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Under the cover of darkness and secrecy last week, M. Night Shyamalan...
Hey folks, Harry here... is it true? I don't know, but it's a helluva delicious rumor. Word has it that last week, under a veil of secrecy... M. Night gathered together his main actors for THE VILLAGE and shot a new ending for the film. --- Now this is where it gets interesting. M. Night knows that his scripts - no matter how secret he tries to keep them... that the EVIL Moriarty has him marked for discovery. That the internet loves to spoil the endings of his films. For the record - That is not my tact. I feel it is the worst thing ANYBODY could do, and wanted to burn Reuters to the ground for doing an end of OLDBOY reveal in a "General News Roundup Article"! Bastards! So here's the thing. Television has been playing with the last minute secret shoot where they shoot the "Real Ending" -- and from the beginning, Moriarty has claimed that the ending to THE VILLAGE was so awful that he couldn't believe that M. Night was possibly serious about that ending. That it was literally the worst thing imaginable. I don't know what it was, because I don't read spoiler M. Night articles... but maybe... maybe that ending was what one in entertainment refers to as elaborate misdirection. Maybe, just maybe we readers should put a little faith in M. Night. Afterall... at least for me, he's made 3 fantastic genre films in a row... and for my theater dollar, he's a helluva showman... especially if he ever frickin' shoots his sequels to UNBREAKABLE! Ahem. Here ya go...
Hey Harry
I'm a daily reader, first time emailer. I don't know if this is news to you guys, but I thought I would pass it on since it did make yesterday's paper, that must make it official.
Seems last week, Night brought William Hurt, Sigourney Weaver, Bryce Howard, and Joquin Phoenix back to good old Philadelphia for a 3 day shoot to film a new ending.
Of course, official spokespeople are denying that, saying it was just a re working of some scenes. But, people involved in this are indeed saying he filmed a new ending.
Maybe he read the ghastly reactions on your site if that was his original ending and felt compelled to re work it.
Well, good luck with all your projects.
Gonzo
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People getting arsey because MNS wants to surprise us as he has with his last 3 films endings? And who can blame him? Especially if there are some assholes out there who want to spoil the film for everyone.
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i think it's probably true. but not because he read what talkbackers on here said. but beacuse he wanted to fool the public like he knew he could...props
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I would love to see the reactions to the people watchin this movie if M Night keeps the original ending. "Crazy White People"
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Just leave M. Night alone. He's made three great movies, and he gets my money no matter what he does.
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May 23, 2004 1:01:53 PM CDT
He's changed to that Joaquin leaves the village the camera pulls
by big bad clone
"Craaaazy fucking white people!"
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May 23, 2004 1:14:40 PM CDT
So, instead of being a shitty film, it will now be a shitty film
by salvatoregravano
Shyalamoron is probably the most overrated pseudodirector alive, thanks to his fansheep. If the crapfest called "Van Helsing" was identical as it is now, but had been directed by him, his fansheep would be praising it now as a masterpiece.
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May 23, 2004 1:20:30 PM CDT
I got an idea for Shamalamadingdong's new movie...its called Bre
by darth sticky
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It now ends with Patrick McGoohan staring into the camera saying: "I am not a number: I am a FREE MAN!"
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Oooh, M. Night is sooo brilliant, he shot another ending to throw people off the track!
No.
If he was so smart about that, he would've shot multiple endings up front or passed out fake scripts and only allowed select crew in on the actual ending (ala what Lucas did in Return of the Jedi).
To bring back the cast, rebuild the sets, and rehire the crew is EXPENSIVE, ESPECIALLY 4 weeks before the movie's release. It's more reasonable to assume that the test audiences thought the movie and ending SUCKED and the powers that be forced a reshoot. HEY M. NIGHT, HERE'S A PLOT TWIST FOR YA, DON'T PUT A PLOT TWIST IN! NO ONE WILL EXPECT THAT! -
Jeez... you know it could be because the old ending did indeed SUCK and he decided to go back and re-shoot it. It's always nice to see Harry defend his girlfriends. Any other director calls back his principals and re-shoots his ending it's because it sucked, but M. Night EgoHead does it and it's because he's a genius and is always one step ahead of the game. Night's jumped the fence anyway because everyone knows going into his films there's some big reveal in the third act that will turn everything before it over, so where's the genius and fun in that?
