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Holy Geek Excrement! TRANSFORMERS & WATCHMEN! Glory Be!

Hey folks, Harry here... Well - seems that the official trades have begun to catch up officially with AICN. Back in April, Moriarty announced that Darren Aronofsky had officially committed to making the WATCHMEN movie... However, Today was the official announcement. Then last Sunday, I informed you that Dreamworks and specifically Steven Spielberg had taken a very aggressive move into acquiring the rights to make a TRANSFORMERS live action film. Well the trades are confirming that as well right now. Seems that not only is Dreamworks on board, but Paramount is co-producing and taking the International Distribution. And for Spielberg's Rhode Island trip, he'll be the Executive Producer on the film, which already has Tom DeSanto and Don Murphy aboard. That being said, there was no mention of Zemeckis' involvement, which my sources at CAA swear up and down is the case, but that deal may still be in the sway. We'll see. BUT both projects are officially moving down the road, just as we said... a long long time ago...

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  • July 23, 2004, 11:33 a.m. CST

    The question no one is asking

    by fro_ohgod

    All this talk about big names getting behind this project is great. However, if its going to be based on any of the garbage that has come out of Hasbro from the 90s forward then please scrap this project. We do not need some happy go lucky feel good movie. We need a movie that AT LEAST had as much balls as the cartoon movie where robots were shot and they actually DIED. Tranmsformers Armade/Minicons/anything after the original series = crap. Please Push them to make it based on the classic series and please do not involve children or dogs or happy rainbows...

  • July 23, 2004, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Wow, only half a day behind the curve

    by The Colonel

    Way to get off your asses, guys. Doesn't getting the scoop from talkbackers and other news sites kind of dilute your own effectiveness? Maybe you should scrap the insider info that you barely provide anymore and instead throw up some more anatomically-analagous reviews of bad movies by your good buddies. Either that or more ass-carrying baby jokes. Those are classic.

  • July 23, 2004, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Coincidently, i had read watchmen for the first time the other d

    by Floyd Gondolli

    I personally feel it would work better as a twelve part televisual series (obviously with large budget) rather than a film. However, hopefully it'll be great although i can't be sure of that because i have not seen any of aronofsky's work.

  • July 23, 2004, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Cool...Now how about some SK's The Dark Tower news?

    by Vespalad

    Seriously! What's up with that Dark Tower cartoon we heard about long ago? And what's the story with the Talisman?

  • July 23, 2004, 11:37 a.m. CST

    The real question is...

    by BBlaze

    When the hell are we going to get some G.I. Joe news! Seriously, Spielberg will find some way to ruin this by incorporating a Haley Joel Osment cameo...what a waste.

  • July 23, 2004, 11:38 a.m. CST

    transformers soundtrack

    by JackDonkey

    better be as good this time as it was the last time. Meaning no lame shit like Shine Down or Cold or Sevendust or Beyonce or Slipknot

  • July 23, 2004, 11:38 a.m. CST

    fro_ohgod - the reason no-one is asking....

    by Lujho

    is that it was answered a LONG time ago. Tom DeSanto is only interested in doing Generation 1 movies. No Beast Wars, Armada or anything else.

  • July 23, 2004, 11:40 a.m. CST

    dare to be stupid

    by lush

    This had better not be some fucked up "Beast Wars" shit, I want goddam Optimus Prime tearing shit up. And I want some fucking decent music. And a two hour + running time. AND NO GODDAM CUTE AND PRECOCIOUS KIDS. I know they exist in the cartoon, but fuck. I can only hope Zemeckis still has some sense, I'd really like to see DePalma do this, it would seem like a fit somehow.

  • July 23, 2004, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Not Fucking Spielberg

    by 5secondfuse

    I wish New Line was doing this film instead of fucking Dreamworks. There gonna fuck with my childhood in the worst way on this if they don't just stick to the Generation 1 characters. No one gives too fucks about any characters created after that period. Can they really make it live action all the way, with all the transformations going on you would think it had to be all cgi which would be totally shit. Maybe now that Dreamworks has Tranformers New Line will option that Thundercats Trilogy we all keep hearing about. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • July 23, 2004, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Transformers is as popular now as it was 20 years ago

    by FakeTrout

    In fact, its MORE popular. The entire original series sell like crazy on DVD, the new toys are the #1 toy line of last year, the comics (including several Generation 1 series) are still top sellers after being out for 2 years... Some of you punks who think Transformers lived and died with G1 have more stuff than ever to get a hold of since theres that 20th Anniversary Opitmus Prime figure and all the new Alternators toys. Meanwhile, the rest of us who recognize a good toy when we see it can appreciate the fact that Transformers: Energon is probably the best incarnation of the franchise... EVER. The 2006 movie won't NEED any nostalgia following, its going to have plenty of current fans to line up! As for guys being too embarrased to bring their girlfriends, I'm taking my girlfriend to a Transformers convention next weekend (I still can't figure out why she's going!) so thats assuming too much about the fans and their relations. we're not just big fat toy geeks anymore. we're real people.

