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THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW review

Published at:  May 26, 2004 3:59:04 AM CDT

The hate and spite that THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW is going to get is going to be a rare sight. For me… I enjoy the film as a beautiful work of science fiction along the best George Pal traditions. I enjoy the film as a story of a man enduring the impossible to keep a promise made to his son and working on the faith that his son was smart enough to survive similar impossible odds. I enjoy that the film reaffirms that Austin is the best place to live in the United States. Lastly, I enjoy the film as a Jonathan Swift style black satire regarding the absolutely irresponsible scientific and environmental misjudgments of the Bush Administration, and in particular… I’m quite fond of the portrayal of the puppet President and the incompetent Stromboli Vice President, even though they didn’t go the cheap route of hiring dead on look-alikes… what is there, is an obvious parody of a President that was seemingly on Vacation and doing photo-ops whilst crisis hit the country, with no clue how to respond… and a belligerent Vice-President with no patience or tolerance for any input outside of that of his own personal realm of experience. Obviously this isn’t meant to be Bush and Cheney. Obviously. No, Really it isn’t. They’re even different names. So there’s no reason to get… defensive. Ahem.



Like I said – those four levels of enjoyment are why I dig this movie.



The George Pal tradition of grand science fiction disaster filmmaking being the highest level of reason for enjoyment. You look at his TIME MACHINE or WHEN WORLD’S COLLIDE or ATLANTIS: THE LOST CONTINENT or THE WAR OF THE WORLDS and you can see the obvious parallels. Emmerich has a fetish for enormous scale destruction, and nobody makes the deaths of hundreds of thousands more beautiful to watch. Yes, I know that’s kinda sick to say, but it’s true. It’s like that nuclear blast in L.A. from T2 that Cameron shot… stunningly gorgeous… But compare the beauty and spectacle of Emmerich’s Los Angeles Twister sequence to Jan De Bont’s TWISTER – and there’s no comparison. Roland wins hands down. Compare the beauty of Emmerich’s Ice Aged New York, to that of Spielberg’s in AI… I lean towards Roland again. His skies are so beautiful, the weather spectacle, truly awe-inspiring. In KEY LARGO, when Lionel Barrymore’s character went into his big speech about “making a big wave” – I had always imagined a single big tsunami… now in my mind, I’ll think of the awesome force of the surge that swept over New York. WOW! That’s Spectacle!



In George Pal’s epics – the stars were cautionary scientists that kept cool heads, usually had some damsel that got in distress and a society in the sway of extinction. Well, Emmerich’s contribution to the disaster film is bringing in what I call the Holy Trinity of Science Fiction Character Dynamics, which tend to be defined by the Kirk, Spock & McCoy model. Only, Emmerich applies it to all character dynamics.



In THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW, it’s made up of a series of trios. You have Jake Gyllenhaal, the girl he’s sweet on, and his geeky friend. You have Dennis Quaid, the guy he’s been doing science with forever and his geeky friend. You have Ian Holm, the emotional and responsible associate with a new borne and the geeky soccer loving associate. You have the Vice President, the lead science advisor kiss ass and clueless comedic President. You have Sela Ward, her longtime associate and the Peter Pan loving sick kid. You have the head New York Librarian, the longtime traditionalist librarian and the indie-minded feminist librarian type. You have the homeless guy, his dog he loves and the comedic New York Police Officer guy. HOWEVER – sometimes – the dynamics shift around… Like in Dennis Quaid’s central core character grouping – they’re joined by hot Asian NASA Girl, that his geeky friend/associate gets a crush on, meaning the long time science associate is rendered useless and therefore disposable to the “team”. Then there’s alternate groupings of 3’s like Quaid’s father, Sela Ward’s mother and Jake Gyllenhaal’s son dynamic. Or Jake Gyllenhaal, that yummy girl he’s got a crush on and the rich kid making the moves on her dynamic. Again… all in three’s. Does Emmerich know he does this? Or is this some crazed numerology thing… I mean… there’s even 3 super storm systems, 3 astronauts in the space station and a 3 act story structure! If I keep this up, I’ll go insane finding the 3’s in my own life and how all dynamics abide by the Kirk, Spock and McCoy pattern. You may think it is crazy… but look at your own trios… and I’m not talking about that insane cel phone with all the buttons.



Ultimately – the most important trio that comes into play is the structure the film takes after the disaster has hit and the film follows the insular family unit and what each is doing. How the mother is continuing to care for the sick Peter Pan loving kid, How the father begins his epic quest to reach the son, and the son’s desperate attempt to survive the cataclysmic disaster that befalls New York. Personally – I really liked this structure and I like that the film reaches the effects peak at the midpoint, then slows down and narrows it’s focus to these three familial story threads – to show what this family did to try to remain a family even with the epic disaster around them and divided by great distance. This might be a bit schmaltzy for many of you, but I like insular family units, patriotic spectacle and the cinematic deaths of millions.



The reaffirming my belief that Austin is the best place to live in the United States – was absolutely confirmed by the film. As you’ll see at the end of the film from outer space, Austin, Texas is not frozen by the on-coming Ice Age. Not only that – but the librarian that was attempting to save a Guttenberg Bible… well, that was all noble and all… but the two stored at the Harry Ransom Center at the University of Texas would’ve survived – and I have heard they’re in better condition than that one that New York City has. Since Washington D.C., New York and Los Angeles were all destroyed… I think this should just underline to future investors to invest in Austin’s burgeoning film community. Hollywood’s studios will be destroyed by cataclysm, as will Toronto’s and New York’s film facilities. This means that Austin really is the key creative place to be, with it’s awesome music, film and arts community, it’s also a political center… so it seems that the Capital of the United States should move here, the intellectuals and creatives should all reside here and I really do recommend that you really hot babes out there that are concerned about survival… that you move to Austin as well.



Lastly – there’s the Political Aspect and the Science Aspect of the film. I fully approve. Sure the speed with which the disaster hits may seem ludicrous to today’s scientific models and data… but if the highly improbable series of circumstances as underlined in this film’s reality were set about to happen… I suppose I can believe in the “fiction” of the film. If a storm system were able to suck down the temperatures from the highest levels of our atmosphere the way their models showed… I suppose that instant freezing thing could happen… and the point regarding how did the Ice Age Mammoth’s freeze with undigested food still preserved inside of them… meaning that freezing was instantaneous… and then extrapolating this as a possibility… well… I don’t know how else to explain it, so this’ll work for now. As for the nose thumbing at the Bush Administration’s Environmental crimes and arrogance… AMEN! But then I live in Austin, we send people to jail for life just for poisoning an old tree… and we come together to save endangered ridiculous animals so the rich can’t golf! And given I used to go door to door for CLEAN WATER ACTION, an environmental advocacy group… well, I’m somewhat predisposed to listen to scientists and consider the long term worldwide implications of modern day scientific and environmental policies. But then, like I said… I’m a proud liberal and this is a proud piece of liberal science fiction done really well, now if only it had Bruce Dern starring and Joan Baez contributing to the soundtrack! That would have ruled!



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    Readers Talkback

  • May 26, 2004 4:05:18 AM CDT

    This film looks quite good

    by samfisher

    Despite the fact it's done by the guy who did independance day and godzilla. Maybe he can redeem himself. Think its a novel idea on the disaster genre...no asteroids, killer bees or virus's left to exploit. What will they think of next?

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  • May 26, 2004 4:05:38 AM CDT

    no subject

    by bioforge

    Wow sounds good ...

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  • May 26, 2004 4:06:23 AM CDT

    Oh and i meant to add...FIRST!

    by samfisher

    Sorry..wanted to do that for ages.

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  • May 26, 2004 4:11:45 AM CDT

    Dennis Quaid for Indiana Jones!

    by magnoliafan

    He has a lot of similarities to Harrison Ford..... at least cast him as the brother! I reckon we can get a good 3 films out of him before he gets too old.

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  • May 26, 2004 4:13:07 AM CDT

    the politics related to this movie are insane

    by pogo on my own

    This movie may be a fun flick and all, but making some kind of political statement out of the film is stupid. I am an avid listener to Art Bell who wrote the book this movie is based around. The climate change is not tied to anything we do, it is a change that happens naturally. Were the wooley mamoths that flash froze way back when destroying the planet? No when the world gets tired of us, it shakes the etch-a-sketch and we get wiped out. lets hope this tb does degenerate into a political hate war, Harry has enough money in his pockets as it is.

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  • May 26, 2004 4:29:09 AM CDT

    Pay Attention, Class

    by dark matter

    Harry just gave a lesson on how to write a sellable big-budget Hollywood screenplay. Now if you can just find someone who'll read it...
    And BTW, I love Harry's reviews. He's the only one whose opinion I'll listen to before I've seen the movie myself, because, well, to be honest, I just don't trust his opinions. He's a good guy, though. God bless him for having this site here for all us geeks to geek out on. Oh, and am I first?

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  • May 26, 2004 4:30:11 AM CDT

    Pay Attention, Class

    by dark matter

    Looks like I took way too long to write that one. Damn these beers.

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  • May 26, 2004 4:33:28 AM CDT

    Pay Attention, Class

    by dark matter

    3 more flicks? dude dennis quaid's already 50

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  • May 26, 2004 4:50:00 AM CDT

    Etch-a-Sketch...good one!

    by sg7

    I agree. I think that eventually the planet just does a hard reset and nature puts the smack down. Or a big rock hits. Take your pick. This movie looks like fun. Anyone who gets cuaght up in the "politics" needs to chill (instantly no less). Enjoy the damn movie, don't get polarized byt "the message" as we have enough of that shit already.

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  • May 26, 2004 4:52:01 AM CDT

    Good for you for calling a spade a spade.

    by daddylonghead

    I'll probably go check it out, although I'm an ID4 hater (including hating the nonsensical acronym) and this sounds like the same overambitious Balzac-sized cast (the novelist, not the equally gifted crack-smoking alien barbarian musician). Man, who would win in a fight, Bolt Thrower or GWAR? Fuck, I'm stoned. Obviously Bolt Thrower's true doom sludge power would crush the strayed pop-ified dilletantism of GWAR. Sorry Brockie you lost it when you lost Bishop.

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  • May 26, 2004 5:05:06 AM CDT

    Scientific moron

    by rjc999


    This movie has about as much relevance to current environmental issues as "The Core" does.

    Why didn't liberal morons complain when Harrison Ford made Air Force One, a movie in which he advocates preemptive invasions of foreign countries to stop terror "even if our allies don't like it"

    This site is becoming a joke. Movies are now evaluated on their political content, not their quality. Harry likes anything that strokes his fat ego and moronic knee-jerk political viewpoint.

    Hey, a movie could be utter scientific nonsense, but if it makes Bush look bad and is "consciousness raising", its great!

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  • May 26, 2004 5:08:03 AM CDT

    weirdness...

    by jonus511

    when I clicked on the link to this review, my browser too me here first: http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=17656

    isn't that veird? its almost as weird as a dutch accent...but not quite.

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  • May 26, 2004 5:14:54 AM CDT

    Re: Dark Matter - Dennis Quaid

    by magnoliafan

    He may be 50 but it's a pretty young 50! Take look on imdb at some recent pics..... the guy still almost look as young as when he played Han Solo in Innerspace. He's just now got a tougher, rugged look. The perfect age to be a Jones, be it Indiana or the brother. The same deep voice, same mannerisms, everything. You can even imagine him doing "the finger of doom". Try it in your head and you'll see. Harrison Ford was already close to 50 when he did Last Crusade don't forget, and could have done another 3 films during the 90's no problem.

