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Coming To Burbank!! Giant Wednesday SAVE_ANGEL Rally!!

Wednesday, March 31 2004
Time: 3 pm - 7 pm PST
411 N. Hollywood Way.
That's Gate 11 at the WB Ranch.
Burbank, California 91505

I am – Hercules!!

Someone wrote in a week or two ago about spotting pro-“Angel” picketeers around the Warner Bros. lot in Burbank, and I thought to myself, “Dang! I can carry a placard! Wish somebody told me about it!”

Now imagine if every “Angel” fan in Los Angeles were to converge on Burbank. I’m pretty sure they all read Ain’t It Cool. This could be our chance.


Saving Angel to hold Viewer Rally at The WB Ranch on Wednesday, March 31, 2004.

On Wednesday, March 31, 2004, dedicated viewers of The WB television program Angel will gather at the Warner Brothers production ranch in Burbank, California to show support for the series and protest its untimely cancellation.

The rally is the latest step in a campaign orchestrated by Saving Angel ( and ), the coalition of Angel viewers who have come together in hopes of keeping the show on the air. SavingAngel has collected over $30,000 from devotees around the world, funding an unprecedented series of measures which have garnered national media attention.

"We had hoped that we would touch a nerve in the viewing public, but never expected the response to be so huge, nor the media coverage to be so encompassing." said Lisa Rowe, SavingAngel Media Liaison. "I believe that it sends a signal to the powers that be in TV that viewers really do have a desire to watch good scripted shows, and are speaking up about it."

So far, the campaign has included thousands of postcards and emails to network and media targets on a changing schedule, full-page ads in Variety and Hollywood Reporter, and a mobile billboard driving through the streets of Los Angeles (photos attached). The campaign has emphasized its desire to see quality scripted TV programming remain on the air.

Swing the crebbil!

I am – Hercules!!

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  • March 26, 2004, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Save Alf!

    by vekt0r

    That is all.

  • March 26, 2004, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Um, I love the show and all...

    by rev_skarekroe

    ...but wouldn't the time and energy be better spent protesting some social injustice or something? Or working to make the world a better place? Just asking. sk

  • March 26, 2004, 12:20 p.m. CST

    fucking first

    by DarkWater

    It's not gonna work... People rallying outside WB doesn't make the Nielsen ratings go up

  • March 26, 2004, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Send this to CHUD and other site who could support the effort

    by Jotham

    ANIC maybe the most viewed movie news site, but it's not the only one. Send the word out!! GEEKS OF THE WORLD UNITE!!

  • March 26, 2004, 12:32 p.m. CST

    What if the show doesn't want to be saved???

    by Barry Egan

    I've read several Boreanaz interviews in which he basically seems relived the show is ending. He seems ready to move on after playing the same guy for about 8 years. Maybe he doesn't want the show to be saved. Maybe the cast and crew are ready to move on to other work.

  • March 26, 2004, 12:50 p.m. CST

    folks, it's a TV SHOW. Perhaps we should save the rallies for t


    You know, minor shit like that. Egads people. I mean, I like the show, followed it religiously since it came on, but it's not going to ruin my world if it ends, and in fact I think this season has been pretty weak. But a PROTEST? That's just stupid.

  • March 26, 2004, 1:12 p.m. CST

    this is going to have the monumental turn out of the CAPTAIN SUL

    by Tall_Boy

    ie. about half a dozen desperate nerds. Seriously, save the protests for stuff where life and death is involved, ok? There's a war that was entirely based on falsehoods pushed on the American people, why don't you try getting ticked off about that?

  • March 26, 2004, 1:17 p.m. CST

    All this fuss over a mediocre show that's gonna cancelled anyway

    by Insane Tiki

    Angel's dead. Get over it. No more Buffyverse. EVER.

  • March 26, 2004, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Scapers did it, so can you!

    by whoopdeedoo

    Farscape fans banded together a year and a half ago, and succeeded in bringing the show back from cancellation. It CAN be done, it just might take a little while. Hang in there Angel fans, you WILL be heard!!!

