Sept. 12, 2004, 1:08 a.m. CST
by Spaz Medicine
just a hunch
Sept. 12, 2004, 1:08 a.m. CST
by deadend dropout
first, now shut up
Sept. 12, 2004, 1:36 a.m. CST
by santos kauffman
Deadend dropout: your a good guy. Herc: Michael C. Hall plays DAVID Fisher. For some reason Alan Ball thought they should give him a different name within the show. And is SFU only 12 episodes this season? I thought there were still two left? Fuck.
Sept. 12, 2004, 2:04 a.m. CST
The most realistically annoying depiction ever, too. No thanks.
Sept. 12, 2004, 3:12 a.m. CST
Sept. 12, 2004, 3:50 a.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
I think the scene in the preview where Nate is talking to someone off-camera about what happened to Lisa at the beach is a dream sequence.
Sept. 12, 2004, 4:14 a.m. CST
Seriously, Herc, i am with you on almost every Television judgment you make and i share your love for all things Whedon, but did you have to bash The Shield, Nip/Tuck, and Rescue Me?? I mean, i think i just lost respect for you man... Trust me, i know of the wonder that is HBO programing and how it is some of the greatest television ever produced, but what does that have to do with FX?? Next to HBO, the only TV shows i bother watching anymore are the brilliant FX programs!! The Shield needs no defense from me being that it is consistantly better, IMHO, than Sopranoes has been for like 2 seasons. Nip/Tuck i just recently got into, and i regret not catching it since the beginning. And as for Rescue Me, I believe this is the best new show of 2004 next to HBO's Deadwood... so lay off of FX, ok Herc? So i can regain my respect for a fellow Whedon enthusiast... Supermonkey out!
Sept. 12, 2004, 5:40 a.m. CST
"Entourage" is a snoring bore. If it weren't for Piven and the cameos, the show would be irredeemably hopeless. "The Shield" fucks "Entourage" up the ass and makes its ass bleed.
Sept. 12, 2004, 6:16 a.m. CST
by Junior Frenger
Now that would be something to see. Man he would whip the tar out of those spoiled rich dorks. Well I guess technically he already does. I mean really Herc Entourage wouldn't even be worthy of being The Shields bottom bitch. Everyone seems to know this but you. FYI The only decent Whedon show was Firefly. Rant all you want Fanboys, even if you like all his other crap you have to admit Firefly was the best thing he's ever done.
Sept. 12, 2004, 1:08 p.m. CST
Then again, I thought that about Six Feet Under when it first came out, and I was dead wrong. But the life and times of a Hollywood pretty boy doesn't seem particularly enthralling. Those people have no concept of reality; they live in a fantasy world as real as the movies they act in. That's why people are so interested when celebrities get in trouble. It's satisfying to see them knocked down to reality with the rest of us. But I'm going off into a tangent. The show looks like fluff, kind of like that show "The OC", which I refuse to watch because 1.) it's on Fox, 2.) it looks stupid, and 3.) I fucking HATE that song "California" by Phantom Planet, which I assume is the theme of the show because they play it whenever there is a commercial for it. The OC sucks. Yeah, I said it.
Sept. 12, 2004, 1:59 p.m. CST
I'm guessing SFU will go with: A) Billy killed Lisa for Brenda, or B) Lisa's sister was with her on the beach when she drowned and is too shamed to say something. Either way, it'll probably be well-acted but poorly written to match the rest of the current season. Oh, and "nip/tuck" is the best show on television, with "Rescue Me" not far behind.
Sept. 12, 2004, 2:12 p.m. CST
Glass houses and throwing stones, cousin.
Sept. 12, 2004, 2:53 p.m. CST
Herc has officially lost it. Calling three of the best shows "fluff" and praising Entourage (which started out mediocre but has gotten moderately better) because it's on HBO. Oh wait, forgive me. I should burn in hell for loving TV shows that occupy the same spot as Alias or Angel. Because we all know those are the only shows on the air.
Sept. 12, 2004, 3:13 p.m. CST
by Dr Farragammo
Is it just me or has 6 feet under been lacklustre this season. the most riveting episode was obvioulsy the carjacking one, and The Lisa ashes subplot is promising, but it just doesn't seem as good this year. Another thing that seems contrived:why do almost all the character have to have a gay experience? I mean claire, any straight guy that hangs around Keith too long,Billy,Russell,etc. I know Alan Ball (or at least I'm 90% sure) is gay, but it seems a bit much. Like he's trying to drive some point home a bit too hard. Entourage sucks ass. I've never seen a show, where I don't like 1 character. A bunch of spoiled little bitches and their rough road to fame.barf.And while I haven't watched rescue Me, the shield and nip/tuck are riveting,well done shows.
Dr Farragammo--Alan Ball is openly gay. I don't see most of the characters having a gay experience, though. Nate, Brenda, Rico, Ruth, Vanessa, George, etc. They've never had same-sex moments. Claire and her friends thing makes sense in context of her art college/experimentaion story (as cliched and boring as it is). Maybe if Ruth goes down on Kathy Bates' character...