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  • The British Isles are on the same latitude as parts of Scandinavia, and the only reason we have a temperate climate over here instead of an icy, semi-arctic one, is the Gulf Stream: a massive, warm ocean current that flows across the Atlantic from the Gulf of Mexico and warms the coastlines of Western Europe. If global warming keeps up (and with Bush backing out of the Kyoto agreement to reduce pollution, it surely will) much longer, and the ice caps melt much more, apparently the drop in salinity in the ocean (from being diluted with melt-water from the poles), will disrupt and then stop the Gulf Stream. This could very well happen within our lifetimes, and if it does, my children would have to grow up in an icy, snowy country, and my lovely, green homeland would no longer exist. And then when Bush backs out of the critical Kyoto agreement, asking why should America be responsible for cleaning up the world's air, I look at the statistics that show that the US produces vastly more greenhouse gas pollution per head than any other developed country in the world, and I scream 'Because you're dirtying it up, you stupid f#&8er!!'. ----------- But all that's beside the by, that's not what this film is about (although the ironic paralell brings a wry, bitter smile). I'm beginning to have hope that this could be quite a good film, I think I'll give it a shot.

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  • May 26, 2004 5:28:04 AM CDT

    play doh

    by pogo on my own

    then why has it happened before? Who was responsible for it then? Does it not make more sense that is an cycle that this planet goes though repeatedly. And this movie was based around Art Bells book you moron, so he obviously believes the same thing you do. And I base all my political views on the insane rantings of Michael Moore.

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  • The real question is...will the nine year old inside me want to sit through a bunch of ners traversing an post-apocalyptic New York City? My inner nine year old is not a tool, so NO.

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  • May 26, 2004 5:51:25 AM CDT

    Syncronize your clocks

    by chickengeorgevii

    So...if The Day After Tomorrow is Released the day before, and I were to see the day after tomorrow the day before at the midnight screening, would I be seeing the day before tomorrow the day before the day after tomorrow or on the day after tomorrow itself because the day after tomorrow now comes out the day after tomorrow by the date today which legitimately makes the release date of the day after tomorrow the day after tomorrow but if it is shown the day before the day after tomorrow and then I will be seeing the day after tomorrow tomorrow which then kinda deflates the legend of being able to ask my friends

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  • May 26, 2004 6:12:14 AM CDT

    So besides the Punisher does Harry ever see a movie he doesn't l

    by thefoywonder

    Funny how his reviews suddenly become much more positive once he found himself a Hollywood player. Or maybe he just needs to become a tad more discerning.

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  • May 26, 2004 6:12:57 AM CDT

    Oh please, please let me read more from idiots citing this movie

    by vikingkitty

    That way, I can recognize the idiots from afar.

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  • May 26, 2004 6:31:03 AM CDT

    Change of site name

    by bart of darkness

    Rename AICN to TDATN. The day after tomorrow is usually when people can finally access these pages.

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  • May 26, 2004 6:31:21 AM CDT

    Jonas511

    by papageno

    quote:
    when I clicked on the link to this review, my browser too me here first: http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=17656 isn't that veird? its almost as weird as a dutch accent...but not quite.

    Whaddaya mean... "too me here first"?
    Is that english?
    And are you making fun of a Dutch accent?
    Don't ridicule the best darn country in the world!
    Mike Meyers needs to take lessons before even attempting to sound even remeotly like a Dutch! We do not speak German! (nor do we walk around on wooden shoes, eat tulips with cheese, and live in windmills. And we are not pott-heads either!
    Or are you a Dutchman trying to be funny?

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  • May 26, 2004 6:36:26 AM CDT

    Yeah, but did it make you cry like GODZILLA did?

    by cash bailey

  • May 26, 2004 6:37:36 AM CDT

    At least we didn't have to wade through 47 Amazon links this tim

    by cash bailey

  • May 26, 2004 7:18:47 AM CDT

    Sad sad sad

    by redbox

    I really hate world ending movies, especially when the world feels like its ending.

    Cheers

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  • May 26, 2004 7:21:05 AM CDT

    Ah-ha, so it "looks nice".

    by salvatoregravano

    You can cover shit with silver paint and sprinkle it with crushed pyrite, and it may "look nice" at a distance. But, it will still stink, and once you approach it and touch it, the cover of paint will break and crap will emerge. Looks like that is this movie, only with less pyrite.

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  • May 26, 2004 7:44:19 AM CDT

    I don't know whch one SUCK#ED harder: THIS SNOOZER OR SOUL -ess

    by mentallymariah

    Summers off to a very dissapointing start! Shrek 2 was cute, but all 3 movies this weekend are TERRIBLE! Stay home and rent Donnie Darko instead! Soul Plane made me want to get a lobotomy and this movie made me wish I had that bump of coke from last weekend so I could wake up from my coma, they should have called it THE DAY AFTER YOUR COMA!

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  • May 26, 2004 7:58:15 AM CDT

    PLANT!

    by ford fairlane

    Harry is a Plant. Actually... He is a vegetable. After his TCM Remake review, the man cannot be trusted. joblo.com, chud.com, darkhorizons.com... There is some REAL webwork.

    Enjoy.

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  • May 26, 2004 8:17:17 AM CDT

    Great Left Wing Scifi Shlock

    by markwhittington

    So, let's see. The film is filled with junk science. The film is based on cheesy, 1950s disaster epics. But Harry loves it anyway because it bashes the President and Vice President. How pathetic.

    Of course may I remind everyone that John Kerry's Boston is almost certainly destroyed in this laughable scenario.

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  • May 26, 2004 8:23:03 AM CDT

    A laughable film and review

    by zacdilone

    Only Harry would try to find good in this. That way, if it's a hit he comes off as some kind of prophet, but if it flops he can say, "Well, I did qualify my remarks."

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  • May 26, 2004 8:28:29 AM CDT

    The "Science" Behind The Day After Tomrrow

    by markwhittington

    Here is what a real environmental scientist has to say about the "science" behind The Day After Tomorrow:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-05-24-michaels_x.htm

    It seems that the left has to lie in order to advance it's agenda.

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  • May 26, 2004 8:41:31 AM CDT

    One can easily overlook the bad science. We do that everywhere

    by fluffyunbound

    OK, so even if global warming is true, almost none of the disasters that are the set pieces of TDAT can happen. Hailstones have a structural limit for size, as do tornadoes. The melting of a significant portion of the polar ice caps, even if it happened quickly, would produce coastal floods but not tidal waves, which require an entirely different set of circumstances than a simple increase in water volume. And the entire "inversion of the stratosphere and troposphere" is thermodynamically impossible. But forget all that. The science can be fudged for entertainment purposes, since they do that in EVERY OTHER sci-fi work out there. So that can be overlooked. But what CAN'T be overlooked is the extraordinary lie embedded in the politics surrounding this film. Why? Because: if the events in the film were possible, and if the "fake" science in the film were true, then not one thing in the Democratic Party platform and not one thing that Kerry has campaigned on would have any effect on the outcome. Since the Kyoto Treaty would not reduce the amount of CO2 being released into the atmosphere AGGREGATE WORLDWIDE, being an advocate of the Kyoto Treaty is not and CAN NOT be advanced as a policy cure for this "problem". The only thing that would be a solution, if the claims of TDAT were true, would be a policy that reduced the worldwide aggregate amount of CO2 released into the atmosphere to pre-industrial levels, or at least to levels commensurate with the speed at which carbon can be fixed into rock by the oceans. NOT ONE OF YOU CAN NAME one single, solitary policy advocated by Kerry that would bring this about. Because he has not advocated any such policy. Neither has the Democratic Party. So please spare us the Bush complaints. You know, people in glass houses and all that.

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  • May 26, 2004 8:48:09 AM CDT

    There will be a terrorist attack soon inside the United States.

    by cknightshift

    I'm a historian, a conservative and a Christian. Bush and his supporters are ushering in a fascism that would have made Heinrich Himmler squeal with delight. Politics has nothing to do with our present situation folks. Time to get our collective head out of the sand and realize this: it's better to die on our feet than to live on our knees.

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  • May 26, 2004 8:50:33 AM CDT

    He enjoys the film...

    by achilles

    He forgot to say, "I enjoy the film because touting it makes me look enviromentally sensitive, which will endear me to the vapid Hollywood types I so desperately want to hang out with... and I enjoy the film for the innumerable perks given to me by the producers so would conveniently forget any semblance of objectivity when discussing this overblown, derivative in every way, piece of crap Hollywood schlock."

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  • May 26, 2004 8:58:33 AM CDT

    Ding, ding, ding. It sounds like there is a new addition to the

    by excaliburffolkes

    Let's see, that brings the total possible ways up to 6:

    1. Advertise heavily on AICN;
    2. Payoff Harry directly;
    3. Invite Harry to visit the set;
    4. Invite Harry to the premier;
    5. Hire Harry as a producer; and,
    6. Rave about Austin in the film.

    Have I missed any?

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  • May 26, 2004 8:58:54 AM CDT

    You're a puppet, Harry...

    by manos

    ...and not a very good one at that.

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  • May 26, 2004 9:03:24 AM CDT

    Those Bushies are paranoid pricks......

    by zsasz

    I find it laughable that some people in this country are complaining about the political aspects of the plot in this movie. People, its a movie. I am a Democrat who will vote for John Kerry in the November election and if the disasters in this movie were caused by Al Franken or Ted Kennedy's massive egos crashing into the polar ice caps causing worldwide destruction I would watch it anyway and enjoy the destruction. Bush supporters must be nervous about the upcoming election if they have to criticize a popcorn summer sci-fi movie for its political content. Even more funny will be the response the Hannitys/Limbaughs/Gallaghers put out when this movie only generates 80 million. " Ladies and Gentlemen, you see that the American people have spoken at the box office. This fantasy tale about global warming is not being bought by the American public as the box office receipts tally only 80 million dollars; a far cry from Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ." Bushie attacks on TDAT are almost as absurd as newsmax.com running a story about the stale box office draw of "The Adventures of Pluto Nash" not because it sucked but because Americans were insulted that Hillary Clinton was on the million dollar bill.

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  • May 26, 2004 9:14:13 AM CDT

    I love horses

    by jill sandwich

    Best of all the animals

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  • Good old Penn and Teller. Always ready to beat up some hillbilly in a trailer park, but they are afraid to take on the BULLSHIT spewed out by the many multinational corporations. Of course, these rich corporations can afford to hire good lawyers, which those hicks in the trailer parks cant. Then again, maybe this is just a symptom of Penn and Tellers membership in the Ayn Randy Utopian Religious Cult.

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  • May 26, 2004 9:24:59 AM CDT

    Poor Dash Mihok

    by the dracut stomp

    It's a shame this movie's been picked up as a tool for political parties. The Dems picking this up as a tool is like the Republicans using Jurassic Park 3 as propoganda against genetic research. Bush and his retro-conservatives are idiots when it comes to the environment, sure, but the Leftists aren't making themselves look very good, either, by saying, "Look what happened to Dash Mihok! Look what happened to Dash Mihok! Dash Mihok is dead! NYC's gonna freeze and wolves are going to take over our city!" Let's hope the centrists take back the government and let the foaming-at-the-mouth Born-Again Retro-cons and the whacko ACLU loonies kill themselves.

