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New ALIEN VS. PREDATOR trailer, sans the retarded guitar riffs, has hit!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I really, really, really, really want this movie to be as cool as it can possibly be. I like this trailer more than any of the previous ones, but there are still some shots that make me go, "Oh... Really?" Like the awkward Predator in the first part of the below trailer... Hopefully Paul W.S. Anderson can prove his critics (myself included) wrong with this movie. I hope he does. I've already seen terribly shitty Alien movies. I don't want to add this film to that stack.
CLICK IT HERE, YOU UGLY MUDDA FOOCKERS!
OR HERE!!
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That's right - fuckin' FIRST!!!!!!!! Go on, FLAME ME, bitches! You know you wanna! (Apart from that, I have nothing else to add...)
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Rocks ! I hope the movie does.
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I'm dying to see this movie more than anything else this summer... and I'm dreading the idea that Paul Anderson could make me look like a fool for saying so. The trailer is great, better than any of the previous clips or teasers, and it definitely sets up a great battle between the two species, I just hope he can pull it off. This has the potential to be one of the coolest monster movies ever made or the next BATTLEFIELD EARTH.
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Only fucking with you 'first poster' haters. Relax, guys. Moving on - this flick does look pretty cool, actually. Of course, trailers are designed to get you into theatres, so the jury is still out, but it looks a damn sight better than people have assumed from Anderson. By the way, just so as you know where I'm coming from, I kinda dug Event Horizon and Resident Evil (although not a patch on the games) was mindless fun, if not exactly a zombie classic by any stretch. So sue me. FYI: Alien Ressurrection sucked donkey dick. AVP at least looks and feels like a step up (which, admittedly, shouldn't be hard!)
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Jun 16, 2004 5:37:59 AM CDT
Oh no. Shit! shitshitshitshitshitshitSHIT!! Fucking cunts
by theginger twit
So we're in the antarctic. We've gone in to investigate a newly discovered pyramid under the ice. Now not only is the place crawling with aliens and predators (For what ever stupid fucking reason that is) these 'explorers' have gone in with a complete arsonal ready to shoot up anything that moves. FUCK OFF!!
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Jun 16, 2004 5:40:22 AM CDT
I hope this does rock, not only because it'd suck if it sucked b
by regicidal_maniac
"They didn't consult me about this _______, so this _______, about which I know nothing, will automatically suck and therefore I have decided to hate this _______ HARD. This way I can be perceived as 'cool' by pasty-faced anonymous usernames posting from basements around the globe." Losers. Hate something AFTER you see it, that way your opinion will have some validity. Like "Van Helsing", that movie sucked and I can say that because I was given tix to a preview screening and I still wanted my money back. Hating something before you see it does save time but it makes you a retard. If you don't want to see it don't go and see it but don't waste your time bitching about it you silly little cunts.
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Maniac, coming from someone who actually enjoyed Van helshing immensly, loved Spiderman, think the Star Wars prequals are unreal (Just poorly directed in parts) I cans ay with full force that THIS LOOKS FUCKING BORING. I was excited by the first 1 minute with Bishop and the pyramid... but WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THE REST OF THIS XXX TORQUE FAST AND FURIOUS LETS JUST TAKE THE MARINES FROM ALIENS AND THE FANTASTIC LOOK OF PREDATOR 2 AND SLAP TOGETHER ANY OL PIECE A SHIT CAUSE THE FANS WILL LAP IT UP claptrap. But you're right... it might be really cool. (I don't think so)
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Jun 16, 2004 6:33:54 AM CDT
Some may lambast me for having lowered expectations but after Pr
by regicidal_maniac
Since I actually enjoyed Resident Evil, beside the score which I didn't care for and the ill-placed layer change on the R4 DVD I thought it was highly a enjoyable romp. Then again I don't play video games and had no emotional attachment to the RE canon so I neither know nor care what had been changed from medium to medium. AVP on the other hand is so simple it's hard to imagine anyone fucking it up. It's SO simple in fact that the premise is in the title. So long as the movie has Aliens verus Predators and vice versa I'll be one happy Alien and Predator series fan. Additionally if this film reinvigorates both franchises to the point where 20thCFox decides to make Predator 3 and Alien 5 then colour me ecstatic.
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...but not an Alien 5. The Alien saga has died for me when the most imbecile sequel ever (called Alien^3) got released. Alien Resurrection was on par with that, however I can accept it as a parody of the franchise.
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Jun 16, 2004 6:56:18 AM CDT
I've seen three shitty Alien sequels (and one Predator, too), bu
by salvatoregravano
So many muggers in the world... why can't one mug W. S. Anderson somewhere and kill him while doing that? For such a heroic deed, the mugger would get an automatic pardon and immunity for the rest of his life.
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There is more market for a good aliens movie than for another bad predator movie
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Now i know there are still many a fan who actually dislikes 'Aliens' but give Cameron the credit for coming up with an original and interesting way to prolong a franchise rather than simply spin off a sequel that'd try it's best to emulate the original in all ways possible.
