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ALIEN VS PREDATOR new featurette... it really is looking cool!
Hey folks, Harry here with the latest featurette from ALIEN VS PREDATOR -- and ya know what... it looks extremely cool. Everything about the project is looking cool, and I'm really really hoping to be served a big dish of 'crow' this August. I really want this to be cool. Because it certainly looks like VAN HELSING will bomb.
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even if it is a video game movie made by the devil.
So Harry, are you finally done pissing in the wind concerning Van Helsing? It sucks, everyone says it sucks, the trailers suck, the director sucks. So hopefully your mention of it bombing in this article is an indicator that you will stop using your Jedi mind tricks to convince people to go see it cuz it's "so bad, it's good."
Off topic - I finally saw Poolhall Junkies, another movie that Harry inexplicably shilled for months on this site. Worst.Movie.Ever. It was like a movie written by, directed by, and starring Christopher Walken's 15 year old nephew, which would explain why Mr. Walken appeared in this turd. -
this movie is a no-lose proposition. both franchises have been great fun to watch, even with the typical erosion of coolness most sequels endure. 5 years ago, anything further from the franchises would've been considered gravy, now we've got it. i'll take a lukewarm alien or predator movie anytime over the latest cgi horseass (read: van helsing). and i think this thing will be a damn sight better than 'lukewarm'.
stay tuned for van helsing II - sammy returns. he'll be singing all your favorites - runnin' with the devil, ain't talkin' bout love and best of worlds. -
These featurettes always make everything look crappy. Also, folks, it's AntarCtica. With a "C" in the middle. sk
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WTF Nails? ALIENS is superior to the original. Go ahead and flame me fanboys... deep down, you know I'm right.
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who cares about the AvsP. alien 3 & 4 sucked and so did Predator 2 with Danny Glover. why would a movie uniting 2 awful franchises(due to their last films) be any good?
Frankly i dont care about this movie and i'm not sure if i remember correctly but if the director is the same guy who did Resident Evil then i know this movie will be crap. -
You heard it here first. People are still aching for sci-fi fantasy. The Alien and Predator brands will carry the day, not this Van Nutsuck garbage.
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I'm glad he got really great actors, because it takes really great actors to go "AAAAAHHHH!!!!" and then let FX make a crunching sound over their dead bodies.
And did anyone else laugh really hard at "En...vi-ron...mentalist?" Reminded me of an old SNL sketch where Phil Hartman was a scientist selling non-alcoholic hair spray: "It's good for the en-vi-ron-ment." Hehe.
Sorry, Harry, but this movie is going to more of a disappointment than Soldier, because you're going to hate yourself for allowing yourself to get so excited about a director than continually churns out crap. -
I mean come on...Make up your mind...are you an Alien movie, Predator movie, or Tomb Raider??? Please, gimme something original!
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Paul WS Anderson couldn't direct traffic. Only steven soderberg could.
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Apr 27, 2004 5:39:52 PM CDT
i heard this sucker was rated nc-17 because we see some predator
by johnnybluejeans
which begs the question, how do predators and/or aliens make babies and all?
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why is lance henrickson in this one too?
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That skeletal-like mask is awesome. I could really careless about the Aliens. I got everything I wanted with the second film and the great special effects in Resurrection (bad movie, awesome to see aliens in new action). I can't help but that one of the Two space invaders is going to get shafted in regard to screen time and/or importance to the plot. I can imagine the aliens being the main threat and the predators being simply a deus ex machina force. Or it could go in the opposite direction (this is what I really suspect) where the aliens are in the beginning but then take a backseat to the much smarter and more powerful predators. In that case, the aliens will be dropping like flies and there won't be any real sense of threat from them; they just won't be scary. I really don't think we are going to get the best of both worlds.
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Van Helsing will have at least a $45 million opening and go on to $180 million.Said it b4,say it again,the general public don`t give a FUCk about what this site has to say!
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1) Sanaa Lathan is FINE. 2) I hope this movie is good and does well but I am not holding my breath. We'll see though :)
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Where is today's "Robocop" or "Predator" or "Aliens"? When will something come along again like "Die Hard" or "Terminator 2"? I don't want to see these ideas recycled, but I want something in the same testosterone-filled, solidly action-packed vein. I think they all DID end with "The Last Action Hero."
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Apr 27, 2004 5:56:48 PM CDT
Why is it that Harry gets so excited about such bad movies?
by boxclocke
I mean, really, nobody hates it more than me to see all the people who spend all their time flaming him in the talkbacks (if you don't like it, junior, get your own damn website!), but... the guy has got bad taste. He actually seems shocked and appalled at the overwhelmingly bad reception that Van Helsing is getting.
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Umm,,,Resident evil again..the most generic characters ever? Where is the token Chinese and Indian guy? The sets look terrible! The Alien and Predators look cool..but we already know that. I am sure the story is going to suck to.
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Apr 27, 2004 6:12:52 PM CDT
Did you get the feeling they wanted us to know that there are "g
by darksider
Heh. At least Lance Henriksen is in the movie as well as that cool black guy from Anderson's Resident Evil. I hope they actually get screen time and not be cameo fodder.
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Sanaa Lathan is a gorgeous piece of ass. The camera operator has a "LXG" top - not promising. Lance Henriksen looks BLOODY OLD!!! PWS Anderson seems to be a knob. And he looks disturbingly like Danny wallace. -
Gotta remember that. If he lived in Resident Evil it would have been a much better film to me. He's got that perfect military/leader/hard-ass thing going.
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Apr 27, 2004 6:36:24 PM CDT
Who will kill W. S. Anderson and thusly become a world hero?
by salvatoregravano
Not that I care much at this point. The original ALIEN stands for unmatched brilliance. Camoron's ALIENS is a puddle of celluloid puke, a flick for 12 year olds, with guns, stupid jokes, "tuff guys", very loud explosions and no ambience. Or soul. It abandons the original concept of an intelligent Alien for a bunch of completely camoronic ants. ALIEN 3 is decent enough but can't save the series. ALIEN: RESURRECTION is rather like Batman & Robin - only, to make it even worse, it's french. And this - this has W. S. Anderson; need I say more?
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I agree, Ridley Scott is 1000 times the director James Ham-eron is. Gladiator vs Titanic. Alien vs. Aliens. Terminator vs. Blade Runnner. Black hawk Down vs. True Lies. The guy casts TOM ARNOLD for crying out loud!!! I rest my case.
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... I am just worried that they may be showing us TOO much before the film finally lands in the theatres. From everything I've seen, I know that this film is being made by a true fan of the Alien franchise and not just a director looking to beef up his resume with a guaranteed box office hit. The cinematography looks great, the premise is interesting, and it even appears that there will be some dialogue in the film! lol Seriously, I did have some reservations about that considering some of the writer/director's earlier work. Anyway, all is looking fine so good luck to you, Mr. Anderson, and save a few surprises for us.
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Can you hear the bomb going off? And I like "really good actors", but usually in really good movies.
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I can't download this thing at work. Why are all bosses assholes? Why can't they give me a decent computer? What the fuck am I suppossed to do after I'm all done with my paperwork? I shall buy myself a six pack of cerveza with some chips and dip and enjoy the trailer at home...CHEERS Amigos!