  • March 26, 2004, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Protesting to save Angel

    by A_Evenstar

    I protest for alot of causes and have done so quite often. If I could be in Burbank next Wednesday, believe me I would be. I love Angel and don't want to see it go, that doesn't mean however that I don't have other causes that are just as much, if not more important. So why do people assume that if you showed up to support Angel, you wouldn't show up to support any other cause?? That's just dumb. Most of the people I know that watch the show are well rounded, politically motivated, socially conscious and active in other causes as well. After all, when you come home after a long day of protesting against the morons who are ruining the country, what do you want to watch to make you forget the world's troubles for a little while? Angel or another tired, boring reality show? I pick Angel, always.

  • March 26, 2004, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Why piss on other people's parade?

    by BlunderWoman

    Why do you naysayers want to put a wet blanket on a positive way for people to express their love of a show and their frustration of it being cancelled too soon? Fucking hell, in a time where EVERYONE is too cool for school and being cynical is a way of life, I think it's bloody marvelous that folks want to get together for something, ANYTHING they love. You'd like a more worthy cause? (World peace? OK then, get off your arse, Bob Geldof it up and I'll come to your rally too)Well, there's a load of 'Angel' fans (myself included) that have donated blood as a way of both adding support to the renewal effort AND to save lives. What the hell did you do with your day? So what if DB doesn't want to do the show anymore? Maybe he does, maybe he doen't. That info is not available to me or to anyone else here. Nor is it what's most important. It's not just about the WB or what an actor wants to do, or not do. I'm going to the rally to hang out with some like-minded people and protest the fact that networks seem to HAMSTRING quality product (and not just 'Angel') in favour of cookie-cutter crap (why is 'Charmed' still on, for example? And they're going to dip their wick in the stagnent pool of 'Dark Shadows'? Please!), that the WB pretty much lied through their teeth after the 100th ep ("ooooh! 'Angel' is our 2nd highest rated show and we are so completely behind it....then we can get into a good back-stabbing position") and, for the love of all that's unholy, it's good to make your voice heard. Herc, I really hope you come to the rally and I encourage anyone who enjoys watching well-scripted shows with engrossing plots, wit and some of the most engaging characters this side of 'Twin Peaks' (yes, I said it!) to join us too. Yes, maybe it won't save 'Angel' from an untimely death but you don't know until you try. (NOTE TO PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO WRITE SARCASTIC AND MEAN POSTS ADDRESSED TO MYSELF AND OTHERS WHO WANT TO RALLY: You won't spoil my fun and I'd don't think you'll spoil anyone else's.)

  • March 26, 2004, 2:53 p.m. CST

    this is what happens when geeks have waaaaaaaaay too much time o

    by jackburton2003


  • March 26, 2004, 3:04 p.m. CST

    let... it... go

    by gredenko

    it's far better turn burn out on top of the game than fade away. learn the lesson from kareem abdul-jabar--quit before you become a mockery and self-parody and a shadow of what you once were. angel is over, let it die. there will always be something else to obsess over anyway.

  • March 26, 2004, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Keep It Going!

    by Real Deal

    I think Angel has just begun to hit it's stride this year. There's alot more stories to be told.

  • March 26, 2004, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Boreanaz is so fat.

    by Christopher3

    Can't be playing ageless when he's turning into Shatner 2.0. Put down the donuts Dave.

  • March 26, 2004, 3:26 p.m. CST

    The ignorance on here is pathetic

    by Blok Narpin

    The show doesnt need it's rating to go up. The ratings are fine. It's being cancelled out of bitterness, not lack of viewers. As for the war based on falsehoods, what falseghoods would those be? The falsehoods that jackass Clarke is printing in his new book? The falsehoods Kerry and Dean are spewing? GO GET 'EM, GEORGE!! As for Angel, I wish I could be there on Wed. I would so love to attend this rally. I love this show with a passion, and have done all I can to help the cause (postcards, e-mails, faxes, phone calls). I'm still confident we'll prevail.

