June 23, 2004, 7:27 a.m. CST
...but notice the review didn't say that the characters and their emotions were what drove the movie. Raiders had all the geek love PLUS characters and situations that many people could connect with. I hope that the adventures of Sky Captain and Polly will be acted out by the kids of this and future generations, but it looks as if this movie will be seen as The Rocketeer done with an amazing amount of vision and heart.
June 23, 2004, 8:19 a.m. CST
You'll whine about anything, won't you (the collective you, I mean)? Too short, too long, too positive, too negative, poorly written, too many long words, too cerebral, too dumb, so long as you find SOMEthing to whine about. ------------ I'm really hopeful for Sky Captain, I can't watch the trailer without grinning from ear to ear.
June 23, 2004, 8:39 a.m. CST
by TheGinger Twit
June 23, 2004, 8:55 a.m. CST
still to my mind one of the best latter-day b-movies ever made. It's cheesy, it's sometimes crass and it's absolutely ridiculous. But most of all, tis fun.
June 23, 2004, 9:01 a.m. CST
by The Colonel
I miss Rushmore. I miss the seasons. Watching the leaves change. And I miss Affleck, now that he's gone: http://www.intrepidmedia.com/column.asp?id=1779
June 23, 2004, 9:31 a.m. CST
The King is dead. Long live the King!
June 23, 2004, 9:57 a.m. CST
June 23, 2004, 10:26 a.m. CST
Goddamn! There is truly no greater hive of Sloth and Ignorance than the AICN Talkbacks.
June 23, 2004, 10:27 a.m. CST
Love the review, Moriarty. Though I must say again that I scanned it pretty fast, so as to not be too spoiled, but I'm so glad that the film is shaping into something special. I knew it would be, and my gosh, I hope Jude promotes it. He invested in this film when it was merely an idea, convinced his friends to join him, and from what I've read about it, has produced a wonderful fantasy film. He's so dashing, you would think we would have seen him in the heroic role before, but no, not Jude. He doesn't want to be cornered, but "Sky Captain" sounds so different, I don't think he runs the risk here. I know he was a hero in "Enemy at the Gates," but that was more fabricated. He didn't want that. Joe sounds like he is a perfect hero, dashing and beautiful, courageous and psyched. I think I love him.
June 23, 2004, 10:57 a.m. CST
to read that Moriarty is going to review 'Bukowski: Born Into This' (I'm already going to see 'The Life Aquatic' and I'm going to need a consensus from the critics re. 'Sky Captain' if I'm going to invest the time and cake). Here's what you do, reread a few chapters of your favorite Bukowski book -or do whatever it takes to invoke the man's undying spirit- and deftly lug a flask of your favorite beverage in the side pocket of your cargo shorts into the theater. Settle in. Have a drink with the man. It's better than watching 'Jaws' on a beach.
June 23, 2004, 11:03 a.m. CST
For someone who is writing screenplays, the fact that this: "Because what they
June 23, 2004, 11:15 a.m. CST
Think about it: if you're representing the way people talk, you're better served by a good ear for *how people talk* than by a strong sense of grammar. Movie reviews, sure, but this is still the internet, where the final draft is the first draft. Ain't it Cool isn't exactly a refereed journal.
June 23, 2004, 11:45 a.m. CST
You gave away the biggest spoiler of the whole movie. No way was his a paid-for review.
June 23, 2004, 12:01 p.m. CST
June 23, 2004, 12:47 p.m. CST
by Joe Cool #2
Visually, it was great, but Mori's right; it completely failed to capture the essence of Lamont Cranston's world apart from looking stylish. If you really want to enjoy those stories, just throw on some of the old radio-play recordings with Orson Welles, and drink in the atmosphere that follows. (You can even picture Penelope Ann Miller every time Margo Lane talks if you want. I'll admit, I do have to thank the movie version for THAT.)
June 23, 2004, 1:15 p.m. CST
by Shaner Jedi
ILM worked on 157 shots for the Underwater battle in the film. Their work was supervised by Tim Alexander.
