Robert Rodriguez wades into Frank Miller's SIN CITY!!!

I don't particularily care for Josh Hartnett as an actor, but if he's anyone I bet he'll be Dwight. Although it would be nice to see him as the Cowboy that Miko, Gail and "The Twins" punish. Whoever they get for Marv had better be the biggest badass the silver screen has ever seen or I'll be very disappointed. I'm a little worried that they'll get an actor who's not tall enough to portray the 7 foot Marv, sort of like a reverse Wolverine in X-Men where Wolvie is actually supposed to be 5'3" or 5'6" ang Hugh Jackman is 6 footish.

Firsters like "Gifted In The Pants" (aka Image Guru) can suck the shit out of Al Rokers ass.

"Your in for a sin, Brother!"

commiting the horrible crime that is the mess named 'once upona time...' and being rewarded like this. All I can say is he better make those 'video' cameras dance and make a Spectacular movie.(this would be a great excuse to go with pure film shot in true scope format, not video cameras or Super35) Anything less than that and he will have wasted the best comic mood and storytelling there will ever be.

I think eather Arnie or a WWE wrestler would be a good Marv without prostectics..And this pains me to say because im no fan of eather! But in anycase it would take a BIG dude to play the lovable lug that can rip your head off if you piss him off.

I mean just look at the guy! Spitting image! He looks sorta docile in the pic I linked (couldn't find a better one) but jeez, look at that mug. Amazing likeness and a pretty good actor to boot! It's him, isn't it Harry? Come on, you can tell us. I'm right, right? Heh. :) But anyway, this is truly amazing news. I've been a big 'Sin City' fan for years now! Can't wait. Check ou J.E.'s mug: http://perso.club-internet.fr/vatzhol/img/alien020.jpg

Please Robert for the love of god dont film it in Color! You know you want to play with the the wonderful world of Black and White film..The comic was drawn in Black and White for a reason. I mean yea use Color where it was uses in the comics like if your gonna do "That yellow bastard" But PLEASE im begging you sir make the film in deep Black and White like the comics..Im sure you can make it look like no other black and white film ever if your true to the books..

Holy shit! Found an even better pic that's very 'Sin City'-esque....man, just look at that: it's Marv, smokin' a fag and scaring some dude. cast this guy! http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0206545/02VanceJake.jpg

This had better not be some early fucking April Fools Day bullshit. I about fell out of my chair. And Liam Neeson should play Marv. Think about it.

...sorta drained out, high contrast color (like Minority Report, Fincher flicks) that sorta is like B&W, but has a very unique texture, which might really give the film it's own look and feeling while still remaining true to the book. I wouldn't mind that. B&W has the tendency to look too 'classy', and 'Sin City' certainly ain't that! And makin' B&W look 'rough' usually makes it look cheap -- and you don't want that either. Just some thoughts....let's just see how this fucker turns out!

Ron Perlman Ron Perlman Ron Perlman Ron Perlman Ron Perlman (he is Hellboy you know) Lets hear it Again Ron Perlman for marv.

"Cinematography wise there's apparently going to be a unique tri-colour/high contrast method to filming" ....apparently, whatever that means.

It's too much! I won't believe it until I'm in the theater watching Mickey Rourke as Marv, filmed in black and white, with violence and sex exploding from every frame. I've talked to producers who tried to buy the rights from Miller for years but couldn't meet his price, and now a director I have so much respect for is actually going to do it. Making it perfect won't be easy, but it isn't impossible. PS: Johnny Quest: Season One DVD boxed set comes out May 11th. Life is really, really good right now.

When is Robert going to get around to doing Mike Allred's Madman? It just keeps getting pushed back.

Is he doing this film for the assholes at Dimension Films or some other studio?

Has to be.

I wonder if Rodriguez is gonna shoot this on video. I've never seen anything worth a damn shot on video. Always looks like a rehearsal to me. Always captures drama differently. Especially something like Sin City which depends on shadows and darkness. I didn't like the look of Once Upon a Time in Mexico. I felt that lack of shadows and darkness robbed the film of the much needed sexiness and mystery of the mariachi character.I really hope he shoots on film.

