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Trailer time! Schumacher's PHANTOM OF THE OPERA and Bruckheimer/Cage flick NATIONAL TREASURE!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a coupla trailers for your viewing pleasure. First up is the much anticapted film adaptation of Andrew Lloyd Webber's PHANTOM OF THE OPERA from director Joel Schumacher. No matter how many BATMAN & ROBINs he turns out, I'll always give him the benefit of the doubt because of three films he directed that I personally love. FALLING DOWN is a classic. FIGHT CLUB before FIGHT CLUB was FIGHT CLUB. THE LOST BOYS holds so much nostalgic appeal to me it's not even funny. D.C. CAB... well, it has Mr. T in his hey-day and one of the weirdest casts of any film ever... Mr. T, Bill Maher and Scarey Busey in one film?!?
Anyway, take a look at the first trailer for the musical over at Moviefone!
CLICK IT HERE, YOU HORNY, DEFORMED CREATURES OF THE NIGHT!!!
I don't know about you, but I kinda like it. Looks like he's going for a MOULIN ROUGE feel, which I'm not sure is going to work... But I've seen the play and really dig the music, so I'll be looking forward to seeing Schumacher's take on it.
Next up we have the newest Jerry Bruckheimer action picture called NATIONAL TREASURE starring Nicolas Cage, Helen of Troy, Sean Bean and Jon Voight. Sean Bean is one of my favorite working actors, so I'm up for seeing anything he's in. From the trailer, the film looks to be typical Bruckheimer popcorn entertainment, but if it's a fun movie to watch, then I won't have any problem with it. Check out the trailer yourself over at the official site:
CLICK IT HERE FOR EXPLOSIONS AND THAT FROZEN IN TIME HAIRLINE!!!
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Very Schumarcherish, AWOOOOH!!
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I actually laughed at that one liner. Kinda the same way that Schumacher was laughing at any potential audience for that film.
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Why are the freemasons so popular in movies these days...
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Because we control the movies! Ahh... I mean they control the movies! AHH, I mean.. They don't exist.
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What a stupid way to edit a trailer. The film looks like it would be good, so why hack it up like that? What happened to trailers that give you an idea of what the story is?
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The Phantom is a musical right? I'm asking this cause there isn't any singing in the entire clip. If this is a teaser, why not make it more interesting by showing one scene instead of doing a Mission Impossible and showing us the whole story in one minute.
National Treasure looks okay. The site on the other hand is a real knock out. Damm, they really invested a lot of time in that. -
They didn't need to show anyone actually singing. Anyone who's really going to see this movie (though there might be a few hangers-on and people interested because of the name) is already a fan of the musical and recognized the music playing throughout the trailer from the show itself. I admit that the editing was a bit choppy, but damn if it doesn't look like Schumacher might have gotten this film right.
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there we go ;)
Phatom:
http://progressive.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2004/phantomoftheoperathe_019465/phantomoftheoperathe_trlr_dl.mov
National Treasure:
http://bvim-qt.vitalstream.com/NationalTreasure/NationalTreasure_T1_5309D_3000.mov
for small qualitys, change the 3000 at the end to '1500', '0750' or '0300'
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Jun 27, 2004 8:43:58 AM CDT
they showed the phantom trailer in front of Fahrenheit this week
by inkymae
And without a single word being said, everyone started to laugh out loud. Schumacher has a reputation now as the most successful bad director in history.
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Well, I can tell you what the first trailer is supposed to be: An overture. If you've ever seen one of those big epics from the fifties or sixties, you'll have encounter one of them, basically a summation of all the themes of the piece. Now what make this interesting, is that it is most appropriately a device for theatrical works, like operas, musicals, and ballets. So, for a movie based on a popular musical, it's a brilliant and canny choice. And essentially the shots in the trailer serve as a visual overture to the film. As for National Treasure, I have to give these guys credit for putting forward one of the most original concepts for a movie I've ever heard of. I really wish Hollywood would do that more often. I can say I'm interested in what they're doing with it.
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National Treasure's concept is ripped directly out from every single tired Illuminati/all-seeing-eye/world conspiracy theory on the internet, and from a million cheesy airport book variations on the same theme. The latest being The Da Vinci Code (which this trailer steals from liberally). Sadly, an Illuminati movie could have been done as a great Raiders style adventure movie, but it seems that no one will ever get the chance, now that Bruckheimer and his small Jewish dick are about to cheese up the genre forever with this trash.
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Both of these look like they are worth a look-see. I didn't think that I would be able to say that after two Batman movies and 8 MM. It looks like Schumacher is playing to his strengths, which is a good thing. National Treasure, dare I say, looks like fun.