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...that this would be based on the dark horse comic where it was revealed that the aliens were actually created by the predators and sent out on those ships like the one on lv426 to serve as a sort of rigth of passage for young predators.i thought that was a cool approach and i hope they do something similar in the movie.the whole arctic thing sounds pretty cool tho.i dont know i loved the comic so im there no matter what.hey didnt harry dislike this movie and even go so far as to say the movie had these bulky ass predators and some silver aliens?not sure why all of a sudden its changing up but after that whole punisher thing im trying to take pretty much evrything mister knowles says with a huge chunk of salt.and hey "this movie sucks nuts"is about as clever as that whole hulk hogan thing or whatever that people on TB swear is funny shit.someone yelled out this movie sucks nuts,big deal get over it.as tired as im rick james bitch
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Did your boss get you mad enough to cross the border? He sure sounds like an asshole!
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this film will suck Van Helsings cock
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Apr 27, 2004 7:06:34 PM CDT
Is anyone forgetting one minor plot detail? PREDATORS ONLY GO T
by stormin
They reiterate that again and again and again in the two Predator films, and, as much as I think this movie will be cool, they shouldn't have lazily thrown out this major continuity point simply because it didn't fit their idea for a cool setting. Maybe they'll explain it in the flick, I sure as hell hope so. And where's my boy Tommy "Scarface" Flanagan? That Scottish dude owns! Put him in the next trailer, bastards! He could kick Colin Salmon's ass in 5 seconds.
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Aliens is better than Alien.
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I'm a huge fan of the alien movies (yes, I even liked the 3rd and 4th ones, although they are inferior to Scott's film), and the first Predator. But this has me wincing... It's not the way I would have done an AvP film. This just has "The Thing Ripoff" written all over it. I mean - can't you just hear the studio execs. Imagine the scene from "The Majestic" - "I have a what if? What if we have Aliens meets Predator meets The Thing? You know, Aliens and Predators, and put them in Antarctica, on the set of The Thing. Wouldn't that be great?" Someone needed to just get up and walk away.
Oh yeah - and about the setting in the cold temperature - assuming there was once a time when Antarctica was once warm, it's plausible. We don't know anything about that tomb yet - or where the Predator in this movie comes from. My guess is some sort of cliche Holywood "suspended animation" thing... who knows. Hell, the whole movie is probably going to be one big cliche. -
but the first alien was boring.the only cool part to me was when the android flipped out but overall it dragged.i went to see it when it was rereleased and felt the same way as before so i prefer aliens but the entire series fell off after that one.as for the cold weather thing,not to keep bringing up the comics but there was a dark horse predator series called cold war where the preds came down in the artic and it worked pretty ok.but i didnt like the first alien so go ahead and flame away
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ALien is the best of the series; Aliens was the worst. Still a good movie but as far as I'm concerned it's too goofy, too formulaic, and lacks the art direction of the other three. Alien vs predator doesn't seem to be part of the same series.
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Apr 27, 2004 7:31:40 PM CDT
Jesus, Harry. I didn't realise it was so easy to pull the wool o
by mansep
What is it exactly that you saw that you thought was cool? Even in this clip there were so many clich
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but is harry crapping in egg in what looks like an old x-men costume supposed to be from some movie?
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Fuck this bullshit. As an avid, hardcore Alien films fan (I own the Quadrilogy), I must protest this sorry excuse for a cash-in on two franchises, one brilliant and the other retarded.
This movie will TRIVIALIZE the Alien films, which are real post-modern science fiction, that is ABOUT something. This movie turns it into an action movie, for brainless action movie American audiences who just want to see the Alien fight Predator, who watched the alien films for pure entertainment value and nothing more. It's mindless, its stupid, and just an excuse to make money.
ALSO, all of you that talk shit on Alien 3, I encourage you to check out the Special Edition version available on the Alien Quadrilogy box set, it really honestly puts the third one up to par with Alien and Aliens. I'm not kidding. The studio practically cut a whole fucking hour out of the original version director David Fincher wanted, so, its really worth a look. Theres so much more subplot and footage that makes part 3 a really great film. -
Apr 27, 2004 7:37:14 PM CDT
Why do people on this site like the word "utter" so much?
by misterblonde
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the original AVP graphic novel would have made a brilliant movie and its was about da right lenght it was almost like a story board. I think hes locallised da action too much by setting it in the Arctic, it may as well not be set on Earth at all. Comparing Alien and Aliens is futile its like comparing The Terminator and Terminator 2, one is a horror movie and one is an action movie. And jesus Paul AAnderson does look like Danny Wallace, I wonder if he's a joinee, infact i wonder how many of you guys are joinee's.
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I live in Cancun. I've got my house next to the beach and make good money, Pesos & Dollars. I take home a different white chick (American or European) almost daily as soon as they find out about my house and I'm not counting the local cuties. SHIT, I'M INTERNATIONAL! Oh, and I'm restoring a 1967 Shelby Mustang. I just don't like my computer at home...CHEERS Amigo!
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the more it would have been great for avp to be based off the original comic book.i remember i was something like 13 when i came out and it just rocked ass!ill never forget getting the last issue in the series and seeing predator 2 on the same weekend.when they showed the alien skull on board the ship i about shit myself.whiy do people make predator 2 out to be so horrible?sure its not like the groundbreaking 1st one but its not garbage.frankly id rather watch P2 than alien 4 altho i am intrigued by the post mentioning how on dvd alien 3 is much cooler.i might put that on my netflix que.hey does anyone remember the superman vs predator comic?that had some of that whole pyramid and lost civilazation thing too.
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I meant to say that I didn't like my computer at work. Blame it on the cerveza...CHEERS Amigos!
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So does Van Helsing, even after the horrible trailers and the reviews that pan it completely.
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Apr 27, 2004 8:33:47 PM CDT
The camera guy had a "League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen" shirt/s
by iamlegolas
Could it be a sign that this movie will blow!! And the Predators in this one look more like guy's in suits than Predator and Predator 2. You can't just throw these guys in suits in front of a camera and shoot them, they have to be shot correctly in order for them to be A) cool looking and B) scary as hell. Ah f*ck it. Why did I even bother looking in here, I knew what I was going to see already.
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Apr 27, 2004 9:09:57 PM CDT
I agree, the quadrilogy special edition versions of Alien 3 & 4
by mad hamish
They still don't equal the first two films, quality-wise, but I actually enjoyed them far more than the original theatrical editions. I like how smart-assed and "Joss Whedonesque" Resurrection is (I forgot he wrote it), especially the line which explained that Weyland-Yutani had been bought out by Walmart sometime after Alien 3.
AvP is going to be the worst one (damn you PWS Anderson), but like a moth to a flame, I'm still going to see it. Let's hope it'll be successful enough to springboard Ridley Scott's Alien 5 project. -
this movie comes off looking WAY to much like a Sci_fi channel "original" shitfest than anything right now.
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Stop whining you "it's cool to be pessimistic slobs" this looks good. Anderson may surprise us all.
