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Tons of STAR WARS: EPISODE 3 pictures all gathered in one place! How nice and neat!!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
Ahoy, squirts. Quint here with a link to the Superhero Hype message boards where a plethora (isn't that a great word?) of EPISODE 3 pics have popped up. Some of them have been seen before (like Anakin in front of the bluescreen... you know which one I'm talking about, right? No, no... that was Anakin in front of the GREENSCREEN... dumbass!), but some were new to me. The child in me gets excited about some of this stuff, but the adult who has felt the pain of the prequels (and the Special Editions) has locked that little bastard up good and tight and put him in a dark place deep in my soul.
Seriously, some of these pics are really cool... I actually find my favorite being Anakin sitting, exhausted and dark with the RED lightsaber sitting on his lap.
I really want this flick to be good! If Lucas can somehow pull this third episode off, I can forgive the first two. This is the one that matters. This film is the entire reason for a prequel trilogy. It all rests here. So, look below and take a peak.
Hi Harry,
Just come across a forum posting which features lots of pics and
artwork from Episode III, that I haven’t come across yet on your site,
so I thought I forward them to you.CLICK HERE FOR TONS OF BLUE, GREEN AND MAYBE EVEN A SPARK OF HOPE!!!
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Star Wars sucks nutz
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I have ceased caring about all things Star Wars. This post is the very last bit of energy I expend on the franchise. Fuck It.
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By the way, TPM *was* good, with the exception of some annoyances such as Ahmed Best and Jake Lloyd. I can't defend Clones, though - that film, with Christenscum and the idiotic fanboy pandering (Booby Fettish, the Yoda fight...) sucked almost as much as Hayden Cantacten's "acting". *Almost*.
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Cant wait for episode 3 im chewing the table here in good old blighty.
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Is it just me, or does this Grevious guy's face look a bit Giger-influenced?
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General Grevious looks like a big pissed off coat hanger.
I am now convinced that Star Wars fans are even bigger losers than Star Trek fans, and that's saying something.
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I just remembered why I rarely post at this talkback; it's coz of snide, bitchy remarks like that!
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Anakin is Darth Vader. /exit[stageleft]
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Half of them are "x'd" out!
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Malcolm MacDowell Said that Best line ever in a star trek flick.Hopefully its him under palpatines hood (but i doubt it).
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This site is great place to find jerks - especially those who write on it!
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They are just nice big Red X's now...
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you stupid fuckers... this site sucks more and more everyday day
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That's what I Imagine just about every Jedi would say when they see Anakin. It appears he's just gonna walk around looking extremely pissed off for the whole movie. It should be obviuous to everyone that he's turning to the dark side, right? Jedi A:"Hey, when did they allow us Jedi to start wearing all black?" Jedi b: "Oh, only Evil Jedi are supposed to do that. Us good guys still wear the light weight brown stuff."
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Episode I was a travesty, Episode II was unwatchable. Unless G.L. allowed a visionary directory and a visionary writer to take the reigns (not him), Episode III will be more of the same, and will be horrible.
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Them damn me if I haven't achieved the impossible! I watched it just the other day! I even *liked* it, too!
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Episode 2 was an immensely enjoyable film. Not a masterpiece but a very entertaining film. Anyone who pretends otherwise is just being predictably hateful and very silly.
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May 06, 2004 12:12:15 PM CDT
"Mesa JaJa Bink- Mesa say new Star Wars trilogy GAYEST franchise
by cocolopez
Wow these movies are bad. Every time I see that one of these boiled farts are on cable I can't help but to put them on- in wonderment at how I can't even get past three minutes without losing consciousness as my eyeballs glaze over like Thanksgiving yams. These movies are ludicrously TERRIBLE. Each CGI image is stupider than the last- the monsters look anything but menacing, let alone real, the corny ass kids jokes are anything but cute, the trying-hard-to-be-complex plotlines are anything but involving or as earth-moving as Lucas seems to think... If Lucas ain't the new Ed Wood then my name isn't cocolopez- and WOW sure as shit check my user ID- it says cocolopez alright... Lucas you SUCK and your movies are unintentional laugh-encrusted riots that have erased the flavor of the original trilogy and replaced it with the taste of boiled shit. The only thing more gay are the hoards of pasty-teeth geekboys lining Lucas' pockets with their hard-earned cash. I shit on Episode Three- Oh! I know! It's the best one! The other two were only set-ups! LOL. Are you really gonna be stunned when Anakin puts the Vader mask on at the end- MINDBLOWING DUDE - UTTERLY HAUNTING- or are you going to be sitting there, eyeballs glazed with vapid thoughts about to be replaced by self-loathing for getting yourself hyped up for the biggest steaming turd ever masked as cinema... If you don't think the latter- then you've been fooled. Congratulations.
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May 06, 2004 12:12:27 PM CDT
Old Pictures from HyperSpace, Insider Scans, and TFN's DarthFrid
by darthpsychotic
The pictures marked "JediDefender.com" are REAL and come from theforce.net's source DarthFriday. Some of the pictures were re-done as "fan art" on theforce.net mirror website TBo's starwarz.com (TFNLite). The pictures were leaked in Rebelscum.com chatroom by Tom Hodges. The pictures are of the Lava Planet, a Separtist conference room, a Wookie Boat, a Wookie Hover Craft/Speeder, and one of General Grevious's vehicles.
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May 06, 2004 12:12:31 PM CDT
"Mesa JaJa Bink- Mesa say new Star Wars trilogy GAYEST franchise
by cocolopez
Wow these movies are bad. Every time I see that one of these boiled farts are on cable I can't help but to put them on- in wonderment at how I can't even get past three minutes without losing consciousness as my eyeballs glaze over like Thanksgiving yams. These movies are ludicrously TERRIBLE. Each CGI image is stupider than the last- the monsters look anything but menacing, let alone real, the corny ass kids jokes are anything but cute, the trying-hard-to-be-complex plotlines are anything but involving or as earth-moving as Lucas seems to think... If Lucas ain't the new Ed Wood then my name isn't cocolopez- and WOW sure as shit check my user ID- it says cocolopez alright... Lucas you SUCK and your movies are unintentional laugh-encrusted riots that have erased the flavor of the original trilogy and replaced it with the taste of boiled shit. The only thing more gay are the hoards of pasty-teeth geekboys lining Lucas' pockets with their hard-earned cash. I shit on Episode Three- Oh! I know! It's the best one! The other two were only set-ups! LOL. Are you really gonna be stunned when Anakin puts the Vader mask on at the end- MINDBLOWING DUDE - UTTERLY HAUNTING- or are you going to be sitting there, eyeballs glazed with vapid thoughts about to be replaced by self-loathing for getting yourself hyped up for the biggest steaming turd ever masked as cinema... If you don't think the latter- then you've been fooled. Congratulations.