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May 23, 2004 2:15:11 PM CDT
Signs had the worst laughable science in a sci-fi film in ages.
by fatal discharge
Dumbass aliens to try and invade a planet whose main element, water, is deadly to them....for the sake of a plot twist. I can just hear Shyamalan's thoughts when he wrote it...hmmm, in War Of The Worlds aliens were killed by common cold germs so why not water? And I nearly keeled over laughing at the MAN IN SUIT alien. His films have gotten progressively worse and he's latched on to a formula and won't let go. I'm sick of listening to actors whispering in his films for dramatic effect...speak in a normal tone of voice, dammit! People don't talk that way in real life unless it's in a library. If this film is as bad as some people say, it could rank up there in laugh-out-loud awfulness with Plan 9 From Outer Space.
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Signs had a completely absurd ending. People suffered and died... The world went into panic because of an alien invasion... All because God planned it that way so that in the future Mel would regain his faith? What bothers me about M. Night is his comment that he and Steven Spielberg are the only directors in the world. That's arrogance. Prediction: M. Night will soon be seen as the one-trick pony lame story teller that he is and people will just be bored of him.
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I'm always amazed at all the animosity toward M. Night Shyamalan. This is the kind of vitriol usually thrown at guys like Oliver Stone or Michael Moore. I guess people hate directors who actively try to fuck with the audience? Or is it just because of the twist gimmick? If that were really a problem, there are plenty of writers/directors out there who milk certain plot structures or genres. However, those guys don't achieve the level of success that M. Night has. Personally, I think it's great that guys like M. Night make movies. Positive or negative, how many filmmakers are out there making movies that are worth talking or arguing about?
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The girl in the film states several times that the water was contaminated. I think it follows that dirty water could kill and alien whose biology can't handle it.
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May 23, 2004 2:52:57 PM CDT
Screw "Unbreakable" I've been waiting for a "Remo Williams" sequ
by undercovercrackr
Fred Ward Stars and Wilford Brimley has a supporting role....Need I say more?
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When and where did M. Night say that he and Spielberg were "the only directors in the world"? I recall him saying in an interview that he knew Spielberg's secret to making movies that connect with audiences in a powerful way, something that he wouldn't reveal, but, I don't remember him dismissing the thousands of directors who are currently working or have come before in cinema history.
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You're probably the kind of dopes that liked Van Helsing. I'm not even going to start on how you're fisking of his films is utter stupidity. Some of you guys mindlessly bash his films when it's obvious that you hardly even watched them. I enjoyed Sixth Sense. I liked Unbreakable. Signs was very good. Shyamalan actually does someting that many filmmakers don't bother to dot: He creates REAL CHARACTERS instead of flat stereotypes. The CHARACTERS are central the the story, and we see how they deal with the situation they're put in. That's how movies should be made, and that's how he does them. Pull your heads out of your asses and try to forget that you actually like the usual shit that Hollywood pumps out. You guys are probably the type that own crap like Torque and 2 Fast 2 Furious on DVD. Go watch your formulaic bullshit flicks and leave good filmmakers like M. Night the hell alone.
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Thousands. I don't mind twist endings. I *like* directors who try to push the envelope. You want better movies that push the envelope? Memento, Adaptation, Vanilla Sky. Sixth Sense was OK. Unbreakable would've been a fantasic movie WITHOUT the twist ending (for me it just cheapened the whole thing... The whole movie is Bruce Willis coming to the realization that he just might be a superhero only to have the ending smack him back and say, no he only BELIEVES he's a superhero, hecause he was misled by a guy who wants to be a supervillian. So Bruce Willis transformation is all fake. Whee. Signs was another great attempt lost to the need to perform a twist ending. God leads one through bad times for the greater good shown through the eyes of a lost priest. Great stuff. But c'mon, SWING THE BASE BALL BAT?! The kid didn't die from toxic gas because he had asthma? Water kills the aliens? Then use ALL THREE as a deux ex machina? The Emperor has no clothes! And now another great idea of a movie. An amish type folk trying to deal with monsters in the woods. And what are we aruging about? The plot? The monsters? The depth of the detail of the townfolk? No. The FRIGGIN' twist ending!!! Isn't that just FRIGGIN' SWEET?!?!
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May 23, 2004 3:13:05 PM CDT
I hope so, otherwise this film would be a realistic "Scooby Doo"
by 007-11
"And we would have scared you off your land so we could build our outlet mall, if it weren't for you pesky Amish!". I'd like to congratulate M. Night in advance if this rumor is true, you were able to put one over on the "Napoleon of Crime". No small feat.