  • July 23, 2004, 11:49 a.m. CST

    R.C.'s opinion, there's only one man on Earth with the appeal, p

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    Nuff said!

  • July 23, 2004, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Peter Cullen on IMDB

    by pilong

    On IMDB it looks like Peter Cullen, the original voice of Optimus, is on board. Thank god for that. And the dude who did Megatron's voice is also on board. Sounds like the movie will be based on the original transformers, not the lame crap that came later.

  • July 23, 2004, 11:52 a.m. CST


    by FakeTrout

    Some of you dickholes don't keep up with the news, but its been stated a THOUSAND TIMES that its based on the G1 comics (not the g1 cartoon, so FUCK YOU!)... it won't be Beast Wars because Beast Wars came and went and it was better than any of you close-minded airheads realized while you were crying "Trukk not Munky!"

  • July 23, 2004, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Peter Cullen is not on board. No one has been cast.

    by FakeTrout

    IMDB takes submissions from 3 year olds and the mentally disabled. There was a listing for a Beast Machines movie for 2 years.

  • July 23, 2004, 11:55 a.m. CST

    They better not FUCK up Watchmen

    by Eye_H8_U

    This story deserves the full treatment ala LOTR! They better not give us some watered-down, abbriged version. This is the best comic-book story EVER! Don't fuck it up!

  • July 23, 2004, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Can't wait

    by Terry_1978

    I'm glad that Spielberg is on hand to executive produce, but not direct, since he claims he's not into the whole fantasy sci-fi genre anymore, though what was Minority Report?! It won't be based on Armada or Energon, G1 all the way is all I wanted to hear. There's no way they couldn't get Peter Cullen and Frank Welker back, and they just need some B list actors to be the humans caught in the middle.

  • July 23, 2004, noon CST

    Last I checked, this was good news.

    by Zephyr1988

    Really, with Arfonsky on Watchmen, I can only imagine what type of creature he'll make out of Rorscrach. Though let's hope at least one of his comic-book projects can go through. And the news of Transformers...just awesome. With Dreamworks and Speilberg producing, at least we know this film isn't joking in the scope of things. And though I was raised by Beast Wars, I have an underlying respect and honor for the G1 Transformers...and they hopefully will look amazing.

  • July 23, 2004, 12:01 p.m. CST

    She's going because you lick her dingding...

    by Boris the Blade

    That is all.

  • July 23, 2004, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Hi, my name is the Colonel and I'm a judgemental asshole

    by War_Tourist I was your daddy.

  • July 23, 2004, 12:05 p.m. CST

    R.C.'s second opinion is an epiphony for other casting possibili

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    Wow! I must be a brilliant marketer because I just conceived of a casting opportunity that will also cause a wave of new, free, publicity from the press and entertainment press. The idea is simplisity itself: Cast all the members of Saving Private Ryan in the roles of the G1 autobots. ex. Barry Pepper as Prowl, Tom Seizmore as Ironhide, Matt Damon as Bumblebee, Vin Diesel as Grimlock, Giavonni Ribisi as Ratchet, and Ed Burns as Cliffjumper. For Megatron, I'd cast Frank Langela. He's perfect. The real star villian though should be Starscream, and who better to capture the kineiving, "Iago-like" character than Tim Roth.

  • July 23, 2004, 12:07 p.m. CST


    by graycove

    Requiem for a Dream was considered so controversial it didn't allow anyone to have a constructive discussion about how horrible it was. Aronofsky/Watchmen sounds horrible.

  • July 23, 2004, 12:10 p.m. CST

    There is only one Transformers!

    by graycove

    WTF is Beast Wars!?

  • July 23, 2004, 12:16 p.m. CST

    This Transformers stuff is kinda funny.

    by rev_skarekroe

    Gen Xers are so weird about nostalgia. You don't see my Dad whining about getting a grim and gritty version of Captain Video or the Lone Ranger made. But here's all these people who want a grown-up take on their favorite toys. Don't get me wrong - I've got Starscream and Bruticus on top of one of my stereo speakers and Prowl and, uh, some train guy on top of the other, so I'm a fan. I just think maybe we ought to leave some of this stuff to the kids. sk

  • July 23, 2004, 12:23 p.m. CST

    This is going to be the same team which brought us Back to the F

    by TheGinger Twit

    Transformers may just be more than meets the eye!

  • July 23, 2004, 12:24 p.m. CST

    I'm going to get flamed to hell for even suggesting it...

    by Fat Chooch

    ... but I don't care. The only director working today that I'd want to see on Watchmen is David Twohy. Say what you will about The Chronicles Of Riddick, but it had a stunning visual look and tone that'd (IMHO) mesh perfectly with the look and tone of the comic.

