July 22, 2004, 4:39 a.m. CST
to Oprah in the ludicrous Catwoman costume might have been the greatest thing of all time. Seeing the look on Oprah's face as she sees Halle in that ridicoulous costume. High comdedy.
July 22, 2004, 4:40 a.m. CST
Please someone save her from these bad choices.....
July 22, 2004, 4:41 a.m. CST
My Batman Animated Series set didn't have a coupon for this but whatever...it's all about the popcorn when I see it.
July 22, 2004, 4:42 a.m. CST
And we don't even get a goddamn BATMAN teaser with it! (And BTW, please don't call it BATMAN BEGINS, Warners -- that sounds stupid. Just call it BATMAN.)
July 22, 2004, 4:46 a.m. CST
by The Schrik
Yeah, I'm not gonna see this piece of shit. Halle Berry should do porn now. [url=www.schrik.tk]click me[/url]
July 22, 2004, 5:03 a.m. CST
by el zar
Purr-fectly crappy. Why, oh why waste money on this when you can feed the hungry...
July 22, 2004, 5:21 a.m. CST
but just read Jerry Goldsmith passed awway. http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=21198&forumID=1 Well, this truly bad news
July 22, 2004, 5:56 a.m. CST
by Judge Briggs
S I K E. This movie should be Hollywood's abortion.
July 22, 2004, 6:01 a.m. CST
Are you sure about this? I couldn't find it on any news sites. I hope it's not true. He's made too many bad movies watchable (including the afformentioned Supergirl) to go now. Of course, he's got to go sooner or later, but I'm not ready yet. If I concentrate hard enough, I can make it not true...
July 22, 2004, 6:34 a.m. CST
check out the forums at film score monthly, it has been confirmed. very very sad day
July 22, 2004, 6:42 a.m. CST
by Indiana Clones
God bless, Jerry.
July 22, 2004, 7:19 a.m. CST
....Harry compares it to Supergirl and Supergirl wins out!!Sheesh, how stinky is this pile of shit then???
July 22, 2004, 7:22 a.m. CST
Gonna have to confirm this...First Michael Kamen eariler this year, and now possibly good 'ole Jerry!! Man this day is really sucking.
July 22, 2004, 7:28 a.m. CST
Where is the WB marketing guy who was trying to tell us all this film is in the same vain as Blade Runner? Come on buddy, post your corporate views now and take your lashings like a man.
July 22, 2004, 7:42 a.m. CST
that'll piss the studios off most
July 22, 2004, 8:07 a.m. CST
Smoking hot? Yes, absolutely. Outstanding actress?! Watch out, Austin... I think Harry may be HIGH ON CRACK!
July 22, 2004, 8:31 a.m. CST
I Tivo'd it, but only watched about two minutes of it before I had to leave last night. Thirty seconds of Julie Newmar and I forgot all about Halle.
July 22, 2004, 8:41 a.m. CST
"Power of Shadow, DESTROY HER!!!" Classic! Almost as good as "No wire hangers EVER!!"
July 22, 2004, 9:18 a.m. CST
biggest, fattest, sloppiest, beardiest, sellout on the planet. i guess the pain of selling out is satisfied when you can buy an extra dozen donuts with your 'catwoman' paycheck. anyone that considers seeing this is truly retarded.
July 22, 2004, 9:32 a.m. CST
I mean, fans of the comic character and Batman movies won't touch this, it's too much of a departure from anything Catwoman's ever been. It won't be a date movie, no chick wants to see her date drooling over Berry's Booty. There's no naked Berry, so people looking for that will just rent Swordfish again. I really can't figure out WB's target demographic for this one. Maybe they're hoping to get the overflow from sold out Spiderman 2 theaters.
July 22, 2004, 9:35 a.m. CST
i don't get it. are people posting because they are angry at halle berry for taking the role of catwoman? shouldn't they be directing their anger at WB for opting to fund this? you can't really blame the actress for accepting the biggest female comic book role to date, can you now? i'm just saying this to try and be the voice of reason here. i am by no means a halle berry fan. don't even think she's hot at all. though catwoman, as a character, is not enough to warrant a solo movie, you know that its gonna make some money for WB. anyway, from what i've seen of the teaser trailer, it doesn't look that bad. just very, very average.
July 22, 2004, 9:54 a.m. CST
Why waste our time(and yours) with this stupid shit Harry?
July 22, 2004, 9:57 a.m. CST
July 22, 2004, 9:58 a.m. CST
Oh God. Well then, no wonder he liked "Van Helsing", too, and likes "Crapwoman" now... Ahh, no, I see it now - Harry's just joking by saying some parts of Catwoman are watchable. Ah, that's good, for a while I felt disturbed.
July 22, 2004, 10:10 a.m. CST
OK ... I admit it ... I'm not really that charged about seeing this movie, but I am a big Peter Wingfield fan (Methos from Highlander) and I know he has a small part in Catwoman. My question for those who have seen it: How small? I know he plays a scientist and I know what basically happens to him. I'm just wondering how many minutes he might be on the screen? More than one scene? Thanks for any info. TYO
July 22, 2004, 10:14 a.m. CST
By the way, it's "resonant" and "ineptitude." Get an editor, for the love of God. Wasn't Alex Borstein the voice of Lois Griffin in the Family Guy? Too bad I'll never see what she looks like, 'cause I won't even approach a theater that plays this ridiculous piece of crap. Sigh. It's times like this that I wish fettastic was still around to give us his opinion of this movie. His ex-girlfriend was Catwoman after all. Good times.
July 22, 2004, 10:25 a.m. CST
Hey Harry, this was a good review. I dont mean a positive review. I mean a well written review. It isnt too long. Its clear and balanced. you come up with the right answer so you dont look like you're on the take. and you dont use obnoxious vulgar references to any part of your anatomy or bodily functions. Could this be a renaissance moment? seize it, man. seize it! (..sigh...seize the MOMENT, harry. seize the MOMENT...)
July 22, 2004, 10:59 a.m. CST
i figured out that a lot of you don't actually have a) any movie taste b) any reasonings behind your movie tastes. You're like buttons, to be switched on and off. Spiderman!!! on. Catwoman!! off. its like you don't have a mind of your own. how can u jump on the bandwagon and automatically assume that Catwoman will suck? you haven't seen it yet and honestly you probably wouldn't know a good movie if u saw it. and comments on Halle -- first of all, grow some balls. Halle Berry is fine. get over it. she's a beautiful woman, not the most gorgeous woman on the planet but she is one of the best looking females out there in Hollywood. look at her skin, body, smile, etc. Her acting is like her beauty - she's a very decent actress people. look at her earlier films. Halle Berry can act. don't get it twisted. she's not the greatest but she is better than 80% of Hollywood actresses. get over it. and what is with the racism on these forums? any time there is a black leading character, many of u get antsy and automatically deride the movies. e.g. I, Robot. When i saw all the negativity here, i knew i HAD to watch I,Robot. because most of you don't actually have a taste. I Robot was FUCKING SICK. one of the best movies i've seen in years. WAYYYY better than Spiderman 2 in EVERY department --- plot, acting, EFFECTS... Sorry AICN... i was hoping this would be a site where people can appreciate true cinema instead of being lame ass talkbackers that like whatever 'seems cool'. You don't have to like every movie i like (e.g. Lord of the Rings... i wasn't really feelin those movies) but at least respect when a great movie is out and needs support. Lord of the Rings, even though i'm not a fan at all, are amazingly done movies. I can just tell... because i actually know a thing or two about cinema. so get a clue and an actual taste. use your mind/heart when u rate movies.
July 22, 2004, 11:03 a.m. CST
she's a beautiful mixed woman. i would give her the respect i give any sista, but the way she's propagated as being the epitome of black beauty is just plain wrong. she's mixed. people need to see this and treat her as a person, instead of a 'black person'. i just mentioned her blackness because i notice a lot of negativity whenever some actor/actress is either black, half-black or a minority (Jessica Alba flaming TBs, anyone?) i think many of u need to get a clue.
July 22, 2004, 11:11 a.m. CST
by The Founder
Why call this Catwoman if you're going to change the character?? I honeslty believe that if this was another movie and another character that it would actually be decent, but when you attache a known cahracter just for name only it causes failure. Catwoman has been around for well over 40 years, and it a shame what Wb has done. I love Halle, but this movie needs to fail, so these d@mn studios will actually stick to the source material. WB isn't the only studio, cause FOX is gonna hit us with Fantastic Four in name only next year. Same writer for Catwoman is will handle the script writting duties for the FF movie.
