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Published at: May 21, 2004, 5:39 p.m. CST

I am – Hercules!!

Former “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” and “Angel” scribe Steve DeKnight (he co-scripted the hilarious Italy-set “Angel” that aired two weeks ago) is headed to “Smallville,” according to kryptosite.com. He follows in the footsteps of fellow ex-“Buffy” scripter Drew Z. Greenberg, who migrated to “Smallville” one year ago.

For those keeping track, here’s where this season’s “Angel” writers have landed so far:

* Drew Goddard (DeKnight’s co-writer on “The Girl in Question”) is headed to “Alias.”

* Jeff Bell (Joss Whedon’s co-writer on the spectacular just-aired “Angel” series finale) is also headed to “Alias.”

* Liz Craft & Sarah Fain (they scripted Hamilton’s introduction in the five-star “Underneath”) have been asked to join “The Shield” (created by fellow “Angel” vet Shawn Ryan).

* Buffiverse mastermind Joss Whedon, who wrote more “Angel” teleplays this season than ever before, will nex season for the first time in eight years have nothing to do with televised entertainment. He is days away from make his feature directorial debut with Universal’s big-screen “Firefly” movie.

* No definitive word yet on David Fury (“You’re Welcome,” “Power Play”) or "Tick" mastermind Ben Edlund (“Life of the Party,” “Smile Time,” “Time Bomb”), but one hears Edlund is being hotly pursued by one of the most promising new series of the coming season.

If you, constant reader, have heard of any employment motion among the other Buffiverse writers, drop us a line. For this just-concluding season Jane Espenson was at “The “Gilmore Girls”; Tim Minear at “Wonderfalls,” David Greenwalt at “Jake 2.0,” Rebecca Rand Kirschner at “Las Vegas,” Marti Noxon at (the still unaired Fox drama) “Still Life,” Doug Petrie at “Tru Calling,” and Mere Smith at “Tarzan.”

I am – Hercules!!





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  • May 21, 2004, 5:48 p.m. CST

    FIRST!!

    by DietCodeRed

    FIRST!!!

  • May 21, 2004, 5:53 p.m. CST

    by GreyMattre

    Hope this beefing up of the writing staff helps de-suds this show....it works when they're "advancing the mythology", when they're not, it's just another teen-angst model-fest.

  • May 21, 2004, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Sunnydale to Smallville

    by GreyMattre

    Hope this beefing up of the writing staff helps de-suds this show....it works when they're "advancing the mythology", when they're not, it's just another teen-angst model-fest.

  • May 21, 2004, 6:09 p.m. CST

    The Italy-themed Ep was hilarious...

    by amrcanpoet

    But Smallville still sucks balls.

  • May 21, 2004, 6:36 p.m. CST

    Well

    by zer0cool2k2

    Smallville and alias should both be better for Angel's demise. Of course, if these shows become too smartly written, they will of course be cancelled.

  • May 21, 2004, 6:45 p.m. CST

    A matter of perspective

    by neemz

    Joss Whedon, who wrote more

  • May 21, 2004, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Smallville's Producers Suck

    by Eshu

    Come on... it doesn't matter if joss Whedon himself is on the Smallville writing staff, that show's nutless producers would find a way to ruin it.

  • May 21, 2004, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Edlund is being hotly pursued by probably the most promising se

    by Gheorghe Zamfir

    And that series is?

  • May 21, 2004, 7:40 p.m. CST

    What's with FIREFLY?

    by Mircalla

    As a long standing fan of Buffy and Angel, but with NO access to television, am wondering whether Firefly is GOOD enough for a movie? Didn't it get cancelled? Sorry, picked up on Buffy season 5 and needed DVD's and (eek) downloads to catch up. Why is JW going towards a Firefly movie and not finally adapting BTVS to the big screen the RIGHT way?

  • May 21, 2004, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Also...re: ALIAS...

    by Mircalla

    I recently read that Sydney has a sister that is the KEY to the Rimbaldi something or other. Seems like a blatant Buffy rip. Haven't watched Alias since 2nd season, guess I missed a LOT. How come Dawn is now Sydney's sister???

  • May 21, 2004, 8:51 p.m. CST

    My guess is "the most promising series of the coming season" Ben

    by Kungfumanchu

    If not that soon-to-be comedy classic,then Lost or Global Frequency. Right,Herc?