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May 06, 2004 12:13:18 PM CDT
"Mesa JaJa Bink- Mesa say new Star Wars trilogy GAYEST franchise
by cocolopez
Wow these movies are bad. Every time I see that one of these boiled farts are on cable I can't help but to put them on- in wonderment at how I can't even get past three minutes without losing consciousness as my eyeballs glaze over like Thanksgiving yams. These movies are ludicrously TERRIBLE. Each CGI image is stupider than the last- the monsters look anything but menacing, let alone real, the corny ass kids jokes are anything but cute, the trying-hard-to-be-complex plotlines are anything but involving or as earth-moving as Lucas seems to think... If Lucas ain't the new Ed Wood then my name isn't cocolopez- and WOW sure as shit check my user ID- it says cocolopez alright... Lucas you SUCK and your movies are unintentional laugh-encrusted riots that have erased the flavor of the original trilogy and replaced it with the taste of boiled shit. The only thing more gay are the hoards of pasty-teeth geekboys lining Lucas' pockets with their hard-earned cash. I shit on Episode Three- Oh! I know! It's the best one! The other two were only set-ups! LOL. Are you really gonna be stunned when Anakin puts the Vader mask on at the end- MINDBLOWING DUDE - UTTERLY HAUNTING- or are you going to be sitting there, eyeballs glazed with vapid thoughts about to be replaced by self-loathing for getting yourself hyped up for the biggest steaming turd ever masked as cinema... If you don't think the latter- then you've been fooled. Congratulations.
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May 06, 2004 4:32:14 PM CDT
The prequels may not be peak form Star Wars, but they have both
by gere's assgerbil
Jedi is undoubtedly the weakest of all Star Wars movies. From the awful Ewoks to Hamill's wussy wail "Noooo!" when Vader discovers Leia. It's just bad through and through. Which is why I'm so puzzled when all these fucksticks say shit like "The Prequels have killed Star Wars for me!" Huh? Maybe you didn't realize it, morons, but Lucas killed Star Wars with Jedi. The prequels are his shot at redeeming himself, and so far he's done a pretty decent job.
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Unfortunately for Ep II, Peter Jackson and Weta had to come into the mix and show people how spectacular SFX are really done. Episode II was all CG, and it shows. It's hard to get involved, because the CG gets totally in the way. G.L. should really look to Peter Jackson for guidance.
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I just finished purchasing Star Wars DVD's on Ebay. Original Theatrical version Star Wars DVD's. I'm fine with the Prequel Trilogy being well below average to shitty. In fact they are probably more interesting as failures anyway. I just can't fathom why George Lucas continually revises the Original Star Wars Trilogy, and WON'T RELEASE THE THEATRICAL VERSIONS. The DVD's that come out in September are revised yet again. They are not the 1997 Special Editions. He really has gone insane. Episode 3 is going to be a shitfest, and anyone who is over the age of 15 and/or has any capacity to understand what makes a good movie will certainly agree. Original Trilogy: Darth Vader is the ultimate badass in film history, with a lot of mystery about his character (removing the mask in ROTJ was a mistake). Prequel Trilogy: Darth Vader is a bowl haircut having little annoying 9 year old that says "Wizard!" and "now this is Pod Racing! Whoo-hoo!", and then a whiny teen spewing vomit inducing lines such as "I am haunted by the kiss that you should never have given me". Original Trilogy: Boba Fett is a serious badass with total mystery to his character. Prequel Trilogy: Boba Fett is a mop haircut wearing 10 year old that says "Dad, Taun-We is heewa (can't pronounce R's correctly)". And he is a clone, so I guess he looks just like 10,000 other dudes. Nice going George. It would be difficult to hypothetically destroy the characters from the Original Trilogy worse than George Lucas has with the Prequel Trilogy. Yoda spinning around like a video game, C3PO at the end of AOTC, R2D2 flying(!), and now we get to see Chewbacca desecrated in Episode 3. Yay.
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May 06, 2004 10:29:57 PM CDT
Oh look, now the whining VAN HELSING losers have a STAR WARS boa
by big dumb ape
What a bunch of morons. Remember when being a geek was about the simple pleasure of going to a genre movie to enjoy it and walk out with a goofy grin on your face like a little kid RATHER than being a pissy, arrogant twat who loves to tear things down simply TO tear them down -- even BEFORE you've actually seen it? The first is the spirit Harry was talking about in his VAN HELSING review, a message clearly lost on you buffoons. What the fuck is the matter with some of you people? Why do people still pit franchises against each other as if they're sporting events? Here's a fact for you: unless you are a stockholder in Universal what the hell should it matter to you how VAN HELSING opens? Or EPISODE 3 or any other movie? Just go and enjoy it, or newsflash for some of you morons -- DON'T go. You know, at a time when people die daily from disease, go hungry or without shelter, and at a time when our own soldiers are bravely putting their LIVES on the line fighting for something they believe in, you fucking twats want to piss and moan about how Lucas has lost it -- worse, that you actually think you fucking know STAR WARS better than he does. As for those of you bagging on Lucas I have 4 words for you. SHUT THE FUCK UP. The harsh reality is that most of you whiners are buffoons who spend too much time living in your parents' basements beating off to Internet porn. In the immortal words of William Shatner "Get a life." Truth be told, if you're all such worldy filmmakers, here's a notion for you: Stop touching yourselves so much, put your dicks back in your pants, zip up, and go make a movie yourself. Don't like the way Lucas has made the PREQUELS... think the Wachowzchis dropped the ball on the MATRIX films... think Jackson didn't do a good job on translating LOTR... think Cameron sold out making a crappy, sappy love story TITANIC... think Sommer doesn't know shit about the Universal monsters with VAN HELSING? Then put your money where your mouth is and get busy proving YOU could do better. That's right -- why don't YOU put yourselves through the grinds that people like Lucas, Cameron, Spielberg, Jackson, Sommers or whoever went through and make YOUR OWN movie for all the world to see? So you can be judged on what YOU did? Oh that's right, you couldn't make a good movie because most of you are not only backseat quarterbacks with overly big mouths and self-inflated egos, the truth is you're utterly talentless fucking hacks who haven't the first clue about filmmaking. Reality check for you Star Wars bashers: Lucas has more talent in this toenail then you dolts will ever muster in a lifetime. Oh, 2 other things. You don't want to see EPISODE 3 or a VAN HELSING or (insert upcoming movie title here)...then here's another newsflash for you Einsteins: DON'T GO. It's not like an AMC theater rep is breaking down your door and pointing a gun to your head MAKING you go see something. You're not interested in something? Fine. Save your money for something you DO want to see. Which goes to point 2 -- Stop shitting on the fun others are trying to have for movies they DO want to enjoy or are looking forward to. What a bunch of spoiled whining twats some of you have become. You all should be bitchslapped upside the head for turning into such wastes of space...