July 22, 2004, 11:25 a.m. CST
by Cletus Van Damme
July 22, 2004, 11:48 a.m. CST
First off, to the I, Robot guy... most of what I saw on here regarding that movie, other than the usual "That movie sucks, every movie sucks except for the one I like, an obscure Norwegian flick that a friend of mine did and no one else has ever seen" trolls, was that I, Robot, the Asimov book, has absolutely nothing to do with the movie. I think Harry, or one of the others, suggested that it be named iRobot, which was a pretty good suggestion. Which leads to Catwoman. Why do a movie based on something so old, so KNOWN, and not reference ANYTHING to do with its history? It just doesn't make any sense to some/most of us. As for Spidey II, I'm losing the love for Tobey. He talks WAAAAAAY... Tooo... Slow... I lose... the... train of... what he's... saying... when he.... does... a.... .... ... monologue. And... well... he's just not funny. I need my Spidey funny, dammit! Pax
July 22, 2004, 11:49 a.m. CST
iRobot better than Spider-man 2????? puh-leaze. iRobot was ok, better than i had thought it would be, but Spider was much, much better. Robot lacked the most important part to making a movie enjoyable -- characters! i don't care if will smith died in that car or if he saves the world. his character is B-O-R-I-N-G, moving from plot point A, to plot point B. at least i care what happened to tobey, MJ, and harry. and as far as knowing Crapwoman will suck without seeing it -- I HAVE EYES THAT ARE ABLE TO WATCH TRAILERS! you know, those things that are supposed to sell you on a movie. what do i see in the catwoman trailer? woman in a tight suit fights bad guys. so to all you 14 year olds, yeah, i guess this will be a great movie. anyone with 3 functioning brain cells knows to avoid at all costs.
July 22, 2004, 12:05 p.m. CST
Harry wrote a hateful review of a "mediocre" film for the punisher. THe film wasn't the worst movie but it wasnt THAT bad. so why does catwoman get a better review than punisher?
July 22, 2004, 12:18 p.m. CST
"I own SUPERGIRL on DVD for that one perfect moment in the film, where Helen Slater flies over that pool of water dancing and teasing her fingers along the surface. It was and remains magic." Faaag
July 22, 2004, 12:28 p.m. CST
July 22, 2004, 12:28 p.m. CST
If it aint broke don't fix it! Just look at what happened to Batman franchise. Now they have to "re-reinvent" it by taking it back to its comic book roots. If they hadn't tried "reinventing" it in the first place and just stayed true to the source material we wouldn't have had to suffer through the shitfests that were Batman Forever and Batman & Robin. They "reinvented" Catwoman and look at the results. A fucking stupid movie that is gonna tank at the B.O. Now there is news of a campy-spoofy reinvention of GL w/ Jack Black. When are these fucking morons going to learn that comic book fans want faithful adaptaions of their beloved characters. Why the hell would I want to go see a movie based on something in name only? The whole point of a comic book movie is to see those characters and stories that you grew up reading come "alive" on the big screen--not to "reinvent" the wheel!!!
July 22, 2004, 12:29 p.m. CST
CatWoman didnt have a movie harry was paid to whore out, running with it opening weekend. That's why CatWoman had a very clam review, wher pnisher had a "SUX0RZ" review
July 22, 2004, 12:30 p.m. CST
by Jervis Tetch
There are reports that Halle Berry is stunt-doubled by a stuntMAN in "Catwoman." So, straight guys: don't get too horny when CW starts with the S/M beat-ups in "her" skimpy outfit. You'll hate yourself in the morning.
July 22, 2004, 12:35 p.m. CST
personally i cared for Will Smith. i like his charisma, his jokes and i just think the guy is a very decent black man. certainly doing way more for me than ignorant rappers. but that aside, IRobot was simply very good. David Hyde Pierce (i think he was the 'weird' robot) did an excellent job bringing voice and life to the robot. IRobot was better than spiderman 2. simple. actually, Spiderman 2 was very bad because of its characters. first of all, there were too many suplots with them, all which were too lame. u care about Spiderman because u've always cared about him from back in the comic book days. thats the truth. The character of Spooner has never been in a comic or book. he is new to u and like a lot of people, they tend to reject something new and stick with the familiar. in truth, if u had never watched Spiderman before and u didn't know a thing about the comics and say number 2, u would think it was an extremely stupid, dull, slow paced movie. the uninspired slow-moving shallow dialogue would make u throw up. i never felt anything deep about the movie. it was so shallow - plot development, the villain's powers/purpose, MJ, the mother (and when Uncle Ben came back -- that scene was stupid. he might as well have been on crack and seen a dead guy come to life). S2 was shallow. great for kids movie but in truth, i need something with quite a lot more depth. if u want depth in your movie, an actual romance u can care for because it makes sense, see "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind". after watching that and liking it, rewatch Spiderman 2. then u'll see what i'm saying.
July 22, 2004, 12:39 p.m. CST
it was decent. not the best but it was not bad at all. i'd rate it a B. and having watched both S2 and Punisher, i'll have to say that Punisher is the better movie. with what Punisher had available to it (in terms of storylines, actors, budget), Punisher delivers WAY more than S2 does. Spiderman 2 had a great budget. yet, after watching the flawless effects that were in IRobot, i couldn't help but feel that the effects in S2 were a tad subpar. in fact, i'm convinced they spent almost all their money in hpying up the movie and placing ads for it everywhere than actually making the movie. but as they, hype works. appeal to the lowest common denominator (children, the lame brained, teens) and u'll be aight.
July 22, 2004, 12:42 p.m. CST
by Pontsing Barset
... you pedantic grammar policing jackass. I'd rather read Harry than you ANY DAY. It's about content and passion you douche-bag, NOT "The Queen's English". Could you understand what Harry wrote? You could? Then shut the fuck up.
July 22, 2004, 1:07 p.m. CST
by Blok Narpin
Her name is not Selina Kyle. Her name is Patience Phillips. End of story --- IT SUCKS. I'm not a nitpicker. I don't care about minor changes. Joker shot Batman's parents instead of Joe Chill? Ok. Organic Web shooters? Fine. Absorbing Man is Hulk's dad? I'm ok with it. Kingpin is a black man? Why not? But when you change a character who has been around since 1940's identity it is a slap in the face to the fans and Bob Kane. What's next? A Superman movie where he lives in Chicago and his name isn't Clark Kent/?? Or how about more lame brained --- a Green Lantern movie that is a zany comedy starring Jack Black? Oh, yeah. They are doing that. BITE ME WARNERS!! Well at least Batman, and (FIANLLY! Thanks Brian Singer!!) Superman are on the right track.
July 22, 2004, 1:12 p.m. CST
... well, OK, I guess it's too late for that but you'd be better off quitting now, nonetheless. You're just digging the ditch deeper and deeper at this point. You've already demonstrated, very effectively, that you know virtually nothing about Cinema and have questionable, if not downright baffling tastes in films. You're making yourself look stupid bro, hang it up already...
July 22, 2004, 1:18 p.m. CST
...when I complimented Harry on the absence of his usual annoying vulgarity...forgot the whole "sucks to completion" thing. (Not that I'm a prude by the way. Neil Cumpston is funny as hell when HE does it...with Harry it just comes off as crass).
July 22, 2004, 1:18 p.m. CST
I mean, I know Warner Brothers has a grip on the Mann Chain, BUT WHY THERE? Shyamalan's "The Village" will get bumped to a smaller theatre next week because of this!!! This blows, although if I was paid to see this, I might as well see it at this theatre (plus I heard the BATMAN BEGINS teaser trailer is attached). Please visit this site: http://www.cinematreasures.org/theater/246/
July 22, 2004, 1:42 p.m. CST
by andrew coleman
Not that long ago there were some reviews of Catwoman posted here and some guy was defending the movie in the talkback. SirBiatch must be joking if not he needs help. He is saying that Punisher and I, Robot were better than SP2, anyone who would actually think that doesn't see movies a lot or is just stupid because Punisher and Robot were fun but far from being really good.
July 22, 2004, 2:05 p.m. CST
That's awesome, in the dictionary sense of the word -- awe-inspiring. I'd love to see the whole film.
