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Alan Moore distances himself from Keanu's CONSTANTINE! Uh Oh...

Hey folks, Harry here... Many fans were wary of CONSTANTINE the second they called it CONSTANTINE instead of HELLBLAZER. Then when they decided to cast the blonde brit character as Keanu Reeves and make the distinctly British series American... well, that pissed off many, but Alan Moore was supportive... until now, this sounds like it might get really ugly. Here ya go...

Hey Harry, Bristlehound here with my third latest and greatest report. This one is such a stunner I can't believe it, but you should because everyone is trying to cover it up.

After reviewing the script and casting of HELLBLAZER, Comic Kingpin Alan Moore has done the unthinkable. He's washed his hand of the entire debacle. That's right- he's instructed DC to NOT credit him as the creator of the character. And putting his money where his mouth is, he has instructed that the royalties that he was splitting with his co-creators goes EXCLUSIVELY to the artists, Veitch and Bissette.

Often we hear about an artist upset that his creation has been butchered but this is the first I can recall where the creator asked that both name and money be rejected. Moore is apparently so upset at the desecration done to Constantine by Producer Lauren Shuler Donner that he is stating that he will never support a film project based on his work again. DC Toady Paul Levitz is running around trying to get Moore to change his position, but Levitz is the one who had 30,000 copies of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen #5 pulped. The bad PR this move could create in the geek community is of grave concern to Warners and DC.

I say if they couldn't get Sting they should have got Ewan. With Neo, I ain't even renting. And if Alan Moore has washed his hands, we all should.

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  • March 3, 2004, 11:20 a.m. CST

    fuck this movie

    by youareacrybaby

    and first, i think, slow typer

  • March 3, 2004, 11:25 a.m. CST

    "The bad PR this move could create in the geek community is of g

    by dastickboy

    I don't the geek community will ever be a cause of concern to Warners or DC. Geek responses are always overblown so as not to be taken seriously.

  • March 3, 2004, 11:25 a.m. CST

    3 CHEERS FOR MR. MOORE!

    by Klam Bake

    Hollywood must be baffled as to why he still doesn't want the money. It's something they'll never understand.

  • March 3, 2004, 11:28 a.m. CST

    first

    by Veraxus

    I wouldn''t fault Keanu as an actor so much as the script. If Moore is washing his hands of the project its because the script is a steaming pile of shit. Yup, it all depends on the script. Hollywood needs to get more comic artists working on their movies and less script writers... the comic artists can not only hammer out the script and story but the storyboards as well ;-) I'll never forget how Keanu fucked up Bram Stokers Dracula... but its the clueless scriptwriters being put on these projects that are ruining comic-based films.

  • March 3, 2004, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Poor Alan Moore

    by KenKRK

    This man just can't seem to catch a break. Well, I don't know what his position was on From Hell, but clearly, Moore's not too happy with how his characters are portrayed on film. I think part of it is the fact that filmmakers refuse to accent the fact that these characters AREN'T AMERICAN!! If not for From Hell being based on a true story, they've have had it take place in Colonial Williamsburg, Virginia! League was butchered to begin with, but fans were understadably furious by the addition of Tom Sawyer, who proved to be a rather useless character, and only there because filmmakers didn't want Americans left out of the Victorian era fun! It's a shame that Moore's films are developing a track record of betraying the source material for no viable reason other than to appease American audiences, with often disasterous results. Maybe if the film were being done by the BBC.

  • March 3, 2004, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Poor Alan Moore

    by KenKRK

    This man just can't seem to catch a break. Well, I don't know what his position was on From Hell, but clearly, Moore's not too happy with how his characters are portrayed on film. I think part of it is the fact that filmmakers refuse to accent the fact that these characters AREN'T AMERICAN!! If not for From Hell being based on a true story, they've have had it take place in Colonial Williamsburg, Virginia! League was butchered to begin with, but fans were understadably furious by the addition of Tom Sawyer, who proved to be a rather useless character, and only there because filmmakers didn't want Americans left out of the Victorian era fun! It's a shame that Moore's films are developing a track record of betraying the source material for no viable reason other than to appease American audiences, with often disasterous results. Maybe if the film were being done by the BBC.

  • March 3, 2004, 11:45 a.m. CST

    WB messed up another supers film?

    by ThingsThatTimDog

    Naaaawwwwwwwwww...

  • March 3, 2004, 11:48 a.m. CST

    WB!!! WAKE UP!!!

    by rockgolf

    Consider the Marvel record of film adaptations: X-Men, spiderman, Daredevil, Hulk, Blade, Punisher. All did terrific box office and most got good reviews. Now look at DC: Swamp Thing, Batman & Robin, Catwoman, LXG, and now Hellblazer. How can they get it SO wrong, SO often? I actively hope they never attempt the long planned Watchmen adaptation, because I just can't see anyone less than Peter Jackson encompassing the scale of it.

