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ALIEN VS PREDATOR knockdown drag out fight scene!

Published at:  Aug 05, 2004 5:37:54 AM CDT

Hey folks, Harry here... Well - ya know... I hate being right about Paul W. S. Anderson movies. I do. I wanted to love each of his films. And specifically the thing that drives me crazy about the guy is that his trailers, soundbytes, clips ALWAYS look great. He's a master of putting together tiny glimpses of cool, as well as being a master of fucking it all up. BUT - I keep pulling for the guy to make a chump out of me. The below clip is pretty fucking cool. I really really dig it. BUT - the PG-13 sends a portent of suck in our general direction... when you put two R-rated series together in a watered down form... Of course... if most of the violence is aimed at Aliens and Predators, as opposed to human... it could still be badass at that rating. But then... the few tidbits I'm hearing from folks that have seen it claim it is his worst film. That kinda boggles the mind. I mean - if it is a terrible steaming pile, i guess we can take solice in that it has at least provided cool new toys for us to have, the plush Alien and Predator will make great gifts for my nephew! Here ya go:





Harry,


You probably have seen this (haven't seen any reference on the site though). I came across a short clip from AVP-a melee fight between a predator and an alien. With all the bad press this movie's been getting, and the news of the PG13 rating, I'm as skeptical as everyone else. The Alien fan in me wants this to be good, but I wait cautiously. This action sequence looks very well done-no CGI from what I could tell, and the 2 seem to be knocking the shit out of each other. Maybe it will be bearable.


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    Readers Talkback

  • Aug 05, 2004 5:42:59 AM CDT

    Let's hope this is no SOLDIER

    by spacesheik

    The trailer looked like it had eye candy but shitty characters, lets hope the action aspect salvages the film.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 5:48:28 AM CDT

    i

    by cuervojones

    well i like Freddy Vs Jason, so who knows

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  • Aug 05, 2004 5:59:18 AM CDT

    hey look! its a short fat predator!

    by babba-booey

  • Aug 05, 2004 6:01:43 AM CDT

    That was hot.

    by harosa

    Man, this movie might suck balls but that scene was great, the Alien fx looked great and the Predator was bad ass but I guess thsi movie will get no love on this site, no matter what the final result is.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:05:12 AM CDT

    no subject

    by optimus122

    Man I cant believe this dude has probably screwed up this movie , but that clip does look cool. Cameron needs to take the series back to right after ALIENS and make a blockbuster finally to the whole thing..I no this isnt supposed to be a sequel to those movies but this could have been a good movie , i will still watch it but I am sure it will suck.

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  • Your damn right he's short and fat. Have any of the films crew seen the original predator? And what's with all this wall smashing lately. When did you last see an alien smash anything with its tail. Wouldn't he have also been splatted when the predator swong him into that wall too, at least it may have been more fun to watch. This is going to be one gimp of a movie - a tombraider at best.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:12:22 AM CDT

    90% then nothing

    by first

    i tried twice to watch it but it just gets to the 90% mark (of download - no picture) and hangs both times ... any ideas ???

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:17:32 AM CDT

    Predator

    by dolph

    Looks like some steroid beefcake! Can't see him navigating forest trees! Too stocky...should be athletic!

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:20:12 AM CDT

    I'm a natural optimist

    by scarranhalfbreed

    I'm probably the only person in the world who liked Event Horizon, and jumped in all the right places (although it got silly towards the end). I don't care that this'll be a PG-13 - PG-13's (or 12As as they are in England I think) can be nice and juicy. Terminator 3 was shown uncut in England with a 12A certificate. I couldn't tell if the "fat" Predator looked good due to the quality of the clip on my shitty computer, but the Predator swinging that alien around the room made a tiny bit of wee come out.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:23:11 AM CDT

    It's a clip from a W. S. Andershit movie? I don't even need to w

    by salvatoregravano

    Or the contents. Let me guess - stroboscopic lightning, quick cuts, background hullabaloo that dominates the foreground, loud punches, no trace of any story, and headache-and-earache-inducing roars and noises that constitute what Anderscum believes is "music".

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:25:38 AM CDT

    Pathetic

    by big-boy-bob

    Looked like two fricking Power Rangers Baddies battling it out. What a load of shite this film is gonna be. Paul "Whats Style?" Anderson can suck Alien Balls in hell MoFo. This actually makes me feel angry, if this is the best the films got to offer. How could anybody possibly fuck this up???