July 22, 2004, 2:22 p.m. CST
by Charley Varrick
July 22, 2004, 2:25 p.m. CST
by Charles Grady
I actually live closer to Hollywood, but I too know the perils of LA cinema bookings. Warner and Paramount ALWAYS book their movies at the Village and the Chinese, leaving other studios, PARTICULARLY Fox, Disney, and Universal releases, in the lurch. You're stuck going to the Crest in Westwood (the most likely bet for THE VILLAGE, since it's a BV release), or the National. In Hollywood, at least you have the Arclight, but what REALLY sucks is when a major release is booked solely at the Mann 6 Hollywood instead of the Chinese or Arclight. A lot of Uni, Sony, and Fox movies end up getting the shaft like this. Hell, I even think one of the KILL BILLS was booked at the 6 in Hollywood instead of a larger venue. In short, yes, WB and PARAMOUNT have the pull with Mann to always get the prestige screens, while other huge releases (KING ARTHUR at the El Capitan and Crest?????) get the smaller houses.
July 22, 2004, 2:36 p.m. CST
by Pontsing Barset
...hell, even *I'M* a better "writer" than Harry. So what? Are you new to AICN? If not, surely you understand Harry's "style" by now. Most of us do a double take the first time we read one of his more careless or rushed dispatches, and simply shrug it off when we realize that that's the way it is. We love him ANYWAY. Like most things in life, you have to take the good with the bad. Are you one of those people that are good at EVERYTHING? (A misguided belief at best with extremely rare exceptions.) I
July 22, 2004, 2:55 p.m. CST
July 22, 2004, 3:03 p.m. CST
Harry, if you were to read these fucking things aloud once, or even re-read them once, you wouldn't come up with the brilliance that is: "Halle at home having a phone conversation with Alex Borstein
July 22, 2004, 3:09 p.m. CST
Thats like comparing the Passion of Christ to Hellboy. Makes No damn sense, in fact most of the stuff you bitch about makes no damn sense, OK you didnt like spiderman 2, fine, but when you state that punisher was better than spiderman 2 because of how much MONEY it cost , thats about the most ignorant thing to say. You telling us that Punisher would have been BETTER had it have a 200 million dollar budget? whatever, I can't understand what the hell your saying, all I know is Catwoman sucks, and deserves a harsher review than what it got from harry
July 22, 2004, 3:14 p.m. CST
for trying to convince a bunch of adolescent/virgin movie geeks why S2 was a lame movie in too many respects. everyone i know who has seen that movie hates it even more than i do. but then again, those people are educated and somewhat mature. funny enough, they all loved X2. so its not like they don't like comic book movies, they just don't like crap comic book movies. let me put it this way: if u've ever had a serious relationship with a woman and/or been laid enough to know what sex is, u'll find the whole MJ/Peter Parker relationship lame and extremely... highschool. a little less than that even. so continue to watch S2 and pick up those G-Unit cds. i think i'll be the "dumb" one out who bumps his Common cd and watches movies actually worthy of hype like "Eternal Sunshine" or "I,Robot".
July 22, 2004, 3:22 p.m. CST
by Wyrdy the Gerbil
The reports about most of the action scenes when shes wearing that dumbass costume being done by a guy are TRUE, he`s a Brasilian dancer
July 22, 2004, 3:22 p.m. CST
people are talking about how amazing the romance was in Spiderman 2. how it made the characters so real. and how real they were. and thats why i brought up "Eternal Sunshine". i don't think these people have any idea what makes believable romance. and romance, ask anyone, is best if its believable and makes sense. so that point is killed. secondly, Punisher, for the materials it had, proved its worth as a movie. because it doesn't have hype. how else is it going to make money? the director had to at least try. with Spiderman, they don't give a fuck. there's already so much hype. and people were bitching about hype for Matrix Reloaded. i haven't seen hype before like the hype for S2. Punisher is actually a better superhero film than Spiderman 2. don't cry - its true. u geeks need to learn how to seperate the comic books from the movies. I'm sure the Spiderman comic books are better than the Punisher maybe. but the movies/adaptation? Punisher. but then again, like i said, if u're a child, Spiderman movies will appeal to u. and whats the talk about Spiderman movies sticking to the source material? since when in the comics did Peter Parker get bit by a spider that gave him powers?!?! this is my point. Spiderman was dumbed down to make as much cash as possible. plain and simple.
July 22, 2004, 3:41 p.m. CST
Uh, check out Amazing Fantasy #15. Peter Parker is bitten by a radioactive spider, which gives him amazing spider-like abilities. I can appreciate that you didn't like Spiderman 2. It was a bit uneven. But, overall, it was faithful to the comics, had decent comic moments, decent dramatic moments, really good action pieces. That's about the best you can hope for coming out of hollywood these days.
July 22, 2004, 3:48 p.m. CST
He ripped The Punisher a new one and freakin' Catwoman seems to suck a basketball through a garden hose.
July 22, 2004, 3:48 p.m. CST
MILLA FUCKING JOVOVICH!!!! She is without a doubt the actress most qualified to play Selina Kyle. Can someone please send this casting to WB for the Batman sequel? Goddamn Halle Berry. I like her and all, but she seriously gets way too much work.
July 22, 2004, 3:49 p.m. CST
July 22, 2004, 3:50 p.m. CST
'It's better to keep your mouth shut and be THOUGHT an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt.' WORD!
July 22, 2004, 3:53 p.m. CST
I,Robot seemed to have the better special effects. I think they did spend a lot of cheese on advertising for Spidey. They should have spent a few more cents on the CG...CHEERS Amigos!
July 22, 2004, 3:57 p.m. CST
I'm on my 7th shot guys...CHEERS!
July 22, 2004, 4:12 p.m. CST
by doug scott
"The overall story and character work is pathetic. Nothing really genuine or resonate. There
July 22, 2004, 4:53 p.m. CST
Does anybody know if the trailer for Batman:Year One is tacked on to the print?If so it could be th only reason to see it.
July 22, 2004, 5:01 p.m. CST
And neither was Trinity you geeks!
July 22, 2004, 5:27 p.m. CST
July 22, 2004, 5:45 p.m. CST
You hate Spider-Man 2. We get the fucking point. Just cause you hated it doesn't mean everyone else has to as well.
July 22, 2004, 5:55 p.m. CST
first off, wise decision moving the discussion from catwoman to irobot -- good idea to defend a movie that can, maybe, somewhat be defended, as opposed to crapwoman. well played. next, irobot still sucked b/c guess what, despite what you say i know you couldn't care about will smith in the movie. sure you might like his as a black role model - and that's great - but we are talking about a character in a movie! not how he is in real life! you know how desperate the story is when they have to show spooner touching that scar 5,485 times. PLEASE! it's like "oh, he's touching his scar again, for the 5,485th time. wait, OMG! i actually CARE all of a sudden! WHAT A CHARACTER!" and don't tell me you care about the female in that movie either, since she served absolutely no point to the plot except to have a female in the movie. and the robot played by david hyde pierce? why not try imdb next time before you guess so you can actually sound remotely intelligent.
July 22, 2004, 6:39 p.m. CST
The fact that you try to pass yourself off as mature is pathetic, what is mature about shouting that you didn't like Spider-Man 2 to a bunch of geeks at aint it cool news? If you are at this web-site you have no right talking about maturity. Stop acting like you are somehow above us, you are a fucking geek too! Like you have friends, you cynical waste. Only a lonely and bitter snob would attempt to draw attention to themselves by bashing a perfect superhero film like Spider-Man 2. And you are a bitter and pathetic snob, and if you don't like Spider-Man 2 that is your own fault, because you are an asshole and it wasn't meant to be viewed by assholes.
July 22, 2004, 7:10 p.m. CST
by Voltron Lions
sirbiatchreturns, you are an asshampster.