  • March 26, 2004, 3:27 p.m. CST


    by Asimov's Brain

    Good for you, people! Save Angel! Its the best show on TV, and it would be missed tremendously. Don't be embarrassed by assholes, people. SAVE THIS SHOW!!

  • March 26, 2004, 3:29 p.m. CST


    by Blok Narpin

    And now the naysayers are reduced to saying things like Boreanaz is fat?? Have you ever seen the man? Hardly.

  • March 26, 2004, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Well, he's definitely gotten huskier since Buffy.

    by Christopher3

    It's a shock to see him next to Marsters, who's 40 and looks the same he did 8 years ago.

  • March 26, 2004, 3:54 p.m. CST

    I'm all for saving it, it's one of my favorite shows....but

    by RobinP

    ...if an interview I've read over at Cinescape Coming Attractions is true, and not taken out of context, it seems that david Boreanaz is relieved that the show is going out on a high, and that he can pursue other opportunities (if memory serves). Now, I have to ask (and I'm a fan of the show, remember)- what's the point ? Really ?

  • March 26, 2004, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Is John Kerry FOR or AGAINST the renewel of ANGEL?

    by My Ass Smells

    It's election year and this will be a huge topic i will be paying attention to.

  • March 26, 2004, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Boreanaz interview

    by RenoNevada2000

    You know he just wants to go home and pork his piece o' ass wife all day and night...

  • March 26, 2004, 4:46 p.m. CST


    by Barry Egan

    I'll reiterate the point that the show itself and its cast and crew may not be as keen on the show being saved as the fan base is. I'm a huge Whedon fan and would hate to see all things Joss removed from TV. In interviews, DB seems pretty content with where he's at career-wise and seems intersted in getting on with the rest of his life. I'm sure there are others involved with Angel who will be sorry to see it end but look forward to doing something else. Perhps the fans should just let this one go and wait patiently for the Firefly movie. I'd rather see this effort go into a grassroots effort to make "Serenity" a huge box office success, which is the main thing that will give Joss the clout to continue his great work.

  • March 26, 2004, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Kerry and Angel

    by Barry Egan

    Kerry says he is in favor af Angel returning. However he has voted against Angel's return 73 times in the Senate.

  • March 26, 2004, 5:17 p.m. CST


    by Tall_Boy

    wow, you typed that in caps. It must be important. Jacksas.

  • March 26, 2004, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Geez...they find a cure for cancer already?

    by Hellboy

    Because people sure are putting a helluva lot of energy into some frivolous shit.

  • March 26, 2004, 5:38 p.m. CST

    World Peace? Cancer? those protests do nothing

    by coop

    I'm all for world peace and fighting cancer but picket all you want, it does nothing. When it comes to a tv show, you have better odds of accomplishing something. Remember all the anti-war protests? A lot of good they did.

  • March 26, 2004, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Applaud the effort.

    by mrfan

    But how is this suppose to raise the ratings? The ratings have been falling from the first episode this season. Ratings count for something. And this show is sliding.

  • March 26, 2004, 6:09 p.m. CST

    What about all the people who signed the petitions?

    by mrfan

    Are you going to clone all the idiots who signed it more than once so they can join in on the protest?

  • March 26, 2004, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Get a girlfriend?

    by Rogue Slayer

    Hate to tell you, most of the ralliers at the first rally were women! And I agree, nothing gets accomplished when you protest a war or for world peace....please, world peace will never happen. Talk about a pointless protest! TV shows have way more chance of being saved by a rally than a war does of ending.

  • March 26, 2004, 6:42 p.m. CST

    What Boreanaz interview?.....

    by zer0cool2k2

    I remember reading one from about a year ago where he said he was loking forward to trying other things. But the last one I remember reading, he said he was reenergized about the show's new direction and looking forward to another couple of seasons. (Of course, if the caoch tells the palyer he's been cut, the player Always tells the press how glad he is to be off that lousy team). ............... Nice to see there's still people jumping on the "Boreanaz is Fat" train two years late.

