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First Test Screening Look At Terry Gilliam's THE BROTHERS GRIMM!

Hey folks, Harry here... Here's one of those reviews that doesn't give you much to go on, but seems to complain about the running time, which given that THE BROTHERS GRIMM isn't due for release till November 19th of this year... well, Gilliam's films tend to get trimmed down from their initial cuts. The production design on this film has been absolutely beautiful - as one would expect, I just wish that Matt Damon's nose would have been messed up as originally planned, just cuz... well... I love disfigured actors in movies... especially in Gilliam movies. This is definitely one of my most anticipated films of the year. Here ya go... basically no spoilers here...

hey harry -

tonight I went to a test screening of Terry Gilliam's next movie, The Brothers Grimm. We got the usual "no cameras; don't put this on the internet; this hasn't been color corrected," speech and then they started the movie. Basically it's about The Brothers Grimm - as in the authors of the fairy tales - played by Matt Damon and Heath Ledger.

When we first see them, they're hoaxing a small town into paying them to rid the old mill of a witch. They stage an attack from the "witch," and make it look like they killed her, only to move on to the next town and do the same thing all over again.

Meanwhile, Napoleon's armies are taking over a small German town. Also in this town, a bunch of little girls have gone missing, probably into the scary woods nearby. So of course The Brothers Grimm get called in to investigate, and for the first time they actually DO have to face the supernatural.

They're torn apart over a local tough girl (Lena Headey, whoever she is), and interact with some supporting characters played by the likes of Monica Bellucci, Peter Stormare, and Jonathan Pryce.

Overall the story was pretty interesting, once it finally got into gear, but it was a little too long - just under two and a half hours. I know Gilliam likes to take his time, but for the most part I wasn't crazy about the French military stuff.

One fun game during the movie was to spot the little things that would obviously later inspire little details about the Grimm fairy tales, a la Shakespeare in Love or George Lucas in Love. Problem was, the brothers were usually not even around to witness most of these occurances - kinda like how no one heard Charles Foster Kane say "Rosebud."

Overall I recommend it, and I will definitely see it again upon its release to check out the effects shots.

Take it easy...

-00Kevin

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  • April 20, 2004, 6:18 a.m. CST

    gilliam the king

    by megily

    without doubt gilliam is one of the most unique visionaries around, his movies are always must see.

  • April 20, 2004, 6:18 a.m. CST

    I am first James Bitch!

    by Bcphil

  • April 20, 2004, 6:18 a.m. CST

    Well maybe not :(

    by Bcphil

  • April 20, 2004, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Want to say First but know I'll end up looking like a stupid fuc

    by Samson_K

    I love Terry Gilliams films - with the exception of Fear and Loathing which I just found boring - like being forced to sit next to an alcoholic for a long train journey or something and I hope that this movie is a return to Time Bandits and Munchhausen. It'll be interesting how Damon and Ledger deal with his direction and storytelling style. I reckon Ledger will probably get it more.

  • April 20, 2004, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Authors?

    by Roderich

    The Brothers Grimm just collected folk-tales and published them, so this sounds somewhat silly all together. The BG were politically very active in germany those times, btw. Terry Gilliam wasn't so lucky with M

  • April 20, 2004, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the plot summary. But good is the movie?

    by SmarkJobber

    Talk about a non-review. The dude says it's interesting, but too long. And he recommends it, overall...I guess...because it's interesting. How are the performances? The photography? The music? Is it one of Gilliam's best? Worst? Give me something to work with here, broham.

  • April 20, 2004, 7:35 a.m. CST

    With Depp now on the A List, Gilliam shouldn't have any problem

    by FrankDrebin

    ...that is, if Depp still wants to do it--he might be after big paycheck movies now while he's hot, then go back to independent (low-paying) movies when Hollywood decides he's no longer flavor-of-the-month. Also, Gilliam might never want to hear the words Don Quixote ever again, considering everything he went through for ten years.

  • April 20, 2004, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Plant!

    by rev_skarekroe

    I don't really think that, but it wouldn't be a test-screening talkback without at least one "plant" accusation. sk

  • April 20, 2004, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Jonathan Pryce

    by RenoNevada2000

    Is always worth seeing in a Gilliam movie.