  • May 21, 2004, 9 p.m. CST

    Oh,& Ubergeek37, just want to let you know I'm prepared to stand

    by Kungfumanchu

    you know,just in case you miss with the knife.

  • May 22, 2004, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Kinda disappointing...

    by Wind_The_Frog

    I was hoping Drew Goddard and Steven DeKnight would end up on the same show, since the episodes they wrote together (and separately, for that matter) this year on Angel were wonderful. With the addition of Goddard and Jeffrey Bell, I predict Alias will have it's best season yet. I'm not sure if even DeKnight can help Smallville (the whole mythology with the caves is just so lame). He could make Lex into an even bigger bad-ass though.

  • May 22, 2004, 2:19 a.m. CST

    never understand the smallville bashers

    by cornstalkwalker

    smallville is one of my favorite shows. how can you not like superman.

  • May 22, 2004, 3:21 a.m. CST

    I think I like the idea of Smallville more than the actual show

    by FelatioHornblowr

    But it has got to be one of the most inconsistent shows in terms of quality that I've seen in a while. I don't watch it every week, but I try to check it out when I can. It seems that about a quarter (maybe a third) of the episodes I've seen have been really good but the rest have ranged from bad to awful. If the new writers don't improve the show then they should just cancel it after next season and put it out of its misery. Same goes for Alias. It's had some really good moments this season, but it still seems to be on the downward slide which began right after the takedown of SD-6. Maybe since Alias won't show up until 2005 they'll have extra time to work up a really good story for season 4. If not, just end it.

  • May 22, 2004, 3:33 a.m. CST

    In response to Mircalla...

    by FelatioHornblowr

    ...Firefly is definitely good enough for a movie. I think it's Whedon's best work, due in large part to an absolutely amazing cast. Not a dull or irritating member in the bunch. If you don't believe me head over to Amazon and check out a gajillion positive reviews for the show by excited fans. If you haven't seen the show yet, I highly recommend checking it out now that DVD set is out. Yes, as you point out, it was canceled. But I think that's exactly why Whedon is making a Firefly movie rather than a Buffyverse movie. He only got to make roughly a half a season of Firefly and didn't get to fully explore these wonderful characters that he created. I can't wait for Serenity!

  • May 22, 2004, 4:12 a.m. CST

    thx Hornblowr

    by Mircalla

    FRAY would also make a *great* movie or TV show imo.

  • May 22, 2004, 5:26 a.m. CST

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    by Prof. Pop-Cult

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  • May 22, 2004, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Firefly Cancelled => DVD Sales

    by Recognizer

    Firefly was cancelled 'cause it was treated like any other intelligently-written show at Fox: aired inconsistently, pre-empted pathologically, promoted halfheartedly. The DVD sales were massive. Thus Fox decided to go ahead with a movie. The show's awesome and if you haven't checked it out, I'd highly recommend it. If you have checked it out, p'raps you'll join me in recommending it.

  • May 22, 2004, 11:51 a.m. CST

    Smallville theory

    by Barry Egan

    I have a Buffy-related theory about some of the problems Smallville has. Since it was so thoroughly and justifiably compared to Buffy (superhero incognito in high school, I think all involved wanted to avoid any more comparisson. If you think about it, the first 3 Buffy seasons are the perfect template for the way Smallville should be done. Buffy had one major villian she fought for the whole season rather than a different villian every week (the girls who controlled the swarm of bees from Season 1 being the worst). Where Smallville continues to miss the boat is in not introducing one major villian that will support the whole year. Why can't Lionel (or somebody else for that matter) have one evil master plan that Clark's Scooby gang has to unravel over 22 episodes? Give them a Giles-like adult that helps out (Lex perhaps? That would be cool with everybody knowing where he is ultimately headed.). And end this whole cliche, tiured will they or won't they Clark and Lana thing. Joss came up with a great way to keep Buffy and Angel together while at the same time keeping them apart. Smallville has had some great individual eps, it has potential to have great entire seasons.

