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The Latest Series of Disasters To Plague SUPERMAN!

Hey folks, Harry here... Ok, you probably caught the news that was spreading like wildfire back around the time of that Fangoria Convention, where Selma Blair stated that she was "THIS CLOSE" to signing on to become Lois Lane. Ahhhh, things seemed so correct back then. A quality dramatic actress that completely looked like Lois Lane has always looked. There was much jubilation.

Last night, I got on the phone with a friend of mine that sweeps up around the Warner Lot and is 100% reliable, and I was asking my typical questions, like... How Bad Is Catwoman Going To Suck? and he would laugh and say that it is a freight train of shit without brakes. And on a lark I said, "Heard anything about SUPERMAN?" And there was silence.


I heard a cough, "Well, it ain't Selma Blair anymore." I expressed my utter disappointment, and countered with asking who it was, "Beyonce Knowles." I was kinda silent for a bit. "Have you heard who's playing Lex Luthor?" he asked me. "No" -- That's when he says, "Johnny Depp." Aaaaaah FUCK!

Ok, can you see what's happening here. They're not making the great SUPERMAN movie, they're making the hip and pop and garbage version. I love Johnny Depp, but he's wrong for Lex Luthor. Lex doesn't need to be funny or quirky. He needs to be calculating, charming and cold. Somebody like a shaved headed version of Ralph Fiennes. And Lois Lane, you don't throw away nearly 70 years of programming that Lois Lane is a small lithe brunette that wears wonderous buisness suits. Beyonce is COMPLETELY WRONG FOR THE PART! You need an actress, not a fucking PEPSI COMMERCIAL POP TART!

Great. So we're gonna get a great Christopher Nolan BATMAN movie, and a shitty SUPERMAN movie. Fucking great. Assholes.

This is Lois Lane - coming August 2004 from DC DIRECT!

Meanwhile, Jr Mintz was pouring through her brother's comic collection and came up with this... Maybe this is how Warner Brothers came up with this BRILLIANT idea!

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  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:45 p.m. CST

    I have given up all hope for this movie...

    by Falcon-1

    When I first read Moriarty's review of the script over a year ago, I knew then, this was not MY Man of Steel. I knew then, this was not the Man of Tomorrow with whom I had grown up with. I knew then, THIS Superman did not belong in the pantheon of great film, television, radio, and animation Supermen who had come before. And lastly, I knew MY Superman will never be seen.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah...

    by Falcon-1

    Of all the articles on which to claim TalkBack firsts on, I wish it had not been this one. But then, I wish I would have read this article and seen that Warners had changed their collective minds about trying to put out a Superman movie. There was no way they could make a movie and do the character justice, so rather than to try and make fools of themselves and the character, they would just give it up and go on with exploring other characters. At this point, I wish such a press release would come; but I don't expect it. In fact, I wish I could see one for Nolan's Batman as well. The more I hear and read about it, my hopes are fading fast for it as well. Thank God for video and DVD so I can go back in time and see my heroes as they were meant to be on the silver screen and not how some music video, hyped-up director and his cronies see them. Shame on Warners, a pox upon them and their households.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:51 p.m. CST

    they can't fucking be serious

    by The Dude Abides

    do they give one shit about the characters or fans that have been around for over 50 years? obviously not.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Depp would be perfectly fine...

    by MisterGrimloch

    as Lex, or Clark. because when it comes down to it, this movie needs something to keep viewers interested. clearly the script will suck, as do all superhero movie scripts done within the last 20 years, so the casting should at least..........oh fuck i'm so tired i feel like puking. Depp is a greatly entertaining actor, so who cares? i hope this movie is made, so that i can rejoice in how laughably shitty is winds up being. i hate comic book hero movies.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:55 p.m. CST

    well as for johnny....

    by metsrulein2k

    I think he can act any way he wants to. And if he realizes that Lex should be a cold hearted manipulating bastard, that is how he'll play him. Depp isn't stupid and he'll know when to not be a goofball and when to put on a game face. But what do i know, i want nicholas brendon to play superman (xander from buffy) so I may be off my rocker, but i don't think so.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:56 p.m. CST


    by Pr_Frink

    If they're going to make a bad Superman movie, they might as well make the one that was going to be produced by the guy who did Wild Wild West. At least it was going to have a giant spider, and Braniac fighting a polar bear. We could then laugh at it, unlike now where everyone will just break out in tears. Sickening.

