Damn, these Venom/Spidey 3 rumors just won't quit!!!

This is nothin' but a fart in the wind. It stinks and has no substance. Who's filtering the poop chute these days?

if they bring that IDIOTIC green goblin suit back with that little gaywad harry osbourne it would suck. venom/eddie brock are 1 of the coolest charachters in the spidey universe!FUCK the green goblin!BRING ON VENOM!

I don't get it. I think Venom is a crap character. I'm sure ten million of you will tell me otherwise, but it's not going to change my mind, just like my complaining isn't going to change yours. A Spider-Man movie with Venom would probably suck. A living costume from space? That'll go over real well.

I kind of felt like Raimi was setting up Venom in Spidey 2, or was at least giving himself the possibility of bringing him into the fold later on in the franchise.I have a sneaking suspicion that Jameson's son the astronaught will bring Venom back to Earth with him in a future movie. I think the comics were different which will piss off a lot of purists but any storyline which give's J. Jonah Jameson more screen time will make me a happy bunny.

So because a TV presenter inflects two words strangely, a story gets posted on AICN? Maybe, like a lot of crap TV presenters, they just used bad phrasing? And to interpret Black/White as Venom is a bit of a leap - couldn't it also mean Black Cat - who has a black costume with white hair?

heres the script...... harry goes mad and decides to become the green goblin BUT he also wants to DESTROY spidey so he creates a BLACK spidey suit, uses the super serum that drove his father mad snd starts robbin and hurtin people at night and they think its spider-man. somehow he spills one of his dads experiments from his lab on the suit in a fight with spidey and is injured and sent to the asylum.the suit is removed and tossed, AWAKENS but it needs a host.....this is where it finds eddie brock in an alley cursing spider-man and peter parker for ruining his life. they BOND ans form the ultimate villian VENOM!!!!!!!!!

Thsi stinks of fanboy geekgasms.

Black and White... Hmmm. Spidey's fighting a cow ?

As do their satanic offspring Busted+1, or McFly as the pre-teen, pantie creamers know them.

Lets see whos left? Lizardman, Chameleon, Shocker, Rhino, Tombstone, Morbius, Mysterio, Vulture, Hob Goblin, Hydro Man and Kraven the Hunter. None of them are particularly engaging are they? And Kingpins been done in the woeful DD.

The black and white look, the diabolical fangs...it could work, plus its perfect for CGI

My theory is that in the second movie a bunch of people see his face. So in the third, one of the people that saw him try to track him down. They assume he has a loot of cash somewhere... so they go to break into his apartment. That skinny girl that we have been introduced to tries to stop him and she is killed. Then the robber gets scared and escapes. After this, Mary Jane gives Peter no choice. He forces him to swallow his pride and move into her cooler apartment. And to protect his identity and assure that his costume never "fails on him", she tells Peter that she is going to ask her old boyfriend to give her the number to some old guy from Nasa who might be able to supply them with a stronger material... but of course she lies to him about the real use of the material. Well, the wrong package gets sent to her by mistake... and all heck breaks loose... or something cheesy like that. See, Venom is hard to do... because it's pretty out there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2004/07/09/sam_raimi_spiderman_2_interview.shtml Q. You're currently at work on the script for Spider-Man 3... A. I just finished this morning [Monday 12th July] - I mean the basic story. I'd been working on it with my brother. Q. The sense you get towards the end of Spider-Man 2 is that Peter Parker and Harry Osborn will face off in the third. Is that a fair assumption? A. Well I'm trying to... I can't tell you. Q. What can you tell us? A. It's going to follow the natural progression of the growth of these two individuals, Mary Jane Watson and Peter Parker. It will be a love story and it will track the relationship as they encounter new conflicts that separate them. And hopefully their own will and love for each other will bring them back together in the piece. Harry will be a problem, but I'm not certain if Harry will become the Goblin or not. The thing I'm really not certain about is if he comes to feel, "Now I have the means to destroy Spider-Man - I was too weak before but now I have a way and I will become the man that my father always dreamed I could be." Or, does he feel: "Now I understand why Spider-Man had to destroy him, because he was a mass murderer and now my anger can drain away from me." It could be an answer to a question and it ends the pursuit, but I'm not certain which way to go.

thank you, come again. Screw the space alien, go with the suit. Screw the sad sack reporter Eddie Brock, go with childhood friends and family/father connections. makes it alot more tragic.

