June 9, 2004, 9:49 p.m. CST
by el zar
Well, well. The grand-lookin' trailer may be an elaborate editing trick. I'll see.
June 9, 2004, 9:56 p.m. CST
If only i hadnt read the damn thing first. oh well. Good stuff Harry. Check out my interivew with mr.knowles ar http://www.mondoirlando.com/harry_knowles.html
June 9, 2004, 9:59 p.m. CST
that's about the read i expected. hopefully, there's enough love for it to merit book 2
June 9, 2004, 9:59 p.m. CST
I caught a screening of this movie last night in Detroit and I have to say that Harry and Quint's reviews are pretty spot-on. It's very, very underwhelming. I'd forgive cheezy special effects and space opera terms like "Necromongers" if the film had decent action sequences and characterization. But it doesn't. The only thing Quint and Harry failed to point out is that the action sequences are horribly directed and edited. Chronicles of Riddick uses the sloppy and choppy style that Hollywood seems to favor as of late, where every move is rendered undecipherable by poor angles and jumpy editing. This is a text book case of DVD rental...check it out for $3.50 when it hits Blockbuster. That's my whole hearted advice.
June 9, 2004, 10:08 p.m. CST
June 9, 2004, 10:10 p.m. CST
Um, wtf does that mean???
June 9, 2004, 10:13 p.m. CST
I don't have to waste my money to know this movie is tripe. The Dune feel of the trailor says it all. I find it interesting that there's no mention on this website of the passing of Ronald Reagan. Whatever your opinion of his politics he was an influential member of the movie community.
June 9, 2004, 10:26 p.m. CST
......just for the enjoyment of the production design and layered eye-candy. But having a complex story ain't so bad! Some people (like me) really like their Sci-Fi to have a bigger reach. Some folks just want "BUGS" and "ASS KICKING". But if you're the kind of person that really loves "Dune" -- for the very fact of its insanely complicated politics, sociology, and bizarre spiritual trappings -- then maybe you're the perfect audience for Chronicles of Riddick. Can't wait to see for myself!
June 9, 2004, 10:29 p.m. CST
by The Outlander
Personal I like the look of the film and I think Harry way off with his negative comments about the production design. This is an awesome looking film. I download the first 10 min of this film and they seriously kick ass. On a par with Lord of The Rings or the original Matrix. Can't wait to see the rest of it.
June 9, 2004, 10:41 p.m. CST
at last, i've read the opinions of other people who feel the same! she's a living plague, and blights everything around her! and her accent isn't even English, if it's supposed to be (i'm from the UK)! beeaatch.
June 9, 2004, 10:51 p.m. CST
June 9, 2004, 11:08 p.m. CST
However, this is the first review from Knowles in a long while where I felt he was telling me the truth, so thumbs up on that, big boy.
June 9, 2004, 11:43 p.m. CST
by Logo Lou
What the hell kind of an analogy is that? Bad idea to bring up Escape from New York, just proves what a pussy Riddick is compared to Snake. I bet if "not quite an anti-hero" Riddick saw a girl getting raped he wouldn't just keep walking on like Snake did. Too much acting tough, not enough being tough.
June 9, 2004, 11:48 p.m. CST
You say he has trouble with the grander scale portions of the film? I can forgive that, at least he's making the attempt. My favorite flicks are the ones that are so outlandishly different than the world I see everyday the only tether that keeps them from becoming truly alien is the fact that they were made by humans. I need an escapist adventure badly, and despite some of the mixed reviews it looks like twohy has provided one for me.
June 10, 2004, 12:14 a.m. CST
i had a stiffy for her long before this, when she played Gwen Raiden on Angel. DAMN that girl's fine... i'd hit it. so thank you joss whedon and the casting people of Angel for discovering her and the casting people putting her in those painted-on pants!
June 10, 2004, 12:26 a.m. CST
Don't know why, it just does. Like it looks like it could be really good...or kinda suck. It even has that grainy kind of look that seems, well, 'Duney'. I'm sure this is the type of movie that seems better on TV...like PB but, we'll see
June 10, 2004, 12:28 a.m. CST
I consider any review from harry as total crap. To say that POS was anything worth watching, I must say that someone at the studio is giving you a mighty nice rimjob. As for Riddick, Ill form my own opinions, which is more than I can say about half these losers here who worship your word as if God has spoken.
June 10, 2004, 12:38 a.m. CST
thought the same about the first one. so its good then? dont read reviews.
June 10, 2004, 12:41 a.m. CST
by Mosquito March
June 10, 2004, 1:58 a.m. CST
by Lazarus Long
...but I'm seeing a lot of the same complaints. That the "universe" Twohy has created is a little cheesy, and isn't given a whole lot of follow through. You can say what you want about Lucas, but he LOVES the world he's conjured up. The people who help him design all the SW stuff love it too, and it shows. I don't disagree with the prequel-haters when they say Lucas loves his toybox too much, because he does. It's just that some of us LIKE playing in every corner of that world. There really isn't anyone else BESIDES Lucas who's been able to come up with their own world on film, and have it really stand up to the test. Even the prequel-haters have to admit that Lucas' aliens and their civilizations don't feel forced or constructed on a set. Aside from Jar Jar, the underwater city and its inhabitants felt legit every step of the way. I didn't see people going "this is ridiculous". Same goes for the Clone-making aliens or the Geonosians in Episode 2. I know Lucas has the money and resources to really make this stuff hold up scientifically and logistically, but without any heart behind it things would still appear flat. And perhaps that's the different between Star Wars and stuff like Riddick and The Matrix. Lucas isn't trying to do "cool stuff" in a post modern way for AICN losers to jerk off to. I've said it before--in 10 years the sunglasses/trenchcoat crap and Diesel's posturing are going to look really stupid, if they don't already. Star Wars won't ever be dated, because it's out of time.
June 10, 2004, 2:10 a.m. CST
by Adrian Tripod
...and figured I'd toss in my 2 cents. I remember going to see PB and not expecting much more than a cheesy ALIEN-type ripoff, and got a lot more bang for my buck. Not brilliant, mind you, but Riddick's a great character and Twohy's got one of those great tech-geek imaginations that can cook up some pretty cool concepts. I hoped for more from TCOR, but expected more Hollywood bloat. Again, I was pleasantly surprised, but not as surprised as I wanted to be, if that makes any sense. You can grasp the scope of what Twohy's after, but it never quite clicks into place all the way. Comparisons to CONAN are apt, though it clearly falls short of Milius' masterpiece. Twohy obviously has DUNE in the back of his head, but what he ends up with resembles David Lynch's DUNE more than Frank Herbert's. There was less of the grating camera & cutting that marred PB, but also more convoluted plot and half-explored backstory, and that's its weakest point. All I wanted was to watch Riddick kick ass, but all the pretentious watered-down Shakespeare kind of got in the way. I agree with Harry - I kinda liked it. But it should have been a little more focused and a little less epic. Oh, and Judi Dench looks like Gandalf with a clean shave, and that's embarassing. And as cool as those eyes are, Riddick's "sad face" looks too much like a Herman Munster mask to be taken seriously.
June 10, 2004, 2:31 a.m. CST
That was the strenght of Pitch Black, this dangerous character being the only hope against unstoppable beasts. I wouldn`t mind if it`s epic, just make it about fighting creatures and the conflict about the good and bad inside Riddick. I still think there`s something very big that could be done with Riddick without going into Star Trek-like cultures of politics. More like say...James Cameron doing The Abyss but in a Aliens-like environment.
June 10, 2004, 2:39 a.m. CST
Finally, at Long last the sequel is coming back!! WHY DO THEY TAKE SO LONG to bring back a sequel that is SO Good!!! They just Don't want to make Much $$$... www.killercoke.org - MURDER THE REAL THING - Down in Columbia the Labout Leaders are being shot just because they want better then poverty labour wages!!! While CEO - Douglas Daft makes $1,000,000 and sits on his assets!!! www.tibet.org - Boycott "Made In China" and write the Olympic Committee to let them know you oppose(I Hope) giving the Olympic's to China for 2008!!! www.peta.org
June 10, 2004, 2:48 a.m. CST
by Wild At Heart
Hey, let's put 'em in a movie together. I'd pay to see that car wreck.
June 10, 2004, 5:31 a.m. CST
"In fact, just thinking about how pissed I was that I didn
June 10, 2004, 7:43 a.m. CST
Wow stop right there...yes MI2 and Truth About Charlie were pretty bad movies, but this babe can act pretty darn well. I think that the fact that shes so unbelievably hot works against her though. She is one of the best in the business though. Shes way above Vin Diesel when it comes to acting. If shes one of the worst things about this film - I'm gonna love this flick.
June 10, 2004, 7:50 a.m. CST
Well, with Reloaded anyway, Revolutions was a big improvement. The problem for me is nothing to do with whether they're 'dumb but pretending to be intellectual' or 'too deep and meaningful for most people to get', but that they were BORING. Philosophically deep or just faux-intellectual fluff, it wouldn't matter either way if they were actually interesting enough to sustain 4 hours of film. Look at Reloaded, from a plot point of view, what actually happens? Just how much of Reloaded actually has ANY bearing at all on Revolutions? Only the Smith stuff (and Hugo Weaving IS the saving grace of the sequels), and the very end where Neo has power in the real world, but falls into a coma. by smith stuff, I mean his spread through the Matrix and even into the real world. If you ask me, the Wachowskis could have made single sequel with just those elements from Reloaded and most of the stuff from Revolutions (with trimming), and it could have been a damn fine movie, no matter how much of their existential ponderings they filled it with. ---------- PS, I feel no need to defend Star Wars. All five films so far (and doubtless the last) have been corny, cheesy, quite frequently hammily acted, and childish, and I've loved them all. ----------- On topic though, I think I'll go see COR, but with low expectations. From the trailer, I was mildly intrigued by the production design; it seemed to have more than a little Giger influence in there along with the Dune/Stargate/SciFi channel-ness of the costuming and sets. And I did think Riddick was very cool in Pitch Black. But as others have said, I liked Pitch Black as a small, personal horror film (even though they killed off Claudia Black too soon, again as someone else said), I'm not sure the character should be stretched to a player in an epic sci-fi universe rumbler, although that's nothing to do with not liking that kind of thing, despite what one guy was saying about Harry's similar opinion. Sorry for the long post. :^)
June 10, 2004, 8:13 a.m. CST
Reloaded was bad, but revolutions was even worse...one of hte messiest films I have ever seen. It was quite simply badly assembled, lacking any energy...it was just, dull. which is why I hope this film doesn't turn out like that.