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  • May 26, 2004 9:29:10 AM CDT

    Proud Liberals are EVIL

    by jeditemple

    You tree-huggers go see your Liberal movie and pledge your souls to Satan at the concession stand. >:)

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  • May 26, 2004 9:31:17 AM CDT

    Doh!

    by captain opus

    For Christ sakes, Harry! It's a goddamn disaster film from the director of ID4, and yet you still found a way to insert your uninformed, maladjusted, left wing ideology. You're an idiot. Quit running this site, and hand it over to Quint.

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  • May 26, 2004 9:33:04 AM CDT

    BUSH IS A NAZI

    by stomp1234

    Hitler was never elected either.

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  • May 26, 2004 9:37:14 AM CDT

    Hmmmmm

    by rapmaster c

    I think Harry liked it then. A political message? I could care less, as politics don't concern me at all. Bush and Blair are fools, not only in their foreign policy but their domestic policy as well. I hope both of them are kicked out soon, so more reasonable and intelligent people can take over. But this is a disaster film, not a portrayal of the Bush Administration's handling of the environment. People who think otherwise are either deliberately mixing it up or are just overanalysing. Liberals? Republicans? They all fall under "Idiots" in my book. Good day!

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  • May 26, 2004 9:47:43 AM CDT

    I enjoy the film as a story of a man enduring the impossible to

    by gernblanston67

    Give me a freakin break!!! As for the rest of the review, I think you give the Emmerich/Devlin (are they still a couple) team a bit too much credit. They're hacks. And no, I don't believe Harry ever sees a movie he doesn't search for a reason to like.

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  • May 26, 2004 9:54:39 AM CDT

    That Penn & Teller episode WAS bullshit.

    by wesley snipes

    Their argument was essentially, "The people found at a typical environmental rally are spacey, uninformed hippies. Therefore, we should ignore the environmentalists." (of course there was a tiny 1-second 'the environment is still a concern' sound bite after an entire show stating the opposite) What the fuck? The show was entertaining, but it's scary to think that there are morons who would actually buy that as a good reason to largely ignore the environment. And yes, the Earth is a lot tougher than we think. The problem is that the human race isn't. There's nothing we can do to destroy the Earth, but there's shitload we can do to make living there hell for ourselves. That's what environmentalism really is about: Ensuring that the planet remains liveable and pleasant for ourselves. That's a selfish goal that even the most obtuse, goose-stepping conservative should be able to get behind.

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  • May 26, 2004 9:59:05 AM CDT

    Day After Tomorrow - Convienient!

    by brit pop

    Just from looking at the trailer for this film, it looks to be filled with the "phew! that was close!" spectacles that constute most 'Hollowood' blockbusters... The ice shelf collapses right next to Mr Quaid's hut.
    Jake G just makes it into the library as the bloody big wave arrives.
    The eye of the hurricane from space just so happens to be over the oh so familiar view of the Manhattan area as the boys in the space station are passing over.
    And I am assuming that when the ESB falls over it will just miss some integral characters.
    I'll still go to see it mind, can't beat large scale destruction! But it echoes back to Armageddon when for some reason - the monster armadillo's are equiped with miniguns (for the asteroid bound alien hoardes, no doubt) for Benny boy to shoot his way out of the downed shuttle! Coincidence? I think not!

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  • May 26, 2004 10:04:03 AM CDT

    I'll only see this if we get to see Sela Ward in that black, lea

    by osmosis jones

    Like Van Helsing did with monster movies, this is basically throwing every single disaster movie trope into one movie and seeing what'll stick. I'm sorry, but I've had my fill.

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  • May 26, 2004 10:05:06 AM CDT

    Harry, I just remembered why I hate reading your reviews - They'

    by theginger twit

    Dude, A bit of vigilance. Please!

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  • May 26, 2004 10:17:35 AM CDT

    You know what will happen if the polar ice caps melt.... (Get re

    by theginger twit

  • May 26, 2004 10:54:10 AM CDT

    Liberal Propaganda again!!

    by krigan

    Come on Harry I am sick of hearing all your BS Liberal views on this site. Is this a film site or not. As far as Bush being asleep during 9/11, how long had the man been in office? 9 months? 9 months to fix the huge mess Clinton made? 9 months to rebuild or decimated Military? How about Clinton, he was in office 8 years while we watched at least four different attacks against this country by Bin Laden (African embassy, Cole, 1st world trade center bombing & Somalia) Now what did Clinton do? Did he get Bin Laden? No he was more concerned with getting oral in the oval office than protecting this country. He did almost nothing. He was more concerned with getting reelected than he was with doing the right thing. If the poles told him something might be unpopular he did nothing. That is why Bin Laden could plan such a devastating attack because he had 8 years without any pressure on him. Is it Harry the film critic? Or Harry the Liberal Spin doctor?

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  • May 26, 2004 10:59:28 AM CDT

    It could happen...

    by dcervera

    Sure, the events of this movie could really happen. Just like nuclear testing in the Pacific could really create a giant, city destroying lizard. Absolutely!

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  • May 26, 2004 11:51:13 AM CDT

    So Fluffy Unbound took you all to school and you have nothing to

    by sheik yerbouti

    Okay fools, please respond to the sharp and insightful talkback from your pal Fluffy. He didn't spout partisan diatribe, he just made sense through using the truth, what a concept. The fact that no one who hates Bush will recognize, is that the Kyoto agreement was worthless and an insanely jealous attempt to topple the American economy because the rest of the world is pissed. For example, under the terms of the Kyoto agreement, Russia and the satellite nations would not have to change one aspect of their pollution spewing environmental policy simply because their overwhelming mass of undeveloped natural land counterbalances whatever pollutants they want to release into the environment. So they can go ahead and ruin rivers, lakes, and oceans, burn forests, pump untested toxins into the skies, but because they own uninhabitable forest regions, it doesn't matter. Now how does that make sense, please answer me, you pseudo-environmentalists, answer the question, because you have absolutely no basis for what you believe other than what your political party feeds you through talking points and short digestible newsbytes. Enjoy your butts!!!

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  • May 26, 2004 1:04:55 PM CDT

    Bye bye CHICKEN GEORGE!

    by tedsallis

    Or should I say 'Jorge de Pollo for when CG tries to get our hispanic vote.

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  • May 26, 2004 1:20:15 PM CDT

    Hey Clare Quality, you do an incredible job of relaying lies

    by sheik yerbouti

    As a "non-white" Christian I should point out that your sad myopic view of what you see as "White Christian America" resembles nothing of the beliefs of what the majority of Bible believers actually accept. Firstly you seem to be referring to the Left Behind nonsense, which it should be noted is a theological precept that represents a minority of Christians, and its "pre-tribulation rapture eschetology" is still quite a debatable issue amongst theologians and hardly the mainline ideas. Also, as someone who has actually read some of the Left Behind series, painfully I might add, no where does it make racial, econominc, or sexual orientation distinctions, this is a misinterpretation of combining radical Republicanism with conservative Christianity. Something that happens all the time, and with good reason, but if that is your assumption that all Christians are represented by Pat Robertson and all politically conservative thinkers are represented by Rush Limbaugh, fine I can understand that as they seem to have a large uneducated audience. But just consider that against that rationale I would lump all democrats into the same boat as your proud senator Robert Bird (former and unapoligetic Klan member and racist) as well as nutty Hollywood Limousine liberals who decry against middle America's destruction of the environment as they drive away in one of their 19 monster SUV's to get ready to board their private Lear which pumps out more harmfull emissions than any car will in a year. My point is that your generalities are tired and lame, find a new bandwagon to jump on, this one is loosing steam!

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  • May 26, 2004 1:28:46 PM CDT

    Mixing stories and politics

    by emarkp

    If this were a disaster movie, I might be interested in seeing it. But another political commentary by soundbite is not something I want to see.

    Okay Harry, we get it. You don't like Bush. Yet roughly half the country do. I guess the producers of this flick don't mind cheesing off half the country to get their inane message out. Which isn't even scientifically feasible. And was written by Art Freaking Bell.

    I don't go to the movies to listen to a political diatribe. Forget it.

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  • May 26, 2004 2:14:13 PM CDT

    Yet another political diatribe forced into a review

    by junior frenger

    LISTENING TO EVERY REVIEW BECOME SOME POLITICAL DIATRIBE IS BECOMING FUCKING TEDIOUS!!!Guess what tubby? NOBODY CARES! The science in this film is right up there with "The Core". Your political ideals hold about as much credibility and weight as your film reviews. ZERO. Anything remotely political and you're gonna rant about it. Shut up and review the movie...better yet, stop reviewing movies altogether and let others do it, like Moriarty,Quint and Capone. Where's a Neil Cumpston review when I need it. Nobody on this site gives a shit about your beliefs.

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  • May 26, 2004 2:29:01 PM CDT

    Harry is, as usual, laughably full of shit

    by rickp66

    How ironic that an obese congenital retard like Harry would get his take on geopolitics from a movie based on a book by Art Bell and Whitley Strieber, a talk radio whacko and a UFO abductee.
    Just as ironic as him getting his international politics from that master of the fictional "documentary" Michael Moore.
    I wonder if liberals realize just how Godawfully stupid their worship of this movie makes them look. Probably not...most liberals aren't self-aware enough to realize anything.

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  • May 26, 2004 2:34:27 PM CDT

    Bush is evil

    by knight of ni

    It's clear that Bush is the vilest evil mother(expletive deleted) since Hitler. The worst part is how he uses religeon to justify his actions. I think it is blazingly clear that any true God fearing Christ loving Christian (both of them) should be horrified by the things Bush has done. I used to take some small measure of pride in being an American and a Christian, but now he has sullied both names in one fell swoop. And all the Bush supporters who claim to be Christians, you hypocrites! Christ brought a message of peace and love, not of killing and hate. Have you ever heard of turning the other cheek? Loving those who hate you? And praying for those who harm you? An eye for an eye is not the way, read sermon on the mount you hypocrites! And as for America, it's doomed, democracy is dead, it was nice while it lasted, by it only took one power hungry manipulative bastard to destroy it. Thanks to all you assholes. When I am really pessimistic I sometimes let myself think that you deserve what will come, you have brought it on yourselves. As for me, my eternity is secure, I will just have to manage the best I can for now.

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  • May 26, 2004 2:38:35 PM CDT

    Stone and Parker wanted to parody this movie

    by maverick026

    I forgot where I read it, probably on this site, but the South Park guys wanted to parody this movie by doing a full length animated version and releasing it on the same day. Their lawyers told them that would be a bad idea.

    They still took quite a few shots at it during their latest run of new episodes; especially the one where the people come back from the future to look for jobs.

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  • May 26, 2004 2:40:29 PM CDT

    Stone and Parker wanted to parody this movie

    by maverick026

    I forgot where I read it, probably on this site, but the South Park guys wanted to parody this movie by doing a full length animated version and releasing it on the same day. Their lawyers told them that would be a bad idea.

    They still took quite a few shots at it during their latest run of new episodes; especially the one where the people come back from the future to look for jobs.

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  • May 26, 2004 2:53:39 PM CDT

    Enough Political Grandstanding, Please!

    by odysseus

    Partisan politics already permeates so much of the media, does Ain't-It-Cool really need to jump on the Michael Moore Bush-bashing bandwagon? I, for one, come here for a respite from those sort of polemics. Even as someone "left of middle" in the political spectrum, I'm exasperated by our culture of blame -- one nation and its current administration simply can not take the burden of blame for all the world's woes. Harry's jingoistic, knee-jerk finger wagging is out of place, and frankly a little embarassing to read in the context of this site.