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:35:17 AM CDT

    Hey you haters

    by harosa

    Hey, all you haters, show some balls and stay away from the film when it releases then if all you genuises know it will suck already and spare us all your prerelease whining. Shit, does anything on this site get a chance anymore? Obviously it doesnt work both ways if you look at the way Mori is handling this Scorched Planet stuff.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:35:59 AM CDT

    Buffering, buffering, OH LOOK A BLUR!

    by dolmes

    Anyone else have that problem?

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:40:18 AM CDT

    They're smashing each other through walls because...

    by scarranhalfbreed

    THEY'RE BIG AND POWERFUL! It illustrates the nature of these beings, the fact that being smashed through concrete doesn't faze them. It's a scene straight out of my day dreams. Whether the rest of the film is up to snuff is another story.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:48:17 AM CDT

    holy cow

    by burlivesleftnut

    You think that looks cool, Harry? I thought it looked incredibly lame. This movie is a stupid idea anyway. It doesn't matter who the director is.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 7:06:27 AM CDT

    predator smash!

    by ikillninjas

    looks like ass to me. wtf is this? the predator looks like a shrunk down fisher price rescue heroes figure. this is gonna be a bore. and i love the first predator movie, and predator 2 if only for the kick ass predator. i liked the alien franchise too, but that bitch is as old and dried up as sigourney weaver. -[ikn]

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  • Aug 05, 2004 7:25:03 AM CDT

    Its ironic....

    by cockknocker

    The alien series is run into the ground by a mediocre 3rd part and the dire resurrection. We thought that was the end, finally we get a film that many have wanted to see for years and fox make possibly the worst decision possible by hiring Paul fucking Anderson. I would go so far as to say that both franchises will never recover after this unless the public are a load of gullible morons....

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  • Aug 05, 2004 7:31:35 AM CDT

    lame

    by pushthebutton

    Wow, I did not care to see The Predator (a hunter) do hand-to-hand combat with an Alien. It just didn't feel right. The Predator isn't The Hulk. And wouldn

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  • Aug 05, 2004 7:33:13 AM CDT

    Can't we get Renny Harlin to save this one?

    by nolaw4000

    It looks like fucking Mortal Combat..! Mortal Combat 2 even!

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  • Aug 05, 2004 7:42:49 AM CDT

    That was really....not good.

    by crowbot

    I'm gonna go cry now. one of my long-awaited movies has been ruined.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 7:59:12 AM CDT

    "Maybe it will be bearable".

    by mr brownstone

    this guy is obviously a plant.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 7:59:42 AM CDT

    Motherfucking Windows Media!!! Rot in hades Bill Gates you shite

    by regicidal_maniac

    Wake me when it's in QuickTime.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 8:04:35 AM CDT

    Like this was a surprise?

    by mr chuff

    I havent seen the footage (Yahoo is shite or my PC is... one or the other!) but like SO MANY PEOPLE have said before on this site (and others) "How the fuck and he gets this wrong!?!?!" All I wanna know is why they didnt just take the storyline from the original DH book and not fuck about with both franchises timelines. Because this pile is linked directly to the Alien AND Predator franchises it will dive and take those with them. Ridley Scott had already been quoted several times as saying he had been in talks with James Cameron about them both returning to the Alien franchise in some way IF this one was successful. Looks like thats out the fucking window then...

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  • Aug 05, 2004 8:36:03 AM CDT

    Ignoring source material.

    by messy_dwarf

    How many fantastic comic series have put these two behemoths clashing against each other? Why were these ignored? It is one thing to badly adapt a comic sorely misunderstood like the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, but to have loads of stories to pick the best from and not bother to use any of them is like adapting the Bible without cracking It open.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 8:41:53 AM CDT

    I'm sorry but.....

    by chinesejetpilot

    I remember seeing better fights scenes on Spectre Man when I was a kid. That looked one evolutionary step beyond man-in-rubber-suit to me.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 8:56:53 AM CDT

    That Was Kinda Cool.

    by chewblacca

    But unless I see a bunch of gushing reviews, I won't be seeing it.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 8:57:38 AM CDT

    I just don't get it . . .

    by tar heel

    What exactly is the point of this movie besides action sequences? Who are we supposed to root for? Where is the tension? "Alien" and "Predator" both had memorable characters and offscreen scares. This just looks like WWE Smackdown!

