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Jesus did not come from Krypton! Clark Kent is not a Highwayman!

Published at: Aug. 31, 2004, 3:21 a.m. CST by staff

Hey folks, Harry here... Jim Caviezel is not going to be Superman. In fact right now, he isn't even being considered, though his representation is pushing him. Where is the search for the last son of Krypton? It's still a wide search. I'm very curious who is feeding Mark Millar this off-kilter information... as my sources are dead on. Hmmm...

The film is currently at the stage of preliminary location scouting all over the place, word has it Bryan has only just returned from checking out Australia. Word has it, that Bryan is beginning to form ideas regarding who would do for Superman, but he has been staying mum on the project... only... they've never played Jesus or have they been a TV Superman. So that's the gosh-darned truth of the matter.

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  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:29 a.m. CST

    Coolness! FIRST

    by KingDingaLing

    Who gives a rat's ass. I'm first and Superman The Movie is the only version that should exist.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:30 a.m. CST

    I won't say it

    by Snarky

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:33 a.m. CST

    superman....tight!

    by jewican

    If Jesus can't be Superman...perhaps we should look at other religious figures...like Gandhi or The Budda...or David Krish.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:44 a.m. CST

    BATMAN 1,SUPERMAN 0

    by grandmasterbator

    C'MON WB get ur freaking act together. If you want to do a sequel to the Chris Reeves Movies, Jim Caviezel is the "PERFECT" SUPERMAN!!!! If you want to do a relaunch of the origin, Tom Welling is your guy!!!! Wake up and smell the coffee... your doing so well with Batman, don't screw this up too!!! Plus, it's not just one franchise your gonna be screwing, it'll be 2!!!! and U guys don't even own XMEN but ur managing to screw it up too. For Shame!!!!

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:44 a.m. CST

    Thank Allah.

    by SmarkJobber

    Caviezel is all wrong for Supes. The guy doesn't look fit enough to save a donut from a cop. He just doesn't have the presence needed to fill that suit/role. Bana would be a fine choice for Superman, if he were seriously in contention, but I don't know about him as Kent.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Just get the gu who plays Ridge on "The Bold and the Beautiful"

    by Dlhstar

    Just fix his poofy hair and let him be Batman or Superman and be done with it...

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 4:25 a.m. CST

    A LOT of people want Tom Welling to play Superman...

    by oh_riginal

    ... and I'm in the same boat. Christopher Reeve was around the same age as Tom Welling right now when the first Superman movie was made, so whats the big deal? Everyone acts like Tom Welling is actually 17-18 and such. I thought everyone knew by now that older actors almost always play younger roles if they look the part. If he were to play in the movie, he could actually play his own age, whats wrong with that?!?!

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Since X3 is potentially ruined...

    by oh_riginal

    ... this movie better be worth it, damnit!!! Tom Welling for Superman! Michael Rosenbaum for Lex Luthor! Terence Stamp for Jor-El! (fans of Smallville know why I pick Terence Stamp). *continues to NOT hold breath*

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 4:36 a.m. CST

    yeah nevermind that mark millar called bryan singer as the new d

    by BEARison Ford

    you figure it out.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 4:38 a.m. CST

    Can't have Bana.

    by Hamish

    Hulk can't be Supes - I don't think people would wear it.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 4:48 a.m. CST

    jesus fucking christ

    by joe brady

    does anyone really give a shit about superman anymore? i guess so, since that piece of monkey doo-doo Smallville has been on so long. come on now. how is that show any good at all? don't answer that. i actually don't care what any smallville fans might have to say. or anyone at all. in fact, everyone disregard this entire post, as it's completely drunken and stupid. Smallville is lame, though.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 4:49 a.m. CST

    Millar's NOT wrong. Caviezel IS in the running...

    by Triumph poops!

    I have a friend here in LA with rock solid studio connections and he says over at Warners Caviezel IS currently the executive wing's top choice. THEY certainly are interested in him. So Millar's not wrong for what he's been saying. Caviezel is DEFINITELY in the running. Then again, that could be the suits taking a stance after looking at the box office numbers for THE PASSION (numbers which will only be right back in their face again this week as it hits DVD) and their thinking that Caviezel's time has come, so they should jump on this and hire him. Or maybe what Harry's getting by way of his source is that Singer is testing the waters with regards to his creative control over the film (since Warners is clearly going to watch over him very closely and the entire production since they have a franchise at stake) and as such, Singer has locked into going the Chris Reeve route and hoping to find a psuedo acting unknown. If that's the case, good luck generating Christopher Reeve lightning in a bottle. SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE isn't THAT old and most modern audiences STILL associate Reeve with the role and still regard him as the PERFECT Superman, so whoever gets the part has to really live up to things. On the flip side, Singer is totally, 100%, certifiably fucking nuts if he can't see that Caviezel is absolutely PERFECT for the role. All he needs to do is bulk up a bit, which Reeve had to do as well...

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 4:49 a.m. CST

    I always wanted this Superman movie.....

    by Drunken Fugitive

    to follow the Death of Superman story arc! Doomsday would kick ass on the big screen! Oh and Singer could be tapping Bana to play Luthor, Bana could bring the evil back to Lex, after you watch Chopper you'd understand why!

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 5:07 a.m. CST

    Caviezel is Green Lantern

    by BranMakMorn

    Caviezel is better for the Green Lantern. Hal Jordan version ala Neal Adams take. Hal Jordan was the earthman who the alien Green Lantern entrusted to take up the ring because he was the most noble human on the planet earth. Perfectly suited for Caviezel.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 5:27 a.m. CST

    Where the hell do you get that Caviezel is "homophobic straight

    by Commando Cody

    In the vernacular of Internet message boards "links, please" to prove such statements, that THEY'VE said "homophobic" or inflammatory comments, otherwise it's just ridiculous slander that has no merit. Although, interestingly enough, it would be fascinating if behind the scenes that WAS the battle going on. Namely, that the Warner brass wants Caviezel but Singer, being openly gay, resents his politics or strong religious beliefs and was fighting Warners to keep J.C. from the role. Boy, THERE'S the cover of an upcoming issue of THE STAR or the NATIONAL ENQUIRER for you. "Gay director refuses to accept Jesus!" In fact, even as I typed that, you can bet somewhere the tabloids are just HOPING they can run a headline like that to sell copies. The suits at Warners will love it...even as they're then cursing and reaching for their antacids.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 5:35 a.m. CST

    Cast Welling

    by Desk

    Smallville

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 5:39 a.m. CST

    up,up and away!!

    by Ali786

    we do need a new Superman movie, but who,what,where and so-on, I have no idea.....

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 6:51 a.m. CST

    Bruce Campbell should be Superman!

    by Judge Doom

    Or maibe Hulk Hogan... "Ain

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Caviezel is the PERFECT choice

    by Spacesheik

    We've said it before and we'll say it again. I don't know anything about the Brian Singer stories concerning his refusal to cast Caviezel but I think WB probably realizes that a 30 something good looking actor with gravitas and a major WORLDWIDE hit on his hands (PASSION) is a better choice than some 20 something pretty boy unknown kid who can't act. Christopher Reeve's shoes remain hard to fill, but someone like Caviezel -- who has an other wordly quality and a certain tough serenity -- could be a smashing choice for the role. I would go with Caviezel.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Groan

    by Captain Opus

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Groan Part 2

    by Captain Opus

    Gayzilla is a barking loon. I could type Elvis and Satan into a search engine get plenty of sites that relate the two...but that doesn't exactly prove anything. Oh, I could also type in Bush/Hitler and get the same hits. But a pile of radical left wing websites does not equate with 100% of the facts. Your gayness obviously has made you paranoid and possibly gayer. My vote is for J.C. as Superman. Now take the kryptonite out of your brain and stick up your ass.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Highwayman... Now THERE'S an idea!

    by rev_skarekroe

    Ladies and gentlemen, your Superman - Merle Haggard! sk

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:25 a.m. CST

    I have horrible thoughts about this Superman project. It should

    by TheGinger Twit

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:29 a.m. CST

    This should be called Hate back

    by liljuniorbrown

    Jimmy C is definitely a good choice for Superman,he's got the look of Clark Kents simple "every man" and that big blue boy scout we all love.But you can't say that can ya....No not in hate back... gotta say "he can't he sucks,he's the worst actor and he'll ruin this movie,and why?Because he played Jesus and it made a ton of money and i wouldn't doubt if he wins an oscar out of the deal.He learned a DEAD LANGUAGE and spoke it like a champ,but the people who posted that he's a bad actor and all of a sudden a homophobe don't care...none of that matters because he played jesus.Get real and find a better arguement.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Call me Crazy, but the dude who played Donny Darko would make a

    by TheGinger Twit

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:39 a.m. CST

    i was wrong

    by liljuniorbrown

    This talkback made alot of good points and was actually intelligent and funny...except gayzilla.you were the only blind hater,the only whiny retard,so here's a suggestion.Go make yourself a nice big protest sign that says JIM CAVIZEL HATES GAYS CAST ASTON KUTCHER AS SUPERMAN,and paint it green like kryptonite..........cover it in Ky jelly and let your boyfriend cram it in your ass. Captain Opus rules.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:44 a.m. CST

    Why not James Marsden aka Cyclops?

    by Darksider

    He's or 6 foot, looks young enough, and has already worked with Singer twice? Just put him in the gym.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:45 a.m. CST

    Hey Harry . . .

    by Nice Marmot

    Can we get an update on every other actor who ISN'T playing Superman?

