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Michael Marker illuminates a bit of John August's Screenplay on CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY... mmmm mmmm good!
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Hey folks, Harry here with Mikey Marker and his unveiling of some scrumdiddliumptious details from John August's script for the upcoming Tim Burton telling of Roald Dahl's CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY! There are spoilers for those that love them, and this is the warning for those that wish to avoid them. Having said that, this sounds absolutely wonderful. Nothing to worry those that adore Dahl's original book. Without further pomp, here we go...
Dear All,
I’m no inside source, just a lucky kid with a parent in the business. So with half-permission from Dad, a deep love for RoaldDahl, and a reinforced respect for John August, I’m writing my thoughts on his adaptation of Dahl’s Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
First let me say that there will be spoilers: The script is made of them. Too many details are twisted in with the plot and themes like the red in a candy cane—enriching and vital.
And before I go any further, let me assure any Dahl, Depp, Burton, Elfman, or Rouselott fans that you will be satisfied. I predict that this movie will be their ultimate playground.
Now my head is racing with all the twists that caught me up and had me reading back in the text or re-reading screenplay in disbelief. So, as a tribute to my poor writing skills, I’ll make it all into a list. Now to the spoiling:
• As with P.J. Hogan’s adaptation of Peter Pan, August keeps a firm focus on Dahl’s text and subtexts, not only highlighting key pieces of the story and characters, but reiterating Dahl’s vision with a brash inventiveness. August made the choice early on in the re-construction of this story to reset the locale from a Britishy, Oliver Twistian, Sixties game-show world into an amalgam of Hershey, PA and Detroit/Pittsburgh/Chicago/Suburbia. With Walgreen’s-esquestores selling Wonka Bars, and Charlie’s mom working overtime at the tennis shoe factory, August may be in critical danger of arrogantly over-Americanizing for shock value. I’m sure Mr. Dahl would be proud.
• Wonka’s Entrance: The classic cane fall of course. Until an old man in the crowd kills the fun. “Imposter” he screams. Wonka snaps the security guards on the oldster. The man fights off the guards monstrously to reach Wonka’spodium. Wonka raises his cane to strike the man, and the crowd gasps. The man produces a remote and freezesWonka with a click. The man rips off his face and VIOLA! it was Wonka all along. He rolls the putty face into a ball and bites off a piece like jerky. He clicks the remote and robot-Wonka bows. Another click has the security guards tossing tins of “Wonka’s Edible Face Putty” to the crowd.
• A small touch: The doors in the Bucket house and the Chocolate Factory never close entirely. In the house it is a human habit, in the factory it is a mechanical hiss halting all doors at 99% closure.
• August constantly reinforces Wonka as a sleight-of-hand artist: He’s constantly twisting flavor-towels (in honorarium to Douglas Adams, it seems) into all-purpose ropes, or snapping experimental candies between fingers and hands.
• Though modest with most visual descriptions, August has every sentence read like candy: “Show your hands and arms child, I want no secrets in this house”, “A distant dog barks, a different dog, dark, seductive”.
• The latter quote is from the boat ride, which deserves a writeup of its own: August’s sketch rings with elements ofFantasyLand (Mr. Toad’s especially), Luhrman, Burton, Phantom Toll Booth and Stepford Wives. I’ll spoil it no more.
• The Candy is innovative like a punky Steve Jobs: Edible FingerPaint/OmniPlaster (wild mountain frazzleberryflavored), tacto-flavor calligraphy marker-massager, vita-mints, Licorice Roads, Scented Blankets, 2-mile Radius’-worth of bio-flavor-nanomachines that make any tangible surface sanitary for the lick/bite/smell, Ice Cream Creatures, TactotasticInvisipaint (think Roger Rabbit plus Stargate), Chocolate Stationary (for love letters), etc. Of course, the Everlasting Gobstoppers, Chocolate Canals, Gumdrop Trees, and all the other classics play active roles in the story as well.
