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New HARRY POTTER & THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN TV spot!
Hey folks, Harry here... no, not that one, the disgusting fat one. Anyway, I know hardly anything about Harry Potter, but I feel any film with a talking shrunken voodoo head hanging from a rearview mirror has to be cool as hell. I want a talking shrunken voodoo head hanging from my rearview mirror. REAL BAD. I've got many shrunken heads, over the years as Moriarty has caught up with various rude Talk Backers... he's performed ancient techniques he learned whilst hiding from Holmes on the banks of the Amazon, and well... I have an extensive collection. However, none of them... sniffle... talk. Can't wait to see this one!
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Yes, that's right...poopie
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Maybe. Try some stuff for that. Updates....I began to forget what they looked like.
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OK, most of the people I know consider this the best book, however, I'm worried because Chris Columbus has given the baton to another director, and I was not too pleased with some choices made in "Y Tu..." So forgive my apprehension.
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I was reading a few news reports about a "special guest" appearing onstage during the halftime show...AND BOY WAS THAT A SPECIAL GUEST!!! IF ONLY MISS JANET LET THE LEFT BOOB OUT TO PLAY WITH ITS TWIN!!!! DAMMIT!!! WHY NOT???? oh well...glass is half full I suppose...And thus, I love the right side! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!
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..or did that look like the mummy?
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There's absolutely no way of judging or even trying to judge a movie's quality on that little unless you have some sort bias, but by the same token, there was really nothing there to get excited over either. It was kind of neat that Cuaron was allowed to do his own thing with the toilet and the shrunken Rasta head....I guess....but a lame-ass voiceover on top of stock footage doesn't exactly propel one's expectations into the stratosphere.
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Sure you can Ribbons! Just look at 'Torque'... ya knew 5 seconds into the preview that anyone who wasn't a pathetic and shallow sellout fanboy retard was going to absolutely HATE it for the vile festering puddle of dogshit that it was.
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What's funny to me is that I'm sure there was at least one blown-away moviegoer who came out of "Y Tu Mama Tambien" all like, Man, Cuar
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I agree, the upcoming 3rd Harry Potter movie makes me nervous, too. I'm afraid that their going to stray too far from the books. The first trailer looks good enough, but everything specific I've heard about the production is quite troubling. For instance, Dumbledore is now being played, "as if he were an elegant old hippy", according to Newsweek. Then there was the decision to keep Harry Potter and the rest of the students mostly in normal street clothes instead of wizard robes. And recently, there was an announcement by the director that the movie would be less than 2 hours long. I can only guess at some of the other changes that were made, but I don't have a very good feeling about them. Admittedly, Chris Columbus was an average director at best, but at least you knew he'd deliver a decent honest adaptation. Alfonso Cuaron, on the otherhand, is much more of a wildcard who likes to be way too self-indulgent with his movies. Does anyone else find it curious that the Harry Potter producers went out and found a different director for Harry Potter 4 so early in the production of Harry Potter 3? I wonder if they already knew then that they had made a mistake hiring Alfonso Cuaron?
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Which were absolute weepworthy travesties. They had the potential to be decent movies, and then Hello Chris Columbus!
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Touche.
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Feb 02, 2004 4:25:09 AM CST
Anybody wonder if this franchise might run out of steam?
by prof. pop-cult
Let's face it: The movies so far haven't been that great. At this rate, I wonder if Warners will even going to bother making movies 6 and 7 when we arrive at that point in the future.
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I've never encountered anyone that wore their ignorance like a badge of honor the way you do. (Present company excepted,of course)
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could somebody post a link to the quicktime version if it exists ? thanks
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The movie length doesn't have much to do with quality of the translation. Especially concerning the 3rd story. I mean, the whole last 100 pages of the book fly pretty quickly. That will probably be 30-40 minutes tops in movie time. And I always felt that Harris's Dumbledore was too serious and serene. He needed to bit a bit weirder. As for the street clothes. Watch the darn preview. It looks to me like they still all wear their wizard clothes for the most part. Just not at the end when the semester is over and most of the action takes place.