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:46 a.m. CST

    D'oh

    by Darksider

    I meant OVER 6 foot.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Hey gayzilla...

    by tango fett

    SHUT THE FUCK UP. Thanks.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:51 a.m. CST

    No Bubble Boy for Superman!

    by Lou Stools

    Jake Gay-llenhaal looks like K.D. Lang

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Jason Dibler is Superman?

    by stlfilmwire

    Guess who I heard might be working with Singer... if some folks at DC have their way... or so I hear.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 9:01 a.m. CST

    CHRIS PINE AS SUPES... TAKE A LOOK

    by stlfilmwire

    THIS GUY WAS IN PRINCESS DIARIES 2 (which is crap)... can he act? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1517976

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah...

    by tango fett

    CAVIEZEL IS SUPERMAN! Kindly remove your head from out of your ass and cast him and be done with it! Everyone wants him (with the exception of a certain homosexual radioactive iguana), and that more or less worked when everyone wanted Bale for Bats. Which reminds me of something...I had a crazy thought that Marilyn Manson could be Joker. He's kind of built like him, has half the make up done already, and is really fucked up as it is. Not that I'd want to see that on screen, but just an idea. Cheerio

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Marketing Welling

    by Desk

    Blundetto

  • Nicole 21 - you may want to check that CNN poll, because as with every other recent major Superman casting survey Welling is totally dominant. He currently has a massive 55 percent of the vote against five other candidates, with 15586 votes to Caviezel's 5172.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 10:08 a.m. CST

    So when does it end

    by Sobewankinobi

    The dumb ass Hulk Hogan brother shit. Does every damn talkback need some lame ass Hulk Hogan post?

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Desk you are the man ! so True!! Welling is the only Superman P

    by paulyd30

    Hey Desk, Nice writing and you have the general consensus of all Superman fans. There is only One Superman right now the public will go for and that is TOM WELLING. He pulls it of beautifully. Not since Christopher Reeves has someone embellished Clark Kent and the MAN of Steel himself. Well said my friend and keep the Faith. WB would have to plain stupid not to use TOM WELLING because he simply is and gets Superman. Even Superman himself Christopher Reeves loves and endorses Tom Welling in the Role. True Superman Fans and readers of the comics support and want Tom Welling for Superman. WB do not make another ratt-woman mistake with the Greatest Super hero ever ! nuf said. Thank You,

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 10:25 a.m. CST

    ****** SUPERMAN WORLD EXCLUSIVE *****

    by MichaelJackson

    chevy chase isn't playing superman.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Gayzilla, for real?

    by Hud

    never heard that about Gibson or Caviezel! that'd be kind of a handicap in the entertainment industry though, no? I mean, Nancy and Ron Reagan had gay friends (especially Nancy) from their years in the biz. Point I wanted to make, though, is if there's any truth to what you're saying, I'm with Singer. I can't help but think that his being gay gave acuity to his vision for the X-Men movies. There's also a funny Nietzschean joke in your remark about Jews being the downfall of the ubermensch.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Gayzila is right, I hate to burst all yor bubbles

    by tylernol

    I know nothing about Jim C's views on homosexuality and could care less, but Gayzilla is right on the money with Mel Gibson. 10 years ago he was advocating testing fetuses for a "gay gene" and aborting them in utero as a means of wiping out the "disease" of homosexuality. It's amazing what Google can pull up. In fact, the gay community suggested a boycott on his films in the early 90s. Obviously it didn't work but it was a pretty hot topic back then. As a straight male I really don't care what Gibson believes or doesn't believe, but the whole Passion of the Christ thing rubbed me the wrong way. It just seems wrong that he should pocket $200 million from this film. If he's so devout he should be giving that money away to help third world nations or something. What was he doing with $25 million to make the film anyway? Doesn't the Bible say it's easier to get a camel throught the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into Heaven? Shouldn't Gibson have taken a vow of poverty or something? I can't believe this isn't a bigger issue than it is. If good ol' Mel felt compelled to make this film due to his overwhelming religious beliefs, surely he must feel compelled to give away the profits?

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Stop Suggesting Welling for Supes, He Can't Act (And the film is

    by Mr. Profit

    Welling is a pretty bad actor. Even Dean Cain was a better Superman. Besides, isn't Smallville set in today's times? Correct me if I am wrong please. I never really think that Smallville is setting up Superman's future because to me is like a What If TV series. Not knocking it. But the only good actor on the show is the guy who plays LEX.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Hulk Hogan as Sobewankinobi, brother

    by Hud

    Why the hell aren't we compulsive masturbators talking about BROOKE Hogan, the Hulkster's red-hot spawn?

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Yawn

    by Mafu

    I'm so bored with the hype surrounding this new Superman film. When the studio makes a decision, someone please tell me so I can give an even bigger shit whether the movie gets filed. Fuck Superman. He's the most boring superhero ever.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 11:47 a.m. CST

    I too think we should ditch the Hulk Hogan references and use Br

    by FluffyUnbound

    Come on, who's next?

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Hey Nicole21

    by tylernol

    Actually, I am a practicing Catholic myself and I have absolutely nothing against either Jim C or Mel Gibson. I loved Passion and Mel has been in some of my favourite films of all time. I think Gibson is a great actor and a great director. I just know that as a Catholic myself I couldn't, in good conscience, keep the kind of money Mel made from the Passion to myself. As for Mel's beliefs, the information I posted came from a google search, I don't know if it's true or not. I hope it's not true because I have genuine respect for Mel. I just posted it to demonstrate that Gayzilla may not be the crack head everyone thinks he is. The internet has made information, accurate or not, readily available so it's impossible not to be swayed by it. My post was not meant to slam either Mel or Jim, but rather to show that things are rarely black & white. Anyway, the personal politics of an actor or a director should not be a consideration in Hollywood. Films are primarily forms of entertainment anyway, so they and the people who make them should be judged accordingly.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 11:59 a.m. CST

    While Caviezel is the PERFECT SUPERMAN, he's too GOOD an actor f

    by jericho1368

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I feel that there couldn't be a better choice for Superman than Jim Caviezel. He was excellent in Passion of the Christ but that wasn't his only flick. Check the Thin Red Line, Count of Monte Cristo, Angel Eyes, Frequency, etc. This man is such a diverse actor, embodies Clark Kent (Angel Eyes) and has the heart and presence of a hero (Count of Monte Cristo) and can handle the hero/legend figure with excellence and grace (Passion). The SUPERMAN MOVIE would be LUCKY if Caviezel is considered. And while he is only one I'd want to see since I have ZERO interest in another comic-y Superman flick done by an X-Men director, I kind of hope he DOESN'T take it. I'd HATE to see Caviezel typecast as Superman since I enjoy each and every movie he makes.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 12:01 p.m. CST

    a link for commander cody

    by jrcash

    http://www.qrd.org/qrd/orgs/GLAAD/general.information/1996/meets.with.mel.gibson-wockner-05.22.96 Did you really not know that Gibson has had issues with the gay community in the past? Although the main thing was the son's lover in Braveheart being pushed out of the window for no reason by the king. And that the son and his lover are just big freakin' fags in the movie.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 12:04 p.m. CST

    "who shuld we believe? The guy that predicted Singer would be th

    by pip1345

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 12:08 p.m. CST

    "who shuld we believe? The guy that predicted Singer would be th

    by pip1345

    Mark Millar has been claiming that he's had "inside" information on who the new Superman director is since last year. Maybe longer, actually. When he first said that shit, there was immediately talk of M. Night Shyamalan being the pick (and I believe he implied that's who it was). In this case, he never said who it was that Warners had picked, only that it's a "fan favorite." Pretty safe, if you ask me. This is also the man who LIED, that's right, blatantly LIED about Orson Welles almost making a Batman movie before laughing at the online community for believing it. Not that I'm defending Harry, but Mark Millar is not to be trusted so thoughtlessly.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Cast Caviezel as Superman and it's a GUARANTEE EVERY WOMAN IN TH

    by jericho1368

    You know, now that I think about it, casting Caviezel as Superman is a guaranteed hit -- even if the movie is a stinker. The ladies just go WILD for this guy. Plus, it's guaranteed controversey. Remember how everyone felt about Keaton as Batman and he made the WB a mint. Caviezel will do the same.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Homophobic is not even the right word

    by SexyBeast

    Homophobic means scared of gays. A religious nutball isn't scared of gay people. He just doesn't like gay people.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Superman has to be an unknown...

    by Lost Skeleton

    ...b/c I can't see anyone filling the suit right now. Plus, whoever takes this thing is going to be typecasted for life.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 12:20 p.m. CST

    I like the idea of Caviezel as Supes because then he can do thos

    by Tall_Boy

    c'mon, the motherfucker can scream like a champ. "YYEAAARRRGGHHHH!! Ah! Ah! ARHGHGsgkgsla!!!"

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Cavaziel is perfect. That said, Millar makes up a LOT of crap.

    by riskebiz

    Anyone remember Millar and his old Gregory Peck as Batman thing a year or so ago? He even said once that HE wrote the script with Quesada, Jemas and Bendis with Doom being the Pete Best of the Fantastic Four. Ultimate version? Sort of. I don't believe anything Millar says until it's proof. That said, Jim Cavaziel is the perfect choice for Superman. If it can't be Tom Welling, then they shouldn't go for some unknown, because they'll just come of as Tom Welling-lite. They need to avoid that. They need Cavaziel. He is perfect and even has a bit of Christopher Reeve look to him.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 12:41 p.m. CST

    by jsm1978

    Disliking someones actions doesn't neccesarily mean you hate the person, and it certainly doesn't mean you're afraid of them. And why is it that being "tolerant" allows for any view but one that comes from a Biblical standpoint?

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 12:41 p.m. CST

    "You will believe Jesus can fly!"

    by -=Shin=-

    I really can't wait for those jokes to start popping up.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 12:53 p.m. CST

    SUPERMAN CASTING REVEALED

    by titosantana

    According to my sources inside warner bro's here is the dream casting list fot the studio and for the first time the characters of superman and clark kent will be played by two different actors. Superman: James van derbeek clark kent: scott foley lois lane: brittany murphy perry white: danny glover lex luthor: stone cold steve austin jimmy olsen:dave chappelle and thats the bottom line cause lex luthor said so

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 12:59 p.m. CST

    I

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    It is another ordinary day while Lois lane does some of her spring shopping down in the Chanel store in manhattan when suddenly the ROOF TEARS OPEN AND GAYZILLA DROPS IN TO CHECK OUT THE NEW SPRING LINE!....Distraught, Lois only knows to call in her good friend Superman, and ask him to make that big flaming lizard to go away and stop hogging the sale. As she and Supes eat dinner, GAYZILLA SWOOPS IN AND SHOWS OFF THE EXACT SAME DRESS THAT LOIS IS WEARING!!! pissed, Lois commands Jesus/Superman to get off his ass and beat the shit out of the creature. Jesus reaches for the spinach to get that extra strength boost when Lois stops him and reminds him that it

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 1:12 p.m. CST

    How about just using a CGI Superman and end all this hair pullin

    by Rolling_Stone

    The dude from the Tic can voice it. Just like the Amex commercials.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Jesus is Batman!

    by Wormie

    Hey, Christian Bale played Jesus in a TV movie with Anakin's mother. And the Green Goblin played Jesus too!

