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Say Goodbye To The Gipper... Ronald Reagan Dead At 93

Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...







Yes, he was a politician, but he was an actor first, and even when he was in public office, the shadow that President Ronald Reagan cast stretched over every facet of entertainment for nearly a decade.

His last work in film was in 1964's THE KILLERS, which is a pretty darn good picture. He was an out-and-out bad guy in it, too, slapping women around and stealing money and snarling at everyone in his immediate vicinity. You should check it out just to see him match tough guy chops with Lee Marvin, John Cassavetes, and Clu Gulager.







Or if you're in the mood to see him with his wife, Nancy Reagan, you could check out HELLCATS OF THE NAVY, a pretty standard-issue submarine picture from 1957. He made a lot of military films, and this one is pretty much representative of all of them. He also made a lot of Westerns, like the decent LAW AND ORDER or the less-decent CATTLE QUEEN OF MONTANA. He was one of those actors who pretty quickly got typecast and settled into playing the square hero, middle America personified, in films like STORM WARNING and STALLION ROAD.







That's not to say he wasn't interesting at times. Any fans of Andy Niccols's SIM0NE should check out THE GIRL FROM JONES BEACH, a comedy about a painter who creates the perfect girl from bits and pieces of other girls he's done portraits of, only to have the public fall in love with her. And he did some strong dramatic work in films like THE HASTY HEART and KING'S ROW.







When I was growing up in the '80s, he was largely defined by two roles he played during his Hollywood years. People loved to throw BEDTIME FOR BONZO at him, like it was the end of Western civilization or something, and it makes me wonder... if Tom Hanks ever runs for public office, how many TURNER & HOOCH jokes is he going to have to listen to? And then there's his work as The Gipper. George Gip. The fallen teammate who becomes the inspiration in KNUTE ROCKNE: ALL-AMERICAN.







Reagan was a controversial figure during his Presidency, and he will no doubt continue to be one now. He loved Rambo as an American icon, seeming to ignore the political implications of unleashing a psychotic vet on another country for revenge, and he co-opted the name STAR WARS for a space-defense platform, perhaps inspired by MURDER IN THE AIR, a truly wacky suspense film of his from the '40s, part of his Brass Bancroft series. He never seemed to totally leave Hollywood behind, and his handling of the Cold War was like something out of one of his Westerns, a man in a white hat refusing to back down in the face of international bullying. As Harry said when we spoke about Reagan this afternoon, "He just plain outspent communism. Brilliant." At least, that's how it seemed to me when watching him on TV, and the media loved him. He always seemed like he was starring in PRESIDENT KICK-ASS, THE MOVIE, and I know many people who will be devastated at the idea that he's actually gone.







Personally, I thought the Reagan family handled his retreat from the public eye with uncommon grace, choosing to let our last impressions of him be as the hale and hearty man who left office instead of as an elderly Alzheimer's patient, crippled by a horrible disease. No matter what you thought of him politically, here's hoping you can spare his family some kind thoughts today as they deal with their grief, and maybe you'll pick up one of his pictures and take a look at where he began his long and illustrious public life. Try the wonderful SANTA FE TRAIL or the snappy murder mystery NINE LIVES ARE NOT ENOUGH. At any rate... an American President has passed today, and there's no denying the impact he had on a major portion of our recent history.







I'm sure tomorrow, it will be "morning again in America," but tonight, the Gipper is gone.

"Moriarty" out.





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  • June 5, 2004, 6:42 p.m. CST

    A great President

    by SithScorp

    A great man, a great loss for our country. We should learn from his work.

  • June 5, 2004, 6:43 p.m. CST

    First.

    by ethandarkseid

    Start the hate! I know some of you are going to write some nasty things about reagan and that' fine. But don't deny that he was and is one of the greatest presidents (and classiest, and most humane) of any generation. Freedom, ain't it grand??

  • June 5, 2004, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Excellent Moriarty!

    by ljamo is 337

    A very well written piece about a very important individual. Thank you.

  • June 5, 2004, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Now maybe we can see Bill O'Reilly cry like a baby on air

    by ChristianZane

  • June 5, 2004, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Farewell, Mr. President

    by Cptn Sheridan

    I, too, expect the talk back to soon be flooded with immature celebratory remarks at the passing of a great American. I am saddened by the news, but thankful that he was able to accomplish all he did for the betterment of our country and way of life. Rest easy, Mr. President. You have earned it.

  • June 5, 2004, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Not that great of a president

    by Tomiyama

    Big hat. little cattle. (Heard he couldn't tell between night or day for about the last 10 years.) Mediocre actor as well. He did a lot of flag waving but not much substance. Poppa Bush was just a Reagan third term. At least neither of them were as bad as that Boy Emporer we have now.

  • June 5, 2004, 6:53 p.m. CST

    RIP Ronnie. And while I'm writing this, here in England...

    by Aston Lad

    ...we're 10 minutes or so away from June 6th 1944, the 60th anniversary of D Day. A great thank you to all the surviving veterans of that terrible day, and condolences to the American people for today's news.

  • June 5, 2004, 6:58 p.m. CST

    I'll have to eat some mac and cheese...

    by Kraken

    As someone born in 1978 I'm not old enough to remember the political negatives or positives of Ronald Regan. All I remember is the man loved Mac and Cheese and so did I. He also seemed like a grandfatherly old chap... so all I have is fond memories of the man as President. I'll have to crack open a box of Kraft today in his honor.

  • June 5, 2004, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Good point, Moriarty.

    by ChrisPC24

    When you do 50 films, you're going to have some crap on your resume. R.I.P. Gipper

  • June 5, 2004, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Reagan didn't 'co-op' the name "Star Wars"...

    by Fritzworth

    ...that was a derisive label attached to Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) by opponents and the press (but I repeat myself :-).

  • June 5, 2004, 7:03 p.m. CST

    comment

    by Captain Opus

    Very classy, Moriarty! Regardless of ideology, no one can deny we have lost a truly patriotic, inspiring American figure. I guess Harry was to busy packing for Socialist's Summer Camp with Micheal Moore to comment.

  • June 5, 2004, 7:08 p.m. CST

    tomiyama

    by serpico04

    Fuck your an idiot. Where'd you get that info at. Fuck you and I hope you wind up with Alzheimers. My grandfather had it so I know personally what it does to a person. Hopefully you'll read what everybody says about you and you'll rethink how classless it was. What an ass you are either way !!!!!

  • June 5, 2004, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Why are we treating Reagan like a frickin' saint????

    by Bregalad_

    Get some perspective people. Has anyone forgotten how inhuman Reagan was during the first 7 years of the AIDS epidemic?? Quoting reporter Michael Bronski: "Although AIDS was first reported in the medical and popular press in 1981, it was only in October of 1987 that President Reagan publicly spoke about the epidemic. By the end of that year 59,572 AIDS cases had been reported and 27,909 of those women and men had died. Didn't he see that this was an ever-expanding epidemic? How could he not say anything? Do anything? .... His appalling lack of leadership and vision

  • June 5, 2004, 7:11 p.m. CST

    I LIKED THE ONE WITH THE MONKEY!

    by FLETCHWON

    "Bed time for bonzo" was my 3rd favourite man-and-monkey-movie EVER" right after "Anywhich way but loose" and "Dunston checks in".

  • June 5, 2004, 7:11 p.m. CST

    eviil walks the earth..

    by loungeboy

    ..in the form of tomiyama. you are the worst of human scum. Ronald Wilson Reagan would just smile at you and say.."..well, there you go again". He was a greater man than you could ever hope to be.

  • June 5, 2004, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Ronald Reagan ended the cold war, presided over massive economic

    by ThingsThatTimDog

    A great, great man and President.

  • June 5, 2004, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Cool villain

    by dochealthyself

    Only time RR played a villain (on film): The Killers. Made for TV flick that was dubbed so violent that it went to theaters instead. RR was pretty cool - much more interesting than most of his "good guy" roles.

  • June 5, 2004, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Thanks to Moriarty for writing this instead of Harry.

    by rev_skarekroe

    God only knows what it would've been like it he'd written it... sk

  • June 5, 2004, 7:24 p.m. CST

    nostalgia=

    by no-no

    A bittersweet longing for things, persons, or situations of the past. The 80's are back. Reagan, Thatcher, Dynasty... They were great: it was 20 years ago... In 2030, people will have found memories of Bush, Blair and the OC...

  • June 5, 2004, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Re: Why are we praising him like a saint?

    by SithScorp

    Because he was as close to being a saint as any President in recent history. Talk your smack about AIDS all you want. He didn't talk about it? So what. What would he have said about it? What did we know about AIDS in the 80's? Nothing really. The progress that was made in the 90's was a result of his support of the medical research during HIS Presidency. Don't believe the BS quotes that were added to the very fictionalized recent catastrophy of a movie starring Mr. Streisand. Was he perfect? No, but no one is. Did he work to make the world a better place? YES. God Bless Ronald Reagan and God Bless the U.S.A.

  • June 5, 2004, 7:28 p.m. CST

    by Dead Megatron

    I'm not even (north-)Amerincan, and if I were, I'd be Democratic, but there's one thing I can say about Reagan: the man had more style in his legs ("Where's the rest of me????") than most people have in their entire body. Good sleeping to him, and my sentiments to his family. (And, on a side note: he did not defeat the Sovietic Uinon.... The Sovietic Union defeated itself...)

  • June 5, 2004, 7:28 p.m. CST

    not forgetting "Monkey Nuts" with Harvey keitel

    by FLETCHWON

    I think we are missing the point here- no matter what he DID or DIDNT do in his time on earth- we must not forget......he starred in a movie with a monkey...this makes him cooler than 99% of the world (who have never starred in a movie with a monkey)..... We must all bow our heads in honour of this man....(and keep a close eye on Clint coz hes getting on a bit as well)

  • June 5, 2004, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Thanks, "GreatOne" for showing your true colors

    by Bregalad_

    You go visit a pediatric AIDS ward and tell all the suffering 2 year olds about their "degenerate behavior." I can't believe people like you are still mentally entrenched in the dark ages, spewing your myopic idiocy on the rest of us. What's that empty space in your rib-cage, man? Is there a heart still beating in your body, you fucking ghoul?? Begone before somebody drops a house on you.

  • June 5, 2004, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Reagan will be remembered as a good, but flawed , President.

    by Shaner Jedi

    Pluses Made Americans believe in our uniqueness again after Carter's weak-kneed garbage. Rebuilt our military to the point the Soviets realized they could no longer keep up with our technological advances Cut tax rates across the board, for every taxpayer. First comphrehensive nuclear reduction treaty. Opening of repectful and friendly relationship with Soviet's Gorbachev. Helped speed up the demise of the Soviet Union by at least a decade. Pleasing manner and personality Minuses= Allowed outlays(spending)to increase, leading to massive deficits. Iran-Contra... Lebanon Marine massacre...

  • June 5, 2004, 7:31 p.m. CST

    Response to ignorant Reagan/AIDS post

    by manmonkey2000

    I'm sorry; I can

  • June 5, 2004, 7:36 p.m. CST

    These gay "activists".....

    by Shaner Jedi

    ....don't know history. Reagan brought more gay people into the republican party than ever before. Ever heard of the "Big tent"? Log Cabin Republicans? Didn't think so. Fucking idiots.

  • June 5, 2004, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Let's get the facts straight., Bregalad...

    by Falcon-1

    Before I eulogize a great American, I think some things need to be addressed. First, Bregalad, you say that Mr. Reagan did nothing about AIDS. Well, that's not exactly true. In a Congressional Research Service study titled AIDS Funding for Federal Government Programs: FY1981-FY1999, author Judith Johnson found that overall, the federal government spent $5.727 billion on AIDS under Ronald Reagan. Second, you say that Mr. Reagan didn't say anything about AIDS before 1987. Wrong again. In 1985, he said "Including what we have in the budget for '86, it will amount to over a half a billion dollars that we have provided for research on AIDS in addition to what I'm sure other medical groups are doing. And we have $100 million in the budget this year; it'll be 126 million next year. So, this is a top priority with us. Yes, there's no question about the seriousness of this and the need to find an answer." Then, in the 1986 State of the Union Address, Mr. Reagan said "We will continue, as a high priority, the fight against Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS). An unprecedented research effort is underway to deal with this major epidemic public health threat. The number of AIDS cases is expected to increase. While there are hopes for drugs and vaccines against AIDS, none is immediately at hand. Consequently, efforts should focus on prevention, to inform and to lower risks of further transmission of the AIDS virus. To this end, I am asking the Surgeon General to prepare a report to the American people on AIDS." As far as Iran/Contra, I'm still trying to figure out what was so bad about the whole thing. But the fact is, the majority of the deal was done without Mr. Reagan's knowledge. Finally, yes, the National Debt did increase under Mr. Reagan's terms in office. And I thank God for it. Had he not poured all that money into defense spending, I think it's highly likely we'd all be speaking Russian today, Comrade! Of course it's because of that evil Reaganomics the 1980's and 90's turned out to be two of the greatest decades of economic growth in US History. Sure, other presidents took the credit, but it wouldn't have been possible had it not been for what was started in the Reagan Era. Was Mr. Reagan a saint? No, of course not. But as far as leaders go, he will definitely go down in history as one of our greatest. Sadly, though, our memories dim with time and, as the media tries to rewrite history before our very eyes, it's easy for us to start believing the lies of the left. I believe it was Goering who said a lie, told over and over and over will eventually be seen as the truth. Check the facts, Bregalad, then comment.

  • June 5, 2004, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Good fucking riddance

    by Mister Pink

    Reagan was one of the worst presidents in US history. The only POTUS who has ever surpassed Reagan's combination of incompetence and corruption is GWB. Reagan had fuck all to do with the fall of communism, you fucking morons. Reagan's real legacy is an illegal secret war in South America, the dumping of crack into black neighborhoods to finance it, the propping up of Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden and the Taliban, Arms for hostages, a massive national debt, a refusal to acknowledge the AIDS epidemic, an unholy harpy of a wife with the most ludicrous and hypocritical anti-drug campaign in US history, the failure of trickle down economics and hair dye. Fuck Reagan and fuck anyone who says anything good about him.

  • June 5, 2004, 7:39 p.m. CST

    come on people!

    by FLETCHWON

    good for AIDS....bad for AIDS.... HE MADE A MONKEY MOVIE!!!!! and when i get sick...i can only pray there are still movies where men are partnered with monkeys with 'hilarious' results to help me through the hard times.....

  • June 5, 2004, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Hey GreatOne...

    by DocPazuzu

    As much as I hope Tomiyama gets Alzheimer's, I also hope you get anally raped and infected with HIV. Poetic justice for the both of you heartless goons.

  • June 5, 2004, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Mister Pinko

    by Shaner Jedi

    Yeah, he financed the war in So. America and helped the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan. Who were they fighting against? Marxist scum! Yet, you then turn right around and claim Regan had nothing to do with the contianment and thus, breakup of the Soviets scheme. LOL!

  • June 5, 2004, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Supreme irony

    by artsnob

    You're not going to BELIEVE what comes up as his highest-rated movie when you access his filmography at IMDB! http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0001654/filmorate

  • June 5, 2004, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Ronnie Raygun was the #1 supplier

    by lemmdin

    of Saddam Hussein's WMD's. I guess that alone might disqualify him for sainthood.

  • June 5, 2004, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Turner and Hooch was a great goddamn movie.

    by Fantomex

    You honestly think THAT is what people will make fun of Tom Hanks for?

  • June 5, 2004, 7:52 p.m. CST

    reagan!

    by no-no

    21 jump street, Alf, V, the fall guy... Was it really as good as you remember it? (or where you just 20 years younger and in a better mood.)

  • June 5, 2004, 7:52 p.m. CST

    GreatOne

    by DocPazuzu

    Don't flatter yourself. You're not worth a "wonderful, intelligent thought process."

  • June 5, 2004, 7:55 p.m. CST

    I Prefered 'K9' with James Belushi

    by FLETCHWON

    K9(with James Belushi) kicks 'turner and Hooch's ass in the 'man-dog-buddy-movie' league! But personally i'd go for 'TOP DOG' with CHUCK NORRIS (he is NAILS!) .....if steven seagal happens to red this......MANDOGBUDDY MOVIE is the way to go dude! Steven Seagal is...... "The Dog-Trainer: Prepare to be NEUTERED"

  • June 5, 2004, 7:57 p.m. CST

    ronnie's best performance

    by Toe Jam

    in the video for genesis' "land of confusion." anyhow, let's just hope reagan's death from a truly horrific disease will prompt the fucking republicans and conservatives to finally realize the many great benefits of stem cell research. oh, and by the way ... reagan was shitty president.

  • June 5, 2004, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Trolls R' Us

    by Bregalad_

    You guys fell for that way too easy. Hook line and sinker. This is AICN Talk Backs, HELLO??? Don't you know transparent trolling when you see it? GreatOne -- I am admittedly impressed with your vitriol. Your righteous demagoguery ensures you will always be the life of the party. If you'll excuse me, there are more unsuspecting billy goats out there who don't know the troll is right under the bridge. Ciao.

  • June 5, 2004, 8 p.m. CST

    RE: Mr. Pink

    by Captain Opus

    Wow, what a heartless partisan shithead you are. I dislike, and even loathe a helluva a lot of people in the spotlight, but I would never sink so low as to spew mindless, uninformed propaganda about said person before the body was even warm. You're the type of person who makes this country look bad. Hiding behind a screen must make it so easy.

  • June 5, 2004, 8:01 p.m. CST

    "you want to make fun of something as horrific as the disease he

    by DocPazuzu

    But apparently wishing someone to burn in hell for eternity is okay, right GreatOne? Jesus, you are such an asshole.

  • June 5, 2004, 8:01 p.m. CST

    The Gipper

    by Nicky Butane

    Ronald Reagan's place will in history be defined decades from now. Was he the best president ever? Nope. Was he the worst? Nope again. He was in fact a needed change from the Carter administration. Did he defeat the Soviet's or did they defeat themselves? A little of both actually. Should the leader of the U.S. talked about the AIDS crisis sooner than he did? Yes. Lets be real for a moment here. This talk back isn't going to change anyone's opinion of Reagan. To the Right he's Saint Ronnie and to the Left he's the Prince of darkness. His passing only directly effects his secret service detail (those guys have been in limbo). The rest of us will post something on the internet or have a heated discussion with friends and a week from now will have moved on to the scandal de' jour or more likely tell others why GW is a Saint or a Demon. You may continue woth your rants and raves.