  • March 3, 2004, 11:59 a.m. CST

    The fact that Keanu was cast should tell you everything you need

    by Manaqua

    Another hollywood color-by-numbers crank job. Where's the inspiration. Casting fucking Keanu. Jeeeezusss. Good for Alan Moore, but too bad. This is another one I think I'll skip, just like LXG. Not even a rental. M

  • March 3, 2004, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Ironic that this isn't one of Moore's stories

    by Cerebud

    Garth Ennis wrote this particular storyline, where Constantine gets cancer. I'm not surprised that Alan wants his name off. LOEG wasn't even recognizable from the Moore comic, and From Hell wasn't much better. I've heard that Alan Moore still hasn't seen LOEG, and isn't that interested since hearing that it sucks. It's like how people are bitching about Frank Miller and his shot at Hollywood. His Robocop 2 script was split into two movies, then butchered further from there. Now Miller's reputation as a writer has been tainted with that POS. Alan Moore is one of the greatest writers of our time, and his work SHOULD be treated with more respect.

  • March 3, 2004, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Who can blame him?

    by Nice Marmot

    He should have done the same w/ LXG. Does his hand washing of film adaptations mean no Watchmen? Or is that considered in the works already? I hope nobody goes to see Constantine.

  • March 3, 2004, 1:19 p.m. CST

    wake up people

    by payton 34

    Yeah Alan is so unhappy with the way his projects have been handled that he keeps allowing it to happen. Wow he turned down the cash from the studio. I can see him now, crying at home sitting on his huge pile of cash.

  • March 3, 2004, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Uh Oh?

    by Wheel99

    Keanu as Constantine? Set in Los Angeles? Americanized? If you had to wait until now to say Uh Oh to say that this movie will be a piece of shit..... Oh well at least we can have a Hellblazer/Catwoman double pack dvd six months after these get released.

  • March 3, 2004, 5:17 p.m. CST

    You can watch some of Constantine director Francis Lawrence's mu

    by Declan_Swartz

  • March 3, 2004, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Didn't help Todd McFarlane...

    by Dlhstar

    Didn't Todd have a LOT of creative control in the making of Spawn, and it still was only a so-so film? Ok, it was a sub-par film with what could have been done with the project.

  • March 3, 2004, 6:15 p.m. CST

    This "news" sounds like A load of BS. First of all Garth Ennis w

    by jigga422

    If alan moore doesnt want his properties fucked around with, he should get of his rich akinny geek ass and do something about it rather than being a shut in. Its actually really easy to eash ur hands of something rather than actually do something to change the situation. Lazy fuck.

  • March 3, 2004, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Someone make the most jawdropping alan Moore film ever QUICK!

    by Archduke_Chocula

    ...gotta gain his trust back, damn hollywood

  • March 3, 2004, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Remember Alan Moore liked LXG!!!!

    by ohwillo

    He said it captured the comic book feel.

  • March 3, 2004, 7:53 p.m. CST

    No one knows shit II

    by Lost Skeleton

    Warner fucking sucks monkey tits! I mean, who in their right mind was looking forward to this. Catwoman is going to suck shit too! Well, at least we have "2" on 7/2/04!

  • March 3, 2004, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Not an ounce of truth to this...

    by Frank Black

    Alan Moore has asserted that he has never seen one of his stories in movie form and that he has no interest in ever watching one. I've read this in numerous articles. LOEG was the biggest piece of crap I have ever seen, so who can blame him.

  • March 3, 2004, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Alan Moore interview

    by Stan the Bat

    <http://www.theonionavclub.com/avclub3738/avfeature_3738.html> -This is a good read- Moore talks thoughtfully about, among other things, how he feels about having his books turned into films (a process, by the way, which we should all expect to be about as "respectful" as the process by which coyotes turn bunnies into coyote shit). For the edification of those too lazy to follow the link: "Apparently, someone asked Raymond Chandler once what he thought of Hollywood ruining all of his books. And he took them into his study and pointed up to the shelf where they all were, and he said, "Look, they're there. They're fine. They're okay." That's the attitude I have to take. The film hasn't ruined my book."

  • March 3, 2004, 8:08 p.m. CST

    I reckon...

    by Poobah

    Moore is only pissed with this film in particular because he actually created John Constantine. The changes and adulterations in From Hell and LXG were forgivable because none of the characters were his. Adding new fictional characters and plotlines to make LXG was in the spirit of "league of extraordinary gentleman", it was just poorly done in comparison. And the bare bones of From Hell are historical events; the film just pinched bits and bobs from Moore's equally fictional account. But with Constantine we have a character that Moore gave birth to himself (shudder), whose appearance, voice and history were his (co)creation. To have each of the elements that made Constantine Constantine stripped away, to have what was left scraped up and poured into the hollow shell of Keanu Reeves must be a shitter indeed.

