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Warners finally gets it right! SUPERMAN RETURNS! The Confirmed Details Spill To Earth!

Hey folks, Harry here... it is with a great deal of relief, joy and happiness that I can lay out what is happening with the Man of Steel.

As of Today, the deals for Bryan Singer, Michael Dougherty & Dan Harris have been closed to helm & write from scratch the new SUPERMAN film. This is the X2 team. The team that made, arguably the best of the Marvel Films (arguable only because Raimi nailed the hell out of SPIDER-MAN 2).

The J.J. Abrams script has been completely tossed out. Not of shred of it will remain. That McG ordered SUPERMAN cybersuit (Brilliant Ideas From Mr Hot Wheels, eh?) that Stan Winston's brilliant craftsmen were paid zillions to create is GONE! Today, long time sources like Frosty Skywalker, Sir Etch-A-Sketch and Sir Magnadoodle... those last two have been in the hallways of Warners for the better part of the past decade... and have access to every room. Frosty wrote to tell me that Bryan was signed, and that LOGAN'S RUN and X3 were now dead. While the first part of that is true... LOGAN'S RUN and X3 are not dead. The word from the halls of Warner Bros is that LOGAN'S RUN will be the film that Bryan Singer will make immediately after the Man Of Steel lands in theaters near us all. HOWEVER - if you begin talking to spies at Fox in Tom Rothman's offices and adjoining offices... X3 will be made after SUPERMAN by Singer, or Fox will leave him behind and continue forward with a new director. It'll be interesting to see how the cast will take to that... I know they all love Rothman so. He's a really cute dude, very lovable snugglebunny and obviously the reason that series has been the success that it has been. No, no, really. Ok, maybe that's a fib.

Details on SUPERMAN RETURNS, which is what Team Singer and WB seem to be calling it, are few and far between. But one source, that proved to me today to be quite close to some Warner exec that strikes an amazing resemblence to Lex Luthor himself, hinted to me that this film does not throw the Donner films away and allegedly somehow has something to do with their timeline and history!!! So... from the title, all we're left with is... he must have left, and now he's back. Does that refer to the child of Krypton's absence from theaters, Metropolis, our Planet or what? Will 3 & 4 be canon or merely tragedies? If he's returning, one can assume that he went somewhere, and now feels the need to be back... but why? Where'd he go? Why's he back? I can say though... SUPERMAN RETURNS will not be an Origin Story. We're not going to walk through all that molasses for the umpteenth time, waiting for Kal-El to do something or become Superman again!

The confirmed details are: Bryan Singer, Michael Dougherty & Dan Harris are on board. It will not be an origin story. And something regarding the Christopher Reeve films and that universe has something to do with this. (though that last one is a shady detail... My source heard that, but when they did... there was no elaboration for the how, what, when, where or why of it.)

I assure you... I'm on this case like Comet, the super-horse! That's right, I'm your super-stud!

While Warners continues to be the craziest most bi-polar studio on planet Earth... It seems they're nailing BATMAN BEGINS... and they finally have a team that I can get enthusiastically pumped up about. Now if only GREEN LANTERN was being done justice the way New Line proposed to Warners in a faithful 3 film Green Lantern Corps super epic. But, a comedic riff by Jack Black... that's just as good right? Sigh. No matter, the team behind X2 will once again have all of us believing that a man can fly!

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  • July 17, 2004, 4:42 a.m. CST

    Holy Shit!

    by Bwoos Lee

    Holy Shit! Although i was hopin maybe to see a cool version of his origin, i'm sure they could have made that look purty sweet...

  • July 17, 2004, 4:42 a.m. CST

    I'll believe this when it's reported in the trades. Sorry.

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Sounds too fantastic to be true. "Superman Returns"? Lame title, even if it's a working one.

  • July 17, 2004, 4:44 a.m. CST

    You're quite excited by this aren't you Harry?

    by Tom Whitaker

    Good-o. First.

  • July 17, 2004, 5:06 a.m. CST


    by 007-11

    Who would of thought? This is actually going to happen, and it has an excellent chance of being good! Oh Bryan Singer, I don't want to tell you how to live your life, but "Logan's Run" has already been made if you know what i'm saying.

  • July 17, 2004, 5:06 a.m. CST

    I think the X-Men 1 & 2 have been the best of the Marvel Films,

    by Declan_Swartz

  • July 17, 2004, 5:07 a.m. CST

    Singer is ok, but he doesn't impress me enough where he'll make

    by The Founder

    Singer a good director for dramas and probably suspense, but he lacks imagination and visual style for fantasy and sci-fi. Both of the X films were good, not great, but the awe factor wasn't in nether of them. FOX better get a quality director for Xmen. Their's no way Singer will be done with Superman to start up on X3 for it's supposed May 2006 release date. Well if Fox goes with another director, they better get someone good. Cameron anyone. B!tch and moan about cameron all you want, but he'd make a d@mn good Xmen film, and we'll get the action and visuals we deserve, and most importanly he can't alter much, because the first 2 already set up the movie universe, and who the characters are.

  • July 17, 2004, 5:13 a.m. CST

    Origin Stories

    by -=Shin=-

    I can't argue with the idea of avoiding the origin story. McG made a comment about Superman being everything American. Part of the reason for that is Donner's on film with it's beinnings in a Smallville designed after Norman Rockwell paintings. There's not a way to top the original's introduction and it would be ridiculous to try. It's in the background of everyone's minds. Even John Williams' March would be difficult to top. I don't think WIlliams could out-do his original either. I'm glad they're showing respect to the original, but making something knew. Rock on!

  • July 17, 2004, 5:16 a.m. CST

    Singer has a hard time directing epic

    by IndustryKiller

    While the X-Men films get an awful lot right they are scaled waaaaay too far back to do the x-men real justice. The lame conclusions to both x-films prove that. Hopefully he can do better here.

  • July 17, 2004, 5:20 a.m. CST

    Thank god.

    by onetrueking

    Here's to real directors taking their source material seriously. Bryan Singer can have my first born if he nails thing. Amazing. I can't believe they gave it to someone who actually cares to do a good job for the fans. Superman's going to make a bazillion dollars no matter who they put on the job. I'm just glad they put someone who's proven his metal. Remember when we were all worried than Xmen 1 was going to suck... hehehe... and now we're all praising the lord that Singer's on the case.

  • July 17, 2004, 5:20 a.m. CST

    GOOD! Now Singer can leave X-Men alone.

    by pip1345

    The two X-Men films weren't bad (actually, the first one was pretty close), but they weren't good either. Hopefully, they'll hire someone with a little more talent, color, flare, and knowledge of the comic for the third one. I'm not going to say Sam Raimi made PERFECT Spider-Man films (he got a lot closer with the second one), but what he got right he got right because of his knowledge of Spider-Man...oh yeah, and because of those other things I mentioned. Spider-Man 2 was everything the X-Men films weren't. The X-Men films just felt...lifeless. Hugh Jackman was great, though.

  • July 17, 2004, 5:22 a.m. CST

    The Jack Black thing just can't happen.

    by IndustryKiller

    The returns for a zany jack black comedy would be marginal at best. If they did a straight Green Lantern they could potentially make 100's of millions and tons more off liscensing. WB wouldn't give all that money up.

  • July 17, 2004, 5:33 a.m. CST

    Clueless, unimaginative Warners

    by Desk

    Terrific news that Singer and co. are to take charge of the Man of Steel. They've proven that they know how to treat comic book adaptations with respect and intelligence, remaining faithful to the source material. I'm sure that this post will be followed by a legion praising this move. HOWEVER, isn't it terribly sad that despite all its power and resources the only way Warner Bros. could get this project sorted was by stealing away a rival superhero franchise's creative team? To me this just affirms my suspicions that this studio doesn't have a single clue how to handle its rich mountain of DC Comics properties unless someone comes in and is able to take a strong, unfettered lead (ie Nolan), or it blindly stumbles after the team behind another studio's successes (X-Men). And will there be another Tom DeSanto on Superman? A comic fan who holds the team true to the mythos. Still, I supposed I shouldn't be so churlish about such great news. Here's just hoping that to get a decent Superman movie we don't have to sacrifice another thriving superhero series - X-Men.

  • July 17, 2004, 5:34 a.m. CST

    Close the door on the way out McG

    by winstonrifles

    Well this up and down aint it. Loved X2 and so damn happy. Come on people McG, Michael Bay? We should count ourselves damn lucky. We escaped MTV Superman and patriotic to the point of sickening $800M explosions Superman. Superman Returns? Where's he been. -----------------------------

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  • July 17, 2004, 5:40 a.m. CST

    huge defection!

    by speed

    the money they must be throwing at singer and co. gotta be bigger than all the steriod fuelled thighs of the american athletics team headed for athens. probably going to allow singer to retire for life a few times over. not many people complained too much about the xmen films. the first was a bit small but the 2nd really had chops and went for it. i thought the ending for the second was well done without going over the top. endings in films of late have become too big and ridiculous. singer and his team are the perfect choice. nobody is ever going to get the film they want, but at least with singer and crew we know they are going to try.

  • July 17, 2004, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Usual Suspect

    by Ra Ra Rasputin

    Fantastic if this pans out singer has excellent taste and wont over boil the egg on this. Shame about Logans run that to me is ripe for remaking it has all the intrigue and attention to detail im sure synger would thrive with the subject matter involved in the story.However superman is a film that will benefit from singers restrained approach to effects. His choices when casting is also important to synger picks out actors not stars (McKellen Apt pupil).Fingers crossed bring on son of ZOD.

  • July 17, 2004, 5:43 a.m. CST

    GREAT!! Now can we CAVIEZEL as SUPERMAN please???? please???

    by DarthBakpao

    Get CAVIEZEL now! wow, finally some GOOD news from WB. THANK YOU!!! YOU'RE DEAF AFTER ALL! now if only that Green Lantern project was just hoax...

  • July 17, 2004, 5:45 a.m. CST

    Singer for X-Men3 and another director for S!

    by CurryIce

    Singer is a great director BUT he has to do X-Men 3 NOW and WB should choose another director for Superman, PLEASE!

  • July 17, 2004, 5:49 a.m. CST

    i meant "you're NOT deaf after all.."

    by DarthBakpao

    i was too excited, sorry .... wow!

  • July 17, 2004, 6 a.m. CST

    On reflection... stick with X-Men, Singer.

    by Desk

    I guess I was initially overcome with relief and joy that a far better director than Ratner on McG had taken charge of this project, but now, on reflection, I believe Singer shouldn't do this. I'd far rather have the guarantee of a terrific X-Men 3 than the remote possibility of a decent WB Superman. How many directors has Warner's project gone through now? 3? Burton, Ratner and McG? Come next May, when Singer should be filming X3, he might still be at the stage of trying to explain to the Special Ed studio that Superman is an alien who can fly. Then ultimately there'll be reports that Singer has left the project, hotly denied by Warners, only to be followed by official confirmation a week later, and Warners won't only have botched up their own superhero properties, they'll have botched Fox's, too. Let Warners dig its own way out of this mess, and find their own, decent directors who can produce faithful, intelligent comic adaptations in the spirit of X-Men and Spidey - surely in the whole of Hollywood there must be more out there? Stick with X-Men, Singer.

  • July 17, 2004, 6:04 a.m. CST

    It's about time something good came out of this mess.

    by Psyclops

    Bryan is a talented guy, I have as much faith in him as I do Christopher Nolan. I think this team can do some magnificent work as long as the studio can keep their hands off the project. Give them the budget, give them the cast they want and let them go to town!

  • July 17, 2004, 6:04 a.m. CST

    So in a mere 5 years Batman can be completely tossed out and re-

    by TheGinger Twit

    Fuck that, just re-make Donners origin film, only with new krypton, new ship, new galactic traversing, and new loise lane rescue and new heroic superman saves the planet from Lex Luthor's evil entraponourial plan.

  • July 17, 2004, 6:09 a.m. CST

    The Fate of 'X3'

    by Ribbons

    I would really love to see Singer involved with a sequel to 'X2,' and not just in the capacity of an executive producer. He's a creative guy and he has already expressed preliminary ideas with what he'd do for a sequel. I understand that money keeps the cogs twirling in the Hollywood Dream Factory, but I'd push back the release date and wait for Singer to get back onboard if it's at all possible. As for this news...well it thrills me to no end. Consider, folks, that Brett Ratner and McG were the rotating heads that were (reportedly) attached to this property for the longest time. It's also pretty significant that they've decided not to reboot Superman's origin story. Being the first major comic book hero from Marvel and DC to develop into a franchise, and the fourth since Batman, Fantastic Four and The Punisher to be revisited by a different set of filmmakers, it's also the first trying to make itself over without wiping the slate entirely clean.

  • July 17, 2004, 6:39 a.m. CST

    Why settle for 'pretty good' Superman?

    by TheFastTheFurion

    Because with Singer that's all you're going to get. Rest assured, Singer won't make a bomb like McG or Ratner would, but it'll be a safe lil Supes flick. Look, Singer is never going to deliver an incredible film, X2 was very good, but not mind blowing. I respect WB for getting a respectable guy, they could certainly do alot worse, but why not take a little risk? Find someone fresh and stylish and ambitious and aggressive. Like choosing Ang Lee for Hulk, get someone we wouldn't expect. Because like it or not, Singer's been here before, he'll get bored with the same type of flick and just go through the motions. After 2 flicks, Singer's heart is with Xmen, how could he possibly be as passionate about Superman?

  • July 17, 2004, 6:51 a.m. CST

    bitch and moan.

    by the_dark_knight

    I'm sorry but all you people do is bitch and moan, McG is a prick but Singer is too boring. get a grip the films got a director who will do the film justice and has no one ever noticed that Donner's superman was kinda small scale too. p.s if this is a hoax Richard Kelly could do a cool Supes film.

  • July 17, 2004, 6:58 a.m. CST

    So who to direct the next X Film? Fans I sumbit for your Approva

    by TempleMount

    However to be honest I'd have thought Joss Whedon could be the man to make Superman. As for what Joss could bring X3 - How about Dazzler - played by SMG? Certainly a better bet that awful idea of Jessica Simpson. Meanwhile over in Superman world... Someone give JMS a shout to have a shot at the script. And while I'm here. I can actually see how a Jack Black GL film might work. Imagine it's when Hal is called away and Guy Gardiner is plucked out of obsurity to handle the ring - Coz he's too layed back to be scared. You have an older Alan Scott kicking around to "teach" the slacker how to be a GL - plenty of laugh a minute material there. But still have Hal and the rest of the Corps part of the set up to serious it up at the end. However despite all this FF as a comedy ? WTF ?