SPIDEY'S BLACK COSTUME RULES!!!

...Return of Paste Pot Pete!! Personally I like the thought of Venom, but I'm not sure they will be able to pull it off in one film without him being a weak villain. I like the Hobgoblin story arc, but he needs to make his own cloth costume and ditch the power ranger outfit. That said if Venom was a background character it would be nice to see more misery poured on good ol' Petey as he battles one foe after another...then again we need a foe who doesn't know Spidey's identity, so that narrows anyone in NY :o)

Hi there, I would have agreed with you but for one thing. At MJ's wedding at the end Harry was wearing a green bowtie which very strongly suggests that he has wither a) already 'goblined' up, or b) has accepted that he will be goblined up in the near future. best

Excellent comic series! :)

I'm not holding my breath for the prospects of Spidey 4 being as big budget as the first 3. To do Venom right they need the CGI money that number 3 has set aside for it. I'm afraid if they wait too long we will get some third rate looking CGI. Come on Raimi, do the Lizard and Venom with just a bit of the Hobgoblin in number three, if you don't do it some lesser director will in the future. Third movie, three villians, besides you've always loved a challenge.

Because thats the only "villain" that I'll accept drooling in a Sam Raimi Spider-man movie. When Paul Hack Anderson makes HIS Spider-Man he can bring Venom in...

Black Cat has a black and white costume as well. Could he have meant her?

I mean black costume and white hair?

...what you say, they should do the Vulture next. Patrick Stewart or maybe Ben Kingsley...

There's no such fucking show as Infotainment. On a related note Venom is a crap character.

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I thought that was the reason why Venom hasn't shown up yet. Anyhow both movies are ridiculously overrated. The second movie was a re-hash of the 1st with slightly better effects. They nailed the Peter Parker character and his relationships, but where is the action? How could you have a really good almost great even action sequence (the one on the train) be the only real action sequence in the film? The movie was 2 hours long..... I don't think we'll see Venom in a Spidey film so I think people should just let it go.

If it's going to be Green Goblin again, they need to do something with the costume. The costume and that they used in part 1 looked like an android of a goblin. I'd rather see him look more like he does in the comics.

Too fucking right it is! So why post it? I've never heard of this TV show, and can you for one second imagine Sam Raimi whispering super-sequel-secrets to some unknown TV presenter, and then being "exasperated" when he immediately makes bullshit "hints" to camera? IN WHAT FUCKING UNIVERSE WOULD THAT EVER HAPPEN!?

That would RULE

designed especially for Harry. Harry you ARE aware that there is a website that (God knows why) has a forum specifically focussed on hoaxing you, right?

No Venom, yet...

George Lucas raped my childhood, the first two films sucked, the third will blow monkey balls....NO WAIT! WRONG TOPIC!...............................I mean, Sam Raimi raped my childhood, the first two films sucked, the the third will blow monkey balls............................Hulk Hogan should play Mary Jane Watson in the third...."Do you love me or not, brother?"..............Venom should be played by Bruce Campbell................................Venom is the sexiest beanpole on the planet...................This trilogy sucks, LOTR/Matrix/Spy Kids trilogy own all your asses...................................There! Does that cover all the usual TalkBack cliches or have I missed any?

I hope that they give him the menacing grin that he had when MacFarlain first created his look. And NO TONGUE! Since then the artists have gotten carried away making the teeth and tongue longer and longer each time. There was something about that original look that was much more creepy than what the character evolved into. Less is more.

http://ubb.empireonline.co.uk /showflat.php? Cat=&Board=matrix&Number= 718150&Main=718124 I split the link up so I didn't stretch the page.

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Start a Peter Parker/Spiderman/MJ/Black cat love quartet. Or it could be Charlie Chaplin?

For all the U.S peeps crying over some Brit dude getting a 'scoop' (maybe), are you all just jealous that the UK might be ahead of the game for the second time this year? Previously it was Kevin Smith saying he's thinking about not doing Green Hornet during one his first UK Evening With. Now this Black and white comment. In the words of John Lennon, "Cry baby cry, make your mother sigh, she's old enough to know better so cry baby cry".

No. . . No-one really cares about that. Besides, it's been far from established that anyone even got a scoop. Sounds more like a hoax that originated from the UK.