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i dont understand all the negativity towards this movie.im there opening night.hellboy blows
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But PWSA projects are eternally hopeless. Harry, how many duds does this guy gotta make before you catch on? Any element of coolness about this project, like any of his movies, is superficial. The concept is great. Aliens and Predators are great creations. That's where it ends. PWSA will do what he always does -- take a great concept and turn it into a wholy generic, utterly lackluster movie.
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If it makes enough cash, Fox will greenlight a Ridley Scott (directed/involved/whatever) Alien 5.
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I buncha DUMB shit "scientists" who get trapped , and trapped again, and WHOA WATCH THAT DOOR! DOH, we're Trapped.
I mean, isn't a predator supposed to hunt outdoors. so what the fuck is he always doing in alleys and hallways?
Gimme a break people, this movie is gonna be shit because paul Anderson has consistently GIVEN you shit.
Allowing BISHOP in the movie to allow continuity fucken is a slap in any fans face. Ask any fan why this film fails in continuity in every aspect. #1 the fact that it takes place on earth at all .
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I don't know, it just looks cheap. All the sets look like the usually Anderson sets, they just look too plastic and clean. And the characters look lame. I wish this was more like The Passion of the Christ; serious, brutal and with no english, just Predator and Alien talk, with the only humans dying in the first twenty minutes. Oh well, I hope it doesn't suck I have been wanting this movie to exist since I was in 1st grade.
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After some of the snarky comments between Dan O'Bannon and the others on the Quadrilogy DVDs, a great movie would be to get the Thomas Brothers from Predator and the two sets of warring scriptwriters of the original Alien into a sarcasm war over their creations and the notion of AvP, maybe make it a Project:Greenlight. I'd prefer that it devolve into a girlie slap-fight. But I'll buy the AvP DVD. Every movie is a shining example of the wonderously twisted world of business, technology, creativity, and *cough* art. Sure, PWS has proven he's incapable of providing a decent script for subjects that nearly write themselves. As the flames are already flying, I want to cast my support for the dude who complained that "Alien" was boring. I don't agree, but that's because I was sold on the movie before seeing "Aliens". But I understand it. Just as I understand people saying "Aliens" is derivative. It would seem like that was true if you were young because so many movies are derivative of it. Except for some tired geeklectuals who might try to tie it to wacky westerns or foreign flicks, if you look at it in the context of its time its quite original in all the ways many are complaing: humor, mindless, etc. "Aliens" is quite clever, fun and onc it gets going quite a thrill-ride, and far more watchable on a repeat basis or for newbies than "Alien" which is really just a slick "Friday the 13th" in space. A reallllly slick, great movie, but of a different era. Hell, one of its much-maligned contemporaries, Peter Hyams' "Outland", is more viewer-grabbingly paced. But I like them all, all the "Alien" movies,, both of the "Predator" movies, they all have their moments, conversation-starters and twists on their original inspirations. I love "Alien: Resurrection", watch it the most of repeaters. And for the commentor who wants the next "Robocop" or "Die Hard", that innovation will be harder with today's technology and business model, which produces "Bad Boys II" (I love it, it's like Michael Bay got $100M to just piss away on mindless thrills and I fuckinluvedit). There are spacers, buddy, "The Matrix", "The Rock", "Swordfish", new twists on thrills. Like your first great bong hit you'll never get that feelin' again (cue Tom Cruise and Goose) as long as you keep bitchin' that you'll never have that feelin' again. Oh, almost forgot to utter the word "utter" for those counting the myriad of utterances. Oops, like Alec Baldwin said in "Malice", "you read"...
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Do you have no self esteem? "I take home different chicks when they find out about my house." That's nothing to be proud of. Someone who would take home someone who wanted to be with them for their money/possessions is a tool. Even if it's just sexual, please tell me how that's satisfying in the least? Find someone who wants to be with you for you and trust me, you'll live a much better life.
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Apr 27, 2004 11:01:30 PM CDT
Has there EVER been a good movie with "versus" in the title?
by osmosis jones
Oh, and the "Harry crapping an egg" animation is supposed to be a nod to Chicken Run. Way to stay current, Harry. When was the last time we got a brand new corner animation?
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Believe it or not, I've heard the same thing said about the Dark Horse comic series. What ever happend with the derelict ship and its pilot? Same biotechnology (a la Giger); why don't we go to the Predator / Alien world, with their language, and nearly no human perspective at all? No one thought the Passion would work, and look what happened.
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MAN!!! Their is an Alien! THeir is a Predator! WHat the HELL do you need to know from Characters?!?!?!?!?!?
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I offically say " SCREW YOU!!!" to all the people who have slammed this project w/o even giving it a chance.
Thanks HARRY for finally stepping away from your hatred of this movie, & looking @ it w/ an unobstucted view. I look forward to this movie & I hope it will help bring back these 2 franchises. Fans deserve it. -
Apr 28, 2004 12:00:22 AM CDT
Does "Charles Bishop Weyland" really need to be in this?
by hammer & pickle
Ash, the original android played by Ian Holm in ALIEN, was built by another company called Hyperdyne! Now we're supposed to believe that Bishop was based on Charles Weyland, the co-founder of Weyland-Yutani? Christ, if the company was into robotics since before ALIEN, why didn't they use Bishop then? Why didn't he make an appearance until 57 years after the first movie? Fucking Paul W.S. Anderson. Oh well, I guess it could be worse. At least George Lucas isn't directing this thing...
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Aliens is far, far superior to Alien. Not that Alien isn't a bad film, just that Aliens is far, far superior.
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...somebody's gonna start cryin'.
Comparing the original Alien to Aliens as though they were the same kind of movie is way oversimplifying things. The first was a fantastic merger of the sci-fi and horror genres (something that hadn't gone over so well in movies like the original "The Thing") and gave us one of the most atmospheric, claustrophobic haunted-house-in-space scenarios of all time. The film was so ingeniously crafted and well shot that the Nostromo itself became a character with more personality and menace than the Alien. Aliens was a war movie in space... kind of like Apocalypse Now but more like Platoon in that we knew from the get-go who was going to survive the coming shitstorm and why (plus, despite the spectacular effects and incredible pacing, it had a very been-there-done-that feel to it). Don't get me wrong, Aliens may be the best war story in space ever told (depending on how you view the original Star Wars trilogy, I suppose). But if you think it was better at what it was trying to be than the film that paved the way for it, you have truly forgotten the face of your father. -
I just get that feeling,
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I'll admit, Lance Henriksen has a pretty neat role to tie in with the alien franchise.
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Why is it these days, that any film cast anywhere near LA or NY produces these overly buffed, chiseled/polished, teeth-whitened "actors". They look like they all just stepped out of GQ mag. Hey, here's an idea- so you're into realism mr. "director", how about putting some real looking people in those roles. What a lame oversight!
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predator's sick...it's true. it's faster and funnier then the first one. not better, i know...of course...but on a rainy night it's more accessible and easily enjoyable. and the ending's killer
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Funny how the director keeps praising the actors. Are you kidding me. THESE are great actors!?!!?! Besides Bishop who really cares if the rest dies. The acting is gonna be par with Resident Evil which is better than You Got Served, but just under Deuce Bigalow.