  • May 22, 2004, 11:51 a.m. CST

    So many Buffiverse writers working on so many GOD AWFUL shows

    by Craiggers

    It doesn't really instill much confidence anymore to see there names under the writing credits when it is in shows like "Tarzan" *blarg!*, Jake 2.0, and Smallville (though Smallville can be okay sometimes; like the finale kicked ass). Sometimes it makes me wonder how these people were able to churn out some of the best episodes of either Buffy or Angel (I'm guessing Joss is the reason). Still, I'm excited to see where Ben Edlund goes. And Tim Minear's Wonderfalls was a great show with a lot of potential. Here's hoping it gets renewed somewhere, sometime. Speaking of shows that need to be put back on the air, or at least released onto DVD, what about that show "Good versus Evil" or "GvsE"? That was one of the best shows on television at one point; it desperately needs to be released on DVD! Anybody with me on this?

  • May 22, 2004, 12:11 p.m. CST

    The problems with Smallville

    by Craiggers

    First of all, the whole "kryptonite monster of the week" premise is old and worn out. Every week, some kid gets super powers from kryptonite, fights Clark, and everything start anew. Clark is going to have a real problem later in life as superman when this legion of kryptonite kids realize that Superman has the same powers as the Smallville kid that put them away; plus, he looks amazingly just like him! Which brings me to Lex; Lex has seen Clark so many times without glasses, and Lex knows that something is up with Clark - he knows that he is special is some kind of way. So in the future, when he begins battling with Superman, what is to stop him from making the logical connection? Another problem with the show besides the logic holes is the pacing; the show does a horrible job of developing the characters. They all seem to be stuck in a loop. The same shit happens so much. Example: Lex and Lionel feud so much over the last few seasons to the point that it loses any poignancy when Lex finally makes his move and has Lionel arrested by the FBI. The show seems to be afraid of change. Sure, this season's finale has Lionel in prison (apparently about to go to the electric chair), Chloe and her father blown up, Clark in La-La land someplace, Lex poisened, and Lana in Paris. But next season none of this will matter. Lionel will find a way out of prison and continue the same old shit, Lex will of course survive, Clark will come back from wherever the hell he is with no new knowledge of his destiny, Chloe will somehow impossibly survive the explosion, and nobody will be the wiser. My point is that nomatter what happens each season, nothing really drastically changes; nothing new happens. I mean, compare the pacing of Angel: season 1 Angel's office is blown up, Doyle is killed, and Cordy ends up being vision girl. Season 2 Darla returns as a human, turns back into a vampire, and gets impregnated by Angel. See, STUFF happens that actually AFFECTS the next season and the seasons after that. I could be wrong, but that's just how I feel. Smallville isn't awful - it just needs more direction and sharper writing.

  • May 22, 2004, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Have to agree with Craiggers

    by Barry Egan

    I totally agree. Smallville could be aswesome. Let's hope some of the Joss influence starts to rub off on Smallville staff.

  • May 22, 2004, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Lex and Clark

    by Nicky Butane

    Lex doesn't make the Clark Superman connection because he's seen Clark battered and bleeding (without his powers). The finale was on the best episodes yet. I have to admit I'm gonna miss the "Naked Spike" show but the WB is serving up a hefty portion of "Naked Clark" so that will have to do. MMMMmmm "Spike"!

  • May 24, 2004, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Goodbye Angel

    by lycanthrope

    A show that started out promising, turned boring, then outlandishly bad (Pylea, anyone), then introduced whining as a character trait (Connor, anyone) and finally descended into tepid boredom - outside of Spike, the death of Wesley and Harmony's occasional comedic relief - oh wait, weren't they all previously on BTVS? - the whole show will not be missed by those who liked Angel better in seasons 1, 2 & 3 of BTVS... And those who think Smallville is still just krypto-villain ain't been watching - I'd put Jeph Loeb up against Joss Whedon any day - Loeb would come up for explanations on the whole Lex thing... Perhaps, in this incarnation, Lex DOES know who Superman is but holds onto the secret, manipulating Supes with that knowledge - even more interesting is a world where Lex likes Clark but hates Supes... Anyway, I loved Buffy (except the Initiative and Riley) and tolerated Angel - put a stake in him, he's DONE.

  • May 26, 2004, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Angel was a donkey's ass crack

    by super Cucaracha

    How can anybody like the spawn of Buffy? Smallville Rules! The last episodes had a lot of heart and it sucks to be you if you missed it. I actually hope the movie has as much soul as the show. Splash on you face beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeatch!