March 19, 2004, 4:41 a.m. CST
Man this film is getting fatter and fatter. Sounds brill. Just hope it's better than his last one.
March 19, 2004, 4:42 a.m. CST
This could possibly be the most badass A-list cast ever assembled. Fuck Ocean's Eleven!
March 19, 2004, 4:45 a.m. CST
This movie needs to be here now!
March 19, 2004, 4:46 a.m. CST
does sound pretty fucking amazing
March 19, 2004, 4:51 a.m. CST
This story is getting so good,I keep thinking Harry's just setting us up for April 1st...that is if Amazon will let him.Enough with the corporate sponsership,my man.Just stick to banners,at least we can make fun of those. Back on subject,I need a copy of this script,Stat.
March 19, 2004, 5:39 a.m. CST
What film has Robert Rodriguez done that would get all these names wanting to work with him? Sure, I dig his films but I don't think any of them so far have been earth-shatteringly good. I can't help thinking the cache Tarrantino brings is whats pulling in the talent.
March 19, 2004, 5:41 a.m. CST
by Grammaton Cleric
Does Sin City even have this many characters? Depp for Kevin, Buscemi for Yellow Bastard, Walken for Crazy Walken Character...doesn't sound like we have a Manute yet. What the hell does RR have up his sleeve? That test footage must be rocking some fucking socks off for all these folks to be signing up.
March 19, 2004, 5:57 a.m. CST
by KID AB
I want to see her in this as ninja junkie chick with one eye!!!!
March 19, 2004, 5:58 a.m. CST
Honestly, QT doinga segment and RR reusing most of the big hitters from OUTIM is uber cool.
March 19, 2004, 6:02 a.m. CST
Anyway, this baby looks good
March 19, 2004, 6:19 a.m. CST
March 19, 2004, 6:35 a.m. CST
quote"That test footage must be rocking some fucking socks off for all these folks to be signing up." Hell yeah, we need to se that... and some credit to the boy Hartnett, perhaps?!
March 19, 2004, 6:58 a.m. CST
This is really good news for lovers of comics, because finally, there is a project that is approaching the medium properly. Rob Rodriguez is a truly great film-maker.
March 19, 2004, 7:03 a.m. CST
I'm not familiar with the series.
March 19, 2004, 7:26 a.m. CST
I hope this turns out well, I loved the Sin City books but the last time I was excited just by the concept of a Rodriguez film was Once Upon A Time in Mexico and that was one of the biggest pieces of shits Ive ever seen. I do give him eternal props for acknowledging Miller in the process and finally giving him him Hollywood due.
March 19, 2004, 7:49 a.m. CST
...to anyone who has read the books. Rourke as Marv is LAUGHABLE.
March 19, 2004, 7:52 a.m. CST
If these RUMOURS are true then cool.
March 19, 2004, 8:20 a.m. CST
Still not as cool at Batman, but very cool. My concern with both of these movies though, is that there are too many stars. Whenever there are this many big names, the movies usually suck. Hopefully these two can break that cycle.
March 19, 2004, 8:22 a.m. CST
This may be one of the coolest films of ALL TIME! I'm sooo psyched about this! Rodriguez, Miller, and Tarantino directing! HOLY SHIT! I WANT PICS!!!
March 19, 2004, 8:37 a.m. CST
by The Dracut Stomp
Haven't read the Sin City stuff in years. They're boxed-up in storage somewhere. But this looks pretty damn good. I am worried about the possibility of an anthology movie, but I don't think it'll happen. I can see QT doing a string throughout the movie. And people tend to forget that Mickey Rourke is a good actor. "Diner," "Barfly," etc. Sure, he's a little weird and has had a horrible facelift, but he's good. I'll give him - and everyone else in the movie - the benefit of the doubt. If this comes to fruition, color me first in line.
March 19, 2004, 8:55 a.m. CST
Aw, crap. He better not be Hartigan. That could ruin the whole thing for me. I knew Depp would be Dwight. Britney Murphy could be Nancy(yum).I hope Stalone isn't Marv.
March 19, 2004, 8:55 a.m. CST
This time, the answer is "Yes".