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So the last 2 Alien films tanked and so did Predator 2. So why make another?
Simply this: The first two Alien films did business. Lots of business. As did Predator.
A rather famous screenwriter wrote this 30 years ago: "Hollywood survives on past magic." Remakes. Adaptations. E.G. anything NOT original. Because anything original is a HUGE FRIGGIN RISK. A venture into the complete unknown. And unless you're Mike DeLuca you just don't do that very often. Not with $30 to $100 million of someone ELSE'S money. Not with your job dependent on box office popularity.
So much safer to finance a project that has proven, at least once, to be a winner.
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I remember in an interview around the time of EVENT HORIZON, it was said that he was offered, or being eyed for Alien 4, but he said something along the lines of "why add to a franchise when you can create something original?" (Event Horizon). Loos like he changed his mind - or could be something to do with his career being in the doldrums. Event Horizon was the only one of his films that looked like theatrical release quality.
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Apr 28, 2004 4:47:17 AM CDT
For the last time, the Alien was obviously stupid in 3
by domisinnerchild
The Aliens didn't get stupid in Aliens, they got stupid and lost their motivation in Alien 3. In Alien 3, the alien runs around killing all the monks for no apparent reason. It's not threatened (they have no weapons), it's not hungry (it sort of nibbles, but never munches an entire monk), and worst of all it KILLS ALL THE POTENTIAL HOSTS after noticing there's a queen in Ripley.
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I actually quite liked Resident Evil... although you could almost parallel it to Aliens in the first place... Have you noticed.
Bunch of marines turn up with a lone woman... most of them get wiped out in a surprise attack at the beginning. Then they slowly get picked off one by one until we come face to face with the big nasty monster at the end... You can even filter it down more... its so similar in so many places. Including finding the backstabbing member of the party, who then gets taken out in a really amusing way.
I wonder if Anderson even noticed he'd done this.
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...im still not liking ALIEN as much as I like ALIENS!I understand how to some people who saw this first it is a complete masterpiece but i saw ALIENS first,and it remains more watchable and therefore more meaningful to me.I like ALIEN,I was all about the re distribution or whatever that put it back in the movies(not as much as the big screen scarface,i must say,but alas that is an entirely different post)but i have to say when i did go watch it i felt 2 hours + drag.maybe becuase despite its creepy atmosphere and great acting it still boils down to a man in a suit.It never seemed real to me like the ones in aliens did,so insect-like and menacing.But anyways thats your opinion.Im not an asshole about mine other than to say that if hipothetically we knew each other and i came over for brunch some sunday and u suggested we watch ALIEN,after all the eating was said and done.At that great time on a sunday afternoon when you have a good 3 hours to kill before Sopranos but not enough energy to make a mission out of it,being hung over from the night before and all,if u were to suggest we sit down and watch ALIEN id balk at the idea and try to come up with some not rude way to get out of it.Simply because great movie aside it lacks watchability.Cinematically whatever its so there.but on a lazy sunday afternoon,before Sopranos disapoints for another week,im more about seeing space marines blasting some aliens with silly dialogue than i am about atmospheric space drama.My opinion.Same as ill be there opening night for AvP and also for Van Helsing.Some poster B4 me mentioned ho movies are supposed to be fun...Thats my motive...if i miss the nuance in the shading of the color palette and the hitchkokian undertones in the dialougue of the writers screenplay but have a good time its worth my ten bucks everytime.no fair flaming my spelling cuz im fucked up.and thus...aw fuck it i like goerge chicken....Kal out
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you got a lot to learn about life! and just because you are at a certain stage in your life doesn't mean others should be. lighten up! and the featurette looked good until they showed the actors. someone above got it right about their looks.
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...thanks for telling me what the whole harry thing was about in the corner animation.It kinda looked like cyclop's old yellow and blue thing from back in the day xmen but he was shitting an egg(popping a bubble of quentin's skeet)or whatever so i had to ask.thats pretty dumb.chiken run?what is that?was that like rat race?sounds similar.i know when i first heard of what that dumb gif animation was from i thought about rowan atkinson saying 'no pun intended'i know i dont have the ability to name drop movies so i do apologize.i come here a lot but mostly for the comic @ssholes thing.but recently im getting the distinct impression that harry knowles is very much disliked here,in his own website.I know i put in my 2 cents about his negative punisher review.apperantly its not the first time hes done this?but again thats another post.how do i close am i supposed to say 'this movie sucks nuts' or is the ever more popular im rick james bitch the way out?ive tried neither in a bar type enviornment but i can almost guarantee they would get me no play.so how about sticking to an original stament-hellboy blows
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Apr 28, 2004 7:46:41 AM CDT
I think there is a good film with the word "Versus" in the title
by shan
It's a film called "Versus" (from Japan).
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Its a real shame. When I first found out about this site I couldnt belive how fast they got the news, and how it was good to read other peoples opinions on the films been reported. But all I see on this site now is so much negativity its unreal. The AVP thing is a classic example. Here you have a film that a lot of people have been waiting to see, that from what ive seen so far looks promising, but because someone in a postion like Harrys, the trend has been set to hate this film before it even comes out. I dont understand the whole not liking the Paul WS Anderson thing. Personally, I dont think hes to bad. Sure, hes had a couple of misfires, but can someone tell me a director that has had 100% success? No? I didnt think so. Even the likes of Ridley Scott has had his box office disasters. Blade Runner. Now classed as a classic, but a box office disaster at the time. Paul WS Andersons films are directed to a target audience, its as simple as that. Same as anyone one in that position. So, not everyone is going to like the result. Fair enough, thats why people have opinions, it would be a dull world if we all liked the same thing. But for goodness sake, dont condem the man before youve even seen the film. How many people out there were really looking forward to the last 2 Matrix films, only to be dissapointed by them. I know I was, but I didnt know that until i had seen them. Get the point? By all means, have your opinions, but have you ever heard of a thing call innocent until proven guilty? Paul WS Anderson, if you happen to be reading this, I for one have no problems with you, and I look forward to seeing your film. And if you ever make anything in the future that appeals to me, im sure I will look forward to seeing that to. And for all those that are bashing the poor guy for what he's done (or is going to do before hes done it), id be more worried about other things that are happening in the world right now. At least films are a great escape from reality for a while, and thats his craft. Cut the guy some slack. Back to my original point, my opinions of this site has changed. Places like Comingsoon.net actually report movie news, not start a crusade to pin someone to a cross. Think about it.
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Well Said!