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Now THAT looked pretty fuckin kick ass.
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Jun 16, 2004 7:21:06 AM CDT
sorry guys , but to use a much used phrase: "that looks fu**ing
by mansep
Made me think of event horizon, and then mortal kombat - funny that. This film could have been so cool - instead we have a highly unoriginal and unexciting botch of a film, that may appeal to 14 year old boys but no-one else. Now, if Robocop ahd turned up and blasted them all to shit, ... well, that i would have paid to see. LOL ;).
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Okay, interesting trailer - could be cool, but still could be crap. To be slightly fair, though, maybe we should hold off on the "why send an armed team in" questions until we see the film - there may be a very good reason for it, like, say, maybe the tunnel that we see wasn't dug by the humans, so the rationale may be "who dug it and what if they're not friendly?".
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They actually send in a team made up of Archeologists,
Scientists and Explorers who are backed up by Weyland's security force.
The security guys are there due to the local wildlife - Polar Bears etc not much else as they dont exactly expect to run into Aliens & Predators for god's sake ! -
There aren't any polar bears on Antarctica.
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1) It is free of Ripley. For a while there I wasn't sure which was the monster, Segourney Weaver or the Aliens after what she has done with the franchise with Alien Creep and Alien Bore.
2) We haven't seen Predators in a long time! They're bigger and badder and more than one. This is their "Predators" movie.
3) We get to see why Wayland Yutani KNEW about the Alien before the movie "Alien" started. Remember they sent the Nostromo to investigate the planetoid and to retrieve the alien specimen as the #1 priority. All others were secondary. So this is really an Alien pre-quel.
4) There is nothing wrong with a VS movie. It does not mean Hollywood is not being creative. Its giving the fans what they want and the general audience entertainment. In fact I think it is even more creative than just a new movie because there are so many new things you can do with this kind of story.
5) I hope we have a "good" Predator in this story because I loved that aspect of the original AVP comic series.
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I was never a fan of either Alien or Predator, but i have always been entertain by them one way or another. This trailer has really made me even more intersted in both characters.
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Are we gonna have the rap version next? Man, alien eggs still juicy after all this time under a mile of ice. I'm gonna have to see this for Lance Henriksen alone. Whoever wins...who cares. Just have Lance and a lot of death.
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Jun 16, 2004 8:42:50 AM CDT
I agree. Making this a prequel/tie in to Alien would make this
by darksider
The did send the settle those people on that planet knowing the Aliens were there right?
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I'm worried about a few things.
1. The Queen Alien looks like a cross between the "Mama" baby Alien in Alien IV and the stupid looking zombie thing from Resident Evil. Ugh.
2. One Predator seems to have paid a visit to Krull and returned with that spiky throwing disc.
3. I'm afriad the film will be made up of lots of people running through cotrridors and rolling under closing doors, followed by a few people running through lots of corridors and not being able to get through closing doors, thus being trapped and ripped to shreds. repeat.
4. The scenes seen on the big pyramid (one in this trailer and one in the death metal one) remind me of the end to The One - which isn't very encouraging as that was a crappy ending too.
5. Why does the first face hugger egg seen here rise up from behind something? I didn't know they could levitate.
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They're not for the wildlife. If one satelite can spot it, than so can others. The corporation will want to protect anything they find there from outside interests or maybe to control the scientists/civilians on the team who might try something.
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...anyone who didn't feel the slightest bit excited or found a smile on his/her face after that trailer is a lying, odious, despicable, cinetard loser who can never admit to being pleased by anything without the infantile fear of losing their "net-cred". Do you have any idea how punchably hateful you cretins sound when you carry on like that? This includes GingerTwit, Hooters_Girl, SalvatoreGravano, mansep and anyone else who has mistakenly confused clever, legitimate, well-founded criticism with being a braying, malignant, feces-flinging simpleton. There's nothing more annoying than an idiot trying to sound incisive and witty, attempting to score easy points by being a hamfisted gadfly. You're truly beneath contempt. Do mankind a favor and don't ever have children, mmmmm-kay?
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Jun 16, 2004 9:06:56 AM CDT
whatever about my other misgivings, this has some of the ugliest
by mr_ant
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Jun 16, 2004 9:39:50 AM CDT
DocPazuzu voice of sanity in a mire of dung-flinging ankle-biter
by regicidal_maniac
I knew there was a reason I enjoyed reading your posts. Here's cheers from Oz.
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I might actually watch this movie now. On a rented DVD, of course.
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For those of you who like keeping what you download. Enjoy:
http://www.viewandreview.com/avp/avp-trailer3_m480.mov
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We all know everyone at this site will hate this movie and not give credit to Anderson even if the movie is halfway decent, I'm expecting if the movie rocks it'll still get half ass so-so recommendations from the people who work here.