  • April 20, 2004, 9:20 a.m. CST

    I can't believe Damon was Gilliam's first choice, but to get the

    by Lance Rock

  • April 20, 2004, 10:17 a.m. CST

    But will Ian Holm be reprising my favorite role of his, Napoleon

    by Trav McGee

    "Now zat is fonny! Leetle theengs [now looking insane] HEETTING EACH OTHER..."

  • April 20, 2004, 10:21 a.m. CST

    TG Has Had a Hard Road, True

    by Van Damned

    People either appreciate his visions or not, and when it's not they rail on about how confused and all over the place he is. That's because in order to appreciate Mr. Gilliam's films you have to have one quality, at least a bit of it, which many folks keep hidden too far under thier Atkins Trimspa Zyban Zoloft extreriors: madness. it's what makes Tim Burton's films so damned enjoyable. These two were cut from the same cloth. Unfortunately, Mr. Gilliam has worse luck than Mr. Burton. My final words: Mr. Gilliam, PLEASE make "The Man Who Shot Don Quixote". If you can't get Johnny Depp again (which would be an error on his part but I'm thinking he will do it), then I'm sure you can find someone else - Mr. McGregor perhaps. Point is: I've seen what you filmed and REALLY want to see the completed vision. Good luck.

  • April 20, 2004, 10:27 a.m. CST

    I want my 2 minutes back

    by amrcanpoet

    What a lame-ass review.

  • April 20, 2004, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Monic Bellucci

    by Ico1

    http://www.thezreview.co.uk/news2/news504.htm

  • April 20, 2004, 10:36 a.m. CST

    TWO AND A WHOLE HALF HOURS LONG??????

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    OH MY GOD!!! IF THIS MOVIE DARES TO RUN A TOTAL OF 150 MINUTES I THINK I WILL HAVE TO PROTEST IT...EVEN IF IT IS THE GENIUS OF TERRY GILLIAM...BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE EVERYTHING FED TO US IN UNDER 33 SECONDS DAMMIT!!!! FUCK THIS!!! I SAY TERRY SHOULD JUST PUT THE OUTLINE ON THE FUCKING POSTERS (along with cute pictures of those nice boys) AND THEN WE WILL KNOW EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW AND IT WILL BE DONE!!! THEN WE CAN GO SEE SHIT THAT HAS THANKFULLY GOTTEN RID OF THINGS LIKE ENDINGS AND STORY DEVELOPMENT AND GOTTEN STRAIGHT INTO BLOWIN' SHIT UP LIKE ALL GOOD OLD AMERICAN MOVIES SHOULD HAVE GODDAMMIT!!!! WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW THE HOW, THE WHY, THE WHO, THE WHAT, THE WHEN, THE WHERE....JUST START THE FUCKING EXPLOSIONS AND ROLL OUT THE TITTIES!!!! THAT'S RIGHT..THE TITTIES!!! BUT KEEP THEM TITTIES COVERED UP...BECAUSE WE DO NOT NEED TO SEE ACTUAL TITTIES!!! AND MAKE SURE WE DO NOT SEE OR HEAR THOSE BIG EXPLOSIONS EITHER BECAUSE WE DO NOT NEED TO SEE ANY BLOODSHED THAT WILL GIVE ALL OUR RED BLOODED AMERICAN CHILDREN THE WRONG IDEAS...THEY NEED TO BE PURE OF MIND WHEN THEY GROW UP AND KILL ARABS!!! JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU KEEP IT SHORT, FREE OF NIDITY AND VIOLENCE, AND STICK A FEW AMERICAN FLAGS IN THERE SO WE CAN SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGANCE WHILE WE ARE WATCHING THE MOVIE AND BACK HOME IN UNDER TWENTY MINUTES!!!!!....And thus, Jesus only watches FOX! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • April 20, 2004, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Elements from Dragonheart, Frighteners, Shakespeare in Love...

    by jimmy_009

    ...C'mon Gilliam you're known for originality.

  • April 20, 2004, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Wowie Zowie

    by Cumdumpster

    http://www.ibiblio.org/jmaynard/TRONcostume/

  • April 20, 2004, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Cumdumpster

    by Trik

    How many months pregnant is that guy? ... Did you want us to see the pregger guys costume or his smallish package?

  • April 20, 2004, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Looking forward to this, as I am ANYTHING that Gilliam does.

    by morGoth

    I just love the guys

  • April 20, 2004, 12:42 p.m. CST

    will look good

    by HIPPO

    At least we know it will look good.