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Bean gets my butt in a seat NO MATTER WHAT. I despise Cage to an absurd degree, but this is still a must see. I think Phantom will be an alright movie, but that trailer was awful--really awful with all that quick editing that plagues most trailers these days.
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Am I the only one who found the voiceover on the National Treasure clip off-putting? And far too serious for what is obviously a goofy Bruckheimer-Cage cheesefest?
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Mel, you make an excellent point about all the tired variations on this theme (The Da Vinci Code is a terribly overrated piece of fluff), but you lose me with the crack about Bruckheimer's "small Jewish dick." Not quite sure what that has to do with anything; I've grown a bit weary of artist criticism that resorts to this sort of thing...
Yes, Bruckheimer is Jewish, and yes, Schumacher is Jewish and gay. So? Completely unrelated to either of those things, they also both make awful movies. Let's stick to that.
And Harry, I hate to rain on your parade, man, but come on... it's cool that you're nostalgic about The Lost Boys, but have you watched it recently? Horrible. And to compare the misguided and reactionary bullshit/pedestrian film-making of Falling Down in any way, shape or form to Fight Club has to be some kind of sin. Never saw D.C. Cab... and wouldn't.
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Alright, I'm excited now. Another craplicious Bruckheimer action flick, with inane storyline, and bad-overacting all around.
And while Shoemaker (b/c I hope he's better at making shoes than films) may have made FALLING DOWN, and ST. ELMOS FIRE (my favorite of the brat pack movies), he's a burnt out hack now, just working for a paycheck. He even managed to f-up a great performance by Cate Blanchett, and good storyline, with his piss poor directing in last year's VERONICA GUERRIN. -
Schumacher did not direct Fight Club, David Fincher did. I don't know what you're thinking.
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Well, it does say "Andrew Lloyd Webber's Phantom of the Opera." Since, you know, he's probably about the best-known musical-production guy of the late 20th century, most folks'll probably make the connection.
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I think, deacon1074, that Harry was comparing Schumacher's loathsome Falling Down to Fincher's Fight Club, saying that it was the Fight Club of its day... but that's a pretty inane comparison. I don't know what he's thinking either...
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Um, why would a buried Treasure need PROTECTING?
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...it's a secret conspiracy by the Illuminati, who are getting revenge because of Freemason Jan de Bont's scheme to undermine them in Lara Croft: The Cradle of Life and force them to disband out of sheer embarassment. Meanwhile, the Freemasons are scheming against Illuminatus Joel Schumacher - it's no coincidence that both Cradle and the upcoming Phantom of the Opera have Gerard Butler in it.
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Jun 27, 2004 11:27:44 AM CDT
"Saracasm" is that like a nickname for a really loose woman name
by regicidal_maniac
Yeah I'm bored, so I decided to pick on internet spelling.
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Jun 27, 2004 11:32:27 AM CDT
By the way, I know that Chasm is spelled chasm not casm, but it
by regicidal_maniac
Any and all of which is now completely drained by my own critical analysis.
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Does the Phantom's costume reveal his nipples?
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Man, I hope my post does not show up twice because I got the "white screen of death" when I clicked the Post button. Anyway, FarfrumWorkin makes a good point with the question posted. Does this buried treasure need protection because the gold standard has to be relocated periodically when treasure hunters/criminals might discover its whereabouts? Have we all been duped into believing the gold standard was eliminated, when actually America's currency collateral was being protected all along? If this is all possibly suggested by the team of writers on this movie, I'd say it is pretty highbrow for a Bruckheimer production. However, I would definitely accept even a small percentage of this release's gross box office receipts.
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That Phantom bit was a crappy trailer. I'm gonna see it, but I was planning on it anyway. What they showed looks cool, but the trailer itself is crappy.
National Treasure looks like fun. But who comes up with these secret society story lines? They're fun as all hell, but dude. A map on the back of the Declaration of Independence? The Constitution I'd buy, but not the Declaration. -
Jun 27, 2004 1:26:22 PM CDT
"Mel" is right that NATIONAL TREASURE is trying to catch DAVINCI
by frankdrebin
THE DAVINCI CODE has owned the bestseller list for the past 2 years, so you can bet we're gonna see plenty more ripoffs like NATIONAL TREASURE. (I just wasted $20 on one of them: THE RULE OF FOUR, an awful book that all the reviwers said was the next DAVINCI CODE.) Yes, I agree that Dan Brown's writing is very flawed (especially his first one, DIGITAL FORTRESS), but he's improving with each book. And, like John Grisham or Tom Clancy, he's creating a new sub-genre ("pseudo-historical crypto-thriller"?) with mass-market appeal. I just hope "DaVinci Fever" doesn't cool (nyuk-nyuk) before the movie version gets here. It'll be interesting to see how much of the religious content (or, religion-bashing, if you prefer) makes it into the final cut.