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  • May 26, 2004 3:04:10 PM CDT

    So, I can leave the theater right at the midpoint?

    by e.c.

    The latter half sounds like it's gonna be bad drama. And the drama is like his other movies, I won't want to stick around.

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  • May 26, 2004 3:05:28 PM CDT

    Harry pulled a John Kerry

    by its all real!

    I remember your positive Godzilla review, after many fans rejected that piece of crap, you pulled a John Kerry and did a previously unheard-of second (and negative) review 2 days later. - Now you seem to just love the man-in-suit Godzilla more than ever. Will this again be the case? What the hell happened to you? Where is the Harry who loves films for being just plain cool, or over-the-top, or fun???? Where is that guy - did you eat him? I hope this film is good and fun, I'll watch it - go home and fire up AICN on my computer (which is powered by large energy plants and shelled with oil based plastics and resins - you phoney hypocritical liberal asses). In November I'll vote for Bush - Our ELECTED president whom I respect. You see, I can seperate movies from reality. Even if I dig this movie, it will not change my politcal ideals one way or another.

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  • Only in an intellectually barren wasteland such as the USA could foaming-mouth fundies from the right AND left find any kind of political merit in a movie where tornados THE SIZE OF TEXAS tear thru the LA Valley or tidal waves THE SIZE OF TEXAS barrel down the avenues of NYC, strangely leaving the surrounding buildings barely damaged. American's political buttons are as sensitive as a car alarm on the Bikini Atoll and Roland "the Teutonic Dude" Emmerich will be laughing all the way to the bank as this flick grosses 200M in its first three weeks. And with that, Hollwood will have confirmed the magic movie formula for 2004: Political/religious controversy + gore/FX overkill. Too bad Roger Moore didn't find a way to squeeze in some exploding T&A to push "Farenheit 911" into the megablockbuster category.

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  • Only in an intellectually barren wasteland such as the USA could foaming-mouth fundies from the right AND left find any kind of political merit in a movie where tornados THE SIZE OF TEXAS tear thru the LA Valley or tidal waves THE SIZE OF TEXAS barrel down the avenues of NYC, strangely leaving the surrounding buildings barely damaged. American's political buttons are as sensitive as a car alarm on the Bikini Atoll and Roland "the Teutonic Dude" Emmerich will be laughing all the way to the bank as this flick grosses 200M in its first three weeks. And with that, Hollwood will have confirmed the magic movie formula for 2004: Political/religious controversy + gore/FX overkill. Too bad Roger Moore didn't find a way to squeeze in some exploding T&A to push "Farenheit 911" into the megablockbuster category.

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  • May 26, 2004 3:38:52 PM CDT

    Nonsense

    by btr1701

    This film doesn't even make sense according to its own internal logic. I haven't seen it but I read the script a while back and the whole point Quaid's character was trying to get across is that this sort of disaster has happened over and over again throughout the history of the planet and it will happen again. His main gripe to the administration wasn't that they didn't do enough to stop it but that they didn't do enough to PREPARE for it. Then, inexplicably, he peppers his comments with condemnations of things like SUVs, as somehow being at the root of the problem. Well, if this same sort of thing happened to the mammoths, I'm not sure how SUVs figure into the picture. And just one real-world note: the idea that mankind can really affect the climate in anything approaching the magnitude presented in the film is anthropologically egotistical at best. The Mount Pinatubo eruption in the Philippines alone spewed more particulates and greenhouse gases into the atmosphere IN ONE DAY than mankind has produced since the Industrial Revolution.

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  • May 26, 2004 3:50:46 PM CDT

    Correction

    by nicemarmot

    I meant Michael Moore, not Roger. Apparently, a by-product of my desire to employ a James Bondian type gadget to hammer a post through on this shit-slow site.

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  • May 26, 2004 4:09:04 PM CDT

    Hmmm...let's see, Austin or Cancun?

    by tequilaworm

    Warm blue Caribbean Sea or sand with cactus? Topless girls with thongs on white sand beaches or a fat man running a website? Austin or Cancun? yeah I thought so Harry!...CHEERS Amigos!

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  • May 26, 2004 5:05:23 PM CDT

    Do movies have a responsibilty to show good science?

    by the skeptical

    I think they do.

    If a movie was made featuring Islam, and it deeply perverted the pillars and tennants of the religion, the world would be deeply critical of the film. It would be protested, boycotted, and censored in many places.

    But if the science is completely backwards, in a film which portrays itself as realistic, the producers feel no responsibilty whatever. "Chill out, it's just a movie!"

    Movies will affect public opinion, and if they intentionally mislead the public on scientific issues, they do not deserve our $9.50.

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  • May 26, 2004 5:08:47 PM CDT

    One more thought...

    by the skeptical

    This movie makes me want to trade in my Prius for an H2 Hummer.

    I mean, think about it. If there is a new Ice Age coming, I want four-wheel-drive and traction control. (And heated seats)

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  • May 26, 2004 5:12:27 PM CDT

    Why Do We Put Up With This?

    by jervis tetch

    The tidal wave hitting the Statue of Liberty bit was done in "Deep Impact." NY flooded in that movie, too. "Armageddon" had the same effects. NYC blew up in "Independence Day" and Godzilla '98 stomped it on Emmerich's watch. He's just switched the premise to global warming and is serving up the same old shit. And we should go see it ...why? I guess because there's nothing else and we're a bunch of sheep, that's why.

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  • May 26, 2004 5:13:00 PM CDT

    We Live In Mediorce Times

    by jervis tetch

  • May 26, 2004 5:18:15 PM CDT

    Blade Runner you are an small sad ignorant little person

    by sheik yerbouti

    You live in a world that is so simple and clearly defined. Where the environmental is as fragile as an egg shell and Conservative America is the 800 lb gorrilla that is trying to smash it at every turn. Have you ever considered that much of what is promoted through environmental agencies is propaganda and lies meant to swell the organization's bankroll and political aspirations. You seem to be a passionate person, it would do you well to get some education on the subject, take some heavy science courses and stop listening to politically motivated, power hungry organizations and their screams of global endgame theories in a vain attempt to grab your cash. To be honest many of these so called "environmentalists" are simply Televangelists who decided long ago to believe in dope, long hair, and the almighty dollar instead of televangelists who profess to believe in God while they rip off the weak minded and foolish church goers.

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  • May 26, 2004 5:25:44 PM CDT

    harry rants...

    by maceodkat

    wtf, the more populated this site gets with advertising, the slower this site runs. how in the blue hell does that happen? are you taking all these sponsered dollars and shoving it down your fat gullet?

    i waited pretty much the whole afternoon to open this waste of space and to find what for my troubles? a bs review that that said very little but droned on for ages...

    yhea yhea yhea, why read the site, i use to have excuses, but i think i just ran out....
    aint it cool?

    nope, not anymore.

    mace out

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  • May 26, 2004 6:00:43 PM CDT

    THE CORE II: THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW starring HULK HOGAN as THE B

    by jill sandwich

    Featuring DONNIE DARKO as the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet running down a corridor with flames behind him and a bomb in his chest, and his sister MAGGIE DARKO as the prudish virgin who turns into ANAL CUMSLUT when she takes off her glasses and shakes her hair loose. I can't wait to see this with a crate of nature's own BEER inside me! LOLWTF!!1
    For the record, George Bush is Evil like Evil Genius in Time Bandits but with the Genius part replaced with Fucktard.

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  • May 26, 2004 6:19:59 PM CDT

    Garbage!!

    by flickchick

    Harry must have been smoking something (Trios?! WTF?!) because I also caught a preview last night and that movie was TERRIBLE. Do not, I repeat, do not waste your time on this cliche-ridden garbage! All that so-called "contraversy" with government?? That's just B.S. marketing, a feeble attempt at trying to get more folks to see this awful film.

    "What exactly is wrong?" you might ask... Well, Jake Gyllenhaal is puppy-eyed, Dennis Quaid is determined, and Bilbo...err...Ian Holm sends weather pictures (I swear that's his ONLY function in the whole damn film).

    People are stupid in order to move the so-called "plot" along.

    And waaaay too many people stand is awe of weather phenomena, any normal person would haul ass away from.

    PLUS, the special effects (the one reason someone might check out a matinee) are just OK. The flash-freezing is kinda cool, but I'd have loved to see thousands freeze instantly at the same time.

    Just think of it this way...It's just as corny and full of plot-holes as Independence Day without the cute banter of Will Smith (back when his schtick was still fresh) and Jeff Goldblum.

    Save. Your. Money.

    You've been warned.

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  • May 26, 2004 6:26:36 PM CDT

    More Importantly, We Live in MEDIOCRE Times

    by jervis tetch

    Who said that? What movie? Because it's TRUE.

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  • May 26, 2004 6:40:06 PM CDT

    Thanks Harry. Anything you like I know I'll hate

    by justice41

    You just saved me some money and time. Thanks.

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  • May 26, 2004 6:42:10 PM CDT

    Blade Runner you are correct sir

    by sheik yerbouti

    My apologies, it was not you, I mistook your post. But I must ask you, given your knowledge and insight, wouldn't you not agree that modern environmentalists have been railroaded by pseudo-scientists peddling easy answers and shock tactics. Also I must question why environmentalists are in bed with the liberals in this country, when Democrats whole heartedly support massive illegal and legal immigration, which explodes any hope of population control. the Sierra Club understands clearly this but they won't touch it because they are bankrolled by the DNC. Secondly conservation environmentalists would actually be for large urban centers with vertical high rises and living in downtown districts instead of massive homes in the Hollywood Hills with lots of land, they would leave as much land untouched for conservation as possible. Yet you have confused liberals blaming corporate America for urban sprawl and companies like Wal Mart for the degradation of society, when in fact these institutions cater to their very voting base and it is the hypocritical Hollywood Liberals, whom Harry is in love with, who march in Earth day protests then drive away in one of their 7 Escalades to their 7 acre estate before boarding a private helicopter or jet. See in this country if you have money, you are not the bad guy, everyone else is, because if you make money through "art" which apparently Hollywood believes that their shite is, then you deserve to live like royalty. Well I call shenanigans on them and Harry for peddling this crap.

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  • May 26, 2004 6:42:47 PM CDT

    When the Rapture comes,

    by tucson

    can I have your car?

    G.W. is about the closest thing to an Antichrist that has trod upon this earth in recent memory.

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  • May 26, 2004 6:50:38 PM CDT

    USAToday article BS

    by silbakor

    For those of you spouting the USA today article as proof that all this is BS... You may find it interesting that one of the things its author claims is impossible (bowling-ball sized hailstones) has already happened. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/08/0804_030804_largesthailstone.html
    The largest hailstone on record was 7 inches wide. Also note that he brings up the Gulf Stream point as if to disprove it, then never mentions the ocean at all. In contrast to his claim that it's impossible, it too has already happened. http://www.bbc.co.uk/climate/impact/gulf_stream.shtml and http://www.whoi.edu/institutes/occi/currenttopics/climatechange_wef.html

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  • May 26, 2004 7:12:44 PM CDT

    Sand and Cactus?

    by btr1701

    I don't know what you're smoking but I lived in Austin for 10 years and there was no more sand and cactus there than upstate New York or Maine. And just so ya know, we didn't all tie our horses up outside the local saloon after a hard day of running cattle, either.