  • April 20, 2004, 1:15 p.m. CST

    YOU IDIOTS, THE CARETAKER HEARS KANE SAY "ROSEBUD"

    by geonosis

    watch the movie carefully. the lights get turned off by somebody when we first go into Kane's bedroom. It isn't the nurse, because she is seen entering after the globe breaks, and Kane himself cannot move. Towards the end of the movie, the caretaker of the house, played by Paul Stewart, says to the journalist that: "I've heard him say it the other time too. He just said ROSEBUD, then he dropped the glass ball and it broke on the floor". HE was in the room when Kane died, HE turned off the lights. Please watch it again carefully before making wild claims or quoting "critics" who also lack a critical eye for detail.

  • April 20, 2004, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Gilliam never disappoints

    by beamish13

    except "Jabberwocky", which is forgivable, since it was made early in his directorial career. I'm not crazy about Damon or Ledger, though...

  • April 20, 2004, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Trik

    by Cumdumpster

    My favorite quote is "I saw lots of TRON costumes on the net, and wasn't satisfied with any of them." Jesus. Jesus Christ.

  • April 20, 2004, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Citizen Kane ...

    by timmer33

    ... was a terrible film. For a movie to be truly great it has to stand the test of time. This film does not. While watching it recently I couldn't help but think about ED WOOD's films like PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE. It's hard to take CITIZEN seriously. It's a bad, bad movie. Now, I understand that it was original in its time and had a tremendous impact on filmmaking in general, but it just doesn't stand up today.

  • April 20, 2004, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Ummmm

    by illegit

    One of the main reasons (amongst hundreds) that Kane is great is precisely because of how well it DOES stand the test of time. Timeless is just that; timeless. Even if you're under the very false, and ignorant opinion that it isn't timeless, it's still literally, factually wrong to call it a 'bad, bad film'. Oh, and Gilliam owns.

  • April 20, 2004, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Kane

    by DarkBastion

    timmer33,it would seem that you equating CK with other b&w Ed Wood films is just a personal hang up. Sure, they're old movies and the film stock and sound are about equal, but I can't imagine how anyone can call CK a bad movie. Even by today's standards, it's exciting, well-written, well-done, well-acted, and just overall a great movie. I don't agree that its the best movie ever made, I don't know how you quantify that, but I can't understand how you can call Kane terrible. What, then, in your opinion, is a good movie?

  • April 20, 2004, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Well said...

    by Thing-Fish

    Amen, Chicken George, amen.

  • April 20, 2004, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Cumdumpster

    by DocPazuzu

    Damn you! Damn your black heart for posting that link! I just wanted to weep when I saw that... that... thing. I may have to sleep with my light on tonight to stave off the nightmares. Geekdom at its saddest.

  • April 20, 2004, 5:53 p.m. CST

    "I know gilliam likes to take his time." TRANSLATION: I'm a fuck

    by MattyBoomStar

    I'm sick of you loser half-wits who write like god damn ESL students writing crap opinions about great directors. Gilliam could eat your brain. All you should do is drool and whimper, how dare you mouth off at the master. Go watch Johnson Family Vacation and shut the fuck up. www.WhiteEyeLid.com

  • April 20, 2004, 6:08 p.m. CST

    "I wasn't crazy about the French military stuff."!

    by Danger Mouse

    What a heathen!!! Phillistine!!! Gilliam is a film making God! This guy probably wouldn't have likes Brazil... That's the trouble with these pre-screenings, just who are they getting to see these films? Are they from the audience that would have bought tickets? Stick to your guns Mr. Gilliam, we trust you to make great film (if you can get them filmed of course!).

  • April 20, 2004, 6:14 p.m. CST

    the caretaker hears rosebud.....

    by JackLint

    in theory. Go back and watch the scene, he WHISPERS it. she really couldn't have heard it in another room before she came in. But its a lame complaint anyway.

  • April 20, 2004, 7:06 p.m. CST

    "One fun game during the movie..."-WTF???

    by msbrazil

    Why is one playing where's waldo when you are witnessing movie greatness before the rest of us schlubs even gets to see a trailer?? That was the most pedestrian review I've ever had the displeasure of reading. I can't even believe he was watching a Gilliam film. I am still breathlessly awaiting the release of what I am sure will be another gem in TG's ouevre. And BTW, Mr. Smalls and the rest of you naysayers, what have you got against Damon? He's going to be great!

