh's guy personel life, but I'm curious as to how the hell do you know he's gay? At any rate all this gay crap is giving me a headache. As far as i'm concerned if Routh is gay, then so the phuck what. I saw him in cold Case, and he didn't come across as a flaming queen, and nor did I get the impression that he was gay(if true). So he was on an episode of Will & Grace, again Big Deal. I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON A LIMB AND SAY THAT HE ISN'T GOING TO PORTRAY SUPERMAN AS A GAY CRIMEFIGHTER WITH A LIMP WRIST AND SNAPPING HIS FINGER. Look i'm not trying to offend gay people by being sterotypical, but the point I'm making is what's the big deal about this whole gay situation? some guys sends off a signal that they are fruity, but some don't. I'm not saying they are ashamed or whatever, but gay poeple come in different flavors and colors, and jeez i sound like a damn public service announcment promoting cultural tolerence. Just Drop the whole gay issue, Routh has been cast, and he was already mentioned before singer signed on to direct, so it's not like Singer went out looking for him, in fact I'm willing to bet that WB had him already as a top contender, and this may all be for naught cause Warners hasn't announced that he's officially Supes.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 10:14 a.m. CST


    by stlfilmwire

    Watch LAX tonight to get a look at a decent Lois. If only Warner Bros would understand that Lois needs to be attractive AND a tough/head strong. If she looks like an artificial looking model-type, it will be a casting failure.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Supergirl = Catwoman

    by stlfilmwire

    Can you say crap?

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 10:38 a.m. CST

    I just want Supes to be done right...

    by Lost Skeleton

    ...I feel confident about Singer (his X-Men filsm are great). Let's hope we got our big blue so we can get this thing rolling. On a side note, I really respect Singer because he has the same love for Donner's Supes that I have...I think this can work!

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Blundetto, you fooled me!

    by jim

    I don't know why I expected more but I checked out that picture hoping for the best. But what should I have expected? After all, even side by side, I have a hard time telling which is Mr. Fantastic and which is the Human Torch. But I have to say, that does look like a very nice suit Doom is wearing.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Who is the casting moron???

    by Packin_Beef

    Singer will probably be fine. Casting? Tom Welling is perfect for the part...just needs to buff up for the "man" movie. Why go elsewhere? It would be a perfect transition....Smallville to the big screen. Also, let's drop the goddam Lex Luther villain. Gene Hackman ruined this character and I'm friggin' sick of it in every Superman adaption. Let's bring back Lex Hackman's bumbling sidekick....NOTT! There's plenty of other villains to choose from! Any T&A actress can play Lois, so she doesn't even matter. In fact, how about Tom Welling for President of the United States! Anything would be better than Bush or Kerry.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 12:33 p.m. CST

    LOIS is not T&A

    by stlfilmwire

    She needs to be a tough cookie. Sure, cast another hottie as another one of Clark's office workers... but Lois needs to be tough first... attractive second. Having Clark lust after Lois just because Lois looks like a Jessica Biel would be a horrible mistake. We'd lose sight of their relationship.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 12:51 p.m. CST

    Darkhorizons has confirmed this

    by keyserSOZE

    Brandon Routh is locked in as Superman, it will hit the trades early next week, according to Garth.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 2:13 p.m. CST

    to all the homophobes in here...

    by joe brady

    ... eat a dick.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Tom Welling for Howard the Duck

    by Hud

    Speed of Stupid, your ignorance is staggering. The best-known superhero of all times, including the future, is Pogo Possum. Kindly remove yourself from this planet immediately.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Hollywood gone light in the loafers?

    by KryptonsLastSon

    Yeah I suppose... not many people know but Vin Diesel is too.... He dated his personal trainer for a while, but come on you could tell by looking at him and how he acts that he was, couldn't you?

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Did you know your dad is gay?

    by BlackHarryPotter

    Mind isn't but WTF. The Talk Back on this site is hilarious. I hope Brian Singer has a good sense of humour. Being gay is not a big deal. Being a total f**king idiot is though. I do however think that there is a lot of gay appeal to the Superman mythology, and a lot of comic-geeks had their first sexual awakening when reading Superman comics; secretly lusting after a muscle-bound god in blue tights, but telling their geeky friends it was legitimate art they were wasting their money and youth on. I do however wonder if Jo(r)el Shumacher couldn't have a crack at the Superman movie. After all, he came close as he could to 'outting' Batman in his movies (oh come on! Even the Joker has hinted in Arkham Asylum that he knew Batman's real secret - and it wasn't that he knew he was Bruce Wayne! Hanging around in with pre-pubescent boys in silky yellow capes, speedos and masks! Then there's the metaphor for 'the bat-cave! "Filthy degenerate!") SO what a camp-athon Batman vs. Superman would have been in Shumachers nail varnished hands! The brooding Dark Knight in constricting rubber suit, tormented by his sexuality, only for the Gay God himself 'Superman' to show him truth and sexual justice in the All-American way. Together they sodomise all their arch-villians with krypton dildos and save the gay day!!! P.S. Your mom's gay too!