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Jun 16, 2004 10:14:30 AM CDT
Think there's any nucular reactors there in Antartica?
by rev_skarekroe
Nice pronunckiation there, Lance. sk
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Jun 16, 2004 10:18:35 AM CDT
Isn't Harry the man who spawned the phrase "Rokken with Dokken?"
by jeditemple
Harry, you're in denial. You know you love heavy metal. I'll bet you own every Winger and Dokken CD. LOL
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Jun 16, 2004 11:44:13 AM CDT
Regicidal_Maniac and DocPazuzu are the voices of insanity
by mister mcclane
Anybody who thinks this film is going to be worth getting off the shitter for must be braindead or Australian. Let's arrange to meet back here when the movie is released on August 10th because I can't wait for you guys to eat your words. And I'll tear the film apart even though I STILL won't have seen it, cos I'm a war-mongering Brit who doesn't get it til November and loves spouting off about shit I've smelt but not stepped in yet!
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Jun 16, 2004 12:04:26 PM CDT
DocPazuzu.... maybe some of us want a bit of integrity behind th
by theginger twit
don't get me started on predator. As for this film... look at where it's come from. A comic idea which was long believed by many to be a grand feature film. Well, we had a pretty good script 10 years back. But a lot of people got scared by it. after much deliberation the fans won out and the film was a goa..... however, everyone knew the comics and the script.... so .... lets just slap a whole heap of explosions together. No I say!!
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Jun 16, 2004 1:01:16 PM CDT
"And I'll tear the film apart even though I STILL won't have see
by docpazuzu
Any comment would be superfluous.
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Jun 16, 2004 1:05:10 PM CDT
"someone who actually enjoyed Van helshing immensly,"...."I cans
by docpazuzu
GingerTwit's "integrity".
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Jun 16, 2004 1:12:54 PM CDT
O'wo'a japefu'jesta is MistaMcClane. Ye'anuva lager-lout provink
by regicidal_maniac
Heh. Shyeah I know she's "our bloody Queenie too" hopefully we can rectify that anacronistic situation at some point down the line, when the kiss-arse Liberal Gov gets "The Boot". Don't feel sore chappie, give me some creds for resisting the cheap and obvious "Mister McCLAME" retort. At least Aussies wouldn't ship our prisoners off to somewhere much nicer, we'd send them to Tasmania (or maybe "Antartica"). Toodle-pip olde bean.
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...ehh whatever.
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Jun 16, 2004 1:45:30 PM CDT
Every Paul "Whatta Storyteller" Anderson movie is better than th
by some dude
AVP will be the best movie of the summer. PWSA knows how to handle the genre. I think that many of his films will be given the benefit of critical reappraisal a decade down the road, like the works of Carpenter or Verhoeven, when critics and the audience finally catches up with him. Oh, and anyone expecting a versus movie to be suspenseful is a retard. --------------- Regarding GUNS and LEVITATING EGGS... Weyland has probably lied to his team. The guns are either for rival teams or, GASP, Weyland knows that the pyramid is of extraterrestrial origin. The "levitating egg" (you fucking retard) works on the same principle as the levitating golden idol from the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark. You see, it doesn't levitate, but rests on a platform that rises. How about some of you turds should realize that trailers are not designed to answer every question that the audience has. Sometimes images are included that are enigmatic and require seeing the actual movie to decipher or, even easier, a bit of imagination if you can't wait.------------- Whoever thought The One was a bad movie with a bad ending is also a retard. The movie was an enjoyable B sci-fi with a great Carpenter style ending. Eff off.
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Speaking of new and modified trailers, I just found a new version of the Casshern trailer that they're using to attract a buyer in the US. It's basically the same as the old version but the music is significantly better: http://casshernfan.tripod.com/cashhernustrailer.wmv
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Jun 16, 2004 3:00:37 PM CDT
There's a huge opportunity to explain the origins of these creat
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That's why Alien 3&4 were so frustrating. I haven't read any of the comics or novels but in the right hands the origin of the Alien could make for a great story. Maybe both the Alien and the Predator are genetically engineered weapons from two long dead warring peoples, I don't know but something more interesting than the same humans running from monster thing.
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Any one know the music from that trailer? it is cool
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i love the mentality that "i've seen 12 seconds of the movie and it sucks because....and it's unrealistic because.... and i swear i'm not hammering it just because it can't possibly be cool to like it". get over yourselves haters!
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I haven't read all of the novels and comics, but have read a great deal of them. From what I gather, it's never fully determined whether the Aliens (linguafoeda acheronsis)are biological weapons engineered by a long dead civilization or a naturally evolved species. The Predators (Yautja) are a naturally evolved species and hunt others in their (and our) particular region of the galaxy. Thousands of years ago they encountered the Aliens and learned how to breed them, for purposes of training and rites of adulthood. Predators will "seed" them in particular regions on certain planets, give them a head start to multiply, and then swoop in to wipe them out. This practice is carried out under extremely controlled forms, as it is no more in the Predators' interest than Terrans' that the Alien menace should spread like wildfire. Earth has been a hunting ground for the Yautja for millennia. My guess is that as man became more advanced and less superstitious, the practicality of sustaining human cultures geared to the worship of and sacrifice to Yautja hunters declined. The pyramid in AvP seems to be one that the Predators were unable to "close down" before a natural catastrophe struck, burying it under the ice of what would become Antarctica. Weyland's intrusion has in all liklihood alerted the Preds, who now see their chance to close it down forever -- and thus keep Aliens out of the hands of humans.