  • July 23, 2004, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Starscream's voice wont be in it for sure

    by youbetitis

    He died in 94. Too bad--he would be hard to replace. No Wheeljack either. Spielberg might be nostalgic enough to ensure the original voice people are involved--like he did on Roger Rabbit ensuring the characters appeared as they did in the 40s. But Bugs and the gang are in the stratosphere in recognition by comparison--and Spielberg was in his 40s when the show aired so he may hardly know it. And since they are machines--their voices will probably be amplified quite a bit for the live actions. I just doubt they would turn over speeches to Welker or Cullen--they would find A list actors. I am sure Soundwave will appear unchanged though. We'll see. ps I would never attend a Transformers convention--but when I saw Transformers the movie in 86--the cinema was full of kids--but there were two 40 year old guys sitting nearby with a bag of popcorn watching it as well.

  • July 23, 2004, 12:38 p.m. CST

    Autobots, roll out!

    by Master_S*H*A*K*E

    I am exploding with geek jizz at the prospect of a Transformers G1 movie! I hope they do it right. I haven't been too disappointed by Dreamworks. On the other hand, WB can't make a comics or toon movie to save their fucking miserable lives, just look at Catwoman, or their tentative plans for Green Lantern. My expectations for Watchmen will be low. I really wish they would make it into an HBO miniseries, along with Preacher, and do it some justice...but that's probably too much to ask for. Anyway, I'm just happy that i'll be able to see Grimlock, Optimus, and the gang lock fists and trade laser blasts with Megatron and Starscream, and the rest of those bastards! Awesome!

  • July 23, 2004, 12:39 p.m. CST

    The question is.... how can they make this into a compelling fil

    by TheGinger Twit

    Not some trashy 'look at this shit'. It'd be great if they could get the look of Terminator 2. And when that truck transforms I was to see that truck transform properly. How it would look! Not how it'll look once it's had flashy Computer animation done, but when it looks photographically like a god damned truck would transform. And that goes for all the rest too! Can't wait to see that winging bitch StarScrean. Nor Soundwave mystically going from a giant robot into a tiny every day tape player. Hehe. Seriously, they either have to make him weeny or just drop the character!

  • July 23, 2004, 12:44 p.m. CST


    by rev_skarekroe

    Those 40 year old guys weren't watching the movie... They were watching you and your prepubescent buddies! sk

  • July 23, 2004, 12:47 p.m. CST

    ''you got the Touch''

    by Kaleb.09

    I crinched when I heard that song, hope hotrod (rodomos prime) will be in it

  • July 23, 2004, 12:59 p.m. CST

    once this movie is made, i can die happy

    by Rcamacho2278

    Optimus prime should be played by none other than james Earl Jones.

  • July 23, 2004, 12:59 p.m. CST

    You'll have to do some character re-design ...

    by squidman

    Unfortuantely, this is true. Here is why. Megatron, although one of the most recognizable symbols of destruction and menace, doesn't make any goddamned sense! He turns into .... a ... gun?!?!? Is it a gun big enough for people to use? Is it a gun big enough for his fellow Decepticons to use? I've seen both interpretations. Keep the basics of the Megatron character - the Vader-like helmet, the huge bazooka, and have him turn into a tank. It's that simple. As for Soundwave .. again, a fan-favorite, who makes no fucking sense!!! Maybe he can transform into a satelite dish or something? I know that's a STUPID idea, but I'm grasping at straws here. It would be a shame to lose his character, but I don't have another solution. Any thoughts?

  • July 23, 2004, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Megatron was a BAD ASS, worse than Vadar

    by Rcamacho2278

    This guy was EVIL man, he didnt get worse when he became galvatron, they just allowed him to do what he was always doing on the big screen. Him killing starscream was just something that he shoulda done a long time ago for his constant failure. Megatron turned into a gun that Soundwave could use. or another decepticon. The gun was more powerful than regular guns, it was like a cannon. Thus megatron being the total weapon of destruction. I rather him turn to a gun than a silly tank, considering others can turn into tanks, but megatron was the only one who was transformed into a weapon of mass destruction, that was his purpose, a killing machine, fast and effective. They screwed up when they had megatron transform into a gun a human could use, I dont know what the writers were thinking but once they turned him into galvatron they fixed that, now he was the cannon.

  • July 23, 2004, 1:07 p.m. CST


    by Little Lebowski

    Actually, after seeing Eternal Sunshine (finally), I think Michel Gondry would have been the perfect director for Watchmen (well, he or Chris Nolan), but I suppose Aranofsky will give it an interesting signature... as long as that tool Jared Leto isn't in it.

  • July 23, 2004, 1:10 p.m. CST

    As you can guess by my nickname...

    by Dead Megatron

    I'm a huge Transformers' fan. I even have a decepticon logo tattoo (can't get much nerdier). If you ask me, Megatron MUST turn into a gun. more specifically, a Magnun .45, the same way Optimus MUST turn into a 18-wheeler. For God's sake, don't try to push me this Transformers: Armada bullshit of Megatron as a tank. As for the size of the gun, you all can notice that it would have the perfect size to fit in... Devastator's hand!!! That would be perfect for a final showdown between the autobots and the deceps. Cool, isn't it?