  • March 3, 2004, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Stop talking about damn KRULL

    by George Newman

    Geez, I'm seeing it everywhere

  • March 3, 2004, 8:12 p.m. CST

    No Duh

    by whiteboyrage

    Alan Moore always divorces himself from interpretations of his work. I don't even think he went to the premiere of From Hell. It's not an uh-oh, it's just what the man does. He is a pure artist. Who saves his urine in erlenmeyer flasks.

  • March 3, 2004, 8:14 p.m. CST

    I doubt that Moore enjoyed LEAGUE

    by beamish13

    I hate how Moore won't attend conventions because of a couple of psycho fanboys.

  • March 3, 2004, 8:37 p.m. CST

    i was gonna respond

    by Renata

    but i didn't want to be lumped into the "geek community" so i'll refrain from expressing my disdain...except to say that it couldn't be worse than Keanu's last two outings. What were they called? Matrix something.

  • March 3, 2004, 8:49 p.m. CST

    CONSTANTINE & BILL & TED'S EXCELLENT ADVENTURE !!!

    by el zar

    I bet people are still going to watch it. To see how bad it is. First Catwoman. Now this. Hmmm... Marvel to the rescue !!!

  • March 3, 2004, 9:28 p.m. CST

    KRULL LIVES!

    by TomVee

    KRULL keeps popping up because someone is a huge fan or someone is is being sarcastic. The fact remains KRULL is what A PRINCESS OF MARS might have been. A low-budget flick with lots of imagination and sass. Even with a monster that looked like it might blow over in a good wind. And a hero who looked like he had already been blown over a few times. The princess, from FERRIS BUELLER, was hot.

  • March 3, 2004, 10:14 p.m. CST

    I knew this movie would suck when they casted Keanu..

    by TallScott

    With so many GREAT british actors WHY oh WHY did they cast cali vally boy Keanu..HE SUCKS! and the movie will too..sad very sad..DC needs to have more control with its films..The DC Moore thing has been a give and take..True DC has fucked moore a couple of times BUT they have never used his watchmen people even though they could and respected his wishes and there is not DC logo or imprint ANYWHERE on his Americas Best Comics..But I still think there is some love between Moore and DC even though he will never admit it. I think i could be very wrong though

  • March 3, 2004, 10:25 p.m. CST

    News on Marvel's Luke Cage movie,if you haven't already read it

    by Kungfumanchu

    March 03, 2004 Singleton to unleash Columbia's 'Cage' By Borys Kit John Singleton is in negotiations to develop and direct "Luke Cage" for Columbia Pictures. Neal Moritz and his Original Films are producing along with Marvel Studios' Avi Arad. "Cage" is about a former gang member who is framed for a crime he didn't commit. In prison, he volunteers for a medical experiment that goes awry, giving him superstrength and bulletproof skin. Using his newfound powers, Luke Cage escapes and becomes a hero for hire. Ben Ramsey wrote the script. The comic book, initially titled "Luke Cage, Hero for Hire," debuted in the 1970s and ran until the mid-1980s, with Cage becoming Marvel's first urban hero. Cage, who picked up the moniker Power Man, eventually teamed with a character called Iron Fist, a martial artist. Separately, Marvel is developing "Iron Fist" at Lions Gate Entertainment. Matt Tolmack and Andrea Giannetti are overseeing "Cage" for Columbia, while Tania Landau oversees for Original. The UTA-repped filmmaker, who is a lifelong comic fan, burst onto the scene with the critically acclaimed "Boyz N the Hood." He followed that up by directing "Poetic Justice," "Higher Learning," "Rosewood," "Shaft" and "Baby Boy." Last year, he directed the hit "2 Fast 2 Furious." "Cage" is the studio's third project with Marvel, a relationship that began with their successful collaboration on "Spider-Man" and continues with the upcoming sequel "Spider-Man 2." Columbia also has international rights to Marvel's upcoming "The Punisher."

  • March 3, 2004, 10:27 p.m. CST

    All this Keanu bashing reminds me of that one Animaniacs episode

    by Terry_1978

    Slappy Squirrel getting on a bus, which suddenly begins to careen out of control. Keanu pops out of nowhere and screams, "I'm looking for a bomb!" To which Slappy replies, "check your performance in Dracula." Classic stuff, man. I miss that show so much.

  • March 3, 2004, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Oh well

    by stvrick

    Oh well. I guess this puts the kibosh on a screen adaptation of Voice of the Fire.

  • March 3, 2004, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Alan Moore is a hack

    by Darksider

    What's he going to say? You're messing up the characters/stories I borrowed? Whatever.

  • March 3, 2004, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Alan Moore helped create JC in Swamp Thing, but he didn't write

    by Darksider

    I guess they don't get any credit though.

  • March 3, 2004, 11:19 p.m. CST

    What the fuck is hellblazer?

    by iamarayya

    Im gonna wait and see intead of turning up my nose to romour and speculation.

  • March 3, 2004, 11:35 p.m. CST

    Hellblazer is the name of the book John Constantine appears in.

    by Darksider

    It's about magic, demons, and a bloke named John Constantine who is a bastard but is still a good guy.