WTF? Why not. If you know some movie news, report it bitch! Why do I come here if your not giving me the news before it's released to the press?

There, I said it, and I stand by it. OUATIM sucked so much, despite having an absolutely amazing cast to work with, and it

If Josh Hartnett is in it at all, it's already not as cool. My guess is Antonio Banderas, Cheech Marin, Selma Hayek, and Danny Trejo....No, probably someone like Mickey Rourke as Harv. Anyway, as long as it's better than Once Upon A Time In Mexico. That was painful bad.

I will not rest until I've infiltrated every news story with some reference to "Coconut Pete."

personally i'm against this, but if you need Marv go with the man above. or Mickey, my guess is that Rodriguez got Rourke.

I think we can all pretty much agree on that. Why would anyone give such a wooden charisma lacking actor so much work?

Miller used to be an excellent writer, but he's seriously fallen from grace (any of you guys see the treatment he wrote of the now-Nolan Batman Project? Dark Knight 2? Robocop 2?). I think Rod. is a good choice. Hope he doesn't screw it up.

Genius but Brian Dennehy could bring a level of serious character to the role of Marv dare i mention this, Jack Reed as marv. The mind doth boggle at the prospect (if not then bring on FX3:The Wire Fu Murders).

Call me sick but even the thought of Josh getting decapitated is erotic... in a good way, you understand.

Can he drop the accent?

Mickey Rourke is the best choice for Marv. He is big, scary, and has the face and history for it. I don't think Hartnett will have a prominent role in the actual film because I just can't see him as any of the Sin City characters. Finally, I started re-reading the wonderful Mickey Spillane Mike Hammer detective novels this past week. Sin City could never have exsisted without these great books. Marv is so Mike Hammer in so many ways! Anyone who doubts the movie will look good on digital, (which is what Rodriguez vows to shoot on from now on,) check out Vidocq, or St. John's Wort, among others.

If Frank Miller thinks this is good shit then I am with him. Its sounds like Robert Rodriguez is doing this the right way! I am fucking excited, if Harnett is Dwight that wouldn't bother me at all. As for Marv....TELL ME BITCH! I WANNA KNOW! This is great news and all you naysayers can suck it bitches. Does anything make you all happy? I'm out!

Robert Rodriguez sucks as a director. He's aan auteur with toys not more no less, ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO sucked nuts. Harry pls stop using this. And that piece of shit about the evil teacher sin high school with Frodo was rubbish too (the one with Harry's cameo). webpage to promote your friend's movies.

I mean

The guy who played Barry the Baptist in Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels would have made a great Marv. Too bad he died. On another note, I have to agree about Frank Miller's decline in writing skills. He has cranked out some straight-up garbage the past ten years.

DESPERADO 4: TOOMANYACTORS,NOBODYCARES. HOPE IT'S GOOD, AT LEAST IT'LL NEVER BE THE WORST COMIC BOOK ADAPTATION EVER, JUDGE DREDD HAS THAT PARTICULAR HONOR. HERE'S HOPING JOSH HARTNETT GETS SHOT IN THE FACE AT THE BEGINING. MAYBE THAT'S WHAT HE'S ALREADY SHOT, I KNOW IF I SAW THAT I'D DEFINATELY BE ONBOARD.

I don't care who directs or how good the cast is; no live action film can possibly do Sin City justice. Impossible.

What do you mean you're not at liberty to say?! I thought a major part of your web site is to dish the details of projects before they're widely known. Have you now joined forces with the enemy?!

Hey, give directors like Rodriguez, Cameron or Tarantino the two greatest older action stars Stallone & Schwarzenegger in a BAD ASS comic book movie with a well developed script and see how wild an action movie you will get and drool over. Picture Sly as a two gunned Nick Fury or Arnie as Cable from X-Men (just two characters that came to my head) directed by one of these guys and there's a summer action film to behold. Rodriguez has always wanted to work with both and I hope even in Sin City there can be a good cameo.