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in defending Anderson you basically compare him with ridley scott and Blade Runner. are you on drugs? How can you even think about comparing them after the crapfest that was soldier. you realise the are from the same universe, right?---------
and you say his flicks are directed at a specific audience: would that be under 80 IQ audience? --------- and then you argue that we should give AvP a chance based on the flawed logic that our expectations of the last two matrix films were crushed thus we shouldn't judge it until seeing it. i half agree with the whole don't judge a book by it's cover, but there was a big reason why people had expectations with the 2nd and 3rd matrix flicks. the first movie is considered a classic. what Anderson movie are you going to try and hold up to the first matrix film and call a classic?...resident evil? super nova? shopping perhaps? squat, that's what. ---------- and the reason why so many people are frustrated with him is because he takes so many fanboy dream projects and turns them into blah...that's all, just blah. oh yeah, matrix revolutions SUCKED. i've ordered a quattro fromage pizza with less cheese in it than Matrix Revs. -
Wow, think ive touched a nerve here. I dont remember comparing Paul Anderson with Ridley Scott, im not crazy enough to do that. I just used Blade Runner as an example. All I wanted to put across is that not all films are great (or at least, not at the time), but should at least be seen before crushed by the public. Yeah, ok, the Matrix was a great film, but once again, missing the point. I just put them there to state that not everything is going to be as good, or bad, as the hype or critisism makes out. Oh, and im sure the film going public dont all have an IQ of 180, so like I said before, films are directed at a target audience. Try thinking outside of the box, theres a bigger picture here. Oh, and in case anyone thinks im bashing Blade Runner (and I can imagine if you read between the lines of my post, it might come across that way), im not. I think its a great film. In fact, while im that point, there are great films, and there are good ones. The great films stand the test of time, the good ones entertain me for a couple of hours. Is that what there meant to do?
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Oh, forgot to say in my last post. I wasnt comparing any particular film, im just saying that ir seems unfair to condemn Paul Anderson for been Paul Anderson. Give him a break. Go see the film, take it for what it is, then rip it to shreds after if you dont like it, thats your choice. But at least judge the film, and not the person behind it.
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This movie will suck. Not Alien 4 suck, but still pretty big suckage.
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no, i got your point and i sort of agree with the see it first approach as i said, but you really are a hollywood marketers wet dream. and i think you used really poor examples to back up your points. throwing anderson up against some of the classics is a tough sell (especially with his track record). and you asked why people have something against the guy- i explained. and if you are not aware, soldier was set in the blade runner universe. the script was fantastic and then along comes anderson and royally screws it up. catch my drift?
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Not a big fan of this sort of film, even though I've seen 'em all on DVD - but this one looks just fine. Should work and make big $$$$. Isn't that the point for the movie industry, the making money part, that is...?
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Ok, I used bad examples. Im sort of doing this on the fly, and at work! But try not take the examples to literally, there just there to get a point across. I do realise Soldier and Blade Runner are set in the same universe, I was just as excited about it as the next person when I found out. I didn
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Apr 28, 2004 9:55:07 AM CDT
Has there EVER been a good movie with "versus" in the title? - Y
by blok narpin
How soon we forget last Summer's second best movie, Freddy vs. Jason. Best album with vs. in the title: Aquabats vs. The FLoating Eye of Death.
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that's a great vs. movie!
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one can only hope she gets a spot in FHM, Maxim or Stuff very soon. Yum!!
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I keep thinking of points after ive made my post, heres another one. Another thing to take into consideration when making a film is budget and time. And if both are against you, that
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Apr 28, 2004 10:21:31 AM CDT
Indeed, practically all "versus" films are horrible...
by salvatoregravano
From "Dracula vs Frankenstein" to last year's dog vomit that was "Freddy vs Jason vs Warriors of Virtue vs Chucky vs a Moronic Hack from Hong Kong".
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... but what exactly is supposed to be cool about this whole project? It looks cheap, will drive two more once cool movie creatures into utter ridiculousness, and it has Paul Anderson dirceting it... so I guess i just miss your point here.
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and to all the others making a point about Predators only being able to go to warm places. That's not true. In the films they're said to be "drawn to" places of heat and conflict. If they have to, they can be seriously dangerous in all environments (as in Predator: Cold War). As for the temple in AvP, my guess it dates back to ancient times when Antarctica was free of ice. The reason Predators are drawn to it now is to stop the havoc about to be released by the meddling humans who have discovered it. Having Aliens overrun and destroy one of the Predators' favorite hunting planets seems like incentive enough to put up with the cold of the south pole, yes?
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God i wish u ppl wud shut the fuck up! Im sorry i fuckin love the alien and pred movies sicne i was a fuckin kid and i h8 paul ws anderson his films are complete piles of rancid shit, but im sorry from the clips and grt docs ive seen it loosk liek it cud b fuckin grt, no shit 1 liners and fuckin genral shitness it looks pronising. How u lot can cry and go mad over a few clips is beyond me, it looks like a fuckin alien film!
Judge it when it comes out u fuckin pricks, and so wot if harry said it loosk allright cus 1st off i thort it was gonna looks fuckin shit but at the moment it loosk like it cud b grt fun.
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I remember watching the Soldier DVD commentary (don't ask why...) and Anderson was speaking proudly about a small wink/nod to Blade Runner in the movie. Apparently a B.R. flying car is in the background of the Giant Dump Planet.
He said that he always imagined soldier and Blade Runner taking place in the same universe - that the two movies could be taking place concurrently.
Clearly, the man has a limited understanding of cinematic tone, texture and atmosphere to think Soldier and Blade Runner have ANYTHING in common other than a furturistic setting.
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It's fairly simple, so I hope Paul A. gets it. If the Predator kids don't make it, the Aliens can't get very far; they'll freeze or starve (remember their very fast metabolisms). The reason Weyland is excited about the find should be (note I'm not saying it is) is the fact that this 'heat bloom' is caused by a *clean* fusion reactor; if nothing else, stealing the secret of clean, efficient fusion would preserve the Weyland name in prosperity. And, if you remember, fusion reactors are an important part of Alien and Aliens.
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"don't even bother questioning that, i already wrote a paper proving it, it's published" - cancel the pretentiousness awards, we've got a lifetime acheivement award. TBers - please forward all further comments directly to nails to allow him to ascertain their merit.
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LOL, this is great, another debate over the best movie in a famous franchise! I love it! I gotta wonder though, why is there a need to establish which Alien movie was best? We all have our likes and dislikes. I still love the first two, both for totally different reasons. I didn
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Apr 28, 2004 1:34:57 PM CDT
People Who Haven't Seen The Movie And Say It Sucks... Suck Thems
by mako
Literally...
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Apr 28, 2004 1:51:29 PM CDT
Does anyone else here have constant trouble posting?
by excaliburffolkes
3/4 of the time I get an error mesage when trying to post. I don't even ever write anything vulgar or abusive. Just wondering if anyone else ever has constant trouble too. (of course, this probably won't post either).
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I, like every fan out there want this film to be foocking awesome!! But, from this latest feature it looks like Paul has taken his crap Resident Evil movie and chucked in a load of Aliens, Predators and Bishop and hoped for the best! Shit, I really want this movie to kick arse but I'm worried that Mr Anderson is gonna screw it all up! Sure the Aliens and Predators look the part and it all seems very high action, high concept blah blah blah, but Paul can't write for shit and unless he got someone with talent to tweak his draft then we are all gonna be let down. Here's hoping I'm wrong and Paul Anderson has made a masterpiece of sci fi horror!