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  • May 26, 2004 7:14:03 PM CDT

    Still waiting for someone - anyone - to identify a specific Kerr

    by fluffyunbound

    - chirp. - - chirp. -

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  • May 26, 2004 7:26:13 PM CDT

    Kerry has no policy, he just promises to be liberal and that is

    by sheik yerbouti

    This years election will be a classic example of "my team vs. your team" if you are a card carrying Repub you will line up for Bush because that is what you are "supposed to do". And given what is at stake that is a dumb way to make a decision, but it isn't nearly as bad a way as the Dems who are simply picking Kerry because "he's not the other guy". He has no policy, he is a Senator, America never elects Senators to be Presidents because they have no actual leadership experience, they wait until the last possible moment to vote on an issue and then go with which side they think will get them either money, power or both. They are fickle and never take a stand for anything. I nearly crashed my auto the other night when I saw a bumper sticker that said "If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything; Vote Kerry '04" Does this driver not realize that their sticker represents the height of irony and hypocracy. Fluffy you will be waiting for quite some time.

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  • May 26, 2004 7:31:07 PM CDT

    rjc999, great pointt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by ftbs1322

    I'm also sick of Harry's movie reviews reeking of his left-wing political agenda. I visit this site to keep up to date on the latest movie rumors and to read reviews from people I trust. However, instead of just giving me and everyone else the info we want, Harry somehow feels it is necessary to throw in his ideological bullshit. Just review the damn movie man and cut out the rest of the crap.

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  • May 26, 2004 7:34:10 PM CDT

    This summer movie wise so far has sucked, this will at least del

    by spectrebeeyatch

    This summer sucks. Val Helsing looked to be a cool movie but really sucked. Troy I thought would be an amazing epic film. But it was actually one of the worst films ever made. Shrek 2 I thought would be drop dead funny, I luaghed three times at best and the movie was like an hour and ten minutes I want my eight dollars back!!! So this is the only movie in which I trust, I can't wait for this movie, why? I plan to see things get destroyed by bad weather like big waves and tornado's, and I'm going to get that when I see the movie so I am set. Harry Potter might be good but the director is over rated and I heard he changed a lot so only Gary Oldman can save the movie. Otherwise, why is June 30th so far away!!!

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  • May 26, 2004 7:36:07 PM CDT

    right on, Play D'oh!

    by red raider

    http://members.toast.net/mlc/shytole.jpg

    _____________________________

    Check out the pic in the link above. That about sums up my feelings about Bush. You're right Play D'oh. Come November, Bush must go!

    _____________________________

    THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW will be to left wing, the sky is falling, the end is nigh, tree hugging, dirt munchng druid environmentalists what THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST was to neo-con, right wing, bible thumping, fire & brimstone, hypocritical, christian zealots! They'll line up for multiple viewings in their flops and greenpeace shirts.

    _____________________________

    Perhaps Michael Moore can direct the Day After Tomorrow II and find a way to pin all the environmental disasters on Bush & Cheney. I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR!!!

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  • May 26, 2004 7:36:35 PM CDT

    Global Warming

    by ftbs1322

    I have a question for all of you environmental wackos. How the hell can you guys buy into scientific predications about future global warming when today's scientists can't even accurately predict next week

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  • May 26, 2004 7:50:40 PM CDT

    I thought this was a movie site. . .

    by harry coin

    . . . not a political forum. This site use to be cool, because people use to actually discuss movies instead of politics. So if that's the case, let me throw my two cents in. . . both Democrats and Republicans are fucktard lackeys. There really is no difference between the two parties, because anyone who would actually want the job of being President of these United States is either nefarious or mentally ill. It's not Democrats Vs. Republicans, it's people with power Vs. those who don't have it. Presidents are just puppets for whatever special intrests bought them into the White House. Kerry is no better than Bush; it comes down to choosing your poisin. They may seem different, but the end results are gonna be the same. The government is a huge, lumbering leviathon that is only interested in the self preservation of it's institutions, not really caring about what is in the best interests of the American people. Don't get me wrong, I'm not bitter about the current political scene, but if you want to change things, you have to really understand what your dealing with. Electing a new President isn't gonna make that much difference. You got to start at the bottom by bribing local officials and manipulating political machines and black mailing public officials. That's how you get real change done in this country. And if you don't believe me, ask yourself how Lyndon B. Johnson got a bunch of cousin fuckin, racist southern Senators to support civil rights legislation. IT wasn't cause he said please. But to end this on a positive note, I just saved two hundred dollars on my car insurance. Thanks Geico.

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  • May 26, 2004 8:14:30 PM CDT

    Correction: Great Left Wing RUPERT MURDOCH-FINANCED Shlock

    by artsnob

    I've gotta give the reactionary prick credit ... coming up with a way to make a fortune in his movie division while discrediting global warming and gving his "fair and balanced" news division fodder to skewer liberals with is truly a stroke of genius. Works every time for the millions of dimwits who can't begin to fathom concepts like "reverse psychology" and "agent provocateur." Neocons please note: If you're tired of Harry's politics, would you please start your OWN movie gossip website and get off his case? All of your talkback-clogging vitriolic whining isn't going to get him to change, and there's no reason why he should ... it's HIS website to do with as he pleases. Don't like it? BOYCOTT, dammit!

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  • May 26, 2004 8:20:06 PM CDT

    Yeah this site fucking sucks....

    by cockknocker

    Personally the only reason I come back is for the cool picture of a giant ape with a machine gun in the background.

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  • May 26, 2004 8:30:40 PM CDT

    Ick.

    by horseloverfat723

    Hey I'm all for environmentalism, but the plot of this movie is simply absurd. That doesn't mean that I don't agree with what they're trying to imply with that plot however. I mean, the way we treat the environment and choose commerce in expense for a clean environment is just another symptom of the human disease. But on the other hand, I absolutely REFUSE to support anything by the people that did the American remake of Gojira, and ID4 and Stargate. And if you think this is quality sci fi Harry, wow then you obviously don't read books..or haven't seen Blade Runner. Either that or you're just a douchebag.

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  • May 26, 2004 8:43:19 PM CDT

    I bet Irwin allen never had this kind of trouble.

    by proper

    The effects look good but the human story does't really matter so much.I can watch it once and then catch the effects parts while scanning channels next year.D.Quaid as Han Solo in Innerspace.Dont say that too often.What if Harrison doesn't play ball for future Indy eps.Some jobroni then goes up to George and says"Don't worry.lets get Dennis Quaid now and CGI his face onto Indy's face in the old one's!!"George looks at him Peter Griffin Style and says "Hmm go on"."You know just for continuity" he blusters.George pauses then says"or maybe Tom Selleck.I always wanted him anyway".

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  • May 26, 2004 8:54:15 PM CDT

    OK then, no sand, cactus, horses or saloons

    by tequilaworm

    but a fat man running a website in comparison to topless girls in thongs. I don't smoke, I drink...CHEERS Amigo!

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  • May 26, 2004 9:05:10 PM CDT

    Science Doesn't Support Your Review

    by scott-fs

    (News comes today that increased clouds and particulate matter have led to a darkening of the skies world-wide, lessening any global warming. http://www.nature.com/nsu/040517/040517-7.html)

    The

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  • May 26, 2004 9:08:27 PM CDT

    Lorenzi, Don't Hate Me 'Cause I Saved On My Car Insurance

    by harry coin

    Besides black mailing, LBJ had support from the Illuminati, who's Council of Seven meets yearly in Aspen. The council used to consist of the Queen of England, the Gettys, the Rothchilds, the Rockerfellers, the Morgans, and the Hamilton families. Of course, the real ring leader was Colonel Sanders, who puts an addictive chemical in his fried chicken that makes you crave it fortnightly! That's why LBJ was such a proponent of civil rights, so that economic freedom for Persons of Color would lead directly to a Fried Chicken addiction. The same chemical is added to mayonaise to mind control white people, and MSG is the mind control agent for Asians. Open your eyes people! LBJ was a major stockholder for KFC, so he was increasing his own personal wealth through his nefarious schemes. In exchange for this wealth, LBJ agreed to excellerate the Vietnam War so the various illuminati controlled defense contractors could profit. Don't you see, it all falls into place! Somebody call Michael Moore! THE FRIED CHICKEN SYNDICATE KILLED KENNEDY! KFC AND POPEYES ARE MURDERS, AND THEY ARE SECRETLY CONTROLLING THE COUNTRY ALONG WITH THE ILLUMINATI, THE KNIGHTS TEMPLAR, AND TRISTERO! MY GOD PEOPLE, OPEN YOUR EYES! FRIED CHICKEN IS ENSLAVING US! JUST SAY NO TO BUTTERMILK BISCUITS AND COLESLAW! . . .uh sorry, I skipped my medicine this morning. Know if you'll excuse me, Lyndon Larouche and a giant pickle are trashing my bathroom while snorting coke off of midget prostitutes. Peace out, you no-sense-of-humor-havin, tree huggin, granola munchin, birkenstock wearing, commie lovin robots. Oh yeah, I'm on to this site now. I'll be watching. All of you.

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  • May 26, 2004 9:18:18 PM CDT

    Liberal Science Fiction

    by dalgodaprime

    Okay..I agree. Modern day liberalism belongs in Science Fiction. It's really the only place it makes any sense.

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  • May 26, 2004 9:23:36 PM CDT

    Cheesy Sci-fi flick promotes liberal agenda and this is good?

    by tile_mcgillus

    So by ridiculing the president in an asburd unrealistic environment a good point is made? Im sorry but that is just Bullshit. Whatever your political affiliation you have to realize that is absurd. It is not as if this Orwellian high art, it is a hollywood summer blockbuster with an agenda. Fuck that and fuck this movie. If I wanted politics I would go see Farenheit 911. Hollywood trying to school me on politics is always hilarious though...they are just sooooooo smart and partisan!!?!?!?!?!

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  • May 26, 2004 9:47:09 PM CDT

    It ain't a cataclysm you geeks need fear

    by tomvee

    I am a newspaper editor and a story we ran this week indicates the ocean will rise by about four feet by 2080--which for most of you geeks, isn't that far off. I will be dead by then, because I am in my early 50s, but most of you are half my age or even a third my age. So watch out come 2080. You will want to move inland. I live in the hills of Connecticut, by the way. Never trusted the seashore. Or L.I. Sound, as much as I love it.

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  • May 26, 2004 9:55:01 PM CDT

    Glad you liked the movie Harry, but I'm still not plunking down

    by johnnytremaine

    If you look at a movie poster for D.A.T. closely and read between the credit lines, it says, "Wait for it on HBO".

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  • May 26, 2004 10:05:57 PM CDT

    forget the politics and envronmental theories, this movie will S

    by greyspecter

    come on Haryy, get a clue. this movie looks so bad, i wouldn't watch it if it was on TV. you guys who waste yourm money on this deserve the frickin' headache you'll receive. and that guy who complained about Soul Plane and this flick, do you even screen what movies you go to anymore? 3 seconds into the preview of either film i could have told you it would have been retarded. so go see the Day After tomorrow you leftists, inflate the box office counts and brag about the national swell supporting these theories. i think i'll go read Ishmael again if i want the same message. at least it's well-written.

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  • May 26, 2004 10:24:46 PM CDT

    People who think Rush is a scientist won't like it

    by regnadkcin

    ...because he tells them not to.

    But if you get your science from the radio or from movies, you're a loser anyway.

    Science fiction is the boundary-pusher and if the pace of global climate change is accelerated for entertainment value, then you need to judge it as just that, entertainment.