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For some reason, I'm reminded of an old SNL sketch, where Star Trek's been cancelled and the TV executives are dismantling the set and Kirk and co. are trying to zap them with their now ineffectual phasers and the suits just chuckle. A great bit, and I think The Village might be JUST THAT FUNNY.
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Bruce Willis was a superhero, that didn't change. We just found out the Samuel L. Jackson was the supervillain that was behind several terrorist attacks to find a superhero to prove his theory of a foil(or polar opposite) to himself. He succeded in his attack on the train that Bruce Willis was on.
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I Googled the sentence you quoted, and a few variations, and couldn't find anything about Spielberg or Shyamalan. You'd figure it would turn up in an interview online, if those guys went around saying it all the time. And, my own statement was in reference to the single full-length interview with the M. Night that I've ever read, in an issue of Creative Screenwriting when THE SIXTH SENSE came out. He seemed so guarded in his statements and secretive in general that I didn't think I would pick anything up from him in suhbsequent interviews and just decided to go see his movies and enjoy them. Either way, the secret you mentioned is still pretty vague. I think it's easier said than done. But, M. Night has apparently succeeded at creating that connection, whether his detractors like it or not.
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Rewatch Signs. He doesn't actually go either way on whether it was a "miracle" at the end. Mel's character certainly believes it's such, but the movie does NOT take an objective stand on the matter. It's just like Mel says midway through, there are 2 kinds of people. The only difference is, at the end of Signs, we see there are THREE kinds of people - because an oddly large number of them saw the ending that would piss them off, rather than the ending that confirms what they believe. Go figure.
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That's the kicker. I chalk it up to luck. He didn't survive the crash because he was invulnerable. He survived out of luck and then a madman tried to convince him that he survived because he was a superhero. (You're allowed to look at it either way, but M. Night's ending confirms that it's a hoax.)
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MEMENTO is as overrated a gimmick movie as has ever been made, and not entirely original. It was directed, acted, and edited well, but the ending (or beginning) is run-of-the-mill corrupt cop stuff we've seen a millions times before. In what way did it push an envelope? Just because it was presented backwards? I saw that on Seinfeld first, and they were directly referencing. VANILLA SKY, though I enjoyed it, is a remake of another movie that was a Philip K. Dick rip-off. Well-directed, well-produced, well-acted, but the only envelopes it pushed were Tom Cruise's and Cameron Crowe's. It wasn't their stereotypical vehicle. Otherwise, it's basically TOTAL RECALL. And, speaking of PKD-influenced movies - ADAPTATION is a great film, but if you think Charlie Kaufman isn't consistently working within his own sub-genre the same way M. Night is, then I think you're snowing yourself. So far, I haven't seen a single Kaufman film that wasn't designed to be a mind-fucker in some way, or didn't at least feature his trademark brand of quirkiness. You may like one guy's gimmickry better than another's, but in the end, a gimmick isa gimmick is a gimmick, and all these guys we're talking about have used them.
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You're outright ignoring his surviving the car crash when he was younger as well as his abilities. If he wasn't a "superhero" (In quotes because he really wasn't, at least in the traditional sense), then how was he able to see things about people by touching them? We know that his visions were accurate because he sees the psycho bust into the house, then goes to the house and rescues the kids. Try watching the movie.
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There's no such thing as a movie that doesn't follow some kind of formula anymore. When I say formulaic, I'm talking about movies that use a formula without bringing anything new with it. Shyamalan does use some consistant ideas, yes, but his movies have been quite different so far. Like I said, the guy focuses on the characters. Signs could have been a big-budget, ID4 CGI-fest, but it wasn't, because Shyamalan just showed us one family's experience through the whole thing and only used CGI when it advanced the story. How often do you see that in Hollywood, where people use CGI out the ass because they can do huge action scenes and make things look pretty? All three of his movies have done a great job of creating suspense and tension, but yes, some more so than others. There were several moments in Signs where the audience jumped, like the alien at the birthday party and the alien in th TV reflection. You look at them and think that they're just simple little shots, but Shyamalan knew just how to do them. You talk about his "big secret" that he shares with Spielberg, and that's it's no big secret. You're right, it's not. But it's not what you do, it's HOW YOU DO IT. Any bonehead with a camera can try to make the real fantastic and the fantastic real, but few can actually do it RIGHT, and Shyamalan is one of those few.