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is ther noone else who actually liked FLATLINERS?? ok, it utilized some blade-runner like production design and style...but the story and even the atmosphere and direction was pretty good i think...
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"Phantom" looks better then I thought it would. It was a good touch using the Overture throughout the trailer, but I wonder if it will actually stay intact and un-updated. I don't really care, I would prefer they make the movie music different from the show, otherwise what is the point?
As for "National Treasure", it looks insane and inventive. Could be a lot of fun. "The DaVinci Code" is an overwrought mess of a book that takes itself WAY too seriously. This looks similar but more like "The Mummy". I was happy to see that at no point were there supernatural creatures in the trailer, since all these treasure hunt movies lately seem to have them that was a nice omission.
Speaking of "DaVinci Code" is any else thinking this movie is going to be boring as hell? What did the book have, 1 maybe 2 action scenes? The rest of the book was various characters expounding page after page for the others about the various Grail legends. I'm thinking there is going to be a lot more action in the movie. Either that, or huge chunks will be flashbacks as they tell the story of the Grail.
I read Dan Brown's "Deception Point" a couple years ago and that was a far better book. Just as goofy and contrived, but a lot more fun and exciting. That one would make a great movie. -
Seriously, doesn't this movie look like it should debut on the Sci-Fi channel? Nicholas Cage looks extremely depressed in this trailer and I can see why. An Oscar winner and proven box office draw doing this eighth-rate Raiders knock-off? How much money do you need man? To quote an infinitely superior entertainment, how many yachts can you water ski behind? They should send this one straight to video where they might at least con $1.50 out of me on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday.
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I like National Treasure. Looks good. Not every movie has to be citizen kane. don't u assholes like to be just entertained sometimes? i mean i guess you like to leave the movies depressed and shit all the time? and since you watch alot of movies some of you guys must never be happy. just go watch the movie and be entertained. don't think during it and youll have fun.
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...remember that Bruckheimer also produced "The Culpepper Cattle Co." (a classic revisionist Western), "Defiance" (a hard-ass John Flynn flick), and "Thief" (Michael Mann's excellent crime film).
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Close your eyes at the part where the director's revealed and the Phantom has a pretty dramatic and impressive trailer. You can chalk that up partially to the fact that it's one of the best musical scores ever made, but the quick-cut visuals were undisputedly intriguing. He should at the very least be able to pull off the Masquerade scene, and that's one of the highlights of the original show.
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What the fuck?!?! it looks like that crappy ass "TOMB RAIDER" movie....check off the list
1) similar movie font
2) Jon Voight being piss
3) treasure hunting
4) SHIT FILM
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Jun 27, 2004 5:18:29 PM CDT
Nono, BadTaste. He meant that "Falling Down" is sort of the "Fig
by lenny nero
It confused me, too, for a second. Quint just phrased it poorly.
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Phantom looks good, I didnt realize it was Joel behind the lens. Just hearing the score but much of the doubts at ease. Good stuff, apparently wasted on AICN.
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Jun 27, 2004 6:44:38 PM CDT
They would be smart to downplay the fact that Joel Schumacher di
by doc_mccoy
The entire theater *groaned* when Joel Schumacher's name came up on the screen. How can an audience be expected to take an attempted artsy/prestige flick seriously when it was the work of the same guy who brought them BATMAN & ROBIN, BAD COMPANY, and 8MM? I'm pretty sure they also groaned when they realized it was a PHANTOM OF THE OPERA remake -- not a story people are particularly excited to see yet again.
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Jun 27, 2004 7:36:29 PM CDT
I couldn't tell, but did Schumacher make sure there were rubber
by big bad clone
"From the director of Batman & Robin and the writer of The Wiz...Wait, wait, come back!"
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Jun 27, 2004 7:45:11 PM CDT
"A treasure that has grown over centuries..." Who's fucking trea
by big bad clone
Benjamin Franklin Whatver on a pogo stick, what the fuck....I mean, it's fucking senseless! It actually looks like it would be fun, however, there is a gigantic fucking flaw in thie. Plus, am I the only one who thinks the Bible code and Da Vinci code is stupid shit. Give us a good movie about the British cracking the Nazi's enigma code or about the fucking rosetta stone. And Nicholas Cage, yes, I am happy you can work, but you should be rich enough to pick out challenging and good roles. More Matchstick Men (however flawed, it was) and less Con Air shit.