  • March 26, 2004, 7:16 p.m. CST

    its just a show but...

    by jakeuk

    Of course its a only a tv show, why make such a fuss to keep it? because Angel is a medium by which great stories are told by Whedon, and thats what its all about folks. Theres plenty of sci fi shows on that are aimed at kids, but not many that are aimed at an older generation and try to be a little bit more then just pure entertainment. After all whats Lotr? just an adult fantasy adventure. Buffy was a great show too, but ended at the right point, anymore seasons would of been too much. The reason why a lot of people are bent outta shape over Angel is because its ended before it should of. Personally i think it had another 2 seasons in it, to properly finish off the characters stories and leave an interesting legacy to do other things with maybe down the line. If it goes it will be a shame, because I can't think of anything else that could replace it, guess i'll just have to get used to 24/7 reality TV.

  • March 26, 2004, 7:38 p.m. CST

    I don't believe in world peace. I've *seen* Angel.

    by Horseflesh

    Go protesters.

  • March 26, 2004, 7:56 p.m. CST

    Put a word in for us fans in NC

    by Buff_Angel

    We may live on the other coast...but that doesn't mean that we don't love Angel just as much. Can someone please hold up a sign voicing that there are many more fans in NC that are unable to be there? Thanks

  • March 26, 2004, 7:59 p.m. CST


    by Lara06496

    Heyyyyy, shittalkers! sup. im the demographic those frogs aim at. teen girl with a life and a boyfriend, etc, etc. and if i were in cali, id be at the rally on the 31st. sadly, im not, but heres some info so yall can stop talkin about stuff u dont know about: ANGEL WAS ONE OF ONLY THREE SHOWS OUT OF ALL ON WB THAT GOT BETTER RATINGS THAN LAST YEAR. thats right, charmed and everwood "slid in the ratings" and angel, jamie kennedy, and i think it was smallville are the only ones that went up. so why are they cancelling it? i got no frikin idea.

  • March 26, 2004, 8:02 p.m. CST


    by Lara06496

    So MAYBE db dont wanna come back next year. so? they considered doing buffy w/o smg, so maybe if wb changes their minds and db wants to move on, spike/jm can take over-- which would kick ass, by the way. heres hopin.

  • March 26, 2004, 9:47 p.m. CST

    coop: I'm not talking about picketing for cancer

    by Hellboy

    I'm talking mostly about using funds for a worthy cause. These SAVE ANGEL fuckers are actually asking for hand-outs and spending money on these ads, events, whatever. Get that money to the cancer doctors, for Chrissakes...

  • March 26, 2004, 10:53 p.m. CST

    I'm with Laura on this one!

    by aqua_bfly

    I'm also the targetted audience, teenage girl with a *cute* boyfriend, (having a life is debatable, but thats a whole other dr. phil episode)and I love this show to death. Buffyverse rules, and no way in hell should AnGeL get cancelled. Of course, if they want to pursue their own careers and yada yada, then props to them, but i also have a feeling and implied evidence that ALOT of the cast was majorly dissapointed at this, so stop ppl need to stop saying that they need to move on. Yes, the money for the ANGEL campaign could be used for other things, but any campaign that is going to be at all effective needs financial support. Fans of this show are really loyal, and if the WB execs realized that, then maybe they'd reconsider! P.S. if anyone did watch ANGEL last year (and i have an incling some of u, we tried world peace. It didn't go so well.;P

  • March 27, 2004, 12:22 a.m. CST

    Sorry but ANGEL has run it's course

    by IAmLegolas

    You should be rallying to bring back Firefly instead. And don't you people have work to be at at 3pm on a Wednesday? I know I do.