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 1:33 p.m. CST

    voicebox5, I couldn't agree more

    by JaneMangle

    with your assessment of Smallville. I've been watching from the beginning too. I also suffer through the lana/chloe/mom/dad gooey moments because the good is reaaal good. I admit I didn't think much of tom's acting until the red kryptonite story, then began to appreciate him. I don't think he's right for the movie tho, and I'm not sure I'd put Caveizel in there either.. I'm hoping for a really good unknown.. but I do like the idea of Bana as Luthor. I hated American Psycho, but thought he did a good job playing evil. btw, heard smallville's opening is Oct 1.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Trust no one but William Shatner

    by tile_mcgillus

    Harry I have to say that you aint been on top of things recently. I mean you miss half the gossip (you still havent put up the Sin City posters which were amazing) and post the other half two weeks later than everyone else. As for supes I think J.C. would be good. I am not so certain I can believe either of you (Knowles or Millar?).

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 1:54 p.m. CST

    It's been a while...

    by Electric_Monk

    Age is playing a factor here, and since when has talent been needed? Warner Bros. is having a big cry over how they should cast this role. An established actor James Caviezel might like the role for it offers him tons of new choices, but it also can tie him down for years and years doing sequels and -horror of horrors -typecast him. Going with an unknown opens another can or worms. A pretty face is easy to come by -look at half of the WB programming -but behind those fine cheekbones, abs, skinny waist and abnornal chests are actors with very little substance. Tom Welling, while nice to look at, has no range and makes Jonathan Frakes Commander Riker look animated. But an unknown might -in his desire to be famous for 15 minutes -might be willing to be custodian to a role that could last 10 years or more and Warner might want some young child in his early 20's to that. British actor Henry Cavill was attached for the longest time -he had the square face, the tight, hot body, but at 21 much to young to believed as Clark Kent let alone Superman. If Warner Bros and Bryan Singer want to make this film work, they need a good story and an actor that will make girls go giddy (along with us gay boys) but who also can act. And that's hard, these days. The networks only concern these days is appealing to one age group, one demographic -straight, white teenage boys. These boys don't require any of their actors to have any talent -witness the rise of Hillary Duff and Chad Michael Murray. Superman can be a good film -though Chris Reeves film will be hard to top - but I can't see Caviezel as Clarke Kent. I still think they need to go with an unknown. But what do I know?

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 2:15 p.m. CST

    THIS is a news article?????

    by AICN fanboy dork

    Then again, this is AICN....

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Laird Hamilton IS Superman!

    by GrouchoFerret

    Just check out Riding Giants (the coolest movie of the summer by the way). The dude looks like a greek god but is as modest and charming as hell. Weismuller was just a charismatic swimmer before he became iconic as Tarzan.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 2:35 p.m. CST

    F@#$ Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, all those pretty boy comic

    by Harry Coin

    . . . the world truly craves, nea, needs a Ralph Snart and Mr. Lizard movie! For those of you unfamiliar with the genius of MR. Hansen's beer guzzling, psychotic accountant and his imaginary side kick the giant, english speaking reptile Mr. Lizard, google RALPH SNART right away. He has just started posting new FREE online comics after getting back the rights to his characters. The psychotic alcohol tinged adventures of this loon (favorite story: Ralph Snart transforms his neighbors little ankle biter dog into a ferocious Pit Fighter and starts taking it around to Pit Fights and betting on it while drunk out of his mind) is the right antidote to the spate of overly serious comic book movies festooning the horizon. Who really cares about virtuous pretty boys fighting crime? Can you relate to that? I can't, but I can relate to a brain damaged drunk accountant hallucinating wierd adventures and cavorting with an Imaginary giant lizard. I mean, who can't relate to that?

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Why Welling works is because he has no film career...

    by andrew coleman

    After Smallville what will he do he can't be the seveteen year old guy forvever. Super-man might be his only choice and since thestudio probably wants to make sequels to this they will nab him so he can stay on for those. I think they will look at Spider-man and go Tobey is bitching like an ass because he calls himself a character actor and does not want to be stamped as Spider-man. So the WB might want avoid that since they probably own Wellings life. Also the Bana thing for super-man is dump because I thought he was in the running for James Bond you can't be The Hulk, Hector, James Bond and Super-man that's not possible. I could believe he being a bad guy though.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 2:52 p.m. CST

    They're still gonna film this in Australia ("Down Under" in Quig

    by FrankDrebin

    ...a Bruce-infested dingo-shack. C'mon, there can't be that much of an exchange difference on the dollar--film it in NYC!

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 2:56 p.m. CST

    "I'm not a religious man, but SAVE ME SPERMAN!"

    by FrankDrebin

    Are Simpsons references too passe? Until ARRRESTED DEVELOPMENT's been around a few years, I'll have to keep quoting Homer.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 2:59 p.m. CST

    If Christopher Reeve were miracuously healed, had his age revers

    by oh_riginal

    ... there would still be haters out there complaining. How about just scrapping the whole idea of this movie?? Singer can crawl back to the X-Men franchise with his tail between his legs, and we would all be much happier for it.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3 p.m. CST

    what is going on here?

    by greyspecter

    the "article" harry posted says that Cavizel WON'T be superman, and you all are saying how cool (or uncool) it will be to have him as the man of tomorrow. plus, i just left ComingSoon.net/SuperHeroHype.com and they say he's confirmed as Clark.................................................is this the twilight zone?

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:03 p.m. CST

    But seriously, the perfect Superman Movie for me. . .

    by Harry Coin

    . . . would be cast older, and be a comedy set in the 50's. An older superman with some gravitas and comic timing would be nice. Ideally, the story would not be an origin (I think we all know where Superman comes from). Here's a good plotline: Lex luther, president of a giant Lockheed- Boeing like defense contractor uses the sinister new technology of SPY SATELLITES to track Superman to his Fortress of Solitude. After discovering the location, Luther causes a giant diversion (erupting volcanoe, terrorist attack, etc.)so he can raid The Fortress of Solitude so he can reverse engineer the technology he finds there. Using Kryptonian technology, he creates a new generation of SUPER BATTLE ROBOTS and STEALTH FIGHTERS he plans to sell to the government. Of course, he has secret COMPUTER CHIPS installed in all the new defense weapons so he can take over and control the military, leading to a coup that would make him the new ruler of these United STates. Of course, only Superman stands in his way, but luther new weapons all posses GREEN KRYPTONITE LASER BEAMS, so superman is up shit creek without a paddle. Only with the help of a spunky Louis Lane and skirt chasing Jimmy Olsen can superman foil the plans of Lex Luthor! I would cast either Gary Cole (Mr. Brady is Superman) or Ron Livingstone (he would need to lift some weights, but he would be perfect) as superman. Parker Posey would be Louis Lane, Topher Grace as Jimmy Olsen, and Jimmy Caan as perry white. There would be plenty of slapstick in the office and Superman would be able to beat the shit out of dozens of giant robots! Laurence Fishburn would make an awesome LEx Luthor, plus being black would add some nice layers of character motivation to luther, instead of just being pissed about losing his hair (which I would definetly keep in as a major plot point)he could be out to get whitey. Plus, Christopher Gueast could riff on hiss Princess Bride- A few good men character acting and play Luther's head scientist, who would later go on to become Brainiac. Jesus, I'm good.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:19 p.m. CST

    smells like baloney

    by stvnhthr

    I can't believe this argument still pops up on message boards in this supposedly enlightened age. HOMOPHOBIA by definition is the fear of homosexuality. Christians and specifically Catholics are not Homophobic by nature. To disagree with someone's world view does not equate fear or hatred as it has been perverted to mean by some vocal pro-gay groups. Bryan Singer would be a laughing stock and a bigot if he discounted a credible actor for his personal beliefs, and the man seems too intellectually honest to do something so inane.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Eh...

    by Waterson

    First off, I really can't put my finger on it, but I don't buy JC as Supes. Not for a second. I'm a huge Smallville fan, and I adore Welling, and think he would be great in a Superman film, if that film was an origin story, but that's the main problem - I DON'T WANT AN ORIGIN STORY. That's been done, and I know it's been stated earlier by this site that it won't be, but...well, AICN isn't the epitome of reliability. Give me an older Superman, one who's been around Metropolis for a good ten years, someone who's feeling that he's been taken for granted. Put some emotion into the film instead of pumping it full of cash and special effects - but by all means don't make it Hulk. Singer will hopefully find a good balance, especially in the area of how much screen time Clark Kent or Superman will get in the flick; Too much Supes, you're fucked. Too much Clark, you're fucked. Here's to hoping.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:37 p.m. CST

    as others have kindly pointed out, there's lots of credence to t

    by BEARison Ford

    for whatever reason didn't get/take the part. Regardless, he was hanging out with Singer at least for a little while, so they do know each other and do seem to be on friendly terms. Does this mean he's Superman? who fucking knows. I don't even like Superman so I could give a shit.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Mace Windex

    by cybertrent

    As if 'Superman: the Movie' is somehow untouchable or unbeatable (in terms of quality). In that movie, Lex was as lethal as a used car salesman, he was surrounded by morons, Lois was a skank and the script (contrary to fanboy points of view) was riddled with problems from the first Metropolis sequence on. Lex's big power grab is a real estate swindel? Superman saves the day through time travel? It was, at best, a *decent* movie. And the only reasons it even gets that description is because of Reeve's acting abilities and Williams's score. How the hell Donner could preach "verisimilitude" on the one hand and direct Ned Beatty with the other is beyond me. Bottomline, if Welling or Jesus don't get the role, I'd just as soon the movie not get made. You Talk Back people...