    Go peddle your reactionary pseudo-science elsewhere where people want to read bumper-sticker rants.

    I want to see the ocean pour over big cities!

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  • May 26, 2004 10:24:51 PM CDT

    its pouring outside

    by meatmushroom

    I'm a Republican and i loved this movie and this site and a I'm sorta fond of Harry.

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  • May 26, 2004 10:53:13 PM CDT

    repeat after me liberals: FICTION

    by rook187

    THe guy made ID4 was that real? NNOOOooooooo. So why does everyone think this is real? Hell if Ted Danson was right back in 1993 the Earth's oceans should be dried up by now.

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  • May 26, 2004 10:53:46 PM CDT

    politics on this site

    by hal05154

    Jesus, Harry, why not just plaster "Kerry for President" as the header for this site and get it over with.

    As for the President not having a clue at 9/11... Oh sorry, you didn't REALLY come out and say that, did ya... well, a crapload of us out here think he did just FINE...

    Personally, I thank god every day the GORE wasn't in the White House that day.

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  • May 26, 2004 11:05:20 PM CDT

    I wonder if........

    by jimmy jazz

    Irwin Allen ever had problems with ideological fuckwits grabbing on to HIS movies and critiquing them for political content. Get a life, you fucking losers. As for the "Global Warming" thing, I don't know what's causing it, or if there is anything we can do about it, but it's obvious that there is SOMETHING seriously fucked up happening. Up here where I live, we have gotten THREE tornadoes in the last three months for the first time in state history. Big ones too.

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  • May 26, 2004 11:10:10 PM CDT

    Movies, Politics, And This Website

    by mr.toast

    Ahhhh, I remember the good old days of coming here, posting, a small flame war here and there, reading some seriously cool shit, good discussions about movies. Yep, that's right - MOVIES. Those days are gone and what you see now instead of folks actually talking about movies and having a good time is nothing short of a fat, greasy, steaming pile of shit that has suffocated the life out of this site...

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  • May 26, 2004 11:16:12 PM CDT

    TheEnigmaII is right.!! WAY RIGHT!!

    by islander

    Where do people get the idea that we have the power to destroy the planet. Mother nature is one tough broad. You can try to screw with her, but she will screw back. And in the end she always wins. If you do not believe me then tell me when that was not true. OH! and I love disater movies and I will be seeing this one.

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  • May 26, 2004 11:25:07 PM CDT

    Biting Stylez....

    by proper

  • May 26, 2004 11:49:00 PM CDT

    Save a Tree.... Burn a Liberal!

    by kazzam_15

    It was warmer during the Middle Ages than today. Global warming is a liberal enviromental conspiracy. If there is hate in your heart let it out! Don't let the liberal media tell ya how to feel! In GOP we trust!

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  • May 26, 2004 11:51:23 PM CDT

    Left Wing vs Right Wing

    by seven higgins

    You know there are more then two ideologies. Stop basing your opinions on whatever blowhards like O'Reilly, Moore, Limbaugh, and Franken spoon feeds you mindless pricks. You people deserve a life of servitude since you can't think for yourself. I will pray to Jesus, to send alien warlords to descend from the stars and rule all your asses. 50 years of backbreaking slave labor building Pyramids should set you right.

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  • May 27, 2004 12:02:46 AM CDT

    Stop giving us propoganda films

    by jbinminot

    I was not impressed by the pro-ally films of WWII and I hate propoganda films today. Don't you people realize that conservatives like to go to movies too?

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  • May 27, 2004 12:07:57 AM CDT

    Movies at the multiplex are for entertainment

    by jbinminot

    If I wanted to hear about politics I will stay home and watch tv debate shows. I am tempted to stay home from this movie because I am sick of hearing how much which politician sucks. Just let me have an escape but this film obviously won't let me do this. Your positive review of this movie cannot be trusted as you only like it for the politics.

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  • May 27, 2004 12:13:33 AM CDT

    Thank you for the KKK nomination

    by seven higgins

    I am sure I would be the first Black and Puerto Rican Klan Member ever.

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  • May 27, 2004 12:28:48 AM CDT

    Good call on the Austin film community!

    by drakeavenue

    Austin is a truly beautiful town.

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  • May 27, 2004 6:21:13 AM CDT

    Earth vs. The Humans

    by jackin_joe

    Enigmall is right on one aspect: Those of us that think we are really harming the Earth with our polluting and littering ways are ignorant.

    For one thing, it is highly egotistic to think that we humans can do more harm to the Earth than the damage caused by asteroids, meteors, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, tidal waves, etc.

    Our actions only hurt ourselves and the rest of animal life. The Earth couldn't give a fuck.

    We are the dominant lifeform on the planet now. 65+ million years ago, it was the dinosaurs. Before them, it was all the little fishies in the ocean.

    10,000 years after we are extinct, the Earth simply regenerates the ozone and heals itself. It is a closed system. The ozone doesn't dissapate into outer space. The oxygen atoms that make up ozone are still there, just in different molecules. A new lifeform takes over for humans when we are gone. Human remains become the new fossil fuel for the dominant lifeform.

    This new lifeform begins teaching its children "here are some old Earth creatures that called themselves Humans. They fucked up the Earth and are now extinct."

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  • May 27, 2004 6:30:29 AM CDT

    SCIENCE IN THIS MOVIE PULLED A BUSH - IT WENT A.W.O.L.!!!!!

    by stomp1234

    Bush is such a coward.

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  • May 27, 2004 10:14:18 AM CDT

    I have a plan to solve the global warming problem:

    by fluffyunbound

    We start by reducing the world population to somewhere between 300 million and 500 million. This will be a bit of a dislocation, but we can get it done if we are willing to gen-engineer SARS into something with a slightly bigger sack. Once the population is down, we move the remaining world population to North America, and let the other continents revert to a wild state. It wouldn't be a "natural" state, per se, since it would take some time for the ruins and all those bodies to decay, but at least that would stop the bleeding. I haven't decided yet if we will want to reduce the new North American population to a lower cultural level or not. We might want to consider it. But we could at least try switching to nuclear and renewables for actual electricity generation, and just take apart the auto transport system - we will want to push most of those people into cities anyway, so they won't need cars. We can probably keep 90% of the survivors in cities as a labor force, give them 750 square feet of living space each, no cars, basic food rations, etc. Sort of like a THX-1138 existence, with just enough more autonomy to keep them creative. If we balance it right we should still get the occasional musician or poet out of that population. Maybe 5% of the population can be devoted to agriculture, and we make the remaining 5% a ruling elite, intermarrying and associating only within its own ranks, trained up for military pacification and adminstration of the other 95%. The elite have access to transport, even occasionally to the continents that have gone feral, but no one else does. Other than the space we need for the estates of the rulers, we let the suburbs fade back into forest. After 30 or 40 years the North American biosphere will actually be doing OK with that general land-use pattern. Not as well as the other continents, but it will still be an improvement. Personally, I think that would be a lot better than what we have now. There will DEFINITELY not be a global warming problem. Let's start today.

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  • May 27, 2004 4:12:43 PM CDT

    Yeah, well...okay...but is Sela Ward still a hot piece of ass?

    by myglockyourmouth

    Any thoughts?

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  • May 27, 2004 4:24:45 PM CDT

    If the following doesn't scare you Nicole21...

    by pontsing barset

    ... and/or sow at least a seed of doubt in your heart about your beloved president, then you are bug fucking nuts: On the day that George W. Bush was sworn into his second term as governor of Texas, friend and adviser Dr. Richard Land recalls Bush making an unexpected pronouncement. ***
    "The day he was inaugurated there were several of us who met with him at the governor's mansion," says Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission. "And among the things he said to us was, 'I believe that God wants me to be president.'"

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  • May 27, 2004 7:41:14 PM CDT

    Jakin Joe.....

    by proper

    broke it down neatly.

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  • May 27, 2004 9:38:15 PM CDT

    LOL @ Austin being the best place to live in the United States

    by man w no name

    Sorry, but it's still the beach cities in Southern California. We may get a nice earthquake every 15 yrs. But I'll take that over floods and tornadoes, and ridiculous hot weather and humidity any day of the week.

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  • May 27, 2004 11:04:10 PM CDT

    This movie sucked donkey balls

    by lizardo99

    The fact that I saw it for free and on about a half gallon of Sam Adams seasonal brew doesn't change that. Let's ignore the absolute physical impossibility of the climatological havoc and change in the period of time the movie depicts (hey, short attention span theatre is now the norm). It was boring beyond belief. People were walking out of the theatre about an hour into the showing. I was just hoping that at the end when all the Americans went reverse illegal immigrant into Mexico and we got it together, that Cheney look alike President would unleash the shock and awe on Mexico City and we'd make those SOBs sorry they ever put the Alamo to the sword. Now THAT would've ruled.

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  • May 28, 2004 12:57:40 AM CDT

    Yeah, it's funny that, huh Lorenzo?

    by rain_dog

    But that was my point - I don't object to Murdoch because he's "evil" or because he's a corporate success story. I just think he's a nasty prick. Also, way to patronise me by putting my screen name in quotation marks, you pretentious fuckwit. We can't all be named after Italian noblemen - the world would be a boring place indeed.

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  • May 28, 2004 11:17:20 AM CDT

    more ass kissing

    by greatajax

    Harry must have seen Tarantino give the Palm D'Or to Michael Moore, and realized that propogandizing for the left trumps good moviemaking.

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  • May 28, 2004 12:30:37 PM CDT

    IT'S A MOVIE STOP ......

    by meatmushroom

    TAKING IT ALL SO DAMN SERIOUSLY!!!!

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  • May 28, 2004 12:34:59 PM CDT

    Politically Neutral Disaster Movies

    by lewiswetzel

    They should make one about an eruption of the Yellowstone caldera. It's due to blow any time (geologically speaking), and when it does, it will be the biggest eruption the world has seen since Toba in Sumatra blew up 75,000 years ago. Or they could do one about Tenerife in the Canaries splitting in half and falling into the sea. When/if that happens, the resultant tidal wave would race across the Atlantic and take out the east coast of the U.S. Of course, those events would occur regardless of human action, so filmakers couldn't insert any environmental lessons. And BTW: Kyoto was bullshit. It basically gave Third World nations license to pollute - licenses to use or to sell to the First World, as they saw fit.

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  • May 28, 2004 1:45:13 PM CDT

    How about some consistency from the Liberals?

    by mrincredible

    Listen, I really don't mind the Bush-bashing that all you liberals partake in. Really, I don't. This is America and Freedom of Speech is one of the principles that make this country great. But could you at least be consistent? One minute you're attacking Bush because "he did nothing to prevent 9/11", the next minute you're criticizing him because we're taking preventative action by cleaning up the problem in Iraq. Where was Harry and that other fat homo Michael Moore on 9/11? Probably crying on the closet floor with a load of shit in their underwear. Or maybe Moore was trying to figure out which befuddled old man he could attack next...


    Point is this: whether you like him or not, you know where Bush stands on issues, and at least he does what he says he's going to do. Kerry changes his message to suit whatever group he's talking to. Not too different from Hillary "I've always been a New York Yankee fan" Clinton (still can't believe New York state bought into that line of bullshit).

    Why this is even a topic of conversation in a movie review is beyond me. I guess the liberals feel they need to justify their lame choice of presidential candidate.

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  • May 28, 2004 1:51:09 PM CDT

    Total Opposite...

    by charlesbrackett

    I'm sorry but this movie represents everything that's wrong with Hollywood..