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  • Aug 05, 2004 9:07:10 AM CDT

    Buy the Predator DVD Special Edition

    by atari

    Comes out on 8/10 -- you get a free pass to see AVP. That way you have a great DVD for your collection and it doesn't cost any extra to find out if AVP is a steaming pile of shit.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 9:16:24 AM CDT

    I had high (well, medium) hopes for this

    by floyd gondolli

    Then they had to go tear them down because they just had to have an alien thrown through a wall. I am sick to death of people/aliens being thrown through walls. Why can't the predator just punch the alien and the aliens head could just cave in, i don't see how this is not possible if the predator can throw an alien through a wall. Oh well, i'll still go see it. Oh, and can we please get some uniformity on what name we use to refer to Paul WS Anderson. I suggest, Paul WS Anderson (Anderson for short) rather than Anderscum / Andershit,because name calling is just immature and not at all clever.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 9:22:06 AM CDT

    Oh come on....stop whinging

    by wyrdy the gerbil

    you know you will go to fucking see it if only to moan about it raping your childhood(cant believe i typed that)
    The trailer was ok, too small to see much but ok but even if the film was toally mindblowingly good you whinging Nazi film geeks would still complain

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  • Aug 05, 2004 9:27:55 AM CDT

    Yes, Paul W. S. AnderSONS - that will be his name.

    by salvatoregravano

    Do you know what language this refers to? No, of course not - after all, it's not taught in US schools, as far as I can tell. "Sons, sontis" - that's where the suffix is taken from. Look it up.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 9:43:43 AM CDT

    reminds me of a WWF fight...sigh

    by wschiff

  • Aug 05, 2004 9:47:39 AM CDT

    It was a bit hard to see, but it was....well that was cool...jus

    by big bad clone

    underwhelming.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 9:57:36 AM CDT

    Hate the GAME not the PLAYER

    by phanboi

    All you fuckin haters ... you'll all prolly there opening day. I despise all you fanboys. And thus ... I despise myself.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 10:01:48 AM CDT

    Paul Anderson raped my childhood!

    by mbaker

    Paul Anderson raped my childhood...Hulk Hogan should be in the movie, "Whoever wins, we lose, Brother!"....Bruce Campbell should play The Predator...Ripley is the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet...Alien has a beer, and cheats on Predator...This movie needs warewolves, and vampires...Ripley has a bomb in her ribcage....There needs to be a dead reped dear on the ship....Fuck Danny Glover....fuck him right up his stupid ass...Matrix / LOTR / Star Wars movies own all your asses...All your space are belong to scream...Greedo shoots first...George Lucas blah blah blah...All you fanboys should grow up and get a life....This is not new Harry, the same one was posted a week ago on alienvspredator.com....You're a poo poo eater...no you are... Yet another heapin' helpin of those yummy AICN Talkback cliches!!!!

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  • Aug 05, 2004 10:38:22 AM CDT

    sweet..that thing got a Himmey?

    by topcad

    I have to say that I chuckled when the predator grabbed the alien and swung it around like a bat. What the hell, I'll watch it.

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  • I'ma gonna get midieval on you ass! That's my territory, you whippersnapper, and ya'll best get to steppin! and by the way GEORGE LUCAS RAPED MY CHILDHOOD!

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  • Not anymore, I won't. I've learned my lesson. I won't care how cool the advertisements for this ... "AVP" ... may "look". The ONLY way I will EVER watch another one of Anderson's movies is if I hear/read MANY good things about it. And based on my TOO MANY previous experiences, that will never happen. -- Why couldn't we get James Cameron to write/direct "ALIEN 5" ... or to just write it and have Ridley Scott direct, which was previously rumored??? (I'd rather watch "ALIENS" for the 100th time than to give Anderson yet ANOTHER chance.)

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  • Aug 05, 2004 11:46:58 AM CDT

    WTF?????

    by redjak

    What a piece of shit! A fat, guy in a rubber suit, Predator with no decent moves whatsoever. The alien looked pretty cool, but they almost always do. Was it my download rate or was it all way to slow and clumsy? And the pace and editing? Sub standard at best. Another dream movie idea fucked up. What

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  • Aug 05, 2004 12:20:10 PM CDT

    Alien vs. Predator vs. Terminator: Skynet cybernetically modifie

    by jim jam bongs

    ...And starring Will Smith as John Conner!