• August built Wonka as a sketch for Depp’s masterpiece: The dialogue leaves minutes of room for color and improv; meanwhile, the pulse of Wonka is that of a simple renaissance man: hyper-productive, flawed to insanity, loving enough to overpower his demons. Though a rarity, August takes descriptive liberty in drawing up Wonka’s office, “Racks of bottomless suits and T-shirts with hand-drawn slogans such as ‘Socialize’ or ‘Stationary’ line the walls and ceiling. A picture rests on a cherrywood desk. It shows Wonka looking pensive sitting alone on the captain’s seat of the ‘Chocolate Mountain Tootsie Log Ride’. Next to the picture is a half-monocle.”
• The Oompa Loompas: Wonka explains their history in a tone as eerie as Thomas Jefferson’s letter to Tom Hart, a fellow slave owner, in 1806, “The negro has been transplanted from the Deadly Jungle of Tibal Conflict and the demons of Disease and Famine, but has done so against his will. Some would say this is the white man’s benevolence. I say it is the way of things.” (Sorry about the tangent, I’m a Revolutionary nut.) The Oompa Loompa’sthemselves act with a gentleman’s loyalty to servitude ala Anthony Hopkins in The Remains of the Day. Occasionaly, though, August hints at a Gosford Park-ian bitter cynicism fueling their elusive work ethic. And while boldyemphasizing certain realities of the Oompa Loompas, August only describes them physically as “unintimidating”, leaving skin color, body size, and clothing to the visual team. And without those damn cute purple faces, I wasn’t sure I wouldn’t find an Oompa-sized knife in Grampa Joe’s back by page 125.
• Slugworth wears an eyepatch on the left and a diamond-plated glass eye on the right. ‘nuff said.
• The Kids: Veruca Salt echoes of Cruella Deville, Mike Teavee is a sickening charicature of Eastwood/Wayne/Culkin, Augustus Gloop is accidentally hilarious with every mispronounced word, Violete Beauregarde is every girl-next-door-turned-moviestar. Charlie is perfect.
• The Ultimate Spoiler, The Last Moment of the screenplay: August ends with a brilliant little play on words. And although it reads a bit preachy, I think it should leave the audience warm and reassured:
Highlight to read:
The elevator climbs up a hundred stories per second. Charlie’s chin lifts his eyes to
the stained-glass ceiling of the elevator, and the shaft above it. The impact with the roof is seconds away.
CHARLIE
I’ve never seen this tower before…
WONKA
Well you must never look up.
They all fly away.
-A loving work of fiction by Michael Marker-
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So you've appropriated Roald Dahl for America now, have you?
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Mar 21, 2004 4:53:48 PM CST
And still leaving open for that Glass Elevator sequel, I see
by terry_1978
That's the movie I'm waiting for...that great glass elevator book scared the hell out of me when I read it for the first time.
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the cast has to be just right - they're kids! a few harry potter-esque actors would RUIN it.
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was the one that came up with the roll entrance; that was all him. BIG FISH was shit but since this isnt dealing with real people maybe Burton can do better. Oh well, i do not care.
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..I'm really excited about this movie, but for some reason, reading this has made me less so. Don't know what it is, but something just doesn't seem right. I'm still looking forward to it though, as both Depp and Burton rarely let me down (especially when working together). As far as the glass elevator book... I remember reading it as a kid, but I remember hating it as well. It just didn't seem ANYTHING like the original... just a few of the same characters in space. But hell who knows, if I was to read it again now I might think differntly (I was just a kid after all).
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this sounds altogether good, by the sound of the colabo it should be a hit, and then FINALLY we will see a glass elevator flick...
im glad the umpa's wont be the same f'd up freaks from the og.
im glad depp is knee deep in this beyach
and mostly glad to see elfman on the score.
i was shocked to not find fanboy luv blasted on these boards by now.
shocking... mace out -
Gene Wilder ruled.
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Mar 21, 2004 5:52:54 PM CST
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of the dreams
by lance rock
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Whatever. Somewhere Marilyn Manson is pissed off at not getting his vision of this made. It might be cool if Gene Wilder could be Grandpa Joe.
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Mar 21, 2004 6:08:13 PM CST
Wow, Gene Wilder as Grandpa Joe, I've never thought of that befo
by industrykiller
It would never happen because I'm sure they want to distance themselves as mucha s possible from the original and Wilders presence would be a constant reminder. Also Wilder probably wouldn't even do it as he comes from the Bill Murray extremely picky about what he does school of things. But Wilder would be perfect, absolutely perfect. He's got the charming soothing presence that Grandpa Joe needs but also a huge amount of the mischief that makes him the perfect (for lack of a better word) foil to Wonka. Hey, I can dream can't I?