June 10, 2004, 9:27 a.m. CST
by Darth Sticky
Seriously folks, was anybody REALLY clamoring for a sequel to "Pitch Black?" I saw Pitch Black, I liked it, but it wasn't the type of movie I had to rush right out and see. All of David Twohy's movies have been like that for me. The Arrival was good to see at matinee price on a rainy Sunday afternoon, Pitch Black was decent enough to take your lady to so you could get some post-thriller-movie-nookie, and I wasn't really jumping out of my seat to catch Below. I'll go see Riddick, but only because I've seen everything else this summer. It can't be as bad as the Hulk. If you guys think it IS as bad as the Hulk, please, for Pete's sake, post it for me because I wouldn't want to waste my time. (Oh, and fuck Garfield).
June 10, 2004, 12:16 p.m. CST
First of all Clare, the studio did not come up with the idea of a sequel to pitch black, Twohy did. He had to sell his idea as viable to the studio. Hence the motivation behind the creation of Chronicles of Riddick was an idea, not audience demande. And lastly, if you think movies should be made only because of people clamoring for them you've been brainwashed by too many hollywood made-for-money-only movies. I'm not saying chronicles of riddick is good or anything (haven't seen it), but at least it was made by Twohy because he wanted to do it and not for the paycheck (although I'm sure he appreciated it). By the way, if you don't like his movies then don't go see them and let him make movies for those who like them. Movies aren't meant to appeal to everyone.
June 10, 2004, 1:51 p.m. CST
June 10, 2004, 1:52 p.m. CST
June 10, 2004, 2:35 p.m. CST
...to dip his bald head in oil and rub it all over Harry's naked body. At least in this latest review, Harry has somewhat restrained the expression of the boundless man-love he clearly feels for Mr. Mark Vincent.
June 10, 2004, 2:59 p.m. CST
No, Chronicles is definitely not as bad as the Hulk - or Van Helsing, for that matter. But upon viewing all three of those movies, I have to feel that there's something wrong with the executives at Universal. To think that they let movies like this slip through, seemingly without any "quality control". I mean, Chronicles of Riddick could have gone from "okay" to a pretty damn good sci-fi/action flick if only they had worked with the script and final editing a little more. If the script would have had more focus and character development (the potential is there, it just needed to be honed), and if the action scenes would have been directed and edited better (instead of the cluttered, indicpherable mess they are), Chronicles really could have been a step above the usual summer fair. But somehow Universal let this movie (and Hulk and Van Helsing) be released the way it is...when clearly it needed some fine tuning. Anyway, see this at your own risk. Just don't herald it as the next sci-fi classic (especially without having seen it) because it unfortunately isn't.
June 10, 2004, 3:14 p.m. CST
Really enjoyed reading that. Perfect balance between your usual style and a clear, clean critical eye. Nice one. And little or no spoilers too.
June 10, 2004, 4:46 p.m. CST
ITS ONE THING TO GIVE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, BUT IT ANOTHER THING TO JUST BE RUDE, HARRY. SHE MAY NOT BE THE BEST ACTRESS, BUT DONT DEGRADE HER BECAUSE YOU PERSONALLY DONT LIKE HER. i THINK SHE'S A GOOD ACTRESS!!!!!!
June 10, 2004, 5:43 p.m. CST
christ on a crutch Harry - after more than 4 years of writing on this site, can you at least attempt to give a quick look-see at your text to make sure it isn't confusing as hell? am i actually reading a triple negative in the finishing paragraph? you're sitting across town from one of the state's largest colleges - how about freeing up tuesday and thursday nights for English courses. you know, just to bone up on the smaller details of writing like, oh i don't know..clarity, being concise, stupid little details like that. _ i like this site, but damn man - put down the mountain dew, and make an outline ahead of time or something. .. .. ..having said that, this film looks like Dune Light.
June 10, 2004, 5:56 p.m. CST
One character is an elite soldier/warrior, the other is a holy man that was completely useless in Pitch Black and tripping over himself the whole time. Imam isn't a fighter. If he goes out with a whimper in TCOR, it fits.
June 10, 2004, 7:27 p.m. CST
And Vin Diesel looks like he has down syndrome. i can't imagine this movie being anything more than the drivel that was Van Helsing.
June 10, 2004, 7:37 p.m. CST
by Lost Skeleton
...don't ever disrespect the ultimate apple of my eye...Mrs. Thandie Newton. Otherwise, I was hoping this will be good but the critics on Rottentomatoes are killing this thing. This is turning out to be a bad summer. The only great film I have seen so far this year is Potter 3! I hope "2" rocks on 6/30/04 Oh, Nintendo is a racist bitch!
June 10, 2004, 9:46 p.m. CST
You all suck dick.
June 10, 2004, 9:52 p.m. CST
But I'm not going to tell you what they are. If you don't know what they are, then you are obviously too limited to understand this gnosis. There is no sense asking me for examples because a truly great teacher makes you work out the final answer for yourself.
June 10, 2004, 11:03 p.m. CST
This is The Matrix sequels all over again... In nearly every review I've read of "Riddick", the words "to complicated" and "confusing" are present. Am I the only one who's fed up with the stupidity of moviegoers these days? How fucking hard is it for you to sit there and follow a deep compicated story? The only reason this movie is not getting good reviews is the same reason The Matrix sequels did not get good reviews... that is that it has a STORY! HOLY SHIT GOD FORBID A STORY!! Once again, the useless morons of America fail to realize someone's cinematic vision and dismiss it as being bad because they are far to stupid and narrow-minded to do so. You know what, don't see this movie... go watch Mean Girls or something you fuckin' retards.
June 11, 2004, 1 a.m. CST
I hate misspellings like this one: Riddick is taken into the head Necromonger
June 11, 2004, 1:34 a.m. CST
Riddick is going to be big but where are the reviews for the real movie opening this weekend. Garfield is going to rock our collective socks off. Have'nt you all seen the trailers for this well produced film. Believe the hype, Garfield is going to rock.
June 11, 2004, 1:51 a.m. CST
I did a search on this site for a review of the latest jack black vehicle "Envy" and only found two articles from a YEAR ago babbling about how exciting it looked! Yet, no follow-up? What's up with that? lol. In the movie jack black's character invents something called "vapoorizer" that makes shit disappear. My question is: where does the shit go? Does it get "faxed" in another existence where all your left socks go? Or where those damn black ball point pens disappear to? Or does it get recycled as van helsing? Or "the core:? or "the girl next door"? This is an outrage and talkbackers need something else to spew about.
June 11, 2004, 1:52 a.m. CST
I enjoyed Flirting with Thandie and Nicole. How about you?
June 11, 2004, 2:01 a.m. CST
Look, the first matrix movie was cinematic magic. It was smart, engaging, pushed the boundaries of special effects, and generated some impressive pop-culture references right up there with StarWars and Big Trouble in little china that you could throw out at any party and know that people around you will "get it". The follow ups were crap, nk? I have never been so offended in my life. Those damn wachowski brothers think they are infused with the spirit of kubrick by not talking to the public. It was cute when the first film came out....stupid when "reloaded" came out. And downright retarded when "revolutions" came out. I hated the dialogue in both films. I hated the fact that trinity died at the end of "revolutions". I hate the ambiguous ending which threatens to spin off into more damn "episodes" and matrix related bullshit that I refuse to buy. Think about it, why not just wrap things up at the end of revolutions? Why carry neo off somewhere we can't see? is he groud up into beef and fed to the robots pit-bulls? Made into a uni-sexual playtoy ala the kids from stargate? Who knows? who cares?? fuck the matrix and fuck joel silver for not slamming his foot down and taking control over the films. I hope WB bans those moronic brothers from their lot for LIFE and they look into getting a real job instead of wasting MY Life and the rest of you people with those poor excuses of films. ARGH! Oh, and notice how long it took trinity to DIE? Grrrr!!!!!! They killed her OFF those bastards!
June 11, 2004, 3:14 a.m. CST
I was being facetious. Nerd's,man.
June 11, 2004, 3:45 a.m. CST
Well written? Yes, but totally unreliable. Riddick fails, Which is terrible because I walked into this film wanting to love it. Now I realize that this is a planned part of a trilogy but offering little to no backstory is just ridiculous. What the fuck are the Necromongers? How did the come to be? Are they dead? What the fuck is an underverse and why can't anyone go there? All these questions up in the air. The film basically says "These are the bad guys. Fear them" and leaves you to your own devices. Fearing them is also a problem considering them seem totally incompetant. It's what I call the stormtrooper effect. You are told how bad ass they are but in execution they are total candy asses. The difference is Star Wars was made in the 70's and was the first film of it's kind, whats Riddick's excuse? Quint was also right about Riddick going soft. The character is downright dull compared to the warrior we got in Pitch Black. He's more or less a benevolent force at this point. In other words boring. I am also baffled as to why Riddick cares so much for Kyra. Every last action he makes is basically done for her and nothing in Pitch Black sets that sort of relationship up. Yeah she's hot but he didn't know that until he got to the prison planet. Therefore when the finale comes it is completely without weight or merit. Also why should Riddick give a damn about his race? It's not like they set up a past for Riddick where he had some sort of happy childhood or is given any reason so champion the "Furyan" cause. It's totally out of character for someone who is supposed to feel nothing for anyone but himself. The film also talks about many different races and species of human but never tells us how these races got to be the way they are. How the fuck did some people gain the ability to turn into air or have superhuman strength a la Riddick? It's this type of mythology that good sci fi films offer and Riddick lacks. Twohy needs to learn a thing or two about pacing. I don't know how he managed to make a movie that moves so fast feel so damn long. Maybe it's because the action scenes are so forced. They just happen without any rhyme or reason and byt he time they are over nothing in the plot has changed. This might be excusable if the action was competantly directed. What Riddick has is a serious case of MTV style editing thats so quick most of the time you can't discern who is fighting who. I think we've gotten to the point now where a fight has no excuse not to be well choreographed. Moviegoers today are spoiled and you can't offer them up one poorly concieved fight after the next and expect them to be at all impressed. There wasn't one fight that I didn't want to be over with as fast as possible, especially the one between Riddick and Lord Marshal. You see in a fight scene between the bad guy and the good guy you know how it's gonna turn out so the element of surprise is gone. The audiemce knows what is going to happen. Therefore if the fight in execution isn't fun and inspiring to watch what's the point of having it? I notice they also often leave things unsaid simply for conveniances sake. Like how the fuck does the entire universe not know about the Necromongers by now? They have obviously been doing this world destroying thing for a while. They say in there that this guy is the sixth Lord Marshal. And what is this prophecy bullshit? Will you fucking writers quit using prophecies as a way to make the protagonist fit into some spiritual plane that atificailly makes him more epic than he needs to be! Why can't an individual just rise to the throne of being a hero? Why does it always need to be some part of Fate/God/The universes master plan? It's a cheap way to build up a story.