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:47 p.m. CST

    ISN'T THERE ALREADY A SUPERMAN MOVIE?

    by bushsux

    There was a Superman movie put out already, it was good. It also had three sequels. We do not need another Superman movie. These fanboys who are bloodlusting for this new Superman movie are also the same people who complain that Hollywood can't come up with an original idea. I can better understand WB making another Batman movie. The third and fourth installments ruined a great franchise and left a bad taste in everyone's mouth not to mention people are more interested in Batman. Superman 3 and 4 were mediocre movies but they don't approach the sheer shittiness of Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. Batman and Robin was the worst movie of the 90's and that's saying alot. WB, don't waste your money and our time, try to make a movie we haven't seen yet.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Wil Wheaton as Superman!

    by FluffyUnbound

    Come on, Warner! Fuck it up as much as possible!

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 3:58 p.m. CST

    bushsux

    by cybertrent

    Yes there has been a Superman movie... 25 years ago. A mediocre one at that. One that a lot of kids today laugh at. Whether they're laughing because Hackman's Luthor just cannot compare to Michael Rosenbaum's Luthor or if they find how badly the movie has aged funny is anybody's guess.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 4:08 p.m. CST

    amusing speculation

    by bright

    all this speculation and strange reactions outshine whatever gets on film. You're all nuts. And it's hilarious. I'd pick caviezel, but WB and Singer need Caviezel far more than he needs them. He's the real deal.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 4:25 p.m. CST

    "Jesus/Superman is waylaid with a combination of kryptonite and

    by DocPazuzu

    Funny, funny shit. Thanks, ChickenGeorge.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Gayzilla's unfair accusations

    by Ivan_Mtl

    Mel Gibson, or any man of faith for that matter, is no more anti-gay than he is anti-adultery, anti-idolatry, anti-lying, anti-murder or anything else that the bible describes as a sin. I am not a practicing Catholic myself, but I respect everyone's religious beliefs. Also, please do not single out the Catholic religion as being the only one that condemms homosexuality, when you know this to be untrue. In fact, Islam is probably the most rigidly and inhumanly anti-homosexual in it's practices of all the world religions. The verses from the Koran condemning homosexuality are much clearer than those of the Christians. The debates in Islam about homosexuality are not about whether it's acceptable, but rather about how severe the punishment should be. Feel free to disagree with Mel Gibson's beliefs, but resorting to name-calling doesn't do anything to support your lifestyle choice.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Mediocrity

    by cybertrent

    voicebox5, I'm right, you're wrong. The first Sman flick was mediocre. I didn't mention the flying effects, 1989 Batman, Kim Basinger, screams or any of that other bullshit. Don't cloud the issue. Hackman was a terrible Luthor. Michael Rosenbaum is everything Hackman wishes he could've been. Maybe my standards are low, but I need more than well written dialog and good acting to enjoy a movie. By your standards, Kevin Smith flicks are right up there with Kubrick in terms of cinematic greatness. Sorry, I don't think so (and nothing against Smith either). And by the way, don't even get me started on Burton's Batman movies. Those are even worse than any of the Superman movies. Donner's Superman was okay in it's day, but it's time for SOMEONE to do a better job. Here's hoping Singer is up to the task.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 5:03 p.m. CST

    I'm a little worried about Singer though...

    by andrew coleman

    Since the X-Men movies are cool for certain things I don't think he has big action sequence locked down. Sure X2 had some but they were messy in places. I want a big showdown in Superman, not just him saving people from falling off a building or whatever I want him tossing cars and having fights in the air etc. Still Singer is really good Usual Suspects rules and hopefully he can do a good job

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Kenny Baker for Superman!

    by mondoz2

    He can do it!

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Caviezel is Superman

    by tequilaworm

    The guy can flat out act. He also has a certain tenderness on his eyes, has the height, and a little Christopher Reeves kind of look about him. I am also not totally against the idea of Tom Welling playing Superman but if WB wants a special performance they need to get CAVIEZEL...CHEERS Amigos!

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 5:35 p.m. CST

    The real truth....

    by Packin_Beef

    WORD just in from the back lot. Reeves has been spotted the past week in and out of Singer's office. Yes, he is going to reprise his role in the new Superman movie as the Man of Steel! Since most of the action and scenes with Superman is done with wires and CGI, his limitations are, actually, not a problem. Also, Welling will portray a yound Clark....in a storyline revolving around future time travel. Stay tuned....

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Caviezel's accelerated decripitude

    by Desk

    Caviezel's not the worst choice you could make, but he turns 36 next month. If you're only looking for a one-off Superman film he'd fit the bill, but I'm afraid he's not the man to relaunch a franchise. Christopher Reeve was 24 when he filmed the first Superman film. Tom Welling's 27, and to my mind a much better bet for a decent run at the role.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Nicole21 does it again

    by Sidious-1138

    Yet another bizarre, paranoid, non-sensical post. How the hell do you draw the conclusion that calling someone homophobic is referring to the fact that they are Catholic?! That's just weird. Then you acccuse Gayzilla, an openly gay man, of being a bigot and a racist too? Huh? Mel Gibson's homophobic stance is well known and well documented. He hasn't been shy about it. Don't know about Caviezel. The dictionary defines bigot as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices". Hmmm sounds like a lot like you Nicole. Are you sure you aren't really Ann Coulter?

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 6:53 p.m. CST

    It sounds like Harry is talking out his ass....but that's just m

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 7:33 p.m. CST

    chris reeve was perfect because

    by deadrapeddear

    he was square-jawed and masculine and he inspired confidence. I think Caviezel is a damn good choice, but all these other names floating around are pouty pretty-boy Hollywood actor/model types. Superman is not pretty. He swoops in and saves the day. Androgynous Teen Beat actors are too busy preening in the mirror to save the day. (And i've got nothing against those guys -- cast them in the David Bowie biopic, but not as Superman.) So if not Caviezel, please get someone like him, who doesn't look like he'd always be checking his hair in the rearview mirror. Since Singer is such a big fan of the Donner film, I have some confidence he will do this.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Ralph Snart!

    by Voltron Lions

    Yeah! I remember Ralph Snart! Published by NOW comics, right? Yeah, that' s a movie I wanna see. But who could play Ralph?

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Of Course!

    by Voltron Lions

    Denzel Washington. He' d be a great Ralph Snart. He' s good in everything.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Back when Kevin Smith was circling GREEN HORNET, didn't he say p

    by CountryBoy

    They all said other people did the action scenes. Why then is everyone so excited Singer's doing SUPERMAN, or upset he's left X-MEN? Or am I missing something? P.S. Caviezel for Superman...

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Cybertwat? ME?!

    by cybertrent

    "Mediocre, in case you're too dumb to realize it, means "ordinary, moderate to inferior in quality"."- Yay, you finally figured out what dictionaries are for! Yes, that's EXACTLY what I was saying, good job! --------- "So, does that seem at all mediocre to you?"- Uh, yeah motherfucker, that's what I said before. --------- Or are you just showing yourself to be neither educated nor correct? I choose the latter!"- So what, it got nominated for a ton of awards. That's certainly not a validation of the quality of the film. A big portion of my gripe was with the plot and how Donner directed some of the actors. So you can imagine how much I DON'T care if the movie was an Oscar for Williams' score or not. --------- "And if you think Gene Hackman sucked as Lex Luthor, you simply don't appreciate Donner wanting to give the movie a comedic tone." Right on! I DON'T appreciate Donner wanting to give the film a more comedic tone! Especially not from the main villain of the entire fucking movie!

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Hating Catholicism....

    by Hairy Nutsack

    Where to begin? Okay first off, stop calling people that disagree with the homosexual lifestyle homophobes. Fear and disagreement are NOT the same thing. There are plenty of non-religious arguments on both sides of the issue that make sense enough that people can have their opinions without being labeled with hatred. As for Catholicism, hating Rome doesn't make you a racist, and to say that is way beyond moronic. Personally I hate Rome because they don't give a fuck that their priests rape little boys all over the world. This is a MUCH bigger and MORE important problem than any gay bias. Every time I read that a Bishop is refusing to release information about a child raping priest just confirms the truth about the Vatican, God doesn't live there and He never did.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Marc Blucas

    by Z_ackmorris

    If they are going for a youngish Superman that is not gonna be Tom Welling. Then this guy should be seriously considered.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Rupert Everett as Superman

    by gama

    Why not

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Wait a minute -- If the reports are true that this film will STA

    by Commando Cody

    Seriously, if Singer is treating this film ala SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE as a relaunched version of the origin, what's the POINT to hiring Welling? If I wanted to see Welling as Clark coming to Earth and growing up in Smallville I could just pop in the DVD and watch the premiere episode of SMALLVILLE and be done with it. No need to see the movie. In essence, about 1/4 or so of the movie is utterly pointless since Welling has ALREADY done the coming to Earth/growing up in Smallville bit. It seems to me the only logical (and fun thing) would be to pattern the pacing of this new relaunch film ala SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE and for the early Smallville years let it be Welling as a tip of the hat to his TV role...but then just like in SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE when Clark (the man) arrives in Metropolis let it be Jim Caviezel. Because the truth is, Welling is just too baby faced looking still even at 26. As someone else has said (I think Nicole21) Welling just doesn't look like a SuperMAN -- he still looks too much like a SuperBOY. Warners, you did right by hiring Bale for Bats and look at all the POSITIVE fan geek rumbling you got going off that. So since you learned to pull your heads out of your asses (or at least after CATWOMAN we all hope you did) listen to the fans AGAIN (who you're expecting to show up for this thing) and go with their overwhelming NUMBER ONE CHOICE for the role which is JIM CAVIEZEL.

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 9:23 p.m. CST

    America is COMPLETELY accepting of bigots....

    by Hairy Nutsack

    Hate to break it to you gayzilla but America is 100% accepting of bigots by design. Free speech or expression protects the rights of bigots of all varieties and this wouldn't be America if it were any other way. That doesn't mean that some people's views aren't wrong or unethical, it just means that they are entitled to have their thoughts, feelings, and opinions no matter which side of an issue they fall on.(which is precisely what is wrong with hate crime legislation, policing thought) By the same token, people who are not bigots are protected by the same rights as those that are. We are entitled to feel and say any damn thing we please, that's what makes this country great. And so I will now exercise my free speech and say, I hope a volcano erupts in Vatican Square and burns that nest of Satan to the ground!