    If you guys want to check out something cool, check out the total opposite - a $10,000 movie called EXPIRATION. You can download the RIP through IRC or order DVDs from the website at expiration.ca

    Its not every day a $10,000 movie hits #163 on the IMDBPRO MovieMeter.. Mr Beaks gave the movie a rave on AICN here..
    aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=16123

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  • May 28, 2004 1:57:03 PM CDT

    I recently read in Discover...

    by dark matter

    ...about a leaked Pentagon report that predicts "politically disruptive" climate change within the next decade. Just thought I'd share that with y'all.

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  • You bozos should stop bickering petty politics and read this stunning secret report that was exposed by the Observer: Link ------ http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1153513,00.html ------ WHY was this report covered up by U.S. Defense power-players for FOUR MONTHS? You doubt the veracity of the report? Well, the authors were hand-picked by the PENTAGON: they are Peter Schwartz, a CIA consultant and former head of planning at Royal Dutch/Shell Group, and Doug Randall of Global Business Network. WHY would a guy from freakin' SHELL OIL lie about or distort the horrors of environmental disaster the report reveals??? Learn about the most serious threat to the future of Mankind on a geopolitical, economic, and humanitarian scale, just DOWNLOAD AND READ THE COMPLETE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE PENTAGON REPORT HERE: ------ Link http://cryptome.org/dod-climate.zip ------ Bullshit popcorn movies give only broad and silly examples of the disasters included with sudden climate change ------ BUT YOUR SKIN WILL TRULY CRAWL WHEN YOU READ THIS REPORT. It's a bigger problem than Kerry or Bush could ever manage to solve...... because petty politics and the righteousness of First World countries are likely to prevent anything being done. Can the U.N. really get their shit together and face these issues? Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Will Mankind be smart enough and fast enough to fix the problems before they become irreversible? I say Mankind with a capital "M" -- meaning the responsibility of dealing with this rests on everyone, beyond the scope of your myopic political rants. It's not about the Neocons versus the progressive liberals. It's about all Humans on the freakin' planet dealing with reality. Sheesh.

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  • May 28, 2004 8:54:13 PM CDT

    Accurate Science in Movies?

    by pkahle

    Name one blockbuster movie in which anything in completely accurate... let alone science! As human beings, we cant let the exageration of science in this movie get in the way of understanding the true and very real threat of global climate change that actually exists. Although it is safe to say that the events of the movie will never happen exactly as portrayed, we must understand that global climate change will have a devistating effect in the world causing global war and chaos.

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  • May 28, 2004 8:59:17 PM CDT

    Harry's Review Of "The Day After Tomorrow"...

    by southside_2010

    Ain't Nothing but a plug for that big ole' stinkhole in Texas Called Austin. Fuck Austin, Texas as A matter of fact FUCK TEXAS! Who gives a Fuck where you're from?!?!?! If the big one did come down tomorrow my vote would be to take all the dead bodies and bury them right outside of Fat Fuckin' Harry Knowles Pad! As For the Day after Tomorrow I'll be smokin' on the sweet sweet cheeba. So In Other Words...Kiss The Rings Bitch!!!!!!

    P.S. BTW "The Punisher" Fucking Ruled Ass!!

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  • May 28, 2004 9:08:25 PM CDT

    A Quick Education for Mr. Incredible

    by pkahle

    Dude, how can you say you know where Bush stands on anything. He says he's a compasionate conservative but there's been more sensless death in his presidency than in any other in my lifetime...he says he's a uniter not a divider, but the country hasn't been this divided for over a hundred years. Every reason he gave for going to Iraq was made up. THe country has lost all credibility as a moral leader as a result of the torture which was the product of a complete disregard by this administration for the Geneva Convention and the human rights this country was founded on. Most disturbing is the fact that this president has show more contempt for the constituton than any president in the history of our country. All Americans should be embarassed by what this president has done in our name. People must realize that Bush is pushing the country towards imperialism where we can attact any country we wish without any support, and we only have freedom of speech if it doesn't involve criticizing the president.

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  • May 28, 2004 9:35:10 PM CDT

    Consistency? I'll give you consistency, motherfucker.

    by rain_dog

    "Cleaning up the mess in Iraq"? Who made the fucking mess, you idiot? Iraq is now nothing more than a battle ground for every fucked up fundamentalist ideologue in the middle east to play out their bullshit jihad fantasies - of course it's a terrorist haven now. The problem is, it wasn't before President Mongo went in guns blazin' to smoke out them bad gahs. So, far from solving the world terrorist crisis, your beloved administration made it considerably worse by setting up Saddam as the wellspring of all evil in the world and telling all you right-wing morons that as soon as they got rid of him the world was going to immediately be a better place, as the Middle East embraced western values, and their liberators, wholesale. Guess what? It's worse than before. Now all the fundo crazies are flocking to Iraq to fight the infidel, you guys have done yourselves no favours at Abu Ghraib, and it's looking increasingly like the occupation is going to continue indefinitely (not that I advocate pulling out - you motherfuckers made your beds, you can lie in 'em). Saddam was a bullshit tinpot dictator who posed no threat to the world at large - additionally, he was a bullshit tinpot dictator who acquired what small arsenal of weapons he once had from the United States. I take it you're aware that Donny Rumsfeld sanctioned the gassing of the Kurds that you guys are always using to justify the war? That he handed Saddam the keys to the city of Detroit in the eighties? You're a fool if you think Saddam was any less of an underhanded prick when he was the US's ally. And this is the crux of why the humanitarian argument for the war has never washed with me - you guys on the right of the spectrum, particularly the neo-con subset, simply aren't humanitarians. That lot couldn't give a rat's arse about anything other than the continuation of their own wealth and power. This war was dictated by realpolitik, greed, and a ten-year grudge, not by a deep and abiding love for the Iraqi people, and claims to the contrary are both dishonest and cynical, particularly since the 'liberation' aspect wasn't even brought up until after the WMD claims had started to look, well, had started to look like the gross fabrications they were. Why is it Saddam we took on, not Iran or North Korea? 'Cause he was the one member of the 'Axis of Evil' the Government knew wouldn't be in a position to retaliate. Would they really have telegraphed their intentions for war the way they did to an enemy they knew could retaliate with nuclear weapons in the space of ten minutes? Not even George would be that stupid. The war in Iraq was the climax to a decade-long personal vendetta against Saddam carried by the current cabal of Washington power-brokers. At best, it was a distraction from the real war on terror and an insult to the people of Afghanistan who have been left totally in the lurch after we "liberated" them...outside Kabul, the country is totally fucked, with a resurging Taliban and various other fundamentalist groups still killing ethnic minorities etc, and the embattled government begging for support that the countries that bombed Afghanistan (to find Osama, which worked out real well...) can't be bothered giving. So that's where I stand, and that's why I don't think my views on the war are in any way inconsistent with my view that Bush's obsession with Saddam Hussein blinded him to the dangers of Al Qaeda.

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  • May 28, 2004 11:03:19 PM CDT

    I find it quite refreshing...

    by mr stay puft

    that Harry's ignorance of real life remains unencumbered after all these years. An "obvious parody of a President that was seemingly on Vacation and doing photo-ops whilst crisis hit the country, with no clue how to respond" would refer to the one who responded to the '93 bombing of the trade center with harsh words and law enforcement, or the one who responded to 9/11 by waging an agressive war on terror. Perhaps it was a parody of the president who responded to the bombing of the USS Cole by blowing up aspirin factories and lobbing cruise missles. As for Bush's environmental record; sadly (for liberals) it is better than Clinton's. Don't take my word for it - search for articles written by Gregg Easterbrook of the New Republic (not exactly a conservative viewpoint) and others who will write objectively on the subject. But that wouldn't fit your simple-minded left-wing stereotype, would it. Also please note that the premise behind this movie is as realistic as Mr. Emmerichs other summer blockbuster, Independence Day. It is a work of fiction (consider the sources), and should be cosidered as such.

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  • May 29, 2004 12:23:48 AM CDT

    stinky

    by kiwiklubber

    This film truly sucked. Not only was the script terrible, once again the rest of the world has a chance to laugh at hollywood's fixation on telling us that global disasters only happen to the US. Emmerich being the most notable champion of this - he abducted Godzilla from Japan for heavens sake.

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  • May 29, 2004 9:44:40 PM CDT

    UH OH

    by woodystiffer

    It's the DAY AFTER TOMORROW, so you know all the Neo-Con, Pro-Bush Knuckleheads'll be coming out of the woodwork!!!

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  • May 29, 2004 9:46:15 PM CDT

    IN GOP WE TRUST

    by woodystiffer

    Nice statement moron. Especially since this administration has rolled back environmental protections like no other. When your kids get cancer, or are born with birth defects, don't come crying to us about it dipshit.

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  • May 29, 2004 10:39:54 PM CDT

    Harry, you should watch some Penn & Teller

    by metsrulein2k

  • May 29, 2004 11:53:36 PM CDT

    Fricking Liberals?

    by lobanhaki

  • May 30, 2004 12:03:53 AM CDT

    Fricking Liberals?

    by lobanhaki

    If there's nothing else I love, it's somebody complaining because this site is so overwhelmingly liberal in terms of it's politics. It's called the marketplace of ideas. If you want your ideas to dominate, you have to sell people on your ideas. Now I agree that this movie's science is not all that sound, but it's got a thematic point: When it comes to the environment, it is better to learn humility of your own accord, than have to endure being taught that humility by the impersonal forces of nature.

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  • May 30, 2004 2:14:03 AM CDT

    Bregalad_

    by dark matter

    Right on.

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  • May 30, 2004 3:02:34 AM CDT

    Obviously the president & VP aren't Bush & Cheney...

    by daredevil

    Bush would know how to handle himself in a crisis. An "out to lunch" president better describes the what we would have if one of his rivals were president (either the one he already beat, or the current one.) *shudder* Now wouldn't that be a set-up for a disaster movie all by itself... Besides, the "science" in the movie is very laughable, but it's just a tool to get the movie to the important part, the aftermath, so I don't have too much trouble with it. I do like the fact that it's a survival movie and deals more with the aftermath of the disaster, rather than just the typical disaster movie that is just all explosions and destruction.

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  • May 30, 2004 12:53:13 PM CDT

    ******zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*******

    by geek sodomizer

    come on this is sposed to be amovie sight, if I wanted to read a bunch of twits yell at each other about politics I'd go to CNN.com. Sure there's a political slant to this movie, but, it's also a campy disaster flick, it's sposed to be entertaining over thought provoking. The message is simple, global warming is real, and the fact that the Bush administration claims that it isn't is irresponsible and wreckless... end of story. Did any of you actually see this movie? I did, and I totally agrtee with Quint's review. It was cheesy as hell, but the spectacle of it all was entertaining, overall a good movie if you ask me. The science is a lot closer to fiction than actual science, but what do you expect, it's a special effects driven big-budget summer release, what do you expect?!?!? how boring would golf-ball sized hail be? seriously, give me cg-bowling ball sized hail over realistic hail any day. get over yourselves. o.k. the overhead compartments busting open in the airplane during the turbulance was lame, I mean, come on, that's the first thing they tell you on the plane is make sure they're securely closed! what are the odds that 10 of them bust open during severe turbulence? that was cheesy as hell!