  • Honestly, I think this is a huge conspiracy for us to be thankful for Ashton Kutcher as Superman and Katie Holmes as Lois. Note to Warner Bros.' producers and casting directors: LAY OFF THE CRYSTAL METH!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:58 p.m. CST

    WB sucks.

    by FarfrumWorkin

    They simply can't do good with their DC property. Time Warner is the parent, and WB is the child that can't play nice with it's toys, so they must be TAKEN AWAY! Time Warners either needs to fors WB to sell DC to one of their other companies, or simply make a contract that states all DC movies MUST be made by a different studio (preferably New Line). It's a huge slap to the face of a company that desperately needs it.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:58 p.m. CST

    super quinlan

    by hank quinlan

    Yeah, what did you expect? I heard McG was attached again. But I saw on IMDB they made it Richard Donner so I figured there was hope. Somebody wised up with Batman. It's so weird they can't get it together with Superman. My pick for director...Gore Verbinski, who knows his way around a smart script and has a good visual sense. Plus he just made two big hits in a row.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:59 p.m. CST


    by Wrecks

    THE FUCK???? Grape, Luthor, Cleopatra, Lane... ahhh my head is gonna explode!!! IDIOTS!!!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Remember in 1997 when it was going to be Nicholson as Luthor, Ca

    by Aston Lad

    This is a movie where no director or star is attached for more than a few months, with the exception of Cage who was somehow tied to it for 4 years. Coming soon: confirmation that Depp and Beyonce are not, in fact, in the movie anymore.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:02 p.m. CST


    by Cyridel

    *blink* *stare* I have to go throw up now.

  • (1) Relax.This movie will never actually get made. Even if it does, it doesnt matter. We already got Richard Donner plus Smallville and Superman will come again and again. I could care less if this project fucks up. (2) Everyone knows that the problem is Jon Peters and not Comic book movies. I think this is just a sysyphean hell that WB locked Jon Peters in to ensure that he can't fuck up any other projects. (3) As for Beyonce - I'm beyond caring if white characters become black or whatever. Lana Lang is a red head in the comics. I don't hear a lot of bitching about that. Or blonde Pete being a black guy - and more importanly a wee tiny black guy without enough sex appeal and presence to ever woo Lana and become Vice President. I can totally understand the desire of the studio to find some way to freshen up the franchise. The bigger problem is that Beyonce is Beyonce. Not sure she's all that capable an actor. (4) As for Johnny Depp - don't be ridiculous. Johnny Depp is a fine Lex Luthor once you shave him bald. (as long as they actually, um...SHAVE HIM BALD!!) Johnny Depp can play almost anything. You dont think he can make a fine Luthor, have a look at Agent Sands in (the otherwise hard to watch) Once upon a time in Mexico. (5) Not that any of this matters because it'll all change next month when it is announced that Gary Coleman has been cast as Lois Lane and the Cast of Crossfire will be playing Mecha-Luthor with James Carville as the head.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Now cast Jay Z as Superman & we're really cookin' !!!!!

    by Nice Marmot

    Somebody kill this franchise now. Please? Pretty please???

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Beyonce Knowles?!?!?!??

    by manwiththedogs

    Now I HAVE heard everything. Unfuckingbelievable.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:05 p.m. CST

    This'll Change At Least Three More Times OR... Now That We've Go

    by jollydwarf

    ...why not cast Saddam as Lex? The inbred yahoos out there would eat it up. Stunt casting seems for the TRL kids seems to be the mandate from Warner Bros. (How did the Harry Potter series NOT get fucked up?) And look out, ye who vocally oppose such a "bold" and "forward-thinking" move as casting Beyonce as Lois. You're a racist, somehow, dontcha know? (Rolls eyes in resignation over a society crippling itself via forced political correctness)

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:07 p.m. CST

    I can remember what some of you guys said now....

    by ThingsThatTimDog

    "Its okay to have a black Kingpin." Well look what that has just fucking birthed, Beyonce Fucking Knowles IS Lois Lane. Congrats fucktards.*****Please somebody burn WB to the ground and salt the earth.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:10 p.m. CST