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WTF? Slugworth played NO part in the original book, except that it was established that he was a rival candy-maker. THAT'S IT! Aarg!!!! I thought this was supposed to be MORE like the book than the musical! If it's gonna end up being exactly the same except with no musical numbers and in modern times, then that's just shit.
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could happen, considering tim burton used charlton heston in the planet of the apes remake.
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Harry Dean Stanton - Grandpa Joe Hope Davis - Charlie's mother Jean Reno or Alex Winter (Yes, as in Bill)- Slugworth Rich Kronfeld - Veruca's father Craig Bierko - Violet's father As a fan of Rich and Craig, I think they could really play either father of the two girls.
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tim burton has never taken a movie, rehashed it and gothed it up, and had it turn out bad, right? ahhahaa hahahahah god this makes me sick to my stomach.
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really....really...really bad. i sure hope that willy wonka farts all the time, that the kids drink from a river of chocolate that hilariously turns out to be poop, and that there is at least one violent diahrrea scene. and lots of really fake, cartoony CGI. that'll complete the picture.
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depp will kick so much ass in this movie. will anyone even compare to his perfromance, except that of Dave Chappelle as Uncle Charlie. "I'm rick james, bitch"
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I'll admit that I never read the book. I have only seen the movie with Gene Wilder. I don't know about the rest of you but the part when Wilder is singing some little song on the boat when it entered that tunnel and gets all crazy will be hard to top. I remember thinking to myself that guy is cray. I think Depp is cool but I'm not so sure about him playing Wonka. Overall, I'm not so psyched about it. It's all about Hellboy and Batman Begins Bee-atch!
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Mar 21, 2004 9:35:27 PM CST
Depp will be good, but John Glover would have been perfect. htt
by declan_swartz
Some good picks, grillskill. It would be great to see Rich Kronfeld get some more exposure. http://www.standuprising.com/kronfeld.html
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Mar 21, 2004 10:04:27 PM CST
I am excited for it, I KNOW this is not a common thought..
by emilyqfan
I LIKED Gene W and the movie but honestly he always came across to me as CREEPY when I was young and when I got older and watched...
even creepier with pedephile like undertones that always bothered me when I watched it -
Pretty sure Wonka was supposed to be kind of creepy - not necessarily paedophillic, but certainly with darker undertones than yer average kiddies' movie character. I mean, this is Roald Dahl we're talking about, not Enid Blyton, y'know?
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The Director of Planet of the Apes with a script by the Guy who wrote Charlies Angels Full Throttle... WHAT CAN POSSIBLY GO WRONG??!?!??!?!.......................... I adored Wilders Maddness in the movie, Johnny Depp as Wonka is a good start.... oh and before anyone else does it... "I think they should do BAD ASS Willy Wonka with hulk hogan as Wonka "The snozberries taste like snozberries... Brother" (*sigh*) *BAMF*
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And I'm not touching this or reading anymore about it. I love these books too much, and yes The Great Glass Elevator is a fantastic book. So is James and the Giant Peach, and that movie was (as beautiful as the animation was) awful. Harry Potter's whole success is based on the brutal yet playful style of Dahl, he never made the world a gentle lie, but helped the young reader deal with death and corruption with comedy. There are only a few writers whose work are comparable and I understand why we feel the need to make movies of these things, but this hits deeper and more primitively then any superhero film. I just can't agonize over every little detail on this. I definitely love Gene Wilder, but the books are far more precious to me. I'll wait till its done ignoring everything up till then and then see if its worthwhile. Still, I would love to see a Vermicious Kanid.......from a distance of course.
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Mar 21, 2004 11:47:44 PM CST
"First let me say that there will be spoilers: The script is ma
by user id indeed!
Just... wow.