Green GOblin is obvious, Lizard isn't quite as obvious, although me might make an appearance. I think we may see a hint of Venom before the end, but if anything Venom would be in Spider-Man 4 (if there is a 4). I think either Jameson's son brings the Symbiote back from a space mission, or they use the Ultimate Spider-Man origin. They just can't do the Secret Wars thing. Either way, if anything we will only see a hint of Venom in the next movie. Oh, and has anyone considdered the pssibility that Doc Ock is not actually dead?

Only in the comics do people not die (except Bucky). They won't rehash Ock. On the other hand, they DID mention EDDIE BROCK by name in the first movie. Robbie says something like: "We can't get any good pictures of Spider-Man. We've had EDDIE on it for weeks and he's got nothing." Enter Peter with awesome pics. Eddie was a reporter with the Bugle but he kept getting scooped by peter and Spider-Man got him in trouble, which is why he hates him. ... I've heard.

For a start...infotainment? Never heard of it, and considering I'm a nethead that not ONLY has a constant connection to seti@home JUST BECAUSE it gives him something to look at at 4 in the morning, you can gather I watch alot of TV...oh yes indeed. Which channel is it on again? As for the black and white comment, how is that set in stone that raimi means venom? If you look at the end of spiderman 2 and if you go by NOT ONLY Spiderman but raimi's other movies such as the evil dead trilogy, you'd know he likes his movies when they run concurrently to run into eachother neatly. The only things that didnt make sense were Hercules and Xena, which, lets face it wasn't the best series in the world anyway. So yeah. Bullshit my friend. Do us a favour when you make up this bullshit and at least come up with something that doesn't sound even SLIGHTLY hokey. Besides, from a backing point of view, Fox Movies would rather go with safe bets anyway. Seriously. They played it pretty fucking safe with the pile of steaming poo that was HULK

I ran into Sam Raimi at a Super Target over the weekend. He was getting some socks and a lampshade and I was like "so, can you tell me what you have in store for Spider-Man 3" and he was like "I can't really say, the draft is done, but I can't tell anyone about it." So I told him I was a big fan from the Evil Dead days and that warmed him up so he leaned over and whispered that Spider-Man 3 is going to be, are you ready for this? Secret Wars. That's right. The main villain is going to be the Beyonder, and Raimi said he's always had a fondness for the detached omnipotence of the Beyonder and the black hair/white disco suit! It all makes sense now. He said he wanted to bring in The Lizard, that the film would open with a fight against the Sandman and Electro (a three-way fight opening scene!) and that the Beyonder would step in because there were getting to be too many super-powered beings. He then teleports Spidey and Mary Jane and Harry and the Punisher and Daredevil and Dr. Strange (they couldn't get the X-men which Sam seemed really bummed about) to his remote moon base where he stages a battle with Carnage, Venom, Electro, the Shocker, Mysterio, and Kraven! It's going to be awesome. Sam Raimi just can't keep a secret!!

you who run AICN will believe anything!!!!

Its obvious that he's talking about Cloak & Dagger. Or Power Man & Iron Fist, or Riggs and Murtaugh......

what he must have meant was that he wants to have that Michael Jackson song as the theme. Or maybe the movie is going to be in black and white.

so what if it's just a bunch of fake rumors? They get a lot of attention because hardly anyone wants to see the Goblin in Spidey 3. IMO, Vulture couldn't possible carry the main villain role, but he could hook up with, say, Lizard and that could be fine. I would LOVE to see Venom, and a lot of other fanboys would, too, so I think the Jameson as Venom is the way to go. Electro and Sandman are good, too. And Black Cat would be super terrific, but I don't think a woman in a cat costume is going to go over well with the studio right now.

If you recall in the comics, Harry became a very split personality, as his father did. Who's to say he doesn't decide to publicly denounce his father's evil ways, exposing the Goblin suit and technology, knowing Spiderman was right, and thus providing his darker 'side' with an alibi while hunting Peter Parker down and making his life miserable? The 'Good Harry' would have absolutely no clue what the 'Bad Harry' was planning out, ala "Fight Club", thereby making the conflict even more painful and tragic for Parker and the others who know Harry. I think it was time Harry's character got his spotlight, and it would reinforce the 'tragedy' element in the films and for all the characters involved.