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Harry should be Superman!

    by Century_Fly

    and Quint as Lois Lane

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Okay, SUPERMAN THE MOVIE is somewhat dated-- it's a product of a

    by FrankDrebin

    You didn't have tv stars like Pamela Anderson and Paris Hilton releasing porno movies on the internet, or rappers like 50 Cent and Shyne releasing cd's from jail, or people eating bugs and marrying for money on reality shows. This was all pre-DARK KNIGHT, so you have to forgive its lack of "edge".

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 11:07 p.m. CST

    Favorite scene in SUPERMAN THE MOVIE... Lois: "Do you like 'pin

    by FrankDrebin

    Still makes me laugh. (And if you don't get the joke, listen to Aerosmith's "Pink".)

  • Aug. 31, 2004, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Cybertrent and Voicebox are both right......

    by nomihs

    Okay so now that you both have voiced your opinions lets get down to what the point really boils down to. Voicebox is either old enough to appreciate Superman The Movie as it was meant to be, and got due notice for by many awards shows, or has a rare love of movies before his time. Cybertrent, in my opinion, more than likely was never old enough to get into a good heroes tale like Superman, thus all of the talk of it being "mediocre". I first watched that movie when I was 7 years old, 20 years ago, and have dreamed I could fly ever since. So I agree with Retrostyle, Superman is of a different time. Either you can appreciate it, or you can't. But don't treat American pop culture like it's your Dad's porno mag after you are through with it. It was "mediocre" movies like Superman that allowed other things in your life to exist. Inspiration is a powerful tool. Try getting some sometime.

  • ok......1978 Superman...you know what? many think it's something that its not... one of the best superhero movies? yessir. Iconic and definitive? why shit no. let me tell you something.... the origin parts of the movie (complete with krypton, JorEl, exploding scenes) was superb, could not be done any better (maybe Brando could have given a little mre of himself to the role but ovvberall, i think he did a good job....maybe the sense they were trying to get across was that Kryptonians by nature are rather not very emotional beings...which i buy) the origin part of the movie was brilliant. now the rest of the movie....mixed bag my friend. now the big suprise and the real treat of the movie is Christopher Reeves. the guy owned the movie, no one will EVER do as good a job...how often do you find a guy who is basicaly unknown (nobody saying "hey wasn't he in...") he looks damn near exactly like the comic book drawn Superman, he is an EXCELLENT actor, and conveys bravery, honor, compassion, strong morals, and patriotism... without saying a word! Christopher Reeves MADE that movie... the other treat about it was the music... my God the music. John Williams has never been better... i must say that jaws, star wars even, and indiana jones just have great music, but not as good as Superman, never have i seen or heard such a perfect blending such a perfect match of movie and music...they fit so well it's unbelievable! now you have yourself a brilliant origin scene, perfect Lead actor...perfect Music...not much can go wrong right? wrong! i got a couple of woprds for ya... Supporting cast.... and one more word... Script! first things first... Lex luthor... Gene Hackman is a great actor...his vast body of work speaks for itself. and to Gene's credit...most of the problem lies in the script...the character of Lex Luthor in the movie would have no doubt been worse if not for what little life Gene gave to him. Lex Luthor was always Superman's arch nemesis because he was smart, incredibly smart...Smarter then Superman... and evil as Satan himself...now in the movie Lex is so stupid that he lives in a sewer...he's just a common criminal, and he surrounds himself with idiots! now the aspect of that i understand.....he likes to make himself feel smart by being surrounded by idiots...i know thats what they were trying to get across buit Lex has no such need! they didn't understand or "get" the character of Lex Luthor. that's the first problem... they fucked the villian up the ass. next problem... Lois Lane... now looks aside (i actually thought Margot Kidder looked fairly hot in the first Superman Movies) Kidder played Lois somewhat wrong...although Lois is very cocky and full of herself... she isn't a stupid, chainsmoking, whore. and superman can not travel back in time, the very thought of that scene just gives me the shivers... i can onl;y live through it because of the fucking brilliant acting in that scene by reeves...how he screams and just....i love it...but yeah, that doesn't work...so it falls short. tyhe movie as a whole falls short...but is given an incredibly amount of leverage because of the three good points. what's good is incredibly good, what's bad? is just regularly bad. so... as for casting the new movie? wel let me say this...James C. (i won't pretend to know how to spell his last name) is a good choice...he looks the part (not as much as Reeves but who ever will?) and he's a hell of an actor. he would have to bulk up a bit though, as superman is built pretty tough...but hey, look at Independence Day - Will Smith and ALi - Will Smith... i'm not worried about bulking up! as for Tom Welling, he's actually the choice i would prefer..now alot of people say he looks too young... well, if theWB would just wait to film this movie for one more season of Smallville (hey, they graduate this year anyway!) they can grab Welling...make him look a little older.. (give him a more manly Hairstyle and a little bit of stubble, you'll be amazed) let's not forget, Chris Reeves was only one year older then welling when he played Superman in 78...and they also make Welling look young in Smallville.... makeup, hairstyle, and clothes... imagine Welling with the Clark kent Daily Planet Reporter hairstyle, Glasses, and a suit with a little bit of Stubble..... ah? ah? am i right! the problem is, everyone watched Smallville ...they've all seen at leas one episode (and judging by the Christopher Reeve guesting episode "Rosetta" ratings.....ALOT of people watch Smallville) if you cast someone else, the stupid masses of America will become confused...you can't have two supermen! and as for acting... i know welling wasn't good like...at all in the first season but watch some key episodes in the third season, or Red and Rosetta from the second season....he has grown just as any actor would... he's been a serious player and he's been watching Rosenbaum (the perfect Lex) act and he's learned alot...he's trying! he has improved alot and if you own the DVD sets of the first two seasons of Smallville you can SEE the improvments...in the third season he's even better, every season his acting improves... and let's face it, it doesn't take a Robert De Niro/Anthony Hopkins/Peter O'Toole type actor to play Superman....it's difficult yes, but not THAT difficult... Batman or Spiderman have layers and layers of character yes, but Superman doesn't really have all that much to him. that's my two cents.... the9inchnail@hotmail.com if anyone wants to discuss furthjer on these matters...or email me some hot butt pictures of Lindsey Lohan...man she's got a nice ass, i would just LOVE to fuck her up it.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Hulk Hogan starring as Lorenzo Lamas as Bruce Campbell playing C

    by oh_riginal

    Saying to Lois Lane: "No, I'm not Superman, brother. Kathleen Kinmont is gone, gimme some sugar baby."

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 12:23 a.m. CST

    Responding to Deacon's comment about Tom Welling, Smallville, et

    by oh_riginal

    Amen.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 1:23 a.m. CST

    Well said Deacon...

    by JAGUART

    Amen again. Especially the fuck Lohan up the ass part.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Welling: too young?

    by Stan the Bat

    Some complain that Welling is too young. One guy said that Welling, in order to 'bulk up', would need six months that this high-speed production apparently doesn't have. Folks- Tom Welling will be pushing forty by the time this movie is made. The question isn't whether he can 'bulk up' fast enough- it's whether he'll still have hair on his head by the time the cameras roll.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 1:40 a.m. CST

    by jacinta

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Aussie guys...

    by jacinta

    Apparently Conrad Coleby, from All Saints, auditioned for the part, as did, *giggle* Wesley from the recent Big Brother series. It's clear that the project is in trouble if either of them get cast!

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Harry's source.......

    by indio2

    You can believe Harry here, his source is probaby Singer's inner circle, if not Bryan himself. It always has been on Singer's projects.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 4:06 a.m. CST

    Surprising ages

    by Desk

    Deacon - great analysis of the 1978 film. Despite arguable faults it remains a true classic, and features the definitive portrayal of The Man of Steel. One point, though... Christopher Reeve was actually 24 when he started filming Superman, believe it or not. Welling is three years older at 27, convincingly playing someone much younger with the aid of constant shaving, seclusion from sunlight, and so much pale foundation that he might be mistaken for Michael Jackson if it wasn't for all the rouge they apply to his cheeks for that boyish blush.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 4:07 a.m. CST

    SUPERMAN - THE MOVIE

    by Weasel

    Guys, just a few things here: (1) Jim Caviezal is one ugly damn mug and has a brooding, hangdog look that just doesn't fit the look of The Man of Tomorrow. I hate to break it to everyone but Clark Kent/Superman is supposed to be handsome! In addition, Mr. Caviezal's acting ability does not warrant the kind of praise lavished upon it by my fellow geeks; indeed, he seemed to sleepwalk through nearly every role in which I've ever seen him. (2) Superman: The Movie. Gentlemen, to my mind one of the great mysteries of the universe is why so many of the youngsters at this site consider this steaming pile to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. It was godawful when I first saw it in the theatre back in '78 and it remains so to this day. Yes, Christopher Reeve was indeed fantastic as the main character - as was Jackie Cooper as the irascible Perry White - but they were the rare exceptions in a wincingly bad bit of cinema. The music was John Williams bombast at its most offensively bombastic. Screenwriters David and Leslie Newman should have been burned alive on a pyre made up of multiple copies of their own terrifyingly bad screenplay. And the special effects are amateurish even by the standards of its own day; Star Wars had been released a YEAR EARLIER in 1977 and its SFX are infinitely superior. Unlike "Deacon" who believes that Superman's origins couldn't have been done any better, I'm still waiting for a decent Superman origin. Every one I've ever seen always seems to suffer from a chintzy budget coupled to poor production design. Dammit, I want a planet Krypton that looks real! That whole "crystal" motif from the movie was pure cheese. (3) As for casting the part of Superman, I would have to either go with a complete unknown or with "Smallville's" Tom Welling. But if they go with Welling as Superman then they damn well better grab Michael Rosenbaum as Lex Luthor. Week after week Rosenbaum nails that character with unerring precision, giving us a courageous, tortured, brilliant, compassionate figure attempting to evade his destiny as one of the DC universe's most evil characters. It really bothers me that so many of our fellow posters seem to overlook this fine young actor in the sudden stampede to promote other "Luthors" (Eric Bana? Please!) (4) Can anyone give me a reasonable answer as to why this movie is so slow to get made? It can't just be money - I've seen studio a-holes happily greenlight $200 million projects with a lot less potential than this. After 26 years we need a Superman movie for the 21st century. Here's hoping the WB does something right for once.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 5:46 a.m. CST

    How about a planned trilogy with Welling and Rosenbaum?

    by oh_riginal

    After a season or two of Smallville, start the movies with Clark and Lex still as friends (though nearly at a crossroads where Luthor will turn against Clark). In the meantime, bring out some cool villains from the comic books (sorry, I don't really know any of them by name). In the third movie, bring Lex into his full villainy and make him the big badass that hes supposed to be. If Tom Welling is cast as Superman, of course Michael Rosenbaum HAS TO BE LEX LUTHOR. They have a chemistry together on screen, and should not be seperated if Welling is cast in the role. If you ask me, having Rosenbaum as Lex Luthor is worth casting Tom Welling (not that I disapprove of Welling, as seen in my earlier posts).

