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The Trailer For M. Night's VILLAGE Shows Up Online!
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Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
Just got in this terse missive:
post, tell the world!
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Okay. Nice trailer. Very pretty, but that’s to be expected. Shyamalan is a stickler for his pretty pictures. I hate being the one person online who isn’t excited about this film. I wish I could say I was wrong about the script when I reviewed it, but I wasn’t. The twist ending I hinted heavily at is indeed the real ending of the film, and that’s going to be a real problem.
I got a call from a filmmaker the other day, worried about THE VILLAGE, and he asked me to explain the film’s premise to him. As soon as I told him the twist, he relaxed, and then he started mocking the film and laughing about it, and about the audience’s eventual reaction to it. See, I’m a firm believer that a twist is fine... but to spend two hours bald-faced lying to an audience, only to pull the rug out from under them in the most obvious and insulting way... that’s a recipe for disaster.
But, hey... I know how M. Night’s fans are. You’re going to insult me in the TalkBacks. You’re going to say I just don’t like the guy, despite me having been one of his first and most vocal advocates online. You’re going to refuse to believe that he could really have the staggering contempt for the viewing public that this script demonstrates, and you’re going to go on believing that until you see it for yourself.
And when you do... when you realize that we are all the "stupid fucking white people" that he seems to hate so much... oh, man, I can’t wait to see the bloodbath that erupts...
"Moriarty" out.
"Moriarty" out.
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The twist ending is that this village is actually isolated from the modern-day world because of their fear of the "creatures" who are in fact, modern-day people? Basically, it's not the past at all?
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M Night is my American Idol. A year with films by Quentin and Night. Damn, life is sweet. And oh yeah.... FIRST!
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Both Night and Tarantino are two of the most overated film makes out there. They both make one dimensional films. Tarantino, used to fill his films with dialogue, but any kind of story was subject to having something that "sounds cool" come out of the characters mouths. Night's films all have a twist. Signs, a film I loved for ninety percent of it, then comes the twist, "there is a God"! Neither of them are capable of making the kind of all round entertainment Speilberg and Zemeckis used to make. Please let Spielberg make War of the Worlds his next project!
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The chicks are really dudes. You read it here first....And thus, I might be full of shit! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!
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his "movies" with their simpleton "twists" should be episodes in a low class Twilight Zone tv show. You can always figure it out after 15 minutes (this time you get it while looking at the trailer!) Movies with twist ending are the lowest form of entertainment (like sarcasm, the lowest form of humor). Either you get it before ends (like with his movies) and it makes it sooo boring or you don't and all you get from the experience is a big "aaaaah!" The only good twist that comes to mind was the Usual Suspects because it tells you that all you've seen was invented and a lie (a self proclaimed story telling).
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Hope so.
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The twist was already revealed here months ago.
Stupid fooking white people.
By the way thanks to CG for his help with my Julian Moore question.
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No one gives a shit about My Demon Lover. Stop posting this stupid restoration campaign all over the Talkbacks.............As for the topic we are SUPPOSED to be talking about. I like Night's films so I'll go and see it. His movies for me have been entertaining and that's all I expect from a movie. If I want brilliance and mind shattering revelations I'll read Stephen Hawkings.
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Apr 27, 2004 5:53:52 AM CDT
So what you're all saying is... there's some sort of a twist in
by futureman_
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and I'm an M. Night fan. I loved Unbreakable, and I truly believe most people DON'T understand it.
Signs was good, but nowhere near as good as Unbreakable or Sixth Sense.
I still think Unbreakable is his best movie yet.
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Does Night play the black guy who is gonna say that imortal line?
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I don't know. It looks like it could be good. The cast is decent but I may have to agree with the person who said that the big "twist" that ol Shamalamadingdong will offer is that this village is indeed in the modern-day world, and that would be absolute bullshit. I really liked "Signs" and "The Sixth Sense" ('Unbreakable', not so much), I just wish he would get over these stories with the "Big Twists" in them and just make a straightforward film. I mean, after all, did Hitchcock feel the need to have a so called surprise twist in every one of his films? Nope.
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Apr 27, 2004 6:24:10 AM CDT
Oh, a twist you say? Jesus H. Christ, if it ain't big and dumb d
by silver_joo
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What the hell is that about? Is Shyamalan supposed to have said this?
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It was a dim and clammy night that I was sitting alone in front of the double-wide when M.Night Shamalamadingdong stopped by looking for a little advice. Night walked up, looking a little worn like a man who had gone without booze or women for quite some time, picked up the ice cold forty ouncer I was nursing, took a short swig and opened his arms with a tearful look in his eyes. Night said,
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If you believe CHUD, the "Stupid fucking white people" line is said by Jimmie Walker.
Let's all hope this is not true but M. Night is supposed to be a huge "Good Times" fan and Jimmie was in the area so they got him to say the now famous line. -
Apr 27, 2004 7:07:11 AM CDT
The problem with being known as a twist-end storyteller is that
by prof. pop-cult
M. Night needs to move away from this storytelling formula after The Village. He's becoming too predictable.
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Apr 27, 2004 7:12:19 AM CDT
Shyalaman is a moronic, uberpompous hack, worthy of being placed
by salvatoregravano
Even his "fans" silently have to admit that his best flick was "The Sixth Sens". And *that* was an imbecilic, ultraoverrated pile of garbage. I guessed the "suprise" ending within the first three minutes, literally. And afterwards, it was just a big idiotic borefest. I hope this one bombs and leaves the idiot mouth-gaping and wondering: "vy de stoopid vites daunlike mamovies naaau?"
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I hoped M.Night was going to move away from making a twist the crux of his movies and move beyond that into more respectable thrillers/supernatural mysteries. The Sixth Sense was a one-hit wonder, specifically because it can only be experienced once, when the twist is known then the film loses its mystery. Unbreakable was his best in my opinion, because there was a real sense of mystery and wonderment concerning this very ordinary man - he was the type of superhero I'd like to believe in, flawed but not in the cliched psychological sense, but because he is trying to rescue a broken family and get on with his work, even the way his job tied in was wonderful. He's not a billionaire who can make silly cars or a photography student who can spend hours making a latex suit; he was a real guy, and his nemesis was also very real. Unbreakable was his best work to my eyes. Then came Signs... what can I say about Signs. It had terrific atmosphere. Eschewing (mostly) one-bit jump-frights, it tried to unnerve you more along the lines of Japanese horror, and it worked - when the alien moved across the screen it was like the girl crawling out the TV in Ringu, it was so unnatural that the mind recoiled in horror. However, then the focus of the movie switched to LOL "I AM GOD AND PUT THE BAT THERE SO SWING IT DOODER". Worst decision evar, almost. The film further stooped to ludicrousness by having the invading aliens intolerant to water, then WHY THE FUCK INVADE A PLANET THAT IS 70% WATER AND ALSO HUMANS ARE FULL OF WATER TOO RETARDS. This worked for Unbreakable because of the set-up, but this was just plain stupid. Signs was a disaster with a few nice scenes, and also if the script review was any indication, this will have few saving graces. Instead, this will be the sort of film where you sit in a stupor for two hours and when the end comes you realise that you've been in the trainwreck from the very beginning, watching it from outside of your body. Anyway, this long rant is just to say that M.Night should wake up and realise that films entirely dependent on a twist are hard to come by - he had The Sixth Sense being memorable on a list along with The Usual Suspects, Fight Club and Memento. It's impossible to give up while you're ahead, you've already ruined that - at least, stop gracefully and move your focus elsewhere... as long as it isn't onto a baseball bat.
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One of my media choices is "Fullscreen -- IF YOU DARE!!".
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Best laugh I've had in ages! Shame that 99% of this readership won't have the faintest idea what you are on about!
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Ron Atkinson was a sports commentator who recently got fired for muttering something about a "nigger" on air.
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Apr 27, 2004 7:46:00 AM CDT
Whats the deal with reading scripts before the movie is out?
by jon e cin
Is it the.."i know what happens" status you get from all the chicks in line waiting for tickets.