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  • Aug 05, 2004 12:34:13 PM CDT

    Sweet fancy Moses. When MAN IN SUIT goes horribly, horribly wron

    by trav mcgee

    I think if nothing else the filmmakers should congratulate themselves for offering the by far most honest tagline in cinema advertising history. "No Matter Who Wins, We Lose" indeed.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 1:04:15 PM CDT

    see the real alien vs. predator film!

    by aquafresh

    http://www.probotproductions.com/alien5squared.htm

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  • Aug 05, 2004 1:10:17 PM CDT

    I just hope. .

    by macstone

    I just hope that we don't see this movie end with an Alien/Predator hybrid chasing the humans around. It'd be far too unimaginitive, but typical for a bad movie.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 1:16:38 PM CDT

    You guys all just got dupped

    by macstone

    That wasn't from Alien vs Predator. It was a scene from King Kong vs Godzilla!

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  • Aug 05, 2004 1:47:18 PM CDT

    that clip was kinda cool

    by rupee88

    the whole movie will probably suck, but that clip was somewhat compelling.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 2:42:05 PM CDT

    Reptile vs. Lui Kang > that scene

    by alwaysthere

    Sad aint it.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 3:45:10 PM CDT

    Simple Math

    by killing joker

    At the end of Aliens Ripley takes ONE gun, ONE flamethrower and kicks some serious alien ass. Fastforward to this pile of shit and ONE predator is having problems dealing with ONE alien. Are they tryinf to say say that Ripley is harder than an Alien. BTW I watched this on my mates home office computer which is the fuckin business for speed and shit and it was still jerkin its gherkin all over the place

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  • Aug 05, 2004 3:49:42 PM CDT

    You sorry bitches

    by harosa

    First you guys say you wont be there to see this(which we all know is a lie you fanboys) and then you bitches whine you'll only see it if it gets gushing reviews which proves what lemmings you fucking are.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 3:52:04 PM CDT

    Oops

    by killing joker

    I meant to say "harder than a PREDATOR". My mind went funny after trying to decipher that tangled mass of random images. I take it my versin stopped just before a steel cage was brought down and the Predator grabbed a microphine and started whooping and hollering to a make believe audience

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  • Aug 05, 2004 4:31:07 PM CDT

    Looked Cool To Me, and When has either Alien or Predator been hi

    by the founder

    Both were great creature chasing and getting humans flicks, but if some of you geeks are reading more into either of those films then you seriously need to get a life. Now I was as pissed as anyone about Anderson getting on board this project, but to be honest from what I've seen so far the film looks to be a good popcorn fest. I'll of course reserve judgement until i see the movie. If AvP turns out to be garbage, then stupid @ss FOX would have done what no other studio has done in history, and that is destroying two of the best sci-fi/horror franchises in one shot. It'll be Fox's lost.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 4:42:54 PM CDT

    THAT CLIP WAS ASS. YOU KNOW THE TROUBLE WITH PAUL ANDERSON...

    by obi12kenobi

    ...he doesn't have any respect for the subject material (not just for this film but in general) or the fans. I heard that his "research" for Resident Evil involved playing RE1 for a couple of hours. That's evident in the amount of content that he used for the film. I mean you could make a great movie from the content of the first game alone... And regarding AVP, I bet the motherfucker didn't read any of the comics. The battles are a lot more gracefully portrayed. The Predators are more agile and lighter on their feet. Not like the heavy clumsy looking fuck in that clip. Absolute shit! And now we suffer. No one will ever touch the Aliens VS Predator brand in the history of films ever. He's fucked it up for everyone.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 4:45:26 PM CDT

    OH AND ANOTHER THING...

    by obi12kenobi

    ...I wonder where he got the inspiration for swinging the Alien around by it's tail as it's head smashes the concrete posts. Doesn't look familiar... [cough] Blade 2.... [cough]....

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  • Aug 05, 2004 4:54:06 PM CDT

    Where is the tension?

    by lord_soth

    A fat predator look-a-like (I remember the term "giant midget" from one of the scoops and boy, that was right on) is fighting with an alien (which looks suprisingly cool, but that's not enough), like two motherf*cker wrestlers. Some serious fan should invest into a raygun to boil the brain out of Anderson's head...