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Lance, you make good point about there being no correlation between running time and quality. I'm just concerned it'll end up too streamlined. There is a lot of good material in the book to use. As for Dumbledore, I always felt that the late Richard Harris had nailed the part. He was whimsical enough to be amusing and quirky, but serious enough underneath to maintain unquestioned authority (and completely justify Lord Voldemort's fear of him). Granted, there was no way to get around having to recast the part, but some of director Cuaron's quotes about how he had the new actor play Dumbledore sound as if he was drifting into farce. Hopefully, please god, I'm 100% totally wrong about it. Don't confuse my concerns about the production with bashing the film. I love the Harry Potter series and will be in the theater to see it opening weekend, like I was for the first two films. I just fear for it, because I care about it. I don't want the Harry Potter films to end up being like the Star Trek films where the quality starts varying wildly from film to film because of constantly changing directors and styles. I really hope Alfonso Cuaron turns out a great film, but I'll worry about it until I actually see it.
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... as long as they keep making lots of money. The world-wide box office for the first two movies was staggering and there is no reason to believe the audience won't be there in the future. J. K. Rowlings is actually helping Warner by taking more time between writing the last couple of books. It allows the movie time to catch up. If she takes three years to write book 6 and three more years for book 7, then the last book and movie might actually be released in the same calender year (possibly a spring release for the book coupled with a Christmas season release of the movie).
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While the first two HP movies aren't **great**, they are quite rewatchable. Which I guess is better FOR THEIR AUDIENCE than being great movies. I find myself switching over to a HP film if it's on HBO and there's nothing elese to watch, and I enjoy them every time. Let's hope #3 lives up to the first two in that respect.
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This isn't like pulling teeth or going sans food for an hour at a stretch, they're DAMN GOOD BOOKS, and you should be able to finish the first one in probably three hours flat (or, in about three Snickers bars). Do you honestly think that *not* reading them is some cool geek badge of honor?
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All 7 of the films will be made & all will be equally successful. The die hard fans of the books & those that didn't read them (Harry) but still enjoy the films will be enough to give the films strong support. As for the films remaining faithful to the books, J.K. Rowling still has enough control to keep them faithful. I've read that she has overlooked the production of the 3rd film just as she did w/ the 1st 2. She's never going to let anyone stray too far. Cuaron has listed little extra things he wanted to add that Rowling shot down.
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Cuaron seems to have allowed to do anything he likes. In the books wizard culture is clearly different from muggle. The first two movies respected this showing Diagon Alley as a sort of medievil/victorian shopping street. What does Cuaron do but put the cast in the Hogsmeade scenes in their own trendy street clothing, even Slytherins who hate muggles. As for the shrunken that is the sort of thing the Malfoy family would own not the harmless driver of the Knightbus.
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Feb 02, 2004 2:52:16 PM CST
I dunno why everyone says "Prisoner" is the best one, I think it
by tall_boy
that one just kicks ass. Sure this one has the introduction of Sirus Black, the Dementors and that cool time-travel twist ending thingie, but "Goblet" just seriously ownz this one five ways from Sunday. The opening. The Quiddich world cup, Tri-Wizard competition, the DADA teacher. And the ending. My God, the friggin ending of "Goblet" is great. Heck, I think I liked "Pheonix" (long winded it may have been) better then "Prisoner". Which, if they take some liberties with "Prisoner" and cut it down, etc. etc. I don't mind at all. There's lots of cool visual tricks you can expand on. Anyway, if this one is a completely dog-fuck (which I can't see it being, even if they stray from the source) "Goblet" is the one I'm watching out for them to do right.