  • July 17, 2004, 6:59 a.m. CST

    by Darth Yddet

    Hopefully this amazing news marks the end of a beyond-troubled road...

  • July 17, 2004, 7:12 a.m. CST

    'Get someone like they did with Ang Lee for Hulk' ... Yeah, and

    by TheGinger Twit

  • July 17, 2004, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Bryan Singer, Mike Dougherty and Dan Harris are perfect for this

    by brokentusk

    'X3' was going to be huge, even bigger than 'X2'! You can tell that they were building up to something massive... now we have to wait years to find out what. That's just not cool. Also, I don't think Fox should hand over the franchise to another director. Singer was building up to his best film in 'X3' and I'd hate him to lose his control on the series. I actually think they SHOULD do an origin story for the first 'Superman' film. Yes it's been done before in Donner's first film, but if Warner Bros. want to make a trilogy of these new films then they should start at the beginning. Also, I'd love to see an origins story by Bryan Singer... that would ruleage. At least Warners did something right for a change. I think we owe them a round of applause... or a round of bullets... depending on how you feel about this.

  • July 17, 2004, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Ok, and what about the music? Superman has its amazing trademark

    by Lord_Soth

  • July 17, 2004, 7:24 a.m. CST

    Great Caesar's Ghost!

    by Evil Chicken

    Having the X2 team on board is the best news I

  • July 17, 2004, 7:26 a.m. CST

    F**K Superman.

    by RedFive

    Harry your the only one excited about this. Superman is dead and has been for years. Bryan singer and the X2 Crew leaving X3 is awful,even if it is for Superman. WB is the wrost movie studio on the planet,the only thing they got going for them is Harry Potter *thanks to the 3rd installment*. Now there gonna start back up with superman by hiring Bryan singer.F*CK WBs and Batman Begins as well.

  • July 17, 2004, 7:27 a.m. CST

    The X films...

    by Azlam Orlandu

    I've never understood the extremely hi-praise for the X films. Granted they do bring comic books to a new dramatic height, but at the same time I always fealt that they were very very dry compared to what my expectations of exactly what the X-Men are. X-Men 2 was a step up, but in the end I don't feel that sense of longing to see that sequel the way I did after seeing the two Spiderman films, and I love X-Men I have hundreds of issues same as Spiderman, in fact I'm more fond of the X-Books than I am of Spidey overall. Granted the X films had great casting, save for Halley Berry as Storm (Angela Bassett (sp)) would have been an inspired choice who would have actually made a flesh and blood character out of Storm. I'm not a big fan of Jackman, he did a commendable job as Wolverine, but my interest in him as an actor stops there (Az is wishing that Mortensen had been Van Helsing and Jackman was in Hidalgo). Anna Paquin as Rogue is great, I can't stop looking at her ass, so that's good enough for me. Scot, Gene, Charles, and Magnus were dead on great choices for their roles though. In the same respect I thought that Spiderman had questionable casting save for Tobey as Parker (doesn't get more perfect than that) but at the same time I didn't dwell on the things I didn't like about Spiderman because it was so damn entertaining and Raimi proved that anything that I didn't like about the first one was a necessity to set up the second which turned out so beautifully entertaining to the point of knocking Star Wars and LOTR off the top of my favorite films lists (A New Hope has never been faded, but now it seems that I have been proven wrong). Hell I even like Burton's Batman and a especially the first to Superman flicks a million times better than the X-flicks, here's hoping that my issues with X-Men one and two are not attributed to Bryan Singer, I do hope that he means well, but if Superman ends up anything like the X-films then I'm going to be a tad dissapointed. Here's hoping that Superman Returns in full fashion and that Singer takes a cue from Donner and Raimi. Pardon any confusion in my writing, it's 4:30 am and I just got off of SWG for the night, I'm perhaps not my usual self. It is refreshing to write a post here without having to talk shit about anyone that I hate here though. Jk. Sure. - Az

  • July 17, 2004, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Great news for Supes!

    by Wormie

    If this story is true, it's great news. Superman has the potential to be much bigger than a third X-Men movie could be - in fact, a kickass Superman flick could be even bigger than Spider-Man 2. Singer is a good choice, but let's not get too excited until this sucker actually starts shooting. This almost makes up for the insane notion of Jack Black as Green Lantern. What is it with Warners and their handling of the DC characters? On the one hand, we have the excellent Justice League animated series, on the other, the dire Teen Titans. On the one hand, the lame-looking "Catwoman" with Halle Berry, on the other, the very promising Batman Begins.

  • July 17, 2004, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Uh, Harry -- if you're so close to so many WB insiders...

    by Johnny Ahab

    ...why don't you steer their eyeballs to the Jack Black/GL boards and MAKE THESE STUPID FUCKERS SEE just how annoyed the fans are with the zany "Mask" approach??

  • July 17, 2004, 8:22 a.m. CST

    GREAT news!

    by Spacesheik

    Bullshit Abrams script is out, origin story is out, a continuation of the Donner universe!! Yes, that could mean JOHN WILLIAMS might be using the same score for this, the Fortress of Solitutde and all the old familiars are back! Bryan Singer excellent! Make Jim Cazievel play SUPERMAN! This could fucking work folks, now if only they get the new script right!

  • July 17, 2004, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Fuck it, I'll take him! Who are they going to get that's better

    by Darksider

    And that's what's needed.

  • July 17, 2004, 8:48 a.m. CST

    This is what we've been waiting for

    by Andy Dufresne

    A master story teller to tell a masterful story. The Superman legend is so famous that it stands comparison with greek legend. Finally they've booted out the flashy MTV directors (Bay, McG) and brought in a brilliant film make with the geek love of material required. You had to be worried that D.C were fighting back with Catwoman but finally they are looking at the Marvel success (literally) and bringing in the man that made Super Hero movies acceptable again, nay cool even when we were all scarred by Schumacher and Batman and Robin. I love this news and cannot wait for what they pull out.

  • July 17, 2004, 8:48 a.m. CST

    I don't trust Warners

    by lurk3001

    I just don't. I dunno I'm kinda glad that they're taking Superman seriously...but at what cost? I really, really liked where the X-Men movies were going. Could Tom Santos maybe take over the directing chores on X3? I just have the feeling that Warners is gonna fuck this up again and not only ruin Superman but also ruin X-Men (Like another TB said up thread)

  • July 17, 2004, 8:59 a.m. CST


    by carouselambra

    while this would normally make me very happy, not at the cost of X3. why would singer defect? now if he's going to do both superman and X3, great! though kind of surprising that he'd repeat himself with a new superhero series.

  • July 17, 2004, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Kal disappears for decades

    by ManosTHOF

    And returns to see what the world is like now. Could be something really special.

  • July 17, 2004, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Supah Man

    by Mafu

    I don't know how to feel about this news. In all honesty, I'm one of the people who feels that nobody should make another Superman film. To me, it seems like Brian Singer's talent is wasted on a project like this, especially after I heard he was going to direct an updated, beefier version of "Logan's Run." I sort of yawn when I think about Singer, McG, or whoever it'll be next week, making this movie. Let's see... when Singer breaks his contract and sites "creative differences" with the company to get out of making the film, I wonder who'll be directing it then?

  • July 17, 2004, 9:14 a.m. CST

    How many remember when Warners had Jim Carrey playing Brainiac,

    by CKnightShift


  • July 17, 2004, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Do X-Men 3 first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by tile_mcgillus

    I think that this is great news for Supes but i want X-Men 3 first. Complete the trilogy you started then go on to do a fanastic version of Superman. You already have the cast agreeing to do it because Singer WAS directing. THANK GOD McG, JJ Abrams and their shitfest is DEAD!

  • July 17, 2004, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Definitely good news. Great news in fact! But something that con

    by obi12kenobi

    ...the one-on-one fight scenes in the Xmen films weren't too great. General action sequences like the Nightcrawler opener were incredible but look at the fights between Wolverine and Sabretooth/Deathstrike. They were quite weak. The cause/effect system wasn't implemented very well. Just a lot of quick edits with people jumping and spinning and flying backward in recoil. Watch it again and you'll see what I mean. There's nothing to sink your teeth into. I'm not slagging him off but I just think he needs work in this area.

  • July 17, 2004, 9:54 a.m. CST

    fuck that

    by Ryalto 3.0

    I'd way rather see Singer's X3 than some lame ass retread of the most boring comic book character ever.

  • July 17, 2004, 9:59 a.m. CST

    second the Whedon suggestion

    by Ryalto 3.0

    if Singer wants to take a step back into the ultra-lame superman series, then who better than Joss to do X3? After the success of Serenity, he's the perfect choice for Fox, and he knows how to deliver on epic story-lines like Phoenix.

  • July 17, 2004, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Sorry, I'm a bigger fan of the X-MEN comics than SUPERMAN

    by IAmLegolas

    And if this lastest news is true, and if it means Singer being taken off X-MEN 3 (i.e. not having the right people continuing or finishing off the Dark Phoenix story thread properly) I'll be PISSED OFF !!!!

  • July 17, 2004, 10:24 a.m. CST

    How about this director for X3?

    by Logan-X

    Let's be honest, the only thing that Singer really brought to the X-Men movies, aside from his "actor's director" style, is what he contributed to the story. As long as he's on board to write, X3 should rock even harder than X2, which, incidentally, isn't "arguably" the best Marvel movie, it flat out IS the best Marvel movie because I was so bored after the first hour of Spider-Man 2 that I was praying Doc Ock would finish off that whiny bitch Parker. Anyway, so Singer is going to direct Superman, well, why not get the man who wanted to bring X-Men to the screen 15 years ago and has already directed Superman?: Richard Donner. It makes sense, as he and his wife's production compnay is in charge of the X franchise. This is what's going to happen. Singer, Dougherty, Harris, and hopefully Hayter (because if you watch X2 with the commentary, he had some cool ideas that were the groundwork for X2) will write the thing, Tom DeSanto back in a Producer role, and Donner directing. As long as the story continues off of X2, it will be hard to screw it up (knocking on wood now).

  • July 17, 2004, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Smallville's storyline?

    by Oknight

  • July 17, 2004, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Smallville's storyline?

    by Oknight

    Very cool news. What I wonder is: since Smallville has been warping itself to line up with the Abrams concept-- how are they going to adapt to that storyline being tossed out?

  • July 17, 2004, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Jill Small Is a Favorite to LOIS LANE

    by stlfilmwire

    From many folks who met her at Sundance, and her performances in Dysenchanted, Grace, and Studio 666, Jill Small has emerged as a popular choice to be Lois Lane. She has that simple beauty and yet that hard edged journalist fire about her that really makes her a contender. She burst onto the scene just like a year or two ago and found herself in four prominent roles.

  • July 17, 2004, 10:55 a.m. CST


    by Waspo

    Well, the plot has just thickened. I'm waiting to see what Fox and Marvel do in return. Spider-Man 2 is already the best Superhero movie ever, and X2 wasn't bad either. I wonder what Singer's going to do with Superman, but more important what's going to happen to X-Men now?

  • July 17, 2004, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Forget BS for X3, here is who I would pick!

    by kdoc13

    I actually liked both X-Men flicks. Didn't really care for Spiderman 1, hated the Hulk, and as a fan of Daredevil kind of dug it, and absolutely fearing what is going to happen to Fantastic 4. I also read Grean Lantern, and would never see the flick if it were a Jack Black "comedy". As for X-3, I would get John Woo to direct, and drop the dark Phoenix saga. All Sentinals, all asskicking all the time, except for a few white doves flying around...

  • July 17, 2004, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Focus of Film: Jimmy Olson

    by MrStinger

    So will we finally find out that Jimmy Olson's gay? Will there be a storyline that reveals what he does with young interns in the darkroom?

  • July 17, 2004, 11:13 a.m. CST

    The only way the idiots at WB could get this project started was

    by FrankDrebin

    Since X3's already gearing up for a Vancouver shoot, and they have schedule commitments from the actors, I would be surprised if Singer is available. Anyway, once Singer hears all the demands/conditions/"ideas" the WB execs have, he'll think twice about bailing on X3.

  • July 17, 2004, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Not so fast....! Remember the GIANT SPIDERS!?!?!?!?!?!

    by gakchat

    Before everybody breaks out the champagne, isn't Jon Peters still involved with Superman? And who do you think is going to exert more control over the production, him or Singer? We got a catfight on the horizon...

  • July 17, 2004, 11:27 a.m. CST


    by Trevor Goodchild

    Good news and bad. I really wanted to see Beast (my favourite X) on celluloid. Joaquin Phoenix or Oliver Platt.

  • July 17, 2004, 11:34 a.m. CST

    A Sequel to the Salkind series? Yeah, cool I suppose but I miss

    by Regicidal_Maniac

    I really do. Regardless of what the haters say about him, McG is 'tomorrow', for better or worse. I wanted to see a Superman film that represented the Man Of Tomorrow in the most 'tomorrowy' style around. I'm sure Singer will deliver a film that's better than good but a new origin IS called for even if it's just a newly filmed 'recap'.

  • July 17, 2004, 11:38 a.m. CST

    The action in the X films is fucking boring...

    by cockknocker

    I thought the first one wasn't bad, kinda enjoyed the story but I expected a lot more from the second. We still havent seen a decent Wolverine action scene. The action in both films sucked, aside from maybe the x2 opener with nightcrawler. Singer doesn't get me excited anymore, I have no interest in seeing a Superman movie with dull action scenes.

  • July 17, 2004, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Wow, that gobshite Mark Millar might actually have been right!

    by SoupDragon

    After years of bullshitting his readers that he knows whats going on behind the scenes with movies something he stated might actually pan out! unless its just coincidence...

  • July 17, 2004, 11:42 a.m. CST

    This is awful news.

    by Fantomex

    Either we get a new director for X3 or the movie doesn't come out until I'm in the old folks home.

  • July 17, 2004, 11:48 a.m. CST


    by Wydok

    OK, in the grand scheme of things, the creative team behind a movie ranks #4512 in importance. BUT, I am still very happy about this. McG would have sucked, Michale Bay would have been OK, but Bryan Singer will do Superman justice. And with the Abrams script gone, it's all good.

  • July 17, 2004, 11:56 a.m. CST

    I want X3!

    by Voltron Lions

    Alright, all you fucking DC dipshits were funny when you just sat there,worrying about your stupid characters and if they would ever get any good movies, but now you're causing trouble.Inflicting Jack Black Lantern upon us and possibly fucking up the X-Men movies? You bastards need to be hunted down and shot. Shot repeatedly.