  • June 5, 2004, 8:06 p.m. CST

    sad day

    by DocPazuzu

    Rest in peace, Mr. President.

  • June 5, 2004, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Get real, people!

    by JaxStallion

    I am so, so tired of everyone saying what a friggin' angel this guy was. A "grandfather" he was not. He completely ignored the awful and devastating effects his economic theories created. He systematically reversed environmental laws and minority empowerment laws. True, he was a masterful politician and accomplished some amazing and history altering feats. But, how quickly everyone let this old bastard off the hook for the Iran-Contra affair!! "Oh, he's just a sweet old man, he wouldn't do anything bad." BS!! HE WAS RUNNING A SECRET AND COVERT GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE BASEMENT OF THE WHITE HOUSE!! Jesus, get real, people. Republicans- you doofs would follow ANYBODY who had a kindly face and said they went to church. Sheep.

  • June 5, 2004, 8:23 p.m. CST

    a foreigner point of view

    by Dead Megatron

    Ok, I realize that, for many Americans, the word 'foreinger' means something inferior, barbaric and worth of total disregard, but I don't give a freakin' ass about that, so here's my take all that talking-back: Reagan, for a Republican, was fairly good (certainly a lot better then the current Bush dinasty). Did he send weapons and drugs to Latin America to counter the communist inlfuence? Shyeah! But the commies did pretty much the same on Asia. USA and URSS, moral judgements aside, were fighting for world supremacy back then, and in wars, even a cold one, these thing happen (I should know, I'm from Brazil, and CIA and FBI did a lot of crap to us, as they continue to try to do to us and many others, but that's to be expected, no hard feelings on my part). It's not fair to blame him for something that had been happening for decades before he took office. Did he hesitated too much before addressing the AIDS problem? Sure, but so did everybody. "Deviant behavior", in this case, applies better for those in the Gay community who refused to stop the "party", even though there was a death risk involved (but everybody was crazy, promiscuous drug-users i the 80s, not just the gays.) and, most of all, the executives of the blood industry, who refused to make test tha t could have saved thousands, just because it would reduce their profit (these are the real deviants...). And, for GreatOne, "deviant behavior" is not homosexuality or drug use, since both have been common practices since the Dawn of Humankind, but to think someone deseres to die from such a horrif desease, like AIDS (or Alzheimer, for that matter, which was what took my grandmother). Deviante behavior is hatred, and bigotry. and, lastly (is there such a word? If not, it should be...), The Cold War has ended 20 years ago, it's high time you get over this irrational opinion of communism as "evil". They were not evil, they were just the other side, and in international politics and economics, here's a fact: evereybody is the badguy, for everybody cares only to cover their own asses. (and Soviet UNion was never really marxist, for Marx claimed the the transition from capitalism to socialism and then to communism would be a peaceful and natural one, and in the end there would even be a need for a central government, which was obviously not the case...). And, after all, ins

  • June 5, 2004, 8:23 p.m. CST

    a foreigner point of view

    by Dead Megatron

    Ok, I realize that, for many Americans, the word 'foreinger' means something inferior, barbaric and worth of total disregard, but I don't give a freakin' ass about that, so here's my take all that talking-back: Reagan, for a Republican, was fairly good (certainly a lot better then the current Bush dinasty). Did he send weapons and drugs to Latin America to counter the communist inlfuence? Shyeah! But the commies did pretty much the same on Asia. USA and URSS, moral judgements aside, were fighting for world supremacy back then, and in wars, even a cold one, these thing happen (I should know, I'm from Brazil, and CIA and FBI did a lot of crap to us, as they continue to try to do to us and many others, but that's to be expected, no hard feelings on my part). It's not fair to blame him for something that had been happening for decades before he took office. Did he hesitated too much before addressing the AIDS problem? Sure, but so did everybody. "Deviant behavior", in this case, applies better for those in the Gay community who refused to stop the "party", even though there was a death risk involved (but everybody was crazy, promiscuous drug-users i the 80s, not just the gays.) and, most of all, the executives of the blood industry, who refused to make test tha t could have saved thousands, just because it would reduce their profit (these are the real deviants...). And, for GreatOne, "deviant behavior" is not homosexuality or drug use, since both have been common practices since the Dawn of Humankind, but to think someone deseres to die from such a horrif desease, like AIDS (or Alzheimer, for that matter, which was what took my grandmother). Deviante behavior is hatred, and bigotry. and, lastly (is there such a word? If not, it should be...), The Cold War has ended 20 years ago, it's high time you get over this irrational opinion of communism as "evil". They were not evil, they were just the other side, and in international politics and economics, here's a fact: evereybody is the badguy, for everybody cares only to cover their own asses. (and Soviet UNion was never really marxist, for Marx claimed the the transition from capitalism to socialism and then to communism would be a peaceful and natural one, and in the end there would even be a need for a central government, which was obviously not the case...). And, after all, ins

  • June 5, 2004, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Ok. Calling someone a "heartless goon" and then wishing they get

    by IAmJacksUserID

    He was a good man. To hell with you other TBers who use this talkback to state otherwise.

  • June 5, 2004, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Mr. Pink, you're laughably ignorant

    by Durendal

    Funny how you go off on Ronnie not doing anything about AIDS when it was already pointed out very clearly that he did. Still, AIDS is spread by lascivious behavior (I'm not saying that as a Bible-thumper, simply as an observation), whether it's homosexual or heterosexual. Preference doesn't matter. AIDS was NOT "Everyone's Problem" as it was made out to be. Cancer is everyone's problem. And it's funny that both the CIA and Osama himself deny that Binny boy was trained by the US. Bin Laden has always hated America, do you honestly think he'd accept aid from us? Reagan wasn't perfect by any stretch. He had his faults, but I believe he was one of the better presidents we've had for quite a while.

  • June 5, 2004, 8:30 p.m. CST

    anyhoo..........

    by FLETCHWON

    didn't they make a sequel to 'K9' with James Belushi? bet it was shit!

  • June 5, 2004, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Nancy is now available?

    by FLETCHWON

    WOW....Nancy is single now....she's pretty HOT! Nancy was so couragous, and strong and compassionate standing by her husband for all those years! (and it gives me the horn)

  • June 5, 2004, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Reagan's Tesimony before the House Unamerican Activites Committe

    by Larry of Arabia

    STRIPLING: Mr. Reagan, are you a member of any guild? REAGAN: Yes, sir, the Screen Actors Guild. STRIPLING: How long have you been a member? REAGAN: Since June 1937. STRIPLING: Are you the president of the guild at the present time? REAGAN: Yes, sir. STRIPLING: When were you elected? REAGAN: That was several months ago. I was elected to replace Mr. (Robert) Montgomery when he resigned. STRIPLING: When does your term expire? REAGAN: The elections come up next month. STRIPLING: Have you ever held any other position in the Screen Actors Guild? REAGAN: Yes, sir. Just prior to the war I was a member of the board of directors, and just after the war, prior to my being elected president, I was a member of the board of directors. STRIPLING: As a member of the board of directors, as president of the Screen Actors Guild, and as an active member, have you at any time observed or noted within the organization a clique of either communists or fascists who were attempting to exert influence or pressure on the guild? REAGAN: Well, sir, my testimony must be very similar to that of Mr. (George) Murphy and Mr. (Robert) Montgomery. There has been a small group within the Screen Actors Guild which has consistently opposed the policy of the guild board and officers of the guild, as evidenced by the vote on various issues. That small clique referred to has been suspected of more or less following the tactics that we associate with the Communist Party. STRIPLING: Would you refer to them as a disruptive influence within the guild? REAGAN: I would say that at times they have attempted to be a disruptive influence. STRIPLING: You have no knowledge yourself as to whether or not any of them are members of the Communist Party? REAGAN: No, sir, I have no investigative force, or anything, and I do not know. STRIPLING: Has it ever been reported to you that certain members of the guild were communists? REAGAN: Yes, sir, I have heard different discussions and some of them tagged as communists. STRIPLING: Would you say that this clique has attempted to dominate the guild? REAGAN: Well, sir, by attempting to put their own particular views on various issues, I guess you would have to say that our side was attempting to dominate, too, because we were fighting just as hard to put over our views, and I think, we were proven correct by the figures -- Mr. Murphy gave the figures -- and those figures were always approximately the same, an average of 90 percent or better of the Screen Actors Guild voted in favor of those matters now guild policy. STRIPLING: Mr. Reagan, there has been testimony to the effect here that numerous communist-front organizations have been set up in Hollywood. Have you ever been solicited to join any of those organizations or any organization which you considered to be a communist-front organization? REAGAN: Well, sir, I have received literature from an organization called the Committee for a Far-Eastern Democratic Policy. I don't know whether it is communist or not. I only know that I didn't like their views and as a result I didn't want to have anything to do with them. STRIPLING: Were you ever solicited to sponsor the Joint Anti-Fascist Refugee Committee? REAGAN: No, sir, I was never solicited to do that, but I found myself misled into being a sponsor on another occasion for a function that was held under the auspices of the Joint Anti-Fascist Refugee Committee. STRIPLING: Did you knowingly give your name as a sponsor? REAGAN: Not knowingly. Could I explain what that occasion was? STRIPLING: Yes sir. REAGAN: I was called several weeks ago. There happened to be a financial drive on to raise money to build a badly needed hospital called the All Nations Hospital. I think the purpose of the building is so obvious by the title that it has the support of most of the people of Los Angeles. Certainly of most of the doctors. Some time ago I was called to the telephone. A woman introduced herself by name. I didn't make any particular note of her name, and I couldn't give it now. She told me that there would be a recital held at which Paul Robeson would sing, and she said that all the money for the tickets would go to the hospital, and asked if she could use my name as one of the sponsors. I hesitated for a moment, because I don't think that Mr. Robeson's and my political views coincide at all; and then I thought I was being a little stupid because, I thought, here is an occasion where Mr. Robeson is perhaps appearing as an artist, and certainly the object, raising money, is above any political consideration: it is a hospital supported by everyone. I have contributed money myself. So I felt a little bit as if I had been stuffy for a minute, and I said, "Certainly, you can use my name." I left town for a couple of weeks and, when I returned, I was handed a newspaper story that said that this recital was held at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles under the auspices of the Joint Anti-Fascist Refugee Committee. The principal speaker was Emil Lustig, Robert Burman took up a collection, and the remnants of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade were paraded on the platform. I did not, in the newspaper story, see one word about the hospital. I called the newspaper and said I am not accustomed to writing to editors but would like to explain my position, and he laughed and said, "You needn't bother, you are about the 50th person who had also been listed as sponsors of that affair." STRIPLING: Would you say from your observation that that is typical of the tactics of the communists, to solicit and use the names of prominent people to either raise money or gain support? REAGAN: I think it is in keeping with their tactics, yes sir. STRIPLING: Do you think there is anything democratic about those tactics? REAGAN: I do not, sir. STRIPLING: As president of the Screen Actors Guild, you are familiar with the jurisdictional strike which has been going on in Hollywood for some time? REAGAN: Yes, sir. STRIPLING: Have you ever had any conference with any of the labor officials regarding this strike? REAGAN: Yes, sir. STRIPLING: Do you know whether the communists have participated in any way with this strike? REAGAN: Sir, the first time that this word "communist" was ever injected into any of the meetings concerning the strike was at a meeting in Chicago with Mr. William Hutchinson, president of the carpenters' union, who were on strike at the time. He asked the Screen Actors Guild to submit terms to Mr. (Richard) Walsh, and he told us to tell Mr. Walsh that, if he would give in on these terms, he in turn would break run this Sorrell and the other commies out -- I am quoting him -- and break it up. I might add that Mr. Walsh and Mr. Sorrell were running the strike for Mr. Hutchinson in Hollywood. STRIPLING: Mr. Reagan, what is your feeling about what steps should be taken to rid the motion picture industry of any communist influences? REAGAN: Well, sir, 99 percent of us are pretty well aware of what is going on, and I think, within the bounds of our democratic rights and never once stepping over the rights given us by democracy, we have done a pretty good job in our business of keeping those people's activities curtailed. After all, we must recognize them at present as a political party. On that basis we have exposed their lies when we came across them, we have opposed their propaganda, and I can certainly testify that in the case of the Screen Actors Guild we have been eminently successful in preventing them from, with their usual tactics, trying to run a majority of an organization with a well organized minority. In opposing those people, the best thing to do is make democracy work. In the Screen Actors Guild we make it work by insuring everyone a vote and by keeping everyone informed. I believe that, as Thomas Jefferson put it, if all the American people know all of the facts they will never make a mistake. Whether the party should be outlawed, that is a matter for the government to decide. As a citizen, I would hesitate to see any political party outlawed on the basis of its political ideology. However, if it is proven that an organization is an agent of foreign power, or in any way not a legitimate political party -- and I think the government is capable of proving that -- then that is another matter. I happen to be very proud of the industry in which I work; I happen to be very proud of the way in which we conducted the fight. I do not believe the communists have ever at any time been able to use the motion picture screen as a sounding board for their philosophy or ideology. CHAIRMAN: There is one thing that you said that interested me very much. That was the quotation from Jefferson. That is why this committee was created by the House of Representatives: to acquaint the American people with the facts. Once the American people are acquainted with the facts there is no question but what the American people will do the kind of job that they want done: that is, to make America just as pure as we can possibly make it. We want to thank you very much for coming here today. REAGAN: Sir, I detest, I abhor their philosophy, but I detest more than that their tactics, which are those of the fifth column, and are dishonest, but at the same time I never as a citizen want to see our country become urged, by either fear or resentment of this group, that we ever compromise with any of our democratic principles through that fear or resentment. I still think that democracy can do it.

  • June 5, 2004, 8:57 p.m. CST

    by Tesarta

    I'm a raging liberal, readily admitted. I despised quite a lot of what Reagan did and didn't do during his two terms. I think he did a lot of damage in a lot of ways. BUT. He was the President of the United States, and for that at least he deserves respect. He wanted to make the world a better place, whether or not we agree with the place he envisioned. His death should be mourned and his accomplishments respected, no matter how few of them we may feel there were. I hope he can have now the dignity that was taken from him by disease.

  • June 5, 2004, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Goodbye Ronnie :(

    by BudgieWudgie

    When I heard that Ronald Reagan died, I cried. He had such an impact on me through my younger years, and I bet millions of other people as well. I know he has suffered of Alzheimer's Disease in the past 10 years and from that, he was suffering. I'll never forget your smile and charm Ronald, and I'm sure millions of others feel the same way. :)

  • June 5, 2004, 9:02 p.m. CST

    To Mister Pink

    by Lil Vibin'Rabbit

    That is an incredibly asinine and insensitive post you made there. Reagan was a human being while as President. Human beings make mistakes all the times, even the great ones, too. You may say he's the worst Prez in your opinion but he ain't incompetent, he knew what he was doing and he liked to tease the media just to keep them on toes. The Iran-contra scandal was an affair that blackened his Presidency but that's nothing compared to the perverted Monica scandal under Clinton. Reagan's SDI program and his military build-up costs forced the gradual demise of the Soviet Union to the point that the Soviets were financially bankrupting themselves brought on by their inefficient military spendings. Even Gorbachev conceded this was so. The AIDS crisis was not Reagan's problem. Period. It was the problems started by fanatical gay activists wanting to keep their bathhouses open, ignoring the high risk behaviors of their homosexual lifestyles and the dangerous risks of sharing IV needles by the ignorant public. Reagan already knew AIDS was a disease to be reckoned but wasn't sold on how dangerous and widespread the disease goes. Keep in mind, AIDS wasn't just the no. 1 cause of death in the 1980s, it was cancer and heart attack. Those two took priority over AIDS as each was affecting generations of Americans born between 1890s to 1930s in greater numbers. Quality of medicinal and health technologies were substandard in the 70s and 80s before improving in the 1990s. Reagan was the 20th century's greatest US President after FDR and JFK. He deserved the greater recognition for his accomplishments in his two terms and history will judge him very favorably. He had a remarkable life. Not bad for an ex-liberal Democrat (you don't like traitors who switched parties, do you, Mister Pink?). Reagan will be forever remembered and you, Mister Pink, are just another hating asshole posting nothing memorable. RIP, Gipper.

  • June 5, 2004, 9:03 p.m. CST

    RIP Reagan. You seemed like a charming guy.

    by PumpyMcAss

    Yet I think it should be mentioned that you definitely CAN get HIV from straight sex. I'm serious. Maybe some of you hardcore Falwell Fascists out there should get tested. Unless you've managed to turn your sexual needs into violence against abortion clinics, then your're probably safe.

  • June 5, 2004, 9:05 p.m. CST

    RIP

    by Darth Thoth

    God bless his soul. While his and my politics are as different as night and day, in the end, we all still remain God's children and brothers and sisters. RIP.

  • June 5, 2004, 9:08 p.m. CST

    GreatOne:

    by lemmdin

    1)Actually, Reagan was selling chemical and bio weapons to both Iran and Iraq and... 2)Iraq was in no danger of falling to the Soviets, far from it(where'd you get that idea? ) 3)The ends does not justify the means(propping up and supplying a vicious dictator with illicit arms).

  • June 5, 2004, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Rabbit

    by PumpyMcAss

    "The Iran-contra scandal was an affair that blackened his Presidency but that's nothing compared to the perverted Monica scandal under Clinton." What an odd thing to say. How is a man getting head a bigger deal than the selling of arms and numerous deaths of many? No matter what your politics, having more of an issue with a man's private life than with murder is a very strange point of view to have indeed.