  • March 3, 2004, 11:44 p.m. CST

    by Shigeru

    LOL coyote shit....lol

  • March 3, 2004, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Let's wait until we see the film.

    by Lobanhaki

    Screen adaptation from another medium is, and always will be a compromise. Sometimes you can strike an amazing deal no one knew was possible, and sometimes it's what compromises are jokingly defined as: Solutions that please neither side. Then again the man may have a point. Personally, I'd wait. It may not be what Moore dreamed of, but that doesn't mean it won't be a good movie.

  • March 4, 2004, 12:16 a.m. CST

    This is horrible news for 'Constantine'

    by Ribbons

    I understand that, when pressed, Hollywood honchos will assert that, "y'know," Alan Moore isn't a professional movie critic or writer, so he may not "appreciate" changes that had to be made, but he seems like he's been fairly open-minded about adaptations of his, and that's putting it quite lightly, so to hear him renounce this work completely and go Alan Smithee on the credits and credit is disheartening. It's no small claim to be the movie adaptation that disillusioned Alan Moore with Hollywood and possibly ruined the opportunity to ever see "Watchmen" realized onscreen. I'm not going to dismiss the movie without having seen any footage, but "it's...different" may have just taken on a definitely negative connotation as far as this one is concerned. Damn you, Lauren Shuler Donner.

  • As far as I'm concerned, Constantine was a pretty cool SUPPORTING character from Mr. Moore's fantastic run on Swamp Thing. Somebody needs to give Todd "Greedy" Mcfar-LAME a million bucks for the rights to Miracleman and make the best goddamn superhero movie EVER! And then WB and "Stupidman" can go take a flying leap...

  • March 4, 2004, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Good.

    by Cash Bailey

    Moore is probably the only person on earth who would actually go through with something like this.

  • March 4, 2004, 3:58 a.m. CST

    TomVee

    by DocPazuzu

    Alas, in your understandable excitement over hearing the masterpiece Krull being mentioned in public once again, you've mixed up your filmic fantasy princesses. Mia Sara, of Ferris Bueller fame, was the princess in Legend whereas Lysette Anthony was the luminous royalty in aforementioned Krull. An easy enough mistake to make, since Krull is prone to dazzle the senses and cloud one's mind upon viewing. Speaking of Krull... gotta love those one shot(!) laser lances the slayers use -- exactly the type of "efficient" weaponry the conquerors of entire planets would use.

  • March 4, 2004, 3:58 a.m. CST

    Does this mean no Watchmen?

    by CellarDoor

    If so then WHOOOO! If not then...Shit. This is severe behaviour even for Moore.

  • March 4, 2004, 5:12 a.m. CST

    Wake Up - Keanu is Best Choice

    by Goodygirl

    This is going to be a film that people other than comic book nerds will be able to enjoy. There seems to be this mindless, mob rule, "Let's get Keanu" bandwaggon out there that people keep jumping on. How can anyone who has seen Somthing's Gotta Give, My Own Private Idaho, River's Edge, Matrix, Matrix Reloaded, The Gift, Devil's Advocate, The Last Time I committed Suicide, say that Keanu isn't good? He went from Ted to Donny Barksdale to Dr. Mercer -- come on -- that is definitely a wide range . Wake up people, the mindless bandwaggon is going in circles. Time to get off. Fortunately there are some intelligent critics out there who have given him the good reviews he deserves (you can read them on Rotten Tomatoes). I can't wait to see Constantine.

  • March 4, 2004, 7:10 a.m. CST

    HAHAHA

    by obiwayne

    That was too funny Goodygirl! You are a master at the sarcasm. I hope...

  • March 4, 2004, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Goodygirld, watching Keanu is like drinking water

    by CellarDoor

    It is only ever OK and if you could have something else you would. He might plop a few fangirl arses on seats but you really need to get past your nostalgic Bill & Ted fascination and realise Keanu Reeves, while pretty, is as close to objectively underwhelming as Hollywood is likey to get. Or so I thought until Orlando Bloom tore up the silver screen.

  • March 4, 2004, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Mr. Moore

    by dogband

    I dont understand, does Mr. Moore have a problem with the way his work is being told or pertrayed? I can't imagin he would have a problem with Mr.Reeves work.when i first read about this project I thought it would be intresting to see. and that Reeves would do well in this roll.why would this be wrong?

  • March 4, 2004, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Tim Roth should be Constantine

    by The Dude Abides

    I think he'd be perfect.

  • March 4, 2004, 9:34 a.m. CST

    AMERICANS READ THIS 'LESS IS MOORE'

    by Jezmarta

    Why is it every time we give you something decent you have to ruin it? If you aren't fiddling with the facts of war in films, you have

  • Speaking about Miracleman in a VERY recent interview: "....and if films came out, I mean, for my part, I'm currently very, very disenchanted with films, so I don't really want anymore films made of my stuff, but if there was a Miracleman or a Marvelman film, then I'd just not want my name attached to it and all of the money could go to the artists concerned or to the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund." Source: http://board.spawn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=014315;p=2#000037

  • March 4, 2004, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Typical

    by Larry Jay

    What do you expect from the worlds largest media company. DREK of course. TOO MANY SUITS IN THE MIX!! ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!!