  • March 27, 2004, 12:33 a.m. CST

    just my thoughts and nothing else

    by Melestopheles

    I have donated a lot of things in my life. Time, money and even my own blood. I'm sure many of you have also. Sometimes we give not for the noble reasons that we should but for more of those for our own personal gain. Matbe giving a pint of blood to get out of working for half an hour or cutting a class in school. Donating time to walk for that special cause of fighting breast cancer because a few pounds need to be shed. Are these the sole reasons? Of course not. But they are incentives. I gave blood on March 17th. I could have gone that saturday instead but I did it for ANGEL. It's still a pint towards my 25 gallon plate and forsome elderly woman going in for back surgery. By why not have it benefit something else? The argument has been made for people allocating there time for inconsequential means such as a tv show when they should be using it for something more important (i.e. world peace, homelessness, etc.). When it comes right down to it, how much time do we spend in front of the television? get home after commuting from work at 6, settle down and unwind in front of the t.v. If it wasn't such a big deal then why would a facet of our lives revolve around it? Perhaps it for our own inner peace; the levels of stress lowerng and our minds able to focus on something else then the drama wrapped in our own lives. Why not fight for something that is a part of your routine? In the Tampa Bay area a sports talk radio host recently passed away. I never met the man but had the pleasure of listening to him during work for 2 hours a day M-F. When I heard he died, I cried. I did not know why; I had no personal attachment to him but in reality I did. I was mourning the loss for his family but I was mourning the loss I would have. I would no longer know that from 10 - 12 I would express laughter or even anger. That part of my day where I had routinely tuned in and be entertained would be gone forever. The stimulating conversation would be lost in his interviews and moments of reflection; of "observing life" and relaying it to his listeners. Maybe this is why I feel a more powerful sense in trying to "save" this little program on t.v. I could not anything for the radio program but I can do something now. Could I spend time saving the environment or finding a cure for cancer? I can only support cancer research through donations and walk-a-thons. I can recycle and xeriscape my lawn. I do not have a medical degree or the knowledge in chemical waste refinement so that's the extent of what I can do to help. But I can do small things to help the quality of my own life because if everyone is looking out for others who will help ourselves individually? Helen Keller once said that "I may be one, but I still am one. I cannot do everything but at least I can do something." If I can't help save a T.V. show, how on earth will I realistically save our way of life? I guess one step at a time, right? (in closing please forgive my misspellings as I am such there are quite a few)

  • March 27, 2004, 3:56 a.m. CST

    John Kerry supported Angel's renewal, until he voted against it

    by godzthor1

    Even Kerry didn't like what WB and ME did to Charisma Carpenter...

  • March 27, 2004, 4:13 a.m. CST

    save angel

    by ph27

    extremely well said Melestopheles

  • March 27, 2004, 9:03 a.m. CST


    by Lou C.

    They collected $30,000 from a bunch of suckers to save a TV show? Is that what our society has come to? I don't normally piss in someone's cornflakes on this kinda thing, but give me a break. It's a fucking TV show. TV shows end. Who cares. Move on. There are more important things in life than forcing Boreanaz to do another season of his show. Get ... a ... grip ...

  • March 27, 2004, 11:58 a.m. CST


    by The Alienist

    The article I read had him basically nixing a return to the series as well as the TV movies supposedly dangled to mollify the fans. He keeps saying how sorry he is for the fans, yada. The question he contractually obligated to the show for at least another year. Cause if he ain't, folks, he's not coming back no matter if WB changes it's mind or Fox decides to pick the show up. Does anyone know how long he signed for?

  • March 27, 2004, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Boreanaz won't come back anyway!!

    by Brody77

    He did an interview with TV and Satellite weekly in the UK and went on record as saying after this he's done with it and WILL NOT be involved in any tv movies. Dick. Still,he's pretty much the only vampire character in the show who doesn't "vamp out" so no great loss! (Only half serious-the show is too cool to axe)

  • March 27, 2004, 3:06 p.m. CST

    To answer the question of Boreanaz'