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  • Aug 05, 2004 4:58:17 PM CDT

    The real battle this summer will be...

    by iamlegolas

    ... which movie will tank harder, CATWOMAN or AvP !!!

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  • Aug 05, 2004 5:32:15 PM CDT

    I hate movie that force me to pretend I'm nine years old..

    by jaguart

    Age 14 I can handle. But I hate checking my brain at the door, pretending I'm nine years old and spending my month's allowance on a tub of popcorn.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:19:44 PM CDT

    Alien + Predator Vs Freddy + Jason !!!!!!

    by moviepirate

    The Wrestlemania #25 will feature Alien and Predator Vs Jason and Freddy for the WWE tag team championship title with special guest referee The Rock and Arnie the Governator.Vince, you're de man!!!!!!

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:23:36 PM CDT

    That almost looked like a clip from a fan film.

    by prof. pop-cult

    Like that Batman one which featured Batman, Predator and Aliens. Is this a testament to how good digital moviemaking technology has come for the amateur filmmaker, or evidence that Anderson himself still has the moviemaking skills of an amateur? The mind is confounded.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 6:55:49 PM CDT

    Ugh

    by gilkuliehe

    No CGI?! You gotta be kidding me. Hey, McTiernan and Hopkins made the Predators look scary and eerie, this piece of shit looks like a baddie from a TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES... The Alien looks cool though, but the filming of the fight does seem amateur... Anderson I hate your fucking guts.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 7:27:38 PM CDT

    This is how the movie will probably end...Aliens win fair and sq

    by jim jam bongs

    ...Three humans (played by nobody Canadians actors) will barely manage to escape this. These survivors will include 1) a tough black female 2) a white guy who started the movie as an asshole but redeemed himself, and 3) the youngest member of the team, who will likely be a non-white male, or a little person/dwarf. The End.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 7:28:18 PM CDT

    something looks different here hmmmmmmm

    by themoog

    They changed the talkback!!! Wow I love what you've done with the place. BTW this movie ownz deez nuts =(

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  • Aug 05, 2004 7:28:51 PM CDT

    shit, I don't know, that was both shitty and awesome

    by gunnarcannibal

    Well, I am pretty sure this is going to lack any of the tension or greatness of either Alien or Predator but it might still be over the top fun, but it does look like a preview for a fucking video game and all of Anderson's seTs look cold, cheap and fake...this looks just like Mortal Kombat, a movie that both sucked and was kick ass (because it was so stupid) at the same time... things don't look good...I hope the studios realize that when this thing bombs it will be because it sucked not because there isn't an intrest for the characters...jesus, I have a crazy idea for the people at fox:
    why not make a GOOD ALIEN OR PREDATOR MOVIE? THAN PERHAPS PEOPLE WILL WANT TO SEE IT, TRY THAT, IT WORKED WITH ALIEN, ALIENS AND PREDATOR YOU BASTARDS!!!! Stop turning this things into piles of shit and perhaps people will be interested again!

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  • Aug 05, 2004 7:34:46 PM CDT

    SHARK V. ZOMBIE!

    by christopher3

    SHARK V. ZOMBIE! SHARK V. ZOMBIE!

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  • Aug 05, 2004 7:39:39 PM CDT

    What film were u watching?

    by harosa

  • Aug 05, 2004 7:40:52 PM CDT

    What film were u watching?

    by harosa

    Sorry for my non-posting. What Predator films were u geek swatching where the Predator was doing back flips and somersaulting over everybody? He always moved slow and was huge in the films.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 8:09:30 PM CDT

    to IAmLegolas

    by bouncy x

    catwoman was a huge ass major blockbuster hit compared to thunderbirds...so it doesnt matter if AVP does badly too. we already have the biggest flop of the year, possibly the biggest of the last 10 years. i mean sure thunderbirds didnt have high expectations or anything from anyone but it cost over 50 million to make and only made 2 million it's first weekend. funny stuff.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 8:35:13 PM CDT

    Don't know about this...

    by ewokstew

    listen to the dialogue. REALLY listen to it. It's contrived. One person says something in set up so that the person answering can make a witty or intense reply. This type of writing needs to stop. It's so prevalent in todays' action movies it almost goes unnoticed. Go watch ALIEN which has some of the most realistic dialogue of any movie let alone a sci-fi movie and see what I'm talking about. And even if there were a few snappy replies in that movie they were handled way more naturalistically than Salerno's dialogue. Hate to complain about the small stuff but that's where the trouble always begins.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 10:13:45 PM CDT

