UPDATED!!That WONDERFALLS Event in L.A.!!
UPDATE: For those who have been asking which "Wonderfalls" episodes will be screened tonight, they'll be "Lovesick Ass" and "Cocktail Bunny." I'm pretty sure the former has been available on the evil bittorrent, but - as I've said many times before - it's a much different experience watching filmed entertainment with a roomful of strangers than by yourself or with one other person. Which is why this is a rare opportunity.
Plus? Series creator Bryan Fuller will be there. And so will I, laughing most loudly!
The pertinent info:
The pertinent info:
This Friday, June 18 see two great un-aired episodes of the dearly-departed "Wonderfalls" -- introduced by creators Todd Holland and Bryan Fuller!
Friday June 18 -- 7:30 – only $10 @ the Knitting Factory LA – Main Stage - 7021 Hollywood Blvd.
Oh, and did I mention the free giveaways of goodies like sets of "Freaks & Geeks" and "SCTV" DVDs, Un-Cabaret CD's, and A SCRIPT OF THE "WONDERFALLS" PILOT SIGNED BY FULLER & HOLLAND???!!!
Reservations: 323-993-3305, pre-paid tickets & full festival schedule online
Looking for bumper stickers, plush toys and girls’ underwear covered with cartoon double-amputees? Visit The Herc Store!
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June 17, 2004, 9:34 p.m. CST
June 17, 2004, 10:16 p.m. CST
by Doc Brown
Too bad I live in Philly. Damn LA always get's good shit like this.
June 17, 2004, 10:27 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Not that I'm endorsing the use of BitTorrent or anything.
June 17, 2004, 11:38 p.m. CST
by Human Worm Baby
June 17, 2004, 11:39 p.m. CST
by Human Worm Baby
I'm from a far away land called Puerto Rico, and I liked Wonderfalls. This is unjust to all perfectly normal human worm babies everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 18, 2004, 2:20 a.m. CST
by Jimmy Jazz
Four episodes, FOUR FREAKING EPISODES and they replace it with RERUNS of that "Swan" horseshit!!!! Thanks for reopening that old wound, Herc. I live 2000 miles from LA, but I hope you people who do get to go have fun. I'll just sit here and wallow in my bitterness and plot my revenge against the monkeys that run the network.
June 18, 2004, 2:22 a.m. CST
by THE WALLACE
If you have seen the episode you know what I mean... and if it IS the one they are showing... cool... One of the best 40+ minutes of TV created. I should also note that Jaye is one of the finest, coolest, bitchiest characters in TV history...
June 18, 2004, 3:05 a.m. CST
June 18, 2004, 3:17 a.m. CST
Fatsquatch, and the one with the little kid.. I assumed those episodes aired normally and Herc missed them, since "Canadian" people were able to watch them (If You Know Whant I Mean). I didn't realize I was watching unaired stuff here in "Canada". Unless this is 2 completely different episodes.
June 18, 2004, 3:46 a.m. CST
by Jim Jam Bongs
You can get these two episodes on BitTorrent, because they were also aired on Canadian television. The fact is, there were only six episodes edited and ready for air, but FOX chose not to air the last two out of the six in the U.S.. A total of 13 episodes were produced, but the special FX, final editing and music were not finished for the remaining 7. Also, the producers chose to shuffle around the episodes -- they picked what they believed would be the strongest episodes to air as the first six, though they were not produced in that order. It would cost extra money to get the other 7 episodes finished, and it's 50/50 whether or not Fox Television will put up the money to do it for airing in non-American markets and/or DVD.
June 18, 2004, 8:07 a.m. CST
Are you sure that the back seven of the series never fully made it through post-production? I was under the impression that since it was a mid-season replacement all 13 were finished and ready to go at any time, as is the case with mid-saeson replacements.
June 18, 2004, 8:54 a.m. CST
but i enjoyed it in a Sunday afternoon kind of way.The bT episodes were ok(from canada tv that explains it,nice 1) and resolved the story to a degree.it would of been intresting if there was a plan behind all of it rather than suggesting she had a concussion.ok series,oh well.
June 18, 2004, 1:07 p.m. CST
by Jim Jam Bongs
From what I understand, 13 episodes were produced. FOX elected to air six as a midseason tryout. So, the producers selected and ordered the episodes they felt were the strongest as the first six. The post production budget was then put into finishing these six. I don't know for sure, but I suspect that the two episodes that will be screened at this event are the last two from the six episode order that did not air in the U.S. but did in Canada, and which have since been pirated for sharing on bittorrent. $10 to sit in a comedy club to watch two episodes of a cancelled TV series. Only in L.A. can you get away with that.
June 18, 2004, 8:53 p.m. CST
Oops, I mean HATE "Wonderfalls." Because that handle just screams taste.