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Nothing really to add. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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I don't think he's that picky these days. Still it wouldn't happen. I just thought it would be cool if it did. Then again his prescence would just be a horrible reminder that i've already seen this done so well it's got a cult following that has nothing to do with the book that inspired it so what i'm watching is really just "Redundancy", a new fragrance brought to you by the uber-couple Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston. Honestly, i've stopped caring about remakes and reimaginings and just flat out bastardizing of the source material. I've gotten up in arms before over several different things, but now, I just can't find it in me. I think "Brian Grazer presents The Ki-zat in the Shi-zat" just killed the last of the fight in me. No matter how much we piss and moan these things will still be made. Good or bad(usually BAD). Hell if Freddie Prinze Jr. and Sarah Michelle Gellar decided to star in a remake of "Casablanca" to try and revitalize their careers I'd probably just sit on the sidelines and shake my head. At least Johnny Depp and Burton have a better chance than others at making it work.
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Mar 22, 2004 12:04:15 AM CST
Wait a second...the guy who wrote "Charlie's Angels: Full Thrott
by 007-11
Oh shit, this IS going to suck!
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Mar 22, 2004 12:15:31 AM CST
Lost interest when Marilyn Manson didn't get the Wonka role...
by burnhollywood
THE CANDY MAN CAN!!! THE CANDY MAN CAN 'CAUSE HE MIXES IT WITH SCUM AND SETS THE WORLD ON FIIIIRE!!!
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Mar 22, 2004 12:28:30 AM CST
As long as we're quoting OUATIM: "Are you a Mexi-CAN or a Mexi-
by frankdrebin
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Mar 22, 2004 1:01:57 AM CST
Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka. Think about it. THINK ABOUT IT!!!!
by theginger twit
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It's an English story written by an Englishman set in England. Surely this would have been opportunity for Depp to use his indescribably cheesy cockney accent once more.
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Mar 22, 2004 1:07:50 AM CST
How bout instead of remaking the chocholate factory, they go and
by theginger twit
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I just bought the original today.......2 for 20 bucks at Best Buy....finally had the widescreen in stock. ANywho, I dont think in a million years they will match the original, as its a classic many people have come to love, but there are areas that can be made better. I for one think they whole tour should be longer. I want more charachter developent with the brats, not just CHarlie. Seeing them win the ticket and seeing their demise isnt a whole lot. I wouldnt mind seeing a song less version, but Depp will be good, but he'll never match Wilder. He is what I slightly envisioned when I read the book. Weird.-----------One thing they better have in the new one which I thought was disturbing in the book, when GRandpa/Willy/Charlie are flying out the ceiling they look over and see the other 4 kids all walking out of the factory. Anyone else remember??? Only they are all messed up. Augustus is skinny, Violet is back but blue, The one guy is like 8 feet tall due to being stretched and Veruca is like burned or soemthing. I always wanted to see that in the movie, as that was a cool scene in the book. Seeing the outcome of being a brat. ALso, as someone else said........would there be a seqeul.....finally? I remember reading the book, but nothing comes to mind. I remember all the old farts in the bed, but thats all.
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Mar 22, 2004 2:04:34 AM CST
So you've appropriated Roald Dahl for America now, have you?
by lion fire
Yep. Just like we did with Mel Gibson, Mike Myers, Michael J. Fox, Everyone in Monty Python, The Young Ones, James Bond, etc. etc. etc. You can have the Spice Girls though. *cringe*
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the one from hollywood bitchslap.
where did it go?
it was an interesting read.
sorry you all had to miss it -
The movie isn't out and you are already giving it bad reviews. Wankers.
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Mar 22, 2004 3:19:33 AM CST
"A loving work of fiction by Michael Marker" -- So this whole th
by smarkjobber
...because what he describes sounds awful, most of all Wonka's entrance. Damn that's excessive -- a robot Wonka? Strangle me already. Scented blankets? Calligraphy Massager? I hope this shit is made up by the reviewer and not the actual script. And big deal about the spoiler. What's so spoiler-y about it?
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So did they ever end up casting the Piscopo army? From the depths of darkest Africa, they come. At first like a cool breeze, then stronger, then hot. Then BAAM! Piscopo, Piscopo, Piscopo. This wild army will be perfect slaves in a candy factory. Then I can give the world the gift of no Joe Piscopo on T.V.
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I must discuss this matter with my girlfriend tonight.....
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Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker, Brother!
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because what I read here just sounds awful.
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I'm a massive Roal Dahl Fan, like HUGE, and I'm very excited about this remake. Americanising was inevitable, and Depps English accent is horrible anyway, so best keep it like that.