June 11, 2004, 3:53 a.m. CST
Seriously talkbacks, grow a brain or somethin`. Or least learn what a great work of cinema is without everything revolving around Star Wars and LOTR or any other geek franchises.
June 11, 2004, 4:44 a.m. CST
Wow. This is the most useless talk back. It seems like people are concentrating more on The Matrix and Spongebob than they are this movie. I went into this film not knowing much about it. I had never seen Pitch Black, but I've never thought too highly of Vin. I could understand the story and didn't have too many questions, at least none that mattered in the whole grand scheme of things. My problem was with the shots and editing. There were points when I felt sick to my stomach because the shots jumped around so much. When I got home, the next night, I watched Pitch Black. I must say, I wasn't impressed. There were moments, but at the same time, I realized that Vin used some of the same dialogue in the first film as he did in COR. It wasn't even just similar wording. It was the exact same words. Overall, I think the film was alright, but I'm glad I didn't pay 8 bucks to see it.
June 11, 2004, 5:26 a.m. CST
by Jon E Cin
Its not amazing..but its worth the money to see it. I liked it better then pitch black. I thought the art direction was great and Vin was bearable sometimes. He really should limit himself to 3 lines per movie.
June 11, 2004, 5:41 a.m. CST
Out of 50 reviews (so far), exactly 15 are considered positive. That's 30% positive. I'm just sayin'...it's gotta be pretty shitty (not "Garfield" shitty, mind you, but "Punisher" shitty -- you know, Moriarty's favorite kind of shitty).
June 11, 2004, 8:35 a.m. CST
Remember when Highlander II made what was cool about the first movie and scrapped it for some cheesy sci-fi backstory. GL did it when he came up with midichlorians. The Matrix Reloaded started it and Revolotions continued to make a world or worlds if you will that are so convuluted that they cease to be interesting. I understand that the Wachowski Brothers are confused, well at least one of them is utterly confused. Has his weiner been chopped off yet? Okay, sorry I couldn't resist the sex change joke but maybe that nut jobs gender confusion is a great metaphor for what's been going on in these movies. Anyway I think I'm going to see this trash just to be amused.
June 11, 2004, 9:32 a.m. CST
But I'll watch anything she's in. I even sat through "The Truth About Charlie" which was hilarious because of Marky mark's variety of 'hats'.
June 11, 2004, 1:21 p.m. CST
I'm not defending the matrix sequel here (they were nowhere near as good as the originla but nowhere near as bad as people make them out to be), but thanls for proving with your overly long post that you in fact don't get the subtexts of the matrix movies. Anyone claiming, as you do, to see all the subtexts and fully understand the movies would have chosen another subtext than the 'know yourself and rise above conformity' because that's one of the most obvious ones... and don't say you used it because it was the most important one. It wasn't (unless it reached you particulary because of your situation or something). I won't even go into all the other wrong stuff in your post, because I'd end up with a post as long as yours...except to say this: there is no reason to say words like werewolves or vampires do not belong in the matrix
June 11, 2004, 2:30 p.m. CST
Thomas A. Anderson, its the worst thing Sci-fi action movie since Revolutions of last year
June 11, 2004, 3:36 p.m. CST
I do think the effects were a bit crappy, to much just obscuring and distorting everything. But I saw enough good action good scenes and good creative storytelling to make it worth the ticket price. I think the disappointments with the film may have something to do with the fact that they cut out a lot of the dramatic beats in the story So it would be nice to see a directors cut of this movie. Also, one last comment: Worldbuilding is a difficult enterprise. It's also something that's farely new at this scale and complexity for Hollywood. If in five or ten years they aren't better at this, then I'll complain, but right now, I think it's healthy for filmmakers to experiment in this new field of cinematic storytelling.
June 11, 2004, 3:50 p.m. CST
Industry Killer's review is spot-on. This film is not the sci-fi epic that everyone wants it to be. Even Cinescape gave it a "C" and they're typically generous.
June 11, 2004, 7:49 p.m. CST
Although I pretty much agreed with the review, it's troubling to see Harry go out of his way to play politics and make excuses for a failure of a film... recognition in Hollywood has been detrimental to Harry's writing and his integrity.
June 11, 2004, 8:15 p.m. CST
by Twisted Wisdom
Twoy took a chance and took the time to lay the ground work for the rest of the trilogy in this movie. I think he could have just settled with giving everyone a cool movie that everyone could have been satisfied with, and just kept it simple. But I think he decided to get as much information out there on his story as he could, just in case no more of the trilogy would be made. He told us who the major players were, and gave us bits and pieces of the mythology. I'm sure the rest will be revealed in the movies to come, if they get made. Unlike Harry, I'm glad Twoy made this movie on the grand scale that he did. It means he took a risk to give the audience something big. He could have just put Riddick on one planet and played out another Pitch Black scenario, but he chose not to. Basically he could have turned Riddick into a James Bond type of character, or an Indiana Jones, where all you get is just another episode, and the character does the same things in each movie, with the same outcome. Why do that? What Twoy has done is create a universe were you don't know what's going to happen, you don't know who's going to live or die, and the repercussions of any action can be enormous. Is this a masterpiece? No. But it's not a shitfest either. I was entertained, it has me interested and it caught my attention. I just hope it makes enough money so the rest of the trilogy can be made, and we can get the rest of the story. I think it gets better from this point forward. Ask yourself if Star Wars would have been as big as it was, if The Phantom Menace was the first one made instead of A New Hope? It may not have made it past TPM, but in TPM you get alot of the information that you need to understand what comes in the rest of the series. That's what this "Riddick" movie has done, and that's what it's purpose was. Twoy just tried to entertain "too" as he gave us the ground work. I hope Riddick does make it. But even if it doesn't, I like and respect what Twoy has done so far. I like what Vin Deisel has done on this project too. And oh, ** Spoiler Alert ** Kyra's not dead, she's now half-dead. Having begun the treament to be converted into a necromonger, there's no way she doesn't appear in the rest of the series. No way. I look forward to seeing this actress much more in the future.
June 11, 2004, 8:49 p.m. CST
by jules windex
Beloved actually WAS a good performance(albeit a bad film), she was at worst ok in MI2, and was excellent in Charlie. She's always been solid in other films like Gridlock and Jefferson In Paris.
June 12, 2004, 1:07 a.m. CST
by Gustav Niemann
Great review because you totally nailed the film. What you wrote captures just what I felt. I wholeheartedly agree with your viewpoint.
June 12, 2004, 1:22 a.m. CST
Saw Riddick today. Wish I hadn't. I know making a movie is a hard ass thing to do. Making a great movie is practically impossible. Many men and women have tried and failed. Thowy is one of those guy who you can tell loves the genre and that's a good thing. But with this latest effort I think he ran in to the pitfall of being given too much budget. That shit makes your mind wander Ah, well...Maybe Cameron will do something with Battle Angel Alita...maybe...
June 12, 2004, 1:25 a.m. CST
Saw Riddick today. Wish I hadn't. I know making a movie is a hard ass thing to do. Making a great movie is practically impossible. Many men and women have tried and failed. Thowy is one of those guy who you can tell loves the genre and that's a good thing. But with this latest effort I think he ran in to the pitfall of being given too much budget. That shit makes your mind wander Ah, well...Maybe Cameron will do something with Battle Angel Alita...maybe...
June 12, 2004, 1:43 a.m. CST
Whats wrong with you people? This was a good movie. Okay I probably would have gone a different way with the art direction too... but that's really the only thing I would have changed. This was a fun space romp. I paid my money and was entertained for 2 hours. What else do you want?
June 12, 2004, 1:49 a.m. CST
Oh btw Matrix was one of the best mindf**k movies of all time. The twist was simple yet mindblowing. I get the feeling that when they were writing revolution/reloaded they all sat in a room going "Okay let's top that" and they failed miserably, they took themselves too seriously / tried to hard and mindblowing part was convoluted at best.
June 12, 2004, 1:55 a.m. CST
Well, although it appears the critics yet again do not agree with me (or as it appears, the general public) I personally thought the Chronicles of Riddick was a great Sci-Fi epic. About the only things I saw wrong with it was the lack of deep explaination to many of the universe's quirks. I would have loved to know more about Furyans or Elementals, was kinda confused as to if they were evolved races of humans, just humans with supernatural powers, or if they were 'aliens' per say. I think that the originality of this movie was incredible as well. Although the names like 'necromongers' was a little cheesy, I thought it served it's purpose well. That is about all I can say that the move lacked. Overall it was a fun ride, worth the money for a ticket to see in theaters. I would say, if you are a fan of Star Wars or Dune, or liked the Riddick character from Pitch Black, you should really go see this movie! Also, as a side note, now seeing the trailers and tv clips, after seeing the movie, I've realized there are a ton of scenes that have been removed from the final cut. In addition, the movie was cut down late in production to a PG-13 level to attract a bigger audience (and I must say, it's barely PG-13). With the amount of scenes they cut out, there could be a really nice treat for those who enjoyed the movie when it comes out on DvD if there is an Unrated version or Directors Cut.
June 12, 2004, 2 a.m. CST
HARRY is the same guy who reviewed VAN HELLSING yet "kinda" liked Riddick? Gimme a fucken break man, and all you other morons out there who never like a fucken movie, get a new fucken hobby and stop bitching cuz in reality you mother fuckers dont even like movies. Riddick, great fun movie, bottom line.
June 12, 2004, 3:27 a.m. CST
I thought they could have gone a bit more into what the Underverse was and what was so special about a Furyon, details about what was what. Other then that though I had a good time, I just wish I could have seen the entire movie instead of what was released. The shakey cam sucked, but I could tell what was going on, I just wish movies would stop using it in every single fight scene.
June 12, 2004, 4:15 a.m. CST
by Jon E Cin
June 12, 2004, 4:18 a.m. CST
by Jon E Cin
She was pretty stiff..Harry is hit the bullseye with this review!
June 12, 2004, 6:13 a.m. CST
by Man w No Name
But really really liked Hellboy, said Blade 2 was like eating pussy, and love episodes 1 and 2. Who are we kidding here? when it comes to science fiction, harry knows jack shit. How can you kinda like this movie...either shit or get off the pot. I thought this movie kicked ass. And I can't wait to see it again on Monday. Fuck all the elitist Vin Diesel haters, be pussies and watch Shrek and Spiderman, and Episode 1 over and over again...save the real sci-fi/action adventure for the real men.