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In fairness, Hermione is muggle-born and Harry has enough money to buy decent clothes, so the clothing thing can be justified, given that the only characters I recall seeing in civvies were those two. I could be wrong, and it'd be quite wildly off the mark if Ron was dressed similarly, but I'm willing to let it slide for the time being.
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Goblet of Fire is definitely the best of the books...it's one of the few I can stand to read over and over. Prisoner of Azkaban is great, sure, but it doesn't have any genuinely creepy and cool moments as genuinely creepy or cool as Goblet's intro scene, the scene after that Quidditch tournament (where the Death Eaters are attacking muggles), or the final cemetery scene between Voldemort and Harry. Plus, Mad-Eye Moody is an excellent supporting character, even if he isn't Mad-Eye Moody.
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Feb 02, 2004 7:53:32 PM CST
Who would have imagined we'd see the day when people would compl
by minderbinder
And Cuaron isn't doing 4 because they're going to start shooting it before 3 is finished. I'm looking forward to see what he does, the first two were good but there's tons of room for improvement. And what's the big deal about muggle clothes? That's what they wear under their robes anyway.
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It's not like they take a long time, I finished the whole lot of five in the month of January. The first one only takes a few hours for an adult reader for gosh sake! I also agree with the above poster in that the 4th one is my favorite and has the most potential to be messed up. The third one has a predictable "twist" ending with Sirius and I thought the Wormtail explanantion kind of comes out of too far to the left field. Where can I find info on casting and stuff? I'm curious who was cast as Prof. Lupin as that's a sizable role for the third film and also the role of Cedric Diggory as that character comes into play in the fourth.
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Feb 03, 2004 1:37:53 AM CST
David Thewlis will be playing Lupin I believe, and that's pretty
by almost sexy
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Yeah, I think that they'll probably make all seven books into movies: like the other poster said, they rake in assloads of money all over the world. For anyone who didn't care for the first two, I think anyone who has read the books will agree that there is a very different feel those first books and the 3, 4, and 5th. Personally, I think they just get more and more cinematic. I think the "Phoenix" battle in the Ministry of Magic could be an awesome action set piece. Too bad the kid who plays Potter will actually have to learn how to act before all those post-veil moments. Uh-oh, I think I just opened the door for the converation about when they'll ditch the current kids and replace them with younger ones.
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Feb 03, 2004 2:23:55 AM CST
Harry, cut the fictional narratives within the postings...now th
by 0007
...not that I am complaining though. Moriarty looks cool enough in real life, but that fictional stuff is not needed anymore...your site gets enough traffic without the hype.
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Picture the scene in the first LOTR movie Shire Hobbits are shown wearing 18th/19th Century style clothing now imagine in the third movie when the 4 Hobbits return to the Shire and find all the Hobbits dressed in black leather jackets, t shirts, jeans and trainers. Movie fans would naturally slate Peter Jackson for ignoring continuity.
So why has Cuaron been allowed to get away with modernizing HP.
In the books wizards dress differently from muggles, they only dress like muggles when in muggle areas. Even then pureblood wizards usually mess up and dress in odd combinations of clothing.
As for Hermione being muggle-born, so what? She is still a witch and should be dressing like one when in the wizard world. It is strange that we didn't see anyone in hip trendy muggle clothing in the Diagon Alley scenes in the first two movies? in the second movie how did Harry, the Weasleys, Hermione and Draco dress when going to Diagon Alley? They all wore cloaks. However cloaks and robes are not cool enough for Cuaron. He told the cast to show up in their own clothing, the problem with this is.
1. The cast will dress like themselves not their characters.
2. The trendy fashions will age very quickly making POA look dated.
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It's more like if the hobbits were suddenly wearing an article of elvish clothing...which...they do. How could Cuaron "modernize" the stories? They're set in the present day. We've already seen Harry and Hermione wear muggle clothes (it's what they have worn up until age 11 and during summers, breaks and casual time). It's just a question of *when* they're wearing certain clothing. And I don't think the books are really specific enough to be that nitpicky. Heck, even the ILLUSTRATIONS in the books show them in muggle clothing at Hogsmeade and such. By the way, the link to the movie has been dead since last night.