    "Clark, You Drivin' Me Crazy Right Now"

    by Van Damned

    Oh oh, oh oh , oh oh... ...hmmm. No. Fuck it. I give up. It's DC comic books only for me from now on, until WB gets an executive colonic.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:11 p.m. CST

    It's really quite simple

    by Macstone

    Let's not spend our money on it.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Is this info reliable?

    by Wormie

    This site has told us nothing about Batman: Intimidation, yet we all know it's happening and who's in it. Is this new casting news legit? Of course, Nic Cage was indeed signed on to play Supes with Tim Burton directing, but that never happened. Depp could be Luthor - he's a top thesp, but clearly only a fuckheaded fuckwit would think Beyonce is suitable for Lois. Warners should get a fucking clue and see that there is already a Superman series on TV right now. Smallville is really the only decent live-action incarnation of the Man of Steel since the Salkind films. I would love to see a great new Superman movie, and it shouldn't be too difficult to put a good screenplay together considering the character has been in print and other media for over 60 years, but after ten years Warners should maybe let another studio have a crack at the property.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:12 p.m. CST


    by Tenguman

    If this movie does end up like this, fuck it. I refuse to see it. We all should. Harry should band the geeks of the world together and show WB that they can't mess with a national icon like this. If ANYTHING, they should go ahead and end Smallville and have a movie with Welling going to Metropolis and becoming Superman (like the show's creators wanted to do). And, if they do make this movie, just change all the names and don't call it Superman. Then again, this movie's had so many rumors and close calls, I don't know what to believe anymore.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Oh, one more thing. Before some idiot calls me a rasist because

    by manwiththedogs

    ..let me say that I 100% agree with Harry on this one. LL needs an actress-not the latest pop-slut of the month-but a real live professional actress. No matter what color that actresses skin may happen to be. Peace.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:13 p.m. CST

    by ATARI

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:13 p.m. CST

    I don't think so......

    by Rapmaster C

    Say what you will about WB, but even they would not put Johnny Depp and Beyonce Knowles in those roles. I could be wrong, but I'll just believe it when I see it. Perhaps this guy was simply joking; it sure sounds like he was. Besides, these are probably just a few of the "rumoured" names that are signing up. Pure speculation.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Zooey as Lois IS a good pick..but I don't know if I buy this shi

    by Fatboy Roberts

    Not that I'm doubting Harry's source or anything, or that he even has one in the WB--I'm sure he does. but Superman has been REALLY quiet, and I seriously doubt Depp being picked up for Superman would have floated under EVERYONE'S rader so soon after all this critical acclaim for Pirates of the Caribbean. Plus the WB's being so heavy as to the Batman character, making sure he doesn't cross over on Smallville, moving Catwoman back to make sure it doesn't cast a bad light on Batman--I just don't see the same execs greenlighting Beyonce as Lois Lane. If anything, I see the execs just sitting there, taking their time, and pushing Millar and Gough to wrap up Smallville at the end of next season, start shooting then, waiting for that series finale to air, and then tagging the trailer at the end of that. They're obviously paying attention to that show if they think that the appearance of Bruce Wayne in a couple episodes is a danger to their Batman movie--enough to nix the idea and force the writers to change the Wayne character to a completely different, unrelated character. If they don't go Smallville with it, I'm not seeing them going Schumacher with it, either. Not anymore. Not looking at how they're handling Batman this time around. Catwoman seems to be an early regime one-off, dragging it's damaged feet for the past 3 or 4 years, so I'm not really counting that as something the current execs are really responsible for.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:17 p.m. CST

    This is ridiculous

    by trojanwilliams

    How about we all calm down and wait till an official announcement is made before we all have aneurysms. Since this project has been announced there have been 1001 rumors and everytime without fail people start freaking out. Rumors are just that rumors. Just because someone sees Beyonce walk into Warner Bros to read for a part and she impresses the producers doesn't mean whe is going to get the part.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:19 p.m. CST

    This is nothing! Apparently Mos Def has signed on to play Ford P

    by brokentusk

    Warner Bros. are complete monkeys.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:19 p.m. CST

    What? A sister can't be Lois Lane?

    by darthferris

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:23 p.m. CST

    I hope you RACISTS are BANNED from AICN....Why you gotta HATE?

    by aceattorney

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Next we'll hear...