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When you say the prequels are unwatchable, that's your OPINION, not fact. Here's a fact: I watch AOTC all the time, I love it. That proves the movie is not unwatchable, at least not universally. Here's another fact: some of you have a valid dislike for the prequels, because they are not to your taste, and that's OK. What is sad is that it's obvious that you vocal haters want to be able to like the prequels, because they're Star Wars movies after all, but you can't like them, not because you don't understand them, but because of bias, which is not a bad thing. Everyone is biased in one direction or another. That's what creates opinions. And you can say your dislike is because you are more discriminating, a word that when applied to taste connotes refinement, but that often has a negative meaning in other contexts. But that's just the way it is, it's a useful word that describes reality, because everything is relative. We like what we like for different reasons, all of us. I don't care for sports, but I don't deny their appeal. Stop trying to convince everyone the Star Wars prequels are bad and I will stop trying to convince you they are good.
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The sad thing is that the micro-series Tartovsky (sp?) did for the Cartoon Network was better than both movies.
I'm not looking at the pix because I want to go into Episode III knowing as little as possible about it (except who dies, most of whom are obvious). However, it doesn't matter what the pictures look like. We're still going to have to deal with the worthless drivel that Lucas wrote for Ep. II ("Someday I'll be the most powerful Jedi EVER!" Ugh). He shoulda offered Lawrence Kasdan whatever it took to get him off "Dreamcatcher" and had him write and/or direct "Attack of the Clones". The more I hear Lucas interviewed, the more I think he's one of the biggest a--holes in show business. Thanks George, for ruining one of the seminal pieces of pop culture from my lifetime.
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May 07, 2004 12:15:01 AM CDT
Howstone: We're still going to have to deal with the worthless d
by commando cody
Oh, gimme a fucking break. You know, Big Ape above nailed it in his lengthy post above about people whining for no good reason OTHER than to shit over other people's fun and play spoiler. But what kills me is when people like you say (quote): "We're still going to have to deal with the worthless drivel that Lucas wrote for Ep. II (Someday I'll be the most powerful Jedi EVER!" Ugh)." First of all, the saga as a whole is about someone who's tempted by power and emotionally pushed to a darker side by the death of loved ones. A fallen person who feels -- in a misguided way -- that the Jedi Order ISN'T doing what it should to maintain order the universe. So he decides to align himself with darker forces that are willing to use any means to achieve such an end. So, sorry, but it only seems natural to me that someone with anger in his voice or tears flowing from just burying his own MOTHER who was TORTURED to death would vow "Someday I'll be the most powerful Jedi ever" in a moment of starting to cross over. Sorry, but even taken as a pure line -- extracted -- there's nothing wrong with that line to make it drivel per se. You can do that with pretty much most movie lines if you just take them out of the film as a single sentence and REMOVE all the surrounding context. Worst of all, you people bitching about Lucas' dialogue are the same people who came out of PHANTOM MENACE saying "I can't believe Anakin's mother said a lame ass line like 'What does your heart tell you?' What a groaner! Lucas can't write!" BUT then when Gandalf says the EXACT same line in ROTK you're all kissing Jackson's ass saying, "Genius. I have chills. I just shot a load in my pants from the emotion of that line." Man, it's one thing to not like something for legitimate reasons (and that means judging something AFTER you've seen it), but you crabazoids are just LOOKING prematurely for reasons -- sight unseen -- to come down on Episode 3 and to ruin other people's fun of looking forward to this. Which makes me realize some of you SERIOUSLY need to go get laid.
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www.redxrebellion.com
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i like the designs - FINALLY one of the prequels starts to look like the good old movies. just take a look at that bridge. and that makeup is amazing. it's pretty cool how episode I kind of starts in the 1950s (in terms of design), while episode II is the early 1960s. that kind of rolls things along for episode IV to look so "late 1970s" in its design. that's kinda very surreal when you think about it. not that i liked the first two movies (episode I got it pretty close - amazing action pieces like the pod race and darth maul and the fight in the fields at the end are PURE Star Wars - all that politics and jar jar and jake lloyd were NOT.) episode II was just . . . weird. i'm sort of left with a lingering opinion like i was after seeing Matrix: Reloaded. it'd be great if Lucas really hit this one out of the park, though. deep down, i think we're all rooting for the guy. admit it.
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Get a life! Stop talking like you want to take GL's life!!! All the films are enjoyable....and remember THEY ARE JUST MOVIES!!!!!
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...the sad fact that AICN blow goats: they have no bandwidth, rarely host their own pics, never host their own trailers, LEECH other sites badwidth and have the WORST EVER messageboards. I mean COME ON! Over there on the right there's a banner telling me to be nice becuase I'm using "OUR bandwidth." What bandwidth? It's not like the posting boards here carry any kind of meaningful load. I've seen C-64 BBSs from the 80's handle more traffic on a 300bps modem. You guys are such industry bigshots now: build a real fucking website.
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Thanks for pointing out that "What does your heart tell you?" line, because I thought it sounded a lot more awkward coming from Gandalf. The thing is, Star Wars has ALWAYS had bad lines ("nerf-herder", anyone?), always been a little tongue-in-cheek and hokey. But when the solmenity of LOTR is broken up with something as gut-wrenchingly awful as "You shall be...The FELLOWSHIP of the Ring!", it takes you out of the fantasy even more. Loved Jackson's work for the most part, but every film had a couple anachronistic moments that just reeked of amateurism (and that's without even getting into Jackson't lapse into his schlock-horror roots). "I'm haunted by the kiss you never should have given me" may sound lame, especially if you're already brainwashed to think the simple high school drivel that passes for dialogue between Han and Leia in ROTJ is good, but it's an attempt at poetry. I'd rather see Anakin and Padme get a little Dawson Creeky with the words than see two adults having a 13 year-old level lover's quarrel. And Carrie Fisher's "Someone who LOVES you" from Jabba's Palace might very well be the worst line reading in the saga, Jake Lloyd included. The above poster who took fanboys to task for ignoring ROTJ's flaws was right on the money. The film has some amazing parts, but they are all in the same places: The Luke/Vader/Palpatine scenes, the space battle, and maybe 1/3 of the Jabba's compound scenes (the blue elephant & co. and the not-even-close Captain Blood skiff material are hardly classic). Unfortunately that leaves us with half the film. Everything on Dagobah is god-awful, and 90% of everything on Endor is as well. The guy catching the backpack and falling screaming over the balcony in the force shield building is probably the lamest moment in any Star Wars film. While Episode One's cringe-moments may be spread throughout the film, that doesn't make it worse. Because the goodies are spread out as well, and unlike Jedi shows some originality with the locations and characters. Jedi is a slapped together mess of already-played out stuff (Yoda, Death Star), and some ideas that were turned into crap (Wookie planet becoming Endor & Ewoks). Stop judging the original trilogy as a naive 10 year old and the new ones as a cynical fogie. Try a little objectivity and you'll see they're all cut from the same cloth. Episode One was far from perfect (Clones a little closer), but compared to Jedi they show a lot more life in the artistic and creative departments.