June 12, 2004, 9:42 a.m. CST
by Mad Hamish
Read the movie tie-in novel by Alan Dean Foster. It's based on David Twohy's original shooting script (I think) and contains all sorts of extra stuff that will probably end up on the R-rated directors cut dvd. I know that some of these extra scenes were filmed because I see bits and pieces of them in the trailers, including a cool scene where Riddick gets in touch with his Furyan "force-powers". There is also an appendix that provides a history of the Necromongers, and contains cool shit that we'll probably see in the sequels (if there are sequels). I will reserve my final judgment on TCOR, however, until I see the director's cut (the recently released extended edition of Underworld changed my opinion from "hated it" to "sorta liked it"), but I will say this: strobe lights + rapid editing + shaky camera = BIG FUCKING HEADACHE.......that's just a little word of advice to Mr. Twohy and all you other Hollywood filmmakers out there.
June 12, 2004, 10:29 a.m. CST
Dear lord, what an incoherent fiasco. Riddick makes the Star Wars prequels and the Matrix sequels look like sci-fi masterpieces for the ages. When the hell did David Twohy turn into Michael freakin' Bay?
June 12, 2004, 10:35 a.m. CST
June 12, 2004, 5:26 p.m. CST
by Stan the Bat
You know what some of you Matrix-apologist-types remind me of? There's a scene in one of the Winnie The Pooh books in which Roo asks Tigger if Tiggers can fly, and Tiggers says, "Of course they can- they just don't WANT to. They just don't like it, somehow." Uh-huh. And the Matrix is a profound expression of a very deep theological.. and philosophical... uh... somethingoranother. And I could explain it to you if I wanted to. I just don't want to.
June 12, 2004, 7:09 p.m. CST
Compared to whatever else has come out lately (which isn't much) yes, Riddick is better. But is that saying much? Check the competition. The problem with Riddick is that it wasn't so much a horrible movie. The world that Twohy, I think, was shooting for just wasn't fully realized. And they were easy fixes that could have been made but somehow and for some reason they weren't fixed. Studio intereference? I know he had to chop it up to make it work for the suits. So, who knows. Maybe the director's cut will tell. Even the recent director's cut version of ALIEN3 ended up being a better ride when some footage was restored and the plotline was tweaked a bit.
June 12, 2004, 7:20 p.m. CST
This movie was a waste of goddamn time. It wasn't even the mindless fun/action sci-fi/guilty pleasure I was hoping for. I went in with minimal expectations - coherent story, decent effects, acting and fighting. I got nothing. If you haven't seen it yet, don't.
June 12, 2004, 7:43 p.m. CST
Why we still worry about Harry's opinion is, I think, worthy of some real analysis. I thought this film was a lot of fun, and has a universe I would, personally, like to see more of. The last 10 seconds are great. And did you crack up when Dame Vakko shouts at her husband: "You will never see the UNDERVERSE!" I am hard of hearing, and it sounded like she said 'underwears'. So, who gives a rip if Harry kinda like it or not. We can think for ourselves, right? Or not.
June 12, 2004, 9:11 p.m. CST
These are always the big budget crapfests that are generally "okay", but are forgotten the moment you leave the theater. Meaning? They're crap fests. They have big sequences that make you go WOW, but the movie as a whole is usually garbage. When it comes on TV in a couple of years you'll change the channel.
June 12, 2004, 9:18 p.m. CST
I just caught The Chronicles of Riddick this Saturday in Washington, DC (I was happy to notice that it was a full house for a 4:10 showing) and have to say that I really enjoyed this movie. Everything is big in this film; epic is the only way to describe it. The sensation that Riddick is caught up in events beyond his control (though he comes off as arrogant
June 12, 2004, 10:12 p.m. CST
Alright cloud rider.... here's the deal... I think the matrix sequels are decent ACTION movies... heck I,d say reloaded was more satisfying for the mind than most other action movies...revolution was entertaining, but what philosophy there was seemed forced to me. I want to say this there are subtexts in the matrix...and I don't mean subtexts that are so far fetched they are only imaginery...however, I want to clear this up : The beauty of the matrix isn't the subtext, but the philosophy (yes, some may call it subtext, but I don't want to have any confusion with stuff like this represents this and that stand for that). How many philosophical action movies do you know about? Heck, most movies that try to pass off as philosophical usually end up sappy. I'll give you this though the phylosophical stuff in the sequels does feel way more forced than in the first one (mostly in revolution), though they are still better with it than without. I know I haven't supplied any answers to you, it's not because I don't want to (by the way I don't claim to know everything so don't think what I'll point out --when I do-- is the end all be all of what the matrix movies are), the reason is : I have a very crappy memory (I can't even remember what I claimed in my first post). So I'll watch reloaded again tomorrow and I'll get back to you, to make sure I'm not confused with the first one. By the way when you ask about answers I assume you mean about the sequels (you don't seem to critisize the original as much). I had something else to say regarding something in your posts, but I forgot what that was, so I'll just end with this : Where so you get off bitching at the people with 'darth' in their nick names? Obviously they are star wars fans, but why do you bitch at them because of their tastes? Oh I'm sorry, I meant because they like the same things. Let them be. By the way if you think you are so much better than them why do you keep coming back to this talk back so many times??? Don't you have some thing better to do sometimes? I'll post one more time in this 'conversation' tomorrow or the day after (yes because of you...feel proud?), and I hope that'll be the end of it. I'm too tired....I hope my post makes sense
June 12, 2004, 11:42 p.m. CST
Spoilers. really, think about it. the same plot mechanisms. loner antihero costner (riddick) looking to be left alone is dragged into a conflict to protect a township community (planet) against a group of mauraders (necromongers) sweeping up townships (planets) and killing any who dont give in to their will (conversion). The bad guys in both have a creedo by which you gain power by defeating those above you in combat (you keep that which you kill). Both movies end the exact same way. Loner challenges and defeats head of maruader group to become its new leader and save the day.
June 13, 2004, 1:01 a.m. CST
I spent today checking out reviews for this movie and decided to check it out for myself. If you're looking for the start of some grand epic, then you are in for a disappointment. But if you go in looking for a little action from an intergalactic bad-ass, then this is definately your flick. My view on a couple of comments made.... Thandie..I saw MI2 but that movie blew so bad that I couldn't find fault in her acting, in fact I don't even remember her part. I haven't seen any of her other movies, so I can't comment on her overall ability. But in this movie she does seem kind of detached. Like she really could give two fucks less about what's going on around her. BUT, in her favor, every other Necromonger, save the big guy himself, seems just as detached as she does. So maybe it's just her part. The scale seemed alright to me. True, you got this overwhelming huge event going on around Riddick, but he still shines. The antihero/ not anti hero issue. He may end up the "saving" the day, but it really isn't as big a thing as everyone makes out. Let me explain, and from here down there will be spoilers..... He is asked to stand up and fight for the people, he basically says Fuck You, and is about to bounce. He gets caught up in his escape between this planet and the Necromongers. He never makes a stand for the average man..fuck, he stands up for his friend, but I never got the impression he ever gave two shits for what happened to anyone else. After getting off that planet, he uses the Mercs to get to Jack/Kyra on Crematoria. His only goal as far as I could tell was getting them out of there. Then Kyra get's taken during the battle for escape, when Necromongers show up..and he goes and takes on Big Man, not because he is this big "Has to save the day" hero, but because they have something he wants. He's still the same old "Fuck it" Riddick that he was in PB. It just so happens that while he is trying to get what he wants, he gets control over a conquering army of Necromongers. The issue is one of perception. When you saw PB did you truly believe that he was "completely" the monster he was made out to be? In my experience, even the most hateful people have a deeper side that noone takes the time to get to know. And we don't know that he really saved anything. At the end of CoR he is struck by the death of Kyra..what if he gets over it and decides to finish conquering the galaxy? Have to wait and see if they do anything else with it. As for the Matrix trilogy, I loved the first movie. But it left me with the quetion of "What are they gonna do next.." and I was filled with anticipation to see what they had in mind. But what came out, made me kind of wonder if THEY even knew where they were going with it. The last two films just felt thrown together, and I couldn't find any flow to it.
June 13, 2004, 2:22 a.m. CST
June 13, 2004, 2:36 a.m. CST
If you want more sci-fi you better support this. look what happend to starship troopers people didn,t support it and that killed it.I think riddick is the best new sci fi we have had in years.at least somebody try,d to make something cool lord knows nobody else is trying
June 13, 2004, 3:17 a.m. CST
Yeah but Starship Troopers had a cool Fascist subtext to it. It was worth supporting, even if no one did. Riddick has...Vin Diesel.
June 13, 2004, 10 a.m. CST
by Stan the Bat
I'm not worried.
June 13, 2004, 10:27 a.m. CST
the movie ruled... fucking loads amount of fun... it was everything in a sci-fi movie that has been missing since the last decent sci-fi movie, which is? who knows... def. not those turds we call the prequels to the one of the most over-rated trilogies of al time, Star Wars... Newton is fucking and so is this movie, i am going to see it again in the theaters because i want another one... and i am a 23 year old college grad. out. oh ...here is a quote from Quentin Tarantino.... relates to comic movies, but can easily be used to link sci-fi movies to the haters.... Director Quentin Tarantino, whose latest film is the action-thriller Kill Bill: Volume One, told the Zap2It.com Web site that he avoids comic-book adaptations because of the genre's traditionally zealous fans. "The reason I'll never do a comic-book movie with, like, The Flash or something like that is f--- those comic-book geeks, man." Tarantino told the site. "You can't please them. I might do a comic-book movie, but I'd come up with my own characters where I'm God and I'm the expert and not you guys." The outspoken Pulp Fiction director was also quoted as saying, "The thing is, film geeks can be your best friend, but man, they can be your worst enemy."
June 13, 2004, 11:33 a.m. CST
by Serious Black
This was the most entertaining movie I've seen in a while. There's obviously a lot of backstory that goes unexplained, but who gives a fuck? The movie is about Riddick and how much ass Riddick can kick. End of story. The action was quick but very good. Everything about this movie was leagues better than anything in Pitch Black. I am actually shocked that I enjoyed this a helluva lot more than Prisoner of Azkaban, which I think is best Harry Potter yet. Many of Knowles' complaints are nonsense. Who the hell complains about the acting in a Vin Diesel movie? Thandie Newton is a great actor compared to Vin. And the set design is perfect for a society that is essentially a cult of intergalactic world-destroying Satanists. Much of the film has a mythological feel to it. After seeing Riddick I think Twohy could have pulled off a better Troy than Wolfgang did. And finally I have to applaud the final fight scene. Every action movie has to have one, where the hero goes mano-a-mano with the bad guy, but Riddick manages to do something very cool which I haven't seen before. A rarity in our post-Matrix world.