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I loved THE SIXTH SENSE. I loved UNBREAKABLE. But I thought SIGNS was one of the biggest, most pretentious, badly plotted, overwritten and overwrought laff-riots in years. And the trailers so far for THE VILLAGE look no better. I had an awful feeling after SIGNS made money that M. Night was becoming the new Ridley Scott, believing that he could make a movie about any ludicrous bullshit he wanted, so long as it involved lots of slow revolving pans and mysterious music and quasi-meaningful stating-the-obvious dialogue. Looks like that's coming to pass.
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Apr 27, 2004 8:13:27 AM CDT
Let me venture to guess....the creatures in Shyamalan's are anot
by stonemonkey
M. Night should write a film about Religious zealots who run our country and claim to be concerned and responsible individuals, yet lie , go to war under false pretenses, try to censor or take away our God given freedom of speech and destroy our economy at the same time. That might be all too hard for us to believe, right? SAVE HOWARD STERN!!!
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How do you know that the script you and everyone else read is real? How do you know that the script was part real, part fake on purpose?
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Apr 27, 2004 8:32:21 AM CDT
Did you ever consider that M. Night would "publicize" a fake twi
by starwarrior
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Read my comment above yours titled "Village" and you'll see why Signs was nothing but a great big insult to the audience.
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Alright already! Donner can't finish his version of Superman II because he never finished filming everything. So you want him to edit together an incomplete movie? Get over it. We have the movie that's been presented. And I thought cross-posting was one of the the things that gets you banned off of the TBs. I've seen this damn post in every TB for the last month.
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Fuck Shyamalan. He has turned his back on two of his earliest champions: Howard Stern and Fangoria magazine. Now he is a big-shot, I guess that turd doesn't need to pretend to like them to get publicity. But, hey I liked Unbreakble and Signs (and I'm an atheist, go figure).
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Not so sure about him as a writer and do-er of all. I'd like to see him direct someone elses script and idea that was really good. I liked unbreakable best.
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The trailer is fucking awesome.
I agree with what Moriarty said here MONTHS ago, and I have doubts that these "spoilers" are real.
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Apr 27, 2004 9:58:36 AM CDT
THE SIXTH SENSE is definitely a one-shot flick...UNBREAKABLE is
by spyguy
As for THE VILLAGE, I wasn't overly impressed with the trailer and if the rumor about the ending is true, then I'm even less impressed. If M. Night was going to a film called THE VILLAGE, the least he could do was include Number Six, Number Two, Rover and multiple attempts at chemical-induced mind control to keep me interested...
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People call this guy the next Hitchcock but I say he's more like the next Stephen King now. He started out strong but now can only write great suspense & character development with a bad, pulled out of his ass, ending.
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Sixth Sense was on TV last night and reminded me once again of how perfect it was. Unbreakable was also great despite the crybabies who wanted it to be 6th sense:the return. Signs was the weakest, I think, but only relativly because it still kicked the crap out of most other movies out there.
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Apr 27, 2004 10:28:18 AM CDT
M. Night is like those Rock bands that put out a Fantastic song,
by theginger twit
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You can watch it over and over again... if you ignore the ridiculous resolution after the twist at the end. You Unbreakable fans (me included) have got to just admit it. That stuff in the last few seconds was just TERRIBLE! And it (the ending) didn't have anything comic-book like at all, like Harry claimed. Comic books don't end like that, mainstream or alternative.
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Hmmm... considering most of his lead actors and majority of his casts have been primarily anglo in nature I dont get the impression Mr. Shyamalan "HATES" white people. I mean really, by now he can pretty much write his own ticket.
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I am an M. Night fan and I would just like you to know that you are a stupid-head. I bet you just don't like M. Night. The fact that you were one of his first and most vocal advocates online is beside the point. I refuse to believe that M. Night could really have the staggering contempt for the viewing public that the script demonstrates, and I'm going to go on believing that until I see it for myself =P
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Good morning goddammit! My name is James Brown and I are pissed this morning. Little Petey ran home last night, leaving no one to type my messages or read me the white boy insults that I have grown to love so much on this here site. Well he don't get his six pack of silver bullet shit now, I tell you what. Now this fruity little computer nerd I met outside the St. Louis public library downtown is helping me, his name is Sol Rosenberg and he is a pussy if ever there was one. Anyway, so this here movie has dumb whitey shown for the fuckers that they are by a wise brother, well then I say I will see this movie, it sounds pure genius! I will go with my friend Moose Dick from Lompoc, hey there Moose, and we will enjoy whitey being shown as the fool that he is. That is all, UNITY!
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"Harry and M. Night boy were good friends back then"
The fact that M Night would actually be friends with an enormous, bloated, hideous homosexual is evidence enough that he's not dealing with a full deck...
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I'm Rick James, bitch!
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It was about Mel Gibson's character's faith and his relationship with his family. The aliens were just part of the setting. Further, even if the rumored twist in "The Village" is accurate, what's the big deal? Still sounds like an interesting concept to me. sk
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"Stupid Fucking White Man"-Nobody a.k.a. Gary Farmer in "Dead Man"...and again in "Ghost Dog"....or did Jim Jarmusch lift it from somewhere else?
Anyway, I loved "Unbreakable", it was the one of the most entertaining movies I've seen in quite awhile. Some very funny writing. Of everyone I know, I think I was the only one who loved the ending. I didn't like "Sixth Sense" that much except for the acting by the kid. The director does love his shaggy dog story schtick though...I'll admit that. -
Apr 27, 2004 11:11:11 AM CDT
Help restore Superman 2. Dude, give it up, it aint gunna happen.
by theginger twit
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Of course the movie takes place in the modern world. That's because the twist is... The village is in the middle of Gang turf. You can't wear red because y'all can't be flashin' colors like a crazy fuckin white person. You gon' get yo' ass shot.
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that everytime a Shyamalan movie is in the works, fake script reviews abound? I don't even pay attention to them anymore....because I'm confident that Night is going to deliver once again. That trailer was awesome...typical Night....beautiful, creepy, suggestive and suspensful...and the I loved how he highlighted the cast a little bit more. I can't wait to see the footage that they are going to show next week....
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I enjoy M Nights movies...I think his best was signs personally. I'm not a religious person/in fact you could call me agnostic..I could care less if there is a god. If thiere is the cudos for him...if not I'll be dead and wont know the differance (I am stating all this to avoid all those freaks who think I like this movie because it has a religious base to it,when that is VERY far from the truth). The Twist in that movie was exellent. My only problem with M Night is yes, his movies are not buyers. You can only see a movie with a twist so many times, after that it's just tiresome. The twist in this upcomming movies sounds pretty lame. I am sure I would of enjoyed it alot more if I had not read the spoiler (which by the way, use invisible text when you people are gonna give a spoiler or at least warn us. Dont say it was already posted on the site because some of us people dont surf this website 100% and avoid certatin things that say "Spolier" on it. Whatever. We will see once it hits thearters. Unbreakable I think was one of his worst films. I enjoy reading comics but the ending was HELLA lame in this film. I hate films that end a film with text. It takes away from the film and cheapins the film.
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Wow, both M and H made that mistake this week. Who's copying who? To make it easy, you both get an F.
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So he's obsessed with silly twist endings. He still demonstrates a lot of skill telling a story without lots of flashy editing and numetal buttrock. I'd like to see him direct something he hasn't written.
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devastating. thanks for the laugh man. further proof that 99% of the talkbacks contain better material than harry's news. if cnn 'showbiz today' starts showing trailers, we'll have us a real horserace here...
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Actually, it *is* "bald-faced" lie. The fact that a "face" is "bald" refers to the fact that no attempt has been made to disguise a lie; that is to say, a "bald-faced lie" is a deception that is condescending in its glaring obviousness. "Bald-faced" is not a perversion of "boldfaced" (usually not hyphenated), which of course refers to the darkness and thickness of printed text.