    by Kid Z

    ... that this isn't the original Clark Kent/Kal-El Superman, but just one in a long line of Supermen. I ne, "hip-hop, urban, street" Superman with lotsa style and attitude! Ugh! Of course it's gonna blow Harry... it's from Warners!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Other Lois Lane choices? How about Maggie Gyllenhaal?

    by Lance Rock

    This all seems like rumor bullshit. Depp is smarter than that, he knows he's not right for Luthor.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:28 p.m. CST

    beyonce? but i thought that CLARK was supposed to be destiny's

    by keyserSOZE

    oh man, i apologize for the utter lameness of that joke...but i was struggling for a subject line... as for what a horrible, horrible choice if they go with it. i could live with blair, it'd stick with the margot kidder "not hot, but pretty attractive" lois (though i'd prefer the teri hatcher uber hot lois, myself)...and as much as i love johnny depp, he's really not lex...the main reason is this--he's not intimidating. not in the least. lex strikes me as someone who could intimidate you...i'll throw out a completely random idea that popped into my head for lex that will probably seem ridiculous to most people--arnold vosloo from the mummy movies...i mean really, for some reason i could see him working as lex...he's big, bald, and has a pretty indimidating voice, and he already knows how to be a bad guy in movies...random choice, i know, but i could see him working better than depp...

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:32 p.m. CST

    A sister CAN be Lois Lane...

    by oneragga

    ..provided she can...I don't know...ACT!!!!!!! Shit, Peter Parker could've been a bald brother for all I cared, at least the roudness of the mask would've made sense. Just put someone in with acting talent, who we can look at and believe she believes a man can fly. But Harry's right; they're making Superman, sponsored by the Do The Dew generation. What a crock o' shite.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:34 p.m. CST

    I think I speak for everyone when I say, THIS BLOWS!

    by Cerebud

    Beyonce was total CRAP in Austin Powers. And it wasn't much of a stretch for her! This is going to be bad. REAL BAD! God, why fuck with the BIBLE of SUPERHEROES!!?!?!?

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Aw, this movie'll never get made anyway.

    by rev_skarekroe

    Relax. sk

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:40 p.m. CST

    'Can You Read My Mind'..?! Maggie Gyllenhaal IS smart and sexy.

    by workshed

    Though we have to keep the 'Can You Read My Mind' bit... out-fuckin-standin'!!!

  • At least according to Dark Horizons...

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:44 p.m. CST

    J-Cochran, That You? OR... Re: aceattorney

    by jollydwarf

    "I hope you RACISTS are BANNED from AICN...Why you gotta hate?" That, Mr. Anderson, is the sound of...inevitability. Wow. Seriously, bush league statistical probability mathematicians and Vegas oddsmakers both independently predicted that that EXACT line would be posted here within 30 minutes of the first anti-Beyonce statement. Plus or minus five minutes, of course. Still, it IS amazing that a parrot can type. "Raawwwk! Racist fanboys! Raawwwk! Why you gotta hate! Raaawwwk!! If Blade were played by Johnny Depp, there'd be riots in the streets! Raaawwk! Dis parrot HATES crackas!"

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:46 p.m. CST

    I agree that it's ridiculous

    by Terry_1978

    Yeah, I'm black, and I think it's a travesty to even consider her for the role. She's just not Lois Lane, point blank. I feel like they're trying to pander to some demographic by making the DC heroines all black for some inane reason. If Black Panther, Blade, or Luke Cage were suddenly played by white guys, believe me, I'd be up in arms ready to crush Marvel's offices with my bare hands. But the character is a white reporter, always has been. Selma Blair needs to just be the one.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Obviously they can't fast track this movie.

    by Darksider

    Why doesn't Warner Bros. just run a poll to see who people want in these rolls and go from there? A movie like this is an exception and should be handled with care. DC characters have always been handled more like merchandise rather than characters from literature. Stop thinking about what you can sell with the movie and make a good quality movie FIRST and the rest WILL follow. Hell, ask the fans what they would like. What could it hurt? I mean come on, they killed off the second Robin with a poll.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Ok, as long as we're throwing everything we love about these cha

    by Macstone

    How about Jakie Chan as Clark. Dennis Rodman, instead of Beyonce, as Loise. Jenna Jameson as Jimmy Olsen. Gilbert Godfried as Lex Luthor. Stop making this a race issue. Don't hand me an apple and try to tell me it's an orange.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:52 p.m. CST

    And as far as the Beyonce casting...

    by Darksider

    Why don't we get a white guy to play Shaft or Blade? It just doesn't work and why would you want it to?