  • April 20, 2004, 7:45 p.m. CST

    yay

    by horseloverfat723

    considering that I've loved EVERYTHING gilliam has ever done, (and i've seen it all), this makes me happy happy happy. I can't wait to see it. Gilliam will put the UMPH back in cinema, as he always does.

  • April 20, 2004, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Everyone bitches about ticket prices being too high

    by 007-11

    But when we're given movies long enough to make the ticket price worth it(we're getting more right?), everyone starts bitching. I've still got my attention span and have enjoyed everything i've seen from Terry Gilliam. Bring on the two and half-hour cut, I can take it.

  • April 20, 2004, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Gilliam is a god!

    by ADDowns

    I can't wait to see it and I don't care what any of you whiners have to say about it.

  • April 20, 2004, 9:55 p.m. CST

    MY EEEEEEYYYYYYEEEEEESSSS!!

    by half vader

    Gaaaahh! That Tron guy has scarred me for life - even moreso because he looks a bit like my uncle! Forget Star Wars kid - we have a new champion (I'm not talking about being overweight) here. Maybe he should have done little circuit lines on his scroat too. Or a 'cup' with light-up lines...and on his bum and...

  • April 21, 2004, 6:24 a.m. CST

    i wouldn't mind a 2.5hour running time for Gilliam

    by Demosthenes2

    His movies' production designs are so lovely that I need a while to take it all in anyway. And I'd sure hate for there to be a really crappy cut that defeats the entire artistic purpose like Brazil all over again.

  • April 21, 2004, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Gilliam's films are never great financial successes

    by TimBenzedrine

    But that's because it requires PATIENCE to enjoy Terry Gilliam's work. His films are usually more enjoyable the second or third time around. I wish he were directing Wonka, or one of the Harry Potter installments. The poster above who said he should do something with animation--- I couldn't agree more. It could easily be done today too with computers--like MattParker and Trey stone doing faux cutout animation for South Park on Maya. Damn. I wish I wish I had afew millions to invest in a Gilliam animated film.

  • April 21, 2004, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Baron M

    by Jeditemple

    The only decent thing to come out of "The Adventures of Baron M

  • April 21, 2004, 2:29 p.m. CST

    too british

    by joe brady

    Terry Gilliam is from America. He spent years collaborating with the Monty Python geezers, though, so maybe he could be considered British... I don't know, he's definitely a natural born yank, though.

  • April 21, 2004, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Baron Munchhaussen

    by TurtleWhistle

    The best thing to come out of Baron Munchaussen WAS THE WHOLE MOVIE! The End, Bye.

  • April 21, 2004, 4:15 p.m. CST

    My friend George the 7th Chicken....

    by Bregalad_

    THANK YOU indeed! Highest praise to one of the funniest and most insightful talk backers around today. I love irony, but your brand of irony is searingly funny. And on point. Man, you should write for "The Simpsons" -- that show needs a good, healthy, ironic little shot in the arm to keep it going. Well done sir. OH AND ALSO: Anything by Gilliam is first on my list of must-see films. He's one of the only truly visionary filmmakers we can count on (alongside Ridley Scott, Peter Jackson, and Tim Burton). Gilliam is working in the perfect medium for his imagination -- Cinema. More high praise to T.G., he deserves it. Bregalad out!

  • April 22, 2004, 12:43 a.m. CST

    disapointment

    by sittingundrtable

    at the cast "choices",

  • April 22, 2004, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Yesssh

    by cocolopez

    Gilliam is one of the five best directors working today. That and Monica's Bellucci's slamming chest has me sold. The scene when she gets anally raped for ten straight minutes in Irreversible had me conflicted for sure. I didn't know whether to turn away or beat off. Ungggh LOL

  • April 22, 2004, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Lena Headey's cousin just read that!

    by mikemystery

    My copywriter (i work in advertising London) just blew his top as Lena Headey is his cousin. He would like you to know that she's been in "loads of shit" Ripley's Game, The Jungle Book, Face (with ray winstone) Gossip with kate hudson. Watherland with jeremy irons and Remains of the Day. And she's been on TV in the UK loads. Apparently. And she's currently filming some "underwater aliens film in romania". Hehe the look on his face was priceless indeed...