July 22, 2004, 7:16 p.m. CST
yeah i found out it was the pirate in "Dodgeball" who was the robot. so what i got the name wrong? does it really matter?! is it at all related to any of the points i'm making? wow. how u prove yourselves to be tools constantly. let me guess, u guys didn't like Dodgeball either. it didn't have that 'cool' u were looking for, like someone doing the whole 70s thing --- funny hair, funny talk, etc. Dodgeball has to be one of the funniest movies to come out this year (the script/concept was a tad short of total comedic genius), that and "Eternal Sunshine", which is also very funny. but i guess u geeks wouldn't see that too. It doesn't have Jim Carrey shittin on himself and screaming loud to get a simple, lame, 'direct' laugh. the humor is subtle, much more suitable to the situation, realistic and frankly way above your tool-like heads. Dodgeball was way better than that lame ass overhyped Anchorman, which looks like total shit. i love Will Ferrell but i'm convinced it is garbage. The reviews for it are even decent for some reason. especially the guys on this website, Harry, Quint...yet everyone who's seen it tells me its total SHIT. deja vu anyone? Spiderman 2 - the most overhyped vehicle ever. and u fanboys cant seem to see how u're getting played. they probably spent 90% of the budget simply on advertising Spiderman 2 than actually making a great movie. why? because they know it will attract tools. look up... the intelligent know what i mean. there's another dude that agrees with me. IRobot was far superior, even if u only want to agree on effects. they actually spent their money on the movie and "word of mouth" is going to carry the movie far. so worm back into your little rocks and wait until the next time the media calls u out to see another hype vehicle, Aint it Tool News. And as for the point about "i cared nothing for Will Smith's character...". wow. u show your ignorance even more. Personally, i think Will's character and scenario was very black-american. u wouldn't get it unless u actually tried to think. I thought his character was great, with his grandmother who cooks for him and all. its something i can relate to a little bit. and u care for Smith because he actually has a real prejudice...his responses to the things that happen around him make total sense. he doesnt do or say anything that just wouldn't be 'him'. and throughout the movie he is going through a self discovery --- reassessing what he thinks of robots to reach a better conclusion, discovering himself to find out how he fits into the plot. It was brilliant. but alas, brilliance is so little recognized and very underplayed. You care about ur stupid spiderman character (in the comics he's nice but in the movies, he's stupid) because u've always cared for him since the comic book days. so regardless of how lame the movie is, u'll still like it. thats the way it is. Will Smith's character is new, and has to work very hard to make himself lovable to the crowd. Spiderman has always been lovable, so u wont even notice when he's not acting right or himself. for example... what happened to the wise-cracking Spiderman that we love so much? instead we get this brooding "my life sucks so much" chick flick loser of a retard. but see... u wouldn't see that. cuz many of u are blinded. Master_Shake is the only dude that has said anything worth thinking about in defense of Spiderman and i think u should read his shit. go watch Dawson's Creek or some shit. that seems to be the kind of character development you guys love. Dawsons Creek/Smallville (another amazingly crap show) + old Superman plot == Spiderman 2. Bitches!
July 22, 2004, 7:25 p.m. CST
Your arguments are nonsensical. You have been owned in every thread that I have ever seen you in. At the very least you provide us with retarted amusement. Keep typing-- I am laughing my ass off!
July 22, 2004, 7:26 p.m. CST
by Red Raider
No need to state the obvious, however... _____________________________ p.s. BURN IN HELL WB, FOR NOT BEING FAITHFUL TO THE STORY OF CATWOMAN! It's Selena Kyle, not Patience Price, you corporate asshats!
July 22, 2004, 7:27 p.m. CST
by Darth Thoth
1. Halle is HOT 2. She needs a better agent 3. Grayson (trailer) is bananas! Wow, that thing blew my mind. Props to John Fiorella. 4. SpiderMan 2 on IMAX this weekend. It's on. 5. RIP Jerry Goldsmith.
July 22, 2004, 8:12 p.m. CST
bed with me.
July 22, 2004, 8:19 p.m. CST
so Will Smith's character happens to be deep and original? that is interesting because I could swear that other than Ali and Bagger Vance his characters have all resembled the same person. Or is it that the guy from Wild Wild West, ID4, Bad Boys 1 & 2, MIB & MIB2, and The Fresh Prince happen to all have the same mentality and sense of humor. The character arch is obvious and thrown in our face. and please show us your great cinematic understanding and mention a film other than Eternal Sunshine. yes it was good. most people know that. pick something else.
July 22, 2004, 8:29 p.m. CST
you're an ass and you know next to nothing. please refrain from ever posting any of you opinions.
July 22, 2004, 8:52 p.m. CST
For a liberal town, Hollywood sure doesn't like to offend them racists.
July 22, 2004, 9:01 p.m. CST
which is in essence very much him. but i happen to like these characters. Will Smith is probably one of the few celebrities i would want to meet. but that aside, his character was funny. yes, it wasn't really that deep but it didn't come in the way of the movie. it just fit well. anyway, examples of fine cinema: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and please don't tell me u loved this because of its lush martial arts and scenery --- u would just show yourself to be stupid. CTHD has an amazing story, superb acting, believable romance that was very much slept on. stupid critics focused on the icing rather than the actual cake. "its a pretty movie". but anyway, more movies that deserve mention: "Hero", "Big Fish", "Matrix", "Matrix Reloaded". yes, Matrix Reloaded. the ideas introduced in the 2nd were superb. don't front. Revolutions disappointed so so much though. "Lord of the Rings"... "Undercover Brother" (this movie is better than ALL 3 Austin Powers. i'm by no means disrespecting AP but the lines in Undercover Brother were genius. maybe u wont see it. Why do u think Dave Chappelle was in it?), "Dodgeball" (funny as hell), "I,Robot" "X2", "Memento", "Last Samurai". yes, Last Samurai. Ken Watanabe was perfect. the supporting cast all perfect. Tom Cruise? well, he was very decent. at least he didn't mess it up. these movies are all somewhat recent. and there's of course classics like "Gladiator", "Godfather", "Scarface" etc... Trust me, i can mostly tell when i see a good movie, even if its not my taste. I can see "hmmn, he/she would really like this". like Lord of the Rings. was never feeling it but i know the movies are superb. end of story. and the movies i'm mentioning aren't extremely artsy or "look, i know a movie u don't know" type deal. Hollywood does come out with very very good shit sometimes. u just got to know what is good shit. because Hollywood is a business. they'll promote anything, even if its crap. they gotta get paid.
July 22, 2004, 9:04 p.m. CST
I'm beginning to think they deserve credit for not doing the basic black leather number that every costumed vigilante wears these days. And costumes that work on the comic book page (where the artist can control perspective, shading, etc.) could look laughable on screen. Take Darwyn Cooke's very cool design for Catwoman--I'm not sure it would work in the real world.
July 22, 2004, 9:09 p.m. CST
Hollywood is very far from liberal and seems to consistently pander to middle-America. I know it is obvious, but that is why Will can't boink Bridget or why Denzel can't boink Julia Roberts, etc. Also a quick note to those who think Halle is a great actress. I do think she is attractive and adequate as an actress, but just adequate. the only acting she did that was great was in the scenes opposite Billy Bob in Monster's Ball. In that same movie her acting gets monumentally worse when she has to play opposite P. Diddy. The better the actor across from you, the better your acting gets. It is the great actors that can rise above marginal co-stars, or sub-par scripts and make something out of nothing. Halle Berry is far, very very far, from being a great actress.
July 22, 2004, 9:35 p.m. CST
by Bill Maher
Fuck those racist motherfuckers at WB. First they attack the African-American community with shitty TV shows on the WB. Now they've done their worst to bring down Halle Berry, a strong, PROUD black actress. It used to be that strong, PROUD black actresses like Gloria Hendry and Pam Grier would show their strong, PROUD tits -but only in "B" blacksploitation films. Then there was Cynda Williams, who had the best set of all-natural knockers in Hollywood. But she was also stuck in "B" movies, which The Man started calling "independent films" in order to keep blacks in their place. Along comes Halle Berry, who proved that a strong, PROUD black actress could show her tits in major motion pictures just as well as white chicks like Gwyneth Paltrow and Nicole Kidman -NO! BETTER! Because Halle has a better rack. Not only did she whip 'em out and win an Oscar, but she blazed a trail for other African-American actresses like Charlize Theron to show their tits in first-rate movies. Charlize didn't just show her tits and win an Oscar, she was so convincing in her role as a white trash serial killer in Monster that some people think Charlize Theron is WHITE! But Warner Brother tried to undo all of that by casting Halle Berry in Catwoman. First of all, comic book movies are for kids under 12 and big fat fags. DC comics are the worst. So they have her play a villain -a thief- who resorts to vigilante justice against those who did her wrong. Is WB in league with the FBI? Have they brought back COINTELPRO? Instead of playing a HERO like Rosa Parks -only with a smokin' bod, they make Halle Berry play an Angela Davis type out to get revenge against Whitey. This kind of bullshit will only make race relations worse. Of course, WB knows this and that's why they do it. They want MORE black voters illegally removed from the voting rolls in Florida and the rest of the South and Catwoman is part of that plot. Some cracker will go into the theatre because he has Thomas Jefferson/ Sally Hemmings fantasies about Halle Berry ("Hey Baby, what are you willing to do to get out of picking my tobacco?") and will come out thinking that even hot sistas want to kick his ass. He'll then call up his local election commission and ask them to remove thousands of black voters and get Bush re-elected.This will have a chilling effect on other black actresses. Do you think Garcelle Bouvais is going to show HER tits in a movie now? FUCK NO! The message has been sent to aspiring African-American actresses: If you get too big and your knockers are too perfect, you will be cast in comic book movies and 400-pound jackoffs will bitch at you for the rest of your life because you wore different shoes than in the comic. And your name will be on a Felon Purge List in Florida and you won't be allowed to vote. Fuck Warner Brothers and double-fuck Catwoman.