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

  • March 27, 2004, 3:11 p.m. CST

    To answer the question of Boreanaz's contractual obligation...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    He signed a five-season contract -- most leads for TV series sign a deal for that many seasons. That's the maximum which the Screen Actor's Guild allows. After the first five, the maximum then becomes 2 seasons. And after that, only 1 season. So, here are the facts: Boreanaz signed for five seasons. Angel is winding down its fifth season. Boreanaz sounds like he doesn't want to come back. The WB has already said its over. Most drama series on The WB don't run for more than five seasons. The reason why: Like MTV, the primary demographic for their dramas are teens, and when a show "grows up" so does its demographic. It also becomes more expensive to fund further seasonss of a show beyond its fifth season. Also, The WB has never funded the production of a follow-up TV movie for a cancelled, though they've said in the past they would. Fans of "Popular" never got their TV movie continuation. Bottom line: This is the last season of Angel. And as for Episode 21, if SMG can't appear in it, I say Joss should just scrap the episode entire and do a totally different episode that's more focused on the cast.

  • March 27, 2004, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Cancel it to make room for a new show on the schedule

    by Bari Umenema

    You people have to realize that there's only so much room on the WB schedule for new programming, let this show die a natural death and with a little luck something better might take its place. If something worse appears it will die and something else will be put on, eventually a good show will flourish like Smallville did. All shows need to go eventually, it's the natural order of television programming.

  • March 27, 2004, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Isn't Wednesday a work day?

    by ScreamingPenis

    not to jump to any conclusions, but some of these fans must have regular jobs.

  • March 27, 2004, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Leave Angel Haters!!!!! .

    by sunnydalemagic

    Why the fuck are you even here then if all you're gonna do is attack the fans of the show? Herc being one of them! Talk about geeks and losers, you're the fucking losers if you're actually going to come to a board that loves Angel and talk shit about it being it's time to go. Hello, this was not a mutual decision between the network and Joss. Sorry if we love a tv show and dont want it to go. If we feel the need to protest an unjust decision, so be it. Just stop complaining about how you don't see the point. You don't have to. And you don't have to spread any more of your negativity here.

  • March 27, 2004, 8:22 p.m. CST

    So how many people are expected to be there?

    by mrfan

    Just wondering. I mean it is a weekday and many people cannot get away. How many from this board are going? And will there be refreshments? And if anyone gets any extras from the WB as before I would be interested in getting a picture. Thank you.

  • March 27, 2004, 11:16 p.m. CST

    David B

    by Purgatori

    better not be all wishful for an end (ala SMG) let's not forget the oscar worthy VALENTINE or the wonder that is the new Crow film that is SOOO good that it's going direct to video. Yeah way to pursue those other opportunities Dave... Better to be like James Marsters and try to hold on to a good thing while you can.

  • March 28, 2004, 12:54 a.m. CST

    Aword on Ratings

    by TheRiggerx

    I am by no means an expert and this is just my opinion but...How can the TV ratings system possibly work? I don't have a box. Nobody I know has a box. Who is making decisions for me about what will be availible to watch on TV? Who gets to decide? The cookie cutter famlies who watch nothing but the reality dribble the networks are shoving down our throats? Am I bitter...Yes. Why? Because all the shows I enjoy get cancelled while a show about Donald Trump and his sidekick hairpiece thrives. I never miss an episode of Angel. I never missed an episode of Firefly. The Tick...Ok bad example but that show could have gotten better. But the point is it doesn't matter what I watch because I don't matter. It seems to me that the geeks who frequent this site and all the entertainment sites on the web (myself included) have no voice in the TV ratings system. Which is odd because as a whole we watch more TV, play more video games, go to see more movies and generally have more disposable imcome than anybody else. At least that is the case in my experience. So by all means protest. Don't listen to people who say it's not a worthy cause. You care about it right? Well then it's worthy. Let them save the world if they want to.