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That's a good thing. I too agree that he should get away from the twist ending...I know he's infatuated with horror films...but it would do him good to try to get away from that "schtick". The main problem is the internet where people can theorize about the suprise endlessly before the film comes out, and then the film becomes just a guessing game as to what the surprise is. That shouldn't be what's going on in your head when you are watching it...you should be revelling in the moment, letting the storytelling carry you, not just trying to guess the end the whole time. Oh well...The Village still looks freaking awesome.
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Considering America's current 'big' studio output Night's films are a breath of fresh air. Most of you seem to have trouble seeing past his 'alien' or 'ghost' stories. That's a shame. But these films aren't for you so get over it. Read the Life of Pi by Yann Martel, His next film. It's just as crazy and unbeliveable and as any of Night's films. But that's the point. Leaps of faith my friends. Leaps of faith.
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. . . which is an awesome book. It'll be a good, different film for him.
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(Possible spoilers) The concept that a society's development could become stunted and eventually self-destructive due to self-imposed insulation and institutionalized xenophobia should, in theory, make for a very interesting and relevent movie. If this is in fact the premise of The Village, then the problem (assuming there is indeed one) should lie more with the clumsy way the twist is supposedy handled than with the twist itself. Question for Moriarty: If the twist were the same in content but were delivered with appropriate grace and deftness, do you think the script overall would have been as much of a letdown and as contemptuous of its audience?
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Can someone just go ahead and spoil the entire ending for me? Give me specifics.
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Unbreakable has the laziest ending I have ever seen. Did Night run out of film? Did he just get bored with shooting? It wouldn't have been too tough to shoot some scenes showing the resolution instead of tacking some text up there. Really sad; ruined what was otherwise an ok movie.
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Unbreakable started off as my least favorite M. Night Shyamalan movie, but it's actually grown on me the most of all his movies. I don't get the hate that Sixth Sense and Signs are getting lately online. They're both good movies, both full of good nuances. Signs was better before Night revealed why the aliens were there (we didn't need to know, the plot holes were forgivable when it was all a mystery). But Unbreakable is the one that I've come to appreciate more since the first time I saw it (mainly because I disliked it so strongly upon first viewing that I had nowhere to go but up). However, my main complaint about the movie still stands. The ending is all wrong! It shouldn't have ended with that crappy America's Most Wanted style caption! Mr. Glass should have immediately revealed that he'd planted several explosives in several different locations around the city(or some similar disaster), and one is in the pool of his son's school, and Dunn has to race to save his wife and son and thousands more. Is it too much for even him? The final test of his heroism was at hand! I know there was no money for it, but that last scene was the start of something, not an ending. It should have turned into a huge comic book actioner but with the emotional invesment the movie had earned. "Save your son or save thousands of people, David. These are the choices heroes must make. Now be a hero." My god that was screaming to be the ending! Trying to end it like a "real life" drama was thematically wrong for where the movie had been heading. It might have been a consistant tone, but the whole movie had been aiming to escape that tone! Or so it had seemed (and still seems) to me. The ending felt like the Dunn character just recoiling back into his shell. Those rumors of a trilogy were understandable, and I'm sorry Shyamalan has said he's not interested in it. He could have really done something visionary there, but he backed out of it at the last minute. I hope the Villiage isn't a bigger disappointment, Mori has done an amazing job of deflating my expectations for it. Not sure I'm grateful for that though.
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I hated Signs when I first saw it, but on repeated viewings (it's on cable just about every second day) I'm liking it more and more. And yes, the movie is more about faith and fate than it is about aliens. The movie is one big statement about the possibility that even the smallest details really do mean something and are that way for reasons we can't always see. I can't believe that after all this time most people still think that the title refers to the fucking crop circles...
I'm not personally religious, but I love multi-layered films, where when you really pay attention you see a whole different film emerge than the first time you watched it...it really does take skill as a filmmaker to pull that off...but the Village really does look like a shitty Outer Limits or Twilight Zone episode. -
The ending did fall flat, but this is Night's best film as far as repeat viewings are concerned. One could argue that the ending to Unbreakable would be more acceptable if followed by the second two films in the trilogy that were once discuss.
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mediocre...my question is....i read the scrpit...but the in the preveiw it sounds like there are things RIGHT OUTSIDE the window...those CAN'T be tractors...so....wha tthe hell is right outside the window??
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I'm not sure it's going to be in the modern world and they don't know it. 1)In the trailer it says they came there and the shit started happening shortly after they got there. They may be in the "1800's" but the calendar has been around for a while. 2)Even if you were dumb enough to not leave your yard in the modern world it's not believable that the rest of the world wouldn't know where you are. I used to live in West Virginia and its as close to THE VILLAGE as you can get and eventually people do come around. Besides, does anyone know where I can get free land? 3)The people are seeing something and people have probably been killed by something. In the trailer you see a drawing of a fucked up red sesame street monster and the girl encounters one behind the tree. There should be more than one monster to keep that many people from leaving unless they're that fucking scared. Thirty people against one 6-7 foot monster? Now I'm not a fan of Shymaylan. I figured out Bruce was ghost as soon as I knew the kid could see them. I mean Bruce never changed clothes and no one else would talk or look at him but the kid, not even his wife. Duh. The movie is essentially ruined after about 10 minutes. Signs and the water. Please. Ever read WAR OF THE WORLDS? I know Shaymalan has. If anything I think he should write comedy. Signs was funny as shit to me if not anything else. I wish I could say that he would think the audience would be this dumb, but then again look at the other films.
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Apr 27, 2004 12:21:50 PM CDT
I still think "Sixth Sense" deserved to be the enormous hit that
by beamish13
The twist wasn't the most original (hell, "The 3rd Policeman" had the same one fity+ years ago), but it was handled very, very well.
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I'm waiting for the movie where he plays every single character. And the twist ending is his job is exported to the U.S.
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Jesus. I can't believe all this crap about the script and "everyone" who has claimed to read it. You'd think it was a freakin Nicholas Sparks book. Who gives a shit? M Night has delivered damn entertaining flicks in the past and I have no doubt that he'll do the same with The Village. I'll be sitting in that cold theater in the dog days of summer lovin every minute of it.
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Interesting theory - but it still sounds like it would make a terrible movie. The premise sounds like the book blurb for 'Only Forward' a bit ==== "Stark lives in Colour, a neighbourhood whose inhabitants like to be co-ordinated with their surroundings. Then there's Red close by: if you want to see a tactical nuclear battle recreated as a sales demonstration. Stark has friends in Red, which is just as well because something is about to happen." (www.amazon.com) ==== Anyway, I'll probably see this movie in the cinema but if it turns out to be what Mori reviewed then I shall not go see another, because Signs was a good film but with an end so terrible it nearly ruined my entire opinion of it.
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...the trailer's really a commercial from the Philly Visitor's Bureau.
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While I liked SIXTH SENSE the first time, every watch thereafter borders on tedium. As for UNBREAKABLE (a/k/a UNWATCHABLE), what the fuck is up with making Bruce Willis' (a/k/a "dumb-downed superman who can't fly") big weakness that of a bad gag-reflex (which, in the context of the film, basically meant he couldn't hold his breath for long/swim in water)? And don't even get me started about Willis' performance in the movie. I mean, first, he's magically BLOCKED-OUT his superpowers, never once getting wise to the fact that he's had them, for what is it; 25, 30 years? Yeah, I can believe that. And then, when he does 'discover' them he shows no emotion. No joy. No satisfaction. No, "Yay! I now know why I was put on this earth." You just got that dim-witted Billy-Bob-Thorton-in Sling-Blade-like look. And Signs...oh, yeah, baby...SIGNS--A movie in which the kryptonite seems to be yet again 'water', although this time it's the Aliens who have it as their weakness. Which begs the question: Why invade a planet that is made up of mostly water? And, yes, I know there's the theory that it's only holy water that has that particularly negative effect on them. Although, if that's true, why does M Night-the-actor actually go and say out loud that he was headed towards a large body of water because it was supposed to be a safer place. Right there he implants the suggestion that water--and not holy water--is their weakness. And how about the drawing in the Culkin kid's book that bore an extraordinary resemblance to the family's house? In that picture, several members of said family appeared to be lying dead on the ground. You
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I really loved The Sixth Sense and the twist ending it had. Unbreakable didn't work quite as well, but was engrossing throughout. Signs could have been far better if it hadn't expanded the alien incursions to a global scale and concentrated on Gibson's family's predicament. And that prescient but cryptic "Swing away" to be suddenly realized to apply to their situation in the climax just didn't make sense. It seemed like a forced concept of fate, after a pretty good story up to that point, almost ruined it. The Village looks in the previews to be extremely creepy, but if it has a twist ending that lets you down because it makes no sense and insults your intelligence, then fuck it. I may not go see another Shyamalan film after this one if he pisses me off that much.