  • June 5, 2004, 9:15 p.m. CST

    GreatBigJackass is more appropriate

    by JaxStallion

    GreatOne, You're such a nazi moron it's stupifying. How could anyone like you EVER graduate from High School? Or, did you? We should stop rapes instead of pass out life-saving medication (which you so idiotically refer to as "pills" as if wanting medication is a bad thing)? Stop rapes? How ya' gonna do that, brainiac? Ya' gonna go over there yourself and stop them? Nobody is saying we should do one instead of the other, anyway. Of course, we should do what we can stop rapes, but don't deny them medicine when they need it, bozo. You are so, so stupid! Wow. It's almost hilarious how dumb you are. Except when you start thinking of how dangerous you sort of morons are. Disgraceful. Wake up, there, chief! It's a big, wide world out there- America is only a piece of it. You better start showing some humanity to your fellow human beings, or there won't be any world left for you to disgrace with your petty hatred.

  • June 5, 2004, 9:21 p.m. CST

    wow, there are more assholes in here than an oscar meyers proces

    by ethandarkseid

    First of all, reagans body has'nt even fully decomposed yet....so some of you hide behind your computers and spout off about events that probably happened before you were a gleam in your daddy's blood-shot eye. Facts are facts, and its refreshing to see people in here presenting the true FACTS about reagan and his policies in a clear and concise manner, but you little turd-monkeys love to shoot back with a bunch of left-wing revisionist HISTORY that makes NO sense whatsoever. Come on, reagan ADDRESSED the issue of AIDS! It's in the god-damn archives! So you losers that are insisting on bashing the man for his views or lack thereof on a brand new disease are sadly off-topic and very inappropiate. AIDS was'nt such a huge topic back then yet reagan made it a priority. So bringing it up as some sort of "..and the band played on" type-conspiracy is silly and just plain moronic. Reagan was against big goverment and was for LESS government and pushed for responsibility of the individual and their edging away from big government being a big part of their lives. Does'nt that MEAN anything to you? Are you that far gone that you are blind to such details? Reagan was AND is one of the greats. One of my favorite stories. The then president of mexico was visiting the white house during reagans presidency. Well, during carters administration some panty-waste PR-type decided it would be nice to present the mexican president with a nice gift-wrapped present. The contents escape me. Soooo, during reagans run when the president of mexico visited, reagan HANDS the president of mexico with an antique rifle from his OWN personal collection. See, reagan showed respect that real men show each other. THAT'S the kind of man we are dealing with. He loved his family, he loved his country and he loved the people of america as well as any honest hard working individual that suffered to make it here. Even my left-wing hispanic relatives are mourning the passing of this great man. So please, I know this won't stop you high-schoolers from spewing shitty rhetoric and laugh begging quips about alzeimers and his (false) stance on AIDS (which is still flourishing) and whatever else your shitty ass high school or liberal college wants to brainwash you with. Leave the man alone. And show some respect. A great soul has passed today. Ronald Reagan. 1911-2004

  • June 5, 2004, 9:30 p.m. CST

    So what....

    by punjeb

    No big suprise that President Reagan would be glorified or demonized here...I've seen it done to folks here from Jesus to Allah to Buddah, probably Ghandi, Lincoln, Moses, Dr. Albert Schwitzer, Hitler, Saddam, Stalin etc. (Of course, none of them ever worked with a chimp...). So what!? It is opinion! That means the only right or wrong is your point of view. Personally, as much of a liberal as I am, I thought he was an effective world leader...as an actor, he was as comfortable as a favorite old shoe . (loved King's Row, The Killers and Knute Rockne!) As a person, he sparkled! Confident, optimistic, caring...I'd like to think he was in those ways what is best about America. Besides, he had a great sense of humor! Favorite ad-lib: he was discussing his westerns "And then there was 'Cattle Queen Of Montana'(pause) and no, I didn't have the title role". Go rest high on that mountain, Gipper!

  • June 5, 2004, 9:32 p.m. CST

    The Greatest President ever!

    by HarrisonsDad

    I remember when Ronnie helped us preserve the Union and freed the slaves. When he brought the nation together after those cowardly Japanese attacked our fleet at Pearl Harbor. And can anyone forget the way he stood up to Nikita and forced him to remove the missiles from Cuba? Of course, I haven't mentioned that he led our first army to become the father of our country or that he penned the Declaration of Independence and sent Lewis and Clark to discover the Northwest Passage after he bought Louisiana from France. Yes, Ronald Reagan truly was the greatest US President ever! All others pale in comparison. Okay, enough with the sarcasm. Ronald Reagan was a good president, but greatest? Lets add a little perspective here!

  • June 5, 2004, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Great One, Durendal...

    by Rebeck

    Just keep talking and showing what bigoted fucking idiots you are. I was going to come on here and say something semi-positive about Reagan's first term (I voted for him), and I don't agree with tearing ANYONE up the minute they've passed away. (God knows you would if it was Clinton - you'd be dancing in the fucking streets, you hypocrits) But every time you talk about AIDS you show what ignorance truly is. AIDS is a DISEASE, not a judgment from God. Not only children, but hemophiliacs, people who got blood transfusions, and health workers helping those people all died from that disease. Ooh - I guess that blows your whole Christian-brainwash theory, huh? My brother died from that disease and he was ten times the man of either of you stupid fucks. You can't get all weepy about someone suffering from Alzheimers and then say, yeah, those faggots should burn in Hell. Listen to yourself for ONE FUCKING MINUTE. If you think that's what Christianity is all about, then I'm sad for you.

  • June 5, 2004, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Oh, but Richard Biggs must have done nothing

    by Nuke-Marine

    Great, you post remembrance to a 2-bit actor that even the Academy refused to give a lifetime achievement award. But let one person mention the Richard Biggs (Dr. Franklin of Babylon 5) passing went virtuosly unnoticed on your "hip, extreme, kewl, 133t" website and said postings get deleted. Reagan, being a two-term US president, gets mentioned in mainstream news sources but what the hell does that have to do with entertainment to rate mentioning here? Maybe if you mentioned "The Reagans" in passing and the shitstorm that mini-series caused then you might have a point. By the way, we all watch "in memorium" during the Oscars and nary a percentage points of the faces shown make on this site.

  • June 5, 2004, 9:53 p.m. CST

    GreatOne=WRONG

    by lemmdin

    Sorry but Ronnie violated inernational law when he sold those chem/bio weapons to Iraq, and continued to sell them even after it was known Saddam was using them to gas the Kurds. to supply him with conventional weapons is one thing, but supplying him with chem/bio wepaons so he could use them on civilians is another. Ronnie and Saddam should have been tried for war crimes.

  • June 5, 2004, 9:58 p.m. CST

    I Think "Nazi" Just About Covers It

    by Rebeck

    Give us your views on Jews DESERVING the Holocaust and Blacks DESERVING slavery. You're a real 21st Century guy, Great One. You and Osama actually have a certain fanaticism in common.

  • June 5, 2004, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Rebeck, you don't know a damn thing.

    by Durendal

    Did you know I'm an agnostic? No, of course you didn't. You just assumed a whole load of shit and threw it all over the board. I'm not trying to push any kind of "Christian agenda" here. Yes, there were tragedies in which people got the disease through benign means such as blood transfusions. Still, the disease ultimately spread because of a lascivious lifestyle. I'm not saying it was because of gay people. AIDS doesn't care what your damn sexual orientation is. It spreads through lots of sex and sharing needles. But you go ahead and label me with all sorts of shit, then tell me exactly what I think and call me a hypocrite based on your own asinine assumptions. I never once made a slam against homosexuality. Try reading my posts before getting all self-righteous.

  • June 5, 2004, 10:14 p.m. CST

    they should feed his body to homeless people

    by Winterchili

    Everyone wins

  • June 5, 2004, 10:26 p.m. CST

    Some legacy

    by lemmdin

    Ronald Reagan's Criminal Administration: Ronald Reagan's Cabinet "By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."

  • June 5, 2004, 10:30 p.m. CST

    you gotta be kidding

    by ginta1971

    Anyone passing is always a sad event, and I send out condolonces to his family. That being said though, to whomever it was above that called him the greatest President ever...that has to be one of the most ignorant things I have ever read. I'm not sure he would even rank in the top 10. I was going to say it was the most ignorant thing ever, but then I read all of GreatOne's posts....those are just simply amazing.

  • June 5, 2004, 10:33 p.m. CST

    reagan betrayed america

    by brainstormanime

    Reagan was a fucking idiot. He lied to the people and broke the laws of this country by dealing weapons with our enemies and supporting death, torture and terror in Central America and Afghanistan. He should have been impeached. Instead he's treated like an American hero. Fucked up. Deficits, war and hypocrasy, the Reagan legacy.

  • June 5, 2004, 10:51 p.m. CST

    RIP Ronald Reagan a King among Kings

    by SexyBeast

    Ronald Reagan was a great president. Lets not forget in 1984 he carried every state except Minnesota. Moron college kids who follow the herd and don't think for themselves probably have no idea what Reagan accomplished. All they know are what the liberal websites tell them to think.

  • June 5, 2004, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Reagan

    by SoonerSean

    Amazing that during a day when politicians from both sides of the aisle and dozens more folks from the press corps have praised Reagan as one of the greatest presidents, at least since Truman, there's plenty of folks on here to insult him and his legacy. Reagan did a lot to restore America following the Vietnam war and the late-70's. He ran up deficits, but oversaw one of the most prosperous times in our history. He restored the pride of the military and in doing so, ground the Soviet Union into dust when they couldn't keep up. He signed THE FIRST nuclear arms reduction treaty. Blast away at him for the faults that drive you nuts, but many Americans, myself included, will look back on his Presidency with pride and the knowledge that he did a lot of good things for our country and the world. America lost a proud patriot today and it's shameful to read some of the comments on this board.

  • June 5, 2004, 11:11 p.m. CST

    by JamieCOTC

    I wasn

  • June 5, 2004, 11:17 p.m. CST

    "Okay, future-boy, who's President in 1985?" ~ "Ronald Reagan!"

    by Osmosis Jones

    "Ronald Reagan?" THE ACTOR?!?"

  • June 5, 2004, 11:32 p.m. CST

    9/11

    by Nicky Butane

    I have no love for the man but it's to bad Reagan and his administration weren't at the helm on 9/11. Most of the Middle East would be a glass parking lot and gas would cost 3 cents a gallon. Really not a bad idea if you think about it, and it's only a matter of time until it happens (we all know it).

  • June 5, 2004, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Relax

    by doc_manhattan

    This is after all Talkback of Aint It Cool. So the hate, spit and venom is to be expected. I mean Reagan, good or bad, was a very ideological type of president, very republican and to us in Europe seemed like a very strong symbol of the right/conservatives. Of course all kinds of people have opinions and strong reactions on a praising eulogy here, no matter how heartfelt or non-political. And I'm pretty sure that if (a healthy) Reagan could have seen this now he wouldnt have given a damn about any of this, given the forum and all I mean. And enough with the irrelevant preoccupation with peoples sexual behaviour, that hasnt got anything to do with whether Reagan did or didnt adress and combat AIDS as the epidemic it was (And I'm not saying he didnt). Sure people have personal responsibility, but that doesnt deprive american citizens, no matter how degenerate they may be, of rightfully expecting for example sexual education, information and costly medical research.

  • June 5, 2004, 11:50 p.m. CST

    fuck this Nazi Retared Drooling Gipper fuck

    by Tall_Boy

    Calgary is in 2nd OT against Tampa and it might be Don Cherry's last show ever. now THAT my friends is fuckin news.

  • June 5, 2004, 11:52 p.m. CST

    "Rambo" an urban legend

    by Darth Brooks

    According to a 1984 AFI interview, Ronald Reagan's favorite movie was "Breaker Morant," *not* "Rambo:First Blood". Thank you and farewell, Mr. President. P.S. He was the *bomb* in "The West Point Story."

  • June 6, 2004, 12:05 a.m. CST

    The greatest president of my lifetime

    by vikingkitty

    I can only hope America will someday be blessed with another president as great as Reagan. Limiting government, crushing communism, lowering taxes - we rode the wave created by his policies for years.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:12 a.m. CST

    The scariest words ever spoken

    by vikingkitty

    We are from the government, and we're here to help. I'm proud to have lived in a time in which we had a president that recognized the truth in this statement.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:19 a.m. CST

    For those that want some examples of how effective a communicato

    by vikingkitty

    If you're tired of listening to the liberal media's constant attempts to make the 80's sound like the worst decade in history, rather than the great time for productive Americans that is was, you might want to read, "Reagan: a Life in Letters." The man was a prolific writer, and most of his correspondence can be found in this book. Almost 900 pages of nothing but letters, containing everything from his core beliefs to history lessons. The man was a class act.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:20 a.m. CST

    Reagan's Firsts:

    by Dataset

    1.First to turn America into a DEBTOR nation. 2. First to increase DEBT faster than growth of national income 3. First to increase DEBT faster than growth of G.D.P.. 4. First to double the DEFICIT 5. First to

  • June 6, 2004, 12:26 a.m. CST

    "The South Will Rise Again!"

    by dr. robert

    Why is when some evil fuck passes away we've all got to bend over backwards in an attempt to find something nice to say about them? I have a feeling some of you (including Moriarty) have forgotten just how serious the impact of that arseholes policies were.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:28 a.m. CST

    This November, let's win one for the Gipper, and keep America pr

    by vikingkitty

  • June 6, 2004, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Goodbye Mr. President. You will live in our hearts for the rest

    by islander

    My earliest memorie of a Presidential election was Reagan v. Carter v. Anderson(independent) in 1980. I followed Mr. Reagan ever since. I learned alot about him and myself. It is people like him that make this country great. Ever optomistic, independent, respectful of others as individuals with rights and letting us keep more of our money :). Mr. Reagan will never be gone. He is an example of who we are and what we can achive. America the leader of the free world. And tell Bob Hope up there in heaven we said hello.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:30 a.m. CST

    Salute

    by Soundofred

    god bless you ronny, and motherfuck all of you who would try and dihonor a man the day of his death. God help you all

  • June 6, 2004, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Reagan

    by Jervis Tetch

    1. Notable in "King's Row," "Knue Rockne" "The Hasty Heart" and a few other A movies. 2. Really good as the bad guy in Don Siegel's "The Killers." Faces down Lee friggin' Marvin, for chrissake. 3. Found his support for the Star Wars program from a different movie entirely: Hitchcock's 1966 "Torn Curtain," in which the MacGuffin was essentially "Star Wars" technology 20 years early. Reagan knew that movie and liked the Star Wars idea. 4. Whether we're liberals here, or conservatives here, or Commies here, or Fascists here, not one of us commenting here will ever in our lives achieve what he did. RIP.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Reagan DID End The Cold War

    by Cptn Sheridan

    The Russian economy would not have been able to sustain the continued costs of the Cold War so Gorbachev and Reagan negotiated an end which lead to the fall of communism. The reason that the Russian economy couldn't keep up is because the U.S. spent so damn much to begin with. At least, y'know, that's what the Professors who specialized in East European political science or history used at Cornell University argued. But, who are they compared to the know-it-all 14 years olds who frequent these boards?

  • June 6, 2004, 12:37 a.m. CST

    GreatOne, I urge you to calm yourself

    by vikingkitty

    You're arguing with the lowest rung of society. The bums, leeches, and haters of our constitutional republic don't matter in the grand scheme of things.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:55 a.m. CST

    later hater

    by tHEmOOG

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  • June 6, 2004, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Tootles you evil fuck

    by War_Tourist

    The arch-elemental of the republican nightmare. Reagan was the first sad and painful step in this country's legitimizing of selfishness, hatred, fear and human repression. Only through his deluded belief in invisible superheroes (namely god) would it be conceivable for the fascist currently running this country to be tolerated. There's only one country invading and overthrowing soverign nations in the 21st century and that's america. Thanks for making it all possible you rabid warhawk. Covert operations undermining elected governments, supporting amoral fundementalist arabs, and pushing around 3rd world nations. Thanks Ronnie for giving us the vocabulary for world war III. You deserved to suffer more.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Thanks JamieCOTC

    by ethandarkseid

    Thanks for setting aside your political beliefs and recognizing the man and what our country meant to him. My respect is yours. PS: I love the story how the air traffic controllers went on strike because they wanted higher pay. The year was 84 I think and they were getting paid on average, $38,000.00, a year plus benefits. AND they could get overtime, etc. Well, they wanted more pay and went on strike freezing operations. Reagan told them to get back to work and gave them 24 hours or they would get fired, reminding them that they were federal employees. They scoffed at him and continued their strike. At 24 hours reagan FIRED all of them. lol.

  • June 6, 2004, 1:12 a.m. CST

    "The Hasty Heart"

    by Uncapie

    I actually had the honor to meet Mr. Reagan and he was a gracious, kind gentleman. If any of you film afficiandos out there have never seen his performance in "The Hasty Heart", rent the film. It'll open your eyes. God bless, Ronald Reagan.

  • June 6, 2004, 1:17 a.m. CST

    cassavetes for emperor...

    by joe brady

    fuck reagan, may he burn forever, and soon be joined by bush, wolfowitz, ashcroft, whedon, rice, thompson, moore, schumacher, mcg, all scientologists, and especially that cocksucker joss whedon. whedon for president of ass- rape!

  • June 6, 2004, 1:29 a.m. CST

    for those...

    by joe brady

    for those that want some examples of how effective vikingkitty is at giving really great blowjobs, please visit squirt.com for his next scheduled appearance. Soon to perform at a rest stop near you!

  • June 6, 2004, 1:35 a.m. CST

    I'll Gladly Pay For Reagan's Legacy

    by MrStinger

    I grew up in the darkest years of the Cold War--my fear that I would live through a full nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union fueled by movies like "Fail-Safe." President Reagan defeated the Soviet Union principally by spending so much on defense, including SDI, that the communist economy couldn't keep up. I know this started the United States on a dangerous path toward large, perhaps permanent deficits, the costs of which I, and my descendents, will have to pay for decades. But compared to what I still believe was an inevitable nuclear war, the high cost of Reagan's policies pale in comparison to the horrible alternative. He won the Cold War, and avoided nuclear holocaust, by running his balance sheet in deficit. Worth every penny, Mr. President. Worth every penny.

  • "Well, there you go again." One for you, Gipper.