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Alien < Aliens. I don't give a damn how many scholarly journals someone may be published in. This is entertainment, and Aliens is more entertaining than Alien. Predator is an awesome action flick with great dialogue. I liked Alien 3 even before buying the quadrilogy.
I think AvP looks pretty cool thus far, but I still have severe reservations.
There is my fragmented contribution.
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That would have made a much better movie. Anybody ever read the comic books? In the first meeting Robocop beats the holy fuck out of Terminator. It's pretty cool.
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Let me guess...the article on Alien was wedged right between a Critical Analysis of the Midichlorian and an advert for the 30th anniversary edition porcelain tricorder.
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I was making my point about not having the necessity to cross the border. I do not want to be in your statistics and dammit I'll drink to that...CHEERS Amigo!
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...looked as awkward and bulky as Travolta's Battlefield Earth aliens.
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...you think Alien < Aliens because you find a greater number of explosions and a higher testosterone quotient to be the defining elements of good cinema.
They're two very different kinds of movies. To call someone a pseudo-sophisticate simply because they prefer the intricacies of chess to the spectacle of NASCAR reveals the limitations of one's imagination and appreciation of the sublime.
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The teaser looked OK, sort of a THE THING crossed with TOMB RAIDER. It's just that we have had four ALIEN flicks, the last two fo which were immeasurably awful, and a PREDATOR sequelk that was about as bad as bad gets. So where is the value in this?
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If the aliens capture and cocoon their prey to use as hosts for their spawn, then what do the creatures consume for sustenance?
I have always wondered about this because a creature with such stunning agility and strength which we clearly see depicted as a predator - unless designed by bioengineering as a weapon (or by the Predators as quarry as one post mentioned about a previous comic series - the Alien must need some form of nutrition to sustain itself.
Has this question ever been addressed in the comics? What do the Predators, for that matter, eat since we only see them with weaponry hunting prey to have as trophies. Do the Predators merely fast during their hunts? I know the question seems irrevelant given their plot purpose, but I thought it might enrich the mythology surrounding the two if we are privy to more details about them. -
Alien vs. Predator vs. Jesus.
Who wins?
Find out in the new film by Mel Gibson, written entirely in Alien growls with optional Aramaic subtitles.
And coming soon: Stephen King and William Hurt collaborate on a blockbuster project by Fox Searchlight Pictures -- "Children of a Lesser Corn." -
Apr 28, 2004 7:11:14 PM CDT
Harry's "This is starting to look cool!" shtick is more likely j
by charles grady
Surprised more people haven't thought of that. By now, everyone knows about Harry's hardon for Paul Anderson, so he needs to spice it up with a new angle. Imagine how glorious Harry's screams of "hack!" will be when Sir Knowles can write the inevitable negative review where he pats himself on the back for getting his hopes up and wanting to bury the hatchet and see a NEW PWSA, only to be burned again by his filmmaking!
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Really, why let him direct anything, what , what, what has he done that is good? never let him direct again!
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a total piece of shit. Totally forgettable mid to late 20s actors in what looks like a totally forgettable action film.
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I dont know about the aliens but it was revelaed in Predator 2 that the Predators have an affinity for beef.Its also kind of touched upon in the first Avp comic since the planet it takes place on has cow like craetures called rinth.I think the aliens feast on name dropping intellectuals btu what do i know,im only a redneck
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You tools wouldn't know irony if it bitchslapped you in the face, arguing about this PvsA stuff. BTW Alien 1 is/was NOTHING NEW. I guess none of you have seen any old gothic horror stuff where people are in a big scary mansion (/spaceship/misty jungle) and get picked off one by one by the killer (/alien/alien). Mentioning a teen slasher flick was hilariously short-sighted. Just because Scott's movie had amazing production design (for people new to Giger), everyone mistakes it for 'groundbreaking'. Not to say it's not a great film, you guys just can't see the forest for the trees, or should I say jungle for the trees, as Predator is the same damn thing all over again, with the same structure, only transposed to another setting. Uh Nails? "This is America"??? You jingoistic twit! Maybe you want to revisit that one. This isn't the "Americanet" you know. Still, you did say "tasered their genitals", which was the funniest damn thing I've read all day. No wait - writing "prestigeous" was funnier.
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"Bill Paxton". You can analyze the relative merits of the two films all you want, you can talk about "chess" vs. "Nascar", yadda yadda yadda. But it doesn't matter, because BP is only in the plural. "Game over."
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Apr 28, 2004 10:04:31 PM CDT
Geekgasm moment: Weyland's base looked like the interior of the
by tall_boy
bring it on, baby.
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Apr 29, 2004 12:36:16 AM CDT
How about Jurassic Park crossed with Halloween, Elm Street, Frid
by sk909
Imagine that Michael Myers is about to commit a kill... then BOOM, a fucking brachiosaurus steps on his ass and that's it for those movies. Jason is, again, about to make a kill when suddenly, he realizes that the person he's chasing and has fallen(like they always do) was actually a dead person being carried on the back of a raptor that has PRETENDED to fall(cause raptors are smart and all) and when Jason goes in swinging his machete like a mad-man, three raptors come out and fucking tear his ass to shreds... not like that pussy crap where he got shot and blown up, I mean they really just pick the corpse clean, they eat the heart and then shit it out and you would actually see this raptor eat it and then we'd follow him around Camp Crystal Lake and we'd see that if you were scared to come here before, now you should be really fucking scared, cause there are sick maniac animals that don't want to just kill you, they want to eat you and shit you out... so when the metabolism catches up with him, we pan down to see the thing taking a dump and we all know it's Jason's heart. How about we have an exorcism and Regan's body is floating and the head is spinning and all that super-serious bullshit and Merrin is screaming "the power of christ compells you!" over and over and over again, and then FUCKING BLAM, finally the T-rex makes an appearance and he's smashed a huge gaping fucking hole in the side of their prim Washington, D.C. house... you see the mom come out from down stairs and she can actually see upstairs cause, you know, now there's no outer wall on the house any-fucking more and as she looks up to see that her house has been torn in half and momentarily forgets about her demonically possessed daughter... the T-Rex fucking eats her... then Regan is doing more of her stupid bullshit, talking like the devil, sticking her tongue out at the monster, trying to come up with some stupid sub-conscious shit that will scare it... it just stares at her like it has no fucking clue what's going on... and then she starts vibrating the bed and getting real crazy and floating and when she goes to hit the priest from behind cause their busy staring at the dinosaur in the side yard... the T-rex gives her an odd look and then he just swings down with that enormous head and eats the whole goddamn bed and snaps her whole fucking body in half and her legs fall to the ground... just another meal... then the priests, thinking this is either the devil or an agent of God start doing their chanting shit to him... again, he just eats their asses and the super-serious bullshit horror movie is now officially fucking over. This is a 'crossover' I would love to see. You can do it with anything... The Ring would be another great one... in the middle of watching the stupid fucking video, the girl realizes she's left her balcony door open and when she turns around screaming, there's a fucking pterodactyl there walking through her apartment, they smash the television with their beaks then grab the bitch in their enormous claws and carry her out over the city where they bite her head off and then drop her down to the pavement. Or how about the girl comes out of the television or whatever, and the guy is dragging himself across the floor and all that shit, when a spitter's head appears from behind the couch and just starts making that rattling sound 'baaahahahahahah - chika-chika-chika-chika-chika... baaaahahahhhhh' then he spits a huge glob of that poisonous shit at that stupid bitch from the television and she does that creepy walk towards the spitter, thiknking she's a bad-ass ghost character or whatever... so the spitter gives her that confused, fucking primieval, I just stepped out of the goddamn volcanic couldron soup of life and have no idea of anything except getting my next meal type... look, and then he just jumps on her face and fucking eats it and we see the spitter actually going through the whole face, just chewing on it and his eyes don't register so much as a slight change in mood, he's just relentlessly pulling apart her body and dismembering it and then swallowing, barely even showing enjoyment that he's gotten a meal. Then he turns around and eats the guy too. End of that film. This would just be so enjoyable. I also think it would be great to see that hook-hand dude from I Know What You Did Last Summer fall off of a boat and get eaten by Jaws. But how great would it be if something like this would happen just once... you're in a movie and scared shitless and then something that really should be way scarier comes along and just eats everything in sight with no intention of being scary at all, it just wants to relentlessly eat everything and doesn't even understand why it's there. And they've actually been around at one point and they're so big that a knife or a gun or some scary bullshit machete won't do shit. Like when Quint is stabbing Jaws in the face with that machete... it doesn't even register that it's got a huge knife gauging it's face. It just bites down, swallows, and then comes back for another meal. This is just fucked up, reptilian behavior. So yeah, let's just see Jaws or Jurassic Park crossed with a bunch of horror films. Or any film, really... you're just all into the plot and then a dinosaur enters the scene and the film as you know it is over.
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Apr 29, 2004 12:49:32 AM CDT
Paul W.S. Anderson will be recognized as a cult hero someday....
by alchemist
I've said it before, and I'll say it again... Paul WS Anderson is doing the grindhouse flicks of this decade..... His movies may not be brilliant, but they are very fun, slick and certainly original (though derivitive, you don't need to tell me that). People talk about him like he is a "bad" flimmaker. Steven Sommers is a bad filmmaker. Uwe Boll is a BAD filmmaker. Paul WS Anderson is just like a cult director that's given lots of money by the studios..... His films are total geekfests! If he was indie this site and others would be pushing him so hard. If Resident Evil wasn't based on a videogame, you'd call it "brilliant cult trash!" or something. Hey, it was no Dawn of the Dead (1978), but I know I've watched it on DVD almost more than any other movie in my collection, just because it's fun and cool. A hot chick, kicking zombie ass with full auto weapons, set to loud crunchy Marilyn Manson techno?...... That makes it just about the best movie ever, in my books!
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my cursor flashes in sync with the animation, top left
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its been far too long...
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Vowels are your friend. Embrace the concept.
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Sorry 4 my quick typing BTR1701 who made you king of the fucking alphabet?
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1. The expression is "couldn't care less", not "could care less". How did this ludicrous corruption become so widespread? If you examine the words it means the precise opposite of what you think it means.
2. While Terminator 2 is a crock of lowest common denominator shit, The Terminator is a very smart piece of cinema.
3. Aliens is a good film, but definitely moving the franchise in rollercoaster directions. It's also showing its age. By contrast, Alien still looks visually incredible after 25 years and could be shown at arthouse cinemas without eyebrows being raised.
4. There is no reason to suppose that Paul Anderson has suddenly become a good director. Therefore it's a safe bet that while you may be able to knock up a decent trailer for AvP, the movie will almost certainly stink. I mean, the trailers for "The Phantom Menace" made it look pretty good, for Christ's sake... -
These comics suck in my opinion. Why? Because the time-travel logic is all fucked up. Not that this seems to bother many people; they seem to think, "Oh, well, time travel is crazy, therefore any crazy shit can and will happen". Nobody ever seemed to care that the time travel rules seen in The Terminator and T2 were completely incompatible, for example. Then again, to alter Mencken's quote slightly, no-one ever went broke underestimating the brains of the American public.
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Have ANY of you self important, overly critical people actually seen the finished product-answer-NO!
Leave Paul Anderson alone, stop having ago at him for past sins and let him get on with it.
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I Can't wait for this movie to come out. does the trailer or the behind the scences look any good i can't get the trailer on here at my college.
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As much as Cameron is a great director - Aliens is pulp serial brain thumping - it is friggin' great in that context, but...
Alien is a pricelss plastic, a true original, an innovator in every sense of the word. It is the standard for gritty, gnarly, realistic sci-fi.
Putting Aliens up against it betrays your cinematic baseness.
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THE CON IS ON
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Int(Dirac(t),t = -infinity .. infinity)
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just testing
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Today on the show he was talking about how he has a blog which is a joke for him and his friends and he used a pseudonmyn.
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Paul Anderson is the most underrated genre director working today. He has experemented with the elements of horror,sci-fi,actiion and video games in a modern context. He has'nt always gotten it right, but he does put his heart into his projects. I believe his weakest film was Event Horizon. But at least it was better than Tim Burtons Planet of the Apes. I have faith in AVP.
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A few talkbalkers have condemned this flick because of the lack of talent the actors have. These talkbackers have not seen Love and Basketball. She singlehandedly saved this flick from mediocrity by simply being a good enough actor to make you route for her, despite her boring object of affection and the simple, light-weight, romantic script.
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I am curious about Predator sustenance because I am doubtful that one will ever sacrifice space for weapons to carry rations on the mobile armory that is its suit. Perhaps the Predator eats again if and when it returns to its ship for extraction.
The two scenes I hope to see the most in AVP are as follows:
1) A Predator vs. Alien face-off during which the wounded Alien's acidic blood renders the Predator's weaponry inoperable. The Predator removes the malfunctioning weapons and his armor, which is also useless because of hte acid. Before resuming battle, it also sheds its mask, singed and steaming because it is also splattered with Alien blood. The two opponents battle to the death, with the advantage given to the weakened and bloodied Alien because it still overpowers the Predator now that it is stripped of its technology.
2) I have never read the Dark Horse comics that pitted the Aliens against the Predator, but I have always assumed the Predators will be victorious because of their weapons' superiority versus the sheer brawn of the Alien. However, I am intrigued by the possibility - though it has never been firmly solidified in the Alien cannon - that the creature assumes the qualities of the host that it inhabits, which I believe was further reinforced by an old line of Alien toys. I want to see a facehugger implant a Predator that later emerges in the familar shape of an Alien drone, but with the heightened intellect of the Predator. I do not expect it to combat the Predators with their own weapons, but rather as an enhanced warrior that can anticipate and thwart their tactics. I wonder also if this might threaten the Alien hierarchy with the ultra-intelligent warrior-drone challenging the superority of the Queen as leader.