March 19, 2004, 9:11 a.m. CST
by Ra Ra Rasputin
This be good news to me Rourke derserves a break a head shave and some decent make up FX, throw in some bad ass method acting away we go. As far as his performance in Once Upon Mexico goes he was one of the more sympathetic characters showing a side to rourke i prefer to his usual hammy performances plus Rodriquez managed to let him pull it off. As well rodriquez again letting the ego that is miller co Direct, shows an open mindedness more could adopt in Hollywood. Get in Rodriquez
March 19, 2004, 9:13 a.m. CST
In response to the idea that you should buy one sin city book, I must strongly encourage purchasing more than one; however, I can provide a good sequence for reading them. If at all possible you should shell out the "twenty bucks" to get the hardbounds from amazon used shops... and beyond that attempt to score the new trade paperbacks. Get "Sin City," "Sin City: A Dame to Kill For," "Sin City: The Big Fat Kill," and "Sin City: That Yellow Bastard." My personal favorite is A Dame to Kill For because of the metamorphosis of Dwight. Dwight begins as the only really disciplined, yet reserved/introverted pessimistic protagonist, and after the set-up with Ava turns scarred and pragmatic. Dwight's latter career working as the ensign of Old Town's hookers allows him to evolve as a reluctant hero and develops his Spartan role (includes panels groundworking Miller's Spartan comics later). Dwight is a really important character because he survives and returns throughout the books. Other stories in the environment deal more with the environment itself... thus establishing it as an epic (if you agree with me that an epic tells the story of a place). I would posit that Dwight is analogous to Odysseus from the Odyssey... he searches to go back home, and is met with temptation and the assistance of Athena-like female advisors along the way.
March 19, 2004, 9:17 a.m. CST
forgive me for being less than enthused. But, hey, if it's good enough for Frank...
March 19, 2004, 9:18 a.m. CST
by The Founder
Leo is an overhyped, I do not want him in this movie. What, he going to take pay cut? Doubtful. The rest of the cast sounds cool, but with all these known stars, well actually it's only like 3 or 4 with Depp, Douglas, Willis, and Hartnett, but the rest are supporting actors, and unknown. Wood, despite his film history(which is pretty good) will never be a leading man, he's just that type of actor who can have a string of hits, but Hollywood will never embrace him on a level like Brad Pitt(overrated) or Tom Cruise. Walken, Rourke and Del Torro are not A-list , they are good and talented supporting actors, who has proven their talent time over time. Maria Bello has talent, but she is semi unknown, and the rest of the line up aren't what I would call a wellspring of talent, they have some decent acting skills, but it doesn't matter who fill their roles, they are a dime a dozen in Hollywood.
March 19, 2004, 9:19 a.m. CST
Damn! If this all works out and is done right, this rock extremely hardcore. Just imagine if it is in high contrast black and white!!!!! Come on RR YOU CAN DO IT!
March 19, 2004, 11:25 a.m. CST
And personally I'm glad I was right. Yeah, Perlman could have pulled it off too, but I think many people will be surprised at just how good Rourke will turn out to be in this role. I hope so anyway. *********************************************************************** As far as Willis as Hartigan, well, he can play the required attitude, I'll give him that, so I'll try and keep open minded about it, but honestly it should have been Clint, and I personally think Willis is just too you and not grizzled looking enough. As I said I'm willing to give him a shot, but I'm far from convinced right now. Personally if they couldn't get Clint I think they should have gone after Harvey Keitel for the part. ********************************************************************** The rest of the casting, and rumoured casting so far is interesting, and while I'm not sold on any of the actor/role combos, I'm not put off by any so far either, so the potential is still high. But if Hartnett is indeed to play Dwight, as rumoured, then I wonder what part DiCaprio is up for. I love all of Miller's Sin City work, and I just can't think of him for a single role offhand. Personally I also would have cast Jennifer Tilly as Shellie, but that's just me. ************************************************************************ As for potential, as far as we know still uncast, roles, here's my faves: John Cusack as Kevin, who would be so perfect for that role. Depp could do it, no doubt, but Cusack is who I always saw in my minds eye. Willem Dafoe as Junior Roarke/Yellow Bastard (think an even more twisted Max Schrek). Gina Gershon as Gail (the fishnet queen of the hookers), Denise Crosby as Lucille (Marv's parole officer) and Rebecca Romaijn-Stamos as Delia/Blue Eyes. I have no idea who Miho or Nancy should be offhand though. ******************************************************************** As for Rodriguez himself, in all honesty he's the one that worries me the most with this project actually. Don't get me wrong, I like that he's a fan and he gets major props for bringing Frank Miller in and apparently trying to follow the style and look of the original books, but I just worry if he's not too hyper-kinetic for this type of film, if his directorial style isn't just too fast and frantic and a little sloppy for a film like this, least judging by past films anyways, and whether he can actually do something different than that. I mean I'd love to see him knock it out of the park with this one, but until I see some footage I'm going to be a little nervous as to just how well (or not) his directorial style will mesh with the style of the books themselves, which as I've mentioned before are amongst my all time favourite books ever in the comics medum.