June 13, 2004, 12:28 p.m. CST
I love the slam on the overzelous followers and emmisaries of religions. But after hearing that they cut a lot out of it, it seems like all the interesting stuff was taken out. Just as the story got interesting they had to start running. Its as if they had a meaty story and stripped it down to enhance the action scenes. The use of "hero" music was kept to a min, but I don't think it should've been incorporated at all. And it's 700 degrees outside, but they're fine if they hide in the shade??? But who knows, maybe the stuff they cut was really bad? Hopefully we'll get a director's cut on DVD. It's a shame, I had been looking forward to this.
June 13, 2004, 12:40 p.m. CST
Caught me by surprise. Hope they get the greenlight to make another one to finish up the tale. But hopefully they won't have to make LCD (Lowest Common Denominator) cuts.
June 13, 2004, 1:10 p.m. CST
(Right after SW and TESB) A lot has been made of the cuts made to this film. I agree that we're not given the full story in this movie but I never cared. The action is great, Vin's the ultimate badass, and everything moves fast enough that the story details are not missed. I'm not sure if the restored cuts would help the movie if they slow down the pace. Plotwise this movie is sort of a throwback to the old Rambo movies, which was great for me. Knowing that this was planned as the first movie of a trilogy, I was really afraid that we'd stuck with some bullshit cliffhanger ending. But the ending has got to be one of the best endings for an action movie ever (certainly better than the hour-long multiple endings for ROTK). I've read the negatives, and all I can say is I strongly disagree. Sure this movie is never going to win any awards, but it's got great action, a great anti-hero, and could possibly be the beginning of the next great space epic.
June 13, 2004, 1:27 p.m. CST
...four things. ***SPOILERS HEREIN*** First, although we see the sun dramatically baking the landscape, remember the thermometer in the guard booth. It took some time (granted not much) to reach a full 700 degrees so they weren't standing in the shade during the peak temperature. Second, it's been awhile for me but physics class taught us that different materials have different capacities to absorb heat. We must assume the mountain they were on (and of course the hangar) were composed of stuff that absorbed the heat rather than reflected it. Third, being on Crematoria we can assume all the facilities had really powerful AC units. And finally, they were obviously really hot because they were all sweating like stuffed pigs. ***END SPOILERS*** That's it, enough rationalization from me. Again, I really liked the movie. I'll probably get the DVD, especially if it's a Director's Cut (just out of curiosity).
June 13, 2004, 1:32 p.m. CST
One of the problems with this film is that it didn't develop any of its concepts far enough. These Necromongers - were they meant to be a commentary on overzealous Christians? Islam? In the end, they weren't anything other than a qausi-religious version of the Borg. The action was too fast and dizzying to watch, and edited like a music video. This film could have been very good but in the end it's a wasted opportunity. And to compare it to any of the original SW movies is just "Riddick-ulous". This movie wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for the original SW trilogy.
June 13, 2004, 2:22 p.m. CST
by Gere's AssGerbil
Critics, Harry included, know dick about action/fantasy movies. They like crap like Pirates of the Caribbean and Hellboy. Fuck that shit. What we've got here is movie with balls that doesn't feel the need to spell out every detail but focuses on what's important, namely the fact that Riddick is an unstoppable bad motherfucker. If that's not enough for those pretentious bastards, then I really feel sorry for them. They're missing out on one hell of a movie.
June 13, 2004, 2:29 p.m. CST
by Gere's AssGerbil
Didn't develop it's concepts far enough? Are you kidding me? It's Vin-fucking-Diesel. The only concept you need to get is that he'll kill any fuckers stupid enough to get in his way. What's so hard about that? It ain't War and Peace. It's one evil dude taking on army of evil dudes and he stomps their asses so hard they've gotta admit it at the end and say "Yeah, you da man." How could anyone not fucking love this movie?
June 13, 2004, 2:35 p.m. CST
I'm hearing stan-the-bat on this one. I wanted this movie to be good. I really did. But why support this movie if it is going to set the bar for a bunch of other mediocre genre flicks? Studio execs cater to the lowest common denominator. They think all we want to do is watch stuff blow-up and our hero's spout off bad one liners that a sixth grader could write. (I'm generalizing here, folks) Everything is cyclical, though. Star Wars, CE3K, Alien(s), Terminator, Matrix...soon, someone will come and hit it out of the park once again. Maybe that's the reason we even bother. We know someone will rise up and destroy all pretenders with another mind blowing movie sporting excellent characters, writing, directing, etc... So, thinking about it. Why even bother complaining? There will always be great and there will always be great pieces of crap. I'll wait patiently for the great.
June 13, 2004, 2:45 p.m. CST
by Darth Thoth
I think Moriarity's review of this movie nailed it right on the head. I enjoyed the movie. I am happy whenever somebody makes a movie for fans. This movie, while maybe not the greatest, is STILL very good. It's a sci-fi nut's dream. Great fun. A summer movie. Definitely the role Vin Diesel's best suited for. Of course I can find faults but I'd rather just sit back and enjoy a treat us sci-fi geeks should be appreciative of having. Can't wait to see it again.
June 13, 2004, 2:47 p.m. CST
If the point of the movie truly was to just watch Vin Diesel kick ass, then I would have been pleased with the film...IF the actions had been directed competently. No doubt that the movie gave itself plenty of opportunities for kick-ass action sequences...but the editing was so fast paced, everything came out a blur. I don't know how anyone could say ANY of those fights were well-choreographed or exciting. I just saw a MTV-styled mess of quick cuts and poor angles.
June 13, 2004, 4:11 p.m. CST
I have a question: Why the Thandie hating? Do all the villainesses of film have to drub you to death with the fact that they are bad, evil women? She depicts, very well I think, a brand of evil we see very seldom in film: 'innocent evil'. Read 'People of the Lie' by M Scott Peck to find out what that is... Also, did MI:2 really blow that badly? What was bad about it? The fights were brutal, the shoot-out in the lab was fun, the story was a great update of 'North By Northwest", the cinematography was lively...You know, it is a movie about IMPOSSIBLE things being done by a SUPER SPY....I will never understand why geeks go on about how 'believable' a stunt is. Sure the mask thing was a bit silly, but essential. I thought the movie would have been a lot better with out the 'shrimp on the barbi" pilot guy and Ving Rhames complaining about his Versace...but whatever...
June 13, 2004, 4:19 p.m. CST
And one other thing: Why the Diesel hating? Are you telling me you would prefer the Rock as the new Action-Man of film? Vin Diesel, in spite of what you all seem to believe, is very intelligent, has made some great action movies, and also has made a film called "Multi-Facial", which is a great short film. Watch that short, then come back and complain that Diesel is somehow a hack. He has charisma to spare, and is totally believable as an ass-kicking monster. He owns every scene he is in in Riddick, and is, I think, pretty a fucking amazing physical actor. The Rock is pleasant and all, but a pair of undulating eyebrows an actor do not make. The Rundown was fun, but for a second, did you ever think you were watching anything other than The Rock in a Star Vehicle?
June 13, 2004, 5:38 p.m. CST
This movie (which I finally saw last night) was so mind-bendingly awful I just don't know where to begin. The story was shit. Every actor gave a shitty performance. The dialogue was shit (sensing a theme here?). Every scene involved a Vin Diesel "pose" and grunted dialogue. It was truly awful. This movie goes into the pantheon of one of the top five worst movies I've ever seen. There was just nothing redeeming about this travesty. Stay away, stay FAR away!
June 13, 2004, 5:46 p.m. CST
For all of you retards saying that people didn't "get it" because they don't know anything about sci-fi... well, there's nothing to "get" morons. The movie's a steaming turd, plain and simple. I don't care what genre the film falls in, it's easy to spot a steaming pile when you see it. Chronicles is one of the few movies I've ever seen that didn't have at least ONE interesting scene in the entire film. It was just an amazing load of shit. Even the action scenes were sheer stupidity. They weren't interesting, cool, or compelling - they were just extra strength dumb. With this and XXX, I've been burned twice by Diesel and his shit-flicks - never again!
June 13, 2004, 5:58 p.m. CST
by Mad Hamish
I enjoyed the hell out of this movie, warts and all. I also saw it with a rowdier crowd this time, one that responded favorably to the film. When I saw it opening night it was in a theater full of disapproving sci-fi film geeks (I'm not dissing them, because I was one of them) and this new crowd was more the "average film goer". This is definitely a movie that's better the second time around, once you get rid of that monkey on your back called "unrealistically high expectations" (I know I'll get responses for saying that, I don't care). I, too, wanted this movie to rule my ass, LOTR-style, but it turns out it'll merely have to rule my ass Terminator 3-style. I still want sequels, though. And that director's cut...
June 13, 2004, 7:06 p.m. CST
Harry, and many others, are way off on this film. It rocks! It is great! It sets up a universe I would love to see again! I could go on with the superlatives but I won't. See the movie, sure the first thirty minutes or so packs in a lot of information all at once, and some could get confused, but the rest of the film is a simple action fest. Vin Diesel is cool as hell, the girl who plays Kira is beautiful, and every action sequence plays to perfection. This is a movie people need to see twice maybe even three times. If someone didn't like it at the first viewing it is probably because they missed vital information in the first half and need to go back and pick up what they missed. Awesome movie, the best thing out right now.
June 13, 2004, 7:27 p.m. CST
This was an awesome movie!! Vin Diesel rocks! Twohy has raised the bar! A very beautiful, well thought out, emotionally resonate piece of fantasy. Finally, a movie that has no problem being sexy, exciting, beautiful, open-minded, and, with all that's happening with our own government, very topical, all at the same time. I loved the way they fleshed this story out. All the planets, cities, societies, races, universes, machinery- so beautifully conceived. Amazing. PLEASE, PEOPLE! SUPPORT THIS MOVIE!! If you do, it will only mean better sci-fi in the future. All the sci-fi that comes out today is so bogged down on spaceships. All the action always takes place inside some ship way up in some distant space. This movie is vast, and balanced. A great film! Great film! Harry, you missed the boat COMPLETELY!!!
June 13, 2004, 9:37 p.m. CST
Were you seriously suggesting that this shitfest had more to it? This is one of the ABSOLUTE worst movies of the past ten years and you're admonishing people and telling them that there's more to this film? Or are you a fan of shit flicks?