  • June 6, 2004, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Wow, I just read the article and this entire hate-filled talkbac

    by Regicidal_Maniac

    ...and regardless of what side of the political fence a person is on it's pretty clear to all that this black-hearted, jack-booted, ill-informed, bile-spewing, sub-human called GreatOne is far and away the single most vile so called "Christian" ever encountered. Does he win some kind of prize? A copy of Mein Kampf perhaps? Sad to see that modern society is still vomiting up such medieval religious fanatics. Very sad. GreatOne, you make me sick, and I'm sure most decent people feel the same way, your 'God' would be ashamed. It's almost enough to make me wish there was a higher power to sit in judgement of this pathetic little blood-boiler and other backwards, ignorant, self-righteous hate-filled zealots like you. Now in regards to Reagan, he certainly made America a country to be feared by the rest of the world. Whether you see that as a good thing or not depends I guess on whether you live merely in the man-made Nation State America as a proud, patriotic and above all God-fearing citizen of an iron fisted Democratic Superpower or whether you choose to share planet Earth with its zillions of other cohabitants. At the very least he wasn't a Bush.

  • June 6, 2004, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Great One?

    by joe brady

    I re-dub thee "Retarded One".

  • June 6, 2004, 1:45 a.m. CST

    hey Beglada, about your "saint" comment

    by Rcamacho2278

    Just to remind you AIDS is a lifestyle disease. You get aids, you brought it upon yourself.Not like cancer, or alzheimers, so fuck off ,

  • I salute you Ronald Reagan, my 40th President. He was loved and he wouldn't have been elected 2x if he wasn't. Good or bad he was our President. My grandmother has Alzheimer

  • June 6, 2004, 1:53 a.m. CST

    having read all the posts...

    by joe brady

    i'm now rather ashamed of dismissing the former prez in such a juvenile manner. sure, he was a conservative asshole, but the disease that he died from is no laughing matter. and the death of anyone should never be a platform for spite. i apologize.

  • June 6, 2004, 2:12 a.m. CST

    My two cents

    by greatczersghost

    Love him or hate him, the guy (like most American presidents) did his best. He had some highs and some lows, but he worked hard for eight years. My condolences to his family and friends. Isn't it interesting how disgusting people on both sides of the political divide can be on this website? For all the communication the Internet provides, the annonymity that comes with it all too often allows people to lose all inhibitions and say whatever they feel like. In some cases, that can build community. In others, it can tear communities apart. For me, it makes me want to find another site to visit where I can enjoy reading about movies and still interact with people who have dignity. Is that possible on the Internet? I don't know. But the more "global" our society becomes, the smaller the world gets, somehow, the more we divide ourselves from each other. Like now, why am I sitting here caring what other people write when I could be in bed with my wife? I'm out. And for the record, if Tom Hanks ever runs for office, I think we can all agree that it won't be Turner and Hooch everyone brings up to laugh about. Two words: Bosom Buddies.

  • June 6, 2004, 2:27 a.m. CST

    poor old dead ronnie

    by joe brady

    alzheiher's is blind, so ronnie can look forward to an afterlife full of better souls than his. R.I.P.

  • June 6, 2004, 2:40 a.m. CST

    Jaguaro

    by Regicidal_Maniac

    I never wished Reagan harm. Alzheimer's

  • June 6, 2004, 3:05 a.m. CST

    AIDS..

    by poopyface

    This is by no means a tirade on the moral acceptance or intolerance of homosexuality. Call me a homophobe if you must, and Im sure somebody will (even though it's a politically correct term designed to appeal to male vanity by forcing them to accept homosexuality or be labeled "afraid of homosexuals"). But facts are facts, when it comes to AIDS. You cant compare the AIDS epidemic in Africa to that in America, considering the quality of health care in most African countries, the large amount of rapes per capita, and the practice amongst tribal communities of having communal sex partners. Not to mention any multiple uses of needles, and other methods of possibly transferring the disease. In America, here are a few numbers regarding AIDS. In 1999, according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, about 50% of HIV infected people were men who had sex with other men. 28% were intravenous drug users. Another 6% were both homosexual males and IV drug users. Another 5% got AIDS from sex with an IV drug user, or a woman having sex with a bi-sexual man. 1% got it from a blood transfusion. Another 1% were hemophiliacs. Another 1% came from people who had sex with someone who was a hemophiliac or had a blood transfusion. That leaves us with a strapping 8%, listed has getting the disease through heterosexual sex. That's the reported number, anyway. These statistics are largely based on information given by the patients themselves. Hmmm..do you think anyone might have a reason to cover up their drug use or homosexuality, seeing how America is oh-so accepting of both? Chances are, the percentage of people getting AIDS in this country ONLY through heterosexual sex is significantly lower than that 8%. The bottom line is that HIV, whether it fits your political ends or not, is largely spread through homosexual sex, drug use, or poor health care of some type.

  • June 6, 2004, 3:29 a.m. CST

    Reagan's Legacy....He Will Be Missed

    by repus_reteet

    Hey Everyone...very tired here, so if I ramble forgive me. Supporter of Reagan here, and just supporter of true leaders in general. Truly a man who had his faults, and knew how far he was able to press things. I'm afraid pedents will focus too harshly on economic ideas and not on the moral highs he helped create....there's a time and a place for both, and there's a right man at the right time. Reagan was that man, and he worked hard for this country. To everyone out there predisposed to their own politics, please keep the personal attacks at a minimum at least this once. Thank YOU Aint It Cool, for having the dignity to leave the political prejudice out of the tribute to the Gipper. His was a life that was far more extraordinary than most would ever realize, and if certain special interest groups have their way, that may soon change as well. True, Reagan began his career in entertainment (radio, to be exact) and ended a rather forgettable actor whose time in the spotlight had past...but that wasn't what made Reagan the man he was. To those who know that there was more than just a bodybuilder under Arnold's skin, there was far more in store for Reagan. Check out his history...find out what his ties were to the S.A.G during the 40's...see his stance on things. His humble roots fighting the communist powers that were...his political activism during the Cold War. Fate had a purpose yet for him. I always imagined that Reagan shared more in common with our revolutionary fathers than his contemporaries....and this startled them. From Lou Cannon to Edmund Morris, he startled even his closest friends and confused the world. In a world run by virtual committee, should it come as too great a shock when it took the crazy gung-ho policies of the "Great Communicator" to get our universal message across? Was he solely responsible for ending the Cold War? You'll never get everyone to agree...but certainly no man was more instrumental, more aware of his personal manifest destiny than he. The economic highs and lows that saw Reagan's administration bring America back from our lowest moral lapse in history (the Carter years) to literally lead the world into the economic climate it finds itself in now...that was us. Reagan spoke for the majority of Americans who could no longer speak for themselves.... Perhaps the most vocal of his critics have found their own lack of understanding in the world market he worked in as faults of their own. Reagan at his best was unconvential, a man with the balls to stand up to absolutely everyone else and lead his country through hell and highwater. He was truly a leader when America needed one, an imperfect being and one who truly earned his respect. He will be missed. Please respect his for that.

  • June 6, 2004, 3:59 a.m. CST

    Mr. Reagan was a man.

    by Uncapie

    Love him or hate him, you must repsect him. He lived a long, incredible life. You have to remember, this was the son of an alcoholic father. He was seven years old when World War I ended. He went through the depression. Did his duty during World War II making instructional films for the soldiers. He saw the progress America made over the first half of the twentieth century none of us could fathom. This man was the commander-in-chief of the United States Of America. He was the fortieth president of a nation that is only 229 years old. He will be remembered long after all of us are dead and buried. I am very proud to have met him as he was an icon of this nation.

  • June 6, 2004, 4:07 a.m. CST

    For the hate for the great RR

    by TheDarkJoker

    I hope all of you who are glad Reagan is dead have your whole family raped by savage men dripping with the ebola virus. Nothing angers me more than to be glad someone is dead because he was a president you didnt like. DROP DEAD!!!

  • June 6, 2004, 4:30 a.m. CST

    Reality Check

    by Lazarus Long

    Now this is a wayyy exaggerated comparison, but would it be okay to shit all over Hitler or Stalin the day they died? While Reagan might not have systematically exterminated over 10 million people, he has A LOT of blood on his hands, especially in Central America. Many of the the Reagan defenders on this talkback keep telling us how much of a Real Man he was. Big Fucking Deal. So was John Wayne, and he was a bigoted asshole. I'd like to hear a right-winger come on here and fess up to all the crap Reagan got away with and explain how the ends justified the means. You don't claim to be a bastion of Democracy and go picking and choosing among dictators based on what foreign government stands to make the U.S. the most money. America is supposed to be a capitalistic, free enterprise society, but don't you think that's taking it too far? And when you talk about Reagan making people proud to be Americans, how dare you ignore the millions of poor people in this country who suffered greatly under his economic plan. If the rich getting richer and the poor getting flushed down the toilet makes you proud to be an American, you really have lose sight of the true ideals of what this country was founded on. Reagan made a lot of great speeches. He loved this country, it would seem. But his bright and shining future didn't exist for a significantly large portion of American citizens, and while you're paying lip service to a dead public servant, it would be nice to acknowledge that.

  • June 6, 2004, 4:44 a.m. CST

    Just a note

    by BigTed

    Jingoism is a filthy habit.

  • June 6, 2004, 5:11 a.m. CST

    max headroom!!!

    by speed

    man i loved that show! that's the first time i ever saw cabaret voltaire's "sensoria" and was gob smacked by the 180degree camera movements. awesome stuff at the time. Caberet voltaire also have a great song about reagan on their "code" album called "thank you america". well, great if you understand irony ............. one of my lasting impressions from the reagan era was the movie "red dawn". i saw that at the cinema at the insistence of my rambo lovin' friend. i relented because it had harry dean stanton in it. no disrespect to anyone was is saddened by reagan's death, as i'm sure many are, but this for me has brought back a rush of great cheesy 80's memories. ............................................ "And that's the way it is." WTF retard shit is that? is it supposed to be clever? funny? witty?...how long did you sit there thinking that up? and now you just want to keep posting cause you think it's cool. give it a rest mate, you are just embarrassing yourself. of course not to the level of the great one. that cock lovin' NAZI needs no further comment.

  • He was a great man, who gave America exactly the boost of self confidence and vision it needed after some truly dark years. Did he make mistakes ? Probably - but if any of you were in a similar position under the public microscope 24/7 could you do any better ? AIDS - hate to mention it but it IS spread by promiscuous behaviour and it IS prevalent among homosexuals. Stating a proven fact doesn't make them a homophobe, it merelt makes them correct. Did Reagan delay in making some sort of acknowledgement about the problem...well, let's see...I work in government and am only too aware that most senior politicians can't say a word without the civil service's say-so. THAT's where the real power lies. In conclusion, rest in peace Mr Reagan. You were what the world needed, when the world needed it. My sincere condolencies to the family.

  • June 6, 2004, 6:23 a.m. CST

    Yes HIV/AIDS is prevalent in the homosexual and IV drug-using co

    by Regicidal_Maniac

    Having seen footage of people afflicted with this awful disease three things are evident. 1. It seems like a pretty shockingly slow and cruel death. 2. Despite the lifestyle choices of the sufferers they still appeared to be humans from Earth. 3. Since the previous policy of years of hardline Christian denials of the existance of this threat has failed to make it magically disappear it might be time for a new strategy. As Bill Hicks said "the day they find a cure for AIDS there'll be fucking in the streets." And isn't that what we all really want? Wouldn't it have been cool to live in the 60s before all this shit?

  • June 6, 2004, 6:36 a.m. CST

    This video says it all....

    by Clubber_Lang1859

    http://download.blingbling.dk/video/tilbagetilusa.wmv

  • June 6, 2004, 6:47 a.m. CST

    RIP, Ronnie. Beside FDR, you were the GREATEST President of the

    by Commando Cody

    Ronald Reagan came into power when America desperately needed a true leader to replace the hollow shell that were the failed Carter years. He came into office via an overwhelming democratic vote of the people, and 4 amazingly better years later for America he was reelected by a winning a staggering 49 out of 50 states, with only Minnesota voting for their hometown boy of Mondale holding out. Under Reagan it truly WAS morning in America again and the U.S. regained its confidence, while Reagan oversaw the fall of communism, a new world order, and staggering economic times. When he left office, he had the HIGHEST approval rating in modern Presidential history...and a recent poll by major news organizations showed that even after all these years, the American people ranked Reagan as one of the TOP FIVE Presidents in history, showing that his approval ratings were every bit intact as was the love of the American people for the man. Ronald Reagan had a gracious heart, a love for all, and a simple vision -- that America truly IS a land where anyone can be anything, so long as you're willing to roll up your sleeves and work towards your dream. In an era of so many false heroes and wannabes, Ronald Reagan was a true inspiration to people not only here, but around the world and will forever be remembered as such. Rest in peace, Mr. President -- you deserve your place in heaven, while back here on Earth you deserve all our respect, from both sides of the political aisle, because you dared to make a difference and did. And those who came to this board tonight, such as those that I named above, simply to spew their trolling venom, you are all truly classless, fucking idiots to put up such posts on the day a man -- a fellow human being -- passed away. So much for any notion of these fucktards having ANY sense of humanity or compassion. But I guess that what you get when you have a free society. Even the most fucking lowlife scum of the world can turn on a computer and eat up bandwidth with their retarded, hatefilled drivel.

  • June 6, 2004, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Fucking shit

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    Greatone is retarted about the whole gay thing, I mean, it's not like people ask to be gay or not be gay when you're a little kid, they just are, and you want to hate on them for that? It's like hating people for being tall. I mean, what the fuck dude. Anyway, I was a very young kid when he was pres so I don't really know about his shit. All I know, is that Bush senior might have negotiated to have the Iran-Contra shit lengthened so they could blame Ford (or whoever) about it and take over. But whatever, he can rest in peace whether he sucked or not; ANYone with Alzheimers deserves that, my great-grandma had it, and that was some fucked shit.

  • June 6, 2004, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Well said Jexxon. Republicans = war, fear and big business. Demo

    by Regicidal_Maniac

    If the leader of America is going to be able to tell the rest of the world what to do, (and I'm specifically referring to his recent jab at Mark Latham Australia's current opposition leader and next Prime Minister *finger's crossed*) then we should all get a vote. Otherwise he can cram it with walnuts. On the other hand I suppose it's too much to expect that the rest of the world be able to participate in fair and democratic elections for the ruler of the Earth when that's a luxury that even Americans can't enjoy. Most unfortunate.

  • June 6, 2004, 7:58 a.m. CST

    If it wasn't for Reagan, there never would have been any Transfo

    by vikingkitty

    There was some kind of FCC regulation in place before The Gipper became president which prohibited cartoons based on toys (this information was in an issue of Toyfare from early 2003, as I recall). Mr. Reagan, being a lover of freedom and believer in the free market, thought this regulation was idiotic. He was right. For this reason alone talkbackers should love the man.

  • June 6, 2004, 8:07 a.m. CST

    A Grace that Comes From Humility

    by vikingkitty

    http://thecatbird.blogspot.com/

  • June 6, 2004, 8:11 a.m. CST

    Reagan Tribute Image

    by vikingkitty

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1148227/posts

  • June 6, 2004, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Reagan Left the White House with the Highest Approval Rating Sin

    by vikingkitty

    http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/editorial/25115.htm

  • June 6, 2004, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Nancy Reagan - Loyal to the End

    by vikingkitty

    http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~20954~2195530,00.html She deserved better than the image the liberal media tried to make her appear for years.

  • June 6, 2004, 8:17 a.m. CST

    Gorbachev proclaims Reagan was a "Great President"

    by vikingkitty

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1125722.htm

  • June 6, 2004, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Ah hahaharrr. Check out the new Harry animation. It's piss funny

    by TheGinger Twit

    Ronald Reagan... wasn't he like the first guy to have done to him what they've now done with Arnold Shwartshamandeggburger? Alzimes my arse, the dude was poisoned by George Bush senior.

  • June 6, 2004, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Dead Megatron

    by NFLRefugee

    Thanks for your high opinion of Americans. Sure, all of us Americans think of foreginers as barbarians. Thanks for your sweeping generalizations. Appreciate it.

  • June 6, 2004, 9:02 a.m. CST

    "imagine if we were at threat from .... people from .... outter

    by TheGinger Twit

    It was something like that, but that's all I remember of Reagan from my childhood.

  • June 6, 2004, 9:15 a.m. CST

    ....

    by SoonerSean

    I personally hope there's a special place in hell reserved for people that, while disagreeing with someone's policies, can wish them pain and agony. Those that have said they wish he had suffered more are truly truly TRULY sick individuals. I don't personally wish you ill-will during your lives and I hope no one you know and love suffers like Reagan and his family did... but surely you'll pay amends at some point for spewing such vile and disgusting statements. Again... disagree with the man and his legacy... but leave out the horrible comments about his health and suffering. (By the way... why is there a warning about stuff like this and being banned when clearly that never happens???)

  • June 6, 2004, 9:32 a.m. CST

    The Gipper and the GreatOne

    by reluctant

    One spent the last several years drooling into a cup, the other was president during the 80's. Ba dum. Cha. Sorry, that was tasteless, but most of these talkbacks prove to be appropriate forums for that crap, no? -------- There is black mark (or 30) on every president's record. Reagan, obviously, is no exception. I don't believe he was the greatest president, or even a great one. But he certainly wasn't a horrible one, or a horrible man for that matter. His death gives many Americans a reason to reflect on his term, what was relevant to our current times, and how we've changed since. I hope President Reagan is resting in peace. ------ Only a total asshat would proclaim himself/herself as the "GreatOne". Is this a reference to something in pop culture? I hope so, because GreatOne's remarks are pretty appalling, and not in a shock-jock, grab-em-by-the-balls way. No, GreatOne is apparently someone who sits atop a moral throne, condemning those different or less fortunate than he or she. "Deviant" behavior? Are you serious? Is this 1952? AIDS may have been spread primarily through homosexual contact at one point, but we are beyond that now. AIDS is spread now, period. "Stopping deviant behavior" is not the answer. What kind of crap is that? Am I to believe we should go to Africa and "stop deviant behavior" there? Just stop it? With an iron fist? Should we "stop" it in our nation? What about education, GreatOne? Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for life. Bash him over the head for "doing it wrong" and you're a fascist. Education on safe sex (of any kind), the dangers of drug abuse, etc, is the way to go. And if that makes me a bleeding-heart liberal, then flame away.

  • SALUTE, Presidente!!!!