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so freakin slow
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You just have to look. Take some initiative and search. Go to the end of the thread, like the 11th page, and there's a new link for the pictures posted.
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the Birth of Vader pic is pretty cool. I sure hope this movie is good.
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Don't the sets in the last few pics look a lot like the Emperor's throne room from ROTJ?
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I used to think the Star Wars films were crap until YOU explained them for me-"First of all, the saga as a whole is about someone who's tempted by power and emotionally pushed to a darker side by the death of loved ones". Gee, thanks!! Now I get it!!! And to think you did it without comming off sounding like a load. Bravo.
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http://www.hellhamster.frac.dk/new_ep3_pics.html
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May 07, 2004 2:56:17 AM CDT
I can't understand how people can spew so much bile at these mov
by tall_boy
whatever. Chill man. Some people dig it, some people don't. I dig both trilogies personally? Does that make me an idiot and you a higher lifeform? No. It just means we have different tastes. Lets all just hug and mellow out for a bit here, kiddies. Serenity now.
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May 07, 2004 2:59:02 AM CDT
actually, scratch that. I offically retract the above call for
by tall_boy
anyone who writes "Looks like Frodo has kicked Anakin's ass!! :P" and believes it is clearly unreachable.
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i had some questions about hayden as vadar but those pics of him scared have sealed the deal
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I dont care what you other geeks say..I love it! I want to marry it!
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It's hard to find intelligent responses in the post-LOTR era on this site.
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...It's my pleasure as a lifelong fan of the franchise to help explain the facts of STAR WARS to people like you who have no sense of story comprehension or filmmaking narrative. Heaven forbid loud mouthed wise asses like you should actually get a fucking clue regarding the saga or some insight about the utter nonsense you bitch about or the small details you pick on retardedly. In fact, just for you, next week as a public service we'll work on teaching you the colors too, and after that, time. So have your crayons ready...
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His tongue is so fast. More pleasure for me all you Jar Jar haters.
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...is a good glam rock theme song, with electric guitars and a raspy-voiced singer. And Episode Three should also have a good hip hop number performed by, who else, Jar Jar Binks. I think there are a lot of untapped markets that Lucas hasn't considered yet. Who wouldn't want to see Star Wars on MTV? It's only a matter of time before we see Star Wars...The Musical on Broadway. Instead of lightsaber duels, we'll see the Force manifested in powerful dance battles that show that the true spirit of the Jedi. Auditions now being held for skilled dancers who can perform with a long cape and large helmet.
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This is Lucas' creative process at work: "Hmm, let's see, Vader is supposed to fall into a lava pit...I know, I'll create a LAVA PLANET! Yeah! I'm a genius."
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Lazarus Long hit the nail on the head -- Star Wars has ALWAYS had questionable dialogue. Yes, even in TESB. "Laserbrain" is certainly no better than "Deathsticks". And what's with the complaining about Anakin's dialogue in AOTC? What do you expect from a 19-year-old virgin living a monk's existence? Dylan Thomas? He's an inexperienced kid. The supposed "mature" romantic interaction between Han and Leia in ROTJ is the most unwatchable element in the whole saga. They come across as a couple realizing they DON'T love each other, but don't quite know how to call it all off. A complete letdown after the build-up in TESB. Yes, the infamous "sand" line in AOTC is painful to listen to, but mostly because it shows how awkwardly Anakin tries to make a "smooth" transition to a subject matter which would enable him to cop a feel. That having been said, I'm sure most of the lines used by you sad losers on your first dates (if you've had any) would make Anakin sound like Barry White.
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That was real dirty, linking to the superhero hype thread. I'm sure they really appreciated that. Practically all of the images there are no longer showing up anyway. Where can one see the pic of Darth Vader w/ lightsaber? A link posted further up has some pics mirrored but not that one
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each and every one of your naysaying little cocksuckers will line up happily to see Episode III, and you will all purchase the original trilogy on DVD, regardless of which version is released. since these will become the highest selling items in DVD history, and since Episode III will probably break 300 million domestically in box office receipts, its obvious that anyone SO vocal about how they think Star Wars sucks, is kidding ONLY themselves. you all will see it, and you all will then race home to get back into your little kid bedrooms and post on AICN how "Lucas fucked everything up.", meanwhile you will be running a dvd of Episode II in the background so you can wack your misshapen dicks to scenes with Portman's nipples rocketing out of her jumpsuit.
i laugh at you faggots with regularity, each and every time i see you.
you're all hypocrites, following the rules of the geek genre and failing to create anything of value other than a puddle of sperm in your laps, as you realize how lonely and pathetic your insignificant little lives really are.
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May 07, 2004 9:34:11 AM CDT
CHANGELING- yes- GAYEST is a word- listed in the dictionary and
by cocolopez
so you can take your "bad grammar children" comment and blow it out of your sad flatulant ass. You obviously possess the intelligence of a frozen pumpkin- and the film tastes of a little girl. These movies suck. Period. And you harlequins shedding tears about "prequels bashing" act like no one is allowed to give negative opinions of your precious little franchise- which we were ALL fans of before these prequels came out. Stop trying to justify the dialogue- its just flat out awful. The cgi is disgraceful- the human actors do not work together on screen with any of these hideous images and the sad part is that the cgi characters show more charisma then the wooden actors. And to Quint or whatever you are saying that the third episode is the whole reason for doing a trilogy- if it was only about one movie then there should have only been one prequel- you dumbass. When this turd rolls out there will be three flaming pieces of shit out there- guaranteed. and no it isn't justified to compare LOTR to SW because there is no comparison. One is a work of art and the other is a piece of rotten garbage. If it weren't true there'd be a HELL of a lot less SW "haters" than there are. Believe it. There's no conspiracy against SW. The films just suck. I know you guys invested SO MUCH into it- but save yourselves the pain now and admit it before EPISODE THREE turns you into vapid drooling lobotomized tart heads in permanent denial that you all got fucked in the ass by George Lucas while he rifled through your wallets and pockets.