  • July 23, 2004, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Ok here goes my TF comments!

    by AxeBox

    If Zemeckis is involved he'll probably push for the same technology he's working on with the CGI only Polar Express, in that he'll use real actors to play the parts of the transformers. What a trip watching George Clooney play Optimus! Also, if its G1, the story would be like this: Transformers duking it out on Cybertron, big bad battle and are forced to flee, big battle in space on spaceships, crash on earth into a volcano, a million years later their ship's computer wakes up and repairs them melding them with the date's latest vehicles and stuff, but after that they can go anywhere. Will they make Megatron or Unicron the big baddie? Will they think of sequels? Will they bring on Vince Di'Cola to do the soundtrack (or at least consult - please say YES)? Will they make a G rated movie, a PG/PG13 rated movie, or a Hard-R like the animated movie from '86? WEEEEE!

  • And I bet he does a good job too. Creepy actor, that guy.

  • July 23, 2004, 1:25 p.m. CST

    keep it dark and gritty

    by ScreamingPenis

    the CGI in Minority Report looked so sharp because they decided to go with the granier washed-out look. i'm not suggesting the exact same thing for Transformers, but bright light should be used sparingly to keep this from looking like Shrek or Roger Rabbit.

  • July 23, 2004, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Okay, Dead Megatron ...

    by squidman

    I can appreciate that as a fan, you want to keep Megatron a gun. I think this worked just fine for the comics, toons, etc. But, without somebody around to use him in gun-mode and pull his trigger, isn't he pretty much useless? It seemed that in gun-mode, he relied heavily on his colleagues, who, by the way, were constantly trying to usurp his authority. It just didn't fit to me. "Bow down before me, puny flesh-creatures - now hold on a second - I'm going to transform into a gun. Okay, there. Now, will one of you guys pick me up? Hey, Thundercracker - get over here and use me to destroy these flesh creatures. Anybody? Hey. HEY!!!" I would much rather see a completely self-sufficient Megatron. An all-terrain, super-destructive tank. After all, isn't a tank just a big gun on wheels? You can still keep your whole "Megatron as an instrument of mass-destruction" theory. I LOVE Megatron, don't get me wrong, buddy. I just don't think we see eye-to-eye on this one.

  • July 23, 2004, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Soundwave turns into an iPod, Megatron turns into a Walkie-Talki

    by Funmazer

    Obviously. Anyway, this is the same team that brought us Back to the Future and Who Framed Roger Rabbit? It should rock. Too bad many of the voices are dead (but not Spock!)

  • July 23, 2004, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Now, if they can just fuck up some more classic 80's cartoons li

    by screenplaywriter

    Come on people! Do we really need a "TRANSFORMERS" movie? The show is cool, but the idea as a feature film is crap. Talking robots that can change into cars and fight evil. Steven if you're smart like the good Jew you are I suggest banking on "INDIANA JONES 4" and not "TRANSFORMERS." You'll just dig yourself a rut that you'll never be able to get out of it. As for "WATCHMEN" yes thank you for making a good call there and Darren will be perfect for the job. Now, if they get a really talented cast unlike the "FANTASTIC FOUR" cast I'll be happy and pleased.

  • July 23, 2004, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Big casting news

    by chasfkane

    From Cinescape: "Dreamworks sources confirmed Friday that Mike Myers will be lending more than his voice to his performance as Optimus Prime in the upcoming Transformers movie. Reportedly a new hybrid CGI/prosthetic makeup technique being developed by Oscar-winning effects wiz Stan Winston will allow Myers' facial expressions to come through. 'This is going to be better than Cat in the Hat, baby,' said one insider."

  • July 23, 2004, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Oh, Transformers!!!

    by viola123

    That's so awesome. A live-action movie will probably not be good, but whatever. It's Transformers!!

  • July 23, 2004, 1:39 p.m. CST


    by bigblackock

    The only way whis will be cool is if they use the original cartoon movie sountrack that had all the shitty 80's music on it. Bring on the Dare to be Stupid by Weird Al. This movie's going to be so fucking bad if it ever gets made.

  • July 23, 2004, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Megatron and Soundwave

    by jsm1978

    Beast Wars was pretty good, although the fact that they could only stay as robots for a short time was kinda lame. Plus, what's the point of turning into animals on a planet inhabited only by animals? Not like you're going to fool the real thing or your opponents...

  • July 23, 2004, 1:55 p.m. CST


    by jsm1978

    changed what I was going to say but not the subject line... good job

  • July 23, 2004, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Aronofsky's Watchmen

    by wasp

    It could be terrible. It could be absolutely unbelievable. Aronofsky has often mentioned in interviews (some dating back to 2000) that he would love to do Watchmen, and now here he is. Say what you will about him, but the kid has style, if nothing else.

  • July 23, 2004, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Soundwave was badass!

    by MJAYACE

    He was my favorite toy growing up. I used to love the little cassetes that turned into little robot, a vulture (or something) and one other one I can't remember. They have to get the guy w/ the John Wayne voice to do Optimus or it simply won't work. Can you imagine the effects they could use nowadays to to the big ass City transformer (I can't remember his name)? Or the construction guys (can't remember their names either)? Out here.