    Look At it this way

    by wolfmannards

    The fight scene was good, I must say. Look at it this way, if this was the clip they decided to release it could mean one of two things
    1) It could be a small taste of something great.
    2) It's one of the few good moments they could find with which to tease the public

    Im rooting for scenario #1

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  • Aug 05, 2004 10:29:35 PM CDT

    EVERY1 IS A CRITIC

    by mastersong

    all you puss nuts will be lining up to see this movie on the 1st day, so what are you whinging about! if its so bad without you seeing it, dont go!
    as for pg13 , the other movies didnt have too much human blood in it - who cares !! alien tails smashing stuff, name the last movie and alien was going beserk in a stone temple? fat predator? do they ALL have YMCA memberships on the predator planet ?
    1 million registered people on this site - 1 million directors / critics / production proffesionals too.
    loosers
    anderson has won because all u nerds are talking about it and will PAY to see it at some point.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 10:34:13 PM CDT

    also i didnt know

    by mastersong

    predators where confined to forest trees and aliens to spaceships. the pred is as fat as half you wads who spend waaaaay to long on the pc j/o to the vitoria secrets catalogue.

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  • Aug 05, 2004 11:28:38 PM CDT

    Can Something Be Crap and Cool at The Same Time?

    by the outlander

    I will reserve my judgement until I see it in the cinema with big sound, it may actually work better on a big screen.

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  • Aug 06, 2004 12:10:41 AM CDT

    PG13?????

    by moviepirate

    What the fuck!! you have the Aliens you have Predators and you don't have body parts and bloods all over the place???? Guess they made it into a PG13 instead rate-R so all you pussy can go see it.Have anyone see Ichi the Killer, now that was a fucking cool movie.

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  • Aug 06, 2004 12:57:13 AM CDT

    I saw a fight once between two 85 year old ladies over a plate o

    by lezbo milk

    PWA has never, ever, made a good film. In my opinion the one that sucked the least was Mortal Kombat, but hey, it still sucked. Now he is running amok with a hybrid mish mash of a few really good movies, and it's just sad. If there is a god, this film will fail horribly and all the suits in Hollywood will pull thier heads out of thier asses long enough to realize that this guy is a hack and has no buisness making movies. Not even home movies.

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  • Aug 06, 2004 1:21:30 AM CDT

    As far as fight scenes go, that didn't look so bad!

    by theginger twit

    I'm just a little worried about the whole point and subsequent effect of this film on the series.

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  • Aug 06, 2004 3:43:57 AM CDT

    PG-13??!!! Ok...this film is DEAD

    by spacesheik

    Apparently the studio honchos didnt learn anything from KING ARTHURS flop (edited down from R to PG13).

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  • Aug 06, 2004 7:27:55 AM CDT

    in what kind of planet are we leaving in?

    by mr ten

    As a movie director myself, im very disapointed in how this movie turn to be like. The scenario, and the context, is really weak for a movie like that. I would have done this in the future... anyway i can get over a crappy scenario if the confrontations between those incredible beasts are awesome, imaginative and breath-taking and if there's a deep atmosphere. Until now, from all i saw of this movie, it's a complete failure in boths aspects. The editing of this fight looks amateurish, the alien looks good but how they both move is a shame, especially predator. Look at him when he's getting on his feet, what kind of movement is that?!
    Again, and its getting very common in movies nowadays, the directors dont know how to handle the potential of fantastic creatures or super-heroes. They cant manage to think of the capacities of their character and the results are akward fights, and non-credible reactions of characters.
    I cant understand how great directors like Cameron or Verhoeven cant do the movies they want, while untalented directors get the green light for big projects. I cant see the logic in this, let the geniuses do what they want and they'll bring more money on the table that you could imagine.
    But give me some time, im coming in the big game pretty soon.

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  • Aug 06, 2004 7:43:40 AM CDT

    And I was hoping it wouldn't look like Mortal Kombat.

    by darksider

    It's worse. I'd imagine a Predator fighting smart, Blade style with ranged and melee weapons, tearing through numerous Aliens. If these guys hunt Aliens on a regular basis, I'd imagine they would have metal that would hold up against the acidic blood. The marines in Aliens seemed to fair better with machine guns and shotguns. Oh well. Maybe Henriksen and Weller still might be cool.

