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GOONIES 2 ain't good enough... good enough for Richard Donner - ya-ya-ya-ya!!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with some word from Richard Donner about his upcoming projects that was sent around to a few of the internet film sites. As you may have guessed from the the title, Donner is off GOONIES 2... Thank God. No Mama Fratelli, No original Sloth... No need to make a sequel. In my mind, Sloth and Chunk went off and lived a happy life together filled with rocky road ice cream and Baby Ruth bars, Mouth and Stef are that awesome married couple that hate each other's guts, yet are somehow perfect for each other, Brand is off somewhere with his thumb up his butt running a business or something, Andy couldn't get the kiss with Mikey out of her mind, so they're now married and, of course, Data is about to take over the world with his home-built robot army. Why shatter my already fragile universe with a lame sequel? Anyway, here's the goodies straight from Richard Donner's mouth!!!

Hi boys,

Last nite they had a screening of Superman-The Movie:The Expanded Edition. It was held at the Arclight Cinema and was part of the Master Storyteller Series. Richard Donner was the guest.

It's the second time I've seen this on the big screen, first at the Egyptian in Hollywood, and it just doesn't get any better. OK, it was better because the screen was larger than the Egyptian's. It was a sold out show but the crowd was rather dead compared to the Egyptian's. Cheers and applause throughout there, random applause here. Anyway it was great.

Richard Donner went over alot that I believe was already covered on the DVD. He continued to praise his cast and twice said that Christopher Reeve "will walk again."

He isn't too thrilled with the idea of making a new Superman movie. He feels it was already done so why do it again. Unlike Lucas, he was and still is very happy with the special effects. Despite the fact they are over 25 years old they hold up. I know many people kinda grinned at the model shots of the raging river approaching the homes that Superman saves. You just go with what you got and enjoy it.

He did mention how the original script was much in the vain of the campy Batman tv series. Thank God, that changed.

He touched upon Superman II and his involvement but no talk about the possiblity of a new Donner cut.

As for Goonies II, "Afraid not." Donner told the audience after someone shouted out for Goonies II. He said they tried but didn't live up to the original so no Goonies. Now, he said no but I don't know if it means it will never happen. He may have said he's out of the chair but it doesn't mean another director, ie Sean Astin, couldn't take over. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

He said his next project may be a western written by Brian Helgeland. I wonder, there were stories a ways back that Helgeland was writing a new western for Clint Eastwood. Hmmm, could this be it? Donner, Eastwood, Helgeland? Imagine the possibilities.

Until later,

The Film Maven




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  • May 21, 2004, 12:01 a.m. CST

    FIRST!

    by Squeevil

    I'm Rick James bitch!

  • May 21, 2004, 12:03 a.m. CST

    I AM FIRST

    by one9deuce

    AND A DORK! No Goonies 2. GOOD.

  • May 21, 2004, 12:05 a.m. CST

    you dont applaud in movies, morons

    by SimpsonsQuoteMan

    what are you? freakin hell, if i ever saw someone yell something out or applaud in a movie i'd kick their ass

  • May 21, 2004, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Donner's a sad, washed up old hack.

    by Batutta

    The guy hasn't done anything great since Lethal Weapon. At least he doesn't have the clout to ass rape his previous works like old George.

  • May 21, 2004, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Oh boy,

    by one9deuce

    being first is pathetic, but not as bad as calling first and being second. Anyway, Superman The Movie is awesome. It will always remain a classic, because it has things that no new Superman film can ever match. The perfect lead actor and the perfect score. Not to mention excellent direction.

  • May 21, 2004, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Goonies II will be more amazing than the time I ate my weight in

    by I Hate Movies

    Get Mel to direct, not making any changes from the script ("This is what is written, Diane!"), shoot everything in slo-mo, hang One-Eyed Willie from a cross and call it "The Passion of the Mouth."

  • May 21, 2004, 12:25 a.m. CST

    If Sean Astin did GOONIES 2 he'd probably play it the same way h

    by Tall_Boy

    you know this to be true.

  • May 21, 2004, 12:35 a.m. CST

    A washed up old hack?

    by Kon-El

    Who are you to say that? Who are you to deminish this man's work? First off, how can you call him a hack? A hack is a McG, someone who works in and with the most base, gutteral instincts and ideas. But Donner, however, has made films - MOMENTOUS FILMS - from the heart. He and Christopher Reeve created our Superman. He made an icon more iconic and brought him to us children in a magical way no other director could. Mr. Donner understood and appreciated the fragility of depicting Superman on film. However he was undaunted. He strove and succeeded in creating an opus worthy of our greatest hero. Richard Donner is no hack. And no one has the right to deem him so. He makes movies for kids young and old - Superman, Superman II (for the most part), Goonies, and Radio Flyer. He's a true director who films from the heart. And nothing can deminish that.