June 23, 2004, 1:31 p.m. CST
by BRING IT ON!
June 23, 2004, 1:33 p.m. CST
God, I want to see this movie.
June 23, 2004, 2:27 p.m. CST
I refuse to see it until I know if it's got it's own music. I refuse to see it if the movie steals the Stargate music like the trailer did. Otherwise maybe.
June 23, 2004, 3:23 p.m. CST
it was on an old warner brothers cartoon, a team of divers look for the jaguar shark the whole episode until they find it at the end.....it might of ben something else but i belive thats what it was
June 23, 2004, 3:40 p.m. CST
Its got big robots, 50s style sci-fi, dogfighting (I mean airplanes, not pitbulls heh), and Angelina in tight fit clothing and with an eyepatch fap, fap fapp,.... Im definatley interested in seeing it, but I think this thing is gonna booommb. It looks too artsy, sorta complicated for average moviegoers. No sequels I dont think, sorrry.
June 23, 2004, 4:20 p.m. CST
by Bouncy X
i hope u were being sarcastic ...cuz you do realize that many, many, many...hell MOST movie trailers use music taken from other movies right?
June 23, 2004, 4:32 p.m. CST
by Shaner Jedi
....most trailers use music lifted from other films. Happens all the time on studio films.
June 23, 2004, 4:42 p.m. CST
I've got to go jerk off in the server room of Terminal builing A3! It`s a dream come true!
June 23, 2004, 4:56 p.m. CST
Olivier! Fucking Lawrence Olivier! Is in this movie, how have I never heard this before, I would think this is a big fucking deal! I like exclamation points!!! I just officially bought a ticket to see Sky Captain!!! I'm wearing Ladies underpants!!! Tinky Winky is not gay!!!
June 23, 2004, 8:35 p.m. CST
"Because what they
June 23, 2004, 10:11 p.m. CST
Yes, it is perfectly acceptable to begin a sentence with the word because, but only in certain cases. A clause beginning with "because" is necessarily dependent on another clause, so the clause on which it depends must be included in the sentence. For example: "Because you were egregiously mistaken, I was compelled to correct you." is a grammatically correct sentence, as the clause on which "Because you were egregiously mistaken" depends ("I was compelled to correct you") is included in the sentence. On the other hand, "Because you were egregiously mistaken." is not a grammatically correct since the clause on which it depends has been separated from it.
June 24, 2004, 3:51 a.m. CST
I hope Sky Captain works. I have always loved that Art Deco look. I loved the way that people in the 30-50s saw the future as somethink clean, wounderous and beatiful unlike out jadded view that it will be dirty, oppresive and sinister. I always wished they would do a Flash Gordon film based on the original art work and finally wipe away the memory of that horrible 80's shclock-fest.
June 24, 2004, 6:51 a.m. CST
Same with Dick Tracy and ESPECIALLY with The Phantom. All 3 films should be written off as bastardisations of their original source material and banished to the realms of forbidden cinema where i hear batman and robin dwell. But in what they wanted to achieve, the entertaining part, it works out one way or the other. Like The Matrix sequels, either disconnect your brain or take drugs and you'll have a great time. That's why i stick with "best latter-day b-movie EVER".
June 24, 2004, 9:19 a.m. CST
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June 24, 2004, 10:15 a.m. CST
The point is that once you have well-deserved confidence, you can play with the language. You can ignore certain grammatical rules. You can end a sentence with a preposition. You can use a dependent clause as a whole sentence. You can run a sentence on. (See, I just ended on a preposition.) You can do all kinds of things and have your (free thinking) readers agree that the result you obtained was worth violating a few rules. For example, if you are writing to replicate the cadence of conversational speech, you might use the period to create a pause. If that means the period leaves you with half a proper sentence as a whole sentence, so be it. Just pick up any piece of respected literature. Heck, even respected journalistic publications such as the Wall Street Journal will deviate from the rules of grammar if it means a more engaging or readable passage. The rules of grammar are merely "fail safes" or "idiot proofing" for kids to use before they learn good judgment about what is worth trying to get away with and what is just laziness or ignorance.