  • June 6, 2004, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Sad News

    by sharpywesley

    I dont think we should be getting caught up about Reagans policies or presidency at this time. The fact is that a decent human being has sadly passed away, and anyone who is`nt saddened by that should pretty much be ashamed of himself. Lets just pass on our condolences and spare a thought for his grieving family. The time for criticism has surely now passed.

  • June 6, 2004, 10:02 a.m. CST

    "refusing to back down in the face of international bullying"

    by fitzcarraldo2

    Yah, except that America was the bully. Was then, is now and has been for the last 40 or 50 years.

  • June 6, 2004, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Reagan Did Nothing to Stop AIDS...

    by Guncrazy

    Yep. It's true. AIDS wouldn't be so widespread today, had Reagan implemented steps to contain it. He could have created internment camps where AIDS carriers would be quarantined. He could have made homosexuality a Federal offense and called for the enactment and prosecution of anti-fornication laws. He could have had heroin users rounded up and shot, like China did. Yet he did none of these things. Why? Because the man believed in FREEDOM. And freedom means you get to choose what you want to do, but you have to live with the consequences of your decisions. Face it: The overwhelming majority of AIDS sufferers in the US have it because of lifestyle choices they've made. And people who don't want to beleive that only deny it because they think they're entitled to life without consequences. What's that? Reagan could have poured a billion dollars into AIDS research? Billions of dollars have already been spent to research a cure, using high-tech tools that weren't even dreamed about during Reagan's presidency, and we STILL don't have a cure. Personally, I think tax dollars used to find a cure for AIDS are about as useful being spent to research how to play russian roulette without ever blowing your head off.

  • June 6, 2004, 10:05 a.m. CST

    to lemmdin (and other Reagan-hating ignorant imbeciles)

    by Lil Vibin'Rabbit

    There is NO proof that Reagan "sold" chemical and bio weapons to Iran and Iraq. It's FICTION started by anti-Reagan activists and morons who doesn't like traitors (Reagan was a liberal Democrat before he switched to being a Republican in the 1950s because he saw the deception and lies by the Democratic Party). Almost every country in the world have access to biological and chemical materials for scientific research and development, all Saddam had to do to go to any country and ask for it. As I understand, Germany was the biggest chemical material provider to Iraq (as well as Iran) for two decades - in exchange for barrels of oil, in the violations of the UN sanctions. Iraq was a Soviet client state, nearly 98% of all the arsenal Saddam have acquired were Soviet- and Chinese-made. Even France sold weapons to Saddam before 1990. Saddam's political party, the Ba'ath, is a socialist party that had a lot of support from the Soviet Union prior to Saddam's acsension in the late 1970s. We did not "prop" Saddam up in power, he did this entirely on his own ruthlessness and stranglehold of power. We did supported Saddam in the 80s because of Islamic Iran, so it was a Cold War policy to support the "lesser of two evils", so we hoped to see Saddam crush those American-hating Iranians in the war. Those were the days we used to hear the endless chants of "Death to America!". We had American hostages being held in Beirut under the control of Iran-backed Hezbollah, so we had to sold weapons to Iran to influence them to tell the Hezbollah to release the hostages; there was no other way...I repeat...no other way to release the hostages in Beirut and elsewhere in Syria-occupied Lebanon. To other Reagan-hating ignorant imbeciles that wish Reagan to burn in hell, I have one thing to say: Reagan will always be remembered forever in history and no one will remember you forever! I mean really what have you done anything in life that Reagan did? Y'all a bunch of losers that hide behind computer screens, spouting off hate-filled rants that other liberals and commies lap it up like dungbettles. You losers are beneath me and ain't worth living in this great American republic. God bless Ronald W. Reagan!

  • June 6, 2004, 10:26 a.m. CST

    reagans and bushes

    by rockness

    isnt it pretty common knowledge that there is no love lost between these two families?

  • June 6, 2004, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Why would Reagan care about AIDS. It's a man made virus, probabl

    by The Founder

    Why would Reagan try and contain something that probably came from the US secret bio weapons division? It is a great virus. Can wipe out millions, is spread with sex for the most part, which sex is part of human nature, and then to ensure that it wipes you out totally it passed on to your kids. Perfect killing machine, well maybe not perfect, but quite good.

  • June 6, 2004, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Jaguaro ... Dude, I've been right around this beautiful world, m

    by TheGinger Twit

    Get out and live you fool. Do some research and see how your government is one of the scariest in the entire history of mankind.

  • June 6, 2004, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Don't be Stoopid

    by TheGinger Twit

    I only start when I see no nothing cockheads say something like 'Geez it must suck not being American - Y'know, like because America has internet and McDonalds and Hollywood." Well, yeah I'm forced to point back and say, no it's actually pretty good not being american, because the Internet is everywhere, McDonalds is too. And as for Hollywood... fuck hollywood. Everyone makes movies. Hollywood just likes to pour hundreds of millions of dollars into any old crap to try and win with an opening weekend with something that'll be forgotten in 2 - 5 years. Yeah the government and the people are two different things. But there is this widespread mis-conception amoungst Americans, who never leave their cable TVs unless it's to venture up to the fridge for a 'soda' or down the 'mall' to the local cineplex, that the restof the world is like some third world war zone while America is just the shit, man. It's blatant racism towards me and everyone else first. So yeah, I come here to be a jerkwad loser and put someone in their place. Ban me, Who gives a fuck. I can still come here and read this site... I can even re-register.

  • June 6, 2004, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Stoopid, you're right about the banning

    by vikingkitty

    But it will never happen. Best to give such posters the attention they deserve - none. They are insignificant. Instead, I choose to use this thread to honor a great man. Newspaper front pages from around the world honoring Reagan - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1148502/posts

  • June 6, 2004, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Reagan - the Man who Never Ducked

    by vikingkitty

    He faced problems with dignity. http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1292&storyid=1438466

  • June 6, 2004, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the hatred!

    by War_Tourist

    As a 24 year old republican who lives in his mom's garage, I'd like to say thank you Mr. Reagan for letting me know it's cool to hate. I don't have a lot of friends (except for, you know, e-friends) and I really hate the world because of it. Homosexuals, mexicans, women, they all confuse and scare me and at first I thought it was unhealthy to hate them so much. The bible, which I paste with my baby batter every night before I curl up on my twin fouton, every now and then says it's, like, wrong to hate. You know, between the good stuff where god is killing and playing homicidal pranks on his most faithful believers. But then I heard about this Reagan guy and all the evil things he sanctioned, and I started to wonder. If someone with so much venom and loathing for people who don't share his beliefs can assume the presidency, for two terms even, maybe I'm not the knuckle dragging loser the guy who works at my local porn shop says I am. Now when I see a black man walking with a white girl, I feel totally safe in yelling out "stay with your own kind coltrane!" as I zoom past on 14 local bus. Thanks again Ronald Reagan for showing me the warmth I can achieve with loathing and hatred. Since nobody else is going to touch me, it's the only warmth I've got.

  • June 6, 2004, 11:23 a.m. CST

    As, I said before, Mr. Reagan was a man.

    by Uncapie

    He and men like him, shaped this country, let alone the world. Agree or disagree with his politics as you wish, but remember, he has done more for this nation than some cheese-eating chimp that sits in his parent's basement playing Game Boy like Pavlov's dog. He is a man that made history who will live on forever in books and on film. The insignificant pest that denegrates him can only wish he can as immortal like Mr. Reagan will always be remembered.

  • June 6, 2004, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Reagan - American Dream Come True

    by vikingkitty

    http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-rrneal.html

  • June 6, 2004, 11:26 a.m. CST

    ironic how he died

    by dkliman

    of course 93 is a pretty good age to die at, but his last 10 years with Alzheimer's was just deserts for the guy who cut so much medical research funding for that disease as well as scores of other ones. only after watching her own husband succumb to the fate that reagan condemned millions of others to with his wacko budget cuts do we finally see her beg for more research. when will those short sighted greedy right wingers ever get it?

  • June 6, 2004, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Life Style Disease?

    by Nicky Butane

    Cancer, Heart Disease, Alzhiemers, Alchoholism, even SIDS ALL have a behaviorial component. HIV/AIDS is going to ravage Africa, China, India, and a huge chunk of Russia. It s already happening. Those of you on your moral high horses are going to answer to your Lord. The afflicted and dying are the ones Jesus cared about most. So the next time you want to judge (judge not lest you be judged likewise) ask yourself sincerly how would Jesus care about this person. If Jesus had the attitude some his followers had displayed in here he'd have jumped of the cross and they'd all be going to hell. If you're going to follow the Bible folloaw ALL of it or at least follow the examples of gee I don't know....Jesus.

  • June 6, 2004, 11:28 a.m. CST

    ironic how he died

    by dkliman

    of course 93 is a pretty good age to die at, but his last 10 years with Alzheimer's was just desserts for the guy who cut so much medical research funding for that disease as well as scores of other ones. only after watching her own husband succumb to the fate that reagan condemned millions of others to with his wacko budget cuts do we finally see her beg for more research. when will those short sighted greedy right wingers ever get it?

  • June 6, 2004, 11:58 a.m. CST

    um...yeah

    by ginta1971

    Jack Aubrey - As I said in an earlier post, I do send condolonces to his family, I have nothing bad to say about him personally, it was his policies that drove me nuts. Now why I direct this at you "I will miss the greatest President of the 20th century." I realize we are all entitled to our opinions, but dear lord, have you seriouslly read any history books about Presidents prior to him? Even if you removed all the stupid policies, screwed up economics and so on, there is no way he was the greatest of the 20th century. Look back before Nixon and the accomplishments of those Presidents, those were the truly great Presidents of the 20th Century.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Best Tribute To Reagen is...

    by DreamIsOver

    Airplane! Dr. Rumack -"I was in the war myself- medical core.I was on late duty one night when they brought a in badly wounded pilot from one of the raids, he could barely talk. He looked up at me and "Doc" he said,"the odds were against us up there but we went in anyway and I'm glad, Captain made the right decision.The pilot's name was George Zip.Last thing he said to me "Doc" he said, "sometime when the crew is up against it, the breaks are beating the boys, tell them to give it all they got an win just one for the Zipper. I don't know where I'll be then Doc", he said" but I won't smell too good, that's for sure."

  • June 6, 2004, 12:13 p.m. CST

    It's a shame about Rea...

    by WONKABAR

    the 80s ruled

  • June 6, 2004, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Ok...whats wrong here??

    by jedidluv

    Normally I stay out of political shit storms on here because there more fun to read with everyone standing on there box and try to praise there hate for whatever group there targeting and then suddenly move that hate into a non stop post-a-thon shit storm of bashing the guy talkin them down off there box, I dont even want to get into that shit I just want to say same as everyone else has for years on end, None of this shit matters. A man died, one dies every damn minute,second, blah blah. Point is, When we die every bastard that knows us is gonna sing praise or point out our faults. RR was an actor and president, he had his moments, and his had his bad ones, so fucking what. He's human, Looking back on him now and anyone else in history and pointing out what a soulless piece of shit they were accomplishes what now? you all talk like these people had a fuckin plan writen out on 'how to fuck up the world and piss everyone off before I die' and make little check marks as they go on year by year. It aint gonna change, I dont personally care if someone was a saint or a shithead, all I know is when they die everyone and there brother is gonna dig into them before the worms do. What happens when we die? our families will praise us, or friends will to, but then the other handful will talk about what a waste of life we were how every bad thing to have happened to them is tied into us . Whether its true are not doesnt matter it'll still get said. Just like people bashing the holy hell out of bush, I dont give a shit but when people start going on rants about what a horrible fuckin asshole he is, it suddenly reminds me, yet again, how we keep recycling the same shit. Dont matter who the fucks in office, Republican, Democrat, doesnt matter, there gonna get shit on and verbally fucked over and over. Whats gonna happen when JK gets in office? same shit happened to GW, whats gonna happen after that and the next president gets in? same shit as before. We'll hate them, we'll blame them for any and everything possible blame the other party for electing them and patiently wait for the next poor asshole to be our bitch in office and start slapping them again. Only thing that remains is a world recognized figure died, love him, hate him whatever, he's dead and gone now, good or bad he did more shit then i'll ever do in my lifetime, but regardless I know when I die i'll be loved and verbally bitch slapped over and over again. We all thrive on it we all need a scapegoat and a bitch of the hour. Im not a republican, im not a democrat, not a liberal or conservative. I dont follow or attach myself to any group because in the end it doesnt matter. As good as we want these people to be there just like the rest of us and we still remain a fucked up lil country but hey, least we know who we elected in gov to keep it that way. We want to believe someone will change it but they wont, why stop a cashcow when your doing so well? Let the bitch slapping commence, do whatever, I dont give a fuck.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Irony cannot be delicious as it is merely a linguistic term, no

    by Regicidal_Maniac

    Besides it's not even ironic that there would be non-Americans posting on an American website using American technology and perhaps wearing American clothes. Irony is the discrepency or gap created between the expected result or intended meaning and actual results/meaning. There is no ironic gap to be found in people of other countries being conquered by the dominant ideology of American cultural imperialism it's merely Capitalism at work in the global marketplace, why buy local items when American owned slave-labor produced items are SO much cheaper and perceived to be all the cooler for their brand recognition factor. It's not irony it's economics. My Mac may be American owned although I'm sure that most if not all the components where manufactured in an Asiatic country where workplace agreements and award wages are an alien concept. If you find itironic that foriegners would post anti-American diatribes on a website devoted to Americana then you need to get out more. I don't agree with any of the nasty crap that some people spew forth, from either side of the political fence, but do I see this as an unexpected and unwarranted attack on the proverbial "500 Pound Gorilla"? No, because I understand that many people are sick of the American foriegn policy of looking at the rest of the world through the wrong end of the binoculars. I understand it and I can see their point, but what are you going to do? Butting heads with America is a stupid and suicidal pastime for anyone and any country to engage in, all they have to do is repeat a lie until it becomes a believed truth and invade your sorry arse while they yell at the rest of the world to step in line and look the other way or they're next. It's just the way it is. I say enjoy the wonderful comics and movies and combinations of the word fried in front of various foodstuffs until the country crumbles under the weight of its own hubris. With leaders like GWB and his puppeteers at the helm it might not be such a long wait.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:36 p.m. CST

    DING-DONG THE GIPPER'S DEAD!

    by Bill Maher

    Why don't you fucking Republican scumbags save a few crocodile tears and eulogies for the hundreds of thousands of people Von Reagan helped kill in Central America? Why not a wake for four American nuns Von Reagan's buddies in El Salvador gang-raped, murdered, and hacked apart with machetes? Why not a kind word for the Kurds Saddam gassed in 1988 with Von Reagan's blessing? Why not a tribute to the millions killed by two genocidal terror groups Von Reagan supported in southern Africa (Renamo in Mozambique and Unita in Angola)? Why not moment of silence for those who were exterminated in the Nazi Holocaust, whose memories were pissed on by Von Reagan when he went to Bitburg. Von Reagan laid a wreath at The Tomb of the Unknown Stormtrooper and said that the Nazis buried there were the VICTIMS of the Holocaust, just as surely as those who died in the camps. Mel Gibson's dad must have popped a boner at that one! Von Reagan told Simon Wiesenthal and Israeli PM Yitzhak Shamir that he PERSONALLY filmed the liberation of a Nazi death camp, kept a reel of the film for himself and used it to convince someone who doubted the Nazi Holocaust. Von Reagan, like that other celluloid warmonger John Wayne was a pussy and a coward who spent the whole fucking war in Hollywood, where Hitler didn't have any camps. So it's not surprising Von Reagan and his followers would try to claim credit for the collapse of the Soviet Union, another historical event they had nothing to do with. Ronald Von Reagan should be buried in Bitburg.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Bury him in Bitburg with his fellow Nazis. Check out "Selene Wal

    by Bill Maher

    She's the woman Von Reagan raped when he was head of the Screen Actors Guild.

  • June 6, 2004, 12:59 p.m. CST

    It's amazing...

    by poopyface

    how many posts in this talkback tie in a comment criticizing someone for being "homophobic", to some type of comment critical of Christianity. Why is it that most of you who claim to have a problem with "hate", don't bother to include in that group anything that you might hate? What, a man (or woman's) sexual choices should be protected against criticism, but his religious choices are not only fair game, but should be attacked and exploited at every opportunity if they dont align with yours? I'm not even a Christian, but I'm sick and tired of this hypocrisy. Is it really a clever retort to tell someone something like, "go back to your Jesus, see if he'll help you." Or the ever popular, "If you think Jesus or God believes this, or would have done that, you're going straight to hell." Somehow I'm guessing not everybody has the exact same ideas about Jesus. Here's the bottom line. If you're going to be a flag-waver for tolerance, you're being hypocritical if you dont include people who dont share the same tolerance views as you.

  • June 6, 2004, 1:02 p.m. CST

    The seventh ring of hell just got a new soul

    by Babba-Booey

    some elderly in the 80s would say that. reagan ushered in an era of cutting social security benefits that put an enormous burden on those with a fixed income. Somewhere, my dead grandmother is smiling.

  • June 6, 2004, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Yeah, sure. She's an "actress" what do you expect?

    by Uncapie

    If that "did" happen why didn't she go to the press? Better yet the cops? Where's the police report? How come nobody else knew about this? She had friends and family didn't she? There must have been some sort of paper trail. How come she only had two movie credits to her name and why did she wait 40 years later to come forth? Has drama queen written all over it.

  • June 6, 2004, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Reagan's E.T fantasies.

    by sym69

    No disrespect, but only in America would the so-called democratic process falicitate an ageing hasbeen z-grade 'actor's' rise to the highest office in the western world. Truth is Reagan was a puppet, with the oil and arms industry pulling the strings, feeding him lines like some maniacal studio exec. A man so totally divorced from reality that he was rumoured to whisper to Spielberg during a screening of E.T that "you don't know how close this is to the truth". Good ridance to a bad actor, a bad president and a bad person. Whilst thousands were dying of AID's Reagan was busy indulging in Rambo fantasies and dribbling into his popcorn. Sorry guys, don't make the same mistake and go changing the rules allowing Arnie to fuck your country over. Besides, Bush is doing a job of that anyway. Here in the U.K we're waiting for Reagan's crack hoe Maggie Thatcher to kick the bucket so it's nothing personal guys.