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Oh yeah...

    by oh_riginal

    ... and bring Terence Stamp in as Jor-El, if he is to be involved in the story at all. He played Jor-El's voice on Smallville, so it would be a nice touch. Plus he played in the original movie and its sequel, so that would be a nice cast connection. Christopher Reeve could reprise his role as Dr. Swann if it could be fitted into the story as well. Chris Reeve's appearance would be like a "seal of approval" and like a passing of the torch to Welling. Imagine how cool that would be!!

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Bale's Batman = Caviezel's Superman....that's the EQUATION!! in

    by DarthBakpao

    Cast an unknown and tell me how he's going to go face to face with Christian Bale????? WE WANT CAVIEZEL DAMMIT!!! just like the way we wanted it for Bale as Batman! I'll second every post supporting Caviezel as Superman! CAVIEZEL is the MAN!

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 6:37 a.m. CST

    As good as J.C. would be as Superman...

    by oh_riginal

    ... I still say Tom Welling for Superman!! No origin sequence, just start with Clark Kent arriving in Metropolis to work at the Daily Planet. Take all the stuff that was good about the first Superman movie and enhance it, exclude the corny stuff (time reversing), and theres the first awesome movie (since its pretty much guaranteed that the franchise will be relaunched with this movie). Then how about bringing in Doomsday for the second film, kill Superman, then bring him back to life for the third film, with Lex as a full villain. Just throwing some ideas out there.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Perfect Cast? Read Here!

    by Mr Chuff

    Russ Abbot as Superman and Bella Emberg as Lois Lane... sorted. No go fucking make it WB!

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 7:23 a.m. CST

    Dissing the Hackman Luthor is, simply, sacrilege.

    by FluffyUnbound

    He's TWICE as great a villain WITH his sense of humor as he would have been without it. Why? Because his schemes give him joy, and Hackman embraces that. This is a guy who can plan to drop California into the sea and be charming and entertaining about it. Best comic movie villain - ever.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Nicole21, seek help

    by Rain_Dog

    Politics aside, you are obviously paranoid/delusional.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 9:35 a.m. CST

    I was watching Band of Brothers last night

    by jim

    and thought "if not Jim Caviezel, how about Neal McDonough for Superman?"

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 9:54 a.m. CST

    According to a straw poll conducted at my local bar, Nicole21 is

    by Drunken Rage

    1) "Superman: The Movie" has some funny, campy moments but it's shitty; 2) I can't believe this "article" is generating so much feedback; 3) "The Passion of the Christ" is a spectacularly homoerotic and stupid movie, regardless of Gibson's hatred of gays and his directing abilities; 4) Guy Pierce would be a good Superman; and 5) I'd rather eat my own shit than see another Superman movie as they all sucked ass except for #2.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 10:51 a.m. CST

    The Only Superman Movie I will see is one that stars JIM CAVIEZE

    by jericho1368

    You know the more I think about it, the more I loathe the idea of another Superman movie. How could the brass at WB think they could continue the francise... 20 years after the last four. And to start over, well, I just can't see any Superman flick coming even CLOSE to Superman One by Donner and music by John Williams. How could ANYONE top his opening sequence? Singer and his corney X-Men opening and horrible X-Men score? Please. The more I think about it, the less I want to see an X-Men-Superman movie. In fact, the ONLY thing that would make me see a Superman movie is JIM CAVIEZEL. The man is an oscar calibre actor, has a larger than life presence on the screen (The Passion, and if the actor doesn't have a larger than life presence, this movie will TANK), can handle the role of a hero (Count of Monte Cristo -- A great FRIGGIN flick) and has the innocense, vulnerability, humility and good looks of Clark Kent (Angel Eyes and Terrance Malik's THIN RED LINE). Tom Welling? Who wants a continuation of Smallville? This is big screen, not small screen and the movie should be judged on its on merits, not as a sequel to Smallville. Jim Caviezel is the ONLY man for the role. But if he doesn't get it it wouldn't be so bad. I wouldn't want to see that fantastic actor typecast forever. I love the guys movies and don't only want to see him in Superman roles for the rest of his life.

  • is groups of close-minded people who see others who are different then them as inferior and/or evil simply because they do not believe the same things. I know about the Liberal add Nicole21 references. It was a campaign commercial to get you to vote Liberal instead of Conservative. I am sure there are "Evangelical Christians and Orthodox Catholics" who support the Conservative party but it is a huge leap to assume that they ARE the Conservative party. The attack was aimed at the leader of the party, not the religious beliefs of some of its supporters. I have no doubt that Church and State are not as separate as democratic dogma demands but I do not believe they are as intertwined as Nicole21 does. Do not view every action that you disagree with (or that disagrees with you) as an attack against your most sacred beliefs. It's not always about religion. Just because someone does not share your opinion does not mean they are racist or bigoted. Don't take is so personally.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 11:07 a.m. CST

    name an actor who dosn't dislike some group

    by liljuniorbrown

    The only possible anti gay statement i've ever heard Gibson say is"My ass is an exit only deal,there idea and mine aren't exactly the same" Thats the news paper qoute over seas that was supposed to be the anti gay statement.Then he worked with GLAAD ,by taking some courses in better understanding that lifestyle. So if thats offensive to gays then i say horrible,he shouldn't be like that.But honestly i've heard alot of actors qouted saying some dumb stuff and my thing is if i don't agree i don't watch there movies.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Superman: The Movie was great, Weasel

    by Jeditemple

    Sorry to have to tell you this, but the Christopher Reeve Superman movies did well in their time. Granted, they didn't age well, but there are part of the Superman legacy from the 70-80's. Hackman's Luthor was great and the movies had their memorable moments. Calling it a "steaming pile" is just silly. I'll bet 90% of these talkbackers here have said "Kneel before Zodd" in a passing joke. The movies were fun and campy, but they're a bit part of our childhood and I respect the efforts of the film makers. At the time, it's all we had...just like the Hulk and the T.V. Spiderman, with the guy climbing a rope on the side of a building.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Jim Caviezel? NO, NO, NO...and oh yeah, NO.

    by Melisande

    Jim Caviezel is just so goddamn creepy. He is so far from being the Superman type that I'm inclined to think that anyone who wants him for the role is either joking or smoking copious amounts of crack. His eyes are sunken, his face is entirely asymmetrical... He just does not inspire the confidence that Superman is supposed to.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 12:16 p.m. CST

    nicole 21 so wrong about the True Superman Fans...

    by paulyd30

    Nicole21, Desk already proved you wrong on the CNN poll. Your "the Welling problem" post was totally off base and misrepresenting the facts as well. It seems allot of posters here could care less for your over top false comments about Superman and other issues. I did not say all true superman fans love Tom Welling, I said most true superman fans support Welling in the role of superman. Not to mention Christopher Reeves himself. This is known to be true according to all the polls, TV, comic book shops and the internet. "Straw poll at the local comic book shop".. so funny ..it is obvious you have never even stepped foot into a comic book shop or even read a Superman comic. I only say this because I am currently a part owner of a comic book shop. It seems to me you are not even a Fan of Superman, so stop pretending. "Smallville ratting never been big" ? Sorry totally wrong there too. The only cultural impact Lois and Clark had was Terri Hatcher.. "Caviezel embodies superman" not hardly. Welling has already proven himself to the real fans that he already is Superman. You do seem to be a big fan of Jim Caviezel though. As most posters have posted Jim Caviezal is TOO OLD to play Superman right now ,get over it already. Jim Caviezel is a good actor but not Superman. TOM WELLING is the most SUPERMAN FAN supported choice right now for Big Blue. Take it from a comic book geek who is in the know.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Pink

    by Desk

    I like pink very much, Nicole.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 1:37 p.m. CST

    In response to Nicole21's response to me

    by jim

    I have to start by saying I don't have to visit Canada because I live there (here). And despite what you think, I don't hate Americans. I don't know anyone that does (well, there is that woman in the Liberal party who said "I hate those bastard" but I don't know her personally). Nor do I know anyone who "hates" George Bush (maybe I'm hanging out with the wrong crowd?) but anti-Bush sentiment is not restricted to the Great White North. Only a very small percentage of those 100 thousand in NYC were Canadian. What you say about how "Liberals in Canada (and the Liberal Party of Canada) DEFINITELY see Evangelical Christians and Orthodox (believing) Catholics as evil and inferior to the rest of the populace and a threat to democracy" is your opinion, how you see it. I don't see that. Granted, it may be a case of not seeing the forest through the trees. I'll keep that in mind. I don't think you are "oversensitive" but you are nonetheless sensitive to issues that go against what you believe and you seem to have a tendency to take things personally. My advice is to sometimes try looking at things from a different point of view. There are usually other factors involved and while actions taken may have a negative effect on your belief structure, that result was not necessarily the intention. I believe there are always at least two sides to every argument. For example, you mention the CRTC allowing Al Jazeera but not allowing Fox News. This may be due to an anti-right agenda by the Gov't. Or it may be that CBC and CTV's 24 hour news stations don't want the competition (they already compete with CNN for viewers). Personally, I don't want to watch Al Jazeera, nor do I want to watch Fox News. What I want to watch is HBO (when oh when will they allow that on this side of the border?). I have no problem in someone expressing their opinion so long as they are open-minded enough to equally respect the opposing opinions of others. So your arguments may have merit but I don't see things the same way because my experience has shown me different. But I do agree that Jim Caviezel should play Superman and not Tom "Superboy" Welling. And in answer to your question to paulyd30, I think it is a trick question and the answer is "you're not wearing underwear".