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:53 p.m. CST

    At least Lois Lane with have some decent T and A

    by guerillatokyo

    Selma Blair is built like a ten year old boy. She's not attractive, and is not a good actress. At least beyonce has a pair of tits.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Did anyone bother asking Johnny Depp about this?

    by JAGUART

    He's a smart man. I don't see him being interested in an insane project like this.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:56 p.m. CST

    So, the woman who said "I don't think you're ready for this jell

    by Han Ol' Buddy

    Is going to be one of the most recognizable icons in comic book history? WTF??!?!?

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:57 p.m. CST


    by AlgertMopper

    Depp is a good actor, but i dont see him as Luthor, i realy dont know who i see as him, but in know way do i see Depp as him, it just doesn't sit well with me

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Fools! There's no "superman" movie planned!

    by HammerMill

    They already made it. Im serious, check Blockbuster.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3 p.m. CST

    How about Freddie Prinze Jr as Shaft in Shaft II.

    by Retrace

    oh....wait....only whites have to be pc. sorry.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3 p.m. CST

    Dont you fucking dare

    by Dmann

    You cocksuckers! I fucking know youre reading this motherfuckers. If you fuck SUPERMAN up, not only will i personally take you out back and fistfuck both of your eyesockets, but i, harry, mori, nick, smilin jack and every other cool internet journalist will do whatever we can to make sure NO ONE PAYS YOU ONE CENT to see this fucking aborted fetus of a movie. I love superman, he is, was and always will be my favorite, I have the Big "S" shield etched into my skin in permanent ink, i have a nephew who thinks somehow I am superman, due to my penchant for wearing superman shirts, Bo Svenson himself actually complimented me on my Superman Hockey jersey. And I won't see the fucking movie. I wont rent it, i wont watch it on TBS, i will NEVER EVER EVER see THIS VERSION of THIS MOVIE, and i will make it my life's work to make sure no one else within earshot of me does, if you go forward like this. Do i make myself clear, I am threatening your security and financial wellbeing in way you fear worst, you dickless maggot suit! NO ONE WILL SEE IT, YOU WILL BE FIRED, SACKED, PUT OUT TO PASTURE! Remember that scene in Mary Poppins where the father was fired, and the boss fucked up his best hat, his umbrella, etc? Yeah, you better stock up on new hats, you assraping donkey fucker, because youre getting a big ol hand through your best bowler!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Will Smith IS.....

    by JAGUART

    The Sky Captain in your Nightmare World of Tomorrow. Better get used to this Boyz. Its the shade of things to come.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:08 p.m. CST

    And for you people that would like her to be black...

    by Cerebud

    stop it! Do you want Hellboy to be GREEN? These characters are ICONS of American literature. Is Tarzan black? Flash Gordon? Is Shaft WHITE? Or Blade? The creators had a vision when they created these characters. To change it just because some pop star wants to improve her career is outrageous. Since Beyonce is a pop star, this whole film will be seen as a total joke. Can't wait for the obligatory song and dance number. Like how they put Macy Gray in Spider-man. Crap!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:24 p.m. CST


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  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Johnny Depp is a fag, and Beyonce is a skank!

    by mbaker

    They are absolutely wrong for these parts!! Haven't these idiots at Warner Bros. learned anything?!? Michael Clark Duncan as Kingpin is one thing, but Beyonce as Lois is just flat out wrong! Johnny Depp is to faggy to play someone as cold, cunning, and intimidating as Lex!!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:25 p.m. CST

    This just in: ANDY DICK as SHAFT, thanks WB!

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:26 p.m. CST

    This just in, EMMANUEL LEWIS as HERCULES, thanks WB!!!

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:27 p.m. CST

    This just in, STEPHEN HAWKING as ROBIN, thanks WB!!!!

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:28 p.m. CST

    This just in, RICHARD SIMMONS as DIRTY HARRY CALLAHAN, thanks, W

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:28 p.m. CST

    This just in, CORKY as BRAINIAC...thanks WB!!!

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:29 p.m. CST

    This just in, CLAY AIKEN as JOHN RAMBO, thanks WB!!!