Sept. 12, 2004, 4:06 p.m. CST
by Trader Groucho 2
Best one-liner slam of the year - Jeremy Piven's slimy agent meets actor boy's blonde vegan yoga-practicing screenplay-reading GF and as soon as she's out of earshot he says, "Yoko is macro-psychotic".
Sept. 12, 2004, 4:47 p.m. CST
These guys lives are not interesting.
Sept. 12, 2004, 5:15 p.m. CST
by Jim Jam Bongs
Lisa's family probably can't sue Nate over him not fulfilling their wishes for Lisa's remains -- he was his wife, after all, and probably has more say in this in a court of law. However, what Nate did -- burying Lisa out in the middle of nowhere -- may have been illegal, and may bring the state board in to investigate and, ultimately, take away his license. Same thing with David; the board may investigate whether David worked with Nate on this, and they may also look into his carjacking incident in which David was forced to dump a woman's body. The carjacking wasn't David's fault of course, but I could imagine the board asking why David was slacking off, wasting so much time with the carjacker (before the jacker turned on him), when he needed to deliver the body. I believe Alan Ball may be setting things up so the Fisher's lose their business by the end of the series' run; it matches the cynical, downbeat ending of "American Beauty": a flawed, lost protagonist who wants to do the right thing, and ultimately does, but gets fucked over by others who are asshole conservative types. Rico will probably get to keep his license and will then rent the house from Ruth, and the business will become only his. But Nate and David will have to go: They would be barred from working with Rico or at any funeral home.
Sept. 12, 2004, 6:53 p.m. CST
that means next sunday, when THE WIRE finally comes back to the streets...and guess who's back???? OMAR, MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!! And NOBODY FUCKS WITH OMAR!!!!!...And thus, I hope he brings back his tie! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!
Sept. 12, 2004, 8:50 p.m. CST
Ironically enough,just like all the FX shows Herc mentions,it kicks the living shit out the 2 weakest shows currently on HBO.SFU was decent for 2 seasons & Piven's the only reason to consider watching Entourage. Rescue Me has more laughs & drama in one episode than those two show's seasons combined. Enough 'bout that,though.I'm here to pimp EZ Streets. Check it out if for nothing else than seeing what kinda badass psycho Joey Pants can be playing a pre-Sopranos gangster.
Sept. 12, 2004, 9:52 p.m. CST
by Spaz Medicine
But I still have my killer ninja moves.
Sept. 12, 2004, 10:56 p.m. CST
yet I can't think of a better way to end it. This season was all over the map...best to just tie up what you can & move on...1-2 seasons left at most.
Sept. 12, 2004, 11:47 p.m. CST
Could someone explain the appeal of Curb Your Enthusiasm? I like Seinfeld as much as the next guy but I don't think I've ever laughed out loud at Curb. It's an amusing show, but one week is pretty much like any other. Larry David is kind of like a live action Ziggy, and I've never cared for the Ziggy strip.
Sept. 13, 2004, 12:56 a.m. CST
by Dr Farragammo
I love Curb your Enthusiasm, but I hated it at 1st. being a huge Seinfeld freak, I guess I was expecting magic right out of the box, but I knew beforehand Larry based george on him, but when you see larry, you almost get the feeling George was the GOOD side of Larry, because he is so obnoxious and grating. So I couldn't handle it after 2 episodes, and thought it sucked. So 2 years later my friend wont shut up about it, and he made me sit down and watch several episodes in a row. After a few minutes I was laughing so hard my stomach hurt. And what i realize is almost all of my favorite tv shows I hated when I first saw them. 24,6ft,Sopranos,Shield,even seinfeld. It's like I need a season to go by and the characters become more defined and they're more confident with the storyline. So give curb a chance, you'll be hooked eventually!
Sept. 13, 2004, 9:56 a.m. CST
by Goon Bighead
I also don't like how the series has moved away from the business of the funeral home which was a large part of the 1st 2 seasons.
Sept. 13, 2004, 2:15 p.m. CST
Look, I really like Entourage (especially Jeremy Piven. His character could get his own show). But 'The Shield' is waaaaaaaaay better. Hardly half-baked. As much as I dug Entourage, there isn't a character on the show with as much depth as the some of the supporting characters on The Shield. So screw that retarded opinion, Herc. I agree about Nip/Tuck though.
Sept. 13, 2004, 2:30 p.m. CST
by santos kauffman
I won't spoil anything either...but I will complain about how fucking precipitously this show has declined since late season three when Lisa disappeared (although I do disagree with the majority of fans who disparage season three as a whole - I think the first 8 or 9 episodes were stellar). Now that its been tied up, its fair to say that whole fucking arc was a debacle. The way the finale handled it - a few brief scenes to tie up such an important arc - was severely dissatisfying. Why not structure the episode so that all the other character's stories are over by the 35 or 40 minute mark, and give the Nate/Lisa scenario a good twenty minutes or half-hour? Disappointing.