I'm disgusted how many of you love up "willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory" (didn't even have the right title). I for ever have hated it, even since I was much younger when I watched it. The bits it changed from the book were sickening (the whole ending, and the whole thing about Charlie fucking up and basically being as bad as all the others by not listening to Wonka).
And I know I'm gonna get shit for this, but I don't vcare, as this is my first talkback, and possibly my last. GENE WILDER AS WONKA WAS SHIT! Even Roald Dahl thought so, and I agreed. He was too straight, too boring. He wasn't as sprining, nutty and vibrant enough. In the book Wonka wasn't supposed to be creepy and serious, he was just very very sarcastic, witty, bouncy and crazy, and thats why I love the book. roald Dahl wanted Sellers or Spike Milligan to be Wonka, but the production company overrulled him as they wanted a bigger actor to make them money (think about it, Spike Milligan as Wonka - would have been incredible!)
This re-make is going in the right direction so far. "wild mountain frazzleberryflavored" - straight outa Dahl vocabulary. Burton is the ONLY director I would let loose on a Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie (IT'S NOT A REMAKE!), and I am confident in him. He is for me to films, what Dahl was to Books. He loves them, knows how to communicate to children and adults in just the right way, and they both have the same crazy imagination.
this film is going to be awesome, and if you all hate it, I won't care, because it looks like for me personally I will have a Dahl film I can love, so I will be happy.
PS - Glass Elevator movie! all i can say is - WOW! -
The 'classic cane fall' would be a homage to Gene, it was his idea and it nearly did not happen (see dvd documentary). I'm sure it would be a pretty tacky thing for Depp to copy. It wasn't in the book and it makes me doubt this whole supposed script.
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Mar 22, 2004 7:11:01 AM CST
IF IT ISN'T SET IN THE NORTH OF ENGLAND YOU CAN FORGET THIS BEIN
by workshed
CHARLIE IS AS ENGLISH AS OLIVER TWIST. FUCKING HOLLYWOOD ARSEBANDITS. GIVE THE PROJECT TO NICK PARK AND HE'LL SHOW BURTON (WHO, INCIDENTALLY, HAS NOT MADE A 'GOOD MOVIE' IN NEAARLY TWENTY YEARS) HOW TO DELIVER THE GOODS. THIS IS SHEEEEEEET.
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http://www.roalddahlclub.com/index3.htm Listen to the interviews. They're magical
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'TWAS A GREAT SET-PIECE WAS IT NOT..?
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Mar 22, 2004 8:21:38 AM CST
So am I the only one here who doesn't rate the Gene Wilder movie
by heleno
Having read the book many times before I ever saw Willy Wonka, I always thought he was terrible. Depp and Burton should do better, although elements of this script review are a little troublesome. Apart from the predictable unease at the unnecessary Americanisation, I'm just not sure about this... Incidentally, does this film qualify as a remake? Surely it's a different film of the same book, which isn't quite the same thing.
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Forgive me, I just don't see it. What the hell are you talking about?
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I haven't read the novel, although it was read to my class at school back in the 70s. I must say that I like Gene Wilder. I just love that glint in his eye. Whether the original film was the perfect Dahl movie, I couldn't say, but the film somehow does it for me. Maybe it's just the end, when Charlie realises that he was being tested all along and Wonka tells him that he will inherit the factory. It brings a tear to my eye everytime.
I'd just make the Glass Elevator with Wilder.
As far as Burton goes, I think he's an incredibly over-rated director, very weak on story-telling ability, too much style over content. I wish he'd leave remakes alone. After Planet Of The Apes, he should be ashamed of himself. Why doesn't he and every other director try and find a fresh book to adapt. These remakes are such a sad reflection on the state of Hollywood at the moment.
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You want brilliant casting???? How 'bout Michael Jackson??? He can bring Charlie into is weird little world of midgets and farm animals and then, when the lights are dim and the strawberry wine is flowing...introduce Charlie to the joys of the "Chocolate Factory"....NOW BEFORE ALL YOU FREAKS GET YOU PANTIES ALL UP IN A BUNCH...REMEMBER THAT IF I DIDN'T SAY IT, SOME OTHER SICKO PERVERT WOULD HAVE...AND THEN YOU'D ALL BE ALL UP IN IT TRYING TO EXTEND YOUR RELIGOUS RIGHTOUSNESS ON SOME POOR INNOCENT TALKBACKER WHO HAD NO IDEA OF THE LANDMINE THEY WERE STEPPING ON.....Consider my sick mind a public service.....And thus, sun's up and it's time to drink! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!