June 18, 2004, 11:42 p.m. CST
That's a killer punch.
June 19, 2004, 3:32 a.m. CST
...well not really his stalker, i'm just an eager fan who loves to freak folk out. herc is awesome and i will sacrifice his first child to my, wait, wait...MY first child will be sacrificed in his name. I never was a huge fan of Wonderfalls but seeing the eps tonite helped me understand what the possibilities were for the show, i had kinda just seen it as this "objects talk to strange, unemotional girl, how funny! how wacky!" show. The screening was well worth my time and I look forward to the DVD in December.
June 19, 2004, 4:06 a.m. CST
These were really good episodes. I liked the second one (the thriller/noirish one) in particular, although Lovesick Ass was great too. And it is something to see these shows with a huge group. The energy that a live audience brings to something like this sure is something. And I bet it's probably one of the most gratifying experiences ever to be one of the writers of an episode and to see an assembled audience like this laugh at all the right places and to applaud during the commercial breaks. There were only two downsides to the whole thing. one, they didn't give out any Freaks & Geeks DVDs like AICN suggested they would (instead, they gave out season 1 of Punky Brewster), and there was a bomb scare right after the show, and nobody could get to the parking lot to retrieve their cars for two hours. It turned out to be some homeless dude's clothes or something. And the parking peeps charged us for the two extra hours (which were billed in 20-minute increments) even though the whole block had been evacuated and nobody could leave even if they wanted to.
June 19, 2004, 10:58 a.m. CST
I gave "Wnderfalls" two chances, and ultimately found it boring, uninteresting, marginally funny, and quite dull. I hope "Dead Like Me" isn't like that. I have yet to get the DVD set to watch it. I think "Dead Like Me" has far more interesting merits than say someone one talking to objects and convincing people she's sane. I like "Joan of Arcadia" better, cause it has what "Wonderfalls" lacked. "Joan" has heart, plot, great characters, and is more realistic. "Wonderfalls" is neurotic, schizophrenic, unrealistic, confusing, and uninspired. Or as Mr. Fuck put it, like a college slacker, but the slacker is so dazed and confused they can't tell the toilet bowl from a bowl full of jello and vice versa.
June 19, 2004, 10:11 p.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Not that I'm endorsing bittorent or anything...jus' sayin'.
June 19, 2004, 10:18 p.m. CST
by Jim Jam Bongs
I'm not sure about this, but I thought I heard that the FX for one of the episodes which leaked to bittorrent does not have completed FX. It instead has on screen words which indicate where the FX would go. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.) I'm assuming this would be the 7th episode.
June 20, 2004, 2:41 a.m. CST
June 20, 2004, 4:41 a.m. CST
by Prof. Pop-Cult
June 20, 2004, 6:49 a.m. CST
Hey! bittorrent is not evil.. it's the only hope for all those "Canadian" people who get all tv shows like 6 months later (there _is_ a world outside the US, you know). Speaking of wich, ep 8 (safety canary) seems to be available too.. I'm so lucky to be a "Canadian".
June 22, 2004, 3:48 a.m. CST
Mr. Fuck's primary point for disliking Wonderfalls is completely irrelevant... so Mr. Fuck, you went out with some slacker chicks in college? Don't like 'em now? So any art featuring those types of characters is less valid because of your bad experiences? Good job, Mr. Fuck, you just invalidated any opinions you have, because who knows what kind of random-ass peronal baggage you're applying. ---------- Wonderfalls is undeniably better written than most shows, featuring writers that are undeniably smarter than most, it has subtext that undeniably goes deeper than most, its humor is undeniably less predictable than most, and its lead actress is undeniably better at delivering sarcasim and cyncism naturally than most (and very possibly the best ever.) So this type of character or type of demeaner doesn't appeal to you anymore? Good job, that doesn't mean there's not legitimate material to be explored here. Hell, maybe you could even learn something about your college exs if you were open enough to not shut certain things out based on their concept, as opposed to their actual-quality. ---------- No, Wonderfalls is not amazing perfectness, it has its flaws like any show (the aired episodes never did do much with her so-far-cartoony-family, and that episode with the priest ended on a overly sappy-ass note), but to dismiss it because you dont like the lead character is to dismiss art. Art challenges you, it doesn't coddle to you. ------------------------------ On a related note, the Tim Minear episode (Jaye is labeled a non-winner by the college stalker/writer) has more legitimate things to say about life and existance than the entire season of Joan of Arcadia. It has nothing to do with which show co-stars God, it has to do with a little thing called Quality Writing and Unpredictability... and which show does and doesn't coddle to the audience's Safety Zone. Art isn't about giving you what you want in a place you've already been, it's about taking you somewhere new in a way you didn't quite know existed. That is the opposite of Joan of Arcadia. Joan of Arcadia is the opposite of art.
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