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Apr 27, 2004 1:04:52 PM CDT
The ONLY consistently excellent element of Night's movies is Jam
by osmosis jones
Listening to the final cue from Signs on CD makes you think you're hearing the Second Coming, but then you see the movie, and it's Joaquin Phoenix (who's young enough to play Mel Gibson's *son*, never mind his brother) beating an alien to death with a baseball bat! That's what all of Shyamalan's films are like: 1:40 of pretentious, humorless "atmosphere", followed by five minutes of unintentional comedy. He makes good-LOOKING movies, and as long as he continues to hire Howard to write his scores, I'll keep seeing his films, but he's a one-trick pony, and incredibly arrogant, to boot (remember him crowing about how Unbreakable would be that year's highest-grossing movie and a multiple-Oscar nominee? Hah...). Hey, Hitchcock had his cameos, but he NEVER gave himself even a single line of dialogue, much less a ten-page monologue full of all of the film's neccesary plot exposition. What a conceited prick...
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...in the words of Fred Willard in Mighty Wind: "WA HAPPEND?" 6th Sense was cool, the rest of his movies weren't. The Village looks like a collection mediocre ideas leftover from a brainstorming session.
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Apr 27, 2004 3:16:40 PM CDT
William Hurt plays Liam Neeson/John Hurt. Judy Greer and Bryce
by christopher3
James Newton Howard plays Howard Shore.
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The people who leave the village realize that they were better off not leaving, and they go back and intentionally lie to the others by claiming to have ACTUALLY SEEN the monsters. And so the lie is renewed for another generation.
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No one believes that there actually ARE monsters in the woods, right? Not a soul is taking the concept at face value. Man, that sucks that the guy can't even get people to fall for his set-up months before the picture opens. Personally, I hope there really are monsters, there's no twist and this turns out to be a people vs. monsters bloodbath movie. That would be cool. Unfortunately I don't believe that for a second.
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I came across the supposed ending that everyone was saying was the real thing, but I chose to not read it. Now, I wanna know, someone fill me in
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The village of the title is in the path of a new golf curse and condos. The villagers have stayed isolated too long. Don't be surprised if they appear as ghosts or nonhmans to the bulldozer crew that comes tearing in at the end.
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Apr 27, 2004 5:22:43 PM CDT
Shyamalon is a fantastic director and Harry, you need to just sh
by ferrellfan911
anyone can read the script of a movie and says it sucks before he or she goes to see it. Duh! they already knows what's going to happen. Therefore, harry, i don't think you need to see the Village since you already know what's going to happen and all.
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The Sixth Sense was well-crafted and fun...his other two movies were not especially good...actually "Signs" was horrible...a total piece of shit. Sure it made $200 million domestic, but it still sucked. I was dumb enough to pay to see it at the theater too. I didn't want to give up on Night, but I have now. This movie will probably be sucky too..maybe he'll eventually make another good film like The Sixth Sense, but this sure isn't it.
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Apart from the script, story, direction and acting.... was the fact that at the very end Bruce Willis DIDN'T step outside, put on his sunglasses and fly away... Thank fucking god!... worst last shot ever...(hehehe there had to be a mention of THAT movie somewhere.. in every talkback..)
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Cause it sucked the first time
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Does anyone have the broadcast of The Sixth Sence taped from last nite? I quick clip of the monster peering from a staircase was shown right before the trailer was aired. It was pretty creepy.
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A film can still be enjoyed multiple times just because you know the ending.
Love Unbreakable(Shyalaman should have Superman for this)
Like Signs
Like Sixth Sense
I always think of films as albums. Especially now with the advent of DVD. You would not stop listening to a CD because you didn't like the last track.
His films can be flawed but he certainly has vision. And I always enjoy a film maker with running themes and trademarks.
Not one talkbacker here saw the Unbreakable ending coming.
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Harry's server, that is. Harry, you seriously need to upgrade from that damn 486 box you're using. I could barely load the site.
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If the movie is about a society that has self-contained itself and fears the unknown then it might just be a great movie for our times.
I mean honestly. We're fighting a war right now. What the fuck is it all REALLY about? Because we are all self-contained on this one planet, but we all think individually...we're right. we have the right color of skin, or god, or beliefs, or talk-back opinons? isn't it always the...they're wrong/i'm right mentality we suffer from?
We're all fucked. and even more fucked for not thinking so.
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It will be out there, but it will work. It will be present day. The people are in Pennsylvania. Maybe they're Amish or Pennsylnavia Dutch. The Elders are all in on it. They probably own the land and made up the monster(s) to keep the new generations from leaving. The blind girl is the key I think. The "monsters" (Elders in costumes) will probably overlook her and she will have to leave or escape the village run into other people and come back with help or something. Or this could just be the Twinkies talking.
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You whiny pieces of shit. Always starting your meaningless posts bashing whatever movie is currently popular and praising some obscure foreign piece of shit movie no one has ever heard of. All these people you call "hacks" are something you will never be- successful. They have done more in a year than you have done in your entire pathetic lives. Oh, but I'm sure that that killer screenplay you've been working on for the last 5 years will show them all won't it? Don't be upset because you can't make it in showbusiness. Everyone of Shyamalan's movies is better than any idea you have ever thought of. You didn't guess the ending to Sixth Sense 15 minutes into the movie. You were fooled just like everyone else. So stop telling peoplle otherwise. Maybe lying about that to the rest of the clods in this forum gives you a boner in your little panties but no one is impressed. I bet most of you chumps would lick Peter Jackson's hairy hobbit butthole if given the chance. You are nothing. You are pieces of crap. No one in Hollywood would wipe their ass with anything you've written. No one cares about your opinion. You make fun of people's spelling and you try to use really big words to sound smart but guess what- you are a fucking clown. You are insignificant and no director or writer gives a shit what any of you morons in the Aint It Cool talkbacks thinks. You can't possibly think that what you post here makes an iota of difference. You self important fucks rush home from school and post negative shit about whatever director is currently successful when you should be taking a long hard look at yourselves and realizing that you have done nothing in life that qualifies you to pass judgement on anyone else. Moriarty, you're the biggest peice of shit out of all these fucks. Do your pants start to feel tight when you receive the meaningless admiration of the losers who come here? You all love swimming in the anonymity of the internet, pretending that you're a man. When in reality, if you had the balls to say the shit you say to anyone in real life, they would fucking beat your ass. And thus Chicken George 7 is a fag. Fuck all of you bitches.
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You whiny pieces of shit. Always starting your meaningless posts bashing whatever movie is currently popular and praising some obscure foreign piece of shit movie no one has ever heard of. All these people you call "hacks" are something you will never be- successful. They have done more in a year than you have done in your entire pathetic lives. Don't be upset because you can't make it in showbusiness or anywhere else for matter. Everyone of Shyamalan's movies is better than any idea you have ever thought of. You didn't guess the ending to Sixth Sense 15 minutes into the movie. You were fooled just like everyone else. So stop telling peoplle otherwise. Maybe lying about that to the rest of the clods in this forum gives you a boner in your little panties but no one is impressed. I bet most of you chumps would lick Peter Jackson's hairy hobbit butthole if given the chance. You are nothing. You are pieces of crap. No one in Hollywood would wipe their ass with anything you've written. No one cares about your opinion. You make fun of people's spelling and you try to use really big words to sound smart but guess what- you are a fucking clown. You are insignificant and no director or writer gives a shit what any of you morons in the Aint It Cool talkbacks thinks. You can't possibly think that what you post here makes an iota of difference. You self important fucks rush home from school and post negative shit about whatever director is currently successful when you should be taking a long hard look at yourselves and realizing that you have done nothing in life that qualifies you to pass judgement on anyone else. Moriarty, you're the biggest peice of shit out of all these fucks. Do your pants start to feel tight when you receive the meaningless admiration of the losers who come here? You all love swimming in the anonymity of the internet, pretending that you're a man. When in reality, if you had the balls to say the shit you say to anyone in real life, they would fucking beat your ass. And thus Chicken George 7 is a fag. Fuck all of you bitches.