Please stallone would reduce the audience for this to zero although i do respect his early films he aint no marv. Sorry dude im still for coconut Pete.

That was reported as his next film, wasn't it?

The man's got talent. And his approach to filmmaking is refreshing compared to everything else that's coming out. But he's been qouted in saying that he doesn't like doing movies that are adaptions, becuase he doesn't like putting his own ideas in to someone else's work, and he'd perfer to work on his own original stories. There just aren't enough established filmmakers that are even remotely interested in doing their own screenplays out there. And I'd like to back up another talk backer here and say that yes, the process of making a real movie is something you can never understand from simply being a "movie lover" or even going to film school. The difficulty of making the movie is enough to crack some people's shells, but the real attitude breaker is the never ending string of problems that come up.

OUATIM was one of the RARE occasions where I actually stopped the DVD and took it out. It was just a jumbled mess of nonsense. Horrible flick. Now hes doing Sin City? 5 years ago this would have been a dream announcement, now the jury is gonna have to wait and see. I fear Robert may be going down the Lucas path. Hes to enamored by his technological toys. When a director wears too many hats on set he neglects that most essential role of a director. DIRECTING. NOT BEING THE CAMERA OPERATOR, DP, EFFECTS SUPERVISOR, ETC. Maybe try paying attention to the actors performances live and in person and not on some sterile monitor. Maybe try the novel approach of actually paying attention the the fucking STORY and seeing if it makes a shred of sense. At least this time there will actually be a script in place BEFORE he starts to flush this. I don't mean to be negative, I really don't. Robert has been an inspiration to me. Hell, I have his picture posted next to my workstation at home, but for the love of god, pay ATTENTION to your actors man. DIRECT THEM. This film could be the shit, or it could be shit. ITS ALL ABOUT STORY. ITS ALL ABOUT STORY. And Harry, don't even bring up Nolan in this conversation. He leaves no doubt. Make it happen robert! Peace. M

Make Sin City totally washed out of color, then put color back IN, like for the red lips, blood, etc. Like what Sky Captain's doing, but more extreme. If it's really stylistic, this could be WAY cool. Like an animated film, but with real people. I'm psyched for this. Who the hell could play Marv? I actually agree that the governator would be great, but he's too far into the world of politics, IMO.

Hollywood took his screenplay and hacked it into two movies. THAT'S why Robocop 2 and 3 sucked. Avatar Press is currently doing a great job of translating the original script into comic form. It's great!! I agree that Miller's Dark Knight 2 didn't live up to expectations. Miller's art has gotten TOO dark and abstract. To say that he hasn't done anything good in the last ten years is to discount 300, many Sin City stories, and some Martha Washington stuff. He's still the man. Also, am I the only one who LOVED Once Upon a Time In Mexico? I thought it was fun. Not just another mindless action flick. You had to pay attention! Now that this is getting made, are we going to see Hardboiled?

FYI - Miller wrote the ORIGINAL robocop 2 script, not the one they actually used. Read his Robocop comics - it's robocop 2, but good, like it was meant to be.

One of the biggest dissapointments last year! I dont want Sin City to be a mess like that was! Let Quentin direct Sin City at least he still has the skills!

This fucking coat tail riding retard couldn't direct fucking traffic!!! I mean jesus Christ.....SPY KIDS? GAY. El Mariachi? GAY. EVERYTHING ELSE HE'S EVER DONE? GAY!!!! Get the FUCK AWAY from MY SIN CITY!!! GET AWAY! YOU SUCK SOOOO HARD!!!!

I agree with those here who say Ron Perlman has to be Marv, he would be a great choice.

SHADOWS. Film noir. The cel shading/sky captian suggestion is right on. It will probably be De Niro for Marv.

But I'm really not sure about Rodriguez for something like this. Desperado is a great flick, but everything since then has been kind of weak. I don't know, maybe this will be his masterpiece. ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- Also, Wallace Shawn would be perfect to play Rourke. And I hope they're not trying to throw in ALL of Booze, Broads & Bullets. There are a lot of stories in that book.