  • May 21, 2004, 12:38 a.m. CST

    Really, what does it mean?!

    by MrCere

    What did the headline mean? I really can't figure it out even after reading the story.

  • May 21, 2004, 12:45 a.m. CST

    What The Title Means...

    by FlickChick

    This is proof that most talkbalkers are 13 year olds...Of course, they wouldn't be old enough to remember The Goonies and the Cyndi Lauper song from it, Harry tried to make a bad title joke out of.

  • May 21, 2004, 12:48 a.m. CST

    The title of the article

    by Nix311hive

    is from the theme song from the movie!.. Remember when Cyndi Lauper is singing the Goonies ARE good enough and then she yells "ya ya ya ya ya ya".. its a take on the song.. thats all

  • May 21, 2004, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Donner hasn't made a watchable movie since Maverick.

    by Osmosis Jones

    And I'm SHOCKED that I'm actually able to access the site again. "Fifty dowwa bill. Fifty dowwa bill? FIFTY DOWWA BILL!"

  • May 21, 2004, 1:03 a.m. CST

    Now that's what I call a sticky situation...

    by Tracheotomy Man

    Really, this is great news. Goonies 2 falling apart allows the rest of the cast move on to more important projects like...going to parent-teacher conferences, or signing posters at a comic book convention...

  • May 21, 2004, 3:40 a.m. CST

    Superman no more?

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    Dickie don't think we need another Superman movie????...Dickie be wrong...because only one thing make the new Superman the best Superman and that is McG!!!!!! ALL HAIL McG!!!!! McG IS THE MASTER!!! THE END ALL AND BE ALL OF FILM MAKING GENIUS!!!! McG HAS WIRE-FU!!!! DID DICKIE USE WIRE-FU???? NO!!!! AND WHY?? BECUASE HE IS NOT THE BRILLIANCE THAT IS McG!!!!! LOOK AT McG'S VIDEOS!!! DID DICKIE MAKE A VIDEO FOR KORN??? NO!!! BECAUSE DICKIE CAN'T HOLD A TORCH TO McG!!! DICKIE DON'T BLOW SHIT UP EVERY FIVE SECONDS!!! AND THAT IS WHY WE GO TO THE MOVIES!!! NOT TO SEE ROMANCE....NOT TO SEE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT....WE GO FOR THE BOOMS AND THE BANGS!!! AND THAT IS WHY McG! WILL ALWAYS BE THE MASTER OF THE CINEMA!!!! McG! KNOWS THAT YOU START OFF WITH A BIG EXPLOSION AND THEN YOU HAVE MORE EXPLOSIONS AND THEN YOU FINISH IT OFF WITH EVEN BIGGER EXPLOSIONS AND YOU HAVE THE AUDIENCE OUT OF THERE IN 90 MINUTES OR LESS SO THEY CAN CALL DOMINO'S AND GET THEIR BIG GOOEY PIZZA AND WATCH AMERICAN IDOL AND VOTE FURIOUSLY ON THE PHONE SYSTEM WITH EIGHT CELL PHONES AND THEN STAND UP AND SING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGANCE WHEN THE FLAG APPEARS AND SING THE PRAISES OF DEAD ARABS AND OVERPRICED GAS!!!!! WOOOOOO!!!! GOD DAMN McG! MAKES ME PROUD TO BE A FUCKING AMERICAN!!!! I WANNA WATCH McG! MOVIES ALL DAY AND SING LEE GREENWOOD SONGS AND LET EVEYONE IN THE WORLD KNOW THAT I AM SO GREAT!!!!! WOOOOOO!!! ALL HAIL McG!!!! ALL HAIL McG!!!!! ALL HAIL McG!!!!!...And thus, sing with me you commie pinkos! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • May 21, 2004, 4:06 a.m. CST

    This guy is still allowed to direct movies after TIMELINE???

    by godoffireinhell

    Consider me surprised.

  • May 21, 2004, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Goondock

    by Playhouse

    Goondock is a play on the word boondock, from which the word boonies was derived. The boondocks are a run-down, depressed section of a city or town, usually on the outskirts. Or a place out in the sticks. If someone says, "Man, that's way out in the boonies," that's what they are talking about. Goondocks was a riff on that, named that because the crew thought of themselves and were looked upon by their unseen classmates and peers as goons. The house was the Goondock and hence, they were the Goonies.