March 19, 2004, 11:25 a.m. CST
MY movie's got Bruce Willis, and Mickey Rourke, and Leo DiCaprio, and Brittany Murphy, and Benicio Del Toro, and Jennifer Love-Hewitt, and Paul Reubens, and Marlon Brando, and Katherine Hepburn, and Tom Cruise, and Vincent Schiavelli, and Jenna Jameson, and John Wayne, and that one guy from Outkast, and that little girl from the Pepsi commercials, and Morgan Fairchild, and Tarantino's gonna direct some of it, and Kurosawa's gonna direct some of it, and I'm gonna shoot it on location on the moon! sk
March 19, 2004, 11:33 a.m. CST
...or does there now seem to be more male actors linked to this thing than there are major roles, even counting the three books and few short stories that this thing is supposed to cover, and dart in between and cross over? Seems...strange. But it's going to be an interesting ride just to see how this all stacks up when the smoke clears. ************************************************************************** Also I'm not sure if bringing in Tarantino is a good idea either, much as I love the guys films, as more than anything else this film should have one consistent look all the way through it, one that's based solely on Miller's own aesthetic from the books. This shouldn't be a mesh of different styles, ala Kill Bill, all the intelocking and criss crossing story points should have a consistency so that they each meld into each other perfectly and without any stylistic clashes or jerk you out of the moment jump cuts. The last thing this needs is to turn into Four Rooms mk. 2...
March 19, 2004, 2:20 p.m. CST
A- or B-list love boat.
March 19, 2004, 2:23 p.m. CST
Rodriguez is probably the most overrated fan-boy directors around and the only reason he gets work is because he's Mr. "under budget" ... and the only reason he's always under budget is because he's too stupid to hire a real DP, editor and FX house. He's a Mexi-can't . Re-watch Once Upon a Time in Mexico ... what a complete and utter shit -fest!
March 19, 2004, 2:36 p.m. CST
Talk about the most over-hyped, under-talented, overblown egos in the comic industry. He's on my permanent "DO NOT BUY EVEN IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT" list, since his back handed slap at the SF Bay area in DK2 issue 3...what, you didn't read it?? That's O.K. evidently neither did many people. He basically painted EVERYONE in SF as unsympathetic with the people of NY after 9/11. Frank Miller is an arrogant blowhard and if he stopped writing tomorrow the world of comics would be better. BTW there is no way ANY studio is going to shell out the dinero for that many A-list stars. Just with half the names listed you've already topped the 100 million mark.
March 19, 2004, 2:57 p.m. CST
DiCaprio...Hartnett...Depp... wtf?! why?! bunch of overrated untalented hosers. i hope this is just rumor. this project is going to shit fast...i'm not crying! I kill ninjas, goddammit! sniff. -[ikn]
March 19, 2004, 3:29 p.m. CST
i'm am completely hyped that this film is finally being made, and it looks like it could be made 'right', but all this talk of 'big name' actors is disheartening. hollywood is a fucking popularity contest. frankly, i'm usually unimpressed. in a previous talk back i explained how important, in my opinion, it is for the actor fitting the role. Hartnett cannot be Dwight; he doesn't have the acting range or is he the right age. Willis shouldn't be Hartigan, Dwight maybe. Again, he's not old enough for the role, meant for Clint [Keitel would be acceptable]. Anyway, too many known actors, supposed 'A-list' at that, will detract from the real star of the film, Miller's story. -[ikn]
March 19, 2004, 3:54 p.m. CST
March 19, 2004, 4:10 p.m. CST
by Johnny Smith
...is an overrated hack. Keep him far, far away from any kind of work ever again.
March 19, 2004, 4:37 p.m. CST
March 19, 2004, 6:38 p.m. CST
Anyone remember the "ALL-STAR" line up for a gleaming little pile of crap known as Four Rooms? Throw enough shit at the walls and something is bound to stick, is that the deal? Oh yeah and let's not forget Miller's shit-fest Robocop 2. I'm still cleaning that one off my shoes. And his Dark Knight was a take-the-money-and-run travesty. Oh boy, can't wait for this one. Yeah.
March 19, 2004, 6:56 p.m. CST
by joe brady
Yeah, he hasn't always picked the most prestigious movies, but he's been getting good work lately. His face though... I remember seeing him in The Pledge and not believing it was him. He should kneecap his plastic surgeon.