Let me get this right, if I've never directed a film I can't say someone is a bad director? Can I say they are a good director? Am I even allowed to see films? Maybe it should just be reserved for those who work in the industry. You know, I can't sing, but I know what good singing sounds like.

At least Anderson rips off good directors like Altman (*cough-MAGNOLIA). Rodriguez pretends to be a capable director, musician, writer, special efx guy, etc.. but he fails at all of those skills. SPY KIDS is a piece of shit, and I can't believe rational human beings can enjoy it.

Perlman would be better than Rourke, but Rourke wouldn't be bad. Stallone would be all wrong.

I think they are referring to the Paul Anderson who made Soldier, not the guy who made Magnolia

truer words have never been spoken.

and just because harry is his buddy I don't want to see harry's severed head in the movie somewhere like in marvs fridge on a plate of lettuce. That's ALL I ask. Thanks.

This movie should KICK ASS! Then again so should have Once upon a time in Mexico.

Seriously. Dude can kick some ass.

....ex Raider, Howie Long of Firestorm fame (and, err, 3000 Miles to Graceland, Dollar for the Dead, Broken Arrow). He's got the look, the hair, the acting chops (well, we'll see) and all the attitude of Marv. Give 'em a few band-aids and there ya go... filming in B & W is a great suggestion... Look all I'm sayin' is that if Thomas-don't-call-me-Mary Jane can be The Punisher...

Ok, People! I don't usally post on these messega boards, becuase for the most part they are full oif FANBOYS who have never been behind a camera(Tarentino ANYONE?) Anyways, I just want to say, that IF YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND Once Upon a Time, or you think that it's a jumble of ideas. THEN YOU ARE A FUCKING IDOIT. I mean come on, it's not that hard of a movie to follow. Really come on. Robert is by far one of the most talented Filmmakers to come along in a long time, he has fresh ideas, and has been a friend to FILMMAKERS ever sine El Mariacha first came out. So WHATEVER! Bunch of FUCKING FANBOYS, or Frustrated wannabe filmmakers.

The ability to create some inventive digital toys for movies therefore getting your name in the creative books does not a good director make. What the hell could Robert (OUATIM, Spy Kids, Desperado, From Dusk Till Dawn, El Mariachi)Rodriguez have shown Frank Miller to get him to relinquish the rights to one of his most prized possesions? What I think occured was that he came up with some inventive digital filters duplicating the inkwash feel of comics leaving Miller in awe signing on the dotted line. Frank Miller's name and film always seem to end in chaos(reference toRobocop 2&3and even DareDevil is loosly based on his comic run and lets not forget his rejected Year One script)so I thought he washed his hands with hollywood or would at least have the wits to do some thorough research before repeating the same mistakes. Who knows maybe this movie can achieve the mood of the comics, save Rodriguez's comical directing career and maybe it won't suck ass but all things considered we don't need a live action Sin City movie the same way we don't need a live Watchman movie but that hasn't stopped Alan Moore for giving it a go even after the end results of LXG. I guess in the end it all comes down to the power of the mighty dollar. Just look to the Wachowski's for reference.

I saw it in my crystal balls; old war wound from fighting in the 3-D battle arenas.

Take that however you wish too. As far as RR goes, he is very talented (comparing him to Paul -I've never made a good film yet -Anderson? Please...), BUT Spy Kids 2 & 3 and Once upon a Time in Mexico were very underwhelming, and the Kids sequels were just plain BAD.

He is one of my favorite directors, as he makes pulpy, enjoyable movies that are just pure cinema. Every movie he has ever made (excluding spy kids 3) has been entirely watchable to me. I am very happy he's getting the chance to do something dark and gritty and getting away from the bright, sundrenched films he's been doing in the past. It's always nice to see a good director do something a little different. The man knows how to put together some good action, and seems to be able to really build on the violence. With a decent budget and a good cast, he could do many great thigns with this. Can't wait to see.

after praising him for such a fun shoot during once upon a time in mexico its gotta be him

i haven't seen spy kids and any right minded film goer should A)never admit to seeing such a piece of rottin cack and B)admit it to millions of people online

You cant be serious!?!? Depp is an outstanding actor with about as much range as anyone could possibly have, but he is light years away from being the Marv Character as envisioned by Frankie. I like Ralf Moeller and obviously Ron Pearlman works, but the implication is that its someone big name. Depp is a big name, but hes no Marv by any stretch.

jeez this site is turning into a pile of shit. thank god for darkhorizons. aleast when garth takes bribes from studio's, he doesnt make it so obvious...