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What is this twist in Batman Begins that was mentioned earlier?
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Apr 27, 2004 6:58:08 PM CDT
Shhh, They Wander Out Of The Woods And Find The Statue Of Libert
by rebeck
Every M. Night movie is "Planet Of The Apes".
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Apr 27, 2004 7:05:17 PM CDT
Come on, M Night. You couldn't think of a better nickname than
by fluffyunbound
Come on, how about "Darjeeling Groovy" or "We have no nan nannas today" or something. Work harder. Lots of people in this talkback are defending you, anyway. "They called me Mr. Glass!" Best fucking last line of a film since Charlton Heston beat beach, baby.
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Hoping that suck_it's post was one of the most tongue in cheek satirical posts I've ever read, although that queasy feeling in my stomach tells me that I'm probably hoping for too much. Oh, and for the record, I guessed Sixth Sense's twist about forty minutes before the end when it was starting to become plainly obvious.
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Signs sucked, its time Night moved on from his own material, cause if all he's got in him are twist endings than he's done. But he's still a talented director and can probably breath some good life into writers who are better than him (Life of Pi!).
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Bitches. Suck_it was right, you all smoke cock. Moriarty can smoke a fat bone, who gives a shit what you think, bitch. People come here for news, not your half assed, lazy opinions. They'd almost be believable if they didn't have a link to some Amazon product every other line. Fucking ass cowboy.
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Apr 27, 2004 8:33:31 PM CDT
A bad script can still make an interesting movie if the director
by frankdrebin
For example, a fictional character steps out of a movie to help a troubled viewer; depending on the director, you get either LAST ACTION HERO or PURPLE ROSE OF CAIRO.
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You truly are!
They clearly show some sort of "creature" in the trailer. It's really hard to mistake it for a fucking some sort of machine.
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Apr 27, 2004 9:13:54 PM CDT
As someone has said, one thing truely great about M>Nights last
by attackingclone
I really love many of James Newton Howards scores like, SNow Falling on Cedars, 6th Sense, Unbreakable, Signs, Atlantis (cartoon one).
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than see another stupid, pretentious pile of M. Night Shamalamadingdong's crap. And I rather enjoyed "Unbreakable," as idiotic as it was-- at least it was well directed. "Signs" was, perhaps, the worst movie (I've seen) of the last 20 years. In Hell they make you watch Taylor Hackford's "The Idolmaker" again and again-- but, as shitty as that movie is, it's "Citizen Kane" compared to "Signs." What fucking garbage!!
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Mori one of those people who said that Gibson's film wasn't anti-semetic? So why would this film be anti-white people? And to be honest, that line of dialogue is too Jarmusch for Night. Hell, that line of dialogue IS Jarmusch. Oh, and by the way -- Schaffner's original, classic, much-loved PLANET OF THE APES spent two hours lying to us, too. So did SOYLENT GREEN. And FIGHT CLUB. Gee, I guess Heston and David Fincher hate their audiences, too...
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If Joe P. Blow made this movie everyone would marvel at the shock twist ending. I guarantee you the whole world would have figured out the twist to this filmd without Moriarty spilling the beans. You really have to ask yourself; are you pissed because the twist is cheesy or are you pissed because M has really beat this friggan formula into the ground. What pisses me off is he has half the moronic movie going public believing he invented the twist ending when IMO he still hasn't pulled off a single twist worthy of mention. But hey, he's got the money and we don't so at least we know he gives good head to Disney's board.
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That actually they are living in A "Truman Show type" world. Sending in "monsters" that keep them so scared they don't wan't to leave the village
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Being lied to from the beginning of the film was done in plenty of "TWIST" movies.
And another thing that gets me thinking, if M nights movies rely SO much on his twist endings, why would he release the script or allow it to be released.
Me thinks it's a fake going around.
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Apr 27, 2004 11:11:52 PM CDT
I saw the trailer durring the 6th Sense. It is THE MOVIE of the
by islander
I can't wait to see it. M. Night is THE MAN.
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The village is all an elaborate reality TV show, much like the truman show. The villagers are kept isolated and observed.
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For the record, I love M. Night's movies (Unbreakable being the best) but that's my opinion. I can understand why people don't like Signs - I have my problems with the ending as well. But you have to give M. Night credit: who ever thought another alien movie could make over $200 million without having 200 million CGI shots? He makes genre movies that are personal. They're always about characters over concepts. With that said, I find it hard to believe that this "twist" is authentic. At the very least, I sincerely doubt that M. Night would write the line "Stupid fucking white people". After Signs, he seems like a pretty religious/conservative guy. He's well aware of the evil in this world and isn't afraid to confront it (as strongly evidenced by Unbreakable) but I find it very hard to believe that M. Night would even use the word "fuck" in his movie. Especially during the pivatol "twist" ending. That just doesn't seem like him. Oh well, I still really want to see this movie - and honestly, I bet a lot of you are going to see it just to find out if M. Night pulls off such a mind-fucking twist as is rumored.
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Puns are the lowest form of humor. As for M. Night, HATED 6th Sense, thought was incredibly over-rated, loved Unbreakable and Signs. This looks like a return to 6th Sense... which isn't good.
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Puns are the lowest form of humor. As for M. Night, HATED 6th Sense, thought was incredibly over-rated, loved Unbreakable and Signs. This looks like a return to 6th Sense... which isn't good.
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Also, there HAVE to be creatures in the woods. It can't be people. There's so many snarling, animal-sounding effects in the trailer. I find it hard to believe that they're "machines" or that M. Night put them in there just to manipulate people.
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number 1: countless films have kept a tight seal on their scripts. Fucking SCREAM 2 and 3 were like goddam fort knox when they came out. What in the hell makes you think that harry and mori have the *real* script?
number 2: the FIRST LINE of the trailer says "we moved here far away from any cities, blah blah blah"
meaning: the villagers know about fucking civilaztion--they moved AWAY FROM THE CITIES. So I'm not buying that they're being SUPER AFRAID of shit they know about.
number 3: the creatures are both drawn (on a rock) and semi-shown in the trailer. It seems to be something with a red hood or garment, etc. If these are like human beings that dress up in red hoods to scare people than the ending will be lame...
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the movie will not. just take a motherfucking look at the scene at the end of the trailer when what's her Howard is sticking out of the floor and that banging comes and the camera silently shifts just a few feet to the left, and then back to the right, revealing utter terror on the face of what's her Howard.
That shit is just good filmmaking. Bitch can direct. Bitch can write. Bitch can write and direct suspense.
I'd like to hear names of people directing high-budget summer blockbusters that are more suspensful than this. the last summer suspense movie i can remember that came close to m night was "the others" and what has that mexican guy done since? nothing--cause he doesn't want to mess with shamalamadingdong.
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Um, first of all, Alejandro Amenabar is Spanish. Second, he's got a new film coming out this year which is not a thriller, called "Mar adentro," or OUT TO SEA. I personally can't wait, as I own all three of his features and think he's a fucking god. We're so very lucky that we have filmmakers like Amenabar and Shyamlan, regardless of their unpronouncable last names.
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"It was all a dream." Post link to spoilers please. As far as M.N.S. thinking poorly of the average white American, there was an article on AICN some time ago describing how he came up with the idea for Signs. (being on AICN take it with a grain of salt, but it's a funny anecdote). Shymalan was eating one day at Denny's and observed a family of fatties shoveling crummy food into their faces. He decided to make a movie for these people and Signs was born, Denny's film fare for the masses.