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You may want to change you name. I have never heard anyone proclaim their ignorance with such conviction. You should be ashamed of yourself sonny.
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Didn't finish a statement. The backwards episode of Seinfeld was directly referencing Harold Pinter. The point is, MEMENTO wasn't that earth-shakingly original.
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Night makes films with no stereotypes? REALLY? A priest who has lost his faith who needs a miracle to reel him back in? A "superhero" who's a nobody who is suddenly made into a somebody? A buncha quacks listening to a Koresh type keeping them away from technology and modern life to live in the woods? No, you're right, that's all completely original. Dude, you need to get a life and let people like what they want. Some people dig the shit out of MAGNOLIA and some don't. Some people love MASTER AND COMMANDER and some don't. Some think RETURN OF THE KING was not the greatest film of the last year and some do. Is someome wrong there? Nope. It's all opinion. But one things is true, M Night ShittyRipOff does not make original flicks.
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Watch the deleted scenes on the DVD. They show Bruce Willis lifting weights in the weight room at the university where he works. All of the football guys are in there, and Willis quietly keeps adding weight to his bench press, to the level of ridiculous proportions. Finally he sits up, and the entire football team is quiet and looking straight at him, going, "What the #@#$$!!!" That may not have made it to the movie, but it's one of the best cut scenes I've ever seen, and it proves Willis' character's superhuman strength.
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I actually read it here in ain't-it-cool. It was around the time of Unbreakable. The article said it was quoted in an interview. Don't remember if was a magazine or in-person forum.
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They were in the movie. He bench pressed 400 lbs. (They don't say, but the large plates are usuall 100lbs and he had 4 of them) Not your typical average joe strength, but not an impossible level for a human. Like most of M. Night's movies, you see what you want to see in them. Some people see the ending as validation of Bruce being a superhero. I see it as validation that he's NOT.
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Sorry, that ending could be interpreted as anything but a "miracle." All that so Mel can regain his faith? What gives Mel's character such a special place with God that the world goes through that just for him? I guess it comes from that mentality of celebrities when they win awards and they thank God for giving them personally the award. I have seen Signs many times over. The first time I watched, I wondered if I saw the movie correctly then watched it again. Same conclusion. M. Night should take lessons from a real director of suspense like Alfred Hitchcock.
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...what about the visions he gets at the train station? I still don't understand what you base your hoax theory on.
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Okay, the scene was in the version of the movie I Tivo'd off of Starz last week... IN the gym, WITH the students looking on afterwards.. Not at his home... So either Starz has taken to showing re-edited movies or it was in the original cut. SECOND, it doesn't matter. I, obviously, saw the scene to which you were referring and I still think it supports my position. It doesn't prove he's a superhero. He survives 2 car crashes, and lifts 400 lbs. Ooh. He doesn't deflect bullets, he doesn't leap over tall buildings with a single bound, he doesn't have mutant powers. He's a repressed individual who could've done greater things with his life, but didn't because of his own internal fears. That's what the whole scene with his wife talking about his football playing career was about. Remember? He was going to be a great football star, but he didn't because he was afraid of losing his first love. Her. And that set off a chain reaction of other fears from that. Fears that he overcame because he THOUGHT he was a superhero. But that's apparently too intelligent a concept for your typical talkbacker. Because I'm just an idiot and he was really a superhero! Cape and all.
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"You know how to spot the villain in a comic book, BROTHER?" He's the exact opposite of the hero, BROTHER, and most of the time they're friends, BROTHER......they called me Mr. Glass....BROTHER."
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May 23, 2004 5:48:50 PM CDT
While we're at it, how about HULK HOGAN in a sequel to "Brother"
by notchjohnson
How about HULK HOGAN in a sequel to Beat Takeshi's gangster film, "Brother?" "If you kill him in a shot, he'll give you 10 bucks, BROTHER."
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The visions, Skywise, what about his visions?
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Loooooosers, you nerds are judging a movie on a fucking script that hasnt even been officialy confirmed to be real? Oh man and now that the movie is getting a new ending you still bitch and moan? You guys need a life seriously, get out once in awhile.