  • March 4, 2004, 10:15 a.m. CST

    ...or maybe

    by MTXX

    ..Maybe Miracleman is another special case. Maybe he WOULD want money from a Watchmen movie, if it was made from the Hayter script. I think I heard he Moore some nice things about that script

  • March 4, 2004, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Whoops, wrong link

    by MTXX

    The link above was wrong - that was me discussing Neil Gaiman with the spawn-geeks on the Todd McFarlane board. Embarrasing! Almost as bad as if I'd accidentally posted porn or something! this link is correct: http://www.addblog.com/archives/2004_02_29_archive.html#10783484523965

  • March 4, 2004, noon CST

    HA! HA! HA!

    by riskebiz

    Paul Bettany should have been John Constantine. It should have been called Hellblazer. The SECOND Keanu was cast (hey, I like Keanu) it should have been a red flag that this was not going to be Alan Moore's Hellblazer. I don't know what this is other than there is a characer called Constantine and some occult stuff is in it.

  • March 4, 2004, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Someone at WB needs to pull a Roy Disney and move to have the ma

    by mortsleam

    What's that? Everyone working at WB is a money-grubbin whore and no one cares the slightest that apathy towards their creations leads their very name to be sullied? Damn.

  • March 4, 2004, 1:41 p.m. CST

    I'd be pissed too....

    by indybot73

    When I found out Keanu was playing John Constantine I fucking flipped, I don't blame Alan Moore for his decision at all, the worst thing about this, is, if he'll never support a film project based on his works again, does this mean we'll NEVER see a "Watchmen" film?

  • March 4, 2004, 1:46 p.m. CST

    constantine

    by Cory849

    Personally I don't know why it should have been called Hellblazer. Hellblazer is a stupid tacky title and I wish the comics were called Constantine. Hellblazer should be like, a ghost rider nemesis or something. But the Keanu thing and unwillingness to shoot it British is definitely a problem. But I understand the suits since Americans would NEVER buy anything with English lead characters set in England(James Bond, Harry Potter, Bridget Jones, About a Boy etc. etc. etc.) That having been said - I am SO INTRIGUED at Keanu playing this kind of character in this kind of story that I am totally going to see this (and I expect enjoy it) no matter what. I know...something wrong with me.

  • March 4, 2004, 2:10 p.m. CST

    watchmen

    by myshkin77

    D.C. comics owns watchmen so moore's support or opinion of the project is pretty irrelevant.

  • March 4, 2004, 2:20 p.m. CST

    PUHLEEEZE!

    by salamimansam

    Who give a ratz ass? Alan Moore is just ego-tripping. Of course the movie is going to have little to nothing to do with the (not particularly ground-breaking or amazing) comic. Reeves is in the role because his special friend (you figure out what that means) producer Lorenzo DiBonaventura gifted the role to him. You have producers who don't care about artistic integrity. "From Hell" was fine. Not great, but fine, just like the book. "LXG" was pummeled by the press but also was just okay. It wasn't a good moive but had good moments. It seems with all of these things, we (the fan community) suffer from a crisis of expectations. We want these films to rock our imagination and fill in the empty spots the comics have. But since every aspect of a movie gets filtered through committee meetings and is over-scrutizived by suits who think they know what audiences (whom suits categorically loathe and disrespect anyhow) will pay for. So, we go in wanting it to be a certain kind of film, and, since it never is just how we want it to be, it then, must therefore SUCK. Just go in without expectations. Watch the movie as IT IS, not how you want it to be. I know that is hard, and the matrix sequels are a prime example of how expectations can be easily dashed, but can we JUST RELAX??? Whether this movie sux or not remains to be seen. AS soon as they cas Reeves, we knew it was not going to be faithful to the Hellblazer series. SO RELAX ALREADY. A movie doens't need alan moore's stamp of approval (he DID leave his name on LXG for zoltans sake!!!). Never forget : EXPECTATIONS ONLY BRING DISSAPOINTMENT!

  • March 4, 2004, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Moore did NOT create Miracleman nor does McFarlane own the right

    by Darksider

    Neil Gaiman is in the process of cleaning up who owns the rights to Miracleman so the the books can be reprinted and possibly new stories made.