June 13, 2004, 9:40 p.m. CST
Seriously, this HAS to be a sign of the apocalypse! People actually like this shitty film? Holy shit! This means these people can vote! This world is doomed!
June 13, 2004, 11:26 p.m. CST
The next film will be set on a planet, run by militant lunch ladies, called Cafeteria. Ha ha! Actually, I enjoyed the movie very much.
June 14, 2004, 12:27 a.m. CST
Watching the news conferences after game 4... Has any coach EVER... IN THE HISTORY OF THE LEAGUE(NBA)... ever whined more about officiating? It ONLY happens when his team loses. It's kind of sad.
June 14, 2004, 12:31 a.m. CST
I'm completely floored that there are morons who liked this movie. My guess is that they also liked the following: The Mummy 1 & 2, Blade 2, SW Episodes 1 & 2. Tell me if I'm wrong. People who like this movie most likely don't watch many good movies, movies that are well made, have good character development, with solid stories. Nevertheless, unless they're retarded or wasted, how could anyone watch this shitfest and be entertained?
June 14, 2004, 12:50 a.m. CST
Why don't you leave people the fuck alone you nit picking piece of shit. What is the last movie YOU saw that you feel was a good movie you pretentious mother fucker? I bet your the type of asshole who as soon as the credits roll you try to say something clever to try to fuck up everyone ELSE's movie experience. whatever your a piece of shit, always have always will be. As for everyone else , those nit picking the stupidest shit like surviving 700 degrees in a planet, do you even realize how fucken ridiculous you guys are? Nevermind the fact that they are surviving 700 degree sunlight, but if your that anal, why don't you continue asking how they are able to breathe in another planet? Or fly a ship accross space? Or fucken blow up a planet with a tiny blue ball? It's called sci fi you pathetic pieces of shit. AND ONE MORE FUCKEN THING. I Cannot understand how people like HARRY and EBERT BOTH liked van hellsing, and then NOT REALLY LIKE riddick. You gonna tell me riddick was a bigger piece of shit than van hellsing. Im saying if you liked van hellsing then im assuming that you can forgive a movie that doesnt have a plot, or characters and just enjoy it for what it is, a fun ride. Thats what gets me the most.
June 14, 2004, 1:08 a.m. CST
Calm down, buddy. I hated this movie, and believe me, I'm all for suspension of disbelief... 700-degree planets I can deal with; planets destroyed by blue balls I can deal with. Riddick, I can't deal with. We all know what SciFi is. Riddick is just xXx in space - an excuse for the Fast and Furious crowd to see a new genre. WoodyStiffer is absolutely right - I love SciFi, and I love action, but this was NOT entertaining! How could you like the action if you couldn't even see what the hell was going on during the fights? Who says a SciFi/Action movie can't be smart? Who says we have to settle for mediocre acting? Go ahead and support this movie if you want...then wait and see what we get from the studios next time.
June 14, 2004, 1:16 a.m. CST
Can you explain how someone can love Van Hellsing but NoT like this film?
June 14, 2004, 1:17 a.m. CST
This was such a disappointing movie. I'm embarassed to admit I payed to see it. So many one-dimensional characters **shudder**.
June 14, 2004, 1:23 a.m. CST
Drop the Van Helsing thing Rcamacho... I hated both. Oh and Vin - I agree... totally embarassing to have the ticket stub. It does seem like there's a political campaign going on here.
June 14, 2004, 2:43 a.m. CST
by heywood jablomie
Harry Knowles has unearthed his own backwoods loblolly hayseed bigotry. The worst elements of Chronicles of Riddick are....Keith David and Thandie Newton? There's nothing wrong with Thandie Newton's other performances, thank you very much. This made me realize...I don't think I've ever heard a kind word from Harold Knowles about any black man, ever. The redheaded fattie is just another cracker Klansman in Tarantino-hipster disguise.
June 14, 2004, 3:10 a.m. CST
Solid sci-fi flick. Great action, awesome villians, and a challenging conclusion. Quit bitchin.
June 14, 2004, 11:50 a.m. CST
Ok, Cloudrider, I just finished watching reloaded. You were right, there are no subtexts (at least related to real life) that we can be sure were intentional. Although there are quite a few 'metaphors' for computer related things. I still stand by my philosophy thing even though it feels a bit forced. On a side note, I hate that the architect basically destroys the idea that the original version of the matrix didn't work because we couldn't accept a perfect world without suffering etc... I liked that coment on humans better than the 'we need the feeling that we had/have a choice' one. By the way, much fun was made of the architect's speech because of the way he talks. That demonstrates a terrible lack of openmindedness (don't know if that's a word). Just because he used words the average north american doesn't use we accuse the speech of being ridiculous. Sure, it could have been said a lot more simply, but should it have been dumbed down? Hell no. It's funny how people claim the movie is stupid yet would have like the architect to speak in a more dummed down fashion. Was the speech pompous (not sure how to write that)? It depends on your point of view. Most people would consider it so I guess, but others might consider it simply the use of the right words. I admit if anyone spoke to me like that I'd probably find them to be thinking their horse is pretty high. But there are people like that. And the architect does think of himself a far superior to neo. Plus, remember, he's a machine/program, so why should he speak like an average joe. Ok, back to the movie in general. Remember that inteligent does not necessarily mean thought provoking or providing insight on the human condition (which I believe reloaded definitely isn't and doesn't). So, is it an inteligent movie? Well....it's above average (definitely so for the action genre). Is it good? Well, I'm sort of conflicted about that. I think it tries too much to be on the same level as its predecessor, while not having the same balance of substance and action. I'm annoyed by the overuse of pointless extreme slowmotions and the length of some pointless, uninteresting (matter of opinion I guess...and I don't think that of all of them mind you) action scenes. Oh, and I wonder what went on in the wachowsky's minds when they made morpheus do so well in the fight against the UPGRADED agent....it kind of undermines the inteligent parts of the movie a bit. That being said, when all is acounted for I believe reloaded is far from perfect, yet when compared to most movies out there it's still more inteligent, though it lacks the insight of the first one (don't confuse insight and inteligence, they are not the same). If what I heard is true the whachowsky brothers had been working on the first matrix script for eight years while they only had under three years to work on the scripts for its two sequels...they should have waited 10-20 years before doing the sequel (while actively working on the scripts though).
June 14, 2004, 12:17 p.m. CST
Ok, now on to Riddick. I loved it. There were things that annoyed me like hell, and I felt they brought down the quality of the movie. But a lot of those I think might have been forced on the movie by the studio executives (so I realy hope there'll be a director's version of the movie on dvd). Why do I think they were forced on by the executives? Because they assume the audience is stupid in a way far beyond anything in any of the Twohy movies I've seen. If you saw the movie you probably know i'm mostly talking about the voice overs. Like the one Riddick does, which is supposed to be a interior monologue, while in the mercenaries' ship. I could feel the executives going...uh, he's supposed to be a bad ass that kick's all sorts of ass and doesn't give up on his freedom yet he lets himself get captured (and by the same guy whose ass he already kicked), and we don't think the audience will understand he did it on purpose because he has a reason, even after a conversation revealed Riddick assumed the merc's would take him where he wants to go!!!!... that said, if any one thinks this movie's story is either none existent, convoluted, difficult to follow, or anything like that, you need your brain checked or something. How does it stack up against the matrix sequels. I like it better than reloaded at least, that's for sure (though if the things that annoyed me remain, that might change upon subsequent viewings), but for different reasons and I don't think I can actually compare them.
June 14, 2004, 8:10 p.m. CST
June 14, 2004, 9:01 p.m. CST
The Chronicles of Riddick was obviously not created for the general public. Beware of foot- in-mouth disease; David Twohy has set all of you up.
June 14, 2004, 9:27 p.m. CST
by Bourne GreyElf
but you give glowing reviews of episode 1 and 2? Whatever, I liked this movie alot. Great new scifi series with a great main characters. fuck han(job)solo and puke skywalker, riddick will be the new sci fi trilogy to watch for. fuck all you haters.
June 14, 2004, 9:39 p.m. CST
June 14, 2004, 9:41 p.m. CST
by Man w No Name
Woody, go back to seeing foreign films about gay cowboys eating pudding, or male prostitutes trying to figure out their confused sexuality, and stop bitching about this movie. I hated both Mummy movies, Blade 2 has gotten worse and worse the more times I've seen it, and don't get me started on the SW sequels. This movie is actually a pretty good piece of scifi, and you saying there is no plot etc just makes you look like an idiot that can't comprehend what's going on in the movie. And then the ending....if that doesn't leave me wanting to see more of Riddick, I don't know what would. I soooo want to see what he does with his new found situation. What's not to like about this movie?? You have bounty hunters, a villian so paranoid of an old prophecy that he actually helps the prophecy become fulfilled by trying to destroy everyone involved, we have 700 degree planets, a prison break, planets being destroyed, several bad ass knife fights, a race of people who get their 'faith' across all the people they conquered by force and operation, a lone survivor of a race of people with a score to settle, planetary takeovers, and an awesome ending. Seriously, this movie packs it in, and without a doubt is probably going to be the best summer movie not named Collateral or Bourne Supremacy. Woody, you're just some lame brained film elitist who is always raining on other's parades, and have probably never had a single good word to say about a film in the history of film.
June 14, 2004, 9:49 p.m. CST
by Magilla Gorilla
...Riddick rocks da muthafuckin' house! I still can't believe how sweet this movie is. I'm glad to see there are still a few real people left on this site who aren't so full of shit that they can't appreciate a good, bare-knuckle, sweat-drenched, slice and dice, ass-stomping action movie. Most of the haters are just the same old boring bastards who never have anything interesting to say but come out anyway to bash whatever new film just came out. It's too bad the limp-dicked critics seem to have killed this movie before it ever had a chance. It's going to be one of those movies people wait to rent on DVD and after they watch it they go "Holy Fuck! I thought it was gonna suck but it was awesome!" The only thing it was missing was a good catch phrase. I keep replaying the cool parts in my head, but I can't remember any good Arnold-like one liners. Oh well, maybe next time around. Hasta la vista, baby!
June 14, 2004, 10:34 p.m. CST
by The Founder
Harry is smoking, Thandie was good in this film. She isn't the greatest actress, but she can hold her own. All of the women did a decent job here, with Judi Dench being the best. It had some good elements, but it never once lifted my sprits, well until the end, when he sat on the throne, but other then that the story was what I'd call good average. I can't put my finger on it, but something was indeed missing from this film. I'd love a sequel to be honest, but since I haven't checked the box office for this weekend, and I know I don't have to, but i can pretty much guess it wasn't number one. At anyrate it was entertaining, and some elements were good, but in the end it did nothing for me until the end. Not a bad film, but it could have been better.