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May 23, 2004 5:57:18 PM CDT
where is a good place to read new scripts? can anyone help me?..
by johnny filmmaker
mostly, i REALLy wanna read the script fopr the new Crow movie. I am a huge Crow fan, and there has barely been ANYthing on the new movie....wether its going to theaters or to DVD..no trailers...hardly any pictures on the net, and when there are, they are pulled off...i REALLY wanna find the script. The book it was loosley based on was actually good.....can anyone help a brother out?
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I thought the weakest ending of all M. nights films was Signs.The aliens were stupid looking and not remotely scary.
Signs had some great ideas, like the alien invasion through tv especially the scene were joaquin phoenix is watching the footage of the alien walking throught a kids birthday party in new mexico on the news rogramm on tv in the closet inside the house.
Signs was all build up and no delivery.
M Night is a gimmick film maker. His gimmick is the twist ending. All the twisty endings in his films are now dated.
His next film will not have a gimmick and that will be the end of him.
Hollywood will always want him to to do the same thing in all his films.
Once he stops making twisty films Hollywood will just discard like an unsed toy.
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May 23, 2004 6:11:39 PM CDT
YOU ARE CARZY!!! I'd like to see your faces, when thousands of C
by lord_soth
... and Joaquin Phoenix's last sentence is: "Oh, dear!"
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I've enjoyed his last three films. I used to think Unbreakable was his weakest effort of the three, but after having viewed it repeatedly over the last coupls of years I've come to appreciate it as his finest film to date (despite the horrible end text resolving of the story). As for the "science" of Signs, I really think it shouldn't be scrutinized as seriously as a lot of you seem prone to. The whole alien invasion theme is merely a device to tell another story. We might as well start bitching about loud spaceships and ".5 past lightspeed" in Star Wars.
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All his movies have to do with bonding families or relationships together, the thriller part is to give the movie some action to it, Ubreakable had to do with Willis bonding with his wife and son. Signs had to do with Gibson getting over his wifes death and coming to his senses about things. Sixth Sense had to do with Hally Joel and his mom having a connection with one another and Willis getting over the fact that he's a ghost.
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May 23, 2004 6:56:06 PM CDT
I'd be perfectly fine with the red cloaked outsiders just being
by 007-11
Based on the footage i've seen, he has a perfectly good movie on his hands without any twists. Hopefully it all works out though.
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Bruce Willis is really dead...every 5th Twilight Zone. The aliens are killed with a common element...War of the Worlds. Sam Jackson cause the accidents...can't think of an example but since he was practically the only other character in the film, not hard to figure out. The Sixth Sense was good but the other 2 could have each been 45 minutes long. Skywise, what about his clairvoyance? I'm so sure his powers were real that I can almost guarantee he says so in the DVD commentary.
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Christ, I need to remember to spell EVERYTHING out for some of the goddamn mongoloids in this talkback. There is no such thing as a completely original film/character/story anymore. That's obvious. EVERY SINGLE DAMN CHARACTER IN A MOVIE will have some stereotypical characteristic. The trick is throwing enough originality into the mix to make it somewhat fresh and interesting, which is what Shyamalan does. He actually developes his characters to the point where we can see that they're unique. Seriously, if you can't see that Shyamalan's work is better than at least 75% of the recycled crap out there, you need to get out more. Or perhaps get out less and watch more movies.
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The aliens were so technologically advanced that they relied on it too much and they're bodies immune systems couldn't handle they mundane bacteria from the water. In War of the Worlds it was the bacteria in the air. Movies are so horrible today that any film that some feel doesn't completely suck is automatically BRILLIANT, CLASSIC, VISIONARY, etc. The only film of Dingdong's that I have enjoyed was Signs because it had some funny dialogue. His movies were not suspenseful to me. The "twists" are not worth the build up and I figured them out in like the first 10 minutes or less and were not worth the hype. Spielberg, Shyamalan and Tarantino are the most overrated directors out there. They make the same types of movies over and over. I believe that he re-shot the ending because it probably does suck. Everyone knows his twist is coming so he now has to deliver. Him being ahead of the game is bullshit. Time is money and you don't shut down production and fuck up everyone's schedules unless something is wrong.
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The Sixth Sense was a good film, but his other two have been less than good, and Signs was lousy. Batting one for three is good in baseball, but not in Art. His films make lots of money though (like Adam Sandler movies), so he will keep putting out crap that the retards will pay to see.