  • July 23, 2004, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Some advice harry won't give a shit about

    by Biddlerama

    " BUT both projects are officially moving down the road, just as we said... a long long time ago..." You know, I can understand dropping a link and saying "as reposted here" and then just moving on. But man, one of the things that has always annoyed me about you Harry is the fact that you're so desperate to make it clear that you're the leader on inside information within the movie industry. Deal with it man, you're a face in the crowd now in terms of internet movie news. Yeah once in a while some "spy" comes through for you, then you milk it and jab your finger in our faces burbling "told ya told ya". I mostly come here now to read Hercules, because his t.v stuff is pretty good. But if I want well written reviews and some news on upcoming films I'll go to Dark Horizons or CHUD. But I

  • July 23, 2004, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Can they be done justice?

    by tile_mcgillus

    As a HUGE fan of Watchmen, i am not sure that it can be done justice. ESPECIALLY in a single movie setting. It would have to be 3-4 hours. Also Aronofsky is a great director but is he the right person for the job? I own Pi and Requiem but his style is so personal and enclosed while Watchmen is an epic. Hopefully he treats this material with the utmost respect and delivers. As for Transformers......there already was a great movie of the transformers....a cartoon but still a great movie. I would love to see this done RIGHT!

  • July 23, 2004, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Question from someone who watched the Transformers toon as a kid

    by oceansized

    What the origin story? I think I got that they came to Earth from another planet(Cybertron?)but how did they actually come about? We're they created by some orgainc beings they then took over, a la The Matrix? Or do they somehow reproduce on their own, having little baby transformers? Any clarification would be appreciated.

  • July 23, 2004, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Things to consider

    by Childe Roland

    i enjoyed "PI" tremendously, but I think anyone who has read "Watchmen" knows it's going to take a different directorial approach to make it work. "Pi" took ordinary, everyday characters, settings and occurences and made them seem extraordinary through cinematic context (much of the credit due to camera work and editing, as well as the actors). "Watchmen" will require the director to take fantastical elements and make them seem commonplace for the true effect of the story to come across. I'm not sure if the mind behind "Requiem" is the right one for that task. As for Transformers, I haven't paid much attention to them in over fifteen years, but I think a feature film starring all of the old faves from the cartoon could be a lot of fun given today's technology. I do know from snooping a bit that Hasbro has had some trouble recapturing the exact likenesses of their G1 characters in the Alternators toy line because of licensing issues (Volkswagen, for instance, wouldn't lend its likeness to the Bumblebee character because of concerns over endorsing a warlike toy line), so it's possible that you won't get all your old favorites in exactly the form you remember. Speilberg's involvement makes me nervous. His fantasy stuff has been increasingly hit-or-miss since "E.T." and his redux of that classic to make it more "kid friendly" was a huge disappointment. Don't even get me started on the life-sucking waste of time and an excellent premise that was "A.I." Let him consult on the overal look of the film and let someone without a Peter Pan complex handle story decisions.

  • July 23, 2004, 2:47 p.m. CST


    by Spamgelus

    David Caruso should play Rorschach. He's got that red hair, that low monotone, and he's looking a little thin and gnarled as he approaches 50. Just watch CSI: Miami, and you'll hear that Rorschach "hurm" coming out of him at least 5 times an episode. Check out the jail scene in the comic where the inmates come after him in his cell. Total neutral-faced Caruso.

  • July 23, 2004, 2:53 p.m. CST

    RE: oceansized

    by FakeTrout

    Transformers Origins differ depending on the continuity used. The original TV series revealed the Transformers to be the creation of a race called the Quintessons (the 5 faced aliens in the Movie) who created the Transformers to be their workers and warriors. The TFs rebelled and found their own planet, Cybertron. a couple zillion years pass, and they all forget about it until one ridiculous time travel episode in season 3. The Comic origins, and those continued in Beast Wars and slightly modified in the current comics from Dreamwave, were that the Transformers were created in the image of the god Primus as the universe's last line of defense against Unicron, the evil god also from the Transformer movie. at the dawn of time Primus trapped Unicron in an asteroid and also trapped himself in one. Unicron formed a planet around himself and was able to change into a massive robot and destoryed or consumed everything in his path. Primus formed the core of Cybertron and then gave life to Transformers. Cybertron could technically transform into Primus, and theres even illustrations from the current TF artist Don Figueroa floating around the web of a fully Transformed Primus, but its not something they ever plan to do. Primus is dormant, because as soon as he wakes up and makes himself known, Unicron would trace right back to Cybertron... This is a LOT of complex back story that I can more or less garauntee WILL NOT be in any movie. Not unless they end up doing 3 or more and have time to flesh it out.