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... are the only students that wear their school clothes when they go into the world to go shopping or have a drink at a trendy cafe. After a week of wearing the same bloody thing everyday, it's nice to break out into your favourite pair of jeans for a few hours on the town. Out.
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The "Mugglization" of clothing isn't so much what bothers me, it's the fact that Hogwarts' robes have been restyled. Obviously, it's not the most prominent piece of design work in the movies, and I know it sounds anal, but it is a willful disruption of continuity, and, like one poster said a while back, I don't think that thousands-year old schools would revamp their wardrobe 3 times within 50 years. Then again, maybe they would. But there's no justification for changing the robes besides for the new ones looking cooler, so what's to stop the next four directors from making the same decisions over and over again? Whatever. As long as it doesn't happen with the release of every single installment, it's not really much of a distraction. ****** Good to see some love for "Goblet of Fire." That, too, is my favorite book of the series thus far (although it doesn't have much competition), and Newell's a great concept director, so here's hoping he nails it. Favorite moment: Harry watching the Foe Glass as Snape, McGonagall, and Dumbledore come to his rescue. And I'd say the kids are agreeable enough. Rupert Grint is probably the least polished, but he has good comic timing, which is essential to Ron's character, and he looks the part.
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...on the banks of the eBay? Oh wait, that was something else.
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The books are set in the 1990s however wizard culture is old-fashioned they do not use electricity, they use broomsticks, quills etc. So wizards may be living in the 1990s but they are anything but modern.
As for the book illustrations if that is what Cuaron has been following no wonder he has got things wrong. I take it you are refering to the US illustrations? All 5 HP books have been published in the UK with the only illustration inside being the Hogwarts crest. Using the same logic Harry Potter must be wearing a rat headed hat in book 1 because that is how the Italian artist shows him. In the books it clearly states that they dress as wizards when visiting Hogsmeade.
On another point Cuaron has admitted to modernizing the third movie and the producers have stated he has modernized the movie, so it is pointless arguing that he hasn't.
As well as changing the Hogwarts uniforms he has also changed the Quidditch gear as well. So a 1000 year old school just decides to change both its school and Quidditch uniform the 3rd year Harry goes to it and that very year cloaks and robes go out of fashion for teenage wizards who refer to hang about all-wizard shopping areas in their most streetwise muggle clothing. Cuaron has never heard of continuity. -
OK. I usually don't say this on AICN, but you guys need to seriously get a life. Nobody gives a rat's ass about costume changes. Everybody's enjoyment of a movie does not hinge on the modernization of the school uniforms. Grow the hell up and watch the movie before you judge it.
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Feb 03, 2004 12:42:59 PM CST
"wizards may be living in the 1990s but they are anything but mo
by minderbinder
They wear muggle clothes all summer and on breaks, why it it so outrageous that they might actually bring some of those clothes *that they already own* with them?
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Wow. You're cool. Can you take me in and teach me the ways of the world? Oh, wow, I know I'm lame and all, but pretty please? Yeah, theoretically, if the uniforms have the potential to get needlessly re-"modernized" every year, it would piss me off because it would be needlessly distracting, just as I imagine others would find it. So sue me. Oh, and I "get out" and enjoy life just fine, you self-conscious prick. Too many wedgies as a kid, perhaps?
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I never said the movie was going to be bad because of the uniform changes. Hell, even if it was bad, I wouldn't use uniform changes as an example of flaws in the film. It's just frustrating to discover.