Sept. 13, 2004, 4:23 p.m. CST
by Dr Farragammo
Claire was easily the biggest disappointment this year. What was once a character that any body who felt ostracised and different in high school, and who was arty and cool, has now become a character I just want to bitchslap. She has become so annoying and pretentious, and completely shitty to her friends. And now she's becoming a druggie, so she's becoming the very person she used to hate. I guess that's part of Alan ball's plan, but it is annoying as hell to watch.Plus her friends are annoying too, and completely unneccesary characters who do nothing to advance the plot. Mena Suvari's character was the kind of person I'd make fun of in college to her face, and show her what a hypocrite she is. Let's hope Claire gets back to earth next season.
Sept. 14, 2004, 6:17 a.m. CST
by Lezbo Milk
Everything about SFU comes out of left field, so for the Lisa plot to come to such a rapid and odd conclusion fits in with the shows overall character pretty well. I haven't been too interested in the Clair sub-plot, but now I think the ex-boyfriend may turn violent, and she's got the hots for Billy, and we all know what a freak lurks beneth the surface there. David and Keith's storyline needs to be spiced up a bit, it's just two gay guys being melodramatic, although the car-jacking episode was a frigging clasic. I've never been very interested in the mother. I do find her husbands descent into schizophrenia somewhat facinating. As far as the gay stuff in the series, I don't think it's to overdone. I mean the guy who created the show is gay, so his personal experiences are going to influence the show somewhat. No big deal. I think he does a pretty good job of not making the "gay" part the aspect that is supposed to be the most interesting. Everyone gets pretty hung up on sexual orientation, but thats not the real meat of the story...no pun intended. What makes the show interesting is what screwball shit happens to these people, and how diffenently they all deal with thier Twilight Zone experience that makes it an interesting series.
Sept. 14, 2004, 9:55 a.m. CST
So many wasted Sunday nights... Also, Billy looks like Peter Weller and Rachel Griffiths looks like Hedwig.
Sept. 14, 2004, 10:09 a.m. CST
by Homer Sexual
I was thinking he had made a big deal out of not being gay, but I'm not totally certain. Anyway, I don't think 6fu. is over-gay. Claire's whole thing was that she is just straight, and even if she tried to be otherwise, it wasn't gonna happen, which was a good point. I like Claire's character arc. Her success is a bit rapid, but I think her plotline is good. And I think David and Brenda is good, never into the whole Lisa thing. Must re-watch that section of the finale. And I think Ruth's plotline is good. And I think Rico's plotline is good. I have gotten tired of David the victim, though. And Keith the gay Mandingo, apparently set up for next season, is a bit much. I agree that the show was better the first seasons when the funeral home figured more prominently, but I think this show is still good and definitely improved over last season.
Sept. 14, 2004, 2:12 p.m. CST
by Dr Farragammo
But just the fact that Claire would even go back to Billy after all the weird shit he pulled, shows a dumbing down of her character. Plus getting rid of Arthur was a big mistake, he brought a level of comic relief back to the series. In the first 3 season there was so much more humor, I think we need it back. There was nothing like the paintball episode of last year, which was classic! I still like the show, but I used to LOVE it. The Sopranos got back on track this year, whereas the year before it was offkilter. I'm thunking this was 6ft's "off"year. Remember the Soprano's Intervention episode of year 4? Well david's carjacking episode was this year's version. A bright spot on a otherwise lackluster year. Let's hope season 5, is better, and while I understand some contesting my gaying up of six feet under (with the exception of gaymovieguy :-)) I guess to me some of it feels a bit forced.And Claire seemed completely inauthentic. But I have to say the best show of 2004 was the Shield.
Sept. 15, 2004, 12:01 a.m. CST
by Jim Jam Bongs
But Alan Ball has said in interviews that he was always a fan of trashy night-time soaps, especially Dynasty. So maybe just this one time I'll let it slide that he pulled a soap opera resolution for Lisa's death. Yet I wonder how much of that arc had been preplanned--now I'm wondering if Dr. Pepper had been served at one of the Kimmel family gatherings. ;)
Sept. 15, 2004, 1:27 a.m. CST
I've tried watching both shows, really have, mostly because of the comments made after posts regarding the shows. Didn't grab me at all. Maybe I'm just fucked in the head. I did end up watching 'Paradise Hotel' to the end...
Sept. 15, 2004, 9:51 a.m. CST
herc bashing the best network right now. fx. three of the best shows out there. hes going thru buffy withdrawal
Sept. 15, 2004, 9:53 a.m. CST
by Homer Sexual
The worst part was Claire getting together with Billy, but the conclusion to the Lisa story line was terrific! I wasn't paying close enough attention the first time, so I went back and watched it again and it was intense and believable. And I like Nate and Brenda together. David's end was lackluster, but it brought the dad's ghost back and ended the "David as big whiny victim" plotline.
Sept. 17, 2004, 12:43 p.m. CST
Seriously. We get constant reviews on reality shows, WB shows, and anything with the name "Whedon" in it, but a single-handed writeoff on the top 3 shows on TV??? Television is far too broad to only have the viewpoint of one person, especially one with tastes like Herc.