I never thought this would happen. MADMAN would have been sweet, but this? Shit. Maybe it'll get Miller to start working on the book again.

You know I'm fucking right. Eastwood would make a great Hartigan-but he's all but retired from acting. He'd never do it. Too bad since the character is clearly based on him. As for the rest of the cast: I am at a loss. I can't imagine anyone who could bring Marv to life. Or Miho. Or Nancy.

of the live action idea- no actor can play Marv. I've seen a test that was done recently for sin city that was completely stylized cg , and it blew me away! Some guys from LOTR and Final Fantasy worked on it. That is how this film should be made. maybe it will surface one day..

RGHHH...like I'm not having a shitty enough day as it is. I finally saw Mexico this weekend. Umm, this is what happens when no one steps in to tell the "genius" they might need to rethink their script, film etc. It happened with the Matrix sequels and the Star Wars sequel. All we ever hear from RR in every interview is how he does it all himself from his little studio. Whatever...I live in Austin, I know how many fucking people are on his payroll. Guess what? If I had 100 people getting the coffee, loading the film, making sure the books were straight, I could do all the "cool" stuff myself too. And anyone who says Mexico was a great movie does not know movies. It's a muddled mediocre mess. Face it...RR isn't the worst director in the world but for someone who does SOOO much work behind the camera, can anyone really call him an auteur on the order of Fincher or Gilliam or Soderbergh or hell, even Walter Hill who might be his closest parallel. Themes? Style? What? It's just kind of MOR entertainment. Nothing deep or interesting. Maybe Roadracers. That had some ideas in it. He's not gonna do this movie justice and I don't care who your mama is. Who's gonna tell him? He has talent for sure. But he never made a great movie that will influence cinema. Not like Seven or the French Connection or even Dumb and Dumber (which I hate). Yeah...right the rebel without a crew. How about the rebel without anything truely interesting in his movies. And film is dead? Sure...you can't stop hi-def. But anyone who says it LOOKS better then film is wrong. Or doesn't put a premium on aesthetic. It'll all be hi-def. But go see a movie in 70mm film. It blows doors on anything hi def will ever be. Some things are worth the trouble. Hope it was worth it Frank. One more person telling a craftsman he's an artist.

Proof that a jackass and an pig can breed. suck my ballsack. beeeeotch!

Is that a wink, wink?

I know what they were referring to, but, having seen no Paul W.S. Anderson films, I chose to refer to Paul "I plagiarized from SHORT CUTS" Anderson instead...

remember that one? Kind of a sister film to AFTER HOURS (why don't we get any more yuppies-in-hell comedies?) that was directed by Jonathan Demme, before he lost his talent.

WORST FLIGHT EVER!

Patrick Kilpatrick would make a great Marv... he played the big dullard in the season 8 X-files ep. who could see through walls

What the heck happened to the Madman film!?! He's been sitting on those rights forever!

Yeah, there goes all my faith in this movie already. I don't know why directors are so ga-ga over this guy... he hasn't been in one movie where he's shown an iota of charisma. Standard pretty boy looks, mediocre acting... and now he's in Sin City... that's just as bad as Keanu in Hellblazer. Bleh.

and I like Rodriguez as a director, but it's far too easy to fuck up. It would indeed work MUCH better as an animated movie, but if it's going to be made it's going to be made. I pretty much guarantee it won't be black and white, since even great black and white films tend to bomb(ED WOOD, THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE). there are of course exceptions(SCHINDLER'S LIST and several low budget films like CLERKS). But Rodriguez must have done SOMETHING neat to peak Miller's interest. A more extreme version of the process used to remove color from the film and make shadows darker? I can't remember what it's called right now, but since he's not using film anyway it would be easier to do it on the computer(there's a chance of ruining film when it's used). What else? CGI shadows? I remain pessimistic about this one i'm sad to say, it really does belong in in animated form if anything.