  • July 17, 2004, 12:08 p.m. CST

    X3 = Joss Whedon!!

    by christonomist

    If you hate him, consider your objections noted. For everybody else....THINK ABOUT IT: The dude is free from his TV ties now, he's full-time directing/screenwriting for film, he's been an X-fan for decades, HE WROTE A LATER DRAFT FOR THE ORIGINAL XMEN THAT SINGER LOVED (time/budget constraints just prevented incorporating it), AND MARVEL RECENTLY HANDED HIM WRITING RESPONSIBILITIES ON A WHOLE LINE OF XMEN COMICS (and a lot of people like his work there). He's perfect! He'd nail the Phoenix Saga. This is the dude who begged Singer/DeSanto on his way out of X1 not to mess it up by dropping a Danger Room scene...he cares about the mythology deeply, and he'll fight for it. Marvel obviously trusts him with the material. And if anyone is curious if he's got the directing chops, just watch the Buffy eps "The Body", "Hush", or "Restless", or the Angel series pilot or finale. I'm not demeaning Singer or anything, X1 and 2 are two of my favorite films; but if he bolts, this would be ideal. Get the groundswell and petitions going now! Avi would do it!

  • July 17, 2004, 12:16 p.m. CST


    by andenu

    Man it's annoying to think of Singer going to the other side. Finish what you started first, dude! Fuck him, I hope they get someone else for X3 and it improbably tops X2. This is kinda like if Pedro Martinez went to pitch for the Yankees, and I'm not a Red Sox fan. Boo! Hiss!

  • July 17, 2004, 12:23 p.m. CST

    R.C.'s opinion: Anything is preferable to McG or Brett Ratner

    by R.C. the "Wise"

    Hopefully, the Singer team will put more elaborate action scenes in this film than what were in the previous X-men films. Casting suggestions: Jim Caviezel, Chris Klein, Brad Pitt or the dude from Las Vegas as Supes. Lucy Lui as Lois Lane, Adam Brody as Jimmy Olsen, Tom Skeritt as Perry, and Bruce Willus or the dude from Titanic as Lex Luthor.

  • July 17, 2004, 12:26 p.m. CST

    R.C.'s additional note: The only thing that the Singer squad sh

    by R.C. the "Wise"


  • July 17, 2004, 12:36 p.m. CST


    by OgieOglethorpe

    X3 (and possibly 4) need Singer more than Superman does. Wait... What's that sound? (splash... splash..) Oh.. That must be the sound of the x-men principle actors jumping ship! (along with the continuity). I'd really hate to see X-men go the way of the Batman series.. but if some jerkoff picks up & tries to do Phoenix/Dark Phoenix at this point, (necessarily putting his own creative stamp on it & completely changing the tone of the films), that's exactly where it's headed. BOOOOO! This sucks red-assed-monkey ass.

  • July 17, 2004, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Sounds like Bullshit

    by AlwaysThere

    Oh, thats right, this is AICN

  • July 17, 2004, 12:44 p.m. CST


    by stlfilmwire

    Jim Caviezel as Supes, Jill Small as Lois, Seth Green as Jimmy Olson, Val Kilmer as Lex Luthor, Lenny Rose as Perry White

  • "X2" feels WAY too "Star Trek" for me: Too many characters, too didactic, too fucking "comic book" geeky, frankly. The "X Men" films are simply cold-blooded geek-catnip product, and damn near worthless as actual films.

  • July 17, 2004, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Get ready for "Superman as Gay Subtext"

    by Total Geekazoid

    (Not that there's anything wrong with that...)

  • July 17, 2004, 1:22 p.m. CST

    where's the drama?

    by Mr Chuff

    Just a thought but if Superman is so powerful, wheres the drama? Apart from a lump of kryptonite what possible harm can come to him?

  • July 17, 2004, 1:23 p.m. CST

    REMEMBER ... in "ATTACK OF THE CLONES" ... Christopher Lee had h

    by JDanielP

  • July 17, 2004, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Not Singer!

    by Devilinmoonlight

    You know, Brain Singer did a nice job with the X-men movies, but he is NOT the guy who should be making superman returns. I say this because I know the singer will give superman the classic "i'm a big boyscout that does a bunch of cool fighting moves" attitude and I'm sick of that! What this film needs is a director who will focus less on special effects and more on the emotional aspect of Clark Kent's life. I also think thats why James Caziel would have been a very smart pic for the lead role.

  • July 17, 2004, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Mr. Chuff

    by Oknight

    When Superman is done RIGHT (which is very rarely), as always the drama comes from what he CAN'T do (which takes some thought -- seriously, thought-- about what he IS doing). If you make Superman magically able to do anything (ie: sort a jar of jellybeans with his 'super breath' or squeeze a lump of coal into a diamond) the character is boring and pointless. Which is why you need clearly defined rules -- like with Vampires -- the characters work when they have rules to work within.

  • July 17, 2004, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Exactly why I hate posting in these talkbacks...

    by TheFastTheFurion

    Some fanboy always takes one line, out of context, quotes it, then gives his 2 cents about why the previous poster is an idiot.

  • July 17, 2004, 2:27 p.m. CST

    I Can't Wait To See This Movie....

    by Jervis Tetch

    ...when it comes out in 2035, directed by James Cameron, Jr.

  • July 17, 2004, 2:31 p.m. CST

    fan oboy what a cheese

    by sculary

    u fan boyze love alot of drama....over analizing the shit out of bull-shit

  • July 17, 2004, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Super Idea

    by sculary

    Superman Vs The Six Flag Old Guy...............Supes tears the dudes head off and punts like he did in in the 1st flick..

  • July 17, 2004, 2:59 p.m. CST

    F-that flag waving blue boyscout bullshit, I wants me angsty and

    by Tall_Boy

    Superman is nowhere near as good for dramatic potential as the X-Men movies. He's dull. I think this crew is a good choice, but I'd 100% much much MUCH rather see them do more X-Men movies. Or maybe actually start writing for Ultimate X-Men that is. . .

  • July 17, 2004, 3:05 p.m. CST


    by PogoOfGo

  • July 17, 2004, 3:10 p.m. CST

    This is horrible....

    by Edward_nygma

    ... some please prove to me that Singer is already signed to X3 cos i can't believe he's going to bail now and leave it. He was building things up so brilliantly i couldn't wait to see him kick ass with X3 or the possible back-to-back X3/X4. I so don't want to see it left to someone else, someone who will be less capable, less willing to pick up the continuing story strands and who the cast will be less willing to return to their roles for. Don't do it Singer! stay where u are! i feel sick.

  • July 17, 2004, 3:12 p.m. CST

    euh right so anyway, on "RETURNS"

    by PogoOfGo

    Here's another speculation for the stack... Hey Mr. Chuff, this might answer your post too. The new title might be revealing Singer wants to adapt the ultra-popular "Death of/World Without A/Return of Superman" story arc from the nineties. Redfive might have called it - *SPOILER* in the ROS book Superman gets his ass handed to him, fighting to his last living breath to stop the alien berserker Doomsday. In Supes' wake, four new super-beings rise and contend for the cape and shield. The 'Steel' character bastardized by Shaquille O'Neal in 1997 was originally one of the four heroes, and experienced a popular run though I hear they've recently killed him in the comics. (No word on four O'Neal impersonator story arcs yet.) I recently read the RoS anthology, and if written well it could make a nice translation to the big screen. There's a little too much goofy alien/techno stuff (especially for a Singer universe product) but plenty of character clashing to play with. Sorry about the empty post fluke! -Pogo

  • July 17, 2004, 3:13 p.m. CST

    wow this bbs system really kills paragraphs huh (nt)

    by PogoOfGo

  • July 17, 2004, 3:18 p.m. CST

    OMG this is the WORST news since 9/11

    by acebandage

    Don't get me wrong, I love Bryan Singer, from Apt Pupil to Usual Suspects to his X-men films (despite the fact that they weren't totally true to the source material), but I do NOT want to see him jump ship to do Superman at the expense of X3! If there is a God in Heaven, WB will piss him off quickly so he can get back to X3 and not lose too much time. And this is not because I detest Superman in any way, I love Superman, but I am disgusted by the way WB is basically trying to buy themselves a franchise. Like Disney, they are just finding what works, buying it and slapping their label on it. BOOOOOOOOO! BOOOOOOO! TO YOU WB! HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! TRY TO BE FRIGGIN' ORIGINAL! Please let me wake up from this nightmare.

  • July 17, 2004, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Superman Fan Film

    by Ollie Q

    If youse guys wanna see a REAL Superman film.Check out that President Luthor movie thats floating around the net.Yeah its a fan film,but its better than anything the WB will ever put out.


  • July 17, 2004, 3:34 p.m. CST

    It's over for the dc characters....

    by Tal111

    The popularity of superhero movies has been following in the footsteps of the comics themselves. Superman and Batman were the first of the superhero comics therefore it stands to reason those films would make it to the theaters first. Now that the Marvel generation is of age we have Spidey and his brethren killing at the box office. It just seems logical that if comic book based films continue the next big wave will come from the third generation such as Image or Wildstorm or one of the Independents. Because the people who were into them will become of an age to make the decisions to make them. Of course people may still try to make Supes and Bats and the others but they'll NEVER have the kind of impact they once did.

  • July 17, 2004, 3:35 p.m. CST

    WB, let go of Jon Peters and bring in Joel Silver. That way, sh

    by Declan_Swartz

  • July 17, 2004, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Very happy about this...

    by tango fett

    But I'd almost prefer an origin movie, for a few reasons. 1-I hate admitting it, but I have not seen all of Superman 1, any of Superman 2, or 3 or even 4. I've been trying, but can't get around to it. 2-If this is a continuation of the originals, I know it's not possible at this point, but it will be a little weird with no Chris Reeves, kind of like Val Kilmer becoming Batman. 3-It really wouldn't feel consistent, kind of like the SW prequels to the old trilogy (special effects in particular). These are just small nerdy complaints. I think Bryan could pull this off, considering X2 is one of the best superhero movies out yet (the beginning with Nightcrawler is still one of my favorite movie scenes ever, particularly the music). Superman sounds good, Batman sounds good (mostly), if they would just approach Green Lantern a little more seriously. If they wanted to make a humorous DC film, they should make Plastic Man or something. Oh yeah, and I read that FF is gonna be a comedy...shudder...

  • Is this not the same Bryan Singer who let the art department create the opening sequence for X-Men without any direction just so he could go make some cash making 7-Up commercials? For the right price, Singer will probably do anything. And I mean anything.

  • July 17, 2004, 3:51 p.m. CST

    I agree, super man is the most boring comic hero ever.

    by Bourne GreyElf

    What the fuck is so exciting about a guy who has every over-powered ability? He can fly, shoot eye lasers, immune to every form of physical damage unless its from someone equally strong, hes super fast, has lame ass x-ray vision. besides, when superman fights say, generic thugs with guns, we all know he can't be shot, infact, 99% of the time hes never in any danger, so wheres the excitement? wheres the thrill? BORING! his only weakness is kryponite. thats fucking retarded. who the hells gonna have kryptonite on hand to fight this guy besides lex luthor, who for some reason has an endless supply of it. funny how shards of krypton happened to follow superman to the exact planet he landed on.STUPID. theres no depth or internal struggle to super man, like there is to batman, spiderman, daredevil. the 3 characters I just mentioned still have human weakness, emotions, reasons for being who they are. and besides, alteast those 3 actually have to use skill in combat to say, stop bankrobbers and villains. superman just walks forward and goes, hey, i'm invincible, too bad for you eh? Superman is a boring goody two shoes that does what he does just because. Singer should just stick to x-men. Superman being unstoppable for 2 hours and then being weakened by lex when he pulls out kryptogay at the end doesn't sound entertaining.

  • July 17, 2004, 4:34 p.m. CST

    "Superman Returns" will *not* be the title...

    by SalvatoreGravano

    ...since there already is one "returns" - Tim Burton's Mr Mouse II - *and* because it would set up false expectations for all that "death and return of Superman" blahblah.

  • July 17, 2004, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Stop complaing the curse of superman is dead

    by hallmitchell

    Guys, chill out. Stop complaing. This project was looking like a massive stuff up for a long time. WB's have got it right. Everyone knows the origin of superman and if you don't rent the dvd. It's a good movie. I'm excited! Bryan Singer did a great job on X-Men. They are showing us something different. The man of Steel is in good hands and may the curse be over.

  • July 17, 2004, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Cast for Superman

    by hallmitchell

    Superman=Ron Moss Bizarro= Jerry Seinfeld Lois= Lindsay Lohan Perry White= Paul Hogan Lex Luther= Johnny Depp

  • July 17, 2004, 5:32 p.m. CST

    C.O.Greyelf-- Yes, if...

    by Oknight

    Yes, if you don't look at any conflict more complex than "Oh no, the bad guy is going to kill me unless I get him" then yeah, S-man is boring. And that's the basic tension of 90% of mindless action entertainment-- movies or comics. Superman is all about collateral damage. HE can't be hurt, but everybody else can. He only works BECAUSE he's a big boy scout. If he were "Oh well, the orphanage is destroyed but that's the way it goes, now I'll pull out your spine in vengence-- Hasta la vista baby, you had a lot of guts" He wouldn't work at all. That's what you've got Batman, Punisher, Wolverine, et-bloody-cetera, for. Superman is all "oh no, Lois and Jimmy, or else I have to let all of California die" (not that that was a particularly inspired example, but it IS the basic conflict for Superman) You can take out Saddam, but can you stop the civil war that will kill 10 times as many people? Can you defeat Saddam's army without knocking walls down that crush adorable innocent orphan children?-- That is the story tension and conflict for Superman even if you give him infinite power. The gangster can't hurt you, but can you save the hostages that his crony is killing when you don't know where they are?

  • July 17, 2004, 5:34 p.m. CST

    So are those Michael Bay rumours true?

    by Floyd Gondolli

    Because he would make a GREAT superman. No, but seriously, I think Bryan Singer should make X3 (because the X1/X2 are great and make me want to see a third)and then move on to other genres rather than comic book movies, especially considering many of you feel he is not a good action director. I'd like to see him tackle something different as he seems to be a talented director.