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Harry how the fuck can you say that spoiling the movie is not your rhetoric when you spoiled the name of the Bride in Kill Bill Volume 2 in your review of the film which you saw weeks before the general public??? Clearly you don't remember this. I however, do. My friends do, and I'm sure everyone who cares to read your articles on this site certainly do. You might as well give us the ending to the movies that you are producing right now and get it over with. Unlike you we don't like our movies spoiled. You might as well go and spoil all the endings for all the summer movies while you are at it! Normally, I'll support what you say about certain things, but you have truly tripped over your own words this time. Ass.
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Harry how the fuck can you say that spoiling the movie is not your "tact" when you spoiled the name of the Bride in Kill Bill Volume 2 in your review of the film which you saw weeks before the general public??? Clearly you don't remember this. I however, do. My friends do, and I'm sure everyone who cares to read your articles on this site certainly do. You might as well give us the ending to the movies that you are producing right now and get it over with. Unlike you we don't like our movies spoiled. You might as well go and spoil all the endings for all the summer movies while you are at it! Normally, I'll support what you say about certain things, but you have truly tripped over your own words this time. Ass.
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or even an important plot point?
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Like it matters what her name is. Also, before reviews he puts SPOILER. Thus you got spoiled.
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The red markings the village people see on their doors are eviction notices. A pickup truck pulls up and they freak out cuz they've never seen one. M. Night Sham-a-lot gets out of the truck, shakes his fist and exclaims, "crazy fuckin' white people!" Fade to black.
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Unbreakable was about him being a superhero , This wasn't a film that you can define for yourself like the matrix was, he was a superhero plain and simple, its why he survived the train wreck without a scratch and was never sick, thats not your average joe
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He has above average strength, but it takes an extreme effort. And maybe a human could press 400+ lbs, but you could probably guess by looking at him. he wouldn't look kinda average like Willis. Add in the "nigh invulnerability", the ESP to ID criminals and you've got a "super hero." I'd agree that he seems more mundane than Superman, more like a notch above "normal" humans. It's odd that you find a hero that is more like a normal person to be less believable than a guy from another planet who flies around town in a cape.
Also, for people criticizing the science in Signs: I don't see it as sci-fi; it's another supernatural film. Only this time the supernatural elements deal with God and Christian faith. If the science was bad, I didn't mind. The science in Frankenstein is also bad (you can't reanimate a corpse as far as I know) but it doesn't invalidate the story. Also, I read an earlier post that had the point of the film sorta backwards from my perspective: The aliens don't invade to give Mel his faith back - his faith helps him and his family survive. It is a deus ex machina sort of thing, I guess, but it wasn't just a convenient way to wrap up the problem or provide an easy ending. God saved Indiana Jones from the Nazis at the end of Raiders, so why can't he save this guy and his family? -
...I once had a moronic film professor who ignored the superhero theme entirely and thought it was an "angel versus devil" film, with Willis as an angel sent to fight Jackson's devil. Whatever. The Christ aspect is there, but it's first and foremost a superohero story.
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May 24, 2004 12:28:25 AM CDT
Am I weird to think Chronicles of Riddick might be pretty good?
by slone13
I don't think I am...
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Your "moronic" professor might not be too far off the mark if he wasn't a comic book reader. Joseph Campbell calls it the "Hero" myths and includes Christ in them. They both do "miracles", they both save people. They're icons for people to look up to and mimic. The implication being that the messiah stories are just early versions of "Superman" (Though Unbreakable is obviously about Superheroes... otherwise, why bother with all the comic book references. My argument is still that he wasn't a superhero, but that we can ALL be heroes if we just believe ourselves to be. And the ending, screws that up because it implies that if you be a super good person, you'll invoke super good evil.)
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What...about...the...visions? If everyone else is so stupid and you're so smart it should be fairly easy to explain them away. Knock yourself out.
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The visions.
He spots trouble.. He says it himself that it's part of his training as a guard but that he's always had a sixth sense about it. He walks down the street, now in "superhero" mode, he sees some suspicious activity and UNLIKE every normal joe who's to busy with their life to care, he takes a look see and stumbles upon the crime scene. He doesn't "envision" the scene. He doesn't wake straight up with the destination in hand, he stumbles across suspicious activity. I don't chalk it up to some sort of clairvoyance or spidey sense. It's the same as when you walk into a room and get the feeling that something is out of place. Look, the ending is this: Samuel Jackson's character needs to validate his horrible, screwed up life by believing he's a super villian. The only way that can work is if he can find a superhero. The villian MADE Bruce (and us the audience) believe that he was a superhero just to validate himself. It's not rocket science people.
