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A Reader In Brazil Took A Trip With THE MOTORCYCLE DIARIES!!
Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...
This is one of the films I’m really curious about this year. I’m hearing strong stuff across the board, and today’s review is no different...
Hey, Harry.
Straight from the sunny Brazil, here I come to let all fellow geeks know
about a cinematic gem: The Motorcycle Diaries, the new movie from Central
Station's and Behind the Sun's Walter Salles. I just saw the premiere of
the
movie in São Paulo, and he was there chocked with raw emotion. Granted,
Central Station is way too deep in sacaryne, and Behind the Sun just had
no
emotional impact on me whatsoever. But, my friend, The Motorcycle Diaries
is
the real deal. Walter Salles is all grown up as a director now.
The movie, for everybody who hasn't read a line on the latest Sundance
Festival, follows the journey of a young medicine student, Ernesto
Guevara,
and his friend, Alfredo Granada, from Buenos Aires to Caracas riding "La
Poderosa", a 1939 Nexus 500. To quote from Larry Mullen Jr. in the U2
film,
Rattle and Hum, it's an "emotional journey". You better believe it. What
started as a trip of two friends who wanted to see their continent (and
bed
a lot of women) ended up as a portrait of a boy becoming a man. After all,
Ernesto was 23 at the time, but the places he's been and the people he saw
planted the seed of what his life would become. Yes, Ernesto "Che" Guevara
is the name the whole world came to know and respect.
But we don't see Fidel's buddy here, not a revolutionary, not a guy who
relies on guns. On The Motorcycle Diaries, Che is a real person, not a
myth.
He's down-to-his-heart honest, and we witness ths change in his eyes when
the road gets to him. Really, guys, I won't spoil any of the movie moments
here. Helmer Walter Salles, who alongside with cast and crew recreated the
long journay of Guevara and Granada, wants you to take the experience in
the
raw. From the innocenco of the Buenos Aires streets, to the last goodbye
with his girlfriend, Ernesto - or "Fuser", the nickname Granada gives him
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comes to see poverty, social disbalance, the power of money and the
pleasures of helping people. Gael Garcia Bernal - who, believe me, is to
become a big star after this thing of beauty is released - has it all, and
is in such command of his craft that you can't help yourself but pack your
things and tag along. It's all in the eyes, and his innocence is crashed
under the weight of sheer reality, what he sees changes the man he wanted
to
become and, as history taught us well, makes him rethink his future, once
a
very well drawn path, now a blurred line lost in the mist.
Salles, with his visual flair and smooth storytelling - the movie was
edited
by City of God's Academy Award nominated Daniel Rezende -, has just shown
to
the whole world what Brazil - and Latin America - has to show the old
farts
who makes movies what new blood can do to the experience of going to the
theater and having your perception of life forever altered. It's Salles,
and
Alfonso Cuarón, and Fernando Meirelles, and Guillermo del Toro, and
Alessandro Iñarritú (fuck, did I just mispelled it?). Man, I can't wait to
see Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. Or The Constant Gardener.
And
the remake of the japanese fright fest Dark Water, in the hands os Salles
himself. He showed it to me. When the lights are back on after The
Motorcycle Diaries, you'll all see it too.
If you use it, just call me Nathan da SilvaThanks, Nathan.
"Moriarty" out.
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Apr 27, 2004 6:04:40 AM CDT
"Yes, Ernesto 'Che' Guevara is the name the whole world came to
by hulkdog
Um, no. Guevara becomes a ruthless killer. No respect from me.
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"Um, no. Guevara becomes a ruthless killer. No respect from me."
I'll second that. Besides, I'm still waiting for the film about the shy, misunderstood, young artist from Vienna that the world would come to know and respect.
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That's how much I love and respect him.
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oh you crybabies can suck it
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most yankees here won't get a chance to get to Havana any time soon...until ol fidel buys the farm, and after that it's gonna change for the worse anyhow.....but right now, if you're from just about any other country, you can go and see for yourself what a legacy this man created.....his face is on everything there....and it's impressive...this man is an icon, a revolutionary, and a saint to a lot of people....it's a shame that the only revolutionaries some folks can admire are george washington and his ilk._________________anyhow, this movie sounds amazing.....i thought i'd heard about another che movie in the works..possibly to star someone else tho...like Benicio Del Toro
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Is Che more of an admired revolutionary in Canada (outside of certain university campuses)than "George Washington and his ilk"? Just wondering.