July 22, 2004, 9:45 p.m. CST
by el zar
Something's wrong here.
July 22, 2004, 10:12 p.m. CST
You keep gripping about character development with spiderman 2 but you forget this movie is also for kids. Its a movie aimed at all audiences. You spend time focussing on character development like Magnolia, or 21 Grams, and you'll lose your target audience. Sam Raimi cant please everyone, so you have to admit that for the type of movie he was doing ( a movie for everyone) he did an excellent job. im not gonna argue about punisher cuz I actually enjoyed the punisher, but the punisher had too many problems that were unforgivable. The fact that everyone knew where he lived but never really acted on it. The music that played as he fought the russian, The moron that the crime lord turned out to be, and the skull in flames after the car explosion. these things damaged the movie severely.
July 22, 2004, 10:19 p.m. CST
PUD!, you need to up your dosage. Hollywood didn't make Halle sign to do this film. If she had any knowledge of the source material and had researched the character, she could have seen the disaster coming her way. Blame her; she got paid, but made a bad choice. To sirbiatch and others here,you guys crucify and degrade anyone who doesn't see it your way. You all make some good points and bad points, but you come across as self-righteous assholes who seem to forget that these are films, not Bibles or scriptures.Damn!
July 22, 2004, 10:23 p.m. CST
by Bill Maher
That's the way Hollywood racism works.
July 22, 2004, 10:41 p.m. CST
What's the difference between film and the Bible or scriptures?
July 22, 2004, 10:57 p.m. CST
i'll just look at it like "The CAt in the Hat" -- a movie i would hate to see but for the kiddies, its not half bad. Rmacho makes a good point. i guess i could not have been pleased. but then again, i thoroughly enjoyed X2. why was S2 not like X2!?!
July 22, 2004, 11:40 p.m. CST
dodgeball one of the funniest comedies of the year. good gravy where do i start? vince couldn't have looked less interested in being in the movie. he is funnier in the NHL scene of swingers that in ALL of dodgeball. ben stiller? he plays the same character in zoolander, only *angry* --oooooohhhhh HOW HILARIOUS! i hate to have to agree with you, but ESOTSM was actually a really decent movie, one of the better ones this year. i still can't believe you liked dodgeball. so here, next time you want to see someone get hit in the crotch(since you think that is ORIGINAL comedy) try watching america's funniest home videos. there, i just saved you $8.50 - now get lost.
July 22, 2004, 11:55 p.m. CST
What's wrong with appreciating Berry in a pvc outfit?
July 23, 2004, 12:22 a.m. CST
by Adrian Tripod
Ok, here's the deal: I'm writing a book on comic adaptations, and in my "research" I've unearthed some real stinkbombs. But I can honestly say that this is the worst. Maybe not the worst movie ever made, but of the 250+ movies I've seen so far this year, it outcraps everything else. Worse than a double feature of the Reb Brown CAPTAIN AMERICA failed tv pilots from the late '70s. Worse than RETURN OF SWAMP THING. Worse than RICHIE RICH. It plays like some ungodly hybrid of SPIDER-MAN 2 (fancy cg wall-crawling and fighting) and I, ROBOT (megacorporation poised to begin worldwide distribution of - gasp!- deadly product), but with DAREDEVIL's production values. To his credit, Pitof seems to know he's strapped to the summer's biggest shitbomb, and tries his hardest to distract you from the awful acting, stupid dialogue, and absolutely nonsensical logic with a combination of semi-slick effects, pretty pictures, vertigo-inspiring editing, and Berry's sex appeal. It almost works - for the first half of the movie. Things go downhill after the crazy cat lady, and the absolutely absurd jewelry store shenanigans, and sink further than any movie ever with the cutting edge police science of matching lipstick prints. I kid you not. See it for yourself if you must. But don't pay. Please for the love of all that is good, don't give this movie the $80 million+ gross that will tempt WB into making another one.
July 23, 2004, 1:02 a.m. CST
by Puddin' Taine
See 2 Days in the Valley and Reindeer Games for evidence. On another note, she could've backed out of this movie if she wanted to at anytime after seeing the script; after seeing the movie with whoever they wouldn've replaced her with, I think we'd all have given Halle a pass for backing out.
July 23, 2004, 1:04 a.m. CST
by Puddin' Taine
July 23, 2004, 1:37 a.m. CST
I mean, Supergirl: the Movie sucked. Ahnuld-in-Batman-&-Robin sucked. Yes, Maureen Teefy *saved* the Supergirl movie from being totally intolerable. Oh, wait, that was Grease 2. Not even Teefy could save Supergirl. But heck, Alex Borstein is no Maureen Teefy. And Warner Brothers hasn't been able to make a coherent, watchable tentpole action flick since the first time they overpaid Mel Gibson for a Lethal Weapon sequel (That would be LW2).
July 23, 2004, 1:37 a.m. CST
Man i know those those ratings of 10 for catwoman had to be some sick joke. Why would anyone besides 12 year old girls want to see this god awful piece of trash directed by some dink named Pitof? I hope it bombs. Warner Brothers still dosent have a clue even after Batman and Robin.
July 23, 2004, 1:38 a.m. CST
I think we had this argument when aicn was talkin' about a possible DARK TOWER series and someone suggested Berry to play Detta/Odetta. Never mind that Berry is only half black; so is Lisa Bonet and she is WAY cooler than Berry. Ever watch an interview with Berry? She has the look of a deer caught in the headlights of an oncoming Hummer. She is just not smart or clever or even (it seems) very aware of what's going on beyond the role of the moment. I mean, didn't she have ANY clue that this role was gonna suck from day one? When she's trying to be sexy, it's just that...TRYING, and usually trying too hard. Her recent role choices (first Gothika, now this) do not inspire confidence. We now return you to Harry's ass.
July 23, 2004, 2:31 a.m. CST
by jules windex
I guess its easier than thinking for yourselves, which this site proves handily is a concept far beyond the reach of many.
July 23, 2004, 2:52 a.m. CST
is that I worked for 3 days on this film. It was the first acting job that I ever got after moving to the big city of Vancouver, so I'm looking forward to seeing my face plastered to the big screen...but, i admit, it does look pretty awful. Oh well
July 23, 2004, 3:18 a.m. CST
Oh, this is bound to get me in trouble (or, more likely, this site), but I talked to DC staffers at the Con here in San Diego yesterday who had already seen the movie and *they* think it sucks. But this is what happens when Warner Brothers studios doesn't let the comics people have any sort of control over the destinies of their characters in the movies. You'd think WB studios would have figured that out after Batman & Robin, but apparently, they need at least Catwoman and Constantine to flop first.
July 23, 2004, 3:42 a.m. CST
July 23, 2004, 8:54 a.m. CST
1. A moron who believes he's a genius and feels the need to foist said belief on poor unsuspecting strangers. 2. A juvenile twerp with the critical faculties of an Aardvark preaching to what he perceives to be the 'artistic appreciation challenged' masses. 3. An egotistical blowhard who doesn't have even enough sense to realize that ALL of his "arguments" have been BURIED, by more knowledgeable, vastly more articulate Talkbackers over and over and over... do u all have any idea who i mite be talking about?