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let me take a guess- maybe the demons in the woods are native americans?
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The Twilight Zone was a great show. It was almost always a "twist" ending. Every episode. In my opinion it was the best show ever made. Rod Serling was a genius and he did the same formula all the time, not just in the Twilight Zone, but in most of his work before and after. Not only were there twist endings, but the meanings were intentionally obscured because of the climate of the society. I have a creeping fear that anything that was "spoiled" when taken in context with the entire film, we will see ain't it cool "news" will have missed the target yet again. Assuming any of what was read was the actual script. Even if the film is bad, I doubt that the reasons it is bad will match the script review. *** Anyways, I enjoy watching this website implode. As an ex-comic book fan, I really enjoyed watching a show I saw this weekend chronicalling the rise and fall of McFarlane, which went along with the rise and fall of comics in general. This site is clearly on that path. Like comic books companies, Kevin Smith, and so many other niche markets that think they are bigger than they are, rather than taking a look internally the folks that run this site would rather blame the few fans that remain. The more of their fans that leave, the angrier they get, and they transfer that anger back at the fans left and drive even more of them away. Fake stories, horrible writing, plugging things for nerd payola(posters, trips, toys, "scoops", ego strokes, or whatever it is the nerd values at the time), and trashing whoever doesn't make your nerdola payments are such an obvious constant. No successful person is ever going to kiss the ass of every nerd that works for this site any longer than they have to guys, get used to it and stop pretending you are objective. And the twist? The filmmaker who was mocking the Village was Stephen Sommers.
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is old white guys "raising the roof".
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ala Truman show. They are being watched and observed to find out about fears.
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So, from what I am gathering, the "twist" ending is basically an Amish version of Cube?...
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it seems clear enough that if the ending is as suggested, he's trying to make a movie which will make us all feel like the 'stupid white people' who believe the words of the village elders, as a metaphor for not seeing past the words of our leaders or understanding that those in other countries see us as stupid, ignorant, media-fed...
but... he must think we're idiots for this kind of trick to have any impact on us. or to think that we'll be grateful for the slap in the face in return for the price of a movie ticket...
anyway - as for sheltered white people thinking black people are monsters, I swear this is true: I went to college in Ireland for four years - a fifty year old woman I talked to there said the first time she went to London and saw a black man, she thought he was the devil... she seemed very serious when she said it... she'd never seen a black guy before... incredible. -
the creatures are bulls! and of course the colour red attracts them and annoys them. it's a farm and set in the wild west frontier and the bulls and the indians are there to get them some pale faces! maybe the ranch they were living near was attacked by indians and the bulls escaped from the ranch! hee yah! it's really a western!...i'm taking the piss just in case it's not obvious. i hear the western on hbo is pretty good. wouldn't mind see it. and signs was a barry crocker- water, baseball bat and hammy religious plot...
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From what I've read, most people say that the twist is the "creatures" are just modern day construction people who are there to tear down the village and do development in that area. I don't know why Harry writes a big review full of spoilers about the terrible twist ending, and then fails to say what it was. That makes no sense whatsoever.
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at how many people on this talkback (and site) can't read. IT SAYS MORIATY, NOT HARRY. get with the program!
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what if, in the end, the village turns out to be a "bubble" society raised in "utopian" conditions and monitered by citizens of the future? and it turned out that given a perfect template in which to exist the members of the village decided to use their time bitching online? even taking the time out of their sublime existence to bitch (extra graphically) about the sumbitches who give them a forum in which to bitch. that sure would be a bunch of stupid white motherfuckers. and if that's the last line in the movie i will laugh till my ass bleeds and then never have a "night" at the movies ever again. Unbreakable is so good it almost lives up to howard's score.
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All the spoilers are there and if you can't infer them from what he says then tough shit.
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It makes no sense that the monsters are the modern world coming into the village. Why would they mark the doors, creep around, etc..
It is very plausable though that it's all orchestrated by the village elders, to keep them in. Then, when the elders start dying, they pass down the secret to the next generation. The 1 second clip with the red 'monster' looks an awful lot like a guy in a pretty bad costume. -
"Any strategy that kept important and necessary information away from the reader in the hope of overcoming him by surprise at the end of the story was cheating." - Raymond Carver, a better writer than Shyamalan will ever be.
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what a fucking amazing post! the conspiracy post to end them all! damn yeah! and what M is saying about the "whole fucking stuid white tribe" stuff is only a representation of the audience in general. not of colour or race. the hate M talks of is not for white fellas, but for us, the audience. just like the people in the film we get suckered big time. someone posted above with a better description...read it. well, i hope that is what Moriarty meant!!! BUT i'm sticking with my wild west theory. bulls and mohawks!
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From the Trailer site: "..THE CHILLING TALE OF A CLOSE-KNIT COMMUNITY THAT LIVES WITH THE FRIGHTENING KNOWLEDGE THAT CREATURES RESIDE IN THE WOODS AROUND THEM AND THE COURAGE OF ONE YOUNG MAN WHO CHALLENGES THE UNKNOWN CREATURES WHO RESIDE IN THE SURROUNDING WOODS." So, there are creatures residing in the woods right? Must be important to tell us twiced in the same sentence with no punctuation. And the woods that are around them, are also surrounding them? No shit!
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...good for you. Fool me twice? Not likely, Nighty.
I was one of the lucky folks who saw the Sixth Sense with no prompting or clue as to what I was in for. Because I wasn't at all looking for it, I didn't start to anticipate the surprise ending until about halfway through the film and I wasn't confident enough of my developing theory to share it with the gal I saw that flick with. I enjoyed the twist even though I had a pretty good idea it was coming. The movie made me feel smart... almost in the same way The Usual Suspects had made me feel smart when I realized who Spacey was just a few minutes before it was revealed on screen. But once you know MNS' game plan (he always throws the curve) you can pretty much hit him out of the park every time. Unbreakable is still enjoyable to me for the caliber of the performances and because I'm a comic fan from way back, but it didn't surprise me at all. Signs was not only predictable, it was dumb as hell for the reasons already pointed out (why wouldn't the Aliens have invested in slickers if they were headed down to a blue planet?). I might rent The Village after it's been out a while, but only to see if its as bad as I suspect it will be.
Personally I'd rather see a tape of the scene George Chicken described above. Brilliant stuff, man! Now get to work on a scene featuring the castration and subsequent auto-anal rape of Quentin Tarentino, the other greatly overrated, one-trick, self-important hack lighting up Hollywood talkbacks these days. -
Jaquin Phoenix steps out of the forest and gets run over by a car. He then finds himself sitting in a chair playing a slot machine that pays out. "Wow! I won! I must be in heaven!" But the machine keeps paying out... "Wait, I keep winning. That's boring, I must be in hell!" A guy comes by, opens up a curtain and reveals that he's actually on an airplane and there's a gremlin outside eating the wiring on the wing. "You gotta believe me, there's a creature on the wing!" The attendant says, "I can't believe you." Shows him a mirror... "Because you're Adolf Hitler!" He turns to the next person and says, "Eva Braun, you believe me don't you?" She pulls off her mask to reveal that she's actually a bug head creature!
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Being merely a PA must really burn you up inside, huh? Anyway, good luck...with your future job in food preparation once you get your pathetic, nondescript, whiny ass fired because, let me tell you, with an attitude like yours, there's no way in hell you'll do anything more than PA work. Serves your right, too.
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They dummys in that village our in the present day and are scared of construction workers.
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Revolutions ending is far worse.
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Worst. Director. Ever.
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I have lived in Villages like this in the deep south. We had an understanding with the forest folk or "inbreds" if you will. We weren't allowed to show our backsides to the woods or they would cornhole your ass mercilessly, but seeing as we were surrounded by the woods someone was always getting cornholed.
They didn't like the color creme, and seeing as we were all white people, well, someone was always getting cornholed.