Would make for a cheesy ending, but then, the that might fit in with the first 2 films anyways. (Hey, I likes my Spider-man movies, but this ain't rocket-science scripting, okay?)

Venom is a gimmick for boys going through puberty. Story-wise he's a weak character, and visually he's just a buffed-up, monstrous Spider-Man, which is hardly original. I'd pay to see Spider-Man fight the trio of The Ringer, The Shocker, and The Spot before I'd pay for Venom.

I agree, most of the main SM villains are corny and lame. The Vulture? Please. "Black and white" could just be journalese (as in print). I doubt it's Black Cat - after Catwoman, I don't think Raimi's stupid enough to throw it another catchick into a superhero movie. So maybe it's Cloak and Dagger. They certainly fit the black and white theme - she's all about white light and he's all about cold shadow. Besides, a chick villain would be cool for a change.

I think you'd pay anyway. If you don't like Venom, just say so; but don't try and piss people off by implying that only teenage boys should like him. Your post actually made me wonder if you yourself were a child. Does Mom know your online while she's at work?

I remember in a recent interview with Raimi, he said that while the story is basically done, he's still wondering about Harry's conflict. Here he has two choices: one being "Hah, now I have the means to take revenge on Spider-Man!" or "I realize that my father was a mass-murderer, and Spider-Man had to kill him".

Why do you old hardcore fans have to bring down us little ones with your condescending attitude? So what if Venom's new? He's still damn cool. What if they made a spider-man movie in the 1960's and all of you were like "Nah you can't use Doc Ock he's too new, stick to classic villains". Yeah I know Doc Ock was one of the earliest villains but I couldn't think of any villain that was created in the 60's, but you get what I'm trying to say. New villians have to be created. They can't use the same villians over and over again so you can't be biased against a villian just because he's new. Secondly most of the classic villains are lame "what animal or element can we use now" ideas IMO, and a lot of them are just lackeys ie. scorpion, rhino and aren't dramatic enough for a film. Venom offers something different IMO and he's a pretty dramatic villain. They could easily flesh out his character a bit more, and make his story a bit more believable by scrapping the whole "secret wars" thing and having the space shuttle with the alien symbiote crashland on Earth like it did in the animated series. Plus Venom means Carnage, and he's the villain I'm waiting to see. Enough with the tragic "nice guy turned bad" villians. Don't you think it's time for a villain who's pure twisted evil?

Spider-man 2 has to be one of the most critically overrated films since Minority Report. But I don't think the public bought it as SM2 looks to do way less than the original. If they have another Goblin in part 3 it'll be even more of a rehash. SM2 ended like 2 Akiva Goldsman movies - "Lost in Space" with a lunatic building a swirling ball of death and "Batman & Robin" with the repenting villian plus machine of death. Plus, MJ is ALWAYS in danger even without being Spider-Man's girlfriend, so what's the fricking problem? Speaking of Akiva, he co-wrote "I Robot" which, IMHO, kicked Spider-Man 2's ass! Yes, it too had a giant ball of death at the end but at least there was guns and other action going on, not just "The giant ball of death is getting giant-er!"

This is full of hot fart air. That doesn't mean shit!

Spiderman 3 (the final spiderman movie) -- We see spidey 2-3 yrs. after part 2. There are rumors about a lizardman roaming NY city street/sewers. Before spidey can get to lizardman; We have mystery man (Mysterio) gathering Lizard, Vulture , Sandman, Electro, Scorpion, Kraven the Hunter (maybe played by Bruce Campbell?) vs. SPIDEY! It can work, I tell ya.

Way back when the X-Files movie came out I remember seeing that black alien oil creeping over a body and thinking "wow venom would be bad ass if they did it that way". Im against the "alien costume" myself, just like im against a Dark Pheonix in X3. Basically because adding all that crazy cosmic shit in would be too bizzare for the average movie goer and the casual fan.

First off you can't have Hobgoblin or Greengoblin and Venom in one movie, that is too much. The movie alone would have to be four hours long because you can't have the story between Peter and Harry and the confrontation they have almost makes up an entire movie sticking Brock and Venom in makes it too conflicting. They set up for a Lizard and Goblin movie and I bet they are doing that next. They will save Venom for later since you need the set up of black suit Spider-man. The reason why Venom was so hard core in the first place is because he knew everything about Spider-man because of the black suit. So this is all made up crap, or Raimi maybe was talking about introducing Black Cat because Sony really wants that to happen, so probably they can make a spin off movie that will bomb just like Catwoman and just like hoe Elektra will bomb whenever that movie comes out. Whatever bring on the Lizard for Spidey 3 dammit, or Bruce Campbell as Kraven the Hunter!!!