March 19, 2004, 7:56 p.m. CST
by Jervis Tetch
Harry told us "Ocean's Eleven" would star Clooney, Pitt, Roberts, Mark Wahlberg, Luke and Owen Wilson, Bruce Willis, and Michael Douglas!
March 19, 2004, 9:51 p.m. CST
No reason why you shouldn't, but I don't, I can tell you that much! What's up with that dick saying Rodriguez shouldn't "carry" Frank Miller?! If anything, Miller'll be carrying Rodriguez, considering he proved on Once upon a time that he's forgotten how to write! Rodriguez - World's biggest c*nt scrape.
March 19, 2004, 9:58 p.m. CST
by The Dude Abides
As far as Miller's writing talent goes, he's been in a bit of a slump recently, especiallly with the Dark Knight Strikes Back, but his Sin City stories are pretty solid.
March 19, 2004, 10:48 p.m. CST
indeed. shut the fuck up. -[ikn]
March 20, 2004, 3:10 a.m. CST
Not the sequel (which sucked) but the first movie. A series of short animated stories that are adult oriented. If it is, BRING IT ON!!! And I hope it gets an "R" rating.
March 20, 2004, 4:33 a.m. CST
I don't wanna get into the Special Olympics with hysterical fans like "ikn", but Frank Miller is no filmmaker. Rodriguez has drive and energy as a director, you can see it on screen, even if you don't enjoy his subject matter. Miller sometimes has a hard time writing one decent issue of a comic. (Not to mention drawing, they didn't call him "Frank Filler" for nothing) It's just two different skill sets. I'd rather see a brilliant Robert Rodriguez adaptation of Miller's "Sin City." I don't want to see Robert and Quentin giving Miller "How To Direct" lessons. Again, it's just different skill sets, two different mediums.
March 20, 2004, 11:08 a.m. CST
I'll take the 'hysterical' comment as a compliment, i guess. Yeah, i'm a Frank Miller fan. Yes, maybe not all of his individual works are astounding, but his work as a whole is pretty solid. And his art, well either you like it or you don't. It's an acquired taste i guess. My first Miller work was DKR, i wasn't particularly impressed by his 'scribbing' but the story owned. From there i kept on reading his work and searching out his old stuff. He has an art style all his own, and i grew to like it. To be honest i'm not a regular comic reader. Just a few select titles or runs here and there. Can he direct? I have no idea. I thought Co-Dir. was just an honorary title and that he's there to guide Rodriguez. I'm just passionate about film; and i'm fed up with American cinema right now. I'm tired of formulaic bullshit and talentless drivel being heaped upon the masses; and the dumb fucks they are, can't get enough of it. I just don't want to see that happen to something that i'm interested in. -[ikn]
March 20, 2004, 3:20 p.m. CST
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March 20, 2004, 11:44 p.m. CST
There are things that are simply NOT done, EVER on any set. Rodriguez should call around & get the lowdown on downlow with that set before he intends to "share" directing with Mr. Miller on a set....
March 21, 2004, 1:33 a.m. CST
First, I must admit that I have o read few issues of Sin City; this isn't because I hate it, but because after Dk2 ( I had spent years previously away from comics and was getting back in at the time)I was frankly Bullsh!t at Frank. Second, all my closest friends swear by it, and are stoked that the cast is coming together as so...especially Rourke. Me-I always saw BRIAN THOMPSON as Marv, I mean, covered in band aids and a filthy raincoat, the man IS the illustration brought to life. I am a long time fan of Mickey Rourke, and for those who think of him as a joke, there was a time when he was the biggest thing out there. Rent Angel Heart, Diner, A Prayer For The Dying, The Pope of Greenwich Village...the man has made other cinematic contributions that Wild Orchid and 9/half weeks. He is currently this really built, beaten up looking guy who still inspires some ammount of sympathy, which is what I take away from the IMAGE of Marv. He can, and I think will, do this part justice. This isn't Four Rooms, folks. I think of it more like Seven, De Palma's The Untouchables and Pulp Fiction blended. Yes, It could still suck...but don't sell it short just yet because of Rourke.