  • July 23, 2004, 2:53 p.m. CST

    How fucking cool were the dinobots

    by TheGinger Twit

  • July 23, 2004, 2:59 p.m. CST

    G1 is the only way...

    by NightArrows

    This has to be done based on the 80's cartoon series, and that is that. None of this new generation horseshit, none of the new pissy ass cheap shit rice rocket plastic car shit. 80's and that's final. No wait, I take it back, I would like to see a rice rocket make it in as a cameo, a civic, supra, acura, whatever can be cruising down the highway, giant fucking metal spoiler on the back so the front wheel drive 4 cylinder shit box doesn't get airborn when it's doing the quarter mile in whatever Vin Diesel says it can do, plastic scoops and side panels plastered all over it, giant stickers stating the cars make all over the place, a stupid fucking loud ass muffler to make it seem like he is going fast even though he is a queen and some garbage fucking rap or whathaveyou music blaring with a little wife beater wearing dick taking poofter behind the wheel on a lowered seat so he looks well under his 5'2" stature. Pan left and Optimus is screaming down the highway in pursuit of whomever, notices the ricebox and transforms and at the same time grabs the rice box and starts to boot stomp the fuck out of it and simultaneously takes his gun and shoves it up the gino poofter's ass and blows has goddamn grape sized nads all over the highway, then takes that useless fucking gay ass spoiler and folds it into an nice bow and covers the gaping nad hole. Man that would be a satisfying action scene, the only thing better would be to see ALL the Autobots converge on a donut shop parking lot with the rest of the gino poofter rice rocket Mo's who are comparing each other's shitty same as the next one 4 cylinder hamster engine with NOS pieces of loud muffler shit, and to see the Autobots transform and BOOT STOMP THE spoilers right up their asses!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  • July 23, 2004, 2:59 p.m. CST


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  • July 23, 2004, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Just wondering, guys...

    by Ribbons

    ...when AICN scooped Aronofsky's involvement with 'Watchmen,' did you congratulate them? When they scooped DreamWorks' involvement with 'Transformers,' how about then? No? So why do you feel it incumbent upon yourselves to open your mouths in protest everytime they're late on news, especially confirmed news that they themselves scooped a while back? Oh, I see, you only like confirmed news. Well, they were the first website to "confirm" Singer's attachment to 'Superman.' How about then? What are you accomplishing by bitching that's so important? Here's some advice: if you don't have anything to say, you don't actually have to say anything at all. So don't.

  • July 23, 2004, 3:38 p.m. CST

    chasfkane is full of doodoo

    by Babba-Booey

    I just read the post that 'chasfkane' left about Mike Myers/Optimus Prime that was supposed to be from Cinescape. What a crock of shit, Chaz. When did you pull that nugget from your poop chute? There's no record of that on Cinescape. Fuck3r.

  • July 23, 2004, 3:39 p.m. CST


    by Little Lebowski

    Alas, Ribbons, assholes will be assholes. And on the internet, assholes are completely anonymous, so they may be as cowardly as possible with no repercussions. Just take comfort in the fact that we sleep better at night.

  • July 23, 2004, 3:39 p.m. CST

    They will screw Transformers up...

    by andrew coleman

    Especially if Spielberg is envolved. Why? You know they will try and place humans in it and have a human controling them or something. Or they will put kids in it or have the kids controling them. That would suck and I know they will do it, look at Thunderbirds

  • July 23, 2004, 3:46 p.m. CST

    yeah yeah yeah

    by Sinder

    Transformers and watchmen are all good and everything but when are we going to see a Dino-Riders movie

  • July 23, 2004, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Megatron makes a great bank robbery weapon

    by CKnightShift

    The talk about Megatron's size when he transforms reminds me of an issue of the G1 comic that Marvel did (this was prolly late '85 or so), a few issues after Ratchet ambushed Megatron with the newly-reactivated Dinobots 'cuz he knew Megster was gonna break their pact (long story, involving Optimus's disembodied head). Megatron fell off a cliff and transformed 'cuz in his shrunken size there would be a lot less mass to damage himself internally from the fall. A few issues later gun-mode Megatron is found by this loser on the run from loan-shark hired goons and he starts using Megatron as his personal slave 'cuz Megster's independence circuitry was damaged. This guy aims Megatron at about 20 army tanks and blows them all away with one shot after robbing a bank. Anyhoo, be neat to see the whole "mass displacement" thing the Transformers are supposed to have, like where Prime's trailer goes to when he's a robot.

  • July 23, 2004, 4 p.m. CST

    Prime's trailer

    by Childe Roland

    I always assumed he sucked it into his robot butt like I do mine. "Roll out!"

  • July 23, 2004, 4:05 p.m. CST


    by Childe Roland

    Yeah, Ginger Twit, those were cool. But also a little sad. I mean, they got assigned robot forms early because they were Transformer premies or something. Now they're kind of like the big retarded kids on the Transformer playground who get all revved up about stuff and don't really know why. "Isn't that a little politically incorrect?" "I'll be damned if I'll let anybody tell me who I can work with." Just don't touch Grimlock's ears.