I respect Robert as a filmmaker. He's got a great refreshing attitude & his tale of success certainly is inspiring. But his movies are at best average. Can anyone honestly say that he has made a great film? When you look at what he's made the consistant thing is that he has movies with high production values but were cheap by Hollywood standards. His stable of actors aren't great talents, most are cruising on looks. All his movies have a lot of flash and style but they never hold together until the end. I'm sure this 9 minutes looks awesome but what will the next 90 be like? Too bad that his involvement assures us just an average action film. The first book is an awesome comic. Making it a gritty B&W movie could be amazing. The only saving grace will be if he puts down one of his many hats. Filmmaking is a collaborative art.

to all the people suggesting people such as Vinnie Jones and Schwarzenegger as Marv, those are really terrible choices. Micky Rourke is a decent choice, he definitly has the look of someone who's been in far too many brawls(and in fact, has), and he's a good actor. Liam Neeson, almost has the same profile (and height) as Marv, but other than that... He'd have to bulk up and be covered in prosthetic scars or something. Josh Hartnett has never been the kind of actor to explode off of the screen or anything, but he's not terrible either(i liked him in THE FACULTY better than anything else, but he was playing "the cool guy"). I could see him has Dwight, because Dwight was never that charismatic anyways. He does seem too young to play him though. Clint Eastwood as Hartigan(sp?) could be really interesting too. And here's my two cents... Buscemi as THAT YELLOW BASTARD! hehehe...

Thats what I heard anyways...also heard they're trying to get Dafoe and Depp in for smaller roles, but scheduling may screw the pooch on that happening. Also Keitel is their backup choice for Hartigan.

While it is true that I

I really can't believe some people prefer video. Sure it's cheaper and easier to use. The result has been a drop in the quality of people who make movies. Twenty years ago, at least there was competent craft in films. Today, it's a point and click mentality where any jackass with 500 bucks can shoot and then shoot again if it doesnt work, and shoot again if it doesnt work and shoot again if it doesnt work. Film looks better. It feels better. Videomakers are not filmmakers. Video's are not films. God save film.

next time just leave it as a headline saying ' I know something you don't know'... cant say?????? then dont say...

Maybe it'll turn out decent or great, who knows, but I can go in unbiased.

n/t

...Chiaki Kuriyama (Kill Bill & Battle Royale) is going to play Miho? She needn't utter a word with the Miho role so language won't be a problem. Look, this is how it's gonna play out, alright?

but this seems like exciting news, especially if Roderiguez works closely with Miller. I'm not really familiar with Sin City, so anybody wanna explain what the basic premise is about? This discussion is pretty cool, this is the first time in a long while that AICN Talkbacks haven't degenerated into name calling, Harry bashing, and the like, so keep it up!

Isn't this the comic that produced the action figure in an electric chair spin off?

Forget this dv cinematography crap; it's easier yeah but it doesn't look nearly as good as celluloid. This technology should be embraced once it looks identical to FILM and captures the same light nuances as FILM, and right now that is not the case. I like the look of 28 DAYS LATER because it embraces the grime of digital film which adds a heightened level of realism. I think all filmmakers who feel hopelessly compelled to shoot dv should go for 28-esque grime or don't use it at all because the cutting edge dv cameras that were supposed to give celluloid a run for its money gave ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO such a monochromatic and vapid look that it depressed me. I saw MEXICO in a dlp house too btw and too me it only accentuated the hideous "pixely" propensities. SIN CITY--in all its noir glory--demands to be shot on film! Just don't make SIN CITY 3-D, please!