  • May 21, 2004, 4:08 a.m. CST

    McFeely

    by joe brady

    You are an idiot. Please stop being retarded.

  • May 21, 2004, 4:13 a.m. CST

    To be fair to Dick Donner...

    by Dolph

    Conspiracy Theory was, directorial wise, a far more interesting film that the hackneyed script allowed for.

  • May 21, 2004, 4:31 a.m. CST

    You're suggesting Sean Austin should direct Goonies 2? Why? Beca

    by TheGinger Twit

    maybe he could do it, i don't really know.

  • May 21, 2004, 4:57 a.m. CST

    and I quote... Sean Astin to me...

    by KyleKrane

    "Are you gonna do Goonies 2?" Sean, "Man, if they decide they're gonna do it. I'm so On. Yea I'd do it."

  • May 21, 2004, 5:14 a.m. CST

    Christopher Reeves "will walk again"

    by Womb2dooM

    Of course he will. George Lucus will simply CG his body from twenty years ago over his wheel chair and wala!!! Movie magic!

  • ROCKY ROOOOAAAD?!? BROTHER!

  • May 21, 2004, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Uh guys?

    by Blue_Demon

    I hate to break it to you youngsters but the Goonies sucked the first time around. Tnen again, I can see how things improve through the haze of nostalgia. After all, I'm the one guy who bought the Planet of the Apes tv series on dvd. :) Ahhh...to be 9 years old again. Skateboards, Slurpees and gorillas on horseback!

  • May 21, 2004, 8:26 a.m. CST

    "washed up old hack"

    by Indiana Clones

    The Omen, Superman, The Goonies and Lethal Weapon are anything but the work of a hack. Even his 'flops' such as Scrooged and Maverick are good. Prick.

  • May 21, 2004, 8:47 a.m. CST

    I'd rather eat my own shit

    by Drunken Rage

    than see another "Goonies" movie. The first one was AWFUL, ANNOYING SHIT! Re: Donner movies: he's made some terrific ones, and "Scrooged" could have been a classic had he just stuck with Michael O'Donoghue's incredibly mean-spirited script. Incidentally-- Chicken George-- that's the funniest post yet! Brilliant!

  • May 21, 2004, 11:53 a.m. CST

    "HEY YOU GUYS!"

    by BibFortuna

    Who remembers where that originally came from? hint: he's big, he's red, and he's full of oh-so-sugary-colored-liquid. hint2: Sloth watched a lot of TV.

  • Reeve was great, Donner & score too, but Hackman, Kidder blew chunks The blatant disrespect that Gene Hackman showed for Lex Luthor.. making him a clown, a buffoon, took away much of the suspense from all four movies, and had a significant echo of the campy Batman show. Watch the recent Superman animated shows from the WB and you will see Luthor as he should be. Dangerous, cool, intelligent, and BALD. Openly wealthy, not skulking in sewers. They seem to try to make him racially ambiguous, instead of just white, but oh well. The perfect casting for Luthor would have been... wait for it... wait for it... Patrick Stewart. You know it. He would have OWNED the role. Imagine him in some skyscraper office suite, with a magnificent view of the Metropolis skyline, confronting Reeve. Oh yeah. No stupid "Otis", or "Miss Tesmacher", no stupid Otis music. You could have Mercy though, played by, oh, Birgitte Nielsen? Yes. And Kidder? Already too old, too raspy voiced, yuck. A gajillion stunning women in Hollywood who could play "the girl", or even "the spunky sassy girl", and they went with Kidder. Horrible. Brando was OK; I'd like to have seen Charlton Heston in the role, and saved a few trillion dollars for effects.

  • May 21, 2004, 12:12 p.m. CST

    "Hey You Guys!" origin

    by Some Dude

    Bib Fortuna, although you hint that Sloth's phrase came from the Kool-Aid commercials, I always thought it came from the opening credits of the PBS kids show "The Electric Company." This warrants further investigation.

  • May 21, 2004, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Donner kebab.

    by logansden

    Richard donner is not washed up. The guy did the omen for christ sake. Not to mention the incredibly watchable (and A list free) Lethal weapon series. (Gibson got famous off of them) plus the Goonies WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? he did comic movies decades before they were THE THING TO DO. Richard Donner will be washed up the day Lucas next makes a decent movie. Dont hold your breath. HOWARD THE DUCK ANYONE???????