  • June 6, 2004, 2:09 p.m. CST

    may he burn in hell

    by Russman

    Racist, nazi pig.

  • anathema1973 you're so wrong mate... Everyone knows Babs Bush gave better blow jobs, my friend Steve had the honour of being popsicled by both ladies, he knows his stuff.

  • June 6, 2004, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Ronald Regan

    by Humphree Gokart

    It is sad to see his passing but it has to be said that not all was well in the US during his presedency. We in the UK were used as the largest aircraft carrier in the world for all his missiles the chimp was less dangerous for us I think.... boredom is not fatal!!

  • June 6, 2004, 2:47 p.m. CST

    "crushing communism"

    by CuervoJones

    Hey, i

  • June 6, 2004, 2:50 p.m. CST

    harry and co. need to focus on this talkback...

    by ethandarkseid

    I clearly remember back when harry had a review for "gods and monsters" and laid down the law stating that if anyone said anything negative about gays he would ban you. I quote him "you WILL be banned". Funny when you see how the man lived a great life and how he served his country yet he's not granted the same dignity and respect that some old fruitcake(s) are allowed in a talkback about some lame movie that no one saw. Reagan helped russia colapse, he wanted a new day for america and the world. But now we are so silly and lazy to research the facts and so quick to say horrible things about the man. This is a sad testament to this website as a whole and the state of the world in general. In korea they cant use cell phones. In singapore they can't chew bubblegum, in china they surf a "filtered internet" and are'nt allowed certain video games. yet a majority of the people on this talkback have all the above freedoms and more....yet you have nothing nice to say about reagan other than the most horrible thing. I feel sad for this nation for I believe that special interest groups and the minority (populace, NOT race) vote will win and we will be at the mercy of a select few and not be allowed to look forward and build our nation and it's children (reagan made the young generation one of his top priorities for he knew the importance of youth) to grow and shape the nation. Hate america for all its worth, you people LOVE to say we are arrogant and cruel when around the world there are thousands of human rights violations and persecutions for speaking ones mind. Pol pot killed millions of people but reagan did'nt and you speak of reagan like he inavertantly killed thousands of people. You people have no respect and no regard for history or the facts. You yell and scream that he killed this race and that race that he let AIDS run rampant, blah blah blah but you present NO FACTS whatsoever. You are cowards and should be banned from this site for having no respect. LOOK TO THE RIGHT OF THE TALKBACK SCREEN WHEN YOU ENTER TEXT: "Blatant abuse, personal attacks, OFF-TOPIC BS, cross-posting, blatant advertising, and hate speech are all fodder for deletion. In other words, being a jerkwad loser will get you banned." Harry and co. are bastards and cowards for not upholding their rules of talkbacking and they should be ashamed. I really feel sorry for harry and the rest of this team, I really do. I can honestly say this will be the last time I ever come back to this site.

  • June 6, 2004, 2:51 p.m. CST

    4 Alarm Crazy

    by War_Tourist

    Wow..nice post flacid one. You sure think about anal sex a lot. Seems like there should be a word for that... Oh yeah, right. Gay.

  • June 6, 2004, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Margareth Thatcher and Pinochet:

    by CuervoJones

    don

  • June 6, 2004, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Stop the homosexual death machine!

    by reluctant

    And other pamphlets from GreatOne and his army of intolerants. I can't believe GreatOne continues to preach that curbing homosexual contact will stop the spread of AIDS. Has he been in a bomb shelter for the last 20 years? AIDS is spreading most rapidly among straight women. I guess they're all IV drug users. Perhaps we should limit female sexual contact, so that we can save them. One group at a time, eh? Close the bath houses. That'll stop the spread amongst homosexuals, right? Absurd. "Deviant behavior" is not to blame here. Ignorance is. More safe sex education, social services and help for drug abusers... those are more viable solutions. And for the record, prostitution in Africa is more to 'blame' for the rampant spread of HIV/AIDS. STRAIGHT men have sex with prostitutes and then infecting their wives. Who infect their children. But that's a whole new can o' worms.

  • June 6, 2004, 3:09 p.m. CST

    This talkback represents everything I have come to hate about th

    by the flashlight

    Tell ya what, you underachieving geek pissants - when the lot of you actually register to vote and show up at the polls on election day is when I'll take any-fuckin-thing you have to say about politics seriously.

  • June 6, 2004, 3:38 p.m. CST

    A Democrat Remembers Reagan

    by Barron34

    When it comes to politics, I consider myself an American first, a Democrat second. I am politically centrist, and have been a prior member of the Republican Party (albeit the more moderate New York version of that Party, epitomized by Jacob Javits and Nelson Rockefeller). Extreme liberals have called me conservative, and extreme conservatives have called me liberal. The fact is, I oppose extremism in all forms, and support democracy and the rights of individuals as the highest political good. In a more personal sense, I would generally rather err on the side of compassion than on the side of tolerance, and favor more freedom to less. So, today I am in the camp of the Democratic Party, since I see in the Republican Party too much irrationality and too much of a tendency to want to restrict freedom domestically. *****Today, I generally oppose the Republican Party because I believe that it has been hijacked by extreme right-wing religious fanatics at the expense of reason and common sense. The domestic policies of the Republican Party seem to be give-aways to large corporations and the ultra-rich at the expense of the middle and working classes that are the backbone of the nation and the economy. I am also concerned about the lack of respect for the Constitution inherent in the actions of the current administration in the wake of 9/11. Constitutional rights are not fungible; the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and is not subject to suspension just because we are in a war. Such a casual attitude towards our political rights is dangerous. I am also concerned about the seperation of Church and State, as it seem that fanatical Christians want to see their own brand of religion as the only option in America (I am Christian myself, but not fanatical. I beleive that Freedom of Religion is one of the bedrock rights upon which the country was founded, and I am not interested in having someone else's interpretation of religion foisted upon me, via public policies or otherwise. Fanaticism and extremism of any kind are the enemies of Democracy everywhere, whether at home or abroad). *****Current Republican foreign policy seems more messianic than rational to me. I think that unilateralism is a mistake. I think that it is great that Saddam Hussein is gone, but I am concerned that the costs of this war might end up being much higher than the benefits. Now that we re committed to Iraq, though, we must stay until the country is stabilized and democracy is assured, otherwise all of the blood and money invested there will come to nothing. This is a long term and treacehrous project. *****That said, I think that are efforts against terrorism should be heavily focused on defending ourselves domestically (our ports are unsecured and open to attack, in my opinion) and also upon human intelligence and law enforcement overseas. Our current enemies are not a nation unto themselves, but are instead a shadowy network of radical individuals that can hide in whatever nation they are in, be it America, Germany, or Saudi Arabia. We need to target these enemies very specifically. That means human intelligence nets and strong international law enforcement efforts designed to locate and capture small groups of people. I am not sure the Republicans have made this their number one priority. The colossal war in Iraq has diverted our attention and our massive military resources into one foreign nation. We need to be paying more attention to domestic security and a broad global fight against terrorists who operate on a small scale and can melt into the population of whatever nation they are in. 9/11 was not a large-scale military attack launched by an enemy nation. Rather, it was a devastating attack launched by a small cell of radicals, planned and funded by a loose terrorist network. The current Administration, Republican in nature, needs to put more emphasis on tracking terrorists than I see them now doing. That is just my opinion.***** All that said, and politics aside, I believe that Reagan himself was a great leader. The 20th Century will be book-ended by two great presidents, FDR and Reagan, with FDR in the first half, Reagan in the second half. *****I was not so much a supporter of Reagan's domestic policies, but I did believe in his strong stance against Communism, which was the backbone of his foreign policy. *****Today, the Russian people are free of the oppresive totalitarianism of Communism, and the world is free of the spectre of that Communism. History will look kindly upon Reagan for his strong stance against this now-dead ideology.*****In addition to his stand against the Soviet Union, Reagan's other great accomplishment was to restore America's own faith in itself. *****After the turmoil of the Counter-culture of the 60s, political assainations, the Vietnam War, the Watergate Scandal of the 70s, and the malaise of the Ford and Carter era, America was disillusioned and exhausted by internal conflict. Reagan came along and revived America's natural optimism with his own brand of folksy American charm. This was an important accomplishment, and is one major reason why Reagan was known as The Great Communicator.*****Yes, to some, Reagan might have been seen to have been peddling a dangerous fantasy to Americans, but I disagree. Reagan helped to revive the American Dream. Please note that the term is the "American Dream", not the "American Reality". People need to have hopes and dreams, and America has always been a place that was a bastion of dreams and the idea of "the pursuit of happiness". Much of our reality in America is based upon this optimism and it is, in part, our capacity to dream big that has made us so successful (it is no coincidence that Reagan himself was a product of the "dream factory" of America itself: Hollywood). After all the turmoil of the prior decades of the 60s and the 70s, many Americans had nothing but a bitter taste in their mouths. It seemed like we, the people of America, had lost our great capacity for hope and optimism. Say what you like about Reagan; maybe he WAS dangerously out of touch with reality in some ways, but despite such objections, Reagan was an infectious optimist, and he communicated that optismism to the American people and to the world at a critical time in history. It seemed that America had lost its capacity to believe in itself, and Reagan help to cure this national malaise and depression. For this, Reagan will go down in history as a great American leader who helped to revive and restore the country, regardless of what his specific politics were. My condolences go out to his family...

  • June 6, 2004, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Funny Typo

    by Barron34

    I wrote: "I would generally rather err on the side of compassion than on the side of tolerance". Clearly, I meant "rather than on the side of INtolerance." Clearly. Funny typo.

  • June 6, 2004, 3:51 p.m. CST

    You've got that backwards, Stoopid

    by Eugene O

    Criticizing the DEAD has no affect on anything or anyone (any people mourning are DOING JUST THAT; insults will hardly make them mourn MORE). Insults to the dead are vaporous. It should be MORE IMPORTANT to be respectful to LIVING HUMAN BEINGS. That's one of the problems with this world. You see, dead people don't care much about their self-esteem.

  • June 6, 2004, 4:11 p.m. CST

    It's clearly time...

    by dajoflo

    ...for another civil war.

  • June 6, 2004, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Ramboman

    by Russman

    Thanks, but keep your pity for yourself. One day you may wake up and see that you've been lied to, manipulated, deceived, robbed and betrayed by your "heros". Then again, chances are you won't. But hopefully you'll come to recognize the evil that now lurks in your beloved republican party before it kills us all. DOWN WITH BUSH

  • June 6, 2004, 4:20 p.m. CST

    by CosDashit

  • June 6, 2004, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Hey there, frodoies244...

    by fitzcarraldo2

    That's a nice little fascist masturbation-fantasy you've got there. Unfortunately you're talking poo-poo. The Us has nuclear weapons, errm, so do lots of other countries. Few are afraid of your "don't ask, don't tell" soldiers who can't even beat a bunch of illiterate guerillas with AK47s in Fallujah or Najaf. Under your precious Reagan the US trained torturers and murderers at the School of the Americas to stifle democracy in Latin America. He also armed Saddam Hussein and the Taliban/Mujihadin. The man was an imbecile and a bastard who shopped his fellow actors to McCarthy and destroyed their careers. I hope he's nice and toasty warm in hell right now.

  • June 6, 2004, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Osama and Bin Laden

    by CosDashit

    Let's not forget, that all the spending that resulted in the fall of the Soviet Union included money and arms being given to Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden. Is it any coincidence that these are the same men we've had to fight today?

  • June 6, 2004, 4:31 p.m. CST

    anathema1973 and his manifesto are way off...

    by SithScorp

    Nice group of flashy statements that are taken completely out of historical context... Say what you will about the man, but he did not believe in doing what many of you are doing here on this talkback. He did not believe in using every irrational and inflammatory statement in the human vocabulary in order to smash the other person's opinion when it differed from his. In fact, he enjoyed when others had a differeing opinon than his. It is our right as citizens of this country to NOT see everything eye to eye. It is our right to rationally and peacefully debate in a forum of truth and honesty. Instead, he would respond with a quick line or two that was used to disarm any malice with humor. How many times was he caught on recorded media slandering others with untrue facts and statements? How many times have some of our politicians today have? Perhaps that is why many liberals detest him. He would not lower himself to using inflammatory, irrational, intentionally malicious statements to prove his point. He made a plan to solve problems, not just come up with a warm and fuzzy sounding end result with no plan of how to achieve it. He did not make outrageous statements on how to do something different with no forethought of how to get it done, just to get people to like what he said. He also made the decisions that some people disagreed with, because he had thought them through and received counsel on the affects of his actions and policies. If you do not agree with his policies and decisions, that is fine. We benefit today from his work as President whether you choose to believe it or not. Be a sheep to the "revolution" of the liberals which was started during the 60's, or make up your own mind by looking at history without it being skewed by irrational banter. Our country is still here because of this man, and in twenty years we will be saying something similar about what Bush is doing now.

  • June 6, 2004, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Stoopid and EthanDarkseid are right. The hell with this site.

    by vikingkitty

  • June 6, 2004, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Good, bad, whatever about Ronald Reagan, but I grew up in the ei

    by Big Bad Clone

  • June 6, 2004, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Oh God but that is one of the greatest fairy tales of modern his

    by WeedyMcSmokey

    Reagan did not defeat communism. In fact - his administration engaged directly and militarily in numerous theaters under that mandate and calling them successful would be a bit of a stretch. Good Christ it is absolutely infuriating to read these talkbacks now. Fucking myopic American bullshit. It's fucking sickening. Love your president, fine - but don't start attributing him successes that not only don't exist, but in actuality are completely the opposite. Look at the SPREAD of Marxism in the 80s. And the downfall of the Soviet Union had nothing to do with SDI or Reagan's unprecendented military build-up. Jesus Christ this is basic university course material. Fucking basic. Maybe everywhere but the US, I'm not sure.

  • June 6, 2004, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Reagan and E.T fantasies II

    by sym69

    Nice try my friend, you're right the world is a big place and conspiracy is ripe, but E.T's? All that shit is disinformation to throw dumb ass's like you of the scent. There's a lot of bad shit going down my friend, but believe you me, E.T's aint one of them, it's all smoke screen that feeds into mass consciousness sucka! Leave off the X-Files and use your brain!

  • June 6, 2004, 5:56 p.m. CST

    good riddance, stoopid!

    by 3MTA3

    One less hypocrite blowhard. I hope that you stick to your guns and never return again. It's a better site without you.

  • June 6, 2004, 5:57 p.m. CST

    and the same goes for vikingkitty...

    by 3MTA3

    you ignorant republican fuck.

  • June 6, 2004, 6:02 p.m. CST

    The "Cold War" wasn't really a war...

    by Voice O. Reason

    ...but a figure of speech. There were no actual battles, except the ones that were part of other REAL armed conflicts (i.e. Vietnam and Korea). With all due respect to Reagan, but the only reason we "won" is because we were able to go further into debt than the Soviets. Reagan was a nice man, but not a great president.

  • June 6, 2004, 6:07 p.m. CST

    ethandarkseid...

    by 3MTA3

    Hopefully you never come back either. Yay! It's the exodus of the republican assholes!!

  • June 6, 2004, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Fuck it all

    by originalskoobx

    Left or Right, he was a great leader. Great leaders make bad decisions. They make good ones too. We should be thankful for the collapse of the Red Curtain. We all have the freedom to say that fucking someone in the ass is deviant behavior. Or that Reagan died drooling over his bowl of liquified Mac and Cheese. Or that anyone who does not agree with me is a heartless goon that should die and burn in eternal fire. Or that I will never visit this site again. Its because of this man that we can do all of this, so fuck off morons (myself included). Name me one President since him that has done a better job. Hell, name me one canidate that could have done better. He was a great man, who did the best he could with the job he was given Fuckheads.

  • June 6, 2004, 6:29 p.m. CST

    we need more political threads

    by tHEmOOG

    they make for a good read

  • June 6, 2004, 6:41 p.m. CST

    A moment of silence...................................... and no

    by Supermonkey321

    ...To any of you simple minded f*cktards who are bad mouthing Reagan on a talkback for an article that is in rememberance of him: Yes you deserve to die, and I hope you burn in hell! That man was one of the greatest Presidents that this nation has ever, or will ever, have in office! If you think otherwise, you are at best a retard, and at worst a fuckin communist. Show some fuckin respect for the man who won the Cold War.

  • June 6, 2004, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Funny how AIDS/HIV is ravaging Africa, China, and India, all cou

    by The Founder

    Where this epidemic is striking most gives me reason to believe that AIDS is not some natural disease, but a man made one. How any human can be so evil as to unleash something like this on innocent people is beyond me, but considering the huge populations of non whites in large countries, and Russia, who was America's greatest enemy. It to convient. Call me a conspricy theroist, but it's more to AIDs then meets the eye, and all them people afflecked with this virus is going to die. If their is a god the US will pay for it's evil. Many don't think America is evil, but we are looked upon as the great Satan of the world. The sad thinbg is it's the rich and powerful, who also run the Governemt are the ones responsible, while the working class are lumped in the same catagory, when in reality most Americans just want a stable job, and able to feed their family.

  • June 6, 2004, 6:49 p.m. CST

    I don't get it

    by Torgol

    So your saying that because he would fight the commies it was perfectly okay to prop up Sadam, the guy the republicans keep on talking about how he was "evil". Well Hitler didn't fought commies too so by your logic it would be fine to give the Nazis weapons. I'd love to climb into a so called "conservatives"(why do they go by that when whenever we have them running the whole damn country and we are spending money more than ever) mind and see what it is like I'm sure there would be lots of empty space.