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Jun 16, 2004 3:44:07 PM CDT
Trailer looks great!!! Maybe Anderson has pulled something off?
by the founder
Don't know if the guy has pulled a fluke and made a decent movie, but the traler looks pretty damn good. I have no complaints.
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He's the one actor that I've really liked in the Alien movies and it's a nice tie-in to have him star in AvP. Too bad they screwed up Alien 3, because I would like to have seen Hicks, Newt, and Ripley go to the Alien homeworld. Killing off Hicks and Newt will go down in the history of Hollywood debacles.
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Hey Jedi Temple, Ridley Scott is going to make a "stand alone" Alien movie... which means Alien Creep and Alien Bore will not matter. The cool thing about making things is you can continue to make things. meaning, just because Hicks and Newt were killed off in Alien Creep, does not mean movie makers can not go back and make another movie, an alternate movie where they aren't mindlessly killed off. Yeah it's not canon, but it is science fiction for goodness sake and it's a movie, not a reality TV show.
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Jun 16, 2004 6:51:30 PM CDT
Whoever made this movie believes in ritualistic sacrifices
by rcamacho2278
That predator flying through the air, looks kinda silly.
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I'm so sick of all the Paul W.S. Anderson bashing on this site. Personally, I think Harry and the rest of his crew are big ole' sloppy puss' for their disrespect of the man. He is one of the finest sci-fi directors working today. Event Horizon was one of the only 'trapped on a spaceship' movies that is actually interesting and exciting and mentally stimulating. Soldier, despite all the pissing and moaning here, is a great movie. Kurt Russel was amazing. It told more with no words than most movies tell with pages of dialogue. Resident Evil was the first 'game-based' movie, I can think of, that was cool. It had style and wit and action to spare. And, now, finally, it looks as though he's crafted a kick-ass summer thrill ride that revitalize the Alien and Predator franchises. So, in defense of the man, FOCK YOU GUYS!!! THE MAN RULES!! So, DON'T BE HATIN'! That is, of course, unless you can do better. Can ya'? Huh, Harry? Can ya'? No. So, quit yer bitchin', bitch!
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Jun 16, 2004 7:06:00 PM CDT
This movie looks awesome! Also NAPOLEON DYNAMITE ON JUNE 11!!
by crackerfarmboy
That trailer rocked. I actually kind of liked the story as it was presented their. I was originally quite resistant to it. I like Alien, Aliens, Predator, and Predator 2. Alien 3 was good in an arty kind of way but wasn't really on the same level as the first two. Alien Resurrection was god awful.
By the way: NAPOLEON DYNAMITE ON JUNE 11 NAPOLEON DYNAMITE ON JUNE 11 NAPOLEON DYNAMITE ON JUNE 11 NAPOLEON DYNAMITE ON JUNE 11 NAPOLEON DYNAMITE ON JUNE 11 NAPOLEON DYNAMITE ON JUNE 11 NAPOLEON DYNAMITE ON JUNE 11 Sheesh Harry have you no goddamn shame anymore? Let me guess: Napoleon Dynamite was so beautiful it was the "modern day Bride of Frankenstein"? -
...regarding the "hack vs auteur" debate. EVERY one of Anderson's movies is better than ANY one of John Carpenter's movies since Big Trouble in Little China. Put that in your naysayer pipes and smoke it, losers.
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...but I do love Aliens and Predators...I'm so torn...okay FOX, I'm in, but this better not be Event Horizon v. Soilder v. Resident Evil!!!
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I just realized what this movie looks like: video interludes that accompany theme park rides.
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I thought the openly loathed "death metal trailer" was pretty kickass. This one takes the cake and makes me want to see this movie real bad. The new footage wasen't bad either (predator throwing the alien, aliens climbing pyramid shown so we can actually see it), and the music rocked. Hope this is an Aliens and not a Resurrection (was actually not terribly horrible until Ripley got knocked up by an alien...shudder). I don't really know if they are doing the Predators well, considering I haven't seen either of the movies (gasp). And aside from the subject, Superherohype has new pics from Batman Begins. Nothing great, just Liam Neeson (said there he was Ducard, not Ras) and Christian with a sword. There's also a pic of the Thing for Fantastic Four (actually just a statue for what might be). Cheerio
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...does harry pay to go to movies any more or does he just see screenings sans trailers and sponges all his info off the net?