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Not very impressed with it, would have like to hear some talking to get a feel for it.
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Jun 27, 2004 8:11:42 PM CDT
Holy fish skin nosed one-handed bakers who clearly do not know h
by neosamurai85
Regicidal_Maniac
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Clearly
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Jun 27, 2004 8:22:34 PM CDT
Couldn't the National Treasure folks get the usual voice-over gu
by ernie_is_evil
Or was he out sick that day? It seems weird to have a chessy action film trailer without the usual mr voiceover running the lines.
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I didn't know that. I guess he's a better director than I thought cause that was a great film full of interesting ideas.
Did he really direct Fight Club?
Wow! Really?!
Anyone getting pissed yet?
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Jun 27, 2004 9:17:46 PM CDT
All that 'Phantom of the Opera' trailer gave me was an epileptic
by brokentusk
... and I also don't understand why they couldn't have used the normal voice-over guy for the 'National Treasure' trailer - this new guy sounds gay. Sean Bean is fucking brilliant.
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Seriously folks, one of the best musicals ever is just sitting there waiting for someone to make it into a movie. I assure you this movie version would be gold at the Box office not to metion the great visulas that could be achieved through the lens of someone like Burton. Think Sleepy Hollow meets The Barber of Seville, with massive throat cutting and pot pies made out of people!!! Yeah pretty gory but the story is awesome. Its a shame really, there havent been any really great musicals. The only other one I can think of is South Park which ironically was praised as the most original musical to date by Stephen Sondheim himself!
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Jerry has been absolutely aimless since his old production partner Don Simpson died from a penile implant operation. Man that guy had a nose for quality cheese, amongst other more powdery offerings. And regarding good history contorting plots, you cant go past neal stephensons cryptonomicon series, or even his baroque cycle series. But you would think taht Bruckheimer whould be much more suited to producing a trilogy based on Harry Turtledoves World War series, which describes World
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I think we can all confidently say that the Spongebob Musical will be bikini bottoms most amazing production this year!!!
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Jun 27, 2004 11:43:16 PM CDT
FALLING DOWN has almost nothing in common with FIGHT CLUB.
by mosquito march
The closest connection is that a guy in a white starch shirt ditches his office job and goes on a rampage. And, in that case, you should be saying that FALLING DOWN was "OFFICE SPACE before OFFICE SPACE was OFFICE SPACE". But, if you did say that, you'd still be an idiot, because, THEY'RE ALL TOTALLY DIFFERENT FUCKING MOVIES. Using your logic, you may as well say that FALLING DOWN was a rip off of NETWORK, for Christ's sake.
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There is a Sponge Bob Musical coming out?!?!? Yippee! And hell yeah South Park started it all. Fuck M.R.! The old film about Letrec rules and when ever I try and give it praise people think I
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Jun 28, 2004 12:20:21 AM CDT
What happened to all you motherfuckers who raved about PIRATES O
by mosquito march
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...that Schumacher did. That is all...
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Um... for the record... I'm still around and I liked Pirates... but lets see
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sorry, but schumacher has never made a good film, ever. combining his crappiness with andrew lloyd webber's different, but equally crappy, crappiness will result in a glistening metric ton of crappy crap crap. cocksuckers.
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bear with me. republicans are assholes that only care about money. people who only care about money don't deserve to live. republicans should be shot in the back of their fat selfish skulls. viva mr. soprano. delete this, motherfuckers.
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Jun 28, 2004 2:15:31 AM CDT
Cloudrider: a LOT of people on this site loved that piece of cra
by mosquito march
And, not just because of Depp's (one-note) performance. Where the hell were you when it came out, anyway?
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Fuckin' hardcore....
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Do you honestly believe the writers and director DIDN'T defer to Bruckheimer at the end of their working day?
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Movies based on the Turtledove World War books?? That would be interesting...no one would buy it tho. Did Don Simpson really die during a penile implant surgery??
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Ok, this is why I go to bed when I
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I was actually trying to get deleted there. maybe even banned.
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Jun 28, 2004 3:12:16 PM CDT
i bet anyone a dollar theres nipples on the phantom costume...
by satansteve
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This is so sad.....as far as musicals go Phantom is probably one of my favs......very dark and forboding, it gives itself to a rather intense story where most people can either relate to the phantom or Raul (in my life ive felt like both, as im sure most people have.)
In the hands of the right film maker this could be one of the classics of all time (and i FUCKING HATE modern musical movies!!!!!) But it goes to Mr. Batman and Robin himself, the biggest hack director next to Michael Bay, Joel Schumacher.