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'Nuff said.

I want Mysterio played by Mr. Bruce Campbell! They could easily establish the

While the signs point to Harry, there were other people working for/with Norman who would know about the suit and the formula. Pretty much everyone who opposed it got killed by Norman, so anyone who came after them might have been involved in it. Harry also isn't above putting other people up to do his dirty work. In the comic there were a number of "fake" Hobgoblins basically forced into the suit. It seems like it is Harry but it would be cool if 2/3 of the way through the movie you learn that Hobgoblin is somebody else.- Black and white might mean that Peter is in B&W, rather than Venom. It could also mean Black Fox- Does anyone else find it weird that Sam is writing the film but doesn't seem sure himself who the villains will be? - I wish they would do the Juggernaut story since X-Men aren't using him.

that the mentioning of Venom in the next Spider-Man movie REALLY fucking sucks balls. If the sequel was any testament of Raimi listening to the fans--villain selection for the third installment will be the ultimate test. Introducting Venom in the Spidey mythos this early, I think, isn't all that great. I am also very understanding that there aren't too many of Spidey's vast rogue's gallery that would translate that well onto screen. Think about this one....has Marvel had ANY masked villains with the ultimate exception of Green Goblin (look how that one worked) in any of their movies? Captain America doesn't count, btw. Would Shocker or Mysterio even after "retooling" still look hokey? Probably. I think Spidey's already up on a pedestal that at this stage in the game they can't afford to fuck up the villain. The first two were powerful one two shots, but lots of people hated Green Goblin. If I were making Spidey III I would have two villains. People speculate it's gonna be Harry as GG II and Lizard. I think the next villain they should seriously go with is Kraven. I don't know what it is but he is a big part of the Spidey rogue's gallery. I'd like it if they made him some type of bounty hunter or something. Liev Schrieber would get the nod. I don't know what it is, but I really don't get this sexual tension between fans and Venom. Could someone explain it? Sure the guy has his moments in the comics but does that mean Spidey hasn't had a good villain in the comics from the 60 til '89. Because that's what will be percieved if they just "jump to Venom". Minor quibble but I think they should hold off on him. And if they do put Venom in there they better not pull a Bane, because it will automatically destroy the whole series, guaranteed. Venom is too much of a risk to have to do properly. He's one of those characters who is so beloved (not by me too much) in the Spidey mythos that even the mere change in his character will hurt the fan interest.

They totally laid it out for Jameson's son to go into space and get the venom symbiote. Jameson's son will become Venom. Harry will tell Jameson's son who Spiderman is. And this will make Jameson's son even angrier, because FYI: His to be wife Mary Jane left him at the altar for a certain Peter Parker, WHO! is also Spiderman... See how it is playing out? www.warp11.com, California's best Star Trek Band!

Conners is now established in the storyline, he's been made important to Peter, and since Conners has a relationship with Oscorp, he'll end up being used as a battlehound for Harry, and create more drama for Peter. The downside is, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THAT FUCKING STORY TWICE.

Does anybody really believe that Sam Raimi would even be appearing in this off-the-radar show no one's heard of? And even if he did, that he would tell the host of said show the secrets of the next film, "but oh by the way don't tell anyone"? Let's just open up our mouth for another shovelful, shall we? We all know that the next film revolves around the new Green Goblin and the Lizard. That was practically given to us in this last film. And by the way, without Secret Wars and the alien symbiote, there is no Venom. He made very little sense even with those storylines, but without them he's pointless. Give it up, fanboys. It ain't happenin'.

Personally, I dont want Venom in SPM3, but I believe that Venom is set up anyways. Go back to SM1, there is an explanation of different spider abilities in the lab where Peter is bit, and remeber someone saying that "some spiders change there appearence to match there environment". Well, the "alien costume" did do that, it could mimic regualar clothes or the pattern of a wall. See some of the comic books to refresh your memory. Perhaps it will be set up that the "Venom" costume is oozed out of Peter or something to that affect. A "reject" of the spider DNA he now carries.