  • July 23, 2004, 4:09 p.m. CST

    I hope they use Megatron (not Galvetron) and have him voiced by

    by Big Bad Clone

  • July 23, 2004, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Finally a movie role for Harry! Harry = UNICRON!

    by Fugazi32

    Well, he's big enough to be! :D

  • July 23, 2004, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Ravage, Transform!

    by Nice Marmot

  • July 23, 2004, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Rumble, Transform.

    by Nice Marmot

  • July 23, 2004, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Laser-beak, Transform.

    by Nice Marmot

  • July 23, 2004, 4:16 p.m. CST


    by Spamgelus

    I dunno... the Dinobots were cool toys (which was their only purpose, by the way... more cash for the toy gods), but thematically they were a disaster. Robots In Disguise... as giant dinosaur-shaped robots!

  • July 23, 2004, 4:20 p.m. CST


    by Grabthars_Hammer


  • July 23, 2004, 4:24 p.m. CST

    to squidman

    by Dead Megatron

    Ok, Squidman, you miss my point. If you remember the cartoons, Megatron, unlike most cybertronians, very rarely transformed. he was so cool, so sure of his power (and rightly so, I might add), that he did not bother to transform. Taking that to the movie, there could be a suspense on Meg's gun mode, i.e., he stays on robot mode throughout the movie, and turn to gun mode ONLY ONCE, for the final showdown. to better explain my vision, let me give a short version of what I thing would be the perfect script for this movie: it begins on Cyberton, with the million-year war between Autobots and Decepticons has reached a standstill: the autos control the Matrix, the program that creates new transformer's self-aware consciousnesses, and the deceps control the factories that built new transform bodies, so neither side can make new warriors (whoever controls both at any moment could easily mass-product new autobots or decepticons and win the war). Since they are very hard to kill (easely rebuilt from scratch), they go on fighting without end, until Cybertron's limited energy resources are nearly depleted and they all face extinction (for that to work, Cybertron must not orbit a star like Earth does, or the solar power would solve that problem). In a desperated movie, Optimus and a handfull of his best fighters (plus Bumblebee) leave tha planet aboard the Ark to seek alternative power sources. Megatron and his elite give chace, they fight, both ships crash on Earth; A million years latter, they awake, mimic modern earth vehicles, and started fighting all over again. The deceps re-stabilsh communication via space bridge withg Cybertron, only to find out that their home is now a dead planet, utterly devoid of energy to fuel the transformers. All remaining deceps are in stasis, except for Shockwave, and all autobots are hidden away, maybe dead, maybe in stasis. meanwhile, on Earth, the deceps have devised a plan to send energy to Cybertron ans finally conquer the planet without resistance, and only Optimus and his guys can stop them. They battle, some of them die (on both sides), and they realize this is to be the final battle in the war, so things escalate to a degrre never reached before, where all rules of engagement are forgotten (with deceps destroying autos who are already disabled, for instance, which they never did before). When almost all deceps are defeated, and victory seem at the hands of the autos, Megs summons Devastator, who has just been re-activated by Shockwave and sent to Earth (enter meg's gun mode scene at this point). There's a final showdown, and while Optimus and Megs have a final duel, the remaining autos fight Devastator in the streets of Portland. You can even add a paralel subplot of Bumblebee and Spark (the inevitable teen human) to Cybertron, where they have to elude Shockwave and all deceps he can wake from stasis, while they seek the surviving autobots, and the inevitable attempt by Starsream and his flyboys to take over command of the deceps during the chaos. So, does that work for you? Man, they should let me write this script, I am overloading with ideas

  • July 23, 2004, 4:25 p.m. CST

    War_Tourist: Are you serious?

    by The Colonel

    Are you seriously using the talkbacks to scream about someone being JUDGMENTAL? Holy shit, the irony is so thick not even Harry could eat it.

  • very simple. Just follow the original story. Dont put any stupid little brats.

  • July 23, 2004, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Generation 1

    by Ouji-vegito

    From all the stuff I've seen and read up until now says it will be based on the Generation 1 universe.(The original Series) Early rumors from those tied to the project want to use as many of the original charaters as possible.

  • July 23, 2004, 6:23 p.m. CST

    these great movies

    by Voltron Lions

    The countdown to Oscar begins now! Golden boys all around!

  • July 23, 2004, 6:34 p.m. CST

    If The Watchmen is done as just one movie...

    by Diskatopia

    then it will not be The Watchmen. It must be a trilogy, not some clueless I-Robotized crap like the olde Hamm script or worse, Forrest Gump. Note to suits: it's the story, stupid. Repeat until it sinks in.

  • July 23, 2004, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Note to Diskatopia

    by Ribbons

    The script was a labor of love, not an iRobotized cash-in, as you say. Not only that, but it apparently works very well: ******* God, I wish the vestiges of that Gilliam quote about an HBO miniseries would just disappear already.

  • July 23, 2004, 9:04 p.m. CST

    my thoughts on this recent development (as if anyone really care

    by LeFlambeur

    Ok, they need to make Watchmen as a trilogy, and as fondly as I remember Transformers, it won't work as a movie because the show doesn't make any frickin' sense. Enough of this Transformers nostalgia crap. And what is Steven Speilberg doing? Does he want to direct Transformers? If he does than he may be elligable to be declared legally retarded.