  • July 17, 2004, 5:43 p.m. CST

    I want my X3 !!!

    by Dr Farragammo

    This is bullshite. C'mon this defies all logic. let's look at some facts : 1.Singer is gonna write ultimate xmen 2. Pre-Production has already started on X3. 3. Stamos, Jackman,and Cummings have all said they will begin filiming next spring. 4. McKellan, and marsden have confirmed they have been in discussions with singer and co. So now they scrap all that so the WHOLE core of the xmen team can do superman??? I think this either , is unture or 2, defies all common sense. Unless he can hammer it our before next spring, which is unlikely, then this is like singer pissing on all the xmen's cast and crews feet, as well as the fans. DC is at the top of their game in comics, but movie wise they are still suckin (although I think batman has a sliver of a chance at being good, unlike Burton and Schumaker's wrecking balls.) I mean who are they gonna get to do xmen now? Captain Dipshit who ruined Daredevil, and is currently ruining Ghost rider?? They probably will. With Fantastic 4 a comedy , it seems comic book movies are on their way back to the corman era. this is a damn shame. and donnie dorko as supes?? please. I love the xmen movies, and singer needs to be xavier to the franchise. khaaaannnnnn!!!

  • July 17, 2004, 5:54 p.m. CST

    caviezel IS supes

    by deadrapeddear

    Whoever said it is dead on. It's in the eyes. The guy has that earnest, all-american way about him, yet there's also something there a little otherworldly. Most important, unlike kutcher, gyllenhaal, etc., he is a MAN, which is important for supes. Plus, he's enough of an unknown that it won't be like "hey, it's brendan frasier in tights."

  • July 17, 2004, 6:18 p.m. CST

    This fuckin sucks.

    by Grando

    Superman is a boring ass character. Singer needs to get with the program forget the man of aluminium and get back on the winning team, the X-Men.

  • July 17, 2004, 6:23 p.m. CST

    No, we'll have to settle for a man who can WALK

    by Immortal_Fish

    Q: How many movie mutants can fly? A: *None* of them. No, I'm not griping about the lack of yellow spandex. Concessions are par for the course in adaptation to film. But this does not mean the character has to be all but completely different. In the comics, Kurt is studying to be a priest. In the movies, he's a religious zealot who engages in self-mutilation to atone. In the comics, Logan is a 5-foot ugly runt in his 60s. In the movies, he's a 6-foot thirtysomething chick magnet. In the comics, Scott and Jean were inseparable lovers. In the movies, more time was dedicated to the unnecessary sexual tension between Jean and Logan. Despite these gross differences, many ofyou claim that these movies were faithful. Well, let's see what Singer does to another icon. I'm sure it'll leave us wishing for Cage as Jane left us wishing for Lundgren.

  • July 17, 2004, 6:26 p.m. CST

    re: Emil Minty

    by MasterShake

    It's a beautiful day in Austin, but hot, and I just got back from a bike ride around town lake with friends. I turn on my computer and see another talkback where Emil Minty has been typing away, extolling "you geeks" to go out and get a life and get laid. That's just sad sad sad. Emil, you need to heed your own advice, dude.

  • July 17, 2004, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Hem, could work,....but why?

    by Duck_of_SII

    I agree with most of you that Singer should stay with X-men, the continuity is perfect already, and they

  • July 17, 2004, 6:55 p.m. CST

    superman returning?

    by frightnight

    Just heard the news, call me cynical but until I see a 'Now Filming' slate I won't be putting much faith into the Singer scenario. I hope he is going ahead with X3 it needs his closure. And maybe he can kinda pull the Superman saga off, but Donner is still out there and William's is still scoring! The first Superman was a landmark and an introduction on 'HOW TO TRANSLATE A COMIC BOOK TO MOVIE' and the perfect performance from an unknown actor - Christopher Reeve. A hard act to follow. (ps are the rumours true regarding another cut of Superman 2 with more of Donner's original material? now that's something to look forward to)

  • July 17, 2004, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Please, don't anybody make the wheelchair joke.

    by Cabron

    Thank you for showing restraint.

  • July 17, 2004, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Making this a sequel may work..

    by MaulRat

    But then again they should consider the reasons why it should not.. the biggest being, the batman syndrome, 3 different actors playing Batman, Christopher Reeve WAS superman.. you cannot create a sequel with another actor as Superman, unless he bares an uncanny likeness, and decent acting ability.. so far, noone has found one. Stay faithful to the Donner film and the source material.. but start over. Remake the origin story.. hell, Remake the Donner film, in present day or the past, either way could work.. But don't make a sequel.. DC to restart thier 2 biggest franchises.. (incidentally I think that people are reading too much into the title, much like 'Batman Begins' does anyone else think this is not the title?.. it just makes me think its a teaser poster catch.. like 'Batman - begins 2005' same with 'Superman - returns 2007'... anyway.. my two cents. *BAMF*

  • July 17, 2004, 7:05 p.m. CST

    I'd rather see Logan's run get made first.

    by stewiegriffin

    This whole Superman thing has lost what little excitement it had, if any. It's not like it hasn't been done 20 billion times before, on tv no less. The idea of Singer taking on Logan's Run was something worthy of my hard earned cash. Enough of the superhero turned into movie crap. They're starting to be like the the reality show craze, redundant and boring.

  • July 17, 2004, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Singer? Ugh.

    by WesReviews

    Great. Now Superman will be wearing all black leather. Because yellow, blue, and red spandex isn't nearly "realistic" enough. And a cape...Heavens no! Ugh. Where is Michael Bay when you need him?

  • July 17, 2004, 7:24 p.m. CST

    So are we going to have yet another conflicted and flawed Superh

    by SexyBeast

    Is hollywood going to roll out the En Vogue character design for a Superhero. Making him some kind of spineless liberal that is scared of all his power? If so YAWN.

  • July 17, 2004, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Sometime ago....

    by GSXR

    I believe just after Chris Reeve's terrible accident there was talk that we would have Superman played by Mr. Reeve ( CGI ) doing the Doomsday fight and then coming back as another actor. It would be a nice way to pass the torch and would also fit in with the title.

  • July 17, 2004, 7:50 p.m. CST


    by Ford Fairlane

    Let them cast J. Caviezel!

  • July 17, 2004, 7:59 p.m. CST

    DC needs to be allowed to operate as its own entity.

    by Barry Egan

    Warners needs to give DC the same creative freedom that Marvel now enjoys. Warners would, of course, retain all distribution rights of film and TV products and a share of the profits. I'm not a huge Green Lantern fan at all, but I am a Jack Black fan and this "zany comedy" (always the worst kind of comedy) GL ideas sounds awful. DC needs to have the power to control these properties from within.

  • July 17, 2004, 8:27 p.m. CST

    As Somebody already said, with Singer at the helm it'll just be

    by The Founder

    I don't see all the praise of Singer, I like the guy as much as the next, but like i said, Singer handles drama and suspenses well, but an action director he ain't. A Superman flick from Singer will just safe, and nothing more. We won't be like wow or in awe. Their's a wealth of talented directors, but the problem is they won't put up with the nonsense that WB will throw on them.

  • July 17, 2004, 8:32 p.m. CST

    The Rock as Superman and Hulk Hogan as Lex

    by Voice O. Reason

    It'll be Wrestlemania 18 all over again, brother!

  • July 17, 2004, 8:33 p.m. CST

    If Singer jumps ship with the Xmen, then FOX let Proyas take the

    by The Founder

    Aftr seeing I' Robot(pure summer entertainment and nothing more)I'm confident this guy could do the Xmen justice. I Robot could have been more, but the prblem was the script and not the director.

  • July 17, 2004, 9 p.m. CST

    emil minty

    by MasterShake

    You're still hanging around here? Wow, I must have hit a nerve.

  • July 17, 2004, 9:13 p.m. CST

    ok cloud rider, I'll agree that...

    by Bourne GreyElf

    if they have superman do all the things you just posted, like trying to babysit the entire world, doing things that are actually EPIC instead of worrying about lois lame,(thats not a typo, I spelled it like that on purpose), then yes, theres some potential there. I would personally love to see the 3 criminal kryptonians return from the phantom zone and kick supes ass, but that prolly won't happen, cuz singer doesn't think big. the next x-men movie should have astroid m, genosha, sentinels, and even alittle bit of the bishop storyline. that would be tite. but I don't think singer is ever going to get a spiderman movie budget, which doesn't help with his lack of imagination. oh well, i never liked supes anyway, why am I posting here? oh yeah, cuz I like you guys :)

  • July 17, 2004, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Magneto as Lex Luthor... anyone??

    by antonphd

  • July 17, 2004, 9:15 p.m. CST

    oh yeah, and leave emil minty alone,

    by Bourne GreyElf

    hes funny. I got a soft spot for trolls. hey, you guys remember this?;

  • July 17, 2004, 9:16 p.m. CST


    by Bourne GreyElf


  • July 17, 2004, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Safe Bet

    by kev_uk

    Not sure Singer is the right way to go, but I guess the producers think that he is safe bet with comic book movies. At least people know what to expect from Singer, given the two X-Men movies.

  • July 17, 2004, 9:41 p.m. CST


    by MikeyMan

    Muyabe the link to the Donner films will be the theme. What a great theme it was and as has already been posted, who could top it.

  • July 17, 2004, 9:43 p.m. CST

    This is the guy who changed X-Men from a superhero story to a sc

    by soylentphil

    They guy who couldn't figure out how to make the costumes work on a live-action level, so he gave them black leather uniforms and scaled down the whole thing? The guy whose "X-Men" was considered a successful comic book adaptation until "Spider-Man" came out, right? Whose success in his "X-Men" adaptation was said to be the way he brought it down to a human level and "de-superheroed" the whole thing - that guy? Just checking.

  • July 17, 2004, 9:48 p.m. CST

    I agree with Jim Caviezel as a good choice.

    by RowanM

    He's a top notch actor. He's got the right looks but he'll need to bulk up a bit first. Imagine a showdown between Christian Bale and Jim Caviezel? That would be worth going to see.

  • July 17, 2004, 10:12 p.m. CST

    this movie should be good :-)

    by RenaudMan

    as far as movie title goes, not that it matters, I would prefer something like Superman, or Superman Last Son Of Krypton

  • July 17, 2004, 10:16 p.m. CST

    by RenaudMan - my Superman movie fan page, and why not my Green Lantern movies fan page, and no comedy here, the first one more dark edgy & even scary -

  • July 17, 2004, 10:21 p.m. CST

    No polar bears, no Lexiac--okay, NOW I'm interested!

    by peachscience

    And I wouldn't mind seeing a clever and believable way to have this be a continuation of Donner's original film. If everyone is busy with Superman and X3--who's gonna make Transformers? Uh oh...

  • July 17, 2004, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Petition against comedy Green Lantern movie

    by RenaudMan

    Petition against comedy Green Lantern movie - Pass it along if you care about any Green Lantern

  • July 17, 2004, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Superman yes! No X3? Blows!

    by tHEmOOG

  • July 17, 2004, 10:28 p.m. CST

    You won't believe it till it's in the trades?

    by tHEmOOG

  • July 17, 2004, 10:34 p.m. CST

    ugh stupid fingers

    by tHEmOOG

    anyway..... Why bother coming here if you wont believe it till it's in the trades? I know Harry gets some bs news once in a while but come on man maybe if we all believe strong enough it can happen. Now all we have to do is wait for the man to fill the boots! I HAVE NOBODY IN MIND!!!! I don't like any of the names i've read. Jim Caveezul (whatevz) can not do that role.

  • July 17, 2004, 10:34 p.m. CST

    Now THIS I like! What took WB so long?

    by KingKrypton

    Singer? Respects comics. His X2 writers? Respect comics. I have total faith that these guys will turn this sinking ship around. For once, WB actually did something great, something nobody expected them to do. Superman IS back!

  • July 17, 2004, 10:48 p.m. CST

    Dr Farragammo speaks the truth

    by AlwaysThere

    Listen to what he says.

  • July 17, 2004, 10:55 p.m. CST

    i'm a HUGE superman fan. but i would rather see a Bay Superman a

    by dregmobile

    unless of course fox find an ample replacement for singer. 'desk' is right on the ball. it just goes to show wb have very...little...imagination when it comes to this.

  • July 17, 2004, 11:38 p.m. CST


    by AttackingClone

    I want fucking X3 more than fucking superman, he can kiss my arse. Fuck it. X2 is much better than Spidey2 IMHO and is the best super-hero film out there. I'm sure Supes in these hands would be awesome but can't they find some other director so McSinger can work on X3 pleeeease.

  • July 17, 2004, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Kyle and Ephram from Project Greenlight

    by Barry Egan

    With the DVD release of Project Greenliht Season 2, I was able o relive what a pair of complete and utter douche bags the "directors" were. I had forgotten their truly profound level of supidity and self-absorption. It is with that in mind that I say Warners should have Kyle and Ephram write and direct Superman.

  • July 18, 2004, 12:09 a.m. CST

    thanks AlwaysThere

    by Dr Farragammo

    AlwaysThere, I'm glad you feel like I do. The only way I will be cool with this, is if X3 gets done 1st, then let Singer do Superman. But it just seems so non -sensical when just a few days ago Stamos ad Cummings were talking about shooting in the spring, and a production designer was talking about the danger room being used in the film (all this info is on Superman is the flagship hero, and he will always have a soft spot with me, but X-Men is so much more satisfying as a film experience. X-2 to me, is the BEST superhero movie. I'm not saying you can't get another director to do Xmen justice, but if it ain't broke don't fix it! Mark Steven Johnson was so bad on daredevil (the playground scene!!!) and yet he's doing ghost rider and how many more crappy comic movies? And the guy on fantastic 4?? barbershop and taxi?? no thanks. Singer and Raimi have done bang-up jobs but I want them to be the standard, not the exception. Singer needs to stay on and see this through. We don't need another Schumaker-esque takeover.Supes can wait(indefinately). Avi Arad, quit whoring out the marvel name and get on top of this !!! sorry for the ramble!

  • July 18, 2004, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Superman did NOT spin the world back in time in the first movie.

    by LT_92122

    This is in response to one of Lyd's posts and many other similar ones I've seen. At the end of the first movie, when Superman flies around the world and it appears to be rotating the other way, he hasn't actually changed the rotation of the earth. He is travelling back in time and what we see on the screen is just a visual representation of that - and a well-conceived one at that! Earlier in the movie, when Lois interviews him, she asks him how fast he can fly. At the end of the movie, we finally get the answer - FASTER THAN LIGHT !!