Acording to this interview on Empire (http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/NewsStory.asp?news_id=16023) "Harry's not the only option, though. Eagle-eyed Spidey fans will have spotted several villainous Easter eggs lurking in the second instalment, notably the presence of Dylan Baker as one-armed scientist Dr. Curt Connors (who later becomes The Lizard) and of course J. Jonah Jameson's son, John Jameson last seen standing at the altar, jilted by Mary-Jane Watson and presumably vowing a bitter revenge on Peter Parker. In the comics, Jameson becomes Man-Wolf, but rumour has it that his astronaut background may be used as a way to introduce alien symbiote nutjob

Have Harry as the GG (in his father's costume) and Spidey battle in the begining of 3 with Harry being commited to a psych ward at the end of the fight. Then the story can focus on Venom (Brock or Jameson) and whatever his origin and connection to Peter is. Then Harry escapes from the hospital and can't be found. By the end of the movie Spidey and Venom are going at it, and as the_ram suggested, Spidey is about to lose; then Harry shows up in a new goblin costume, consisting of green (skin like rubber armor) and purple fabric, and occupies Venom long enough for Spidey to get his second wind and finish it. Whatever happens, I hope they replace the android like goblin costume with something else.

And, in actuality, the Lizard could fit into that story just as well as Venom could. Although, Venom has more intelligence than the Lizard; so he'd be more likely to put MJ in harms way which in turn could cause Harry to turn hero at the end. The Lizard should be more of a rampaging character as opposed being smart enough to take a hostage.

I would much rather see THE LIZARD in SP3. Take some of the fighting underground for a change. Parker and Conners were friends, and it was cool to have Parker try and figure out how to help Conners turn back. As for the love story... either have Harry cause problems, or introduce THE BLACK CAT into the mix to cause problems. Either way... I really don't think it's a good idea to have VENOM nor the GG as the main baddies in SP3. Although I do think they should introduce and inject the idea that VENOM will show up in SP4. That will keep the fans happy. You just can't do one movie on the whole VENOM storyline. And I think Raimi and Co. know that.

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/newsstory.asp?news_id=16023 Quote: "Harry's not the only option, though. Eagle-eyed Spidey fans will have spotted several villainous Easter eggs lurking in the second instalment, notably the presence of Dylan Baker as one-armed scientist Dr. Curt Connors (who later becomes The Lizard) and of course J. Jonah Jameson's son, John Jameson last seen standing at the altar, jilted by Mary-Jane Watson and presumably vowing a bitter revenge on Peter Parker. In the comics, Jameson becomes Man-Wolf, but rumour has it that his astronaut background may be used as a way to introduce alien symbiote nutjob

The second one I think will of course have Harry in the green costume. You'll have one scene where the goblin will attack something and Parker will go "Isn't he dead" and then have a true Goblin Spidey battle on the roof tops of New York. That was the one problem in the first film was there was no impressive battle scenes. One where Spidey webs on to the back of Goblin's glider and he flies around smacking Spidey smash into things. Then after that have Harry realize how evil he is. Also you have Coners turn into the Lizard. I think this makes sense only because this type of villian won't steal the show from the Harry v.s. Parker plot. Have Spidey face off with Lizard in the sewers and then Harry like battles the Goblin and almost kills Marry Jane. She can't take it and leaves so Peter is left with crazy Harry also you can introdue Brock as he hunts down the Lizard and Spider-man keeps stopping him and then when Brock thinks he has the upper hand he finds Coners as a human and is embarrassed, this starting his hate for Spider-man. Then the fourth can have Mysterio and Vulture or some crap. Or like make Spider-man mutate and have him battle Kraven while he needs Dr. Conors help to change him back. At the end of the fourth movie however they do itJamenson Jr. is on the moon and we see the the black stuff coming out of the rocks. 5th movie Jamenson Jr. crashes the rocket ship some bad guy Shocker or Tombstone tries to rob it but Spider-man comes to the rescue gets the black stuff on himself and becomes the black Spider-man and then you go through the numbers and at the end have Brock get the suit and become Venom, so the sixth movie can be an epic battle between Spider-man and Venom and then BAM best movie series ever. I kick ass