We used to be able to put ice cream drumsticks on the borders in the grass as protection, but it never worked as they would just eat them then cornhole us.
We sent an emissary into the woods wearing yellow, but he got cornholed so none of us wore yellow after that. (doesn't make a difference anyways)
They sometimes warned you that they were coming, not by leaving a mark on the door, but by yelling into your ear "I'M COMMIN"
I think this movie may hit too close to home so I will have to skip it...
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I'm surprised that suck_it can't conceive of a world in which he was fooled but others weren't. *spoiler* The dead giveaway that Bruce Willis' character was dead was just minutes into the film. the couple is getting along great, everything's wonderful. He gets shot. The very next time you see them together, "months later" (or whatever the insert read), she won't even speak to him on their anniversary. Without any connective, explanatory scene in between (given this was a mainstream film), SOMETHING happened -- a divorce, a huge row, or something. The meter doesn't have to be running too long before the viewer realizes -- ah! he DIED. He's a GHOST. At least, that's how it was for me. So I sat, still entertained by a well-made movie, waiting for whatever the hell the big twist I'd heard about was going to be. I was bummed when I realized thatthe twist was what I'd already put together, and also that the movie cheats at times about what the ghosts could and couldn't physically interact with, but, overall, still a good movie. UNBREAKABLE is fantastic, an SIGNS is uneven, but the best parts (the children's party, the last line Night has where he says he's locked one in the pantry) are great. The ending was poor and kind of insulting. But I'm still interested in what this guy does. Maybe SIGNS is his HUDSUCKER PROXY, NEW YORK NEW YORK, or SMALL TIME CROOKS.
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...I guess I should have said she wouldn't "converse" with him. It was pretty clear that they aren't communicating, per se; that she can't hear him.
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They were sent to this village because they're hideuosly deformed, while the rest of the world has PIG FACES!!! Doo Doo Doo Doo...
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This go the first poster who said something about M.Night using Hindu philsophies. He may have, but I'm pretty sure the man is Roman Catholic.
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I find it very, very hard to believe that M. Night would use the line "Stupid fucking white people" to end his film and I think that anyone who's absolutely convinced that this is the end of The Village should rethink their perception of M. Night.
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Apr 28, 2004 4:57:20 PM CDT
The funniest part of this idiotic trailer for this moronic movie
by salvatoregravano
...the moment in which a woman sees a red flower and exclaims: "This color is not allowed!". She speaks these words using her lips, covered with loud, bright red lipstick.
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Hi again, this is James Brown once more to say fuck! I love the curses you can use here, goddammit. So this woman with the bright red lips, hold on... ahh...oh god I thought it was just gas in there, dammit now I gotta change later, damn that shit stinks...okay so this chick with the red lips, well member that song lipstick on the collar told the tale about the cheating dick and his whore, well I wonder what tale the lipstick on my little puddin' hammer will tell, cause woo hoo that was some fun last night. Oh and also this movie could be good if the woman all take showers together. That is all, UNITYYY!!!
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We are really watching a close up of a stratgey board game with two guys playing. The people are moved like chess pieces and we can see in the trailer a person from the viallge surrouned by red flowers, and if he can stand still without getting scared or moving he owns that space on the playing board. The houses marked red are part of lost land, because a monster from the red team managed to cross to that part of the Yellow land so the red team owns it now. The Yellow team land is clearly marked by yellow flags, and the red team land is marked by those red Dummies. Phoenix has to cross into the forest and he has to spend the night there to claim it, thus earning the last red square from the red team. PC gamers will LOVE THIS MOVIE!!!
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I have noticed that everyone is now calling M. Night by the nickname of "Shama-lama-ding-dong". Credit Chicken George for coming up with that one. Are we becoming an army of Chicken cronies or what?
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Hello to all, my name is James Brown, and I just realized that this here director is the maker of dat flick where Shaft is a big cripled pussy, I hated that movie. I usually like Die Hard when he is in movies, but instead of turning to Shaft and yelling "Yipppee my kayak muthafucka" right to Shaft who then breaks a bottle of Jack Daniels over his head and they get all crazy and shit, see instead of that he just whispers the whole time, and then Shaft he just humps around like drunken vet with his little cane and his purple jacket, man that was a stinker, I was ready to leave a warm cleveland steamer on my seat but the damn MAN came in and took me back to my regular cell before I could. Goddammit how the fuck can I get loopy juice from Cap'n Jack if they keep telling me it is a violation of my parole! Damn them sumabitches!
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When you make better movies let me know, fucktard.
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Yep - the man in the closing scene screams out "Crazy white people", indeed - but the twist is that he says it in Russian. "
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to see the above,
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moriarty, people are going to disagree with you no matter what. whining and complaining about it is just going to give them more ammo and make you seem like a little bitch. deal with it
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Ok, granted this could be one of the bigest mistakes of his career I must that people are a bit off when they say Night's movies are about twist endings. They do have a twist, but as Night describes them himself he says he writes a move about a revelation. Is there a difference? Yes. People keep saying the ending of Signs was a horrible twist and I have to ask, who said there was one? I never saw a twist in the movie, I saw the realization that faith is real and so is God. Not some "twist ending" I mean come on who didn't see that being the actual ending? I did. It had to be. And in UNbreakable, the 'twist'isn't David DUnn is a superhero, its that David and Elijah have found their place in the world. And if there is a twist in that movie its that Elijah killed all of those people... EIther way, I am going to trust that somehow this movie "The Village" is going to be very good.
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I mean come on!!! Some of you guys are just dumb
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He sleeps on a pile of money with many beautiful women. And if he doesn't, he very easily COULD. You fucking crybaby faggots. Go make a box-office hit and get nominated for an Oscar. Until then, shut your hideous fucking faces. You people make me sick.
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I must agree there too. I think Shyamalan is genius. I personally think the ending is pretty cool, whether or not it is real. Reason being, is that I trust Night as a filmmaker. The only reason I am upset about the ending is because load mouth people who get all in a hoopla about stuff like this had to go ruin it for me. So, I'm pissed now because the movie I was looking forward to since I first read about it has been spoiled for me. So, now I get to sit in a movie theater and know the ending to a movie that I really would have just seen unfold before me and be excited about it. Anyways, I agree, get off his back. Let the man live outside of Sixth Senses shadow! Few filmmakers ever get movies like that, let alone ever doing it again!
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The twist was, it sucked. Pretty brilliant when you think about it.
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Tricky finger.....anyway, I agree, I love MNS, and so do the people that pay for the tickets who make him money. Signs was a box office hit for a reason, people loved that movie. The only complaints I remember hearing is that people wanted gore and bloodshed. The guy is fucking talented, great suspense builder, I fucking love him, and if he was no good we all wouldn't be sitting here bullshitting about him. HA!
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The more I think about this movie the more I get excited about it. I think it's gonna be killer to see how he pulls this off. I mean it can't be terrible. I mean how in the world could a) Night make a piece of crap (hush all you haters) and b) (the most telling of it all) get the cast he has gotten for this film (hello almost everyone on there has one an oscar or at least been nominated). It's gonna be a ride and I can't wait! And I echo the HA! from delwin.
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I agree with thirdeyeh, why would these high caliber actors sign on to a pile of shit? I read that Weaver never had a nightmare making Aliens, but did with this film. Even I had a nightmare about those Aliens!
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Apr 29, 2004 1:07:29 AM CDT
PLEASE BAN PA_somewhere, or at least delete his posts
by stanley spector
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this movie is somewhat related to a true story about a villiage in PA in the 1700s. People kept on disappearing until the entire town vanished. People reported seeing green, glowing beasts take people away. The theory is that when rye seed is kept in damp, dark places it develops a type of fungus that causes LSD-like hallucinations. So, the people were hallucinating and killed each other off, committed suicide, or just ran into the woods
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it's not a period piece at all and the village is like some amish community that hasn't kept pace with the world (like the japanese soldier in the paciifc who doesn't know the war is over). the "thing in the woods" that they're afraid of is "progress" - man has entered the forest - and the red marks on the doors have been put there by the city council to designate which homes have been "re-zoned" and ear-marked for commercial development. i.e. joaquin's house is to become a 7-11, william hurt's a denny's, and sigourney weaver's a shopping mall with multiplex. sounds good. but i think it would be funnier if they had cast ben stiller.