  • June 6, 2004, 6:51 p.m. CST

    I don't get it 2: Electric Boogaloo

    by Torgol

    damn i can't type, Nazi's fought commies

  • June 6, 2004, 6:53 p.m. CST

    No, no, no. The internet is blameless.

    by FluffyUnbound

    I used to think that, too. Or thoughts like it. "This is what I hate about the internet..." No. Wrong. Utterly wrong. This is what you hate about HUMAN BEINGS. This is what Man is. The internet merely makes it possible for you to see it. You can drive in your car on the highway, passing thousands of people going the other way, maybe listening to the radio, maybe the sun is out and there is a smell of fresh-cut grass and you think, "The world isn't such a bad place. People aren't so bad." No. Wrong. That is all an error, brought about by the fact that you do not have access to the thoughts of everyone around you. If you could SPEAK to each of those thousands that went past you, and get their opinions, hear about their feelings, etc., you would hate THEM, too. Because they are despicable and deserve hatred. All the internet is doing is allowing you to see what people are actually like. The only way to love mankind, or even tolerate him, is to do so in ignorance. Note that most rhetoric about the dignity of man dates from a time period when most communication took place either face-to-face among closely-knit family, clan, or village groups, or took place in ritualized social contexts where the threat of violence kept people in line, or took place in writing, between members of a limited pool of literate people who shared a similar outlook. It was easy in those contexts to not realize exactly how contemptible most people are. Times have changed, though, and there is nowhere to hide from the knowledge now. It is hard to read people's political comments on the internet, which reveal their true selves, and the true selves of the overwhelming majority of the population, and not come to the conclusion that anything which can restore silence is not an acceptable option.

  • June 6, 2004, 6:53 p.m. CST

    by Alexander Hay

    There is something immoral in gloating at a man suffering from Alzheimer's because 'he deserves it'. But there's something also immoral in gloating at people with HIV/Aids because 'they deserve it'. Shame on the whole bloody lot of you.

  • June 6, 2004, 6:58 p.m. CST

    If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything

    by The Real McCoy

    It's perfectly fine to trashtalk republicans and democrats on political talkbacks but this article was dedicated to the memory of an actor and former president. For some to say "good riddance" and "glad he's fucking dead" is in poor taste. Please, show some respect and take it somewhere else. If you didn't like Reagan, this really isn't the forum to address your dislikes.

  • But still he saved Our Great America from the Falkland Islands! Wooh... what an hero

  • June 6, 2004, 7:03 p.m. CST

    I'm with the guys that say they are never coming back to this si

    by Supermonkey321

    This site is becoming so political because of Harry's constant leftist ranting, the liberal propaganda (like with The Day After Tomorrow review), and the talkbacks turning into heated arguments by a bunch of morons. It's fucking rediculous! Not only because I come to this site to read MOVIE and TV news, not to discuss the state of the f*cking union, but also due to the huge schism in this country right now that keeps setting off these debates between the left and right. The guy who said something about it being about time for another civil war wasn't far from the truth. It's seriously reaching the boiling point with bipartison politics. The two parties are at each other's throats and the liberals are running rampant, screaming bloody f*ckin murder. I can't take this chaos anymore... that's it, I am never even gonna think about reading another talk back or coming anywhere near any article written by Harry ever again. If that doesn't work, I am gonna find a new Movie and TV news site... this one has been going completely down hill lately anyway. Supermonkey definitely out!

  • June 6, 2004, 7:16 p.m. CST

    After my last post I really should not allow myself to bother to

    by FluffyUnbound

    The United States was not involved in the Falkland Islands dispute. That one was Argentina attacking Great Britain, and geting hosed for their trouble. How in the flying unbelievable fuck could you be FUCKING STUPID ENOUGH to think that was a US war? I mean, and still be able to feed yourself? DO YOU WEAR A FUCKING HELMET? This is not quibbling over the interpretation of events, like who won or didn't win the Cold War. This is flat out stupidity of an almost unimaginable order. Hey, why don't you entertain us some more. Tell us about the US atrocities during the Boer War. Or maybe about how the Japanese attacked Fort Sumpter. You have a career ahead of you on the Jay Walk all-stars, so don't blow it.

  • June 6, 2004, 7:18 p.m. CST

    And before anyone breaks a gut to point it out -

    by FluffyUnbound

    Yes, I misspelled Ft. Sumter. I was traumatized when the Navaho blew up the World Trade Center and I can't spell properly anymore.

  • June 6, 2004, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Can the conspiracy theory guys explain one thing to me?

    by FluffyUnbound

    If AIDS is man-made and SARS is man-made and there is a plot afoot to wipe out all enemies of wealthy white Americans, WHAT THE FUCK IS TAKING SO LONG? Can you place a phone call to these guys and get them to FUCKING HUSTLE IT UP A BIT? Nothing peeves me more than a nefarious group of conspirators lazing things along, acting like they have all fucking day. Set the alarm clock to an hour earlier, boys. Or put on another shift.

  • June 6, 2004, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Optimism and Class

    by Dagan

    Even looking at the popular culture legacy of the eighties - the bright, bursting colors, gaudy glamour, sugary bubble-gum music and cheerful, wonderfully naive films - it is plain to see the sense of outrageous optimism that America had during that decade. It stands out in stark contrast to the seventies and nineties, or to any decade, for that matter. Most people give Reagan the credit for that unbelievable sense of hope and optimism that we had during that time. I think most people are right. Reagan gave us an unprecendented economic boom, without benefit of a fake internet bubble economy; he had the most direct hand in the defeat of the worldwide Communist threat, an action which literally freed hundreds of millions around the globe; and he likewise helped liberate America itself from a creeping socialism, taking tax rates from the insanity of 70% ranges down to current levels and Communicating the ideas of smaller government to the masses in a way that still resonates to this day. He was the most giant figure in the most momentous century of recorded human history, and I doubt I will ever see a better man step into the office of the Presidency in my lifetime. Rest In Peace, Mr. Reagan. You made the world a much better place than it was when you got here. And may your family find peace in this time and all the time hereafter, until they meet you again.

  • June 6, 2004, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Kerry for Prez...

    by dajoflo

  • June 6, 2004, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Robofag rides the short bus.

    by Uncapie

    The U.S. vs. the Faulklands. That made me laugh! Bet you think the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor as well. Should have paid more attention in class instead of smoking that yay. Get a clue, zipperhead; drop the video games and read a book.

  • June 6, 2004, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Kerry for Prez...

    by dajoflo

    ...Mcain for Veep. Let's bring 'em all together, so we can get some sleep. RIP Reagan.

  • June 6, 2004, 8:28 p.m. CST

    quite possibly the worst president of the 20th century...

    by beamish13

    Reagan was a dumb shit who brought the world closer to nuclear annihilation than anyone else in history. He was a stupid fuck that had no business running the world's most powerful country. If there is a hell, I hope he's roasting there as I type

  • June 6, 2004, 8:40 p.m. CST

    How could Rap Master Ronnie have ended Communinsm when Communism

    by beamish13

    The Socialist govern't of the former Soviet Union collapsed because of economic reasons, not because the star of "Bed Time for Bonzo" told them to "knock it off". Nicaragua, Iraq, and Afghanistan remain in better shape today than ever before because of Ronnie. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

  • June 6, 2004, 8:42 p.m. CST

    RE: Dick Hertz

    by cindy24

    It's amazing what big talkers everyone can be now that the man is dead from a long, debilitating disease. We aren't just talking about a great President who helped bring down the Berlin Wall and end the Cold War, this is a human being, someone's father/brother/husband/friend. Try to be a decent person and show some respect. Also, thanks for proving that liberals are hypocrites: "VonReagan" is so terrible for allowing Saddam to gas the Kurds and Bush is Satan for taking Saddam out - can't have it both ways, Chief. If you're going to turn a simple memorial into a partisan rant, at least don't talk out of both sides of your mouth.

  • June 6, 2004, 8:45 p.m. CST

    A human being has died.

    by Daveros

    I've only ever lurked on these TB's before. As a result, I'm well aware that lots of TBers are assholes and many so-called "debates" that break out here are about as pointless and charming as Ashton Kutcher. Even so, I'm prompted to post now because many people have disgusted me in this instance. A man that has had an enormous influence (for good or bad) in ALL of our lives has just died. Anyone that feels the need to berate someone (Reagan himself or any other TBer here) for their personal politics at a time like this is insensitive to the extreme. And highly immature. Seriously, any "liberals" who've posted that they're glad that Reagan's dead.... feel ashamed of yourselves now, please. I'm a liberal myself and I don't want you representing me. Any right-wingers who've berated the ignorant liberal fools for posting such remarks about RR - feel ashamed too. You're pouring fuel on the fire and you need to shut up. I'm not having a go at ANYONE about their politics. Only about their disrespectful actions. To immediately engage in a heated, bile-fuelled debate in response to the death of a fellow human being is offensive. Stop it. Everyone has opinions about this kind of thing, but you need to learn respect and hold off on trying to be so confrontational. Express your opinions in a few days if you still feel the need to do so, but don't be so knee-jerk in this particular case. A man has just died. Think before you speak.

  • June 6, 2004, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Regan was not a human being.

    by Russman

    He was a monster. A piece of evil wrapped in the skin of a human being. Hey, heh, ho, ho, George Bush has got to go.

  • June 6, 2004, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Save your tears folks...

    by Russman

    You want to talk about a good man, look at Jimmy Carter. Lost the election and then spent the rest of his life building homes for poor people and doing what he can to negotiate peace. That's what I call a great American. Greater than me, greater than Ronnie, greater than some pedophile priest and greater than most (if not all) of you. And if your "Great Hero" Ronnie hadn't of removed the tax breaks that Carter put in place to explore alternate energy sources chance are we wouldn't be that involded in the middle east up to our neck in shit. Fuck Ronald Regan, fuck the republican party and fuck the American Taliban Jesus freaks that have their hand up Smirky the Monkey's ass.

  • June 6, 2004, 9:21 p.m. CST

    oh for the love of pete....

    by DrLektor

    My point, and I had a point, (okay, the babs bush thing was dumb I admit) ...titlewise I drew attention to the fact that Reagan was an actor. This is a Movie and TV site, was he a good actor? in my opinion no, then why the heck would anybody want to bring up the guys political career here other than to cause friction? Screw politics for the moment people and just recognise that an actor has died, I don't give a monkeys (no pun intended) if you're a demeekrat or a 'publican, you're all American no doubt so quit your bad mouthing of something you CAN'T CHANGE ANYMORE and just get along, you want to argue about something 'important' like the state of the US today and how some poor guy got you there, then go bother the talkbackers on a political site, protest in the streets and wait till your of voting age. It's amazing how you can alienate everyone from homosexuals to concerned parents to regular joes just by shooting your mouth off, and about Reagan no less. I'm not giving up on this site, but I am giving up on talkbacks that honestly have no place here. Call me a commie, call me a fag, call me whatever the hell you like, I'm here for the movies news.

  • June 6, 2004, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Russman, does the insane asylum know you're out of your cage and

    by Triumph poops!

    I figure that has to be the only reason a truly pathetic and moronic loser like you even manages to get online to post. I'd say the only thing actually wrapped in evil is not Reagan, but your own brain wrapped within your skull -- but clearly you don't even have one. Anyone reading your silly statements long ago realized that your deeply intellectual thought process is akin to a BB pellet rolling around an empty tuna can.

  • June 6, 2004, 9:49 p.m. CST

    I'll only say this

    by midwat

    "Say nothing but good about the dead."

  • June 6, 2004, 9:54 p.m. CST

    you're all wrong...

    by orgdemir

    I've read all of these posts and, you know, the arguments and I've decided: you're all wrong. Considering Reagan was niether Jesus nor Satan... you're all mostly wrong. Except for that guy who likes Dunstan Checks In. That ape is a laugh riot. I mean, if all of you would just relax and pop in a copy of Dunstan... love man, nothin' but.

  • June 6, 2004, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Russman, I agree on Carter...

    by Roger Thornhill

    He was truly ahead of his time with his domestic policies. Truly a criminally underrated president. He should run again. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

  • June 6, 2004, 10:04 p.m. CST

    GreatOne's a Nazi

    by Daveros

    Having posted that everyone should shut up and show respect, I'm about to let the Hypocrite button pop up on my neck and lay into a particularly loathsome individual. If GreatOne doesn't want to be called a Nazi then it should stop talking like one, I stand by my above post about not letting politics enter into an argument spawned by the death of a human being. But when it comes to GreatOne's opinions, I don't care, I need to say something. This is not about politics, it's not about Reagan, it's about ignorance. Anyway, GreatOne's wrong. Lambasting people for being ignorant while being seemingly unaware of even the basic facts about HIV that I (having grown up in a country that DID have some governmentallly-inspired education on the subject) have known for years and years. It's pathetic, and I can't help but wonder why the creature feels the need to open it's mouth. Initially, when little was known about HIV, it was primarily confined to the homosexual community and drug users. This is true, but the myth that it remains confined to these subsets of society was debunked many, many years ago. It's only neanderthals such as GreatOne, who resist education, that still believe such nonsense. For most of it's history, HIV has also affected good, old-fashioned hetero people like GreatOne and myself. I'm straight, and I've never injected drugs in my life. I don't have HIV either, but that doesn't mean that I want to let idiots like GreatOne get away with public displays of stupidity. If the above facts are true, that it mostly affected homosexuals and drug users in the early days, how did it come to cross over and affect good, normal people like GreatOne? Probably a gay guy raped a woman. Those Evil Commie Gays do that all the time... At the very least, GreatOne seems to be aware that HIV is spread in Africa through heterosexual intercourse. That shows that it can absorb at least one or two facts. Congratulations! But then it attributes most of these cases to rape, an act that it presumably find as abhorrent as drugs and gays. No way could something innocent like normal, straight sex cause such problems, right? The fact of the matter is, HIV is still spreading ALL OVER THE WORLD and it's not spreading because of gays and addicts any more. They've already been educated, unlike dumb fucks like GreatOne. Some of us "normal" people have gotten that education, but that's because we're not stupid. That education has already prevented many straight people, gay people, drug users, Africans and non-Africans from contracting the disease. But it could save many more. Specifically, it is needed to help many in Africa right now, and personally, I think it is needed to help GreatOne. Heterosexual sex spreads HIV in America. Because of shallow-minded shits like GreatOne, who would suggest that two-year-olds in Africa deserve to die because of their mother's "behaviour" (regardless of whether of not she was raped). Is GreatOne HIV-negative? Does it even know? I doubt it does, but it should find out. Of course, by asking that question, I'm assuming that during GreatOne's lifetime it has either (1) had a gay experience (2) been raped, (3) injected drugs, (4) had a blood transfusion or (5) had sex. If any of the above HAS happened to GreatOne then I suggest it gets a test. Judging by it's posts here, I assume it's safe to say it's clean. But you never know.... And THAT'S the point. You never know. But one thing I can clearly say is that a lot of what GreatOne THINKS it knows is wrong. Just so everyone knows, I do feel a bit bad about having a go at GreatOne, given that I just posted about showing respect to someone that just died. But again, this post is not about Reagan or politics, it's about GreatOne's extreme lack of education....

  • June 6, 2004, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Reagen was OK!

    by LeFlambeur

    Look, Reagen was an ok president. He doesn't deserve to be treated like a saint or have his face on mount Rushmore, but he was a decent president in an age of lousy presidents. Now I can understand the dissent about how he was, but lets not piss on his grave. Have some respect for the dead.

  • June 6, 2004, 10:23 p.m. CST

    himmler is a nazi.

    by orgdemir

  • June 6, 2004, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Darth Jeremy: liberal loser. And by the way, we on the Right pl

    by Triumph poops!

    Simply for 3 reasons. First, the place is called AINT IT COOL NEWS and we'd be here anyway out of a love for geek movie news, so that remains unchanged. But secondly, certainly in an election year, we plan to stick around to continually teach and bitch slap you intellectual asswipes on the Left the basic truths of how things should be properly run in this country and the world over. Since you're all mental midgets that are too fucking stupid to figure things out for yourselves. And third, we'll always be here if for no other reason than to piss you off -- which gives us total glee. Now, go back to coloring in your book and try to keep your crayolas within the lines this time. And wipe the drool from your chin so you look less like a mental patient we all know you are...

  • June 6, 2004, 11:47 p.m. CST

    To Fluffyunbound and Uncappie...

    by Robofag

    Har hAr HAr you stupid right-wing brainfucks are so damn funny when it comes to interpreting posts from *intelligent people* (and that category includes me, YEEES!) I did stop reading those elementary school history books that you guys read every day... `cause you know I grew up and got to college and then university, where I learned many things that you sheeple can`t even imagine. Actually if you knew how to use the right part of your brain a little more, and paying attention of what I wrote, I was merely IMPERSONATING, in a sarcastic way (you know.. sarcasm?), the typical right-wing attitude of sacrifying historical facts from their memory (if they have one) to believe that their Republican fascist President was the greatest, most brillant and warmhearted ever. In fact, every Republican US President is the greatest ever to the little shiny blues eyes of the neocon undereducated sheeps. No, indeed, there has never been any war between the Falkland Islands and the US. The fact that you took that seriously onyl proves more how your brain`s on binary mode... but hey, that`s not it, there`s mooore for you here: You want me to tell you about a REAL move from Reagan that fashioned his whole foreign policy??? Furnishing the Iranian tyranny with different kinds of WMD to use them in their war against Iraq, while, at the same time, giving the same kind of dirty chem weapons to Saddam so he could use them to (surprise surprise!) bomb Iran... and a few thousands of Kurds at the same time! Actually it began with the liberation of US officers from the Iranian regime, that was compensated with an amount of missiles, and then the DOD found it politically and financially profitable, so they exploited a new secret market, which leaded to the disklosure and prosecution of Oliver North, who was obviously There`s also that whole story about the training and financing of a militia whose purpose was to perpetrate horrible military operations among civilians in central america, which were consisting of wiping out entire villages and giving military support to local dictators. That militia was called the "Contras". That of course, was one of the major tactics in the politics of "containment" orchestrated by the US administration since... well since as far as the '20s when the Republicans began to freak out with the Bolcheviks building their socialist state in Russia. In a way, yes, Reagan was a fine president, but only from the hegemonic and ultra-conservative reason of state that the Reps are so much know for. From a democratic and humanitarian perspective, he`s a goddamn BUTCHER! An assassin, war criminal, who got his fair share of the cake destroying thousands of lives both domestically and worldwide with corporate and military-friendly policies. Fuck Reagan, may every homeless guy in USA has his chance to spit on his grave for chrissake!!!

  • June 7, 2004, 1:19 a.m. CST

    Triumph Poops, one day you'll wake up...

    by Russman

    hopefully you won't be living in a world of martial law when you do.