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Patrick Wharburton for Supes. Puddy would be perfect...

    by StoneMonkey

    Puddy, The Tick, the would-be killer who got knifed in his back in SCREAM 3. He's perfect.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Superman: The (Crappy) Movie

    by cybertrent

    Donner's vision tripped itself up the MOMENT the film arrived in Metropolis. It went from a film wtih a real life tone to a fucking comic book. Donner and the screenwriter of the film BOTH say so themselves on the fucking DVD commentary. Speaking of which, I can't be the only person in this Talk Back who owns it. Check out the DVD extras again. You fuckers can praise the Salkinds all you like, but they were a bunch of dishonest crooks who did more harm to the production(s) than good. Reeve was great in the role, Brando was great and Williams's score ruled. Nobody is disputing any of that, so fuckin drop it already. While you're watching DVD extras, please keep in mind that Mario Puzo didn't really contribute anything to the film. He and the Newmans were given credit either to lend the film credibility (Puzo) or else for Guild contract reasons (Newmans). Lex being a crappy villain, the campy tone of the film's second half and the POS time travel ending of the film all add up to Superman being a MEDIOCRE movie, it's other strengths be damned. Of course, objectivity was never a quality of most Talk Backers. Fucking idiots.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Nicole21's underwear

    by cybertrent

    And duh, Nicole21 is wearing a thong.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Nicole...

    by Alatar_Blue

    ... you're exactly the type of right wing religious whacko that scares the crap out of thinking individuals with even a trace of secular sensibility. You lot get that deluded semi-literate crusader re-elected and we're all in for a shit storm, regardless of race, creed, faith or affiliation. Maybe I'm crazy, but relgious nuts scare me, regardless of which particular cult they individually happen to subscribe to: "Believe as we believe, or we'll kill you..."

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Melisande

    by oh_riginal

    Now that you mention it, J.C. is kinda creepy looking, lol. Imagine a creepy Clark Kent watching from across the street, with his hands in his pockets. Some crime happens, he rips his shirt open and flies off, no emotion in his face whatsoever. This sounds a lot like a J.C. Superman to me, lol.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 4:09 p.m. CST

    OK, LET'S GET A FEW THINGS STRAIGHT HERE

    by bushsux

    One: the 1978 Superman movie was a nice movie that will definitely be better than this upcoming p.o.s. Wasn't it written by MARIO PUZO?! Hackman is a good actor and none of these actors today can do half the job Christopher Reeve did. Two: God does not hate gay people. Republicans hate gay people. Many closet gays hate gay people. God can care less about whether Tommy likes it in his poop chute or if Tammy likes to get her tuna taco eaten by another woman. God has more important things to worry about. Three: We need another Superman movie like we needed the Iraq War. Yeah, alot of people will be forced to participate in it but it is unnecessary and ultimately a waste of time and money. (A waste of life in the case of the Republican war) Four: Al Jazeera sucks, Fox News sucks too. Al Jazeera is the Fox News of the middle east, right-wing, biased and helping to fuel hatred. Now that you got those things straight you should be ok.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Cybertrent and voicebox are both right...

    by ewokstew

    Yes the film by today's standards (as a whole) is mediocre. But that is more in terms of effects and production design (and a very stupid "can you read my mind?" sequence). On the whole I enjoyed the film and think it has some of the most amazing scenes even by today's standards. (I'm thinking of the "leaving Smallville" sequence when Ma Kent wakes up at the crack of dawn and sees Clark standing out in the field. Accompanied by John Williams score that was and still is an impactful scene). Lex Luthor being comedic didn't bother me, I do prefer Smallville's Lex, but that's my opinion. Yes, OPINION, you guys. Everyone has them and they're not meant to be law. So lets take off the boxing gloves and make nice. Life is too short for this kinda crap...

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 5:37 p.m. CST

    superman

    by pablo2004

    Don't waste a good actor in an action role. Seriously,very little acting is involved. I cringe when I see a good actor like Wesley Snipes reduced to looking tough and spouting catch phrases in a piece of shit like Blade. Action movie stars only need to be buff. Hire a model for the role. Chris Reeve was never a good actor despite all the post accident revisionism. Nicole-if the left demonizes the xtians it's only because they try and force the rest of us to live by their moral code. It's the left that keeps this a free country, the xtians will make the US a xtian version of Iran if give the opportunity.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Mace Windex/Adulthood

    by BTR 1701

    According to the IMDB, Welling was born in 1977. That makes him 27 years old. I don't know what your definition of "adult" is but every one I've ever seen says Welling is one. The only thing he's not old enough to do is run for president or retire and draw Social Security.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Warner Brothers

    by MaulRat

    Do you see the passion of the Superman fans?, do you see the fueding?, see the investment in the characters?, take that on Board, do what you did with Batman, and cast someone people who love the books will go see. I like the idea of J.C. playing Superman based solely on his facial features, demeanor and acting chops, however, if you want a relative unknown who looks the part and could pull off Clark, then I also agree that Daniel Cudmore (X2) is an excellent choice, chiseled, built well, he's already worked with Bryan Singer, he has no exercised his option to do X3 (because he wants a shot at supreman) and since the average man is around 6ft, can you imagine a slow mo' Road to Perdition type walk down the streets of metropolis, with the 6'8" Cudmore towering over the masses, wearing Clarks suit and his black rims, Clarks inner monologue over the soundtrack.. niiiice.. *BAMF*

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Superman is the lamest

    by Phat_Elvis

    Ive never understood why ANYBODY would give a SHIT about superman. GOTTA BE the least compelling comic character ever. Except maybe .... Nope. I cant think of any gayer (izzat a word?) hero. He is the least compelling.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Mace Windex

    by oh_riginal

    So Christopher Reeve was SUPPOSED to play a non-emotional Superman in the old movies?? Hmm, he must not be a good actor then, because I seem to remember him being very opposite of a non-emotional character.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Heres to hoping this movie stays in development hell so Singer c

    by oh_riginal

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Seriously. Help: get it. Have you listened to yourself?

    by Rain_Dog

    You are a whacko. I have a lot of friends who sit almost as far to the right of the political spectrum as you do (I say almost because I suspect even Limbaugh might want to distance himself from your paranoid rantings if they were expressed in a forum of slightly more significance than an AICN talkback), but I'm always happy to engage in debate with them because they're NOT INSANE. You, on the other hand, are totally unworthy of bothering with. Consider yourself ignored as of the end of this post. I suggest others do the same. Of course, this will make me a typical racist anti-semite totalitarian lefty scumfuck who is trying to silence the noble, downtrodden Right - but I don't care. You're a loony, I am sane, and I have far better things to with my time than argue with you. Goodbye. (Note: My dad's an Irish Catholic. I love my Dad. He believes in God, but he's not a bigot. I hate the Vatican, because they believe in God and use it justify bigotry which is based more on fear and loathing than scripture. My friend Hernan is an extremely devout Mormon who is also fairly close friends with another friend of mine who is gay. The Mormon church promotes hatred of gays, as do most churches, but Hernan is intelligent and enlightened enough to know that that's the church heirarchy talking, not God. In closing, I agree whole-heartedly with ebonic_plague - bigots of all stripes should be marginalised, because bigotry has no place in a civilised society. I respect their right speak their mind, sure. I even respect their right to attack funerals waving "God hates faggots" banners, as long as they, and you, Nicole darling, respect my right to call them the ignorant Neanderthal throwbacks they are and make every attempt to ensure their views don't become the views of the majority.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Gayzilla, go fuck yourself - Jesus IS Superman

    by Brundlefly

    I think Jim Caviezel would be a great choice for Superman. I liked The Passion, it was fucking hardcore and frankly there aren't many of those kinds (uncompromising, heartfelt) of films being made anymore. I think that Bryan Singer being gay has FUCK ALL to do with anything - Jim Caviezel isn't a bigot, he can believe whatever the fuck he wants. Filmmakers work with all kinds of people of all kinds of sexual/political/religious persuasion. Do you think that the entire cast & crew of X men were gay??!! ...and by the way Tylemol, why the fuck should Gibson NOT get paid for The Passion - the guy put up his own cash, risked his own fucking credibility & career and made a smash hit film. A lot of people wanted him to fail and it pisses a lot of people off that he didn't. Admittedly there was a ready made market but christians are a fickle fucking bunch and it could well have gone the way of Last Temptation - besides Mel was Mad Max and as a result, he doesn't need to justify himself to anyone, ever.

  • Sept. 1, 2004, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Angry.

    by williamthebl00dy

    Angry. Angry people in here.

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 12:21 a.m. CST

    The Dream Cast

    by Bronzewood

    For starters Welling already said when smallville began and every season since that he won't play superman on the big screen, and wb won't let him and since they own his soul and said that it would confuse smallville viewers because they're all retards, he can't play superman in the movie. Superman/Clark Kent: Will Smith Young Clark: Third kid from the left from Master and Commander Lex Luthor: George W Bush Lois Lane: Ellen Jimmy Olson: Fred Savage Perry White: Tudy from the facts of life. Ma and Pa Kent: The cast of Aqua Teen Hunger Force. This movies going to suck!

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Another Dream Cast

    by oh_riginal

    Superman: Steven Seagal Clark Kent: Lorenzo Lamas Young Clark: Mel Gibson Lex Luthor: Will Smith Lenny Luthor: Martin Lawrence Lois Lane: Kathleen Kinmont Lana Lang: Kari Wuhrer Jimmy Olsen: Jean Claude Van Damme Doomsday: Hulk Hogan Young Doomsday: Bruce Campbell Gratuitous nude cameo: Elisha Cuthbert Batman cameo: Tom Welling Young Batman cameo: James Caviezel

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 4:51 a.m. CST

    Rain_Dog

    by DocPazuzu

    Well put. Nice dismantling of the idiotic double-talk in here.