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...was when Bruce Willis has to go back and look at his employment record to see if he ever took a sick day. Did he really have to look at the record? Was he the first superhero with Alzheimers? I liked the movie overall, but that (and the weak ending) almost broke Unbreakable.
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i just love this shit from the people who think they're above the directors. granted Night's twist ending are getting to be annoying but, fuck with movies like van fuckingturdwasteoftwofuckinghours hellsing coming out, Night could shit a film out and i'd still watch. and for all those dumbshits who complain about unbreakable
point a. faggots its supposed to be a real superhero story
b. fuck your spiderman cgi
c. the characters that where established where physically and mentally opposite each other. IE willis and jackson.
d. and the fucking scene where elijah is in the comic book store fucking rules alls.
fuck you all
every director has a bad movies doesn't mean he is one.
maybe except for the fucker thats doing alien vs. predetor.
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M. Night Shyamalan SAYS that David Dunn is a Superhero. What more do you need than the writer/producer/director saying that?
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the people that hate movies thast are slower with a great art of storytelling are the same people who love MUmmy Returns, TOmbraider, or van hesling......cause they have a high school intellect or are indeed in high school.....M night makes you think and his stuff is good not great but good enugh to get my $$
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The whole concept of making a sequel invalidates your theory that he's not a superhero. Why would they make a sequel if he was just tricked into thinking he was a superhero? You're an idiot.
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"He doesn't "envision" the scene. He doesn't wake straight up with the destination in hand, he stumbles across suspicious activity".... Obviously, the "special" edition of this film you say you saw on Starz had cut the scene of Dunn in the train station where he quite lucidly envisioned a number of very specific crimes just by touching people.
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I feel everyones comments on signs , sixth sense are all a little harsh. At the end of the day the mans made more money than all of us put together. Who are we to comment. Supurb scripts, direction, and cast.
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May 24, 2004 5:15:41 PM CDT
They were just shooting the various Taco Bell, Toys R Us, Nokia
by randfilms
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May 25, 2004 12:23:21 AM CDT
According to Bryce Howard in this month's Cinescape, THE VILLAGE
by frankdrebin
...1897. So it's unlikely that the "monsters" are construction workers. Unless M just told the actors that, so they wouldn't use any modern mannerisms.
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In "Unbreakable" there is a scene with Bruce Willis in the basement lifting weights with his son of about 400 lbs. On the DVD there is a cut scene of Bruce in a college weight room in which Bruce's son adds weight till the bar is bending with over a 1000 lbs of weight on it and the football players have all stopped their workouts in disbelief. 400 lbs = human (maybe) 1000 lbs = superhuman.
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Skywise having just watched the DVD of the film I can paraphrase an interview with M. Night where he says he did a G. Lucas and initially wrote a much larger story about a 'realistic' account of an average man becomming a super-hero, but said he didn't want to just skim over the origin-story and thus made that the film (or first film, thus the sequel rumours). I'm all for multi-interpretations of movies but I think your reading is the one M. Night was using as a red-herring of sorts for most of the film - we were supposed to, like Bruce Willis' character, be in doubt as to if he really had powers or not - it was certianly a possibility up until the 'vision' scene where it was revealed his instincts about people were much more than that. The whole film is about what it could really be like if you discovered you were a superhero (no gamma-radiation blasts, no flashy costumes etc.)- much like Signs was a film about what an alien invasion might be like (as opposed to, say, Independence Day). Thus your arguments about the things Willis can do in the film seeming 'above average but possible' is kind of the point.
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I wasn't calling my professor moronic because of the "angel/devil" idea (although Elijah is less of a devil and more of a stand-in for the Biblical Elijah -- it's actually kind of eerie), but because he ignored everything about comic books in the film, like you said. I realize that he's not far off from the mark, but he's kind of ignoring a good 85% of the film.
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I wasn't calling my professor moronic because of the "angel/devil" idea (although Elijah is less of a devil and more of a stand-in for the Biblical Elijah -- it's actually kind of eerie), but because he ignored everything about comic books in the film, like you said. I realize that he's not far off from the mark, but he's kind of ignoring a good 85% of the film. Good film professors don't do that. Then again, he was fairly stupid in several ways other than this.
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...sorry about the double post, there. Accidentally clicked the 'post' button too soon.
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M. Night=1 Trick Pony. And that trick is old. But, fortunately for him, always on budget.
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