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Maybe it was because it was so much more than the two that preceded it, but I was way more emotionally drawn into PoA. Even now, after reading the first 4 at least 10x each, I still enjoy PoA more than any other. Also, I was ecstatic when I first heard Cuaron was directing PoA, not only because I LOVE "Y tu mama, tambien!", but also b/c "The Little Princess" that he did is my all-time favorite kids movie. I love that he's changed the film to suit his vision for it. All the changes I've heard about it are well within his rights of artistic license (I mean uniforms?!, PLEASE!). Also, even though I don't expect all of us to have the same impression of the characters, I liked reading in Newsweek of Cuaron's vision for Dumbledore to be more of a hippy. I thought Richard Harris was absolutely brilliant and perfect as Dumbledore........for the first two films. What I mean is, beginning in PoA, Dumbledore's character develops more and his revolutionary spirit comes out more. The politics of the Ministry of Magic and the wizarding world in general were touched on in Chamber of Secrets and our awareness of it only multiplies w/ each book. I'm really looking forward to the next film even though I have the highest expectations of it b/c the book is the one I love most. Peace.
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there is no need for this to get personal.
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Ultimately, what concerns me most is that the Harry Potter movie series will end up suffering the same infamous fate that befell other once proud franchises (Batman, James Bond, etc,) when they started bringing in revolving door rent-a-directors. Suddenly everything starts being changed just because it can be, and the movie's look and feel gets redesigned and reredesigned everytime out so that each new director can put his own touch on the film merely to satisfy whim and vanity. In the end, all we're left with are self indulgent sequels that aren't worthy of their name, and which forget everything that made the franchise so exciting to begin with.
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I believe the point being made, is why are Harry and the rest of them dressed like muggles when visiting Hogsmeade? The previous director admitted that JKR did want them to wear contemporary clothing BUT underneath wizard clothing.
Is it or is it not meant to be an all-wizard village. Why have all the students developed a strange allergy to cloaks?
"Lets all visit Hogsmeade in our hip hooded sweat tops, cloaks are so boring!"
As for Cuaron showing artistic license, excuse me but POA is meant to be a sequel to the previous two movies. By going for a contemporary look Cuaron is contradicting the previous movies.
Are we to expect continuity to change every time there is a new director or every third year of school?
Can we expect a new uniform in movie 5 and then movie 7?
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I suggest some people read book 3 chapter 10, book 4 chapter 19 and book 5 chapter 16 if you want to find out how muggle-borns, halfbloods and purebloods dress when visiting Hogsmeade.
Then get out you videos and DVDs of the two HP movies and watch the Diagon Alley parts.
Then look at how Cuaron has them dressed for Hogsmeade.
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The first two stray too far from the books, too! I swear, I'm getting really ticked off that the ghosts are all getting cut out, even though Rik Mayall has performed as Peeves on both movies! WHY CUT PEEVES OUT? Grrr!
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This isn't James Bond here; we're not talking about an ongoing series that has the luxury of being able to change its aesthetics and be judged by a different set of criteria. This is a limited series. It's a story. And in stories, bars and styles and uniforms don't just arbitrarily change every chapter. If you look at this film when it comes out, with Cuaron's "artistic license" (and since when was Queer Eye-ing Hogwarts robes considered capital-a Art?) admired, it may not seem too important, and admittedly, it's not. Okay? I know that it's not. By the same token, in later years, when kids sit down to watch the 7-odd movies and the Harry Potter story back-to-back, they're gonna be like "Why'd they have to change their uniforms?" I also think it's highly ironic that a lot of talkbackers are capitalizing on our finnicky attitudes towards these changes by calling us dorks to boost their own egos. About 80% of the talkback nation said Ang Lee's 'HULK' sucked because "Uhhh....hurr.....it was too self-indulgent." Well, we're talking about disrupting the continuity of a story because you think your vision of the frickin' costumes is more right than its previous incarnation. If that isn't "self-indulgent," I don't know what is.
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They're adolescents, I guess. I think at least it services the idea of these kids having growing pains, so I'm cool with it. Plus, I'm sure at least some of them would rather wear street clothes than robes, anyway.
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