  • July 23, 2004, 10:46 p.m. CST delicious

    by Heywood Jablowme

    Forgot about that post. Hey it was back in friggin' April. Maybe it IS true what they say about alcohol and brain cells.

  • July 23, 2004, 11:45 p.m. CST

    I'm smack in the middle of reading watchman now.

    by Fantomex

    Really one of the most well written (although at times not) comics I've read. This could make for a thoughtful movie.

  • July 23, 2004, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Zemeckis is NOT Attached to Direct!!!

    by christonomist

    On the official TF Movie board, Don Murphy himself has posted a message acknowledging Spielberg's involvement and the team's dedication to the original G1 mythology, but has denied any Zemeckis involvement. Sorry to burst your bubble, Harry.

  • July 24, 2004, 2:09 a.m. CST

    Thnx for link ebonic_plague!!!

    by Fantomex

    I'll comb through it as soon as I'm done. Only 2 issues left.

  • July 24, 2004, 2:41 a.m. CST

    Darth Megatron.... Wanna hear some of my ideas?

    by TheGinger Twit

    The autobots should be the ones who take the initiative to get all the power cubes they need. All while unaware of the decepticons. Optimus prime as the huge road train is going to transport all equipment cross country with an escort of all the other autobots. The decepticons come on in and hey bang we have a huge chase. then in the middle of a populated area with american military and all that shit we have the robots transform and inevitable shit storm battle ensues. Yeahaar.

  • July 24, 2004, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Transformers Live Action Movie Storylines....

    by ronniepooch


  • July 24, 2004, 8:18 a.m. CST

    shrinking transformers

    by Ikaruga

    I agree with your post about not having shrinking transformers, but on the other hand..... Soundwave and Blaster (the radio guys) were some of the coolest Transformers of G1, and they *have* to shrink to become boomboxes. I can see Blaster not being in the movie, but Soundwave? Soundwave was the #3 Decepticon, next to Starscream. How will he be replaced? I guess we'll have to forsake him too, perhaps make him into a really cool car with a great sound system. I wonder if Tom Hanks got Spielberg to make this movie. When Castaway came out, Hanks went on the Jay Leno show and sang the Transformers G1 theme song. He even got the whole audience to sing along. He joked (paraphrasing) "I don't get Transformers. They're robots who can transform into vehicles. I would think that being a robot would be cool enough. I'd be happy with that as it is." I think Hanks has a son who is a big TF fan or something, and maybe he encouraged Spielberg to think about making a film. Combine this with the popularity of street racing media and the SUV phenomenon, and you can see how a marketing exec might see big profits behind a movie full of slick looking vehicles. Heck, the Mazda RX-8 people even named their car "Transformer", releasing a full TF-themed website and Hasbro toy. And I hope the movie makes a Knight Rider joke somehow ;) another "robot car" show from the 80s!

  • July 24, 2004, 9:07 a.m. CST


    by Ali786

    now I'm happy about a Watchmen movie...Batman Begins, Sin City, Watchmen and Bryan Singer on Superman? nobody jinks it

  • July 24, 2004, 3:53 p.m. CST

    I love Aronofsky, but...

    by MadMadHatter

    Can even he pull of the monumental task of bringing Watchmen to the screen? Keep in mind this would be his first big experience with a "hollywood" big budget movie. I hope his artsy ass can take exectutives breathing down his neck. I mean, Pi was a college film, Requiem for a Dream was an indie arthouse film...I hope he is able to keep all of his regular crew cuz those two movies were masterpieces! The only think I don't want is for some studio dipshit to compare Watchmen's intellegence to the moodiness and slow pace of the Hulk. I can see it now, "we need to make Rorshach like the Punisher; an anti-hero, and the Nite Owl, well he can be like Spiderman and Batman mixed! Ditch the comedian, he's too mean and depressing, in fact lets rewrite this whole movie and make the Watchmen into an X-men clone! It'll make millions!!! You got all that Darren baby? Alrighty, good work, I'm gonna go do another line off a stripper's tits..." <Shudder> --MadMadHatter

  • July 26, 2004, 5:24 a.m. CST

    Spamgelus got it right for Watchmen casting

    by weird v3.0

    David Caruso as Rorschach is a winner. And Darren is a great choice, because, as he proved with "Requiem...", he LOVES his characters, and what is Watchmen, but a characters study. Blind faith.

  • July 26, 2004, 12:25 p.m. CST

    And the final word...

    by Ford Fairlane

    Megatron doesn't even have to transform in the movie until the very end, when they use the giant climatic "OH NO!!! OPTIMUS IS GOING TO DIE" money shot, with someone holding Megatron (Devastaor is a GREAT idea). You don't have to have him transform everytime he gets pissed off. Just once, and make it count.

  • July 26, 2004, 6:31 p.m. CST

    What happened to 'Flicker'?

    by Magpie13

    I thought Aronofsky was going to do 'Flicker'(!!? I love that book and was really looking forward to a film. Anyway, I still vote for Giovanni Ribisi as Rorschach. El Dingo

  • July 31, 2004, 9:56 p.m. CST

    wathmen script

    by syco

    heres a script i found on the net