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This movie sounds really good. I will definitely be checking it out. Che will always be one of the greatest freedom fighters the world has known.
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Only in the US he is hated. No surprise there, since he spent most of his life fighting the oppressing dictators of Latin America who were all CIA minions. The guy travel from country to country helping the people figth against men wghi would torture, kill and "suicide" anyone to stop the "communist threath". Myself, I wouldn't piss on Bush if he was on fire. I might even thow in some gasoline... But then again, wouldn't everyone? I have nothing against the US, its people, andits culture, but, man do I hate republicans...
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just for the record...
In Canada, we learn about george washington and many of the other leaders of the revolution in much the same way as you folks in the States...in School..on TV...etc...
our opinions on them?...probably range from polite interest, curiosity, and or complete disregard......he's a leader out of the distant past that threw off the mantle of the british....as far as first presidents go...you couldn't have asked for a cooler one...dude looks like he could whup ass and take names..then still have time to go smoke a bowl at home on the plantation (nods to dazed and confused).......................as for how we Canucks feel about Che...for many, it's pretty much the same....he's definitely a revolutionary....and definitely a huge historical figure....i think that his agenda was the opposite of General Washingtons, and much more 'for the people'...which is always a nice thing....most folks aren't to big on rich folks always calling the shots....not that i'm all in favour of comunism or anything...you have to admit though, that it's always interesting to see how some folks hero's are another folks villains.....and thats pretty much the end of it....we probably have a tendency to see Che as a folk hero....i suppose it's possible that many americans dont' see it that way.... -
What is it about dictators and brutal oppressors that attract liberals and leftists so? Is it because the braindead professor at your local community college spews nonsense about "the people" and the wonders of socialism? Guevara actually envisioned a "new man" that had absolutely no ego, and was filled with love for his fellow man. In other words - he envisioned perfect subordinates. What a piece of shit.
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she never appaers if its not to spew forth venom every time people here make some comment that is not 100% brainwashed fascist dogma.she never has any comment to make about any movie.so what is she doing here?is she so miserable that her only amusement is to attack "liberals"?or is she some lowly secret agency flunky assigned to monitor internet talbacks?get a life.try to get laid,it will make you less obnoxius.and stop making a bad name for vikings you fool!
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I love this shit
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so your wrong! There are some people outside the USA that don't like the guy. The guy started out meaning well and then flipped out. I just find it funny how some people like to wear Che Guevara T-shirts and don't know crap about him. I approach a guy, point at his shirt and I'm like " hey man, so what exactly did that guy do? " and he's like " I don't know, isn't he a rebel or something. I just wear it cause Rage Against The Machine is the shiznit and those guys like him for some reason...FUCK THE ESTABLISHMENT MAN! "...CHEERS Amigos!
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Let's give it another chance!
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I'd like to announce that the winner of this talkback battle (communist or capitalist) will have their system imposed on all countries in the world! Thats right! How? Well I didnt want to say it earlier but Im Nelson Mandela. Yeah, that Nelson Mandela. And Kofi Annan is my good buddy. Ill talk to him and he'll get the UN to do the rest. Simple as that. So put forth your best arguements, disses, and zingers cause this is gonna settle it for once and for all! Communism or Capitalism. Which will win? It will all be decided here in this talkback!!!
Oh and watch out for my new Fox cop show staring me Nelson Mandela! Its called "You Can Run...but you can't Apartheid!" coming this fall... -
...but he chose the bolivian jungle and a machine gun instead. It's funny how all of you can hate one man so much. You cannot accept it when your enemy fights back (even with all your military superiority), how piss weak is that. There was no one like Che he could have had everything but chose to die helping his fellow man throw off the angels of death that have always run your country. You only advocate killing if it suits your agenda, thats cowardly, your attempt at destroying Cuba for the last 40 years is cowardly, your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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So I could try to kill him, and he could try to kill me. There is a certain dignity to open class struggle of the pre-Gorbachev [hell, pre-Brezhnev] variety. It's certainly better than what we have now. How about we all agree to push a big "do-over" button, and we bring back all the old crew, like Che and Franco and even Sacco and Vanzetti and those anarchists that got their asses ran out of Chicago back in the day, and we all do a West Side Story style knife fight / dance? That sounds good to me. The thing about the Communists was that even if you hated them and wanted to "disappear" them, you could respect them. They wanted to liquidate you, and you wanted to liquidate them. Manichean systems are definitely the way to go. The good thing about that sort of dualistic concept war - and those of you trumpeting Che's sacrifice for the common man would do well to remember this - is that it has the singular benefit of elevating one's ego to the realm of the immortals. How much better is that then being some asshole doctor somewhere? If you all promise to bring back the cold war and all of its many delights, I would be more than happy to go camping in the jungle somewhere for a few months. Che laughed all the way to the ego bank with all the "giving up" he did.