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Yeah, that means you MisterGrimloch and you, Big Dumb Ape and CommandoCody. I've largely stayed out of these "discussions" because the level of discourse hovers around 6th grade name-calling, and frankly I'm too busy on my own projects to waste time trading juvenile insults with geeks like you. But because of your fanboy provocation, and for the sake of the other halfway-intelligent people here, I'll explain why these prequels have sucked and blown simultaneously. None of this is new, but apparently some people need to be reminded. (Keep in mind, I'm someone who saw STAR WARS in the theater 50 times before I stopped counting.) Big Dumb Ape, you ask the question, "Remember when being a geek was about the simple pleasure of going to a genre movie to enjoy it and walk out with a goofy grin on your face like a little kid..." Yes, I remember all too well, and I remember how pained I felt coming out of Eps. 1&2. Why? Because the simple, straightforward storytelling of the original trilogy had become mired in leaden exposition about trade federations, taxation, political wrangling and senate debates. Appealing characters and exciting setpieces were forsaken for bad actors (both Anakins) and dialogue which made the scripts for the original trilogy look like Shakespeare. I saw Ep. 1 in the theater twice, and the second time I dozed off. Ep. 2 was better, and at least the last half-hour was solid fun, but there is so much lame stuff there that it only just about equals Return of the Jedi, easily the worst of the original trilogy. Lucas had not directed a movie in 20 years when he did Episode 1, and it showed. He pulled absolutely horrible, soporific performances from award-winning actors like Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor. In fact it's becoming clear that Episode 1 was completely unnecessary from a storytelling standpoint. Instead, it's a demo reel for Lucas' digital filmmaking process and CG character interaction. I'm betting that once Episode 3 is out, it'll become clear that they could have combined Ep. 1 & 2 in the first movie, done the Clone Wars as Ep. 2, and then do Episode 3. Instead, we get the Clone Wars as a cartoon which is better directed than the first 2 Episodes. I wanted to love these movies the way I loved the originals, but it just wasn't possible. And it's not because I lost touch with my "inner child." It's because Lucas did. And his inability or unwillingness to delegate writing or directing the prequels doomed them to mediocrity. Sure, he's paid his dues, and it's his money, so it's his franchise and he can do what he wants, but it's obvious none of the sycophants at the Ranch were capable of raising their hand and saying, "Sir, this script is weak. This does not have 10 percent of the spark or energy of the original movie." MisterGrimloch, it is not I or the other critics of these movies who are masturbating, it is Lucas and his lackeys. They take themselves too seriously, and in so doing have lost touch with their intuitive sense of what makes a fun movie, spawing instead some shambling, bloated monstrosity of merchandising. The people who "whine" about it do so because they really loved the original movies and see all too clearly how lame these prequels are. The deluded immature ones are the people who defend the prequels as if Lucas could do no wrong.
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good point chafskane. I'm sure when we all first heard about this trilogy the first thing on most of our minds was that we'd actually get to see the clone wars- however in Attack of the Clones not one clone attacked anything. Lucas probably shitted his pants when thinking about how to tackle the clone wars- and his decision to cut it out of the movies and to make short cartoons out of it was contemptuous at least. There was a day when he would have creamed himself thinking of how to film the clone wars- sadly that day is long gone. He has been replaced with a sour old fart who won't give up the original theatrical cuts because he doesn't want anyone to see "the strings"- he has pissed on classic footage with blobbish childish cgi creatures that look like they jumped out of a prepubescent television miniseries. His new films lack emotion and expression- his dialogue seems to have been scripted by an utter hack, and he obviously worships himself like a demigod. You won't ever see extras on a prequel dvd of Lucas jumping around the set excitedly, inspiring actors and stagehands alike. I'm willing to bet that footage like that doesn't even exist. There isn't even a set. Fucking blue screens. Why even bother with the actors? Am I the only one who misses the old puppets and costumes? You put all of those people out of work and replaced them with soulless geeks with laptops? What a slap in a fanboy's face. Instead of the incredible action set-pieces we got in the first trilogy we now get a pod race and some ludicrously inane arena fight. The only time I cheered was when Amedala got clawed by that stupid tiger-looking thing. It was the only time I felt excited- I'm not sure if it was because I was so bored by the characters by then that to see them mutilated made me gleeful, or if it was some perverse thing with Natalie Portman suffering, or if it was the only flicker of life in a bloodless, soulless, un-menacing, eyeball-glazing piece of dreck devoid of fun. Whatever. I've seen the haunted look in the eyes of these assembly-line die-hard SW fans. When they talk about it their passion is gone, its like auto-pilot- and there is a hollow under their eyes and quick sideways glances that suggest that they DO know that the floor has been ripped out from under them- but that they must still give the illusion of standing, even as they hurl into a bottomless chasm of soulless exploit. Have fun falling you lame bastards- I'll watch from above.
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When they finally get rid of those annoying actors.
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Boy do you sound like an angry prick. Still it's nice of you to come down off your high horse and explain these films to the little people. Continue posting I need the laughs.
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well said. I think the problem with too many of these fanboys is the pathetic need to defend every film from criticism, even those that don't deserve any defense. Bottom line Ep 1 and 2 were badly made films. No matter what that "brain trust" Commando Cody says.
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realizing i am possibly intruding on your extremely valuable time, i will be brief.....blow me.
if you REALLY had significant "projects" to complete, you wouldnt be here arguing about, ahem, STAR WARS movies at all. got that, asshole?
and whether or not someone chooses to defend Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Matrix, or New Zoo Review is entirely their choice. i am here to point out the hypocrisy of idiots like you, who cry foul to almost every move Lucas has made since writing Raiders. trust me, i have no desire, and George Lucas certainly has no need of a "defense" of his projects during his esteemed career. please, try not to wrap yourself up too much in the grandeur of whatever baloney you and your fictional friends are endeavoring to "accomplish" that is so mindbogglingly wondrous as to necessatate telling ANYONE on a fucking annonymous internet forum.
you sir, are the epitomy of the internet geek. you post, pretending to be someone who has anything relevant to say.
well, cocksmoker, if you did you would say it to someone who gave a fuck, and not some words on the screen called "MisterGrimloch".
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May 07, 2004 5:46:02 PM CDT
I almost forgot to poke my head in here and say: THIS WILL FUCKI
by fluffyunbound
Yuck.
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You have "no desire" to actually discuss the merits of the films, so you instead waste time composing crude insults designed to offend other children. And you say we're hypocrites? Man, you are a sad, demented little troll. Talk about irrelevant...
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LOL! You bash someone for not having a relevant argument and then you proceed to call the guy a "cocksmoker". I guess it's no fun being 14 but do you have to sling your garbage this way? Listen kid, a lot of people are going to disagree with you in this life...get over it and move on. Facts are some people don't like the same movies you do...think you can handle that fact or do you have some slimey little reply for me too? Come on..show us how low you'll go for Star Wars of all things.