I will however give him credit....Lost Boys, A Time To Kill, and Falling Down where great movies.........but i think that was more a matter and good actors than a good director.
Now about that horrible trailer i just watched.
WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT????????
Is it a rule now that in order to make a musical it has to be over-produced, Mulon Rudge looking crap??? As if Chicago wasn't bad enough.
This looks aweful!! Instead of going for a very close, dark, forboding and intimate look that it should have had its HUGE! Giant musical numbers, really cheesy looking 80's music video style camera shots, and foggy filters......the whole trailer looks like a bryan adams video on VH1.
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PIRATES was repetitive and excruciatingly dull. Rather than simply swipe scenes from RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK (most notably the dinner/dress/knife scene between Rush and Knightley) the writers should have tried to emulate its pace and concise storytelling. I'm continually amazed how much Hollywood has forgotten since the INDY movies were released. I don't think we've had truly GREAT adventure movies since then. It's a shame, because, it's my favorite genre.
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Jun 28, 2004 4:51:39 PM CDT
Neosamurai85: Are you honestly telling me you don't know what it
by mosquito march
Perhaps you should stop watching stupid Joel Schumacher movies and bookmark the Webster's website. And, I never said you said PIRATES was "perfect". In fact, I wasn't talking to you at all, initially.
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Jun 28, 2004 7:05:02 PM CDT
Schumacher has made yet another stinker. In Hollywood, you are
by darth schlong
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Jun 28, 2004 7:19:32 PM CDT
Pirates DID kick ass...but I don''t see what that has to do with
by minderbinder
Pirates had about a billion folk working on it who were more talented tthan bruckheimer...and who really believes that great movies are because of the producer anyway??
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Jun 28, 2004 9:13:55 PM CDT
Holly illiterate insomniac split-personality posting craziness B
by neosamurai85
No, I do know perfectly well what defer means. I
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Hacked, sleep typing, or just plain trying to bullshit my way out of making a fool of myself, I
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Is he in this thing or not?
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I agree there should have been a little bit of singing in the trailer. As some-one who had an obsession with the play in my teens, this film seems to me like an utter catastrophe. Joel Shumacher couldn't direct a piss up in a brewery ( and I can't think of one film to make me think otherwise, the trailer was immensely cheesy (sounding like a $2.99 Best of the Musicals CD)and its starred in by people who look like they are just out of kindergarten (when has there been time for either of the leads to have the mysterious, troubled past to which the play alludes?. I would rather spend a bit more and go and see the play.
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come to Venice High School in West L.A. Mr. "I Killed Batman" himself contributes major dough for the school's spring musical, and always shows up on opening night.
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Get your facts straight.
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Jun 30, 2004 1:01:22 PM CDT
Don't forget the owner of Phantom could buy and sell a dozen Joe
by damitol
I'm just saying that as much as I dislike Schumacher as the choice to direct Phantom, I trust Andrew Lloyd Webber to protect his cash cow and make sure a good film is released. I've seen Phanton 2 or 3 times and love it's powerful score, and am looking forward to seeing it done as a real movie, rather than just a filming of the stage version. At the end of the day, whether the movie rules or sucks, we'll still have a great version of the score (no doubt supervised by Webber himself) in 5.1 surround when the DVD is released - and that is a good thing. P.S. - yes the teaser with all the jump cuts sucks, but I can't wait to see a proper trailer as some of shots do look interesting.
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Yay, another classic story ripped to shreds by the likes of hollywood. At least its not disney this time.....oh wait, its Schumacher, it's still gunna suck.
Can't wait to see if the phantom has rubber nipples on his costume or if the phantom turns out to be a crazy cyborg or some crap. You know it's gunna happen. Either that or they will try to turn it into a franchise with 2 sequels (i mean, you can cleverly abbrviate the title into "PotO", it needs sequels!!!) and uber-over-the-top product tie-ins. I dunno about anyone else but I'd be all over Phantom of the BREAKFAST CEREAL!!!! and Phatom of the PLASTIC LUNCH BOX (metal thermos not included). oh oh oh or PHANTOM: THE GAME (x-box exclusive ) how exciting a time to live in is this, huh? -
Jul 01, 2004 10:20:08 AM CDT
The Phantom of the Opera is the greatest stinking turd of a musi
by deadrapeddeer
because that's all you deserve if you see this crap-fest
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...just like Christopher Plummer says. If I'm guessing correctly, the secret location of the "National Treasure" can be glimpsed during the trailer. Three times, no less. Who needs a map - I hate trailers that give away the whole damn plotline.
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