July 23, 2004, 8:56 a.m. CST
by Pontsing Barset
Still ain't funny dood.
July 23, 2004, 9:02 a.m. CST
Check out the new fan films on theforce.net -- "Grayson" and Sandy Collora's "World's Finest". Take heed, WB, this is what superheroes are supposed to look and act like. No flavor-of-the-month actors, suits-in-cans, alien fabrics, black leather fetishwear, or sad feeble "reimaginings." Something is seriously wrong in Hollywood when enthusiastic but monetarily limited amateur filmmakers manage to hit all the right notes and find all the right actors, while million dollar studio productions can fail on almost every goddamn level (Spidey, X-Men and a few others excepted, natch). It's no coincidence that most superhero fan films seem to be about DC characters and not Marvel ditto. DC fans are the most dissatisfied, and understandably so. Do yourselves a favor, and download the aforementioned clips.
July 23, 2004, 9:28 a.m. CST
by The Colonel
I know nothing, NOTHING, about this comic (or any comics, really), but I know it's acclaimed and I know you fanboys love it. Thought you might want some actual NEWS today. ComingSoon.net reports that Aronofsky is signed on to direct The Watchmen at Paramount, with David Hayter scripting. What's the big deal with this comic, anyway? Anyone?
July 23, 2004, 9:57 a.m. CST
by Mr Chuff
Thanks to Knucklesmcgee for making me laugh out loud at a talkback and as for PereniumLick? Truly a classic choice of username. p.s. I dont need to see this film to know its shite. I have a brain, a huge film collection and taste.
July 23, 2004, 10:26 a.m. CST
by Special K
Get a clue dipshit. In S1, they WERE in high school! You're not impressing anyone with your complaints that S2 lacked some sort of deep emotional dark relationship. Go back to class and grow up.
July 23, 2004, 10:33 a.m. CST
and to remove the acting stick from her ass.
July 23, 2004, 10:50 a.m. CST
Please Harry, get over Halle Boring already. Yes she is attractive, no you'll never have a shot at her. Halle was so miscast as Storm, Angela Basset would have been perfect. A good director, a really good director can get a good performance out of any actor. Example: James Cameron got a good performance out of Tom Arnold in True Lies. Every time I have seen a trailer for CatAbomination I cringe, the studio should have shelved this and released it Direct to DVD. IT'S OVERTIME!
July 23, 2004, 10:51 a.m. CST
It's funny. Halle pisses and moans that Storm doesn't have enough of a story in the next X-Men movie(s) so she wants out, yet she'll do some piece of shit movie like Catwoman. Why? Because she's the centerpiece. It's not about good story, it's about being the center of attention. It's the whole "Pay me X million dollars and I'll show my (unimpressive) tits in Swordfish" thing. I'm sorry, she may be hot, but she's a stupid, self-absorbed cunt. Seriously, outside the X-Men movies, what was the last decent project she did? Keeps this up and she'll be lucky to be cast in bit parts.
July 23, 2004, 11:20 a.m. CST
but i have babies to kiss and bitches to catch... haha. ooh. i guess i'm not cool anymore, quoting Dave Chappelle and all. get a life losers. i wont be posting on this anymore as i have places to go and people to meet. so enjoy! see this as an act of retreat or nonchalance or actually having something to do with my life other than be on Aint it Tool News. i don't care. "no matter which option wins, u still all lose". haha. y'all are jokes. be sure to catch Alien Vs Predator in theaters. i'm sure thats way cooler than anything i've ever seen. i'm hoping they'll have an obscure Bruce Campbell reference, cuz thats what makes movies cool these days. bye.
July 23, 2004, 12:37 p.m. CST
by Joe Cool #2
...between this train wreck and the Green Lantern horror stories we've been hearing, I'm not sure even Bryan Singer could save Superman from the evil clutches of Warner's talking heads. A good start for Singer, however, would be to introduce some script changes in which Supes rounds up Pitof and a few WB execs, and sticks THEM in the Phantom Zone for a while (with only Catwoman, Supergirl and Batman & Robin on a continuous 24-hr loop to pass the time). A propos Catwoman, a couple more turkeys like this and Halle's gonna make Marisa Tomei's post-Oscar career look like Meryl Streep's.
July 23, 2004, 1:09 p.m. CST
Once upon a time, I worked for WB, (or, as I prefer to call them,
July 23, 2004, 1:23 p.m. CST
by Mosquito March
And Halle Berry is a dumb bitch who can't even deliver Bond dialogue convincingly.
July 23, 2004, 1:36 p.m. CST
I mean I've watched Jay Leno, David Letterman, and Conan O' Brien the past few nights and all I've seen is bad dialogue, acting, and action-scenes that look like a two year-old edited them. I mean I think even one of those super monkeys that Homer Simpson/Nasa profoundly loves could write a better script and make a better movie than this Pitof guy. And Halle is going to kill her career way worse than she did in "GOTHIKA." I don't care if she whines and complains and begs for a big part and more money in "X-MEN 3" if she's smart she'll stay with it just to save her black sexy ass, but knowing her she'll give it up for another poop-filled flop.
July 23, 2004, 2:06 p.m. CST
Good riddence dickhead...
July 23, 2004, 4:11 p.m. CST
by tango fett
Your post is hilarious. What with the kissing babies and the retarded puns (Aint it Tool? Ass.) You did make a good point though, out of ALL your posts. Bruce Campbell is cool, but some of you act as though he is Christ...or IS he?
July 23, 2004, 4:30 p.m. CST
This was a pleasent surprise to say the least. I will say that with anyone else but Halle Berry this would have been garbage, but I could have stared at her for another 2 hours. I think critics are being too harsh on it just to be like everyone else. This was a thousand times better than that Charlies Angels crap. Give it a chance.
July 23, 2004, 4:38 p.m. CST
His post has roots growing out of it. Go back to your studio and tell them to stop feeding us this shit and beg sweet baby Jesus for forgiveness for lying to all of us. FUCKING CORPORATE TOOL!
July 23, 2004, 4:39 p.m. CST
July 23, 2004, 7:07 p.m. CST
by Bill Maher
But at least you're enlightened enough to not argue that Charlize isn't black.
July 23, 2004, 7:12 p.m. CST
by Bill Maher
Of course my posts aren't funny, you racist Jew-hater who wants keep African-American actresses down! DO THINK I WOULD JOKE ABOUT IMPORTANT SUBJECTS LIKE HALLE BERRY'S KNOCKERS? I can't believe how racist some people are.
July 23, 2004, 7:20 p.m. CST
Sir Biatch surely makes a lot of noise without saying much of anything. I really wonder why I have been banned by Moriarty about a half dozen times, and yet this guy continues to badger people with no warnings or repercussions. Is he Moriarty portraying some sort of "urban" character? Is he just some twit who loves to hear himself typing? No offense, man, but you just need to learn to state your point and then back away. What you're doing borders on trolling, and I get the feeling that isn't really your intention.
July 23, 2004, 9:16 p.m. CST
My wife and I watched it and we liked it alot. Everything about this movie was very well done. In fact I have no complaints about it. I can see one thing that might be the reason many boys like Harry don't really like it... it is a GIRL superhero movie... thru and thru. The dialogue and action... which is very graceful and fluid and very very well done... is like a ballet. The outfit... it's not my idea of a good looking outfit... but then again I don't know shit about what women like to wear who are into weird fashion and that is definitly what this costume is about... some weird model fashion thing. And it works. I would like to see it be a little sleeker and well made... but that works too... considering she makes it herself. I won't even make an excuse for this movie. It was fun it was very well made with very great attention to details. The crowd we were with really responded well to it. This is just not gonna probably sell well to comic fans. But I am a comic fan and I think that this movie breathed more life into Catwoman then I ever saw in comics or tv or even in Batman Returns... if only because the whole movie focuses on Catwoman. I think Halle Berry owns Catwoman. But... most importantly for Batman lovers... this is not about Selina Kyle... not in the least... it's about a different Catwoman. If you watch this movie it will take you 10 minutes tops to realize that this is not only not a sucky movie but a really good 'superhero' summer movie. Think about this... there are different kinds of icecream out there... I like to eat lots of different kinds... if you want to enjoy movies... open your taste buds to different flavors. Blah blah blah.