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You know, a lot of people genuinely like these movies. They are not 'fooling' themselves. They are not in denial. They like them. More than dislike them I'd bet. The audience polling done for both movies proves that. Personally, I think they have been alright and good, but could have been much much much better. I don't think they came close to their potential. I think its a shame that the series peaked with its second installment (Empire Strikes Back), and I think its a shame that Lucas didn't let a better writer script the new ones (at least the love story) and a better director (of human beings) direct them. But whats done is done. We'll never know how big a Prequel trilogy of Empire level quality would have been. In my mind such a series would have produced a $500 million grossing first installment in 1999, and $400 million follow-ups. But anyway; one thing Lucas did do very well was the casting of the three leads. McGregor/Portman/Christensen are all talented, and could have shined in their roles had they been given more to work with. You can't have it both ways and say Lucas is an awful writer and a terrible director of people and then turn around and blame the actors and expect them to make gold out of what you call shit. I mean, you could if not for the fact that virtually every cast member has received mostly good reviews for their acting in work not written and directed by George Lucas. But they have, so its clear George Lucas has extracted from them a unique style of acting. Some say its 'stiff' and 'wooden' and 'lifeless' and 'bored'. Lucas claims its intentional. Who knows? I mean, I think Portman and Christensen do have good chemistry in AOTC that is on the verge of breaking out many times only to be buried beneath Lucas's bizarre and distracting dialogue. Whatever the case, the buck starts and stops with Lucas. There are a few possibilities: 1. He got the performances he wanted, that he considered good and appropriate, and its just an unfortunate case of his taste equaling bad acting for many in the audience 2. The actors were stinking it up, and Lucas made a sincere and competent attempt to correct it but was unable to because of the lack of acting talent - again, this is unlikely 3. The actors were stinking it up and Lucas tried to correct it but was unable to do so because of a lack of ability in dealing with flesh and blood actors 4. The actors were stinking it up and Lucas realized it but decided he didn't want to put forth the effort to fix it, or in other words he didn't feel like directing better performances out of them. And you shouldn't blame the ILM people for soul-less cgi; again it is Lucas who has determined that there must be so much cgi, so many cgi characters, and digital work on every last shot. One could say the actors and the crew should have spoken up (ala Harrison Ford), but maybe they thougt it was pointless. Maybe they lacked the familiarity with Lucas that Ford had that made him comfortable calling Lucas' lines shit. And of course, maybe they did. Wasn't there something on this site about Lucas having a falling out with one of the actors? Maybe they did get frustrated. Who knows. But whoever made the comment about the dvd extra: I agree that it would be very interesting to see how Lucas actually handled the directing chores.
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You know, a lot of people genuinely like these movies. They are not 'fooling' themselves. They are not in denial. They like them. More than dislike them I'd bet. The audience polling done for both movies proves that. Personally, I think they have been alright and good, but could have been much much much better. I don't think they came close to their potential. I think its a shame that the series peaked with its second installment (Empire Strikes Back), and I think its a shame that Lucas didn't let a better writer script the new ones (at least the love story) and a better director (of human beings) direct them. But whats done is done. We'll never know how big a Prequel trilogy of Empire level quality would have been. In my mind such a series would have produced a $500 million grossing first installment in 1999, and $400 million follow-ups. But anyway; one thing Lucas did do very well was the casting of the three leads. McGregor/Portman/Christensen are all talented, and could have shined in their roles had they been given more to work with. You can't have it both ways and say Lucas is an awful writer and a terrible director of people and then turn around and blame the actors and expect them to make gold out of what you call shit. I mean, you could if not for the fact that virtually every cast member has received mostly good reviews for their acting in work not written and directed by George Lucas. But they have, so its clear George Lucas has extracted from them a unique style of acting. Some say its 'stiff' and 'wooden' and 'lifeless' and 'bored'. Lucas claims its intentional. Who knows? I mean, I think Portman and Christensen do have good chemistry in AOTC that is on the verge of breaking out many times only to be buried beneath Lucas's bizarre and distracting dialogue. Whatever the case, the buck starts and stops with Lucas. There are a few possibilities: 1. He got the performances he wanted, that he considered good and appropriate, and its just an unfortunate case of his taste equaling bad acting for many in the audience 2. The actors were stinking it up, and Lucas made a sincere and competent attempt to correct it but was unable to because of the lack of acting talent - again, this is unlikely 3. The actors were stinking it up and Lucas tried to correct it but was unable to do so because of a lack of ability in dealing with flesh and blood actors 4. The actors were stinking it up and Lucas realized it but decided he didn't want to put forth the effort to fix it, or in other words he didn't feel like directing better performances out of them. And you shouldn't blame the ILM people for soul-less cgi; again it is Lucas who has determined that there must be so much cgi, so many cgi characters, and digital work on every last shot. One could say the actors and the crew should have spoken up (ala Harrison Ford), but maybe they thougt it was pointless. Maybe they lacked the familiarity with Lucas that Ford had that made him comfortable calling Lucas' lines shit. And of course, maybe they did. Wasn't there something on this site about Lucas having a falling out with one of the actors? Maybe they did get frustrated. Who knows. But whoever made the comment about the dvd extra: I agree that it would be very interesting to see how Lucas actually handled the directing chores.
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You know, a lot of people genuinely like these movies. They are not 'fooling' themselves. They are not in denial. They like them. More than dislike them I'd bet. The audience polling done for both movies proves that. Personally, I think they have been alright and good, but could have been much much much better. I don't think they came close to their potential. I think its a shame that the series peaked with its second installment (Empire Strikes Back), and I think its a shame that Lucas didn't let a better writer script the new ones (at least the love story) and a better director (of human beings) direct them. But whats done is done. We'll never know how big a Prequel trilogy of Empire level quality would have been. In my mind such a series would have produced a $500 million grossing first installment in 1999, and $400 million follow-ups. But anyway; one thing Lucas did do very well was the casting of the three leads. McGregor/Portman/Christensen are all talented, and could have shined in their roles had they been given more to work with. You can't have it both ways and say Lucas is an awful writer and a terrible director of people and then turn around and blame the actors and expect them to make gold out of what you call shit. I mean, you could if not for the fact that virtually every cast member has received mostly good reviews for their acting in work not written and directed by George Lucas. But they have, so its clear George Lucas has extracted from them a unique style of acting. Some say its 'stiff' and 'wooden' and 'lifeless' and 'bored'. Lucas claims its intentional. Who knows? I mean, I think Portman and Christensen do have good chemistry in AOTC that is on the verge of breaking out many times only to be buried beneath Lucas's bizarre and distracting dialogue. Whatever the case, the buck starts and stops with Lucas. There are a few possibilities: 1. He got the performances he wanted, that he considered good and appropriate, and its just an unfortunate case of his taste equaling bad acting for many in the audience 2. The actors were stinking it up, and Lucas made a sincere and competent attempt to correct it but was unable to because of the lack of acting talent - again, this is unlikely 3. The actors were stinking it up and Lucas tried to correct it but was unable to do so because of a lack of ability in dealing with flesh and blood actors 4. The actors were stinking it up and Lucas realized it but decided he didn't want to put forth the effort to fix it, or in other words he didn't feel like directing better performances out of them. And you shouldn't blame the ILM people for soul-less cgi; again it is Lucas who has determined that there must be so much cgi, so many cgi characters, and digital work on every last shot. One could say the actors and the crew should have spoken up (ala Harrison Ford), but maybe they thougt it was pointless. Maybe they lacked the familiarity with Lucas that Ford had that made him comfortable calling Lucas' lines shit. And of course, maybe they did. Wasn't there something on this site about Lucas having a falling out with one of the actors? Maybe they did get frustrated. Who knows. But whoever made the comment about the dvd extra: I agree that it would be very interesting to see how Lucas actually handled the directing chores.