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Jeez, if half of you whingers spent half the energy on something constructive rather than whinging and sooking about a movie you have not seen yet, the resulting brain power would be scary. Ok - Anderson may not be the hottest director, but give him a chance. From what Ive seen so far AVP looks pretty good. Ill wait till it comes out to make a firm opinion. But what really shits me is those who cry about reality and set up - ITS A MOVIE. Its not supposed to be real life based thats why its a MOVIE. Escapism ! Take a step back, sit down and enjoy what AVP should be - a fun ride between 2 awesome movie monsters. Those looking for Oscar winning, deep and meaningful - piss off somewhere else. For the record - Alien, Aliens, Predator 1 & 2 were good films. What the hell are you guys looking for. Go find Nemo
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and besides it was hard to top Arnie back then.F@;kin voodoo margick maaaaaaaan.Alien films are ok too but be careful taking into consideration the comics of either series(Dutch's brother anyone,though i liked the first mini)as movies dont often show the same respect.Resident Evil was a disgrace to Capcom and to fans of the series.PTA didn't do his homework(do any of you reckon PTA clocked that game?).It ignored the atmosphere,mood and musical styles that the series created and ignored the creators art.That was a no brainer.This showed in the film. It was a lame zombie film too.People who appreciate zombie films and play RE games can justify themselves.But i am glad all you baggage free crew enjoyed it.But you can't know what you never knew.I don't care about PTA's track record,whats done is done.I hope he has done his homework and watched the films and read all the comics that fans of the series have watched/read and enjoyed.I hope PTA doesn't ignore the fans or the previous creators work and pushes the franchise(because thats what it is) forward.I want to see this film but i am avoiding trailers as this film sells itself.I will watch this baggage free and make up my own mind based on what i see and what i have seen before rather than defending it because i ran my mouth before i'd seen it or told everybody they are negative and feel i have to justify myself or cuss a next man because i am the stereotype not him or her.i have the dvds so i can draw the line if i have too.J carpenter doesnt come into this,different era,different style,not relevent(though escape from new york's art direction could be resident evil).Good luck PTA this is the title shot,prove them wrong.
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Jun 16, 2004 10:34:06 PM CDT
It's funny that you shoul d criticise Escape From New York's Art
by regicidal_maniac
...especially given that James Cameron was a matte painter and director of effects photography as were the brothers Skotak who also worked with Jim on Aliens and T2 and the cinematographer was one of the world's best Dean Cundey.
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...and smells like crap...
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that wasn't a criticism of escape from new york it was a compliment,,,,,,,,,,,
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Yep, you know I'm right
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In that case I think you are being too generous to Resident Evil, I liked it but comparing it to such a classic film? Nuh uh. It was fun but not great.
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how would you know if you haven't played the games
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Stupid humans. Predators are hunting the Aliens. They are no more at war with them than deers are at war with hunters.
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Jun 16, 2004 10:43:40 PM CDT
Oh, I thought you meant the movie. But you mean the games?
by regicidal_maniac
About which I know absolutely nothing. At all. Maybe you're right then, I wouldn't know.
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It looks pretty damn tight. I hope the movie is of even better quality. But, why all the sniveling about the guitar riffs? Dost thou not like The MET-AL?? How weak.
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Still comparing video games to films, even filmic adaptations of said video games is like comparing chalk to cheese. (Why anyone would ever compare chalk and cheese is beyond me.)
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The answer is in the third internet trailer about the characters. The tall black dude explains it as the surprise side of Weyland's tactical team. There's two teams: tactical and scientific. I hate to remind people of this, but most multibillionaire types have bodyguards with assault rifles in their trunk. If you don't believe me, just go drive through the gate at some major corporation and smash into an executive's car. They're guaranteed to use more than just harsh language on you.
"I keep this...chicka chicka...for close enounters." -
Jun 16, 2004 11:15:18 PM CDT
don't do it to yourself there are people watching this.Chalk and
by proper
how would you know about the crossover between video games and filmaking and was is possible?.Do you know the state of the art?No,because you said you have no experience of the titles discussed or the genre in general so leave it be.enjoy the movie.
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Once again, people are raking Alien 3 over the coals for the most ridiculous of reasons. To complain that a sequel did not follow the plot you hoped for, and call that an actual flaw in the film, you must have issues. The film wasn't quite up to the standards of the first 2 at any rate, but it was still a damn good film. I don't care how many of you wanted to see Newt learn to use a pulse rifle or something else equally retarded, she died for a fucking reason and it was a key thematic element in the film. Christ. Anyone who dislikes it can do so, but if you outright hate it I want you to make a list of everything you think is flawed in the film. Now, check to see how many of those are related to how the previous two played out and how the third differed. Hint: It's nearly all of them.
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In case you don't about that movie, it's the one that made Sophia Loren a respected star world-wide (1964). Had the film maker had any real balls, he would have let Newt live, and one of the inmates would have raped her, while the others held Ripley down. That's what happened in "Two Women". Imagine just how angry Ripley would have been then.