July 23, 2004, 9:33 p.m. CST
People are angry because WB gutted the Catwoman character for the sake of ego. It's no different than the outcry over Peters, Abrams, and McG's proposed Superman script where Krypton didn't explode and Lex Luthor was General Zod in disguise or the current outrage over WB's plans to camp-up and dumb down Green Lantern for Jack Black. These people are sick of their favorite comics getting butchered by Hollywood hacks. Leave sexism and racism out of it. And Pud, I hate to break it to you, but Charlize Theron is WHITE. There are white people in Africa, you know. BATMAN's Michael Gough is one of them. Stop playing the race card and shut up.
July 23, 2004, 9:35 p.m. CST
I can tell you right now that it is not likely that they could be better right now. I am sure that people can spot the cg... but... honestly... it looked amazing to me. I am sure that in the imaginary world of movies that have no money, technology, or time limits that it could be better right now... but not in this reality. Anyway... once again I forgot what a little boy's club movie critics are. I really can't believe how they act so brave in their opinions until it hits the boundaries of what the group allows. It's cool though. It's just movies.
July 23, 2004, 9:45 p.m. CST
Oh come on... seriously. You guys are really angry over this movie? Have you seen it? I don't think so. You know... comics weren't made by saints. They were made by people. People who had to pay the rent. You guys take it WAY more seriously than you have a right to. That's right... I don't think that you have the right to take comics more seriously than the people who made them. And... as one who has drawn comics since I was 4 or 5... I am sorry... it's about fun and trying to get paid for it. So... don't give me this shit about hollywood raping anything. It's movies and comics. Not world hunger and war. I know it is just as important... but geesh... you all act like comics are sacred or something. The artists didn't think they were. In fact... I bet that they would sell every comic character they ever made for the right price. Man... at some point you just gotta be able to eat. Well... I am just ranting now. I know that you all want to believe that it is more important than that. That a comic is better than a hollywood movie. They aren't. After the 1,000,000th story or drawing... it's not just about the art anymore. Trust me... I know.
July 23, 2004, 11:06 p.m. CST
Thanks for the info Eye H8 U, didnt know I was. This site used to be the best. Im losing faith Harry. P.S. Try to make yourself look smarter by actually seeing a movie before bashing it.
July 24, 2004, 1:21 a.m. CST
by Logo Lou
I still recall the talkback experts tearing apart the obviously real first photos of Halle in costume. I mean, thousands of sentences and posts! It snapped their fragile little minds. Fucking idiots.
July 24, 2004, 1:25 a.m. CST
July 24, 2004, 1:43 a.m. CST
Okay maybe you're not a plant-- not something to be proud of. Coz that means you actually liked this egotistical, campy, poorly edited, adaptaion in name only piece of SHIT! And your support at the B.O. will only embolden Hollywood to make more such tripe! Why the fuck would anyone with half a brain would actually vote for this shit with their dollars? Oh well-- I hope that you enjoy GL when it hits. Next I hear they'll be making a musical version of The Dark Knight Returns starring Rip Taylor. I'm sure you'd be the first in line!
July 24, 2004, 1:48 a.m. CST
by Azlam Orlandu
...the ones who walked in without giving it a chance. I pity you. Spidey 2 was the most fun I've ever had in a movie theater ever. Think what you will of my opinion, I care not. At least not enough to justify my opininon to you wankers. -Az
July 24, 2004, 1:40 p.m. CST
Puzzling... because I can only assume it is *not* some imbecilic kid "gangsta" slang, where other negative terms such as "stupid" or "fat" have an opposite, positive meaning...?
July 24, 2004, 1:45 p.m. CST
So... you call everyone who likes Spider-Man 2 young virgin geeks (which is completely stupid and makes you look like a jackass), but Dodgeball was comic genius? Dodgeball is that type of film with over-the-top characters that's funny with a rowdy opening night audience. Watch it alone and the comedy and laughs will be completely gone (unless you're stoned). Spider-Man 2 was a very well made picture, too bad you couldn't enjoy it. But since you can't, why go on endlessly off-topic in every single talkback about it?
July 24, 2004, 1:47 p.m. CST
My favorite thing though, is Sir Biatch commenting that others don't have a life. Methinks his posts are self reflective. Looking at the sheer number of inane, rambling posts, I think Sir Biatch must refresh this page every two minutes hoping for a retort.
July 24, 2004, 2:22 p.m. CST
It's still a shit film though, at least SHOWGIRLS had camp and ISHTAR had Charles Grodin.
July 24, 2004, 2:24 p.m. CST
The fanboys were right about this film all along, ever since we heard PIVOT would direct. And the trailers with the milk and fish were terrible.
July 24, 2004, 2:40 p.m. CST
July 24, 2004, 10:22 p.m. CST
Berry's thrown in jail. It's a police station in New York City and it has exactly one frickin' jail cell. The cell's at the end of a long, dark hallway, with no no guard, no videocam, no other prisoners. Berry's all by herself, so she escapes by just slipping through the bars, which are about a foot apart. She's gone the entire night. Bratt catches up to her and says that nobody's noticed she's missing, so if she returns to her cell, she won't be in trouble. Apparently, the NYPD doesn't feed, exercise or check on prisoners--excuse me, I mean prisoner, since they don't seem to need more than one jail cell. Now either (1) the writers are the biggest idiots in the world, or (2) they think we are.
July 24, 2004, 11:52 p.m. CST
So far the worse movie of the year.Anyone who actually liked this movie should be locked in a cell and forced to watch Battlefield Earth over and over (although in their case it might not be a punishment and they might have to watch Gigli instead). Where do I start? The CGI seem to turn movie into animation everytime she makes a move. The background story ("Oh my God, a beauty cream that kills!!!") is funnier than Will Ferrel's Mogatu empire in Zoolander (and trust me, that wasn't their goal.) The audience laughed everytime she'd use the whip or hiss, the dialogues are lame, the entire movie is full of contradictions and the characters development fits a 12 years old and under target audience. Worst, Halle Berry's entire acting and behaviour in the suit is a complete rip-off of Aalyah's Queen Of The Damned's character when she enters the Vampire club, except SHE was good.(RIP) The only positives are the cinematography and the actress who plays Berry's girlfriend. Everything else is only worth one DVD viewing with a bunch of drunks who enjoy Berry's ass.And I don't even like it.Out.
July 25, 2004, 5:02 a.m. CST
July 25, 2004, 10:42 a.m. CST
considering this shit film cost over $100 million WB will be lucky if the film makes $50 mill. domestic. We told you guys you should have shelved it or sent it to video.
July 25, 2004, 5:15 p.m. CST
With the end of XENA, BUFFY, LA FEMME NIKITA, WITCHBLADE, KAREN SISCO--heck, even SHE-SPIES and RELIC HUNTER--I worry that execs will attribute poor ratings to the characters instead of the poor writing. DAREDEVIL, THE HULK and VAN HELSING all "under-performed", but no exec is going to say "Gosh, I guess male action heroes don't sell!" CHARLIE's ANGELS 2 and TOMB RAIDER 2 didn't tank because people wouldn't accept the female leads, they tanked because the writing sucked. And, no, FootFknMaster, I don't hate Halle Berry--I hate the script she was handed. Here's another "great" scene (spoiler): Her neighbor's playing loud music at 4am, so she breaks down his door, trashes the place and, while he's watching, steals his motorcycle, which she then uses to violate every traffic code in the book, finally parking it right in front of a jewelry store, which she then breaks into. Even if the neighbor didn't report the stolen bike, you'd think that 20 minutes of shotgun blasts from inside a jewelry store would attract the attention of one of NYC's 8,000,000 pedestrians or 39,000 cops. Anyway, I'm really hoping that ELEKTRA is a movie we can all support in a big way.
July 25, 2004, 9:16 p.m. CST
Had some time to waste so I listed some of Scatwoman's inconsistencies, here we go: #1: At the beginning, as Patience, she's shy, always afraid and trips on everything (she and Tobey should see the same doc...)But yet she jumps off her window on un unstable air conditioning unit for a cat that's unreachable anyway. #2: She is "reborn" by the same immortal cat (no idea how, THAT would have been interesting but they didn't bother to develop) and goes right back to the Company responsible for her murder. #3: Her girlfriend has to go to the hospital because of the "beauty cream that kills ", but neither Sharon Stone nor any other women who uses or stop using it... (Don
July 25, 2004, 10:56 p.m. CST
...everyone complaining about how bad 'Catwoman' was after seeing it is automatically suspicious to me for having seen it in the first place. If you review movies for a living (and not on message boards) things would make a little more sense, but the scores and scores of you that see it "so we don't have to" probably comprise a sizeable chunk of the film's B.O. (unless you all plexed, which is not only a dubious activity to commit in the name of the greater good, but something that probably didn't happen anyway). It's pretty evident that most of you wanted to hate it, too, so my advice would have been to heed Harry's warning and flush it out of the theaters as soon as possible.