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So what? The reason Star Wars Ep IV is given such mythical status? We were kids dammit! I saw that when I was knee high to a Jawa (urgh, sorry) and loved it. It's all about the memories, going to that crappy cinema, the toys, it colours your youth. The problem is... the film has dated badly, a lot of people refuse to notice it, they're called geeks, fucking deal with it. The world is full of geeks, music, TV, film. But as I was saying, everytime we watch the movie, it's like we're 6 again, seeing it for the first time. Show it to someone mid 20's who's never grown up with the Star Wars mythos and (quite rightly) he'll think it's a piece of shit. Empire is better, but only because Lucas handed the reigns to another director, it's dark as hell and the Vader / Luke confrontation is dynamite. Jedi is... well, it's muppets in space, very poor movie, it tries really hard in the last 20 minutes with some brilliant space battles and the lightsaber fight, but Luke's dreadful bowl cut removes the coolness factor. As does Howard the Duck, his other great masterpiece, I can't wait for the DVD of that. Lucas fucked himself up the arse with the Star Wars special editions. All he had to do was 'remaster' them, clean them up, redo the soundtracks. But no, overkill. Phantom Menace was poor sure, good points? the opening theme, the perfect scrolling logo, the pod race... and the three way lightsaber battle, that's pretty much it. AotC was the same, poor acting, poor everything... except for the lightsaber fights and the ending battle. Forget about Yoda, that froggy bitch owns all your arses. Roll on episode III, some cool lightsaber battles (spotting a theme here), a few nice space bits, kill off the Rasta fish alien, we're all happy. You don't like Star Wars? Don't go to see it, you have a choice. Play nice people, respect your fellow geeks and let us have our moment.
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the only point worth mentioning here is that, when 2004 comes to a close, and tax season is upon us in 2005, GL's self-typed W2 is more than everyone who contributes to this site in anyway combined, times 100. and, despite what anyone will say in response to this post, your W2 is all that matters in this life. AND...if you think it doesn't, it's b/c you're not yet out of college, and if you are, it's b/c you have a masters degree in art history and you're a barrista at starbuck's. my W2 showed $131k for 2003 and I'm no closed to GL than you, your family, and EVERY ancestor you can trace your lineage back to, all the way to Abraham. again, bash his movies all you want, he's worth like a billion dollars or something insane like that, and while he may be fat, he can diet. but you, me and Harry will still be broke. enjoy your weekend!
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Come on guys we all have to see it wether it bombs or not because it will finally be complete adnw e can get on with our lives (RoTK left me feeling like it wasn't over but this one will). There's no way anyone of you won't see it. Won't your curiosity eat you alive? Ok, sure the prequels were not that good, most of us will admit, but this lat one will finish it an it will be over. The one thing that bothers me is why does everyone concentrate so much on darth vader and not on the emperor? Where did he come from? Where did he get his powers? What's his story? Did he have a mother or a dadoo? (dad from animaniacs don't ask)
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Unless you mean starting with A New Hope and just pretending that Eps I-III never existed.
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nah! No way. I hear what you are saying - but I think it's the younger audience that is lining up for these films. I never saw ep II in a theater and will not be going to ep III. Also wont be buying the original trilogy on DVD if the original versions are not included. I have the original VHS and the widescreen SE VHS - that is pleanty. See, I think what has happened with SW, is that it has gone multi-generational (especially with the frist 2 on dvd and cable now). The money they make at the box office and through liscensing (of EVERYTHING) is only partly from original trilogy fans now (and a pretty small percentage at that). The majority is a new audience - some of whom I have heard myself talk about how cheesey the "old ones" are. Just a thought - but I know that even at Ep I - there were not a lot of people there my age. And most that were brought there chillins...passing the torch if you like.
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May 08, 2004 5:07:44 AM CDT
EPIII will probably suck, but I'll see it anyways just as Grimlo
by krylite
Hey Grimloch, I will never be buying the "special edition" trilogy. I've got my own 1989 remastered sound only edition of ANH vhs. I have the AOTC DVD but I can't bear to watch it again since I first viewed it. Thinking about selling it back used. I will be getting the ROTK SE DVD and I know you will too along with the TTT EE and FOTR EE you already have. cheers.
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You nailed perfectly.It is out of respect for the originals that the stars wars prequels are critized.Until I saw the clone wars cartoons i thought that the excitement and epic levels were just me being a kid.But it wasn't.It lives in the artists that Lucas inspired and that is the problem.I think some of the younger ACIN crew don't realize what Star Wars represented.It came out in a time where there wasn't such a large amount of sci-fi or fantasy out there to dilute the level.And it was the greatest thing we had seen to that point.So when we (I) heard that Star Wars was returning we thought that George was coming back to show the pretenders how it was done.When I saw Episode 1 i truly thought i had been given a pirate copy(The film came out later here than in the US but you know...) with effects and story missing(as a footnote it was the last must have pirate video).That was the day enthusiasm for Star Wars as a untouchable went.All the haters came out of the woodwork,laughed it off and where replaced by fans arguing with fans who's respect and happy memories were tarnished.To all the people who can objectively like or love the new films good for you respect,fair play.But to me and maybe others this these films were a missed oppurtunity and could of been the greatest thing ever and thats why......I'll be there but i'm just neutral and happy to see it for what it is rather than what we thought it should be(or could of been)In hindsight it is easy to say but in my opinion George Lucas prehaps should of headhunted the most talented guys around today,put them together with the original effects guys,explained to them what he wanted to acheive,and let them go for it.Its just a shame he can't pinpoint what we loved about Star Wars in the first place.It's not his fault as such,it's just he's out of touch and surrounded by people who have talent but not as much imagination or inspiation to create and innovate like he and his original team did.I could go deep but thanks for reading this.It's not out of hate.