Lastly, I am curious to see how the hunt is conducted. Is it a fair hunt with an equal number of Aliens to Predators, or do the hunters outnumber their quarry? Does the introduction of the humans, and what I can only assume to be the subsequent tipping of the scales with the Aliens implanting them and increasing their numbers, lead to a showdown with the Aliens descending on their hunters en masse? Or do the Predators, in an attemp to keep the scales balanced, attempt to keep the implanted humans from birthing the gestating Aliens, fearful of facing more of them than anticipated, though the Predator has never shown fear before. I only other questions I hope to see clarified are that of the Queen. How does she come about? Is 1/1000 eggs capable of hatching the Queen? Is there a distinct face hugger that implants the Queen embryo versus the drone embryos? How far will the drones go to protect her, which is something Ripley deprives us of seeing in Aliens, which has also always been one of my most unanswered Star Wars questions. How far will the Crimson Guard bodyguards go to protect the Emperor? I always wanted to see that - a Crimson Guard bodyguard vs. a Jedi. In what I hope will not be a nod and a wink ending, I hope that an Alien does not stow aboard a Predator ship at the film's conclusion, which always seems to happen in the Alien films - even when you nuke the planet the creatures are on. However, it would provide tantalizing possibilites for another franchise crossover in either Alien 5 or Predator 3, with the Alien wreaking havoc on the Predator home world, which we might at long last be able to see on film. Given the humanoid appearance of the Predator, and possible embrace of subtitles because, unlike Star Trek, I doubt the alien Predator race speaks English, it might be possible to shoot the film without human characters, which would be a great artistic gamble, though I am unsure it might constitute a profitable one. We can have Predators corral the creatures onto a ship and jettison it to Earth for the fans who wanted to see Aliens on Earth in places other than Antarctica. I always wanted the Company, just for once and unlike the Coyote from the Looney Tunes, to acquire the Alien and use it as a biological weapon in war, only to discover that it cannot control it. If Sigourney Weaver is willing we can always have the Ripley clone (in a soap opera I must discover more about my heritage twist, lead to an explanation of the origins of the Aliens)as a narrator in Alien: 5. -
Apr 30, 2004 9:29:08 PM CDT
SK909's post would be the best movie ever made and no other movi
by fluffyunbound
I enjoyed READING your post more than the last 100 movies I have seen, including Return of the King. How about in the middle of that bit the raptors get on a plane, and when they get off the plane, the entire cast of "Love, Actually" are meeting their parties at the airport, except suddenly the raptors come down through the boarding gate and BAM - wall to wall blimey eatin mayhem.
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These people really have no fucken clue what makes a strong female lead. Watch AVP getting totally thrashed when released .
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This is my overactive imagination running its course, but if we do ever see the Predator world I thought it might be the perfect ironic touch if the Predators are a peaceful race but, either from previos conflicts or a current war, have dedicated their resources to creating an elite warrior class, which we as movie goers are familiar with, to defend themselves. The Predators we see might be sent on hunting excursions to hone their skills as soldiers, with it being the ultimate honor to return with the most prized of trophies and be chosen to join fighting divisions in battle.
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This is my overactive imagination running its course, but if we do ever see the Predator world I thought it might be the perfect ironic touch if the Predators are a peaceful race but, either from previos conflicts or a current war, have dedicated their resources to creating an elite warrior class, which we as movie goers are familiar with, to defend themselves. The Predators we see might be sent on hunting excursions to hone their skills as soldiers, with it being the ultimate honor to return with the most prized of trophies and be chosen to join fighting divisions in battle.
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This is my overactive imagination running its course, but if we do ever see the Predator world I thought it might be the perfect ironic touch if the Predators are a peaceful race but, either from previos conflicts or a current war, have dedicated their resources to creating an elite warrior class, which we as movie goers are familiar with, to defend themselves. The Predators we see might be sent on hunting excursions to hone their skills as soldiers, with it being the ultimate honor to return with the most prized of trophies and be chosen to join fighting divisions in battle.
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This is my overactive imagination running its course, but if we do ever see the Predator world I thought it might be the perfect ironic touch if the Predators are a peaceful race but, either from previos conflicts or a current war, have dedicated their resources to creating an elite warrior class, which we as movie goers are familiar with, to defend themselves. The Predators we see might be sent on hunting excursions to hone their skills as soldiers, with it being the ultimate honor to return with the most prized of trophies and be chosen to join fighting divisions in battle.
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Yes, it is looking cool, but if rumors are true and Marco Beltrami ends up doing the music, the movie will have a very diluted effect. A lot of what makes the Predator such a good character is tied to the great percussive scores by Alan Silvestri. The Alien music is also unique, but it is less distinctive, and Silvestri could emulate it easily.
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Hell yeah! Everyone's original expectations after Alien turned into a series will probably have been watered down by now, so it can't hurt with another Aliens movie that teases this slick. Sure, it can have Predators in it. Even environmentalists! Just gimme HR Giger's baby animated from a few more angles. Anyone else thought about how it was really a good thing that Giger wasn't involved in Aliens, as that gave other artists room to elaborate and create the queen and such? Giger's original vision may have strangled the epic elements of the original sequel, but then I'm glad he was back in it for the third. These new Predator armors look badass as well. Oh, and Archenemysis, that post-shuffling has been going on since before Harry started throwing Butt-numb-athons, my suspicion is its got something to do with a faulty processor handling the filtering of timezones. 8P
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Just from watching the Alien and Predator movies we are given a little info on what they both munch on. In Alien 3 near the end we see the alien chewing on the corpse of one of the recently killed prisoners. In Predator 2 we are actually told that the Predator feeds on beef. So, mystery solved.
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Subconsciously wanting to find a place for the word "udder". "Alien vs Hemorrhoids would have been more interesting" LOL, though I kinda like the Aliens vs. The Thing concept. Just a little. Seeing the thing genome taking over a hatching hive of aliens would be something to top the "caged sled dogs" organism of The Thing. How could the aliens win though? By laying eggs inside of Thing hosts? Sounds like the resulting egg hatch would be flabbergastingly monstrous. Daddy-longlegs facehugger with fingers of wildly different lengths. Swoops over a human head like a hood to implant the "innards-as-exoskeleton-thing-alien-hybrid-embryo". Or not.
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May 04, 2004 10:05:01 AM CDT
To Childe Roland and McGinty on supposed Alien superiority...
by vermithrax p
You read me like a book, Childe Roland, I am a dimwitted testosterone driven alpha-male... though I don't like NASCAR and enjoy Chess from time to time (prefer checkers, its less intricate and sublime). Look, McGinty, I never doubted your scholarship--why the hell would someone make that up?--I simply rejected the thesis that Alien is hands down better. I also reject that a position in academia and a letter from a famous director proves a thesis. I happen to know a film scholar (with a PhD) who disagrees with you, but that doesn't mean anything. Like I said, this is entertainment.
You're demanding that everyone enjoy these films on the same level that you do, and you claim your level to be superior to mine or every other dimwitted person out there, and that's ridiculous. In other fields, more empirical fields, you're scholarship would hold a lot more weight. As it is, McGinty, you are an art critic, a sophisticate, and that may justify your arrogance, but it does not make you right.
As it is, I would like to read your publications (I'm a little more open-minded than Childe Roland would have us believe, though he does seem so perceptive). I'm new here, however, and I do not know how to give you my email address without alerting the likes of Child Roland or other irritating perceptive folks.
Ta
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