  • March 4, 2004, 2:32 p.m. CST

    ...and another thing

    by salamimansam

    Since when did we become such puritans? really, so what if constantine takes place in la. so what!? is it automatically better if it takes place in london? who cares!? if the film isn't book-perfect, who cares? i don't see people having cows over the fact that essential aspects of the LOTR books were left out of the film for creative reasons. it's not like 'constantine' is trying to be a small thriller where they can get away with being true to the source. they are trying to make a mega-blockbuster, and sorry, but Sting and Ewan (Sorry geeks, he is not the reason most people went to the star wars flicks) cannot open movies in the states yet. Reeves can and does open movies big. He's a bonafide movie star. Sting is a bona fide wanker. Remember Hansel's speech about Sting in Zoolander? That about sums sting up. as long as the film community at-large exhibits contempt for the audience and people who buy tickets, we will experience getting shafted. thank god nolan and raimi are movie freaks and also have respect for thier subject and audience.

  • March 4, 2004, 2:39 p.m. CST

    JEZMARTA...switch to decaff.

    by salamimansam

    Really? All Americans are shite because we have an illegally elected president who is currently getting a less than 40% approval rating from his people? Really? I mean, your observations are shrewd and erudite, to be sure. But really, must you demonize every American because of our fawked-up studio system and illegal gov't.? Please...remember who helped you in WW2. We are ALLIES. Don't go trashing every American for just a few Americans mistakes!

  • March 4, 2004, 2:42 p.m. CST

    my highhorse

    by salamimansam

    I will get off it now, but I just wanna add "

  • March 4, 2004, 2:43 p.m. CST

    WB fucking up yet another comic franchise.

    by Darksider

    I haven't seen the movie and it may be a fine stand alone film. But as a reader of Hellblazer it looks shit. LA instead of London, Keanu instead of a Brit, the cast I don't get either.

  • March 4, 2004, 2:56 p.m. CST

    What were they thinking.

    by DrX

    How do Halle Berry and Keanu Reeves feel that their looks compare with the original concepts? What does Keanu think when he looks at JC and sees that he is a blond brit bastard who skulks around the scummy streets of London, Liverpool and the putrid Council bits in between. True the comic can be anywhere but he is British. Equally when Halle took the part did she look at all the previous Catwomans and think "Nah..". Did she even look? My fave is the 50's cartoon of the past few years. What was she thinking when she put on that costume - that it was sooo much better then all the previous ones. Who the fuck was the costume designer and why did they do that? What was there reasoning. One must wonder what the actors were thinking. They either dont do any research or are easily talked into stupid descisions. Either way they are weak or cant be arsed. Anyone who does not love and respect the source material is essentially chewing it up for profit and should not be given the rights in the first place. I mean whats the point of taking something with such strong visual identity and changing it? Why not just think up your own characters to go with your new storylines. Catwoman could be Cheeta(er) and Keanu could be ... er I dunno - who cares anyway. Essentially this is what you get when bean counters and focus groups rule the world. Remember all that shit about superman having no cape and not flying a few years ago? Cap America? - good but lets get rid of the shield and give him new colours. Jim Steranko? Lets do something better. Perhaps a little more respect for the artists is in order. Also I loved someones rant about us brits giving you blah and you yanks giving us blah. For me the best is that we gave you the chance for a revolution and the idea of democracy - you gave us George Bush, Enron, Fuck Kyoto the list goes on....

  • March 4, 2004, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Hey movie nerds - don't freakout without all of the facts

    by zangster

    Before you freak out about what Moore did or didn't say, or take to heart what some other movie nerd posted as an unfounded rumor, why don't you check out what Neal Gaiman has to say: http://www.neilgaiman.com/journal/journal.asp As Gaiman says: Which is really interesting, except for it not being true. Oh, it's true that Alan's rejected the money for CONSTANTINE and assigned it to his cocreators, but he's now done that for all films of his and things he's done that might one day be filmed. This was because he was deeply hurt and offended and irritated by being accused in the Larry Cohen lawsuit of having written League of Extraordinary Gentlemen as some kind of studio shill, and because Alan never does anything by halves. Up until the lawsuit his position was that he didn't care about the films people made from his work, but was happy to cash the cheques; after, he decided that he didn't even want to cash the cheques. His share of Constantine was redistributed among his co-creators, John Totleben, Steve Bissette and Rick Veitch and to Jamie Delano and John Ridgway. As far as I know, from having spoken to him, Alan's view on Constantine itself is the same as his view on From Hell and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, which is that he'll probably rent the DVD one day, you never know, hell might freeze over, -- and that the important work is the comic -- the main difference being here that the film is, from what I understand, mostly based on the Garth Ennis and Jamie Delano issues of the Hellblazer comic. (And, for whatever remains of the record, Alan hasn't seen anything of Constantine -- no scripts, no nothing. Nor has he had any contact with DC on it except for asking Karen Berger to redistribute the money and the credit.) I tend to feel that the filmmakers started with two strikes against them, simply by casting Keanu Reeves instead of, say, Jude Law, but everything I've heard since has been encouraging, so while I'll be sitting in the cinema with my arms folded and an "okay, convince me" attitude, I'll at least be going to see it.