  • July 18, 2004, 1:18 a.m. CST

    Great news, but whatever happned to the ALIEN LEGION film that w

    by StoneMonkey

    ALIEN LEGION was one of EPIC comics' greatest series and begs for a film featuring Sarigar and others battling other alien baddies. Could the team of Paul Verhouven and Jon Davison bring us this sci-fi wet dream? Mel Gibson as Sarigar(with CGI bottom half)? So long as it's more faithful to the source material(ala HELLBOY) we might have a truly epic alien war film.

  • July 18, 2004, 2:18 a.m. CST

    This just sounds like another bullshit rumor gone too far

    by HavocZer0

    Sorry, it was reported months ago that Singer and his writers were working on X3's script, Its also why they're getting a shot at Ultimate X-Men. I don't know, frankly I'd rather see X3, and didn't Singer have an office now at Fox just so he could start working on X3? All I know is, I'm waiting till I hear official reports. Cause think about it, for comic geeks, Singer's a pipe-dream and has Warner Brothers shown its listened to its fans at all?

  • July 18, 2004, 2:25 a.m. CST

    Whew. I thought Superman went to Michael Bay...

    by FD Resurrected

    X2 is a better film than the original because of substantial character development, not to forget a good story. Character development is uncommon in superhero movie adaptations. If only Oliver Stone direct Superman, that would be a crazy idea. Speaking of Spider-Man 3, I think James Cameron should write the script and helm the film, if he can toss out that lame scriptment he wrote in early 90's and start over anew. McG, Michael Bay and even Antonio Fuqua should be issued restraining order barring them from planning to rape the superhero movie adaptations with their "style is more compelling than substance" hack movie director viewpoint.

  • July 18, 2004, 2:45 a.m. CST


    by Dr Farragammo

    I hope your right HavocZer0, because I was under the same impression. i'll be bummed out otherwise. this whole announcement is way to bizarre, I mean bizarro!

  • July 18, 2004, 2:53 a.m. CST

    Fuck Moviemack - read the BATMAN BEGINS first draft for yourselv

    by Mosquito March

    E me and I'll send the file to you. And, bear in mind it is a FIRST DRAFT. That's something Moviemack refuses to comprehend.

  • July 18, 2004, 3:08 a.m. CST

    parker posey 4 lois lane?

    by Acne Scarface

  • July 18, 2004, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by moviemaniac-7

    Can't he make X3 first and complete the trilogy? Personally, I think Singer was / is making the ultimate superhero trilogy and now he dumps it for the man of steel? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, given his track record (tUS, X1 & 2)

  • July 18, 2004, 3:55 a.m. CST

    RE: The Movie Show with Joe Scott

    by The Tao of Joe

    Greetings, Indie Film Community... Tomorrow at 10 am - 1 pm eastern time, I will be hosting my first ever radio show. Its odd. I will be doing a specialty show, and I will also be the only one in the booth. This never happens for anyone who is a beginer, but I was told it was because my idea for my show was pretty original. The name of the show is The Movie Show With Joe Scott (not too original, I know, but at least it tells people what its about). Basically what I do is talk about movies, and play music from soundtracks. As the show continues, I hope to make it more talk oriented, with call ins from listeners who want to sound off on movies (they definitely wont let me do something like that yet, but if you want to listen to my show. If you live in the greensboro area currently, you can pick us up on the radio on 103.1 FM, but you can also listen over the internet at . Also, if you like, you can call me on the request line at 336.334.5450, if you would like to talk about whatever I bring up on the air. I will try and share your opinion, but due to the fact that I am a beginer, I can't play your voice on the radio yet. Things I will be talking about are: I, Robot Badasss (its my movie of the week, and one you guys should try and check out if you can) Box Office DVD's Coming out Tuesday Movie and DVD News (Indy 4 as well as a ton of comic book movie news that has been coming out lately). There will be a movie quote trivia question So maybe I will see you guys in the morning, and maybe I wont. I just realized its almost 6 hours until I go on air, and I seriously need to sleep. Take Care, Joe Scott

  • July 18, 2004, 4:05 a.m. CST

    Superman Returns

    by Ivan_Mtl

    First of all, let me just congratulate Warner Bros. on their decision to relieve McG of his directorial duties on the proposed Superman film, as well as tossing out the very unpopular script by JJ Abrahms. Despite the subsequent rewrites, the powers that be finally recognized that it was unsalvageable. Secondly, kudos to them for hiring a creative team who are fans of the medium and have a proven track record in successfully translating comic book characters to the big screen. Also, it is wonderful to hear that they will be acknowledging the earlier films. Personally, I think that they will probably incorporate some of the "Phantom Zone" elements from the first and second films. Could the shattered doorway to the Phantom Zone (Superman 2) still be open? Perhaps the super computer, Braniac, may be introduced and it could be revealed that he escaped Krypton's destruction by hiding in the phantom zone and finds his way out by following a transmission from a Lexcorp satellite (similar to Kevin Smith's "Superman Lives" draft). Maybe Superman will "return" from a self-imposed exile (perhaps thinking that humans have come to rely too greatly on him to solve their problems for them) because the threat that Braniac poses is of Kryptonian origin? Whatever the case, I look forward to seeing what this new creative team has in store for us. But please... introduce DARKSEID in the inevitable sequel!!

  • July 18, 2004, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Good for WB, BAD BAD BAD for comics fans

    by MrCere

    Bitch and moan all you want, but Singer is an intelligent story teller. WB did the right thing for themselves but for ME, I want Singer to finish his X-Men trilogy. Even those who don't love Singer hafta admit this is leaps and bounds a HELLUVA lot better than prior choices. Some of you may live in a different universe or reality where directors far superior to Singer are a dime-a-dozen but for most folks who pay money for movies with a soft spot for men in tights, WB nailed it. If movie people ever read this site they will suddenly realize NOTHING is good enough for fans..........................

  • July 18, 2004, 6:04 a.m. CST

    I know I'm wasting my time, but...

    by LT_92122

    Lyd - ever heard of rewinding tape? Same principle - run time backwards and the Earth would appear to be going the other way. Duh. Oh yeah, and the first Superman was a classic...and Proyas would be a poor choice for director, if his latest is any indication...

  • July 18, 2004, 6:16 a.m. CST

    Am I dreaming?

    by Lilium

    Can anyone tell me if Hell has frozen over yet?

  • July 18, 2004, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Oknight... you're right..

    by Mr Chuff

    and if I'd thought about it for 5 minutes rather than posting in haste I'd have come up with that too.. I admit to being a slightly flacid penis at this juncture....:(. It's an angle I'd love to see more in Superman, what he cant do instead of the "hey look! I can fly, I'm bulletproof" anmd everything else that seems to get centred on a bit too much.

  • July 18, 2004, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Michael Bay!

    by CurryIce

    For WB don't have a better idea, they should choose Michael Bay. He's not the ideal director but i'd rather see a Bay than a Singer Superman. Singer for X3!!!

  • July 18, 2004, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Bryan Singer/Superman Returns

    by dugefresh

    This is very dissapointing! What are they waiting on? Get X3 and X4 going! Do you know how many people are anxiously waiting to see the Phoenix saga played out on the big screen? Including myself. Hey 20th Century Fox! Quit messing around and get X3 made pronto before the actors start leaving the project, or another director comes along and really screws things up.

  • July 18, 2004, 8:40 a.m. CST

    This is horrible news.

    by chilli_at_bobs

    X-men and X-men 2 were boring and barely linear to the comics. George Lucas, John Woo, Paul Thomas Anderson and Bryan Singer should open up a collaborative studio and called Sucky ASS movies. Maybe they should just be refered to as the "Ed Woods" of the 21th Century. As for X-men 3, let's face it, it needs better writers and a better director. As for Superman, why even bother seeing the movie, save a few dollars and turn up your ac, dim the lights and take a nap because there's no point in paying someone to bore you to sleep. Why do studios even bother trying to carring on dying or dead trends. Comics book movies are out. Catwoman sealed the nail in that coffin. Anime is the new up and coming thing. If studios are going to milk the comic fanbase, then they should atleast fire all their lame-ass, sucky directors, and give the fans a chance to direct. Personally I would love to see a movie by that guy that's alway talking about casting Hulk Hogan. Now that would be a movie.

  • July 18, 2004, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Ofcourse Singer would take Superman!

    by droids22

    There's a reason why the X-men films aren't as epic as they should be. The budget doesn't allow for it. Which is also why you don't see any of the X-men flying. If someone is gonna give you a Spiderman 2 budget to do a Superman flick wouldn't you take that? Plus next to Spiderman, Superman is the crown jewel of super heroes.

  • July 18, 2004, 8:45 a.m. CST

    They need to retire Superman

    by dugefresh

    Forget Superman, the X-men and all the other marvel heros are the superheros of the millenium. Give Singer more money Fox and get that Phoenix saga on the big screen ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Of all the directors out there they have to pick the X-men's director. Just like those DC guys to get a Marvel guy to get their act together!!!!!!!!

  • July 18, 2004, 8:54 a.m. CST

    chilli at bobs....

    by The Tao of Joe

    I get tired of you and the rest of the hardcore X-Men geeks when you complain that the X-films do not follow the storyline verbatim. I mean if they did that, the first one would have been a boring ass movie featuring a stocky guy who runs around in a spandex jump suit, a guy with angel wings, and an f-ing snow man for crying out loud. It would take at least 40 movies to get to the claremont era, when X-Men really started to cook. You guys are insane, and no, a fanboy should not be allowed to direct a movie. If you actually ever directed anything, you would see that its nothing to hand over to a socially maladjusted amateur. Reading the first pages of many fan fics, erotic and non, I see that storytelling is simply not their forte'.

  • July 18, 2004, 9:01 a.m. CST

    A decent talkback at last because this news matters!

    by Silver_Joo

    I'm reading Astonishng X-Men written by Joss Whedon and the guy is really hitting all the right notes. I have always found Buffy and Angel hit and miss, and having not seen Firefly I can't really give an opinion BUT if there is no Singer, the only man that truly understands X-Men is Whedon. He would be tremednous, and if he brought Kitty into it and dropped Storm as she has been underused anyway - wow. Viva la Joss for X3 if this news is true - they have to make sure X3 works great because X-Men 1 and 2 are Marvel's finest hours.

  • July 18, 2004, 9:02 a.m. CST

    I can't believe some of you are still bitching and moaning! Thi

    by Red Raider

    Choose A or B on the following: Who would you rather have directing the next Superman movie: A. McG. B. Bryan Singer. What would you rather have: A. Another "origin" story. B. An original story with the characters already established. (Lets face it: practically everyone on this rock knows who Clark Kent, Lois Lane, Lex Luthor, Perry White, & the Daily Planet are, so another origins story would be a waste of time & resources. Besides, how do you out-do Richard Donner's telling of the origins of Superman? answer: you don't!).____Remember all the ridiculous ideas being floated around Superman in the past several years? Gay robots, Brainiac wrestling polar bears, SUIT IN A CAN(shittiest idea ever), Jimmy Olsen gay, Lex Luthor a kryptonian, Krypton never exploded, jeez these ideas were craptacular to say the least! Thank the Maker they were shit-canned! Now Bryan Singer & his crew are coming in to save Supes from a horrible fate.______ The article said that Singer will still do X3 after Superman & the Logan's Run remake. The lensing of X3 is, at most, three years away. By then the actors that played Pyro, Iceman, and Rogue will be full adult members of the X-Men(well, everyone but Pyro, methinks). Even though the FX technology already exists to create Beast, imagine how good he'll look three years from now in X3! Perhaps they can bring in Juggernaut as a potential baddie. Let him & Colossus have a throw down in the next film!

  • July 18, 2004, 9:09 a.m. CST

    The Tao of Joe

    by chilli_at_bobs

    Hey, I didn't ask your opinion so don't address your crap to me. Read the rules, your direction to oppress my opinions is a clear violation. Besides, what the hell makes you think that I care about what you think? I didn't ask you, no one asked you. I stated my opinion for those who feels as I do, everyone else can side with their shared perspectives. Psychologically you must have some sort of pre-adolescent egocentric view (disorder) in which your delusional opinion is solely correct. It seems as if those who disagree with you are damned to have your view shoved down their throat. Hey get some counseling, and read the rules. As for your tired of "geeks" like me, well f__k, you, I'm not a hard core geek. But this show your true narrowness, these "geeks" you hate, are the ones who bought the comics and went to the conventions. They're the one who made a fanbase that savored the studios mouths. Think about that you tard. And if I get banned so be it, you need to be put in your place, and if you want to keep at it, I guarantee you won't win so drop it and respect other people's opinions.

  • July 18, 2004, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Jim Caviezel is absolutely wrong for the part

    by Melisande

    Jim Caviezel looks haunted and like he's being eaten from within. Superman needs to glow.

  • July 18, 2004, 10:04 a.m. CST


    by Meer

    As long as they get a decent Lois Lane. Fingers crossed this is for real.

  • July 18, 2004, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Thats right chilli at bobs

    by dugefresh

    I could'nt agree more chilli at bobs. Had'nt really thought about it that way, but I've been collecting comics since I was 7 years old (Now 36) and no I am certainly not a geek and/or nerd or whatever you want to call it. But we comic fans did create the fan base and we are the ones who made these characters popular in the first place. So DITTO to what you said!

  • July 18, 2004, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Anyone else disturbed by the amount of money this project must h

    by Aston Lad

    Nic Cage, Kevin Smith, Tim Burton, Michael Bay, Bryan Singer, Johnny Depp, Wolfgang Petersen, McG, Scarlett Johanson, J.J. Abrams, Josh Hartnett, Anthony Hopkins...just a few of the names linked to this project in the last 10 years. At least some of them must have had pay-or-play contracts. The amount of studio time spent negotiating possible contracts for these names IF they somehow were to get involved must have been immense. The amount of conceptual design and artwork each director must have commissioned for his individual version must have cost plenty too. Personally, I'm betting they've already sunk tens of millions of dollars into getting a fifth superman off the ground and they've not even shot a single frame of film. Which means that by the time it does hit screens, it'll probably need to be one of the all time biggest hits just to break even (No wonder execs want to shoot it in Australia). Good luck is all I can say. This latest news, if true, is a big step in the right direction, so long as Singer doesn't drag the finale out like he did with X2 (an otherwise superb film).

  • July 18, 2004, 10:23 a.m. CST


    by DarthBakpao

    but i think it will be HENRY CAVILL folks! since Singer himself has already wanted cavill in Logan's Run ... CAVIEZEL would be great. We need a SUPERMAN to match Christian Bale's BATMAN!