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  • Aug 06, 2004 8:41:45 AM CDT

    The clip does develop the character, guys...

    by zinc_chameleon

    If you take a minute and watch all the trailers, you'll discover this Predator--I call him GrillFace--is the ssme one who first attacks the humans. He's the smartass-troublemaker of the Predator group. (In the original story, he's the one BrokenTusk clobbers mano-e-mano on the spaceship.) Also, he's the one who has a date with the face-hugger, and finally breeds a Predalien, though he doesn't survive the birthing process. Kudos to Paul Andersen for differentiating among the Predators. Also, notice what a klutz he is as a fighter. He forgets about the acid blood, and loses his wrist blades. That's not an accident. He's a bully, not a warrior.

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  • Aug 06, 2004 9:51:41 AM CDT

    no subject

    by mr ten

    yeah you're right, at least the good thing is that they made the predators look different (which was a must). But i doubt that the director is really "feeling" the potential of those beasts.
    I was already affraid of the movements of the predator when the trailer hit the net, in a shot you can see a Predator jumping to avoid human attack. This jump was ugly, as if the predator is "running" in the air (yeah like in those old cartoons) instead of a real beast-like jump. They wanted to use cables and the result is very often ugly-looking. So of course Predators were never ninja-like creatures, but their strong points are their ability to battle, and they're supposed to be experienced. And here it looks like a bar fight with drunken people. But i think it could look ok with a different editing.
    I hope that the Alien he's fighting in this scene is not a "common" alien, because predators should be more superior in one on one fight with a simple alien, especially if he's the "badass" predator.

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  • Aug 06, 2004 10:55:31 AM CDT

    Not great, but not bad either.

    by sod off baldric

    That fight scene was pretty cool, though you can tell that Anderson must have been watching Blade II on the set that day as there are at least two shots cribbed almost directly from the Blade vs. Nomak throwdown. Anyway, I'm still iffy on this flick. I'll probably see, but I'll wait until it hits the budget theaters.

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  • Now that is some funny shit.

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  • Aug 06, 2004 11:44:20 AM CDT

    It'll rock!

    by fugazi32

    AVP will rock!

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  • Aug 06, 2004 5:13:32 PM CDT

    It'll croak!!!

    by jdanielp

    AVP will croak!!!

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  • Aug 06, 2004 5:37:44 PM CDT

    The finest effects 1985 has to offer

    by drfinkelstein

    I want very much for this franchise to work. It's two great tastes that taste great together...

    For a brief moment watching this it looks like it'll be fine. Then you start to notice the lumbering and boring way the predator moves and the cheats on camera angles to try to hide that the fight isn't very good.

    Aliens and Predator 1 & 2 managed a lot more compelling movement many years ago. There's still some hope here, but I think I'll wait for the buzz after the first weekend.

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  • Paul Anderson, Stephen Sommers, WHAT THE FUCK??!!

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  • Aug 06, 2004 11:13:32 PM CDT

    The 3 types of Predators are Warrior, Hunter, and Scout right?

    by bourne greyelf

    I would imagine the Predator in this clip to be a Warrior, because of his bulk and size, fit for Melee Combat. I would Imagive Hunters and Scouts to be more agile and athletic. I'd be nice if there was a Female predator scout, to add a little diversity to the trio. Anyway, the clip isn't TOO bad, if that was indeed, the bulky Warrior, BUT, if all the Predators look like that, then I dunno, looked pretty shitty. I just don't know enough about the situation to judge if its gay or not. What I DO know, is all the actors look like made for tv material, and their acting ability so far, judging from the trailers, looks equally tv material. They should have based the movie on the KICK ASS AVP arcade game from Capcom, that came out like, 13 years ago. That game had Dutch, from predator 1, some hot chick with a sword, and 2 predators, one a Warrior, and one was a Hunter. In the game, the Warrior was bigger and slow, while the Hunter was athletic and fast. So thats why I asked in the subject line if those were the correct terms for the predator types, because thats what they were called in the awesome game.

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  • Aug 06, 2004 11:19:34 PM CDT

    Looks Craptacular

    by roomonfire

    This looks pretty lame. Here's some reasoning about the level of violence: It's rated PG-13 b/c the demographic is 13 year old boys. If you are a mature adult and stoked about this movie, you are seriously tripping. Go to the hospital. Just like with Hellboy, watching these fight scenes is like watching someone else play a videogame-- fucking boring. I can't help but feel detached from it all. When the humans are kept to the sidelines, this shit gets old real fast.