  • March 4, 2004, 3:47 p.m. CST

    YOU SUCK COCK FOR A LIVING BEEEATCH!

    by tequilaworm

    I eat fries with ketchup and brush my teeth. A tooth brush with a little tooth paste does wonders for your breath that probably smells like ass. FUCK OFF!...CHEERS EVERYBODY ELSE!

  • March 4, 2004, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Okay, if augmented adaptations are wrong, explain HULK?

    by Dlhstar

    I mean, it didn't follow 100% the original layout of the character, but folks still went on and on about how it was a masterpiece. And what about those POS films like those 2 X-Men movies, and the first 2 Superman movies, and that horrible hunk of crap known as Batman. Yeah, I hate it when a comic is raped and destroyed by a movie that changes things.

  • "Oh, it's true that Alan's rejected the money for CONSTANTINE and assigned it to his cocreators, but he's now done that for all films of his and things he's done that might one day be filmed," Gaiman states in his online journal. "As far as I know, from having spoken to him, Alan's view on CONSTANTINE itself is the same as his view on FROM HELL and LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN, which is that he'll probably rent the DVD one day, you never know, hell might freeze over, -- and that the important work is the comic -- the main difference being here that the film is, from what I understand, mostly based on the Garth Ennis and Jamie Delano issues of the HELLBLAZER comic." I think Neil knows Alan Moore better than you do.

  • March 4, 2004, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Good to know that Harry's still getting reliable information

    by The Dude Abides

    Psyche!

  • March 4, 2004, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Apologies

    by Jezmarta

    Heh guys well, perhaps I went overboard but I didn't expect to get done for it (heh administrators a little less pumped heh? freedom of speech and all that). I spoke to a couple of guys about my comments, but look this needs to be looked at. As for the 'grammer god', mate have a look at the facts, step out of your world and have a look. We wouldn't get moody with each other if we didn't care about the end product, and obviously we all do.... Duckman rants, I rant.. tis a fact of life, don't get offended .. actually I have three guys trying to send me a virus.. Look bottom line is thus... Batman is given a new genesis... and Hellblazer is an important movie it works because it is set in England... (ahem) Harry Potter worked as well... Jesh the Cohen Brother's films work well because they are set in the States, and they are great movies.. ah i aint going to kiss ya butts but I want results from films not just quick dollar results... we all care about movies and how they might entice others into their hold... don't let the Hollywood Producers spoil the magic.

  • March 4, 2004, 8:41 p.m. CST

    zangster

    by Ribbons

    Hey big man, you're the one who visits neilgaiman.com. I fucking hate when people on this site use the "n"-word, especially because it doesn't mean much of anything and is almost always ferociously hypocritical.

  • March 4, 2004, 8:51 p.m. CST

    You what?

    by Jezmarta

    Mate I have no idea what you are talking about? Look you know as well as I do that most of the time comics are ruined by Hollywood producers. Tim Burton was screwed by Warners who though they knew best (look at Schumacher) ok the script was weak... but the film was poor.. Give the generation City of God and let them decide what makes great cinema... give spielberg, Lucas,Coppola, Scorsese, Weir et al a budget of a million and let them film the streets they have lost touch.. all of them.. well Coppola doesn't have a choice thank god his daughter is working.. anyway the point is we care about films.. tis an important bottom line and don't forget it... Anyway live and let live ... I have said enough... but let's face it anyone who has sat in the sun and read Hellblazer knows the film is going to be pants.. I just wish we had a film community to do it ourselves..

  • March 4, 2004, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Can't be any worse than LXG, and to whoever said...

    by digdig

    "Hollywood needs to get more comic artists working on their movies and less script writers... " You're a fucking moron.

  • March 4, 2004, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Moore Better

    by MachinaMan

    Alan Moore is definitely doing the right thing; when you have to bail, you have to bail. The minute I heard that Keanu Reeves was being cast at John Constantine I knew this whole project was up shit's creek. By they way, wouldn't Tim Roth make a better John Constantine than Keanu Reeves? Tim Roth has got to be one of the most intense, powerful actors out there (the only flaw that I can find is that he is probably a bit short, but other than that he's perfect). And besides, he's a Brit, which is who John Constantine should be. His 'Englishness' is an essential part of the character, and to take that away from him is to just make him boring and kinda sucky. I don't blame Keanu, after all, the money was probably really good, but any true fan (and he definitely isn't) would have at least attempted to be as faithful to the comic as possible, which means that it takes place in England, not Los Angeles.

  • March 4, 2004, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Wy can't Hollywood adapt peoples works faithfully? Guillermo did

    by StoneMonkey

    Hell, Now Robert Rodriguez is doing it. Hollywood wake up.

  • March 4, 2004, 10:55 p.m. CST

    WHERE DID MOORE SAY HE LIKED LXG?

    by somnambulating

    Or even the abbreviation, LXG," for that matter? Moore has a well-known history of not even viewing films based on his works... yeah, From Hell included.