June 24, 2004, 10:22 a.m. CST
let me correct myself and say that the rigid rules of grammar as usually taught in middle/high school are a very useful default that should be followed in most situations. However, sometimes it is desirable to ignore some of the rigid rules.
June 24, 2004, 12:55 p.m. CST
...for the most part jaded, dumb shits who can't appreciate anything that's in the least bit sincere and heartfelt. When you have people (on this talkback, for example) slamming a movie like The Rocketeer, well, that's basically the end for a movie like Sky Captain. The mindless masses want their xXxs and their Armageddons. Oh, and X3. They'll all crap their pants for X3. But Sky Captain? There's no demand for that. Idiots rule, because there are a lot more of them than there are of us. The tribe has spoken.
June 24, 2004, 3:23 p.m. CST
by Super Person
June 24, 2004, 4:02 p.m. CST
Actually, I guess a little offense, but not much, so don't freak out. You shouldn't really worry about whether or not people are gonna take to a stylized film when writing your reviews. I can't tell you how many times I've read a review of yours where you go "if the idea of this and that, and also that doing this, and some of this thrown in there too, doesn't seem like your idea of a good time, then either just stay home or get up and leave the theater because that's what this movie is." Probably at least more than I can count on both hands. I guess that's what reviewing movies on AICN does for you, and I do sympathize with you for that, but you don't have to be so defensive about what you thought was cool. I personally get uneasy when people get so touchy with the validity of their opinions. It's almost like I'm being insulted when I'm reading a review (for example, I've been wary of a *few* of the thumbs-ups coming out of 'Sky Captain...' screenings, but it's not because I'm a "cynical ass;" the concept holds my interest). Then again, you may feel like you're obliged to preface the viewing experience with a warning, which I guess makes some sense.
June 24, 2004, 4:07 p.m. CST
by drew mcweeny
Here's the thing... some movies you can tell are going to play for pretty much all audiences. SPIDER-MAN 2, for example. Sure, some people won't like it, but that's the case with every movie ever made. It's a crowd-pleaser, though, a truly mainstream movie. Both of these are pretty off-center, and that's what makes them so charming and particular, and I guess I just want to try to set a context for what sort of experience each film imparts.
June 24, 2004, 4:11 p.m. CST
See this is what I'm talking about. How can anyone keep their fucking sanity around this place? Moriarty's reviews were pretty to-the-point this time 'round, and there are still clowns like you who tell him that his reviews focus too much on his banal daily activities, which basically means that you flamed him for no valid reason other than the sheer sake of flaming him because you have nothing better to do, you nihilistic piece of garbage. I know it's scary, but try not looking down at everything for a change. And no, hating trolls is not the same thing as trolling itself people, although hating hating trolls comes pretty close to it.
June 24, 2004, 4:15 p.m. CST
...sorry for the spaz out, folks.
June 24, 2004, 4:20 p.m. CST
Okay then. Thanks for the response. I guess I can see how films like these could wind up being a waste of time to people who don't hold those sort of fetishes.
June 24, 2004, 4:27 p.m. CST
But I liked 'Enemy at the Gates'...
June 24, 2004, 6:22 p.m. CST
by andrew coleman
Seriously I'd like to see this movie, especially with all these crappy movies coming out lately. What has happened to summer movies? It's all kids films and dumb as fuck comedies that are not actually funny. Where is the action? I mean Spider-man 2 is taking its time getting to theatres!!! Since the last good movie I've seen is Kill Bill 2 and that was a long time ago
June 25, 2004, 3:02 a.m. CST
Hey Drew, what's the deal with saying that Sky Captain has no smirking pomo wink-wink bs whatsoever, then saying a few lines later that there's a great in-joke from Empire Strikes Back that'll put starch in the knickers of any true SW geek? Sounds like some snarky postmodern bullshit to me.