  • June 7, 2004, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Third world prostitutes engage in anal sex!?!?!!?

    by originalskoobx

    Well count me in, I'm going to Haiti!!!!!! Thank you Ronnie, for giving me the freedom to fuck third world prostitutes up the ass. More bang for my buck!!!! Fuck all lefters. Fuck all righters. He was a good man, who did the best he could. Right or wrong, good or bad, he did what he had to do. Didn't he create the internet? Or was it the electric lube free pocket pussy? Really, the political debates here are nearly laughable, except they are so fucking sad. Honor the man. He was the President of the greatest nation on Earth (I don't mean to piss off the foreign legion), as well as a somewhat successful actor (50+ films is not too shoddy). So here's to ya Ronnie. Rest in peace.

  • June 7, 2004, 2:14 a.m. CST

    LMAO. Russman, I love leftist alarmists like you who warn about

    by Triumph poops!

    It reminds me how truly knee-jerk and out of control emotionally the Left has become. Not to mention intellectually bankrupt. Then again, just look at your shining candidate John Kerry who himself is once again flip flopping by saying NOW he's against the Patriot Act (ala you and your fears of martial law) even though he DID vote for it. I swear, I can't wait till the Presidential debates where more that 75% of the time is going to be spent with Kerry ranting like a buffoon and trying to lie through his teeth to the American public about what he stands for TODAY...at which point Bush will simply look over at him, calmly point out yet another flip flop by stating what Kerry DID vote for in Congress, and then add the catch phrase we all now know too well "You know, I actually voted against that. Well, that is after I voted for it." People like you making your sad comments like "I hope you wake up before it's a land of martial law" are exactly the type of lunatics who are SO out of touch with reality that it's no longer frightening, you're all just laughable. You're the nutbags who cheered on Al Gore when he had his recent public emotional and nervous breakdown giving a speech -- which by the way, once and for all confirmed that had Gore been in charge on 9/11 along with the Democrats, this country would have been seriously fucked and most likely would have been attacked AGAIN right after. And we'd still be digging ourselves out. "Waking up to martial law." LMAO. Russman, you need to get a mic and get up at comedy night. You're too funny!

  • June 7, 2004, 3:08 a.m. CST

    Ah, Robofag, well, there you go again...

    by Uncapie

    The young man with a shovel. Well, why don't you try shoveling your shit someplace else? You have a brain smaller than a pygmy's gene and a mouth as large as the Grand Canyon. Beep! Beep! Beep! Beep! Your short bus awaits you, Sir.

  • June 7, 2004, 3:39 a.m. CST

    by Rain_Dog

    I don't think Bush will be doing anything 'calmly' during the Presidential debates - largely because I don't believe he'll engage in any unscripted debates at all. He's about as capable of thinking on his feet as a toaster.

  • June 7, 2004, 4:11 a.m. CST

    Triumph... just keep laughing...

    by Russman

    like all the other ignorant Americans... yes, yes, laugh. Keep laughing. Eat a hamburger and some apple pie, go shopping, send some money. Everything is just fine, just go shopping. Don't mind the fires burning in Rome, just go about your business and keep shopping. That's a good drone, yes... very good drone.

  • June 7, 2004, 4:44 a.m. CST

    You know, Russman, for all the bullshit you toss at Triumph...

    by Big Dumb Ape

    ...about martial law or people being good drones, I've yet to see you actually EXPLAIN how the fuck you see ANY semblence of a martial law/military state being in place or coming into existence. You know the difference between my life today and before the Patriot Act was enacted? Zip. Nada. Then again, unlike some of you worthless dolts, I'm not out breaking any major (or even minor) laws. So on the flip side, I hope the powers that through things like the Patriot Act DO nail your asses if you're up to something. But that notion of PROPER police enforcement in action, where the hell do you get your notion from, Russman? And your last comment that the US is burning like Rome only proves Triumph's point that psychologically you ARE off the deep end and total whack job alarmist. See your shrink. This time have them UP your meds.

  • June 7, 2004, 5:35 a.m. CST

    to 3MTA3

    by ethandarkseid

    go fuck yourself you dickless loser.

  • June 7, 2004, 6:52 a.m. CST

    Also,

    by Rain_Dog

    Despite my distaste for the man's policies (not to mention his movies), my condolences are with the Reagan family. Dissect and criticise his policies all you want, but let's lay off the personal attacks, huh? All this 'burn in hell Reagan' shit: it's just as fucking ignorant coming from the liberal contingent as from GreatOne. I realise my previous post was a personal attack on Bush, but he's still kickin' so he's fair game.

  • June 7, 2004, 11:11 p.m. CST

    An innocent question...

    by SithScorp

    How many of you people that are hating on RR were even alive and aware of what was going before he took office? I remember the late 70's and it was not pretty. I remember seeing and being aware of the changes that occurred from 1980-1992. They were good times that set up the awesome 90's. Reagan was a huge part of setting that up. Give him credit for that at least. God Bless and Rest Your Soul President Reagan.

  • June 8, 2004, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Fuck that death squad supporting asshole

    by horseloverfat723

    Somebody should bring signs to his funeral with pictures of muammar ghaddafi's dead infant son, and all the people killed by El Salvadoran death squads funded by Mr. Reagan. Shame on AICN for honoring him..

  • June 8, 2004, 3:49 a.m. CST

    "DING-DONG! The Gipper is dead!"

    by FD Resurrected

    Thanks to Reagan administration's pioneering policy in Reaganomics and cloak-and-dagger backstabbing, America is currently well over 7 trillion dollars in debt, making the children of current and future generations the virtual slaveworkers. Thomas Jefferson warned against accumulating national debt to the point of collapse in the Republic. Not to mention the wet-dream fantasy of S.D.I. and corruption - right-wing terrorism in South America and abroad, S&L deregulation and administration runners dorking around until they got caught with their hands in cookie jars. We have Oliver Stone to thank for Salvador and Wall Street. Let the New World Order continue unabated...and, as dear Mr. President assured America and the world with upbeat fervor and jovial outlook, the best is yet to come!

  • June 8, 2004, 11:27 a.m. CST

    I always assumed Reagan was lying...

    by numberface

    ...during the Iran/Contra hearings when he kept repeating "I don't remember that..." "I have no recollection of that..." "I don't recall..." Turns out, he wasn't lying. Like some posters said, he did both good and bad for the country. But he did very little to stem the AIDS epidemic. Some fuckwit on here said AIDS was a lifestyle disease, but cancer was not. What about Lung cancer you get from smoking? Or skin cancer from too much tanning? A disease is a disease. It's the government's responsibility to act in the most effective way possible. Reagan didn't. He didn't because the majority of people who had AIDS in the beginning were part of the gay community. Reagan's reaction to the AIDS epidemic reminded me of the line from Orwell, loosely transcribed here to make a point: "All Americas are equal, but some Americans are MORE equal than others." Still, though, I admire how strongly he pressed the Soviet Union. Without Reagan, there'd still be a cold war, and you gotta hand it to him, he did it with words, not with War. "Mr, Gorbachev, tear down this wall!!!" Though his treatment of the Air Traffic Controllers was wierd for a man who started his political careeer as the president of a labor organization; SAG. He was, like all Presidents, good and horrible at the same time. May he rest in piece, and be forced to apologize to the souls of countless Central American's who died at the hands of US-funded death squads.

  • June 8, 2004, 11:30 a.m. CST

    By the way...

    by numberface

    There's no such thing as Al-Qaeda.

  • June 8, 2004, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Heil GreatOne!

    by Daveros

    I don't deny any of your facts. But I'm amazed that you seem fine with the fact that 8% of AIDS victims in America are "normal" people like you? Are they still engaging in "deviant" behaviour in order to contract HIV in the first place? As I've seen earlier in your so-called "argument" on this, you seem to polarise the possible solutions to the problem. On one hand we can correct all "deviants", on the other we can spend money on trying to find a cure. You don't seem to understand that myself and others want BOTH to happen. Education on the subject is VERY important. Everyone should practise safe sex, and IV drug use is a no-no. NO ARGUMENT HERE. OK??? But what you seem to be suggesting is "Homosexuals should be stopped. Anyone suffering from this disease deserves it". What I'm trying to drill into your inpenetrable skull is that THIS IS NOT TRUE. People still exist in the homosexual community that need educating. Again, no dispute here. But tar all homosexuals with the same brush. It is perfectly possible to be an active homosexual without risking contracting the disease. Gays should not be gotten rid of in order to stop the future spread. IV drug use is bad. No argument. But those people need our help already, without having to worry about AIDS. Their lives are fucked up. Have you ever met a happy junkie? You seem happy that they're likely to be victims of terminal disease on top of that... You have no compassion. If "we" spend "billions of dollars" (jingo) on treatment, then maybe we can cure EVERYONE. Even the 8% of people that you seem to consider normal. We continue to educate in the mean time to slow the spread as much as possible. 8% may seem small to you, but that's still people that you should care about that are dying. And in great number. You should care about the other 92% too, but you seem elated that these "deviants" are dying. That's the part where you're a Nazi. We can, and should do BOTH. Educate AND attempt to cure. Both cost money. But once a cure is found, it would be relatively cheap to cure Africa. And we could do it, if it weren't for skidmarks like you existing on the face of the planet. And when it comes to facts, both have my posts to you have been filled with facts. You use statistics, which foolish people sometimes mistake for facts. Statistics can be useful, but they can only be used to back facts. You actually have to have facts in the first place, and then you use the statistics to make your argument sound more convincing. You can't just say "Homos are evil. Look - the numbers prove it!".

  • June 8, 2004, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Here's a mind twister for ya GreatOne

    by ginta1971

    "While cancer and other types of diseases can be/are affected by lifestyle, genes/heredity as play a huge role, unlike HIV." Yes, you sure are correct, genes/heredity do play a role, BUT, under your wonderful thought pattern, I shouldn't care one lick about people who get cancer from smoking or tanning (and by tanning I am talking fake bakers and people who go out in the sun for express purpose of tanning). I mean, aren't those "deviant" behaviors? Smokers are not the majority, so what they do is not "normal", and they bring this upon themselves with a "lifestyle choice". (before anyone jumps down my throat, I am a reformed 2 pack-a-day smoker) And while I don't have any hard numbers on tanning, I would guess it is under 50%, meaning that the behavior of tanning would also be "deviant" and a "lifestyle choice".******And what about people who destroy their livers with alcohol? Should they REALLY be allowed the shot at a liver transplant when, again, it was a "lifestyle choice"?*****Come on GreatOne, open your mind a little, there are so many more places for you to spread your bile around. Why just heap it all on the Homosexuals?

  • June 8, 2004, 12:51 p.m. CST

    I do have that decency voicebox5.

    by morGoth

    Shame on you people who can

  • June 8, 2004, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Oh, I have decency...

    by 3MTA3

    I'm a decent enough human being to know evil when I see it--and Reagan was an evil fucker.

  • June 8, 2004, 1:28 p.m. CST

    ethandarkseid's greatest hits...

    by 3MTA3

    Here ya go--I clipped some of the e-mails that ethandarkseid has been sending me in my personal e-mail box. They look like this: "FUCK YOU FAGGOT FUCK YOUR MOTHER YOU SHIT HEAD you better fucking pray that i dont find you . mother fucker die you fucking bitch fuck your mother you fucking cunt. i wish you would die a horrible death and burn in hell with your fucking mother you bastard. fuck you bitch. fucking DIE I WISH YOU WOULD DIE IN A CAR WRECK AND SCREAM OUT TO A GOD THAT DOESNT EXIST AND YOU FUCKING BURN SCREAMING WITH A METAL SHAFT STUCK IN YOUR THROAT AND GLASS SMASHED IN YOUR FACE YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE AND I WANT YOU TO DIE" ...and they go on and on and on like that. ethandarkseid, you are a cowardly piece of hypocritical shit. Much like the rest of the republicans. ethandarkseid comes on the boards and talks about "banning" people and then sends me personal e-mails like those above. Aren't you republicans glad that you have someone as eloquent as ethandarkseid "defending" your "beliefs?" You probably are... you support our dipshit president. ethandarkseid, you great humanitarian, I have seen the error of my ways... No... wait... actually I haven't and RONALD REAGAN IS A DEAD ASSHOLE AND ALL YOU WEEPY REPUBLICANS JUST NEED TO DEAL WITH THE DEATH OF YOUR OWN PERSONAL HITLER. FUCK YOU.

  • June 8, 2004, 1:31 p.m. CST

    and another thing...

    by 3MTA3

    Would some mentally challenged republican please try to defend ethandarkseid's behavior so that I can tear you a new one as well? This is kinda fun making you republicans look so bad. As if you needed any help.

  • June 8, 2004, 2:36 p.m. CST

    PS: GreatOne... How Statistics work...

    by Daveros

    OK, GreatOne... to quote your Center for Disease Control and Prevention : "At the end of 2002, approximately 384,906 persons in the United States were living with AIDS." So looking back at YOUR statistics... Congratulations, GreatOne! Within the next few years you'll have 192,453 less gay men to be scared of. 107,774 IV drug users will no longer be sucking your hard earned cash out of your pocket. 23,095 of the above people have the nerve to be BOTH. Dirty, stinky gays that ALSO inject drugs! Thank the sweet Lord we're rid of those guys, huh? Is that really how you think???! 19,245 of the people that are going to die contracted AIDS from sex with an IV drug user, or a woman having sex with a bisexual man. Are these people guilty of your "deviant behaviour"? Did they know that their lovers were drug users, or bisexual? We have 3,849 victims that died from a blood transfusion. 3,849 haemophiliacs will die soon. And another 3,849 people have been sentenced to death because they slept with one of our blood transfusion victims, or slept with a haemophiliac. Surely (even in your blinkered eyes) everyone is innocent in these last situations. 11,547 recipients of blood, haemophiliacs, or people that happened to sleep with any of the above..... 11,547 people! And we've not even touched your saintly 8% of normal people that remain. The people that innocently contracted HIV through consentual heterosexual sex. Do you ever wonder why that 8% even exists? That's 8% of people that have never, ever done anything wrong in your eyes. They've not been born a haemophiliac. They've not even slept with a someone that doesn't know they've contracted HIV from a blood transfusion. 30,792 people like that will die soon. Ten times the number that died on 9/11. And you show NO compassion towards them. Get some perspective, OK? And this is just in America. In Africa a TRUE tragedy is happening. You and I live in two of the richest countries in the world. We can cure this problem. With education and research.

  • June 8, 2004, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Praising Reagan

    by Torgol

    Reagan made life better for Americans by killing hundreds of thousands of South Americans and selling weapons to the fucking enemies. HE SOLD WEAPONS TO THE ENEMY, last time I checked that is what we call treason.

  • June 8, 2004, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Praising Reagan

    by Torgol

    Reagan made life better for Americans by killing hundreds of thousands of South Americans and selling weapons to the fucking enemies. HE SOLD WEAPONS TO THE ENEMY, last time I checked that is what we call treason.

  • June 8, 2004, 4:41 p.m. CST

    REAGAN WAS A DISASTER

    by bushsux

    For all you simple-minded conservatives out there who love this guy let me give you a wake up call. This guy was the biggest liar/ bs artist ever to set his slippery feet into the oval office. This guy was a snake who did things that would make Richard Nixon and that current knucklehead in the White House look like a saints. He supported fascists death squads in El Salvador- Why? - to prevent a socialist uprising that would have had no effect at all on the cold war(what did Nicaragua and Cuba do to us?). He cut taxes for the wealthy while cutting funding for education, housing and urban development, welfare, AIDS research and etc. etc. Probably Ronald Reagan's biggest sin was giving Saddam Hussein chemical weapons during the Iraq War. Not only did Hussein use the weapons to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent Kurds and Shi'ites(not to mention Iranian soldiers and civilians), it gave the Bush Administration 20 years later an excuse to invade Iraq, waste billions of dollars of our money and kill to date 829 young American kids. Reagan an American hero? Give me a break, this guy was an unmitigated disaster who played the American public and simple-minded, short-sighted conservatives. Don't even try to give this idiot credit for the fall of the Soviet Union. It was going to happen anyway with or without Reagan in office, they were going bankrupt anyway well before '81. It's a communist country people, they have no money but are spending billions on nuclear weapons and military anyway. A fall was bound to happen. Like Nancy Reagan, support stem-cell research so that the next generation of Americans won't have to suffer through over-hyped, underacheiving loser Presidents like Reagan, Bush and that lame duck Bush Jr.

  • June 8, 2004, 7:15 p.m. CST

    All Reagan ever did for me was give me thermonuclear nightmares.

    by Mosquito March

    I'm amazed at how many people here are looking back at the Reagan Era with warm, fuzzy fondness. I guess I'm one of the only people who thought it was a super-scary fucking time to be alive. Especially with all that fundamentalist Armageddon shit Reagan was always talking about while playing nuclear chicken with the Soviets. My junior high school, just outside of DC, had on the premisis an old air raid siren from the '50s or '60s, which would periodically go off according to some apparent testing schedule that never really seemed to follow a particular pattern. When you have your President on television talking about the Biblical end of the world between installments of "The Day After", an air raid siren in the Nation's Capital is about the last thing a kid wants to hear. Then we got to go to lunch and eat packets of ketchup, which Reagan had said should be counted as a "vegetable" in a supposedly nutritious meal. Good times, good times.

  • June 8, 2004, 7:24 p.m. CST

    PS...

    by Mosquito March

    Maybe if Reagan hadn't deregulated the airlines, it wouldn't be so easy to sneak boxcutters onboard.

  • June 9, 2004, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Congrats....

    by Lando Griffin

    just when you think libby scumbags can't sink any lower

  • June 10, 2004, 2:39 a.m. CST

    stoopid

    by sexyjesus666

    Is there anything lamer than someone making empty threats on an anonymous message board? Let's see... Nope.

  • June 10, 2004, 2:51 a.m. CST

    There's nothing lamer than stoopid.

    by 3MTA3

    He proves that time and time again. Now he's a narc and a censor on top of being a general douchebag. Oh, and by the way... RONALD REAGAN = DEAD ASSHOLE!!!

  • April 12, 2010, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Dang, Orcus went back unintentionally

    by orcus

    Eeeesh