  • July 18, 2004, 10:34 a.m. CST


    by stlfilmwire

    Ok. Why in the hell is Lois Lane going to be in 13 new episodes? According to, there are many scenes that will involve Lois interacting with Clark. I don't know about you, but this better take place in Metropolis at the Daily Planet. If it's Lois hanging out with Clark before he gets a job at the paper, I will vomit. If this is the case, cancel the show!

  • July 18, 2004, 10:57 a.m. CST

    i'll save these guys the trouble by going one step further: you

    by atomheartbrother

    because we're talking about mythic iconography that everybody's familiar with you don't need origins, previous movies or anything. just give us superman the way it's SUPPOSED to be, or even better the way we'd always wanted it to be (you know, what with all the cgi that allows you to do anything) and i'll be happy.

  • July 18, 2004, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Was this story as unintelligible for you as it was for you?

    by aceattorney

    WTF did harry just write?

  • July 18, 2004, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Now if they sign Jim Cavaziel as Superman, all will be well.

    by riskebiz

    I'd rather Michael Bay instead ... and I'd rather Singer make Logan's Run and X3 ... and it seems strange to me that Singer would prefer Superman over Logan's Run and X3 .... but at least Abrams script is gone and McG is done screwing with the movie with his girly-boy choice for Superman: Henry Cavill. I was just watching The Count of Monte Cristo last night and I'm still amazed that Cavill was at the top of the heap of McG's choices ..._______ That said, I wonder what will happen with X3 now? I suppose the Dark Phoenix saga will go the wayside? I really can't imagine anyone taking the lead on that movie without driving nails in the coffin. Well, if Singer signs Jim Cavaziel as Superman, I'd be pretty happy. I'd also like it if they consider Clancy Brown as Lex Luthor. Not only does he play a great villain ... but he was the voice of Luthor in the Superman animated series.

  • July 18, 2004, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Geeks threatening to vomit. that is awesome.

    by Tall_Boy

    that's all.

  • July 18, 2004, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Aceattorney... I agree...

    by stlfilmwire

    AICN spends so much time being preoccupied with showing us how "inside" they are that they forget to just print the bottom line. I could care less about all the other crap. Get to the details.

  • July 18, 2004, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Clancy Brown

    by stlfilmwire

    Clancy Brown as a suggestion? I like the way you think! Problem is, you know they'll get some face to play him.

  • July 18, 2004, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Singers pissed at Lauren Schuler Donner-that's why he's all butt

    by DOGSOUP

    She demands Gambit and he HATES Gambit.That's why he's putting it on the backburner.Joss Wheden could be good...Let's see Serenity first....

  • July 18, 2004, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Reason #1 to FORGET DONNER

    by stlfilmwire

    Can you read my mind? - Do you know what it is that you do to me? - I don't know who you are - Just a friend from another star - Here I am, like a kid out of school - Holding hands with a god, I'm a fool - Will you look at me, quivering - Like a little girl, shivering - You can see right through me - Can you read my mind? - Can you picture the things I'm thinking of? - Wondering why you are - All the wonderful things you are - You can fly! - You belong in the sky! - You and I - Could belong to each other... - If you need a friend - I'm the one to fly to - If you need to be loved - Here I am - Read my mind -- (by Lois Lane)

  • July 18, 2004, 12:48 p.m. CST


    by mcflytrap

    1) Singer's good, but not great. I'd look into a more visually appealing director because Singer seems to lack that. 2) Continue the Donner universe - damn skippy! And use John Williams' score..nothing better than that. 3) Refrain from hiring some barely 20-something WB "hunk of the week" in the title role. Get someone who can act and doesn't just look pretty all the time.

  • July 18, 2004, 1:08 p.m. CST


    by stlfilmwire

    The only way to continue in the Donner universe is to say that there was a terrible battle and that everyone thought Superman was dead... because after fighting a villian nobody heard from him again. Then suddenly have him return... kind of a death/rebirth of Superman. Other than that, the Donner series (in my eye) died after Superman 2.

  • July 18, 2004, 1:32 p.m. CST

    I agree with most posters in that...

    by ChorleyFM

    I would prefer X3, but this will at least mean we wil have a watchable new Superman film, hopefully with good actors, I would pick wither Jim Caviezel, or Peter Krause.

  • July 18, 2004, 1:48 p.m. CST


    by stlfilmwire

    Holy Cow! Bruce Campbell as Space Ghost.... with digital Brak! YES! Rumor is, all the voices (except for Space Ghost) will be from the Adult Swim crew! Even the Space Ghost from adult swim will be in it... as a space ghost robot! Apparently it's about them running a talk show, retired from adventure when one of the old kids from the show returns as a twenty five year old to tell them they need to unretire and go off and do some good fighting evil. Brak and crew have no choice but to go along for the ride... and are even promised freedom if they help.

  • July 18, 2004, 2:29 p.m. CST


    by zathras34

    CMON JUST ONCE...HUGH JACKMAN AND TOBY MGUIRE.... OR BETTER..WESLY SNIPES AND (The batman of the week) Combine all the great things of each Director and Style's...And the Ya go... With all that and great penciling,no more Bitching by anyone..... (Me personally I would love to see "Arcade" and "Murderworld" done high bucks on the big screen..).. remember,,team ups... peace

  • July 18, 2004, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Bryan Singer is not my top choice but I'll take him for the foll

    by Spacesheik

    1. He wants to continue Donner's Superman lore. 2. He is starting a script from scratch ditching JJ Abrams bullshit 3. He respects comic book properties. Now he is not perfect mind you, action-wise, the only decent action scene he ever did was at the beginning of X-MEN 2 and even that was lifted off SUPERMAN II's sequence when Zod and Co storm the White House and kill off Secret service men etc. I would also think that the fact that Singer has worked with Lauren Shuller Donner prolly means he will respect what her husband did with the SUPERMAN flicks.

  • July 18, 2004, 2:36 p.m. CST

    John Williams

    by Spacesheik

    Guys just the fact that Singer will continue the Superman Donner lore means John Williams will return with his fantastic score. I mean really, you cannot top that. I DEMAND A 5 MINUTE CREDIT SEQUENCE WITH THAT BOMBASTIC MAGNIFICENT SCORE IN THE NEW MOVIE!!!

  • July 18, 2004, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Don't Be Stupid. This will have NOTHING to do with Donner's time

    by twitaman

    What director in his right mind would take over a project that has baggage from 25 years ago? Bryan Singer is a bright man, and a talented director, there is no way in hell that he would do something as "geeky", ill-conceived, and juvenile as to tie in with the timeline somehow of the earlier Superman films. It's just a ridiculous thought that I suppose springs from a fanboy's love of comic book continuity. If anything he will pay homage to Donner's earlier work with small flourishes in the same spirit that the television show, Smallville does -- you know, a wink there and a nod here. I'm glad Warners has finally put a great creative team behind Superman but I am disappointed if this affects Singer's concentration on the next X-Men film.

  • July 18, 2004, 3:36 p.m. CST

    New X3 Directors

    by twitaman

    So, since we all know Hollywood is about making quarterly projections, there is probably a very good chance that Bryan Singer will be replaced as the director for X3 so that Fox can meet their target dates and get a sequel out while the movie is hot. After all, these things do have a shelf life (I mean, how long long can Rebecca Romijn keep up that Mystique physique?). Knowing that there will most likely be a new director taking over the X3 project who would you want at the helm? My votes go to: 1) Richard Kelly (Donnie Darko) 2) Joss Whedon (he knows the property and he's proven on his show BtVS that he is a competent director) 3) F. Gary Gray (The Italian Job)

  • July 18, 2004, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Casting idea: Justin Long as Jimmy Olsen

    by Barry Egan

  • July 18, 2004, 4:37 p.m. CST

    CG Superman

    by droids22

    All I know is that we are finally gonna see a CG Superman! And if they get the story right will blow the tits off of Spiderman. Think about that! I think this is one of the reasons everyone wants to revitalize this franchise... seeing a realistic CG Superman flying around in 3-D space! No more cables and rear projected crap. Gives me goose bumps just thinking about it!

  • July 18, 2004, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Why is it that Talkbackers always rag on

    by ChaseSequence

    directors by predicting they'll make their next movie exactly like their previous films? Superman isn't going to be gay subtext; Bryan Singer is a fucking filmmaker, and he's a pretty good one at that. Good filmmakers don't make the same movie over and over again, you unimaginative twits.

  • July 18, 2004, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Some truly shitty ideas in these talkbacks...

    by TheFastTheFurion

    I always peruse the talkbacks just to read the terrible casting/crew/story ideas of everyone here. Every 500th post there's a jewel of creativity, but for the most part its ideas like Richard Kelly directing X3, or the guy who does the voice for Lex Luthor being cast as Lex Luthor. I can think of one time a fanboy casting decision came through and that was Christian Bale. Every other time the studio (usually) finds someone far better for the part that noone here even thought of. SEAN CONNERY FOR GANDALF! XMEN MUST HAVE THEIR COSTUMES!(remember that debate?) The mind just shuddders at the possibilities this mess comes up with. The studios make enough terrible decisions on their own (Catwoman) they don't need the "fans" helping them along.

  • July 18, 2004, 4:55 p.m. CST


    by Hypestyle

    what gives here? all this carping about being reluctant to portray characters flying, and now he does SUPERMAN? what the fuck?!? He's better off doing X-Men 3...

  • July 18, 2004, 5:02 p.m. CST

    I've never wanted something on this site to be true so badly!

    by Cletus Van Damme

    ....and WAIT for Singer to make X3!

  • July 18, 2004, 5:48 p.m. CST

    would have preferred twohy

    by kev_uk

    david twohy gave us a very good film in pitch black, and looks set to follow with another hit in chronicles of riddick. i think he could create a visually stunning film in superman, with devishly dark action pieces.

  • July 18, 2004, 5:56 p.m. CST


    by stlfilmwire

    Keeping the Donner idea would be best the following way. 99% of all viewers know what happened to Christopher Reeve... right? Well start the movie off on a major downer... everyone talking about how Superman is gone and how there are rumors that he is dead... all they know is he left to stop a conflict and it was the last they heard of them... until poof! He's back... somehow he is back... and yet he looks a little different than before... and people don't understand why. But he feels stronger, and better. Some people think he is not to be trusted... and that he is the product of Lex Luthor hush-hush lab work... who knows... Just an idea.

  • July 18, 2004, 5:56 p.m. CST


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  • July 18, 2004, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Minty goodness

    by MasterShake

    Man, you are a riot! I can just see you, hunched over the keyboard, face-flushed, vein throbbing in forhead."YAARRGH! Someone dares criticize ME in a talkback! YAARRGH! I will get them! I will call them bad names and insinuate they lead a deviant lifestyle! I will threaten to beat them up and take their lunch money! They will know my wrath!" Hilarious! I know you will see and respond to this, because you obviously spend 95% of your time checking your talkbacks to if anyone has taken your trollbait. I admit I fell into the trolltrap, so, let me respond on a level I know you'll understand. "NYAAAH, NYAAAH, THHBBBBPTH! You're a Poopiepants!"

  • July 18, 2004, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Chili at Bobs?

    by The Tao of Joe

    I don't think I tried to censor you or tell you what you couldnt say. I just think you are insane for thinking they should make the X-Men movies follow the books issue by issue, and give directorial control of a big budget movie to a comic book geek who lacks any experience or skill. The fact of the matter is, people who do nothing besides read comic books make not only for bad story tellers, but when they try and make comics, they suck too. The same goes for any medium. One must bring life, reality, and a cross reference of different mediums into any art form, or in the end, it is derivative sludge that lacks in originality or soul (I.E. most of the early comic books by IMAGE). I used to read comics myself, and try to pick some up occasionally when my old favorite writers do something special, but I am able to discern that the difference between comic books (especially ones from the fifties) and movies (in particular ones made today) are like apples and oranges.

  • July 18, 2004, 6:55 p.m. CST

    What about Joe Millionaire?

    by Lionardo

    Not sure if he can act his way out of a child-smothering dry cleaner bag, but he does seem to be able to pull off that "golly gee" boyscout thing. And even though I never actually saw Joe Millionaire, from his red carpet appearances, he looks like Alex Ross drew him to fill this part.

  • July 18, 2004, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Clancy Brown as Lex

    by Lionardo

    TheFastTheFurion says casting Lex's voixe as Lex is stupid. Maybe he's never seen Starship Troopers (Sargent Zim) The Highlander (The Kurgan) or Shawshank Redemption (uhh.. the prison gaurd) but Clancy Brown would be PERFECT as Luthor. No actor has ever radiated menace the way Brown does.

  • July 18, 2004, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Jack Black GREEN LANTERN????

    by Telstar12

    Actually, he COULD pull it off ala Michael Keaton. He starts off as overweight doofus.... He gets the ring, and... IN THE GYM WITH HIM....! LOSE 30 POUNDS.... SWITCH FAT FOR MUSCLE.... He is a good actor... Just watch his part in BOB ROBERTS.... He acts like a dolt... He ACTS.... If they set it up to film the first parts with him overweight, and give him 3 - 5 months to lose the gut... Everyone will be in for treat.