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Just do X3 and then do Superman...

    by Jon E Cin

    Please?

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 7:14 a.m. CST

    No way!??!

    by Mr Chuff

    I seriously thought this was a film site... sorry guys I seem to have wandered into some fucked up childish political twat-rant site... by the way, Jesus doesnt exist. Just a character in a book guys... not a very good book at that.

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 8:21 a.m. CST

    The Millar Challenge

    by Medieval Guy

    From his forum: "First up, this isn't an attack on Harry. I love him and check out his site every day. We love the same movies and seem to have the same pop culture obsessions and would doubtlessly get on like a house on fire should we ever meet. "That said, just to hammer home how confident I am as regards my source (pretty much as good as it gets), I will personally write a cheque to charity for 1000 dollars from my Wolverine royalties (Wolverine 20 and 21 out October 2004) if Jim Caviezel isn't cast as Superman on the day principal photography starts. Warners may have a couple of PR stunts planned prior to the final announcement, but this is a bet that Jim C is standing there in a Superman costume once the cameras start rolling. "Now is AICN so sure of their sources that they will do the same? "MM"

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 9:38 a.m. CST

    I've been in and out of this talkback

    by Mr Chuff

    I've made 3 posts (including this one). I have to say that this is probably THE most off-kilter, off-topic load of shit I've ever seen on AICN. Why doesnt everyone STOP and think about what you're all ranting about... A FUCKING SUPERMAN FILM!?! Is it REALLY worth all this wank over a few words from The Ginger Jabba? Fuck this... I'm off to Dark Horizons.

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 9:42 a.m. CST

    and just to add....http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/#3

    by Mr Chuff

    2 September 2004 Caviezel Poised To Sign Superman Deal The Passion Of The Christ star Jim Caviezel may be ready to sign a deal to star as Superman in the long-awaited new film Superman Returns. The hunky actor - who movingly portrayed Jesus in Mel Gibson's controversial epic - is said to be very close to an agreement with studio Warner Bros. despite his agent's recent insistence the part had not yet been offered to him. Big name stars such as Jude Law, Josh Hartnett and Brendan Fraser have already been offered, and turned down, the role.

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Erm Nicole, we were talking about bigotry?

    by Alatar_Blue

    Like with President Bush's "Faith Based Initiative"(?) Which to this day has not given one PENNY to any faith based service organization that does not subscribe to either Evangelical or a Fundamentalist Christian belief sets. Not one dime to any organization run by Jews, Muslims, Native Americans, Buddhists, Hindus, CATHOLICS, you name it. Now, why again is it that you like this guy Bush so much? The man who believes "God wants him to be president"?

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 10:06 a.m. CST

    :00

    by ScaryJim

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN... wtf have we got here ? how long is this thread ? *obligetory bullshit speech * I thought the passion was way over rated , Jesus frankly bores the fuck out of me, christians bore the fuck out of me and film representations of superman bore the fuck out of me because we've all read the comics we know where he came from , we know what he does but frankly if they make another one they'll have to do all the origin shite again . you know , for the kids... yeah u can have ur jesus cavriezezeseal (whatever) for superman i don't give a shit, lets just hope he doesn't do anything as predictable as die on the cross and rise from the dead after 3 days ... hey all of a sudden the doomsday death of superman scenario seems a good idea...*goes back to sleep *

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 10:09 a.m. CST

    ur right there

    by ScaryJim

    yep Bush is a cunt and religeon is evil and predominantly the cause for all war . Nice Job God ..ta for that then.

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Wanna Bet?

    by Karl Childers

    http://www.superherohype.com/superman/index.php?id=1950

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 10:32 a.m. CST

    My money's on Millar being correct over Harry.

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 10:48 a.m. CST

    'make up ur minds already'

    by ScaryJim

    who r 'you guys' r u reffering to lefty chumps like myself ? cos personally i'm so fucking left wing i'd like to see the human race expend itself so that our rotten excuse for a species doesn't fuck up this planet anymore for everything else . Also if u just said 'make up ur minds already' and u AREN'T a yank you should be hanged , if you are a yank i'll let u off , ten years of watching friends has probably taken it's toll on your nations evolution . if u can call it that .

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 11 a.m. CST

    sorry

    by ScaryJim

    hard day at work an all .. i take it back i'm falling into the talkback trap of trying to get a reaction .. I still don't understand what YOUR point was Nicole 21 . I don't hate Jesus , i don't hate Jim cavriezelelzel, and i hope all the children can go and start a colony on some far off planet away from the shit of the human race where religeon and resources and sexual orientation don't matter . so Nicole 21 TELL US i suppose you'd have the russians storm that school huh ? war on terror and everything?

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 11 a.m. CST

    Harry is wrong Caviezel will probably be signed

    by Spacesheik

    And if he is, that would be great news for fanboys. WB will have a great two punch combo with christian bale as batman and jim caviezel as superman -- two quality actors.

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 11:04 a.m. CST

    voicebox

    by ScaryJim

    ok you have answered my question . i'll let you off .

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 11:58 a.m. CST

    MARK MILLER MADE MY DAY! CAVIEZEL IS SUPERMAN AND I CAN'T WAIT T

    by jericho1368

    YES! Now I can safely say that I can't WAIT to see this movie! This is going to be bigger than Burton's Batman! Caviezel = Quality! Caviezel Rules! Superman 2006! Start your engines....!

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 12:05 p.m. CST

    ...

    by ScaryJim

    i'm glad you find the positively hilarious situation with the chechyans funny. :0/

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Harry? What no rebuff?

    by BlackHarryPotter

    So is Caviezel Supes or not? The whole world seems to think so except you? Why? What do you know that we don't? If your sources are reliable, then tell us why, or you must do as Ming commands and fall on your sword. Personally I think the casting of Caviezel is superb! But if it aint so, Harry, SAY SO!

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Lex...

    by stlfilmwire

    Lex could be either Gene Hackman or Vincent D'nofrio. Or maybe something like that... I dunno.

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Caviezel is probably in, let's hope they use John Williams score

    by Spacesheik

    that would make our days -- hearing williams score on the big screen again with the wonderful credits in space...

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 3:24 p.m. CST

    superman!

    by ScaryJim

    heh it's funny voicebox i'm not from ur country so i'm not a republican or a democrat. kerry seems such a weak willed fuck that he'd probably do just as bad a job going too far the other way . I'm sure if he gets voted in he will have possibly the same hate as Bush has generated for all the opposite reasons. I just find the whole showdown of the elections a bit of a joke, it's like ur buying the brand with the best advertising ..BTW if you knew why i got the name ScaryJim you'd laff so I won't tell u, anyway i'm not going to stoop to name calling ..APOLOGIES SUPERMAN FANS for hijacking ur discussion. Christopher Reeves could still be Superman ! ffs they have used CGI for worse things, Donald sutherland for Kal el !no.. i don't know why..

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 3:30 p.m. CST

    gene hackman ?

    by ScaryJim

    wasn't he in superman 2 or 3 or something ? i can't remember .. the one with the three bad dudes i think one got turned into a robot for some reason and then they got trapped in.. um.. glass and thrown into space by supes? or was he lex? am i confused ? :0/ damn ..

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 3:42 p.m. CST

    luthor

    by ScaryJim

    ahh it's all flooding back now.. gene hackman as luthor.. it just didn't register cos he's not bald..

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Yet Another Dream Cast

    by oh_riginal

    1. Superman: Eminem... 2. Clark Kent: Chris Tucker... 3. Young Clark: Jackie Chan... 4. Lois Lane: Paris Hilton... 5. Lex Luthor: Ray Benzino... 6. Lenny Luthor: Christopher Reeve... 7. Doomsday: Ja Rule... 8. Young Doomsday: Butterbean... 9. Batman Cameo: (still) Tom Welling... 10. Young Batman cameo: James Caviezel... 11. Jimmy Olsen: Will Smith.

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Gayzilla...

    by Brundlefly

    " I know it's the differing beliefs that makes America great, I would never dream of legislating my belief upon anyone" Then shut the fuck up!!! P.S. Caviezel for Superman!

  • Sept. 2, 2004, 10:12 p.m. CST

    the important stuff (panties!)

    by Voltron Lions

    well, what kind of undies are you wearing Nicole? don' t leave that mystery unanswered.I' m wearing a pair of blue hanes boxer briefs. nice and snug, so my lil' fella feels safe. although, I might start wearing red briefs, on the outside of my pants, in honor of Superman.

  • "notorious homophobic", "agoraphobic", "anti-blah, blah blah", "control freak". WHO CARES!!!! Stop posting all these shitty rumors complete with so-called "proofs". Damn you guys are so taboid!!! WHOOOOO CAAAAAAAAAAARES!????!!!! You guys feel good about yourself posting all these shit without realizing you're only putting the man's name on the rumors circuit and that only means more money for him.... and oh... those who are supporting Mel can suck my ass too.

  • "notorious homophobic", "agoraphobic", "anti-blah, blah blah", "control freak". WHO CARES!!!! Stop posting all these shitty rumors complete with so-called "proofs". Damn you guys are so taboid!!! WHOOOOO CAAAAAAAAAAARES!????!!!! You guys feel good about yourself posting all these shit without realizing you're only putting the man's name on the rumors circuit and that only means more money for him.... and oh... those who are supporting Mel can suck my ass too.

  • "notorious homophobic", "agoraphobic", "anti-blah, blah blah", "control freak". WHO CARES!!!! Stop posting all these shitty rumors complete with so-called "proofs". Damn you guys are so taboid!!! WHOOOOO CAAAAAAAAAAARES!????!!!! You guys feel good about yourself posting all these shit without realizing you're only putting the man's name on the rumors circuit and that only means more money for him.... and oh... those who are supporting Mel can suck my ass too.

  • Sept. 6, 2004, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Forget these Clowns

    by xcalibar25

    Michael O'Hearn, the actor that played the Man of Steel in the World's Finest Fan Trailer has tested for the part. I think he is a better choice than JC (I mean Jim, not Jesus!) or Tom for that matter.

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