June 25, 2004, 4:28 a.m. CST
just wanted to share: http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/paramount/skycaptain/
June 25, 2004, 7:50 a.m. CST
by Evil Chicken
Both of these efforts sound like they're worth a look-see. I find that I'm really starting to get a jones for Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow.
June 25, 2004, 8:03 a.m. CST
What did Conran do before Sky Captain? Videos, commercials, anything? The movie is so visually unusual I'm wondering how it got made with a first time director. Did Jude Law like the script and his star power became the key factor that got the movie produced? Don't be shy, enlighten me.
June 25, 2004, 11:10 a.m. CST
I read that about a year ago (huge Mr. Show fan) and made the mistake of letting Paul F. Tompkins sharp humor make some sort of "point." Then I picked up Buk's just-published "The Flash of Lightening Behind the Mountain," and I came to understand that I will forever return to his writing. Anyway, Tompkins has a face like a doughboy, but he is funny. What would be reeeeeally funny is seeing Zombie Bukowski maul him, walking home late-night from one of his post Real Time with Bill Maher stints. OK, to circle back to the film, "Buk: Born Into This" is very good. In my biased opinion it should receive an oscar nom for best documentary (The Corporation will win this category, however). Keep readin' & writin', y'all.
June 25, 2004, 11:12 a.m. CST
You could all stop moaning and go to www.billmurray.co.uk. The only Bill Murray Source (Forum just added!). firstname.lastname@example.org
June 25, 2004, 5:49 p.m. CST
Coppola has no real understanding of what Japan is all about, nor does she have the chops to make a comedy. Both lead performances were terrible as well.
June 25, 2004, 5:51 p.m. CST
the trailer was garbage. does the world REALLY need Angelina Jolie torturing us with her faux English accent yet again?
so maybe this is fimed more that way that the cgi is not too realistic os you won`t notice the few left differences? all the creamy dusty -dizzy coloured rendering looks quite cool in the trailer...thus i can imagine very well mori`s FANTASY feeling. i just fear a bit that my eyes won`t stand these colours for about 2-3 hours.
June 26, 2004, 3:48 a.m. CST
I've seen a rough cut of twenty or thirty minutes or so of Sky Captain and you know what it reminded me of? The Mummy. Not the classic (if somewhat dated) original, the Stephen Sommers remake, and that's the kind of popcorn flick it'll ultimately turn out to be I'm betting. It seemed like it'll be okay, fun enough to sit through once on the big screen and all, but also like it'll be pretty much instantly forgettable outside of some lush imaginatibe shiny visuals. Put it this way, if you loved the look of the Star Wars prequels or Van Helsing then you'll likely blow a load over the retro tech approach of the mountains of cgi in the film, if not, well, I'm guessing it'll all feel a bit hollow and unspectacular really. Personally what i saw of the effects didn't impress me, seen it all before, new cover gloss, same shit underneath, and I was never totally sold on the world, but maybe it'll be more convincing when finished. Or maybe it'll still just look like big budget cgi world with interesting designs. Either way I'll likely check it out on the big screen, but even after seeing what I saw I can't say I'm terribly excited by it at all, or hanging out for it in any way. ************************************************************************** As for Wes Anderson, I must be the only one on earth, but man I found both of his films after the superior Bottle Rocket incredibly over rated and far too "look at me, aren't I clever" pretentious. Rushmore is over rated films I've ever seen, and Tannenbaums isn't much better. That said though I'll see this just because of the cast list, nd hopefully it'll surprise me. After all even from films that I don't expect it from I always walk into any film hoping for the best. We'll see.
June 26, 2004, 5:39 p.m. CST
was 10,000 words not enough?
June 26, 2004, 5:41 p.m. CST
Aug. 4, 2004, 7:36 p.m. CST
I saw Sky Captain mostly finished and thoroughly enjoyed it and I HATED The Mummy movies. The aggressive stupidity of your average Stephen Sommers film is not present here; instead, I thought the characters were charmingly low key--that might sound like box office poison but this really played more like the Spider-Man movies but with a more interesting plot. I even wound up enjoying Gwyneth Paltrow. It's beautifully paced and left me wanting more.