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Che was really hot and that Y Tu Mama Tambien guy looks like the geeky kid in junior high who would sit in the back of class and eat paste. WTF?
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I don't really want to get into the Commie-Capitilist debate. I'm just not interested in another yawner art film. You know...folks they're just as formula as all those Hollywood movies that are vilified. Love the arthouse biopic formula. Pick a cultural or historical figure (Sylvia Plath, Che Guevara, T.S. Elliot), choose a time or event in their life (mental illness, youth, torrid love affair), then make the movie about that and make the thing that they are famous for INCIDENTAL. Don't ever show them doing whatever it is we revere them for. Include lots of scenes of actors screaming in pain or sitting in rooms thinking or crying. End with half assed revelation and subdued bittersweet moment. BORING. I'm gonna take a pass on this one. I saw Y Tu Mama Tambien. It was pretty good. Nicely shot, natch. Good acting. But not sure I care not they are on a Motorcycle and its Che. And can't biopics ever be complex. No one ever shows historical figures in ambivalent terms. usually they are lionized or vilified. I hope Soderbergh will do this Che. Not give us easy answers. The old Soderbergh would have. Everything post Brockivich is missing that. I don't care what you say. Traffic had all the depth of Miami Vice. Which by the way wasn't eactly shallow but added nothing new. Still not sure I care about the subject matter.
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It enobles you to fight noble men and women. By degrading your enemies, you simply degrade yourselves. Che is still a hero in every part of the globe except America. Politics apart, he's a symbol for uncompromising ideals, intellectual strength wed to revolutionary zeal. He was a trained doctor you know. He's certainly a better role model than any of the grey-haired simians in the White House, flabby cowards who'd hide in the basement if a firecracker went off outside.
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"By degrading your enemies, you simply degrade yourselves."
"He's certainly a better role model than any of the grey-haired simians in the White House, flabby cowards who'd hide in the basement if a firecracker went off outside."
Either way youre a clever, clever little manwhore.
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Love the Ayn Rand impression, it's hilarious. More please.
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Stoopid wants to lay it out that those who bash Che are uneducated..yet he then states that he wants to learn more about the "myth" of che...well, here are the facts: started a revolution in Cuba --- killed all kinds of good folks. Saw the writing on the wall re: Communism upon his visit to the USSR...he basically told Kruschev(sp?) to piss off when he saw all the opulence that the high ranking members of the Soviet Union basked in, while the rest of the country was standing in mile long lines for simple rations. He then became detached with the communist movement (although never admitted it)..tried to start some shit in Africa....had to eat his mules/horses for food...then finally got whacked by the good ole C. I. of A.
I used to have his picture on my 'puter's wallpaper... Now, I wouldn't use his image for bird cage lining. fuck him and his motorcycle...Bring back the casinos to Cuba and viva la fucking revolution. -
Che was one of the first so-called "terrorists" of the modern age. That is, a product of the CIA.
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Apr 29, 2004 1:52:53 PM CDT
What is it about dictators and brutal oppressors that attract co
by duanejones
somoza, pinochet, the shah, noriega...oh, yeah, and this saddam hussein fella secretary rumsfeld was on a first name basis with. remember the "kirkpatrick doctrine"? not exactly what you'd call dictator coddling coming from the left of anything. that's just off the top of my head. vikingkitty, please join us here on the planet earth or submit yourself to the richly deserved derision such a plainly deluded, and surely misinformed worldview will produce, just as sure as there are no WMDs...
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per an earlier question, this is in no way related to the benicio del toro che film terrence malick was working on for two decades and then bailed from...is it?
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