June 14, 2004, 10:44 p.m. CST
I got a real problem with movie reviewers not being consistent with their opinions. Harry and Ebert both loved Van hellsing, forgiving it for not having a plot, much character development, and poor CGI. But it was a "fun " ride . Yet they get on RIDDICK for not having any of the above? Thats hipocrisy man, and that is why I keep mentioning Van hellsing, because Riddick was a fun Ride, . just makes me wonder. wonder alot. and woody stiffer, I wanna know whats the last good fucken movie you've seen cuz anytime you come online you only BITCH BITCH BITCH
June 14, 2004, 11 p.m. CST
Saw it on Friday and saw it again Sunday night. Will definitely go a third time and maybe a forth. Riddick is one of my favorite characters. He's the anti of anti-heros: rude, foul-mouthed and selfish. Still, he's very likable. My only complaint was the Chronicles should have been "R" and not PG-13. Ah well, I just add the fuck-yous and the motherfuckers myself as I watch the movie.
June 14, 2004, 11:54 p.m. CST
In other words, the first film featured a great enigmatic character, who played a crucial role in the service of a good story. The sequel is just a hollow attempt at franchise-building. This movie had no point but to sell us on Riddick as some kind of iconic movie character. Every supporting character seemed to exist mainly to convey in some form or other how completely awestruck they are by Riddick. It just depressed me how they oversold this great character until they bled him white. Buy the video games, kids. Shuffle back to the multiplex, zombie-like, for many more boring, predictable sequels.
June 15, 2004, 12:21 a.m. CST
harry, mediocre means moderate to inferior in quality-not really really shit like a lot of people seem to think
June 15, 2004, 12:49 a.m. CST
...but it just wasn't enough. This is the most accurate review I've read. Spot on.http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/199aeebl.asp
June 15, 2004, 2:32 a.m. CST
Selfish yes, but he never does anything that morally objectionable. Some people say they're changing the character, I don't think so. He's pretty much the same Riddick from the end of Pitch Black, and keep in mind, he didn't fight Marshall because he hates Necromongors, he did it for Kyra, helping out Helion was just collateral damage. I love the scene when all the Helionites are about to get converted, and there's Riddick in the middle of them. You think 'great, Riddick is going to save those poor bastards!' Nope. "I'll just take a piece of him" What a great fucking guy.
June 15, 2004, 9:18 a.m. CST
A friend and I saw The Chronicles of Riddick sunday night and both of us had the exect same feeling about it, that it was just "ok". I havent agreed with any of harrys reviews since the Punisher, but here, he's spot on. This film is way too ambitious for its own good, and sacrifices far too much in terms of character development in attempts to "expand" on its universe. Problem is, the more we see outside of the stuff on Crematoria, the less we care. Everything that keeps Riddick in his element is fucking brilliant (the Crematoria stuff). I think the main problem is, the Necros just arent that threatening. Sure theyve been wiping out planet after planet, but watch the way Kyra and Riddick rip through them, theyre pussies. Take Karl Urban's Vaako for example, he's supposed to be next in line to be Big King Shit after lord Marshal. But only once do we see him do anything besides get played by his wife, and whine about how "its not fair" that hes not the head asshole. They could have at least been interesting to look at, but those goddamned spades on their chests were distracting as shit. Not once (aside from the riddick/marshal fight) did they ever seem to pose a REAL threat to the people of New Mecha, or anyone else for that matter. Still, I did enjoy myself when I wasnt bored by the necros, and do look forward to the next installment. I just find it odd that the "Escape from Butcher Bay" xbox game and "Dark Fury" animated feature turned out to be more entertaining than the big assed summer movie theyre supposed to be in promotion of.
June 15, 2004, 11:18 a.m. CST
Dammit, I'll tell you exactly where Twohy should have gone with this film... A) The Necros should have been kept offscreen for this installment, more a rumor and a threat to be delivered on in the sequels, rather than having them shoot their entire cgi load in the first 20 minutes of this film. There could have been entire SEQUENCES set on worlds the necros had already destroyed, which would have built them up in our imagination. There could have even been the discovery of the Pitch Black aliens as having been a breeding project of the necros, which would have made me clamor to see more of them. As it was, we saw everything right away, and my immediate reaction was, "Oh, that's them? Christ, they're boring." B) The interesting storyline in this was Riddick being hunted by Toombs, and the prison escape. C) The other potentially compelling story was Jack's (what the fuck was the point of renaming her Kyra?) doomed quest to find him, and her fate as a sex slave of the mercs (I think that's what happened, I was too bored to pay very close attention), which was unwisely consigned to backstory. Kyra looked great and fought great but her character didn't scan emotionally. This girl would have been seriously damaged goods, and I felt like any kid you met on the street who's been in and out of juvie a few times would register more emotional damage than she did. D) Riddick was compelling in the first film largely because you never knew which way he was going to go (nor did he until the last ten minutes). If they wanted to advance the character while keeping that tension, they should have done a Claremont/Byrne Wolverine move with him: He's losing control of the animal side (which could have been conveyed brilliantly by his feral appearance on the ice planet) even while the human side is struggling to refine itself. Damn that would have been cool. Dig it: Wolverine was compelling in the 80's because he was struggling to bend himself to the discipline of a samurai, while his past was constantly coming back to bring the brawler to the surface again. He was on a razor edge, constantly at risk of psychotic breakdown. The last survivor/prophecied savior b.s. was just a pile-on of boring cliches in an attempt to mythologize the character, and should have been left alone. Well, that's my margin notes on the script, thoughts anyone?
June 15, 2004, 2:52 p.m. CST
I'm amazed no one has made this observation; the production design looked to me like it was stolen directly from Juan Gimenez's Metabarons graphic novels. The Necromongers look was straightup Gimenez - it was the main reason I went to see the movie. I was stunned to find that JG had nothing to do with the movie.
June 15, 2004, 3:37 p.m. CST
Remember those awesome sci-fi/fantasy crossbred movies in the 80s? You know, the stuff that was made to cash in on the success of Star Wars and D&D? I sure do. I grew up with that shit. My saturdays as a kid were spent watching Star Wars, sure, but I also got real into stuff like Krull, Flash Gordon, The Dark Crystal, Conan, etc. Riddick reminds me a whole lot of Krull and Flash Gordon, and in a very good way. But the real reason Riddick surpasses these movies is in the titular character. Riddick is a character that belongs in a different kind of movie. He's a self-reliant badass that doesn't give a shit about interplanetary warfare or "doing the right thing." He couldn't really give a fuck if he's Furyan or not. He's a very simple protagonist...he takes care of himself, and few others. He's akin to an alpha male in a pack of wolves. That's why the fact that he "bonds" with the hellhound is so cool--he really does have more in common with the hounds than with the humans. He's a very primal guy. When he kills you, it's up close and personal. When he kills Lord Marshall, it's not to fulfill prophecy. It's to get payback for taking what little he cherished. Protect you and yours, stand up against immediate threats, cover your ass, kill your enemies quickly and directly--this is what this "hero" is all about. So you take a protagonist like that, and place him in an adventure that is straight out of a 50s space opera. Pretty fucking ambitious, if you ask me. And by the way, for all those complaining about how the fight scenes were cut up and choppy--please shut up. The fight scenes ruled. They revealed the raw agression and desperation of those involved. They are also easier to follow upon the second viewing. The fight scene at the ship hangar is fucking brilliant in the way it was edited...these are characters that just ran 29 km, scaled a mountain, and now have to fight crazy odds against skilled warriors in like 3 minutes before a nuclear-strength sunrise incinerates them! Fucking awesome! To top it off, it's a 3-way fight with the necromongers in the middle! This was their last stand, and the fight is extremely emotionally charged. I really felt that in the way it was portrayed, although I too would have liked R-rated shit going on. Still, I think it will be a long time before I see an action premise in a movie that outdoes this one. Even though a bit corny at times, this movie is a fucking genre classic and time will vindicate it as such.
June 15, 2004, 3:50 p.m. CST
If you saw the trailer then what you see is what you get. And I didnt expect anything else. Its amazing eye candy and a lot of action. Imagine seeing shots of Riddick attacking his foes from every possible angle even from the air. Riddick is now a superhuman charicature of his self from PB. The cgi look and tone is amazing (I like the Buck Rogers meets Gothic theme) but the dialogue is often cliched and the story as well and often predictable. I did not however predict the very end which was surprising but has sequal written all over it. Here's what Roger Ebert said: "The Chronicles of Riddick" is above all an exercise in computer-generated effects, and indeed the project represents the direction action movies are taking, as its human actors (or their digital clones) are inserted into manifestly artificial scenes that look like frames from the darkest of superhero comic books. The jolly reds, yellows and blues of the classic Superman and Spider-Man have been replaced in these grim days with black and gunmetal gray. " If you compare Pitch Black against this movie, PB was a more "normal" SciFi movie with story, suspense, and interplay of the characters. This one is eye candy with action and some other stuff thrown in but its not as good a movie.
June 15, 2004, 7:27 p.m. CST
by Charles Grady
I'll give Harry the benefit of the doubt and assume he was having a brain fart when he said Nick Chinlund looked kinda familiar, and he remembered him only from BELOW. Chinlund is a supreme bad-ass who's had prominent roles in TRAINING DAY, TEARS OF THE SUN, ERASER, and most prominently, CON AIR, in which he played Billy Bedlam in the oft-mocked "PUT THE BUNNY...DOWN" scene. He also did a nice comedic change of pace in a movie called AMY'S ORGASM.
June 15, 2004, 7:43 p.m. CST
I'm not an expert, but if there is nothing to hold the heat in the atmosphere, the shade can be a heck of a lot cooler than where there's sunlight. The thing is that in those cases the air doesn't realy get hot (at least not so soon after the sun rise) it's the sun's rays that burn the thermometer to 700 degrees, not the air temperature (which is why it gets high so fast). And since very little of those rays reach the places where there is shade, you might be alright for a short time. If anyone knows the specifics of this, please drop a line. Personnally I'm more worried about the time they manage to survive in the light...but I guess that might not have been direct sunlight. By the way, did anyone notice whether 700 was in farenheit or celcius... I think the latter would make more sense for a futuristic thermometer, but I hope it's the former, or else the planet is a lot warmer than I thought. And to those who find anything in the movie to be homoerotic...what the hell are you talking about? For christ's sakes, there's never any male to male contact except in the fights. There's nothing remotely like herotism (homo or etero) in there. If you find a movie to be homoerotic because it shows the big muscles of some guy, you should question yourself.