Unlike Joel Schumacher's Batman, which makes me want to shit myself and wipe my feces all over my body and cry in a corner....it's sad. But it looks like the tiem to do that again is coming up, as it was announced he'd be returning to direct anotehr BATMAN film...check it here, shits, read it and shit yourselves --- http://www.geocities.com/cinemasplurge/a2.html the resourceful little shits even got ahold of script pages -- http://www.geocities.com/cinemasplurge/a7.html

Please sweet lord let that Schumaker story be fake!! Oh my word I will get PUNCHED IN THE FUCKING BALLS if it means that that story is fake. PUNCHED REALLY FUCKIN HARD.

Well this film finally be Frank Miller Jackpot! In the past, FM's work were unbareable*aka Robocop2. Let's hope this is works. I love the comic and his visual style, a master writer and artist.

after the hulk & daredevil i had pretty much given up on comic book films....but this sin city film sounds great....i think it can be pulled off. - (www.ohiotrespassers.com)

I agree with JulienDonkeyGirl: Sin City needs to be animated, in black and white with splashes of red for blood, lipstick and for the dress used by the Babe who Wore Red. Perhaps cel-shaded CGI such as was used for the recent Spiderman series on MTV, but done properly. without the characters moving like they're from the Sims. I like Rodriguez, he's a cool hack, but I think that Quentin is more suited to a project like this. Being the ultimate plagiarist, he would have the best eye to steal exactly the right source materials, in terms of music and editing, with Miller's approval, that would bring Sin City to life. Ron Pearlman IS Marv, accept no substitutes. If they do decide to go animated, Pearlman should do the voice. Dominic West, a not-so-famous actor (HBO's The Wire, Rene Zellweger's murdered husband in Chicago) would make a perfect Dwight McCarthy, he has the same face!

The original "El Mariachi" proves that rodrigues has the ability to make amazing movies. It had a tiny budget (made in south america), but still managed to pull some really original shit. Frank Miller shoul definietly have some degree of control over this movie, it's his baby. He's been getting bad reviews lately (dk2 was disappointing i'll admit), but he is one of the best writers in the comic industry. Its not the art that makes sin city so great, its the writing. I can only hope that Rodriguez has the sense to make this movie in B&W. He should also have an original soundtrack with blues and country guitar (since thats what marv listens to). as for casting, so far none of you have mentioned an actor that looks like marv, so forget the physical parameters, focus on the right attitude. personally, i think bruce willis has the right character for marv (last man standing) but i would be happier if he used an unknown actor, or at least a less famous one. star qaultiy always ruins the believability of movies. cant wait man

Leeds boss Eddie Gray has to play Marv.

I think he would be a good choice to play Marv. Damn big, scary looking, right sort of voice (gruff or loud depending on circumstance). Has been pretty good actor. Right age. You could believe that as Marv said of himself, the way he looks, he's never even been able to buy a woman, but could also bring off the initial good humour and friendliness to lull gunsels before he takes them apart. I assumed Josh Hartnett could play Kevin, the villain. Clean cut looking, around the right age. Wouldn't need to act much. I haven't liked RR's work since the first few minutes of Desperado (Steve Buscemi's speech). The amorality of his work bothers me (making murderous scum heroes as in From Dusk Til Dawn. And Frank Miller's work is variable. But it generally has a strong moral centre which would complement RR's moral emptiness. To be honest I don't see a downside to the movie. It may be poor. It may not. But it wasn't going to be made before this, so we are no worse off. The thing one might lose is a few dollars and a couple of hours. BTW, I can't understand the argument that one cannot criticise a film without being a director oneself. As Pericles supposedly pointed out "although only a few may originate a policy, we are all able to judge it."

...appear to lie only in limiting himself to a budget!!! He may be able to make Sin City for about $20 million or so..BUT IT WILL STILL SUCK ASS!!!!

Dwight McCarthy; Johnny Depp (probably Hartnett, though) Cannibal Kevin; Kevin Spacey Marv; Ron Perlman Wendy/Goldie; Heather Graham Lucille; Carrie-Anne Moss Ava; Laura Harring Gail; Gina Gershon Miho; Ziyi Zhang Manute; Michael Jai White Nancy; Anna Paquin John Hartigan; Robert Duvall or Harvey Keitel That Yellow Bastard; Steve Buscemi