  • March 4, 2004, 11:04 p.m. CST

    What is a Toady?

    by jorson2

    I've never read the Hellblazer comic and, frankly, could care less, but the word Toady is in capital letters as if it were a title or first name, so I'm wondering, what is a toady anyway?

  • March 5, 2004, 3:13 a.m. CST

    Everybody stop sobbing about Watchmen, will ya?

    by St.Buggering

    Personally, I think the best possible scenario is that there never is a Watchmen movie. If you love Watchmen (and what sane comics fan doesn't?), go read it again. All of this pining for a movie version is something I don't understand. It's like you all think that no story is legitimate until it's been adapted for the screen. Watchmen is brilliant in its current form, and the odds that it would make the transition to another form while retaining that brilliance is quite staggeringly low. So just read it again. We don't need a movie. Let it go.

  • March 6, 2004, 3:56 a.m. CST

    BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT!

    by chien_sale

    It`s about time the old fool woke up!!! The movie producers have pillaged his comics and created these monstuosities of them. And everytime he says he don`t care because comics and movies are two different things. Fuck you producers. THIS WILL BE KEANU`S OWN GIGLI

  • March 6, 2004, 6:35 a.m. CST

    I like the sentiment, but check your facts.

    by PuzzleMonkey

    I hate the crap they get up to with almost any serious graphic novel and many of the comic adaptations, particularly Alan Moore's stuff, but at least check the facts. Posted by Neil Gaiman, a friend of Moore's, on his journal (http://www.neilgaiman.com/journal/journal.asp) on 4 March is the following [QUOTE] [snipped long quote from AICN] Which is really interesting, except for it not being true. Oh, it's true that Alan's rejected the money for CONSTANTINE and assigned it to his cocreators, but he's now done that for all films of his and things he's done that might one day be filmed. This was because he was deeply hurt and offended and irritated by being accused in the Larry Cohen lawsuit [with link] of having written League of Extraordinary Gentlemen as some kind of studio shill, and because Alan never does anything by halves. Up until the lawsuit his position was that he didn't care about the films people made from his work, but was happy to cash the cheques; after, he decided that he didn't even want to cash the cheques. His share of Constantine was redistributed among his co-creators, John Totleben, Steve Bissette and Rick Veitch and to Jamie Delano and John Ridgway. As far as I know, from having spoken to him, Alan's view on Constantine itself is the same as his view on From Hell and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, which is that he'll probably rent the DVD one day, you never know, hell might freeze over, -- and that the important work is the comic -- the main difference being here that the film is, from what I understand, mostly based on the Garth Ennis and Jamie Delano issues of the Hellblazer comic. (And, for whatever remains of the record, Alan hasn't seen anything of Constantine -- no scripts, no nothing. Nor has he had any contact with DC on it except for asking Karen Berger to redistribute the money and the credit.) [/QUOTE]

  • March 6, 2004, 7:32 a.m. CST

    once again

    by HIPPO

    Hollywood once again messes up big time.

  • March 6, 2004, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Worthy

    by Jezmarta

    Jesus finally someone who takes the piss 'lord of the length' ah man what can you do you have a bunch of cyber fucks ranting and working in the 7 eleven... You know you sometimes sit here and wonder what bods are writing here.. and then you think actually there might be some talent.. to all the american fish that sent me a virus.. jesh guys I used protection with your mothers lets alone go out into cybershite and and let you send me every virus known to man. The sad thing is (well it aint sad) but my grandfather is american so that make me quarter you (whatever that is) and you know what I don't care, but if you are a good writer and you are funny which most of the knob butt ends cheese merchants aint, but if you are then send some scripts we could all work on a decent script together.. If you have any ideas and are want to check out a site moolafoo.com send any ideas for uploads to jeremyr.allison@virgin.net..... and guys lads, bods, men and hopefully some women (but not you big hairy muthas, thick lenses fucks) give us a shout put some ideas together, get a hotmail name and ah nuts some of you are going be 'I want to eat my father and shag my sister' weirdo, but some might be ok... So to the honest bloke who is bored of corporate whoredom send ideas... it might change both our lives.. take care tis a big man world.

  • March 6, 2004, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Moolafoo.com

    by Jezmarta

    ps Preacher was worthy you gotta wonder whether they will release it

  • March 7, 2004, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Don't be shy, Jezmarta. Tell us how you really feel!

    by DragonHeart

    Your first post above was quite the rant, dude. Even came with a copyright notice. As if anyone might actually want to repeat any of that bilious ejecta. Many allegations, opinions, and speculations which I am not inclined to verify or dispute. I will ask this: What is the point of making a movie? To tell a story. Some storytellers do it well; some not so well. Many of the smaller films in which Keanu Reeves has performed have been perfectly wonderful examples of good storytelling. Most of these have been early in his career. Let us not be guilty of the same flaw as many casting directors: only thinking of an actors LATEST performance as the sole example of that actors talent. I'm sorry. I tried to rise above, to be the better person. I can't. Jezmarta, suck my dick.

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