June 15, 2004, 11:19 p.m. CST
My god, go watch some porn!
June 16, 2004, 12:10 a.m. CST
Alright. I've had enough of you abusing the English language. I've seen you do it over SO MANY POSTS. I've just had enough! If you're trying to say "YOU ARE", then you either write "YOU ARE" or "YOU'RE". "YOUR" denotes possession. It does NOT mean "YOU ARE" you fucking dumbass. This is the last time I'm going to remind you. For the good of all humanity, start reading books or take a couple of reading comprehension courses. Maybe some Hooked on Phonics? Now... you're angry that you watched Riddick and you popped a HUGE boner. Well... you're correct. Your inner self says "I'm a fucking douche... I like a shitty film". Who am I to disagree? You're (SEE! - that's a contraction, and it means "YOU ARE" you fucking illiterate shit!) a fucking moron and you always back me up by just being yourself. Chronicles was a huge pile of shit. You liking it was completely expected. Chronicles is a steaming pile of shit... AS was VAN HELSING. The only difference was - Van Helsing offered up a Werewolf vs. a Vampire fight. The fight wasn't perfect, but it was enough to make Van Helsing a slightly better film than the shitfest that was RIDDICK. RCAMACHO, I don't even need to post for you to defeat yourself. Go take a reading comprehension course. You embarrass yourself with each single post you make. DUMBASS!!!!
June 16, 2004, 12:22 a.m. CST
I'm sure that there have been similar morons who don't seem to grasp the basics of the English language that they speak each day. (JUST A NOTE: I'm not slamming those who speak English as their second language. You're all cool by me. Most likely, I don't speak or write a second language as well as you.) But has there ever been a moron in this forum who has posted so many moronic posts and yet has abused the English language 56.7 times/post? I don't think so. RCamacho is in a dumbass class all to his own. You win the ALL TIME FUCKTARD CHAMPIONSHIP!! You're a winner! You can tell your family! Even if you've won for something that would embarass most normal people!!!!
June 16, 2004, 12:34 a.m. CST
Goddamn!!! I've been waiting a whole year to watch LA get STOMPED AGAIN! Damn, this is sweet! Oh... and RCAMACHO, you're still an English-challenged MORON BITCH!!!!
June 16, 2004, 12:42 a.m. CST
Before you post, I'd like you to tell everyone why you still cannot grasp simple contractions? Your posts read like a fucking elementary school kid. I've reminded you enough. Wouldn't self respect have been enough for you to have read up and to post your thoughts with English grammar that didn't read like a fucking 5 year old?
June 16, 2004, 4:36 a.m. CST
by Man w No Name
Riddick wasn't homoerotic. If you wanna see the biggest homoerotic movie to grace the screen, look no further than ROTK. Holy shit that was a homoerotic trip.
June 16, 2004, 8:36 a.m. CST
your only offense is trying to attack people on an educational level, but your still an asshole who doesn't know shit about movies.
June 16, 2004, 11:17 p.m. CST
by Mr Brownstone
RoomOnFire sums it up best above.
June 16, 2004, 11:23 p.m. CST
by Sith Lord Sauron
It had a number of issues which have already been mentioned in Harry's review and in the talkback, so I won't go too deeply into them. Basiclly it needed 1) A more epic script - they should have hired someone like Timothy Zahn - and 2) not *better* but *different* production design. The gunmetal grey - grimy surfaces look. . .it kept reminding me of Aliens, the Lost In Spce movie (blech), Dune, Starship Troopers and a hundred other flicks. Twohy needed to go for a different look, one that truly made the Riddick universe distinct from all the others. Beyond these things, it was fine for what it was - it didn't stink up the theater like, say, the awful Even Horizon. Now THERE was a film that truly sucked. And thus I go back into retirement.
June 17, 2004, 12:22 a.m. CST
It seemed like a completely different universe than PITCH BLACK. The former was much more down-to-earth...more realistic, like this could really happen if it were the future and a bunch of people were stranded on a planet. RIDDICK was more of a gigantic space opera...like LOTRs in space. I enjoyed it, but I didn't like the big switch Twohy pulled.
June 17, 2004, 12:37 a.m. CST
I thought the part on Crematoria was the best part of the movie. It was the director smartly throwing in something with the feel of the original to please the die hard Pitch Black fans. Instead of running from the dark they were running from the light. I honestly wish that had been what the whole movie was about--the slam--because the other story seemed too Borg-like and already-done to me. Plus the Nacamongers or whatever weren't scary at all so it was hard to respect them in those silly outfits. Except Thadie Newton. Others have said she SUCKED but I came away thinking she was the BEST actor in the movie. I wish her role had been bigger. I wish she had been the one in charge of the Necros because I COULD have been afraid of her. I'm also wondering what other people thought about the sexual tension between Jack/Kyra and Riddick. I've heard reviewers commenting on the movie was smart for playing them like brother/sister. Did they see the same movie? Didn't he lift her up by the crotch? Didn't they recast the role so someone older could be his almost love interest? Maybe it was just me.
June 17, 2004, 12:35 p.m. CST
by No, I'm RIGHT
Loved this film, I'd give it a 9/10. I thought it was very clever, original, and inventive. I haven't seen any reviewer anywhere talk about what a great setup the prison break was. In Pitch Black, darkness was the enemy. Here, light is the enemy. The 1/10 I didn't like. The actress who played the Dame, the bad guy can pull out "souls", and about 2 lines of the dialogue. Small complaints. What really gets me is that reviewers (See Rotten Tomatoes) say the plot makes no sense. This is absurd, the plot is tight if you don't have ADD.
June 17, 2004, 4:42 p.m. CST
by Sod Off Baldric
I thought it was a good bit of space opera, a wonderful antidote to the current Star Wars films. In fact, I really think Lucas needs to sit down and watch this. It might remind him that space opera is not just for kids. Anyway, that's just my two cents. Take it or leave it. Of course, I liked AI, so what do I know? Later.
June 17, 2004, 4:56 p.m. CST
I can't believe my eyes! I absolutely can not, for one single moment, believe that the Godlike creature who is Harry Knowles is saying good things about this over-wrought, surface level, self-love-fest pile of egotistical crap. Not since ROLLERBALL have I seen a movie this utterly ridiculous. Even the lowly piece of crap that is WATERWORLD had the ability to stick with a story line. This piece of trash meanders around the universe searching for, finding, abandoning, then suddenly rediscovering its lame story line just in time for the climax. From the opening moment to the last breath of the Lord Marshall this movie is as close to unwatchable as I've seen in years. Speaking of Lord Marshall, how about those lame, completely uncreative names -- Crematoria, Necromonger, the list goes on and on. Lame! The dialogue is so cliche that you actually feel bad for the actors who have to speak this shit. Twohy directs these actors into a corner by painting them all with the same brush -- brooding, tough and too cool for school. The Necromongers themselves are a group that exists solely on the idea that they all think and act as one, under the absolute command of the Lord Marshall. Yet every single Necromonger we meet has an individual agenda! How could these people survive if their "programming" was that easy to break? You're right, they couldn't and they wouldn't have. It's this kind of absolute inattention to logic that takes this film from mediocre rehash to utter crap. David Twohy should be banished back to the low-budget realm of sci-fi where at least he's forced to create something out of nothing, which he seems much better suited for because this was an absolute waste of $110mil!!
June 17, 2004, 7:32 p.m. CST
June 18, 2004, 12:07 a.m. CST
by Doom II
Whatever. I give up. I thought Riddick was excellent. I will be seeing it again. Some scenes gave me that "fuck yeah!" feeling (like the anti aircraft fire into the night sky) that I haven't felt in a looong time. This movie really surprised me. I almost didn't see it, but after watching the outstanding animated (Riddick) Peter Chung dvd, I decide to give it a shot. My buddy also loved it. I thought the f/x were close to flawless. Some of the massive army shots looked better than Return Of The King. Name calling people who like this film is pathetic.
June 19, 2004, 1:09 a.m. CST
Dude, ya just crack me up. After all my posts, you STILL don't nail the "YOU ARE (YOU'RE)" contraction. Come on dude, please TRY AND LEARN THIS PART OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. I BEG YOU!!!
June 19, 2004, 1:10 a.m. CST
Can anyone truly follow these fucked up talkbacks? What the fuck is up with the order here? I JUST DON'T GET IT?! How can a database be out of order when you're listing posts by the order in which they were added? Can someone shed some light here?
June 20, 2004, 1:50 a.m. CST
Yeah, I mean it!
June 22, 2004, 3:46 p.m. CST
by cletis van dam
ill put these in bullets -vin can't act. I started laughing real hard at the end when he tried to cry. -the black actress couldnt act. when she started to scream at the end i burst into laughter. -the special effects sucked. Thats sad because that was the best part of the movie. -A big mistake is crematoria. They said in the dark areas it was -300 degrees yet the whole time they are out running daylight in the dark area in tank tops.If the sun light is 700 degrees vin couldn't just put water on him self and swing down the montain to the resque. He would have burned alive and his rope would have burned up. Also they are in the hanger with the full force of the sun on them. if its 700 dgress they would have been roasting in there. finally the guy who committed suicide by walking out of the hanger would be burned in less that 1 sec.he would not be able to walk for about 10 sec.s -that is just one part of the movie im commenting on. Think about how many mistakes there actually are in the movie. -the technologies are conflicting. -the elemental was not needed and dumb. -all the lines were shitty -there really was no ending -they always do those stupid shots from behind vin where he turns his head around -the bad guy was retarded - why was there a random knife in that guys back which he used to kill the guy -the prison wasnt really a prison. prisoners walked where they may. the prison only had a crew of 6 or so to control all the prisoners. This is why the movie sucked and why Harry is dumbass whose opinions are shit.
June 23, 2004, 1:29 a.m. CST
Just got back from watching it, and for every really cool thing/scene/moment there's something shitty. And all in all i did kind of like it. Pitch Black is certainly more even though. The one thing i disagree about is the production design, I really liked it. Not the Necromonger's armor so much, but the sets were impressive.
July 6, 2004, 3:46 p.m. CST
I loved it but i must confess that i was too involved drooling over "RIDDICK" that i was unable to catch alot of the other stuff!!!
July 23, 2004, 7:59 p.m. CST
If you want to experience Riddick in his glory, play the videogame. Riddick is a grimy, down and dirty anti-hero, and the game fits that to a T. Fuck, he doesn't want to save the world, he just looks out for #1. Fuck the Necromongers, fuck the underverse; sneak up behind some fools in the dark and slit their throats; THAT'S RIDDICK!