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Delete that PA_somewhere mullet wearing shitface right friggin' now Mory!!! And btw, PA, you jerkwad loser, what's suckin' MNS's nuts day after day feel like? Must be bitter indeed. Poor Adrien Brody, he should be miles away from this piece of celluloid waste.
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Apr 29, 2004 3:32:53 AM CDT
Will this movie star a cop, a construction worker, a biker and a
by gere's assgerbil
I'd like to see the monsters in the woods groovin' to YMCA. That'd be cool. I guess I'm in the pro-6th Sense, pro-Unbreakable, anti-Signs camp. This one looks more like Signs to me, so I'm remaining cautious.
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actually,m.shamalamadingdong pulls a mask off,ala ethan hunt,and reveals himself to be .... Mel Gibson.big surprise
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And, of course, exactly as I predicted. So far, the most rabid defender of Shyamalan seems to think they need to attack "the jews" in order to make their point. Wonderful. I'm sure he's proud to have you as a fan. To those who think the script's a fake, and who want to hold out hope for the ending, by all means. I'm not telling you not to see it. In fact, I said it's a well-cut trailer. I'm sure it will be an exceptionally confident film. But personally, I found the ending offensive. And, no, I'm not being racist by including the reference to "crazy fucking white people." That gem came out of the word processor of Shyamalan himself.
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...and I know it because this movie has the same ending as The Color Purple. Remember at the end when Celie (Whoopi Goldberg) is running away from her husband (Danny Glover) and comes out of the woods and almost gets hit by a Toyota Minivan. We realize that she wasn't living in the deep South of 1909 but in West Hollywood in 1989. She sees the van and runs off screaming, right past Steven Spielberg (the director) who's dressed up like a construction worker. He mutters, "Crazy fuckin' black people," and goes back to work.
REMEMBER!?! That wasn't offensive and if you can get away with saying "crazy fuckin' black people" then surely you can say "crazy fuckin' white people."
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Sixth sense was okay, though nothing like as scary as the commoners thought, plus a feelgood ending. All ghosts are nice it you just TALK to them. Fuck that shit. What if you met the ghost of Jeffrey Dahmer or Ed Gein? Unbreakable was glacial tosh and Signs was such stupid portentious crap (allowing the execrable Mel Gibson to indulge his catholic fantasies again) that I forgot it when I went to the bathroom. Resolution is the death of fear.
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Sixth sense was okay, though nothing like as scary as the commoners thought, plus a feelgood ending. All ghosts are nice it you just TALK to them. Fuck that shit. What if you met the ghost of Jeffrey Dahmer or Ed Gein? Unbreakable was glacial tosh and Signs was such stupid portentious crap (allowing the execrable Mel Gibson to indulge his catholic fantasies again) that I forgot it when I went to the bathroom. Resolution is the death of fear.
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THE CON IS ON
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the ending sounds pretty twighlight zone-ish. not bad but i hope you're wrong. oh and i thought this was supposed to take place in pennsylvania 1897. bulldozers and similar machines weren't invented until 20 years later. so how could they have this on going truce? am i right? or does that matter?
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Why is it that no one can point to an actual link where a copy of the 'script' can be read or downloaded? Why are all requests for disclosure of the leaked 'twist' either ignored or rebuffed? No one seems top have any reliable information on this topic one way or the other. AICN has been notoriously, painfully, hackishly UNreliable over the past couple of months. Where did Harry and Moriarity get this script from? They dont say, and there is no indication given as to how we may see it and judge for ourselves. None of the TalkBackers seem to know anything concrete about what the supposed twist is. I've been to the IMDb boards, and it's the same story. People think it's gonna be great, others think it's gonna suck; everyone
'knows' that there is a leaked script out there somewhere that might be fake, but no one's actually read it for themselves. This smells like urban legend to me, folks. Might AICN be full of shit? Stranger things have happened. I don't know what to make of this whole discussion; it seems utterly pointless. Either tell us exactly what happens at the end of the leaked script, or post a link where we can read it for ourselves. I'm also suspicious that there may be TBers who have knowledge, and are posting it, but that their posts are being deleted. Some of the posters have asked directly for information, and have been told by others to 'read the fucking script'. That's great; where? Does it even exist? -
Just the fact that it says "Quicktime- Fullscreen (If you dare!)" makes me think this movie is going to suck AND blow
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just out of curiosity, who's running The Android's Dungeon while you're blathering on and on like a crackhead with turets syndrome? I happened to stumble upon this board while trying to find the expected twist for "the Village" and instead I have to read through 5 hours of your pretentious pig shit. Not that many here are much better, but you seemed to be the worst. Perhaps you dipshits should remember that, while you sit around trying to out-nerd each other, these are just fucking movies that you're talking about. If you like a director's style, go see his movies, if you don't, just shut the fuck up. Either way, stooping to the depths of kindergardenesque name calling is pretty fucking pathetic. (Trust me, I already see my own hypocrisy. I don't care, eat me!) You you ass-junkies seem to have forgotten is that the average (read: normal) movie-goer was generally entertained by at least 1, if not all of Shyamalan's previous efforts. Yes, for the most part, the twists were obvious to most people at some point in the movie. Yes, he's paineted himself into a corner with everyone expecting a huge twist at the end (and no, there were no twists in Signs, it just sucked.) BUT, that's why people go to see his movies. It's simply just a modern form of a who-dunnit mystery. Part of the mass appeal that these movies hold is that the average (once again: normal) viewer enjoys trying to figure out the twist. films like the Usual Suspects have groomed audiences for to expect the twist. That said, as a non-regular for this site, and judging from what I've seen, I'll now toss my THC filled theory out there. Shyamalan and the Nerd-Gods that runs these sites are in on this script leak together to keep you dipshits guessing. Here's a fucking reality check, Hollywood, movies, and these sites are businesses, and the people that are bankrolling this shit, as well as MNS, who seems to be an intelligent human, all know that, after the disappointment that was Sign's, everyone's gonna wait to see this flick until after the 1st week. So if the twist, assuming there is one, is that it's modern-day, the thing will tank after the 1st week or 2. Either way, I really don't give a fuck, but given all the bullshit that's being tossed around here, that's the most probable scenerio. And just to add a preemtive justification for such a seemingly ludacris conspiracy theory. The guys upstairs know that there are very few assholes in the world who actually care enough to try and track down the twist endings to these movies before they come out, and even fewer assholes that are willing to sit around and debate it. That being said, since you jerk off have a self-contained commune within these few sites, it's almost effortless to pull something like this off. I guarantee that more of you will go see the movie now, just to check out the hype you read here, than if this discussion had never occured. And don't think for a minute that all of the pretentios claims of, "I saw it coming in the 1st 5 minutes" has anyone fooled anymore that claiming you'll never see another one of is movies again, b/c you know damn well that you'll be there on opening night, just in case you happen to be right for once in your pathetic existences, so you can run back to your keyboards and try to advance yourselves up the geek pecking order. I've already put way to much time into this than I ever intended, so I'll wrap by saying that I don't give a flying fuck what any of you think of any of this. I'm sure it's filled with hypocrisy and spelling and grammatical errors, especially given my state of mind and the time of night. So if anyone even bothers responding, you're probably a bigger douchebag than I even thought you were.
on a side note: if any of you, including Harry or this Moriarity guy (I'm assuming they're the moderators or some shit like that) think that an alleged quote about stupid white people means that the author is a racist, congrats, you just won the "I'm the dumbest, most naive, motherfucker in the world" award. It's an alleged fucking line, in an alleged fucking script. Besides, last time I checked, there were't too many people in this country that gave a fuck about hating white people anyway. I thought is was the cool thing to do now with this war going on. At least that what they said on 60 minutes.
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