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 5:28 p.m. CST

    This is so fucking entertaining!!!!!!

    by Barry Egan

    Seriously, there is virtually nothing more entertaining than the talkbacks on this site when they are about casting major roles in alleged geek films. Some of these comments are unintentional comic gold! Did anybody here actually sit in on the audition process? If not, then shut the hell up. Leave the casting up to the actual professionals. I remember just mere weeks on this sight people were blasting Chris Evans as the Torch simply because they had never heard of him before. People actually said they wanted Paul "Mr. Personality" Walker to play the part. Then "Cellular" comes out and people realize that Evans is charsmatic and will probably be very good in the part. It must turn out that those professional casting directors actually know how to do their fucking jobs! There are talkbacks here even suggesting Evans for Superman! What a difference a few weeks can make. Oh, and Singer has totally used X-Men as a gay analogy. "Have you tried not being a mutant?" But who cares??? It's 2004.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 5:42 p.m. CST

    B.J. Routh???

    by young1

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 5:43 p.m. CST


    by young1

    Superman's new face is a guy named B.J.? This world is more gay by the minute.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 6:13 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah...

    by stlfilmwire

    Whatever! Like some Julliard guy named Christopher who likes to ride ponies is a manly Superman profile. Who cares. Give the guy a break. I am just glad it isn't Brendan Frasier, or Jake G.

  • And his Superman likes to fly Jimmy Olson to the North Pole, where Jimmy's tainted buttocks is his Fortress Of Solitude. You know this to be true.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 8:59 p.m. CST


    by flossygomez

    Who cares? Another superhero movie. another thinly veiled gay fetish video. It's that simple. Getting quite the pup tent. Bring it on.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 9:03 p.m. CST

    windsor and windex

    by joe brady

    please don't talk with your mouths full.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Vikings and Supermen

    by flossygomez

    It has nothing to do with homosex...when supermen and vikings get together we hump each other like the superior race we are. We screw like vikings, a thing to be proud of!

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 10:24 p.m. CST

    not anti-gay?

    by joe brady

    You could've fooled me, sweetie. I would say, Mace, that it's not about gays "hiding" in straight institutions waiting to take over, but rather about gay people trying to fit in and partake of a little equality without enraging the paranoia-stricken mongoloids who would prefer to see all homosexuals flamin' it up on Broadway or leading each other along San Francisco streets by studded leather leashes. You know, where they belong. Forgive me, but I've heard a hell of a lot more about deluded Fundamentalist Christians trying to convert homosexuals back to the straight side than the other way around. It's not a choice, man. Straight people can't be "converted" to the other team, or vice versa. Oh, and not that it should matter, but I'm straight as an arrow. You'd think after all the gay propoganda I've been subjected to over the years, that might have changed. It's clearly having an effect on you.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Aw, but I only have eyes for you, Windsor.

    by joe brady

    Your name's so aristocratic... are you rich, by any chance? Mama always told me to marry up.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 11:32 p.m. CST

    What's up with all you people?

    by w_woody

    Okay, if this kid is the new Superman I'm dissapointed. I have faith in Singer after the way he handled X-men and very realistically brought it to the big screen. However, even though I'm a fan of the 70's films...I really really wanted to see something special...not a re-hash of the same thing. I would much rather see a movie where they went back to the source material and tried to live up to that. I loved all the Reeve's films...but I've seen them already and just picking up where Superman 1V left off is just plain disheartening.

  • Oct. 18, 2004, 11:55 p.m. CST

    you're welcome, mace.

    by joe brady

    I think you're serious about this. You really do consider homosexuality an insidious force, threatening the purity of young people everywhere? It's a naturally occurring thing, like having green eyes instead of blue. I've seen both X-Men movies a few times apiece, and The Usual Suspects at least 50 times, yet here I sit at home, arguing with people on the internet instead of drinking cosmos downtown at the Gay '90s. I disagree with you, man, but neither of us is going to convince the other that we're wrong, so... peace be unto you.

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah, didn't mean to take credit for that...

    by joe brady

    Sorry, moviemack, I'm perfectly willing to drop the subject altogether. Now let's talk some more about how hot and smart I am.

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 12:45 a.m. CST


    by DoctorWho?

    I'm a bit out of the loop, but PLEASE, someone tell me they're not planning to put SUPERGIRL in this movie! Someone said something about casting Supergirl...hope I'm mistaken. And when this movie comes out and Singer and Routh kick all your homophobe asses with a great Superman flick (not the greatest...just great) then you'll have no place to hide. Anyway, set me straight on this Supergirl thing.