given all these flying rumours, here's my two cents worth, or whatever you yanks say. first off, consider the film structure for spidey 3. its got to have a bit more action than spidey 2 did in the first half. so, the idea of using venom won't fly. simply because it will take too long for the venom to be established, and the character is too big a villain to be finished off so quickly. i'm basing this on, what i think, is an inevitable big final showdown scene between hobglobin and spidey - involving a lot of aerial fighting as well as street action. i think that we're gonna see the lizard in the second, probably in the middle of the movie. so, given these points, i'm going for a villain at the beginning of the movie who needs no establishment, but just spidey to show-up and kick ass for five to ten minutes. is it me, or is this perfect for the rhino? anyway, all this talk about spidey 4. personally, i don't think its gonna happen, but if it does, then it makes sense for venom to be the main villain of that movie, particularly with sam raimi's reluctance to use the character, but still introduing background characters that could fill the role in the future. a spidey versus venom sequel will definately pull in the crowd, given the latter's great appeal. even to those who never read the comics, venom is a known character and probably, to said people, their favourite spidey villain. so, to recap. predicting spidey 3 should start with rhino, then the lizard, and finally hobgoblin. spidey 4 (if made) will feature venom. does anyone else think that this is reasonable?

And I suddenly realized that Venom being the villain in Spidey 3 wouldn't be the worst thing ever. I do not understand why anyone likes Kraven. First of all, he has, bar none, THE gayest costume in comics history. Siegfried and Roy only wish they were that gay. And then there's the source of his abilities; he drinks potions. Ooh, fascinating. The man has no origin, his powers are vague, and he looks like a drag queen. He just blows. I'll watch a Venom trilogy before I get behind a Kraven movie. And by the way, let's retire the bitching about the Goblin costume, shall we? The Green Goblin's costume in the comics is only slightly less goofy than Kraven's. He's a keebler elf on a jet glider. I don't need to see that on the movie screen.

I was reading somewhere that Sam Rami thought Venom was a boring character. I also an article in which he and the producer said that they thought Black Cat was an intersting character. From what I understand Black Cat was kind of like Spiderman's Apprentice/Partner. Then he discovered she had no real powers so he broke away from her. She wanted to prover herself, or revenge, or something like that, so she take up an offer from a mysterious benefactor - I think it's King Pin - for an experiement that gave her some type of power. - I don't know too much about her. If I find that article again, I'll link it. Regardless I do wish Venom was slated to be Spiderman 3, but it looks like it could be Black Cat. Her costume is black and white.

Peter's Teacher, Doctor Connors was in the second film and was obviously there for a reason. Doesn't he become Lizard? Poor Peter, every mentor he has wants to kill him!

Could be the Punisher too. They're always knocking heads. Punisher's original appearance was in a Spidey book. Pun was hired to assassinate him. Alright, I know there's no chance it's the Punisher but I'd like to see it.

you're coming across like some high school football player trying too hard to stay in the closet.<br><br> I've never thought of Kraven's costume as gay looking. Granted, some might find him boring, but he's one of the better villans.<br><br> And as far as Goblin goes, I hope people continue to push for a better costume next time. He's supposed to look like a scary little elf, not a robot with his mouth wide open and some guys face inside. BTW DaFoe way overplayed the part which surprised me, because he's a pretty good actor.

Wasn't there a storyline in the comics back in the day about Spider-man visiting Dr Connors because he feels sick or something, then Connors somehow messes around with SM's DNA, and SM starts to turn into an actual spider? Including extra arms growing out of his costume? Seems a bit on the lame side, but it would be a handy way to introduce the Lizard, and somehow give asn origin on a evil creature with most of SMs powers, abilities and knowledge

If they did Venom, I'd like to see Carnage in there 2. Carnage was a hell of alot eviler then Venom. If I know the Venom story right, Isn't it a space being/suit that landed on earth. And Peter Parker is the first to wear the suit. Im not sure if im right.

A couple of summer's ago when everyone was scared about seeing Hulk balls? Remember that? God it seems so long ago... (sigh)

So what your saying is Venom doesn't make no sense in a fictional movie. But a man made of Sand would make a better villian and sense in a movie? Venom is best character in Spiderman universe. But for all you Venom haters you get your wish. After Spiderman 3 there is no more venom. They screwed up the movie and venom character. If you read the movie book, I did and sorry to say they totally made venom a weakling. He can't fight spiderman by himself he needs sandman. Plus unlike comic there is no more venom after spiderman 3. They mess up the character.