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I too grew up with the books foremost, but I see the Wonka movie as what it is, a pleasant Hollywood mistranslation, and let's face it, this is when Hollywood was regularly translating books into movies that had no similarity. This was the Hollywood that stole two days from the Condor! It was cool to see what they got right, but a disappointment that the changed so much and never ventured to a sequel. They never really understood the work or the sarcasm. Two problems. First, don't let your love of Dahl's brilliance disrespect one of that decades greatest comedic talents. You can't get anywhere disrespecting Mr. Wilder. He is the Danny K of the seventies and eighties. I didn't think Nicholson was my version of the Joker, I thought that it should have been Tim Curry playing up a homicidal effeminacy, but I can't take anything away from Jack just because he played a different take. Gene played a fun and mysterious character, it wasn't The Wonka I knew, but I still think that Wonka would be a challenge for any actor. He has to seem very old at times, and then very, very young. Comical and bizarre and then confrontational and sly. Willy Wonka is probably the most complicated and difficult character ever created in a children's book. Depp will probably be lucky to come out of it with mild success as this is a tough assignment. This character is Robin Goodfellow (Puck), wrapped up in Dr. Frankenfuter, shaken with a slice of Ray Bolger (The Scarecrow from OZ) and poured into Buckaroo Bonzai's cowboy boots. Remember "The Wizard of OZ" is an atrocious representation of the Books, its all wrong, down to the Ruby Slippers (which are really Silver). So much is left out and so much is better in the books. Still, I don't think that they'll be making a new version anytime soon (I shouldn't say that...nom they will). Second problem, I just don't see Mr. Burton as the end all and be all. Pee Wee aside, I never have to hear another Danny Elfman Soundtrack and I think he tends to put so much of his own singular 80's Goth voice into everything he does, that sometimes you lose the original voice of the work. I could just as well see, Terry Gilliam or Jean-Pierre Jeunet or Brad Bird or Darren Aronofsky or Peter Jackson (based on his Heavenly Creatures work, not the, well you know) or George Miller or James Frawley or Michel Gondry or dozens of new comers, Tim Burton does not have a monopoly on bizarre Edward Gorey-ish children's fables. Otherwise, I'm with you, "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" rules, the movie doesn't compare. Isn't that always the truth? I would still love to see "The Chocolate War", my favorite book in middle school, done right. It won't happen...I think. Love to see the Glass Elevator as a movie. "What doe you think of the wall to wall carpeting? Mr. Walter Wall?"
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Hey Everyone Look At My Cock!!!
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I'm glad everybody is as pumped up about all this as I am.
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if gene wilder would make silver streak how can one state that hes extremely picky about the films that he'd make.
unless that happened in editing..
still stinkin up the theaters that one..
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Mar 22, 2004 9:55:09 PM CST
Sure, he wrote Charlie's Angels...but he also wrote Big Fish, an
by minderbinder
And that Mexican/Mexican't thing was on the George Lopez sitcom before it was in OAATIM. Sounds like there will be changes from the book, but they actually sound pretty cool. Hope it's good and hope they are able to do the sequel as well.
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Mar 22, 2004 11:15:24 PM CST
whoa what the hell does "A loving work of fiction by Michael Mar
by revsam
is this just some kind of sick JOKE
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According to the screenwriter, this is not true.
http://www.johnaugust.com/index.html -
I thought that even though Gene Wilder did come off as a little creepy, he also was just as bonkers as Wonka from the book. I just hope they mean they'll stay true to the book. LOTR cut out a whole chapter of the Old Forest and gave all Tom Bombadil's lines to Treebeard. THAT was disappointing. Remember, there was no cane fall and Veruca Salt died by squirrels because she was "a bad nut." AND Charlie never drank the fizzy lifting drinks! AND slugworth had no real role in the book except he sent spies to the factory until Wonka closed it.
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