March 21, 2004, 4:03 a.m. CST
Look I am all for an adaptation of Sin City and have been waiting for one for years. I have read and reread every one of those awesome books (with a healthy dose of Andrew Vachss novels to accompany them) and so I was initially very excited that Rodriguez was going to do it. But as the cast list came out my heart sank into my chest. Do not try to sell me Mickey Rourke as Marv!!?? I mean maybe in his "Year of the Dragon" phase (and shape!) but he is not the bad ass he once was...I mean didnt we last see him holding a chihuahua in "Once Upon a Time..."? Marv is one bad ass MOFO and you need a bad ass MOFO to play him. Also the people who populate Frank Miller's creations are not pretty boys like Dicaprio and Elijah (that over-emoter) and Hartnett. And the women are these curvy, tough, seasoned women who have lived lives of abuse and neglect only to use that anger to tun them into bad asses who guard their own part of the city. NOT KATE BOSWORTH OR BRITTANY MURPHY OR JAIME KING!!???!! Come on, if you are gonna bring this to life then BRING IT TO LIFE! Start with hard ass voluptious women and move to guys who were on "OZ"...plenty of bad asses on that show. I love these books and want to see something good done with them and NOT something commercial for the yuppie sweater crowd by one of Tarantino's disciples. I suppose the latest with Johnny Depp and Walken and all might be cool...but damn man read those books and see the art and tell me why any of the cast members this side of Depp and Walken belong in this film. My 2 cents!
March 21, 2004, 9:37 a.m. CST
Let's just hope the script doesn't mess things up like it did on Once Upon a Time in New Mexico.
March 21, 2004, 12:39 p.m. CST
I was watchin last night, and he has lost 10000 lbs and is only talking out of the side of his mouth and he sounds like a munchkin. He's NOT well.
March 21, 2004, 1:02 p.m. CST
March 21, 2004, 1:04 p.m. CST
DK3 did suck but that doesn't make Frank Miller a sucky writer. Batman Year One was good, Dark Knight Returns was good, and his run on Daredevil was good. So he half assed it on one story, cut the guy some slack.
March 21, 2004, 3:07 p.m. CST
Y'know ... someone brought up Lee Majors as a joke and I was thinking that it would be kind of cool if Lee Majors had a little career resurrection by RR or Quentin. He's become sort of a joke lately (what with that commercial where they made fun of him as a low-rent celebrity for commercial hire) and I can easily see him fitting into Sin City. Joke or not, he probably would rock.
March 21, 2004, 6:34 p.m. CST
I'd love to see Chevy Chase in a dramatic role as a movie producer with a cocaine habit.
March 21, 2004, 8:47 p.m. CST
by travis brickle*
id have to say that most of the actors listed (willis excluded) dont strike me as the tough, street-tested actors that sin city is trying to portray. thats like scoresese trying to cast leo as one of the leads in infernal affairs. and mickey rourke..... have you seen the guy lately? uugghhh
March 21, 2004, 8:59 p.m. CST
You RR haters need to lay off of him! Sure you call him a hack but I'm sure that you will still see this and every other RR flick. Anyway, like others have posted, I thnk RR is cool director but his writing is pretty lame. So I'm glad someone else will be helping him out on this. Besides, on the Desperado DVD w/ audio commentary Rodriguez said that he doesn't see his characters as flesh and blood. Thats why Cheech Marin's character is called short bartender. This flick sounds awesome but all this co-director and special guest director sounds kinda weird. Those are my 2-cents.
March 23, 2004, 4:05 a.m. CST
by Jon E Cin
March 23, 2004, 9:56 a.m. CST
mickey rourke is a piece of shit useless talentless hack...did anybody see his hungover fat ass in Once Upon a Time in Mexico??? he looked like a tubby old drag queen, and he's gonna be MARV???? SIN CITY's ultimate bad mutha fuckka???? i hardly think so...oh well, with QT, Rodriguez and Frank Miller on board, it should still kick major ass
March 24, 2004, 10:02 a.m. CST
someone explain to me why rodriuez had to quit whatever it was and what that's all about, if it's somewhere in the depths of the variety site i cant get it out!?
March 25, 2004, 2:16 a.m. CST
Because behind all the mask of ugly prostetics, you got to have a charming rogue.
April 12, 2004, 1:47 a.m. CST
I think the dangerous precident is the fact that what Miller will be doing on the film does not fit the guild's rules of what a director does. His role is probably more like concept artist and writer. Rodriguez feels that Miller's contribution is so important that he wants to share director's credit. The DGA's problem is that if he lets someone who hasn't worked on the film as a director get credit it would open the door for writers, producers, managers and assorted Hollywood "hangers on" start writing co-director's credit into contracts. Kind of like how producer's credit is often doled out to people who didn't do much, if any, real work on a film.