  • May 21, 2004, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Goonies II

    by stlfilmwire

    The only way Goonies II would work is if it was a prequel. I have outlined a story about One Eyed Willy. It would be perfect for a Goonies movie... or for a third Pirates of the Caribbean movie.

  • May 21, 2004, 12:45 p.m. CST

    I have a one eyed willy in my pants...

    by Rob_Graves

    You know it's funny. Fuck off, I got work to do.

  • May 21, 2004, 1 p.m. CST

    "Hey you guys!"

    by Blue_Demon

    Bib...Some. The quote is from the beginning of the Electric Company. It was yelled out by Rita Moreno if I am not mistaken. Kool-Aid yelled "Oh Yeaaaahhhh!" and would burst through a wall. Yeah, I'm a seventies kid. :)

  • May 21, 2004, 1:20 p.m. CST

    "Hey, you guys!" vs. "Oh, yeah!"

    by slone13

    "Hey, you guys!" comes from the openeing of The Electric Company. The Cool Aid Man says "Oh yeah!". You can read his bio here: http://www.x-entertainment.com/messages/367.html

  • May 21, 2004, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Some Dude You are correct

    by BibFortuna

    My bad... I always get that confused with the electric company slogan. Kool-Aid man always said OOOOH YEAAAH! HA HA HA!

  • May 21, 2004, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Some Dude You are correct

    by BibFortuna

    My bad... I always get that confused with the electric company slogan. Kool-Aid man always said OOOOH YEAAAH! HA HA HA!

  • May 21, 2004, 1:48 p.m. CST

    OOPS!

    by BibFortuna

    You're right... the Kool-Aid man always said "OH YEAAAAH!" and not "Hey You GUUUUYS!" I always get things like that confused. Call me a victim of over stimulated marketing.

  • May 21, 2004, 1:49 p.m. CST

    OOPS

    by BibFortuna

    You're right... the Kool-Aid man always said "OH YEAAAAH!" and not "Hey You GUUUUYS!" I always get things like that confused. Call me a victim of over stimulated marketing.

  • May 21, 2004, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Ummmm.....

    by Jimmy Jazz

    Superman: The Movie had problems. Big ones. Aside from the aforemetioned Luthor/Lane miscasting there was the fact that the setting and production design is horribly dated. The clothes, cars and many of the extras scream Disco Stu. For a mythic story like this, that's not good. They should have used the rather ambiguous setting and design of Burton's Batman. I didn't much care for Reeve's portrayal of Clark Kent. He's "mild mannered", not a total wimp. It was a bit over the top. Mostly, I disliked the Deus ex Machina ending. I never liked the nearly omnipotent, godlike Superman of the 1960's and 70's. Being able to stop the bad guys by traveling back in time is ludicrous. It makes Superman invulnerable and opens the story up for all manner of cop outs. With all due respect, but I think that his Superman CAN and SHOULD be improved upon.

  • May 21, 2004, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Oh...and Chicken George?

    by Jimmy Jazz

    You rock. Keep spreading the Gospel of McG!

  • May 21, 2004, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Superman should be remade

    by Pjdonnelli

    Im sick of directors who i have respect for saying that old films should be left alone and cgi is crap. CGI is no more false than stop-motion skeletons from yesteryear, movies are all about creating an illusion. Superman could clearly be improved on, a more serious and upto date image, better effects (lets face it, however well the originals stand up today, they could be done better now). But if Mc G fucks it up like he is planning on doing then we will all have to wait another 20 years till someone does it right. SUPERMAN DOES NOT KNOW KUNG-FU Mc FUCKING G, WHO TAUGHT HIM? NEO? DREW BARRYMORE?!!!

  • May 21, 2004, 8:37 p.m. CST

    The ending of SUPERMAN has always puzzled me...

    by FrankDrebin

    If he went back in time to save Lois, that means he didn't save the busload of kids, or stop the trainwreck, or one of the other rescues. I guess even Supes has to prioritize.

  • May 21, 2004, 9:46 p.m. CST

    I found this excerpt from a recent intereview with Donner. Check

    by Red Raider

    Have you followed the troubles on the new Superman project? That

  • May 23, 2004, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Speaking of "The Electric Company"....

    by mbaker

    You do know that they used Spider-Man in a series of kits where he battles goofy villians, and spoke in word baloons. Anyway, when "Family Guy" returns with new episodes, Seth MacFarlane must bring the Cool-Aid man back in all his wall crashing, "OH YEAH" screaming glory! (His current form dosen't hold a candle to the original) Oh, and the Superman animated series had the best incarnation of Lex Luthor ever! Clancy Brown puts Gene Hackman to shame!