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Having been missing for 6 years, this SuperMAN returns as a Supe

    by DarthBakpao

    gee... i want Jim Caviezel dammit!

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 1:36 a.m. CST

    It's obvious "how" Routh got the job

    by F-1000

    Brandon B.J. Baby Routh? Come on.

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 2:54 a.m. CST

    I knew they would screw this up...

    by andrew coleman

    and they did!!! If this is true casting, this movie is doomed. If they did this they should have just casted Sam L. Jackson as Superman because at least that would have been cool, this is just lame

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 3:13 a.m. CST

    Gay Bar Superman

    by Dr Farragammo

    I love Singer and his work on the xmen, and I'm certainly miffed about him doing supes and not finishing a 3rd xmen. I also know he is openly gay and that should be respected and not be a factor as to his intelligence or talent. Having said that, it looks like he just picked up some dude in a gay bar and cast him as supes! Am I wrong? Just doesn't seem very inspired. But we all lambasted Jackman and he made the role his own , so I won't say all is lost.But I want a badass who can fly, not a freefaller from Manhunt!

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 3:19 a.m. CST

    Sneak Peek

    by ChicYoung

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 5:49 a.m. CST

    I don't think I could watch a gay Superman!

    by PaddyIrishman

    I know I'm really late replying. But, I've been pondering it for the last day since I heard the news... and well, if Brandon is Gay(And there's no evidence to say he is) I just don't think I could watch a Gay Superman. I just don't think the chemistry would work between him and whoever they cast as Lois Lane, or maybe it's just the fact that when Sup's and Lois are together onscreen I just won't be able to get it out of my head. It would be like casting Sloth from the Goonies and casting Salma Hayek as his love interest. I just think you'd have to stretch your imagination a bit too far to enjoy the movie.

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Aaah! Paul W.S. Anderson Pens "Alien 6"

    by Cyberfury

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 1 p.m. CST

    some pictures of Routh here

    by Cyberfury

    Although I despise the gay bashing on Talkbalk, I think in the end this is a good thing. Much like Superman and a lot of Gay Men Some of the TalkBackers are really showing their true colors. I guess all the stereotypes we here about the US overhere are true; the most narrowminded people on the planet. IMO, It could have been worse (Dude needs a pair of blue lenses though). Let the whining, bitching and Singer backstabbing commence. Be a real man and stay home come 2006.

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Truth, Justice, and the Gay-American Way!

    by Immortal_Fish

    That's now a hyphen, thanks to McGreevy. Look, the sexual orientation of the director or actors shouldn't matter. And that's the whole point. As zigmondsrh pointed out, Singer has had a hard time separating his personal drama with what he puts on-screen. While it was conducive to X-Men pathos in part, Singer made the mistake of putting homosexuality at the very core of the subtext. This denigrated Kirby's original premise for the X-Men, an allegory for equal rights. Homosexuality should be considered a part of that, not a drop-in replacement for it. While I couldn't care less if everyone involved in the making of Supes is of that persuasion, a homosexual subtext has no place in the film. The movie should be filled with golly gee and whiz-bang moments presented in old school Spielberg fashion. It doesn't need to be a civic lesson. I don't want a brooding Superman. And with Singer at the helm, we're guaranteed an effeminate Olson at the very least. Routh looks great. I hope the thruths behind his soap firing aren't major.

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 10:20 p.m. CST

    I'm thuper, thanks for asking!

    by F-1000

    You mean Thhhhuuuuuppppppeerrrrman!

  • Oct. 19, 2004, 11:20 p.m. CST


    by Batgirl

    Movies - Variety Variety Singer buffs up next choice for Superman Tue Oct 19, 7:10 PM ET Add to My Yahoo! Movies - Variety Cathy Dunkley, STAFF Bryan Singer appears to have found his Man of Steel. Though a deal has not yet been inked, relative unknown Brandon Routh is expected to take on the role of Superman for the long-in-the-works feature. Singer and his crew are headed to Australia next month to begin production. Routh's credits include "One Life to Live," "Gilmore Girls," "Will & Grace" and "Cold Case." He recently wrapped his first feature role in "Deadly," starring opposite "That '70s Show" star Laura Prepon. Routh, 25, was raised in Norwalk, Iowa, just 100 miles south of Woolstock -- the hometown of TV's original Superman, George Reeves. Josh Hartnett (news) was at one time in contention for the role but rejected an offer from then-director Brett Ratner. Matt Bomer was Ratner's next choice, but the studio rejected "The Guiding Light" star. When McG came on the project, he shot test footage with candidates including Jason Behr (news), Henry Cavill and Jared Padalecki.

  • Oct. 24, 2004, 1:09 p.m. CST

    enough with the homophobic bullshit


    Superman is supposed to have BLUE EYES. this guy doesn't, that's all you need. keep all the lame gay conspiracy crap to yourselves.