  • July 18, 2004, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Singer's VISION for Supes:

    by --steven--

    It looks like our report from the 12th seems to have worked out for all parties. Singer has "Wolfganged" from Logan's Run and will now make Superman his next project. We've heard that Bryan's dream since he was a kid, since he first saw Superman: The Movie, was to direct his own Superman movie. Nobody is more passionate about doing this movie than Bryan Singer. When asked at a press conference if he referenced any other films when making X-Men he replied: "The only film that I used as a template was the first act of Superman I to describe that level of seriousness and elegance that I hoped to bring to it. When young Clark Kent is growing up with his family. The idea that this boy from the stars falls into your cornfield and raise him. That was an analogy. Other than that I tried to make it as real and as human as possible and still maintain the spectacle and fantasy that is X-Men." We hear that Singer's vision of Superman is to ground his world in reality but keep the fantastical elements of the character alive. A major part of Donner's vision was to convince the audience that a man could fly and Singer will go down a similar route. A source close to Singer said that he wants to pose the question "What would happen and how would we react if tomorrow a flying guy dressed in primary colors appeared on the news saving people's lives?" So don't expect a macabre Burton style hero, or a Raimi hyper-real approach, or even the Nolan approach. Singer's take will be unique, with an eye on the real world and the human element of the story. If Bryan's Superman goes through then you can forget about Spider-Man, X-Men and Batman Begins, this will own them all!! =)

  • July 18, 2004, 7:19 p.m. CST

    X3 directors:

    by andrew coleman

    Alex Proyas would do a good job I think he's great with visuals. Also James Cameron but he'd never do it so drop that. I can't think of any others maybe they should let M. Night Shyamalan try it or something haha

  • July 18, 2004, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Warner Bros. has REAL opportunity here. Can you REALLY get a se

    by JDanielP

    What makes this exciting is the fact that it COULD be SO well done that EVERYONE would believe that Christopher Reeve is Superman once again ... and we would see him fly. (I'm thinking if they only had James Cameron, ... or myself) -- I imagine a story that begins with the fall of Superman. It could be Doomsday or even Lex Luthor behind it, ... but we see Superman killed ... or so, everyone is led to believe. But Superman wasn't killed. He was paralyzed from the neck down. And not even the rays of our yellow sun, the source of Superman's powers, can heal him. For the past 25 years, the United States government has had our paralyzed Superman locked away 10,000 feet below the surface at Area 51, far from sunlight ... having depleted what powers he had left (vision powers, etc...). No longer referred to as Superman, "Clark" merely exists as an empty shell of his former self. He has become a "guinea pig" for military scientists, though respected for the hero he once was. No chance or desire for escape, he is afforded few pleasures in life. -- But what happens when Superman is needed again? And what if scientists managed to create a "biologically engineered armored suit" for Clark that would restore the use and power of his body, when returned to the surface of earth? Imagine how cool such a suit could be designed, with a raised Superman emblem on the chest-piece!! And Christopher Reeve COULD in fact play this part ... with all the Hollywood movie effects (and tricks) in full steam!! -- I envy the people who are in a position to make such things happen ... because I know that I sure as hell would LOVE to be a part of it. Even just to conceptualize the story and the suit!! (LUCKY people!!!!) -- I've always wanted to be a filmmaker ... so that I could REALIZE the visions in my head ... the way I personally visualize stories (and action) unfolding in my mind's eye. There's not much in this world that I'm truely good at ... but I know without a doubt that if I ever had the opportunity, I would become one of the greatest filmmakers in the world.

  • July 18, 2004, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Emil Minty VS. Master Shake

    by Junior Frenger

    NOW THAT WOULD MAKE AN AMAZING MOVIE!!! But seriously this has been one of the funniset talkback arguments I've seen in a long time. The question is: Why does Minty know so much about shut-in, deviant, infantile, geek boys? My guess would be that... HE PROBABLY IS ONE, and the idea of a fellow geek having a life outside of his basement and the comic book store drives him crazy. Emil take a deep breath and realize there are thousands of Russian women who want to marry you. RIGHT NOW!!! Go ahead and order one. On that note I have to go because my girlfriend, who happens to be a Victorias Secret model, want's me to sodomize her.

  • July 18, 2004, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Official Word: Casting

    by stlfilmwire

    Shia LaBeouf will be Jimmy Olson. This, from what I understand, is confirmed. Shia is that kid from Holes and that Project Greenlight movie.

  • July 18, 2004, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Superman will wear a black leather suit...

    by el zar

    He won't fly. Maybe levitate. Will Singer turn this into Sci-fi or make it like the comic ? We'll see

  • July 18, 2004, 10:12 p.m. CST

    I was stoked to see Michael Bay headline this project...

    by ComicBookGeek77

    Put Singer back on X3 where he belongs and let's let Michael Bay take a swing at the boyscout.

  • July 18, 2004, 10:16 p.m. CST

    How about...

    by stlfilmwire

    I'd rather see M. Night, Cameron, or Gary Coleman direct it.

  • July 18, 2004, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Anyone else...

    by Wulverene

    Tired of all the constant trashing of the Superman character. Everything I read about is how Superman is dead and that he is such a boring and worthless character. Superman's ideals are what all of the world should strive to follow. All we seem to have in this world are people that constantly put down others. People feel the need to commit crimes against one another just because they are different. You don't have to like Superman, Spider-Man, the X-Men or any other Superhero for that matter, but please respect the characters. If you like a Superhero then do it because of what the hero stands for, not because he looks "cool" or doesn't "take no shit from anyone." Remember, its not the powers that make the hero. It's how the hero chooses to use those powers. Thank You.

  • July 18, 2004, 10:52 p.m. CST


    by Atomica

    Thank God and all that is Holy, my hopes have come to fruition. Brian Singer is freaking Awesome. This is Awesome!!!!!!!

  • July 18, 2004, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Anybody who says Superman is boring has obviously never read the

    by J-Dizzle

    nuff said

  • July 18, 2004, 11:48 p.m. CST

    Peters and Caviezel

    by ChrisBr

    Please tell me Peters is gone or will have limited involvement now. He has proven that he has the ability to really screw things up and I hope that Warners will let Singer and his team have autonomy. As for Caviezel, I hop he is not the choice. I feel like his role in the Passion bring an unnecessary stigma to ihm from the get go. Additionally, given Singer's rumored excentricities, I am not so sure Caviezel's born again christian background will mesh to well with Singer.

  • July 19, 2004, 12:16 a.m. CST


    by Cletus Van Damme

    Bryan Singer Confirmed for Superman! Source: Variety Sunday, July 18, 2004 Both good news and bad news. Variety has just confirmed that "X-Men" series director Bryan Singer signed a deal Friday to develop and direct Warner Bros.' Superman. The bad? He will not be doing X-Men 3. Here are highlights from the article, we'll link to the full article if/when it becomes available... -Singer, who helmed "The X-Men" comicbook adaptations for Fox, is expected to work with "X-2" scribes Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris to draft a tentpole that starts production late this year in Australia. -A tug-of-war over Singer's next project had been going on for weeks, with Fox's third "X-Men" installment competing with Warner's remake of "Logan's Run" to land the helmer. It now looks likely that Singer will not do the third "X-Men," even though he has an overall deal with Fox. -Besides the recent exit of helmer McG from the "Superman" project, producers Neal Moritz and Gilbert Adler have apparently disappeared from the scene as well. The fate of Jon Peters also is up in the air. -The studio apparently scrapped a J.J. Abrams script that WB once was high on. -The studio tapped Australia as a reasonably priced shooting location, with a budget said to be around $200 million, and wanted to put the franchise in the hands of Adler and Moritz. But Moritz's deal was never made and it's uncertain whether Adler, who did have a deal, will remain involved. -The WMA-repped Singer also is said to have a new take on the pic. Before his involvement, it was to revolve around Superman's battle with Lex Luthor and a mysterious figure from Krypton who has come to hunt down the Man of Steel. -"My interest in Superman dates back many, many years," Singer said. "In fact, it was the Richard Donner classic film that was my day-to-day inspiration in shaping the X-Men universe for the screen. I feel that Superman has been late in his return and it is time for him to fly again."

  • July 19, 2004, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Jdaniel is Really McG. the dumbass

    by Rcamacho2278

    Never make movies. NEVER.

  • July 19, 2004, 12:45 a.m. CST

    JDanielP, you need to know something.

    by one9deuce

    I'm guessing you are around 15, so here is a little advice. Nobody is going to give you an opportunity. Period. It won't happen, so the sooner you quit wishing it will by posting ideas in a talkback forum the better. You see, a job opening for a director that hasn't directed anything doesn't exist. What you need to do is create the position, and then hire yourself. Buy a digital editing system, buy a video camera, start taking film courses, watch DVD bonus materials, read about film in books and the internet, and MOST IMPORTANTLY......make films! Keep making short films with your friends, family, classmates and anyone else you can recruit. And then all of a sudden one day it's possible you will find that you are very skilled. Then try to make a low budget feature, or a high budget short film to get noticed. Maybe then, somebody will hire you for THEIR independent film, or a television show maybe. Good luck, you will need a little. But mostly it is in your hands. As far as Superman is concerned, I want great visuals and unbelievable action set pieces made believable. These are not Bryan Singer's strengths. Let us at least hope he is semi-faithful. I think WB is making a mistake with this creative team. They are definately playing to their strengths: making blunders. Oh well.

  • July 19, 2004, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Superman:Luthor for President FREE DVD

    by ocdproductions

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  • July 19, 2004, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Makes since...

    by Jack Ryder

    For Singer and co. to leave a hot franchise just before what will probably be the final film, to jump on the shaky ground that is the long time cursed Superman team. Nice to see how Harry's forgotten how he championed JJ's script.

  • July 19, 2004, 1:31 a.m. CST

    The Tao of Joe - Once again.....

    by chilli_at_bobs

    Once again, I didn't ask your opinion. What don't you understand? I don't care what you think, I doubt that anyone here does. Try to understand that when anyone posts anything here, it's an opinion. No one is asking you to agree, and no one is making you accept it. If you want to respond, then generalize your response like everyone else. In the long run you're actually doing yourself a favor. It seems like everytime you try to ascert a point - you end up sticking your foot in your mouth. As for your most recent comments, once again, a rampant case of "foot in mouth" disease. Your point of my projected insanity for an issue by issue play of X-men. need to stop listening to those voices inside your head. Go back and read my post, all I said was that the movie were not as linear as the comics. Do understand the context of words coming out of my mouth, obviously not. As for you arguement of an apples to orange difference in mediums - do you truly understand the the ignorance of your arguement. Comics are the derivative of the movie. They are the story. If you change the story, well then you no longer have movie based upon the comic. Your comparrison of apples and oranges could not be any further wrong. The proper anology would be seed, to tree, to fruitation. And if you don't undestand these things, there's a reason. Now stop bothering me, I never asked your opinion. I don't care about your opinion. Keep it to yourself or learn to generalize your answers. Hundreds of people can do, why can't you.

  • July 19, 2004, 3:43 a.m. CST

    Boring or not, if done right, Superman will be the BEST superher

    by DarthBakpao

    Even by today standard, Donner's Superman still ranks on top lists of superhero movie. imagine what could we have with today advanced technology to create those super battles! NOW GET CAVIEZEL FOR SUPERMAN damn it!!! C-A-V-I-E-Z-E-L!! imagine a Bale's Batman VS Caviezel's Superman movie!

  • July 19, 2004, 3:46 a.m. CST

    let me second that : CAVIEZEL IS SUPERMAN!

    by DarthBakpao

    come on WB!

  • July 19, 2004, 6:35 a.m. CST

    I hope they shoot the exteriors in NY like the original film and

    by Spacesheik

    Oh shit, Singer will prolly shoot this in Toronto...

  • July 19, 2004, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Great...Will Superman's dad be fleeing from Nazi Guards with Bab

    by Mr. Profit

    Singer is extremely overrated. His films lack any visual style. X2 was an improvement on X1, but for a 135 million dollar pic, it had the visual look of a Superstation Original Film. How did the Texas Chainsaw remake look more expensive? Brian get a new Cinematographer STAT. The XMen films should have kicked the 1st Matrix films' ass. But they stay sub-par. And onto another gripe, the XMen always punk out in his films and defer to Wolverine to get help. Whatever.... I just hope he doesn't mess up the biggest superhero icon of our times with a wack movie. And if Anna Paquin turns up as Lois Lane I wont go see this film. How come Warner's can only get the Harry Potter series right but craps on all DC properties?

  • July 19, 2004, 9:40 a.m. CST

    One9duece you have to admit ONE thing tho

    by Rcamacho2278

    The bryan singer team is way better than the mcG team and the direction THAT was headed.

  • July 19, 2004, 11:10 a.m. CST

    You assclowns are PATHETIC

    by Snookeroo

    This is the BEST news EVER regarding the trainwreck-that-was-to be SUPERMAN movie, and all you butt-buddies can do is BITCH AND MOAN about it?? Thank God the WB has come to their senses and have decided to make this the great film it deserves to be. There is NO pleasing you bunch of tools.

  • July 19, 2004, 11:29 a.m. CST

    If you are not doing X3 Bryan Singer then this is HORRIBLE NEWS!

    by tile_mcgillus

    Hmmm a proven movie series that is YOUR baby, with world renowned actors at your beckon call, that fans love OR a movie that has failed to get made for the last decade and cycles through directors like Harry through diapers? Thats a toughie. Make X3 first then let someone else make a Wolverine movie while you do Superman and then possibly X4. Wow that tough to figure out.

  • July 19, 2004, 12:31 p.m. CST

    "Oh my God!" "No,...Zod!"

    by Gusbuf

    Hoping to see the geriatric return of General Zod and his two cronies.

  • July 19, 2004, 12:35 p.m. CST

    They stole my idea...

    by MelodicJimmy

    I wrote a script called "Superman: The Return" about two and a half years ago. It was a direct sequel to the Christopher Reeve movies and it involved Superman going away for a period of time and returning. I put it on the net after I wrote it for people to give me comments... someone MUST have seen it... Here's the link: The script is EXACTLY like the story they're going to use and it's almost the same EXACT title. What the fuck...

  • July 19, 2004, 1:57 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Profit

    Hey man, next time go to the writers guild and register your idea with them. It's only 10 bucks and they save your info for a couple of years. Here's the link Also it's pretty hard to make a direct sequel to a property owned by someone else. I went to a writing seminar and my teacher told me to avoid writing sequels to established properties until you have become successful and the studio approached you first. Your best bet in the future would be to channel all of your energy in making an original script. Lot's of times, if you are writing a sequel to a film like Superman, and WB takes your idea and pays you for it, the finished product may not even look like what you wrote because these films are constantly re-written as they are filming. It sucks that they may have took your idea. But you can't trust the internet. You never really know who is who and if a studio head is online trying to jack people for ideas.

  • July 19, 2004, 3:50 p.m. CST

    singer superman = black leather costume

    by paulyd30

    o man as a big blue fan, I am scared right now out of my superman underroos "you cant just cant do yellow spandeX" says brian singer... WTF to me this is waht makes the X-men their awesome costumes something X-men 1&2 are lacking Big time!!! Brian singer will not be able to make this work with supes clasic costume and will not give the earth's most popular super hero his just due !! Thank God Sam Rammi didnt feel this way about red and blue spandex for spider man !! the first two donner superman movies and spider man movies are the best comic book films to date .. Nuff said

  • July 19, 2004, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Supes & GL

    by Cl_Kilgore

    I hope this Superman rumor is true. Although, I also want Singer to do X3 soon. I think Singer would do a great job. Oh, and the GL/Jack Black rumors are false. Mark my words. No way.

  • July 19, 2004, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Supes & GL

    by Cl_Kilgore

    I hope this Superman rumor is true. Although, I also want Singer to do X3 soon. I think Singer would do a great job. Oh, and the GL/Jack Black rumors are false. Mark my words. No way.