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Jun 16, 2004 11:37:57 PM CDT
Wow what a nasty response to the video game to film thing.
by regicidal_maniac
True I have no experience PLAYING games but I am very familiar with what goes into the making of a videogame through my friends who work for Infogrames and Ubisoft here in Sydney continually chewing my ear about the process. And I compare this with the amount of effort and crew hours it takes me to write, direct, shoot and then finally edit a film and let me tell you from one who knows that aside from casual similarities in the editing bay stage and sound recording there is very little comparison between the two. I'm not saying what we do is easier or harder than sitting at a computer consuming Doritos and Pepsi stressing over polygon sizes etc, it's certainly more active, but I am saying they are totally different mediums with totally different craft involved. So don't presume to tell me what I know based on what I don't know ie. how/why to play video games. Okay?
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listen i'll let the people decide.i wasn't telling you what you know or don't know and you know it.i told you what you told us you don't know.all i do know is you used this TB to call people C:>ts and then got offended because you got baited out in front of the world.Then you brought a mans country into the equation.Don't perpetrate a front and try to style your way out with technical talk when your out of your depth because your ego can't handle the level you brought to the community.You should listen to your friends and learn esp if you have a job in the industry,it may aid you in the future.you don't know fine,nothing wrong with that.that wasn't the issue,Jc and escape from new york's artists wasnt a issue and you know it.You just had to step up.Don't come back.This TB is about the A,P,AvP series and the work and related work of the artists involved.Enjoy the movie:>.Alien 3 was better in the long cut version without the expectations I had in 92 and i enjoyed a lot more this time round.Alien 4 was ok but nothing special.sorry to the crew for making them scroll past all this.
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PREDATOR was never spectacular filmmaking by any means, but the first two ALIEN films were. PT Anderson needs to be castrated for putting the final nail in the coffin of the ALIEN franchise. I was hoping it couldn't get any worse than ALIEN: RESSURECTION...after seeing this trailer attached to RIDDICK, I can honestly say, it's getting a lot worse.
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All you cunts that rag out any movie suck balls. they are made to entertain. i loved alien through to A4 and both predator movies. glover was fine.
now..
i HATE anderson and I hated what he did with RE but that does not mean i didnt enjoy watchign it.
This movie will be fun reguardless of how shit it is.
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Jun 17, 2004 12:33:20 AM CDT
You're talking in gibberish now, and that's cool it's a form of
by regicidal_maniac
I don't know why you're making an issue of any of this. I jokingly mocked McClane for being a Brit when he jokingly mocked me for being an Aussie and he knows it was all in good fun. Geez get over yourself and don't be such a prude this is the internet not a nursery school, although you wouldn't guess based on the shocking spelling I see above me. As for referring to all the shitty little whinging sonsofbitches as the CUNTS they are, so what? It's just another word for vagina, an ordinary, and very enjoyable, female body part. The word itself has been inmbued with negative and vulgar connotations over time and I used it in disparaging manner towards the whiney little fuckers for whom nothing is ever good enough. Honestly I don't know why you had to go and make a big deal out of it, from what I gather we both like ALL the films in the Alien and Predator series to varying degrees. I will enjoy the film because I have been looking forward to it, as I believe I stated in my very first post on this page.
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seriously man allow it......you have had more comebacks than joe bugner :>.who said i dont like swearing?You have your style i have mine you Fa#King spunk:r :>.Its you who's flapping,but please let this end(though i have enjoyed this fair play).I knew you'd mention the spolling it was a trojan for u 2 fall back on in case you couldn' tink of ayting.If i have offended you sorry.just something for the people to read while the boss ain't watching.nothing personal.but yeah Avp eh i hope thats going to be good..........predator 2 was ok...... and godzilla could take out sydney with one swish.
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Jun 17, 2004 1:07:54 AM CDT
Joe Bugner... heh... oh man again with the Godzilla thing.
by regicidal_maniac
You are right, though not about Godzilla, this IS all for nought as we're basically championing the same side. Although, for me it is a decent distraction from this script which is breaking my arse. Yeah incorrect spelling is a pet peeve of mine but I used to work as a journo and they drum it into us, because God(zilla) knows they don't have the resources to do so in public schooling. Oh and I am incapable of being offended, unless it's by a nasty 400 pound hairy woman in a G-string and tassels. Ohowugh... THAT... is OFFENSIVE. :)
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just respect the chain of command(boooo hissss)If you are having trouble with your script put some C:0ts in it.thats sells.Godzilla ok we agree to disagree =)(hearty handshakes all round for real).Meanwhile in cyberspace a hirstute,angry female with tassles of death plots revenge............
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This actually looks really fucking cool. We'll obviouslt have to wait and see, but it looks like it'll fucking rock.
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OH NO! It's a chamber. Where people get sacrificed. Cracker with that cheese?