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  • Aug 07, 2004 3:42:25 AM CDT

    Not 'Uwe-Boll-shitty' -- more like 'WS-with-money-shitty.'

    by smarkjobber

    I'm probably reiterating points from this and other AvP talbkacks, but what-the-fuck-ever. Nobody wants to see this movie with a PG-13 (has either franchise -- and I use that term lightly when speaking about "Predator" -- ever rated PG-13? "Alien" was probably released when PG was considered an R, right?). I'd be skeptical to see it even Rated R; WS Anderson blows no matter the rating or budget. The only semi-cool thing about that fight was the Predator swinging around the alien, and even that wasn't as cool as it would have been if someone else shot it. Anyway. This clip looked like a lost scene from "Mortal Kombat." Without the unintentional laughter.

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  • Aug 07, 2004 2:04:26 PM CDT

    That clip fucking sucked.

    by comicbookgeek77

    A fat man in a predator suit pulling of cliche moves. Fucking stupid. Yes, I will see this movie in the theaters, but I will pay for another film and then hop theaters. Fuck Paul Wes Anderson. I will not give him or this movie a RED cent.

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  • Aug 07, 2004 2:35:45 PM CDT

    To recap and further clarify

    by rick sparks

    (1) Alien tails are designed for skewering living things, not frickin' stone. (2) The Predator's hand had alien juice on it. It should have melted a bit and HURT him ("If it bleeds, we can kill it.") (3) NEITHER of these creatures should be able to smash through stone without enduring serious damage. (4) When the predator was swinging the alien into stone, the alien's head should have partially cracked open on the first hit, and then cracked more on the second. They're like bugs, those aliens... Hard on the outside, gooey on the inside. (5) Does the predator have a fukkin' SPRING in the middle of his back so he can levitate off the floor like that? Cripes. (6) This shit is not hard to think about. It proves they were shooting for a PG-13 all along, and tried to hop it up with exploding wall pieces and crappy edits. (7) No one knows how to make a sci-fi/horror movie anymore. Even the proposed script for the "DOOM" movie looks like mung. Wake me when 'Ring 2' comes out, at least the first had killer atmosphere.

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  • Aug 07, 2004 4:00:24 PM CDT

    Rick Sparks

    by docpazuzu

    To recap and FURTHER clarify
    Comment:
    Back
    Home (1) No limit has ever been established within the canon as to what alien tails can or cannot penetrate. (2) Nothing suggests that the alien blood spill DIDN'T hurt the predator. Which would you prefer -- the pred crying like a bitch after getting burned or rising to the occasion and kicking ass? Right, thought so.(3) Excuse me? And why not? Show me where that fact's been established. (4) Hard on the outside, gooey on the inside, sure -- but you're talking about creatures who can basically smash steel doors into metal shavings (see Aliens). Again, how do YOU know the limit for cracking that hard shell on the aliens? (5) Yes. It's the same spring the pred used in Predator 1 when it jumped from tree limb to tree limb while barely bending its knees, and in Predator 2 when it mysteriously levitated off the roof which Harrigan was standing on after the opening battle. Jeez... (6) Armchair quarterbacking much? (7) Doom IS fucking brainless -- as it should be: monsters blasted into oblivion by the hot lead and cold steel of a bloodthirsty marine.

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  • Aliens or Pred...not both???!!!
    I bet the geniouses at Fox will attirbute poor Box Office to lack of interest in the movie when they dont realize person they hired to make it...

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  • Aug 08, 2004 9:18:38 AM CDT

    Should Have Been Some Marines

    by evilrobot

    This should have been set in the future, and rated R. What would you rather have: 21st century humans getting cut up PG-13 style or a three way rumble between the aliens, preds and marines. I'll watch this when its on TNT next spring.

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  • Aug 08, 2004 1:56:49 PM CDT

    Without weapons and armor, that predator would have been stew.

    by nightwatchman

    'Nuff said.

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  • Aug 08, 2004 7:42:46 PM CDT

    Stupid PG-13

    by jawaburger

    fuck this movie

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  • Aug 10, 2004 5:56:14 PM CDT

    Further proof Anderson is the worst director in the business

    by mwhelan67

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