  • March 28, 2004, 1:33 a.m. CST

    Save Cop Rock!

    by TheTARDIS

  • March 28, 2004, 1:43 a.m. CST

    I thought the reason for the cancellation...

    by Monkey Butler

    Was because of increased costs to make the show. If that's the case, then protests won't really do jack, and the best that could be hoped for from a new season would be episodes with half the scope of the current season's. But apart from that, if people have the time and inclination to go to a rally, then what the hell gives anyone the right to tell them to stop? If people don't make their opinions known, then stupid decisions will continue to be made

  • March 28, 2004, 3:13 a.m. CST


    by Weasel

    I guess we're just going to have to get used to Angel finally getting "staked" by the WB. Can anyone tell me exactly why this series is being cancelled if its ratings are still respectable? Just curious; I keep hearing conflicting reports. One thing I really wish the WB would have done is a spin-off with Mercedes McNab's "Harmony" character. Yeah, that's right. Kind of like the old "Bewitched" T.V. series in which some regular, Darren-esque guy falls in love with Wolfram and Hart's blonde receptionist, marries her in good faith and only finds out he's in a "mixed" marriage when she tearfully confesses on their wedding night. They move to suburban Pasadena and have a couple of kids. Chaos ensues. Can you imagine Darren Dude coming home one day and seeing his better half about to drain some Girl Scout (a twelve-year old who only wanted to sell her some cookies!) of her platelets? "HARM!" Oh, yeah.

  • March 28, 2004, 5:11 a.m. CST


    by mrfan

    Some guy emailed me about my post on here. It was all about the ratings of Angel. I have no idea why I received an email. I made some comment, very brief, about the ratings. And yes, ratings do count in some way towards a show moving on to that big cancellation in the sky. I believe it was only a small part of why Angel will not go on. Other factors are the higher cost of making the show, license fees, and hell, maybe even DBs new contract for next season. If they continued on they would definitely have to pay him more money than what he is making. Would love a sixth season. A full one. Not this half a season crap or not enough money where we will see them have to use shawdow puppets every hour for budget reasons. And I sure as hell do not want to see any more cut backs on this terrific show. I wish the protesters well. I hope you really have a great turnout. Wish you well. But you better make sure there are plenty of people around. Or it will be the laughing stock on the internet.

  • March 28, 2004, 1:47 p.m. CST

    My proposal for a new Buffyverse show:

    by Barry Egan

    I'm probably alone on this, but I'd like to see a show about the watchers. Remeber the three man strike team that came after Faith in Buffy Season 4/Angel Season1? I would like to see a show about those guys set in the 1960s. Kind of like "The Avengers" wih monsters.

  • March 28, 2004, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Angel ratings...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    I think with The WB it's more about the demographics for Angel. It skews toward an older audience, and the network's ad sales for its dramas are based on going for a younger audience. The series is also 5 seasons old, and, thus, everything has to be renegotiated for another season. Money is an issue here. As for Boreanaz, look at his from his perspective: He's played Angel for 8 full seasons (he went right from Buffy to his own spinoff). From where he's coming from, it's essentially like playing the same character for one show that runs 8 seasons. He might just want to move on -- he owes you nothing, to be quite frank.

  • March 28, 2004, 4:14 p.m. CST


    by Tall_Boy

    or TEAM KNIGHT RIDER or LEXX: THE SERIES or any other crap that people get behind.

  • March 28, 2004, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Speaking of ratings, how the hell do they figure out ratings for

    by Big Bad Clone

    The nieslen ratings is bullshit. I know Tivo takes down all info on it's customers (along with the satellite companies). Look, they can take down my info and spy on me as long as we can finally see that not that many people give a fuck about the bachelor but plenty watch good shows on a regular basis.

  • March 30, 2004, 5:32 p.m. CST

    I think he told Fred what to

    by jim

    research and which books to read. I forget. I didn't care much for that episode. By the by, anyone know when the remaining episodes of Angel will begin to air?

  • March 31, 2004, 6:24 p.m. CST


    by buffan12

    He may not want to return but its not as if he can act particularly well. It's hard enough to try see what mood Angel is in and that's to a trained eye. Fans know what to expect. Put Boreanaz into other projects and he'd sink. We shouldn't have to suffer the pain of another 'Valentine' again. Besides, it's too soon after Buffy ended to do this. I'm not sure how much more I can take. All I know is i'm not ready to go back to an empty, shit-filled reality just yet. Angel is needed. SaveAngel. Save Dave's career!!