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Thank fuck the RE film looked nothing like the RE games. Can you imagine how boring it would of been to see yet another bunch of people run around in a big scary mansion for hours? And if it isn't a scary mansion, it's a scary police station or a scary train....that crashes into a scary mansion. And PTA was faithful to the RE Universe with little hints and nudges but nothing too obvious that it would of pulled you out of the "cinematic experience" (very loose term for some peeps concerning PTA). Yes, the rock shock of Slipknot and other out-of-place metal bands isn't what i want on a horror soundtrack but most people who go to see a horror film do and the way it is used can be effective, RE's laser-tunnel-of-death and Freddy Vs. Jason's final fight. PTA gave RE a refreshing twist while still keeping in the cheesy dialogue we expect from RE and also the cheesy looking people. The zombies aren't running around like they're on speed and neither do they do anything too unbelievable. And if anything, RE2: Apocalypse looks like it's going to style off it's visuals (and possible plot) off RE3: Nemesis which was a refreshing experience running around Raccoon City until you, yet again, got stuck indoors. Anyway, if people are gonna be upset at PTA on betraying the RE universe then where are they in shouting at Capcom for making RE4 WITHOUT zombies and WITHOUT scary mansion? Instead we get scary village...
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THE TRAILER ROOOCKS. LETS HOPE THE AVERAGE DIECTOR CAN MAKE AN ABOVE AVERAGE FILM.
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It's interesting to still hear this film being debated so long after it was originally released. Here's my take on it.
Alien 3 was a good movie, but a shit sequel. Hell, even as a movie in its own right, it still had some pretty major flaws. So what's wrong with it?
1. Terrible continuity and weak premise. How did the alien egg get onto the Sulaco? If it was near enough to Ripley to prompt it to hatch, why did nobody notice it? Why did they take so long to hatch? Why did the alien take so long to gestate once Ripley was impregnated? How come the Sulaco just happened to be near an inhabited world? And that just skims the surface. OK, one or two continuity problems can be ignored, but this just takes the piss. If a movie's gonna draw you in, it needs to be credible on some level.
2. Repetition. Alien 3 is basically a re-run of the original Alien movie. Bunch of unarmed humans facing off against an Alien in a confined environment from which there is no escape. OK, yeah, you've got some different themes.... but that's not enough to justify the crippling lack of originality.
3. It abandons the thematic direction of the two earlier movies. There's a clear progression of Ripley's character through the first two films. Aliens carefully builds up to a point where Ripley has reclaimed her humanity while confronting a nightmare. At the end of the movie, there is an overt suggestion that she, Newt and Hicks are now a family unit. Killing off these characters is not just an affront to the geeks who wanted to see them hauling pulse rifles, it's a waste of a brilliantly crafted theme. It makes Alien 3 feel less like a sequel, and more like a pointless excuse for facing Ripley off against an alien again. The story of Aliens had many interesting angles from which it could be explored and developed, and Alien 3 wasted the opportunity. Worse than that, by killing off all the key characters from the earlier films, it slammed the door shut on the possibility of the error ever being corrected. Unless Cameron or Scott go for a revisionist approach and make a sequel that ignores Alien 3 and 4. We can live in hope.
4. The CGI alien sucks big, hairy love sacks.
There's plenty more, but you get the idea.
Like I said, it ain't bad in its own right. Visually, it's stunning. The atmosphere is powerful. Killing off Newt and Hicks makes it a terrible sequel in my mind, but the sense of hopelessness and desolation that this creates is an engaging theme in its own right. But still, the movie never offers us enough to justify its existence as part of the Alien franchise. Its biggest sin is still the way in which it wastes a golden opportunity to progress the story in an interesting direction.
Which brings to mind another interesting point. If Anderson can manage not to drop the ball with AVP (and I still have some hope), it'll be the least boring film in the Alien franchise since Aliens. Alien 3 and 4 didn't even try and have a story, really. They were both just a sad excuse to stick more aliens on screen, in the hope that this alone would be sufficient to keep the dollars rolling in. However the story of AVP pans out, at least it's an attempt at a plot, for fuck's sake!
One final note.... Alien 4 was shit. Simple as that. The only redeeming feature that I can think of is that the aliens looked cool close up. Even Sigourney Weaver looked bored for the duration of the movie though. -
I like Alien 3, to a much lesser degree thna the first two films in the series but nonetheless. I always felt betrayed by the death of Hicks and Newt in the opening credits, I mean they could have been on another EEV so that Ripley would still have been presumed the lone survivor. Over time I realised that the slap in the face was more of a gear shift and that's what a sequel should be otherwise it's just more of the same. As to the continuity errors in A3 I always figured the Queen laid a spore on the wall, which gradually matured into an egg. Queen embryos could take a little longer to develop I suppose but who really knows how long Ripley had been impregnated for? As for the Sulaco being near an inhabitable world I guess the EEVs are programmed to find suitable environments to set down survivors and well it
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whoa, Proper's got a sweat. Glad I kept quiet over here, bad language does upset me. Definitely worse when pricks can't spell. You go Regicidal_Maniac! I think this talkback must've pretty much been exausted now, eh? Who's up for discussing the merits of Garfield?
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Jun 17, 2004 8:39:30 AM CDT
You know, I'd go and see Garfield if Lance Henriksen was in it.
by regicidal_maniac
Also if the, used to be kinda funny in 1987, Garfield gave birth to an orange-striped Alien. That, I would pay to see. Garfield, what happened man? You used to be cool.