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  • May 30, 2004 12:58:16 PM CDT

    The fiction in Science Fiction

    by emperor-1

    I think everybody trashing the science in this movie are forgetting that this is fiction "based on science." I know that sounds pretty vague, how do you say whether or not something is based on science? If it was accurate 100% in it's science it would be science fact, or a documentary. All political ideals aside, no movie has a moral obligation to be accurate, and if someone is so gullable to change their ideals based on a movie maybe they shouldn't vote, or drive, or hold a job, either. There are special places for people like that. If Emmerich wants to make a summer popcorn movie and put a little plotical jab in it, so be it. Rather than piss and moan, maybe find someone far right willing to spend $150 million and finance his own popcorn film jabbing the liberals. And my last thought, you can be a good republican and not like Bush. I know that's a hard concept for most people, since if you are registered one party or another, you must remail loyal to that party. My mother is as staunch a republican as they get, yet she is distressed. She doesn't want to vote for a liberal, but she can't vote again for Bush. The problem with Bush isn't that he's a republican, the problem with Bush is that he's an idiot, and there are no political boundaries to that. BTW, I am registered as independent, so I vote for the individual, not the party. And to the guy who says he would have cringed had Gore been in office on 9/11, I say, why? Had Gore been in office on September 11, nothing would have happened, it would have been just another boring day. C Ya!

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  • May 30, 2004 9:13:56 PM CDT

    Erm, Nicky...

    by pontsing barset

    ... wasn't it Bush that said, "If you

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  • May 31, 2004 12:14:08 AM CDT

    Pontsing

    by woodystiffer

    Nice POST!!!

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  • May 31, 2004 12:29:26 AM CDT

    HUH???

    by woodystiffer

    Shrek 2 crushed THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW? So.. hmmm... $73 million against $70 million estimated gross is crushing the competition? Perhaps you need to redefine what CRUSHING means dumbass. I skipped Shrek as most likely it's another lame animation that's filled with lame comedic references and basically does nothing more than make the viewer chuckle here and there. The original Shrek wasn't that entertaining and I'm sure the sequel wasn't either... unless you still avidly watch looney toones on Saturday mornings. Sorry... I'm an adult and I'm a bit beyond being fascinated by animation.. be it a two hour feature or a half hour cartoon. Those of you that don't have children and don't have a life.. I pity you. The reason I mentioned children: If you're an adult and have children, I can see your reason for seeing this pic. Otherwise, I don't get it. This picture is fluff. It'll entertain kids, but otherwise... well, it's sad.

    OTHER THAN THAT - the day after tomorrow is excellent. In response to some psycho neo-con postings - it's not LIBERAL propaganda - you idiots are so confused, you don't even know which film to attack. Hey: idiot DUMBYA BUSH PROPONENTS - this is a disaster movie - it's not meant to feature good science, nor is it meant to support a REAL agenda. Be that as it may - you stupid neo-con fucks can take some lessons from this movie: George "Super Dumbfuck" Bush's environmental eradication policy is just simply fucking stupid (how can you morons be so fucking stupid. Honestly, unless you're the CEO of a manufacturing company, how can you be so fucking dumb?). In closing, check out this story posted by the guardian: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1153513,00.html. With an ever-increasing population that consumes an ever-increasing amount of resources... Comeuppance will come sooner or later. Your neo-con fucktards will realize it sooner or later (my guess is that your children will realize it when the planet is fucked to hell)...

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  • May 31, 2004 12:35:28 AM CDT

    Daredevil

    by woodystiffer

    Bush would know how to handle himself in a crisis? Are you fucking serious? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt - have you not watched any of his press conferences? He's a few steps removed from mental retardation!!!

    It's embarrassing for America! You "shudder" at his oppenents, yet you celebrate Bush, who, at best could be described as educationaly challenged, as your president? Are you completely fucking retarded?

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  • May 31, 2004 12:22:00 PM CDT

    thoughts

    by jack burton

    1.This movie looks awful.
    2.Bush is a power mad born-again idiot that happened to surround himself with his daddy's smarter friends. He's a pompous, rich asshole. How you can watch him in his sporadic press conferences and not see that is beyond me.

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  • May 31, 2004 1:30:35 PM CDT

    Fun-e

    by tanith

    I absolutely love to listen to fucking cluless movie geeks rattle on for hours about shit they know nothing about.

    Entertain me some more...

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  • May 31, 2004 5:29:57 PM CDT

    Tanith: You are a lame excuse for a Troll. And Woody?

    by pontsing barset

    Thanks for acknowledging one of my posts, I guess, but geeze, do you ever sound like a joyless tool sometimes. Where did you get the idea that animation is "just for kids"? It was NEVER just for kids, and it isn't now. IMO the best animated films of the last 10 or so years have been more original, ingenious and inventive than 95% of the live action features produced during the same period.

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  • Jun 01, 2004 12:37:48 AM CDT

    What Do You Expect?

    by deejay

    It's interesting that anyone would approach this film with high expectations for anything but its special effects. After all, it's directed by Roland Emmerich. If film awards were given for taking liberties with science, logic, history, human nature and common sense, this guy would have a championship belt with his name on it's plate. After all, he directed "ID4", "Stargate", "The Patriot" and "Godzilla". What's interesting is that he (and Hollywood) didn't recieve such vitriol when they put out pro-American messages in both "ID4" and "The Patriot". "The Patriot," in particular, gave the entire genre of Historical Fiction one of its all-time worst beatings. Here's a message for angry conservatives... his silliness was bound to get you at one point... and, in future films, I'd suspect he'll continue to spread the wealth to other groups. His movies are meant to be fun. If the appropriate mood hits me, maybe I'll go watch this one for that very reason. To think that it's a part of a larger Hollywood propoganda campaign, however, is equivalent to missing the forest for the trees.

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  • Jun 02, 2004 10:14:18 AM CDT

    What Ever Happened to "Reviewing" a Movie?

    by jwolf

    Harry, friendly advice. You're at your best when you are reviewing films for their qualities (e.g. plot, characterization, sound, effects, etc.). But when you veer off onto those political tangants, well, it kind of honks off half the American public for no good reason. If you'd like to start a web site called "AINT IT COOL POLITICS", then fine by me. In the meantime, please try to stick to what you actually know, kay?

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  • Jun 02, 2004 12:11:13 PM CDT

    LORENZO...

    by 3mta3

    is obviously a total asshole to loves to be hated. We love to hate him, etc. Maybe it is a perfect world after all.

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  • Jun 02, 2004 12:14:00 PM CDT

    and...

    by 3mta3

    The reason that SF is overwhelmingly liberal is because SF writers are generally very smart. I mean, could anyone picture Dubya writing anything at all, let alone something cool with aliens and shit? Doubtful. Too stupid. Just like anyone who would support him. Peez oot.

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  • Jun 02, 2004 12:16:50 PM CDT

    and LORENZO...

    by 3mta3

    please learn the fucking difference between "lose" and "loose." Like you needed to prove how fucking retarded you are in ANOTHER way. Maybe if republicans would learn to read and write they would understand the world a little better and wouldn't be such assholes. Education is the answer!

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  • Jun 02, 2004 12:51:47 PM CDT

    That was some review, what?

    by bridgecross

    Forget all this political stuff, what about the fact that Harry still can't write?! Once again we get a rambling, disconnected, review. By the 4th graf I'm nodding off. Harry, PLEASE get an editor, or pass the work on to Moriarty or Herc!

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  • will be all the dead republicans. Especially the ones from this site.

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  • Jun 03, 2004 1:12:47 AM CDT

    Fun eco-fact

    by chaotic blue

    Technically, the Earth is already IN an ice age. It's a fantastically mild one, but we can't call this "regular" weather. The polar ice caps that are so sacrosanct are in fact uncommon occurrences.

    This is not to say that a.) Humans do not imact the ecosystem, or b.) What will be, will be, and that the ice caps may melt and it will all be fine.

    But the melting of the ice caps would happen anyway, and the effects on the earth would be just as drastic, although whether human impact with "greenhouse gases" and whatnot will make it any more traumatic is anyone's guess.

    I regarded this movie as eye candy. I took no ecological morals home with me, though I was happy to see Texas unscathed. I won't say it's the best place on earth (in a place like College Station, there are too many people who will argue that point until they're blue in the face), but hey, it gets spared the worst of it. And snow would be a nice change.

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  • Jun 04, 2004 2:48:39 PM CDT

    Harry, your reputation is...

    by bozemaster

  • Jun 08, 2004 3:13:53 AM CDT

    Dittoheads hate this movie

    by iloveryan

    Rush Limbaugh is upset that this movie is fueling the fears of the environmentalist whackos. Maybe he can give us some of his drugs to calm us down!

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  • Jun 16, 2004 7:55:51 PM CDT

    seen this somewhere before...?

    by irnbru

    I think that TDAT is quite similar to Independence Day. Obviously they're both big epic disaster movies but look a little closer! I kept expecting the homeless guy to start shouting "Little Britches!" at his dog and a big block of ice to land ontop of them! Anyone else think this?

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  • Jun 19, 2004 1:23:16 PM CDT

    Right-wing conspiracy

    by qdog

    This was one of those films that at the end has you feeling like a portion of your life has been wasted, never to return again. What a colossal freaking flop of a movie. The script, acting (except for Ian Holm maybe), plot and overall layout lead me to believe that this film was somehow manipulated by a neo-con producer behind the scenes to discredit legitimate environmental issues and policy.
    Hmmm . . where to start?
    Let's see, crappily computer animated wolves escape from New York Zoo and . . . let me get this straight, instead of going through garbage/leaving the city/eating people streaming out of the city who die and drop by the thousands, they go against all their basic instincts and run up a Russian trawler after our young teenage heros.
    What the hell were they doing there anyway looking for quinine. City of New York, you are in the middle of the biggest freaking metropolitan center in the world, in a library .. look at a map, go to A) Hospital B) Across the street to a CVS pharmacy (or whatever is in the phonebood) for a GAURUNTEED dose.
    And, can I say, LOVE the multiple plots and story lines with not enough time (or skill) to develope ANY of them (say, did Ian and the boys ever kick it or what?). Oh, by the way, if the leader of the free world 'doesn't make it'. probably a good idea to capture that onscreen.
    Any say, why not throw in some other political commentary about the US/Mexican border (gosh, how ironic?) just to make sure that your messages are mixed and obvious (remember the 'Exxon Valdez' in Waterworld anyone?).
    If I wanted to really hammer the environmental movement, this would be the perfect way to do it. Make a poorly written movie that only deals with the issues superficially and attempts to link any legitimate person and scientist concerned with global warming and pollution with this crap. The sad thing is that it could have been so much more.

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  • Jun 24, 2004 1:18:55 PM CDT

    One Other Thing

    by deejay

    Having seen the movie... I'm dissappointed in the reaction it recieved from some partisans. While Dick Cheney *was* portrayed as a heel, such was paltry compared to the fashion Tom Clancy's "OP Center" painted Bill Clinton (which was aired on TV). Seeing as how the monologue in the final sequence wasn't specific to any administration, the political debate was much ado about nothing. By the way... while the film's science was suspect (to say the least), one of it's strong suits was the early dilemma posed to the characters in the library. In many stranded situations, believe it or not, the most critical question you must ask yourself is whether you stay and wait for help or leave. Few films explore this, and it was refreshing to see this done for a change.

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  • Jul 20, 2004 9:21:01 AM CDT

    Script writing at its most basic

    by cooler king

    Why oh why did they insist on having a huge ship simply glide through New York for the simple means of advancing the plot. I am sure there must be plenty of drug stores in New York so why, for the sake of getting some anti-biotics, did they go down this route.

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