July 25, 2004, 11:45 p.m. CST
Berry has turned into a stuckup fool. I totally liked her as Storm in X2 and she quits and jumps into crapwoman just because she thinks the x-producers are racially biased to "women of color" and give Wolverine the best parts. the oscar must have gone to her head. Now she feels she has to imitate every comic book movie success like Ben A-flako not to mention that horrid 007 mess. She's got to find great parts she had like in "Executive Decision" before it's too late.
July 26, 2004, 12:26 a.m. CST
To all the people in the cattle bandwagon: YES, I,ROBOT WAS BETTER THAN SPIDERMAN 2! Why? #1:Equal cinematography, more action scenes (and I, Robot action sequences are twice as fast and better edited than S2's. #2:Much, much better story, one of those that actually make you think, who gives a damn about Tobey's heart choices except People Magazine...and Smith's relationship with his Grandma actually works without being in your face twenty times... #3:Much, much better acting and dialogues. #4:Question, which of both will you play in your DVD Player without jumping directly to the action scenes because the rest is unbearable on a second viewing???
July 26, 2004, 7:50 a.m. CST
WB, you MUST listen to comics fans when you make a comic book movie. When ALL of us said that this would be a big flaming turd, you should have listened. This Catwoman is nothing like the comics, and that's why we didn't want to see it. It may have had 'elements' of the character, but you neglected everything about the books. Same with that horrible Superman script that was posted here. You'd better not screw up Superman, or you'll get the same treatment. You've been warned. We make or break box office, baby!
July 26, 2004, 10:30 a.m. CST
We saw the whole thing on TV the other night about stealth marketing. You're doing what I would deem a piss-poor job at it. Thanks for trying, though, but even paid hands can't polish a turd.--------------------My favorite quote from this talkback involved people "treating rottentomatoes like it's gospel." Like the site Rotten Tomatoes hands out judgement. In fact, it's useful BECAUSE it's a COMPILATION of opinions. That's why people reference it--it's not ONE person's opinion. Idiot.
July 26, 2004, 12:14 p.m. CST
Considering that the movie cost 100 million to make and 35 million to market this is a B.O. failure of epic proportions! WB will be lucky if the film nets 40 million domestically. Well they made their bed and now they have to lie in it. Hopefully the Hollywood idiots will realize that the was due to the horrible script and not because it had a woman superhero lead. I still want to see a Wonder Woman movie made as long as it's done right. (as little costume as possible- J/K)
July 26, 2004, 1:33 p.m. CST
hopefully they will learn. . hopefully
July 26, 2004, 2:34 p.m. CST
To tie in to what has been said on this, female action leads do indeed sell well when they are well written/acted. Sadly, I have only ever seen one good example: Sigorney Weaver in Alien and Aliens. Really, beyond that, there is no one that does a decent job. Why is that? Well, Weaver may have shown a little skin at the very end of Alien but that wasnt the thrust of her role. She played it straight and thats the key. Also, the role typically played well with her femininity without exploiting it. The whole motherhood thing didnt feel fake in Aliens and she managed to do Alien without being a typical female screamer or a dike. She wasnt a caricature - she was a believable person (like the XFiles characters - Scully). This sort of writing is rare in Hollywood though. Since everyone is going for the 13 year old horny boy ticket, little else is considered. Anywho, thats my .02
July 26, 2004, 3:10 p.m. CST
...never work. Others have tried with little success. The reason I supsected you of being on the payroll is because you're about the only person saying anything remotely positive about the film. Rottentomatoes has it as a 10% positive--and many of those "positives" are a real stretch--sort of like "Wasn't quite so bad" or "So awful it's a guilty pleasure" deal.------------------I have no problem with Halle Berry the actress. She's a hot number who deserves much better than this. Her performance in Monster's Ball was more than just the nudity and sex scene, which most people dismiss it as. However, THIS movie is a piece of shit. NOT faithful to source material, NOT appealing even from the trailers, and hey--Halle deserves better. Though if she's picking the roles, who's really to blame?
July 26, 2004, 6:04 p.m. CST
by Childe Roland
...to "Courtney Love. OJ Simpson. Kobe Bryant. Mike Tyson. And countless rappers who maintain their "street cred" by killing, or having killed, anyone who crosses them. THESE are celebrities worthy of your hate--or better, worthy of being ignored entirely...." was a stroke of genius. You've made my argument for me. Halle Berry is a largely talentless pretty person who has coasted on her looks and revealed her ugly side through her actions. Like those you mention, she should probably be in jail... not ruining comic book movies left and right. Her most memorable performances (pre this piece of shit) involved her being partially nude. Whoever said she should be doing porn hit the mark. I'd download that. But I don't want her inserting what passes for her artistic sensibilities into one more god damn comic book movie. She even brings down good ones (X-Men and X2) by her presence. You, oh Foot Raping Masturbator, aren't worthy of copping Samuel L.'s Pulp Fiction nickname. You have truly forgotten the face of your father.
July 26, 2004, 6:19 p.m. CST
I really hope they lose millions on this movie. Foreign dumbfucks might go see it and idiots might buy the DVD to jerk off too, but hopefully the moron filmmakers will get punished and lose money on this.
July 26, 2004, 6:22 p.m. CST
I've actually heard pretty good things about her performance in this movie. Several critics have gone so far as to call her (paraphrasing) the only bright spot in an otherwise dismal affair. Whether or not I think well of her character is irrelevant; she's an actress, and she does her job well. That said, this film isn't getting my $8.50 just because I'm experiencing a backlash of sorts from angry fanboys. In case it hasn't been mentioned before, a mobful of immature critics who indulge in bashing Berry aren't the only people who have hated 'Catwoman.' About 90% of the reviews on Rotten Tomatoes are negative, and I sincerely doubt that none of those 90% know what they're talking about. There are very, very few actors and actresses I would see a bad movie for, and Halle Berry isn't one of them.
July 26, 2004, 6:37 p.m. CST
What is wrong with Paul Anderson. That guy is a FUCKEN MORON!
July 27, 2004, 11:28 a.m. CST
by Pontsing Barset
....well, almost. You keep at it though little feller, you're making progress... I, um, er, suppose(?)
July 28, 2004, 3:35 a.m. CST
WB You managed to FUCK a potentially lucrative comic book franchise. Way to go idiots.
July 29, 2004, 4:27 p.m. CST
is a sort of medical euphemism for "orgasm." As in, "Harry masturbates to completion while looking at Vin Diesel's picture."
Aug. 26, 2004, 11:01 p.m. CST
I'm sat her watching 'Die another day' I realise I quite enjoy pats of this movie. and after watching the comentry, i realised what the big problem is..... Halle Berry! Yep she right royaly screws the Bond Franchise. Apparently they even re-wrote the end of the movie while on set to accomodate Halle's ego. She was never meant to go on the plane at the end, so the last half (the lame half) got fuked up by halle. And if Harry thinks she can act, tell the fucker to watch 'The Missing' and Cate Blanchett, or '12 Angry Men.' Then he should look me in the eye and say Halle Berry can act. Teh bitch is a leach on hollywood, and should be treated as such. And have you seen her website, what the fuck is wrong with her.
Oct. 30, 2005, 12:57 p.m. CST
Wanted to see Catwoman when it came out, but couldn't see spending $10 after the reviews were so bad. Where can I start, too much CGI, bad body makeup, a score trying to be HipHop cool when it needed a real score by a real composer! Catwoman came across as Spiderman with a sex change. My favourite Catwoman is still Michelle Pfeiffer (sp), but I liked Halle Berry as Catwoman, she just needed to make the character hers, which I felt she didn't. I was constantly distracted from the plot (I think it was a plot) by the soundtrack. I got the feeling that someone was trying to make this a Black film, or a Girl film with the soundtrack, instead it just sucked. I also think the film would have been better with Wire-Fu rather than CGI.