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It looks like a piss-poor attempt at re-vitalizing two aging franchises and re-packaging them for a younger generation addicted to videogames and nu-metal. Circa 1989, I can remember vividly these two nerdy neighborhood stoners having a "heavy" conversation outside 7-11 about who would win in a fight, the predators or the aliens. One dork may have made a comment like "you gotta have humans in there, too....you know, to lend it the human perspective a la the shakespearian everyman." "Yes," says loser-virgin 2. "and maybe the humans could be corporate lackeys, because that is a theme that hasn't been done yet in either predator OR alien." Gimmie a break, this movie looks like total shit and is another nail in the coffins for both franchises. Instead of trying to resurrect old 80s shit, how about someone tries something new and original?
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When are they going to do the movie about Batman vs the Aliens? They had a cool comic series on that...it would be fuckin cool! Grampa bought me the trade paperback of that great series. --Matty Dryden
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Why do the both of them get deals? Anyhow, sure the trailer looks OK, and I learned to not judge things harshly without seeing them (Sorry Texas Chainsaw and Dawn Remakes.) But I am going by what Anderson did before. He botched a potential franchise with Resident Evil whose storyline just needed to be adapted properly. His excuse that he wanted to do something fresh was stupid. Anyone who never played RE should rent the Gamecube remake of Part 1 and see how superior it is to the movie version. Why didn't he just adapt the comic, and have it star Lucy Liu instead of Sanaa Lathan. And why the hell do they look like they have Abercrombie clothes on? I'm going to see the film hoping for the best, but given his track record I'm not expecting anything on the level of Aliens aka Alien 2.
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To the (at least) 3 dumbfucks above who are moaning and complaining that "PTA" or "Paul T Anderson" or "Paul Thomas Anderson" did a horrible job on Resident Evil and Event Horizon or whatever and will therefore do a horrible job on this -- pull your fucking heads out of your asses. PTA or Paul Thomas Anderson or PT Anderson is the genius who did Hard Eight, Boogie Nights, Magnolia and Punch Drunk Love. At least focus your nerd powers on the right Paul Anderson.
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The view and review link does not work. I clicked on it and got that wonderful 'site not found' error that we all know and love. I wanted to download it to keep it, but it looks like I'm stuck with just seeing it on Apple's trailer page dammit.
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It really cracks me up reading the shit people dribble on here. We obviously have a world FULL of top notch movie reviewers and directors. Whilst everyone is entitled to an opinion be it good or bad some of you meat heads who are offering who what why where and when about directors, storylines and what you would do if given the ropes to a movie need to do ONE thing. Get a life! I know that Hollywood is holding your pure and awesome talents back from the public but seriously, go back to tossing off to your Kmart or Wall Mart catalogues. Can we have something more constructive on here?????.
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The premise of Coning riply to get a queen was kinda genius - bringing back the character of riply and the queen, while also joining them, she has alien attributes, while the queen can give birth like a human. And how about that baby?? But beyond that... it was pretty bad. More dark halls and creepy lighting and corridors and cheap scares and .... yeah... Alien 3 fucked it all up. Cameron and Scott should both make an alternate alien 3. Based on both their films. That'd be kewl!
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just adding my two cents into the origin discussion. I agree, that would make for a more interesting story. Which is why I'm waiting for possible news on Alien 5, what with Cameron saying he wants to do an Alien homeworld film (supporting the "aliens are a naturally evolved species" idea he set up with Aliens (the hive, the queen etc.) and Scott wanting to do his idea where the aliens were engineered weapons (the crashed ship in the first film being a transport shipping them to a war zone for use).
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http://www.viewandreview.com/avp/
You can download the trailers directly from there!!
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I'm always amused by people who want to gripe about things like taking machine guns on an exploration of a pyramid in the Antarctic... in a movie that features ALIENS fighting one another. I mean... the entire premise of the movie requires the suspension of disbelief... so to gripe about "silly" stuff is more than amusing.
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The file name of the trailer was apparently changed, rendering that link to download it dead. Here's the new link with the new file new: http://www.viewandreview.com/avp/avpfinaltrailer.mov Download away and enjoy this kick-ass trailer! :)
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Jun 20, 2004 8:07:36 AM CDT
Mozz The security guys are there due to the local wildlife - Po
by kuifje
polar bears ...Antartica...!!!
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I don't understand why you guys think a PG-13 movie is so bad. Think about it. The movie makes more money. It's as simple as that. If the movie makes more money, than that means more films. If this movie flops I highly doubt we will be seeing Predator 3 or Aliens 5. This movie reportedly has a large budget, and look at how Terminator 3 turned out. Its budget was 175 million and it only pulled in 150 stateside. It did make a profit however, with a little help from worldwide grosses. Then look at lord of the rings three, a budget of around 125 million and stateside gross of 380 million. If you want sequels you want PG-13. You want one awesome gored up movie, you get one R rated movie. No sequels. It seems to me the movie is more teen-oriented, but I have yet to see it, so I will stop my conclusion jumping.
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