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Do the prequel haters really think they're going to convince anybody that Episodes 1 and 2 were bad? I'll never claim the prequels are perfect, but I enjoy the hell out of them. But if someone didn't like the prequels I don't think I could ever convince them that they were good movies. Are the haters just arrogant enough to think that the power of their annonymous internet ramblings are going to change minds across the globe? Amazing. In terms of quality, I like to rank the movies as follows, from best to worst: IV, V, II, I, VI. But I enjoy each movie immensely on it's own terms. People love to bitch about dialog and the overuse of CG effects and blah, blah, blah, but the single biggest difference in terms of quality between the prequels and the original trilogy is casting. The original trilogy, thanks in large part to Harrison Ford, had the kind of casting magic that could only occur through sheer luck. The prequels have had a mixed bag regarding actors with some excellent (Ewan McGregor, Ian McDiarmid), some decent (Liam Neeson, Yoda), some bad (Hayden Christensen), and some horrible (Jake Lloyd, Natalie Portman). But casting aside, I've found the prequel story to be richer than the overly simplistic story of the original trilogy, the effects and action are much better in the prequels (I love how some people bitch about Yoda's lightsaber duel but give a pass to the lame-as-all-fuck Obi Wan/Vader battle in Episode IV), and, prequel or original trilogy, few movies can match the power of John Williams' Star Wars scores. But let the haters go ahead and try in futility to convince people that the prequels are terrible. I'll be in the theater for Episode III on opening day in a jam-packed theater full of people having a great time at the movies while you sad, miserable fucks are madly banging away at your keyboards trying in vain to "warn" people away. Good luck.
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May 08, 2004 2:55:21 PM CDT
It is Aragorn who says "What does your heart tell you?", not Ga
by brashhulk
To which Gandalf replies with a soft, hesitant smile. If you folks insist on quoting movies to support your arguments, at least get your references correct.
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You know, a lot of people genuinely like these movies. They are not 'fooling' themselves. They are not in denial. They like them. More than dislike them I'd bet. The audience polling done for both movies proves that. Personally, I think they have been alright and good, but could have been much much much better. I don't think they came close to their potential. I think its a shame that the series peaked with its second installment (Empire Strikes Back), and I think its a shame that Lucas didn't let a better writer script the new ones (at least the love story) and a better director (of human beings) direct them. But whats done is done. We'll never know how big a Prequel trilogy of Empire level quality would have been. In my mind such a series would have produced a $500 million grossing first installment in 1999, and $400 million follow-ups. But anyway; one thing Lucas did do very well was the casting of the three leads. McGregor/Portman/Christensen are all talented, and could have shined in their roles had they been given more to work with. You can't have it both ways and say Lucas is an awful writer and a terrible director of people and then turn around and blame the actors and expect them to make gold out of what you call shit. I mean, you could if not for the fact that virtually every cast member has received mostly good reviews for their acting in work not written and directed by George Lucas. But they have, so its clear George Lucas has extracted from them a unique style of acting. Some say its 'stiff' and 'wooden' and 'lifeless' and 'bored'. Lucas claims its intentional. Who knows? I mean, I think Portman and Christensen do have good chemistry in AOTC that is on the verge of breaking out many times only to be buried beneath Lucas's bizarre and distracting dialogue. Whatever the case, the buck starts and stops with Lucas. There are a few possibilities: 1. He got the performances he wanted, that he considered good and appropriate, and its just an unfortunate case of his taste equaling bad acting for many in the audience 2. The actors were stinking it up, and Lucas made a sincere and competent attempt to correct it but was unable to because of the lack of acting talent - again, this is unlikely 3. The actors were stinking it up and Lucas tried to correct it but was unable to do so because of a lack of ability in dealing with flesh and blood actors 4. The actors were stinking it up and Lucas realized it but decided he didn't want to put forth the effort to fix it, or in other words he didn't feel like directing better performances out of them. And you shouldn't blame the ILM people for soul-less cgi; again it is Lucas who has determined that there must be so much cgi, so many cgi characters, and digital work on every last shot. One could say the actors and the crew should have spoken up (ala Harrison Ford), but maybe they thougt it was pointless. Maybe they lacked the familiarity with Lucas that Ford had that made him comfortable calling Lucas' lines shit. And of course, maybe they did. Wasn't there something on this site about Lucas having a falling out with one of the actors? Maybe they did get frustrated. Who knows. But whoever made the comment about the dvd extra: I agree that it would be very interesting to see how Lucas actually handled the directing chores.
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May 08, 2004 10:21:31 PM CDT
ANAKIN SKYWALKER, THESE ARTICLES ARE COMPLETE FABRICATIONS!!!!
by nick beam
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Having read the responses to superhero hypes EPISODE III pics, all i can say is this MISTER GRIMLOCH IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!! all you little jedi junkie bitches will be cowering down to suck Lucas's hairy bean bag. Why? because secretly your like the rest of us. Despite the fact that you (blatant) virgins sit their bitching and whining, you'll all buy the DVD's of the original trilogy. Why? so you can say you own it, or you can say your aunt mable bought it for your birthday and you dont have the heart to return it. yes the prequels are dire in comparison to the originals, but how many of you moaning fucks were actually their the first time?????? Exactly. I personally am looking forward to viewing the originals through a hefty DTS system. So if you dont like it TOUGH SHIT!!!!!
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Seriously! All the crappy love scenes that made me cringe were gone! It was great!
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Whats his deal? AOTC was good..not great..but good. Phantom sucked except for the light sabre battle with maul which KICKED ASS!
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May 09, 2004 3:05:06 AM CDT
Does anyone seriously believe that if Star Wars episode 4 were r
by theginger twit
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Episode III could be titled The Life and Times of Jar Jar Binks and I would still be there on opening night stonned as a M.F loving it every minute of it (cheese and all). The P.T is no different as the O.T but people seem to remember the OT as something it is not and never was.
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I always get a kick out of watching prequel defenders use the old Trilogy flaws to cover for the new ones. Honestly, guys, 25yr old films cannot validate the existence of the new flicks. Lucas had plenty of time to make sure the new movies stood on their own against all the other contemporary filmfare out there, rather than settle for comparison to the predecessors. Damn right, expectations were higher; Lucas himself raised the entertainment bar decades ago and had no one but himself to blame for the challenge to match or beat his own standards. To see the new films compared technically to the old ones in script or dialogue, and have ONLY that a basis, is essentially just a big reminder of how good the OT was back in it's age, and just how little Lucas has come after all this time. The bashers who use the old films against the prequels as a measure of quality aren't doing the new films any favors, and the defenders who take the same track to counter, are simply helping to prove the basher's points. For myself, I actually approve of the political plotlines and underlying schemes developed in both Ep 1 and 2, but unfortunately Lucas' plot writing seems to be his sole, primary strength, not his character development nor his sense of direction. The smartest thing he ever did was hand the director's chair for ESB to Irvin Kershner while he kept plugging away at the scripts. Right now the prequels represent a lot of lost potential. If Lucas adds 15yrs of maturity and depth to the atmosphere of Ep3 and it succeeds, at the least we'll have one amazing prequel film to cheer about.
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I'd bet money on that being the title
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