  • July 19, 2004, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Singer Is Making a Mistake, I Believe

    by Barron34

    *****Singer should have arranged to make X-Men 3 before this Superman movie. It would not have been difficult to do. I bet Warners really wanted him a lot for Superman, and likewise Fox would be very unhappy to lose Singer for the third X-movie. Singer has enough power in such a case to dictate his own schedule. In such a case, Singer could have simply moved X-Men 3 up to be his next film, and then gone right into Superman after he is done shooting X3. It would make sense both creatively and for business reasons for Singer to do X3. *****To begin with, Singer has all of the X-Men actors poised to do the third film with him. By abandoning the X-Men movie to do another film in the same genre, it is almost disrespectful to the actors and others he has established this working relationship with. I would venture to say that it might come off as unprofessional and disrespectful, and that such a move would erode Singer's reputation in the industry rather than enhance it. Certainly his actors from the X-Men films will be disappointed. Yet, I don't think Singer would ever intend to be disrespectful or unprofessional; I suspect that what happened is that he got caught up in heated negotiations with Warners over Logan's Run and Fox with X-3. Probably Fox was pressuring him to do X-3 before Logan's Run, and Warners responded by playing hardball and offering better deals, which led to Singer ultimately being offered Superman. Singer then jumped at the chance to do Superman (what director wouldn't?). But by jumping at Superman, Singer was denying his natural momentum, which would be to do at least one more X-Men film, at least to pay-off all of his work on the first two films. *****The first two films naturally set up for a climactic third movie, and for Singer to fail to make that great and final third film is ultimately a creative failure and a career failure. That third, concluding film will never be made, and will not be part of his legacy. Singer has run off chasing a shinier fish (the Superman movie) before he has reeled in the one he already has on his line (a complete X-Men trilogy). It is understandable that he got drawn away by the allure of a Superman movie, but it is unfortunate that in doing so he is abbreviating his work on the X-Men, which was logically leading to a resounding third film that is never going to be shot (no other director can finsih Singers own work. A third X-Men film will be made, but it will never be a Third Act to match to Singer's first two movies. It will simply be another movie, a seperate entity, by another director with a different style and vision. That is a shame. Singer owned the X-Men on film, and without at least one more movie, his work there will always remain incomplete). *****I think Bryan Singer is doing a disservice to himself by not trying to make a third X-Men film. He made the X-Men films successful, but the success of the X-Men films made him, in turn. He should see the films through to their logical end. It would make the fans happy, the actors happy, the studio happy, and ultimately, I would expect, it would make Singer happy. There needs to be a resounding conclusion, a third Bryan Singer X-Men movie, to complete the great drama Singer set up in the first two films. To leave everyone hanging is the dramatic equivalent of coitus interruptus. Aristotle knew what he was talking about when he explained that every story has a Beginning (Act One), a Middle (Act Two) and an End (Act Three). Singer has created two great movies that are the first two acts in a great three-act arc, and now he is leaving us all hanging. And so he is really cheating himself, because he is robbing himself of the dramatic and creative pay-off of doing that third film and having a complete three film arc as a part of his legacy. The first two films will stand as a partial, incomplete success, because they set up drama and stroy that was never properly paid off by the third film. Of course, some other director will be brought in, and their will be an X-Men 3, but the total effect will be disjointed, even if X-3 is a good movie. It will be a different movie by a different director, and so it will not be of a piece. *****And that is too bad, because Singer could probably have arranged to do BOTH movies: the Superman film and the third X-Men film. He simply could have insisted to Warners that he do one final X-Men film for Fox before he went in to do Superman. Then Singer could have finished what he started, and then passed the X-Men mythos off to someone else after he finished third X-film. After the natural dramatic conclusion of Singer's X-Men films, it would then be clear for another director to come in and start their own vision of the X-Men; Singer's vision would have been completed. Singer could have had his cake and eaten it too. He could have made a thrid X-Men movie AND a Superman movie. Of course, there is also no guarantee that Singer's Superman will succeed. I hope it does. Singer is a talented director, and Superman is a great character, with a great story with a great history. And Singer is infinitely preferable to directors like McG or Rattner, who would have ruined a Superman film. I am confident that Singer CAN make a good Superman film. I just wish that he finished his work on his first superhero story before jumping into an entirely different one.

  • July 19, 2004, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Gee, ... it sure brightens one's day to get insulted (cough, Rca

    by JDanielP

    Add another 15 years, then some more. Yeah. Pathetic, I know. I'm married, raising a family now. But I'm still a comic book and movie geek. And fantasy and sci-fi are what I enjoy most ... but there's just not enough of it in the movies. That is, not enough QUALITY fantasy and sci-fi movies, today ... or ever. -- And I realize that I won't ever get an opportunity to direct a single movie ... even though it's been my #1 dream since I was a child. When I was teenager, I chose to be "realistic" about the future, and chose NOT to pursue my dreams. The funny thing is, had I never been on this path I've taken, I never would have met my wife. A bit of a fluke, really, ... because Batman (specifically) made it possible. But that's a long story. Anyway, ... I still dream of making movies. And I do honestly believe I would prove to be one of the world's leading fantasy film movie directors if I had such an opportunity. But yeah, ... the world doesn't work that way and no studio would give me a shot.

  • July 19, 2004, 5:12 p.m. CST


    by diablo rising

    THATS ALL YOU NEED TO HEAR FOR NOW bc for superdick would do me fine

  • July 19, 2004, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Superman is the best and like one fellow talkbacker said " TOP O

    by super Cucaracha

    and it makes sense for Mr.Singer to go with the best. I don't understand some of you. This is one of the best news to come out for a while and you still have to bitch about something. SUPERMAN LIVES MOTHERFUCKERS!

  • July 19, 2004, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Singer is soooooo overrated

    by slone13

    Let him have Superman. Give the X franchise to someone who respects it.

  • July 19, 2004, 6:35 p.m. CST


    by super Cucaracha

    nuff said.

  • July 19, 2004, 7:42 p.m. CST

    who is the director????

    by Rupee88

    All I see is that Bryan Singer is writing the film or help to write it. I don't see anything about who the director is or even discussion of such.

  • July 19, 2004, 8:25 p.m. CST

    The Donner Films Blew

    by tensticks

    Actually, I don't think that at all, but I'm so used to the cynical fanboys out there complaining about EVERYTHING, I was so surprised that no one had bothered to express this sentiment, that I thought I'd provide it myself. *shrugs* sue me.

  • July 19, 2004, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Too bad for Superman, but maybe X3 will actually not suck.

    by acid_casualty

    Hopefully they'll get someone GOOD to direct X3. I'd like to see some actual character development. X-Men and X2 were total snoozers. I could care less about the characters and there was no drama.

  • July 19, 2004, 10:57 p.m. CST

    Mr. Profit...

    by MelodicJimmy

    Thanks for the advice. Yeah, I've written an original screenplay. It's a supernatural thriller reminiscent of The Sixth Sense with elements of "The Prophecy" and traces of "The Crow". Sometimes, I just write fan fiction to develop certain techniques in writing. Writing fan fiction is cool sometimes because you don't have to think about CREATING characters because they're pretty much already established from the source material. So, I write fan fiction sometimes just to hone certain skills in writing. Anyway, thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it. :)

  • July 19, 2004, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Superman vs Lex Luthor

    by WoodyStiffer

    Seems kind of lame. How about CGI up the ass and Superman vs. Doomsday?

  • July 19, 2004, 11:11 p.m. CST

    singer's on my shitlist

    by Dr Farragammo

    This really blows. I hoped it would be a rumor, but nope, it's all over variety, e, cnn, and beyond. What really sucks about this is this could seriously have effects on the cast. A lot of them might walk or lose intrest if they feel like their core team has deserted them. You KNOW Arad, Shuller-Donner and the other heads of marvel and fox are SERIOUSLY pissed about this. He should have stayed on for the 3rd movie and that's that. This is really underhanded, not to mention lame. leaving one fanchise to do another comic hero? real versatile , singer. you breathed life and credibility into (in my opinion) 2 of the best comic book adaptations out there. Do I think Superman will be a good movie? Absolutely. But characterwise, mythology wise, and sheer depth of material wise, xmen is the one to beat. And we don't have just a trilogy on our hands people. Xmen has enough characters, storylines, and dramatic themes to go through a 007-length film franchise. I'd hate to see it wrecked by a half wit like the hack who did daredevil (and now ghost rider), kevin shitbomb smith, schumaker, barbershop/taxi turd, or a haphazard treatment by anybody else. ooooh i wish it were all a bad dream.

  • July 19, 2004, 11:37 p.m. CST

    anger, denial, then acceptance

    by Dr Farragammo

    allright after my tirade and disapointment , time to face the facts. X3 will be sans/ Singer and the screenwriting team. Does this doom it? Not necessarily but we all know the likelihood of studio (bone)heads making me horrible decisions regarding comic adaptations. handing of the torches are raely smooth. But here's a few who(realistic choices here only) might be able to pull it off : (in no particualr order) David Fincher Ridley Scott(doubt he'd do it) Gore Verbinski Doug Liman Danny Boyle You figure they'll pick someone offbeat , plus these are talented, versatile directors. Of course they'll probably go with Mark Steven Johnson!! I swear that guy will be the death of comic book films (along with production oversaturation) Go back to grumpier old men and simon birch, you hack!! Damn you singer, damn you all to hell!!!!!

  • July 20, 2004, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Batman Returns

    by hogieBENpeirogie

    What - did Batman LEAVE Gotham City between the fist 2 movies, and then had to RETURN? I guess I missed that. Maybe it is on the DVD. You all kill me, and JDanielP needs an enema.

  • July 20, 2004, 2:11 a.m. CST

    Batman Returns

    by hogieBENpeirogie

    What - did Batman LEAVE Gotham City between the first 2 movies, and then had to RETURN? I guess I missed that. Maybe it is on the DVD. You all kill me, and JDanielP needs an enema.

  • July 20, 2004, 7:30 a.m. CST

    billy crudup does look like superman!

    by DarthBakpao

    in fact, he looks more like superman than caviezel ... only one problem, he's TOO SHORT! maybe they can apply those 'taller' gandalf effect in LotR at him. if not, i'll stick with caviezel. CAVIEZEL is SUPERMAN!

  • July 20, 2004, 3:53 p.m. CST


    by JDanielP

  • July 20, 2004, 5:56 p.m. CST

    At this point, fuck Superman. I'd MUCH rather see him stick aro

    by minderbinder

  • July 20, 2004, 6:37 p.m. CST

    who will direct??

    by Dr Farragammo

    I've added a few ideas : Danny Boyle, Gore Verbinski, Doug Liman, Ridley Scott, David Fincher. I've thought of a few more : Terry Gilliam Sam Mendes , great character development, road to perdtion had great action and suspense David O. Russell Soderberg how bout the guy who did city of god?? WHO I DONT WANT : Rodriguez, Bay, Columbus, Mark Steven Johnson!!!! McG Ratner Joel Schumaker, Burton, Kevin Smith. But what about the screenwriter's? That's the most important piece of the puzzle. as for superman, you know 2 guys who are now a bit too old, but I always thought would make a great superhero (the hair, the jaw) Kyle Machlaclan, and Bruce Campbell!

  • July 20, 2004, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Superman Casting

    by SPlissken

    I can see it now... Superman: Hugh Jackman Lois Lane: Famke Janssen Lex Luthor: Patrick Stewart Jimmy Olsen: Shawn Ashmore Jor El: Ian McKellen Perry White: Brian Cox Lana Lang: Rebecca Romjin-Stamos

  • July 20, 2004, 9:56 p.m. CST

    LT_92122 is right -- Superman did *NOT* "turn back time"

    by Immortal_Fish

    The answer lies in the logic. To be freed from Luthor's kryptonite amulet, Supes promises Eve (Valerie Perrine) that he'll save her aunt. If he "turned back time" to save Olsen and Lane, then logic dictates that he would have undone his resuce of Eve's aunt in order to save them. The only way he could have saved them all were to travel backward in time. Haven't any of you seen a hubcap or a fan spin in an opposite direction than you know it's spinning?

  • July 20, 2004, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Superman Returns...

    by AJE

    Well, I was really thrilled when JJ Abrams was at the helm of this, now it's going to be a $200 million steaming pile. Anything done with Superman should be independent of the originals. They simply weren't good films... any of them. I had faith with Abrams, now with Singer, I'm not so sure it'll live up to the hype. Personally, I'd love to see Abrams write/direct it... or if need be, Abrams write and Raimi direct.

  • July 21, 2004, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Do you realize what this means?!?!?! JOHN WILLIAMS SCORE WILL BE

    by Cruel Shoes

    Aside from a director with more than 3 letters in his pseudo-hip name, all I wanted from a new Superman movie was a piece a music that ranks up there with Beethoven's 9th.

  • July 21, 2004, 10:01 a.m. CST

    We have the technology to make Christopher Reeve fly again as Su

    by JDanielP

    I just can't say enough about what's possible for the future Superman movies.

  • July 23, 2004, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Singer directing Superman is WIN-WIN situation

    by spiritsoul

    Couldn't be happier that Bryan Singer will be directing Superman instead of X3. X-Men films at best only above average, and in X2 only the opening sequence had any real merit, so no tears for Singer and team moving on. Hope that Fox has the good sense this time to hire a director/team who have some knowledge/empathy of the mutant team, that can do justice to what is arguably one of X-Men's (and even Marvel's) most important storylines - the Dark Pheonix saga.. If they're brave enough to assemble a new cast (easy reader, breathe!), then X-fans might finally have a movie worthy of bearing the name, one that could even rival Raimi's excellent adaptation of the friendly neighourhood Spiderman. As for Supes, his return to will benefit from Singer (talented, but obviously justdidn't get it - unlike Sam R, Bryan wasn't a fan); A straightforward storyline and character arc, and the opportunity to pull of massive stunts and special effects should allow our Bryan to deliver a fantastic blockbuster. And we can dust of script of X-sequels (X4-Forge/Storm?) with renewed hope. Cheers and Hooray

  • July 23, 2004, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Superman can suck my balls

    by Steve Rogers

    He had his fucking movies, and half of them were SHIT. The first one is seriously over-rated too (turning the Earth backwards - fuck off!). I can't believe Singer has abandoned the X-Men for this. Fucking unbelievable. Just when you thought we were going to get a fantastic comic book trilogy with the X-Men. I couldn't give two shits about Superman. The character and his comics suck ass. Is all down to Sam Raimi now I guess...