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:30 p.m. CST

    It's not that Beyonce is Black--and why Mos Def is a GOOD choice

    by Fatboy Roberts

    Whether Lois is black or not doesn't really matter--look at how everyone shit bricks over Lana Lang being cast as an Asian on "Smallville" and how she's pretty much COMPLETELY accepted now. It's the character that shines through. What I think most people are having a problem with is not the skin color (although there ARE people here who seem to really and truly NOT like anything black) is that Beyonce is not talented as far as acting goes. She's "sassy" and "spunky" or whatever, but it's paper thin. THAT'S most of the problem with it. This isn't really comparable to Michael Clarke Duncan as Kingpin--he HAD the weight to pull that off, literally and figuratively--and his performance ended up being generally well recieved, even if the movie was mostly a shitfest--and the same will prove true with Mos Def: That man can actually ACT. He's pretty much completely stopped any recording career he had, since his one(and only) solo album came out, and has since done nothing but act in plays, take supporting roles in movies, and generally work full time on his craft. And he was good at it BEFORE he started seriously studying it. He can play that role. Easily. The difference between him tackling that role and Beyonce tackling Lois Lane (Which is probably not even really happening) is a difference of TALENT. I don't think the skin color factors in as much as people are thinking--but let's not be as naive as to believe it's not factoring in at all.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:31 p.m. CST

    This just in, RUPAUL as DENNIS THE MENACE, thanks WB!!!

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:31 p.m. CST

    This just in, PEE WEE HERMAN as ROCKY BALBOA, thanks WB!!!

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:33 p.m. CST

    This just in, HOWARD STERN'S BEETLEJUICE as DOOMSDAY, thanks WB!

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:34 p.m. CST

    This just in, NANCY REAGAN as WONDER WOMAN, thanks WB!!!!

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:35 p.m. CST

    This just in, LUCY LU as JIMMY OLSEN, thanks WB!!!!

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Like many of you, I too have moved from "This is an outrage" cam

    by Village Idiot

    Needless to say, I'll still be going out of my way to avoid it.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:39 p.m. CST

    This just in, STAR JONES as LOIS LANE, thanks WB!!!

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Like many of you, I too have moved from "This is an outrage" cam

    by Village Idiot

    Needless to say, I'll still be going out of my way to avoid it.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:53 p.m. CST

    This just in, OUTKAST and THE JUSTICE LEAGUE, thanks WB....and H

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:59 p.m. CST

    This is a retro attempt at saving face, because this will make B

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 4:06 p.m. CST

    This just in, OUTKAST as THE JUSTICE LEAGUE, thanks WB....and HE

    by Cletus Van Damme

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 4:07 p.m. CST

    you guys should have seen this coming after Michael Clarke Dunca

    by Glen Quagmire

    Beyonce Knowles as Lois Lane! Well Crap! why the HELL not? Why not Denzel Washington as James Bond?! Why not Nicholas Cage as Luke Cage? Why not Will Smith as The Flash? Why not Aaron Eckhart as The Black Panther? Why not Kelly Rowland as The White Queen? ... Why not? As long as Beyonce shows off her chocolate gams ... I won't complain. Giggity Giggity Giggity!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 4:16 p.m. CST

    lois lane is white

    by cockknocker

    so why the hell hire a black actress, what would the response be if some white guy played blade huh huh? Whats the fucking problem with staying true to the fucking comic book. If someone at wb wants to make statement hire fucking spike lee and let him make a movie for you. Stupid stupid.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 4:17 p.m. CST

    They are only showing us the door, we have to walk through it ..

    by Silver_Joo

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Hey! This saves me money!

    by Trik

    I think they're still going with the hideous script, where Lex is a CIA man that turns out to be a kryptonian enemy of Kal-el's family. So I won't be seeing this stupid movie anyway. If movie makers want to change things so far from established mythos, they should just invent a new char and give it the background they want. A comic maker did it a few years back with Supreme. It was a good char until they turned him into a religious fanatic.

  • remember when we had to do that?

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 4:24 p.m. CST

    "?" (a blank stare into the screen)

    by Lost Skeleton

    Ok, I'm a good ole Black man who is in love with a Nubian princess with locked hair who votes Democrat (Go Edwards!) I love hip hop and R&B and I can speak ebonics with the best of them.....however....Halle Berry was and is completly WRONG for Catwoman (or what ever the fuck they are filming) and Beyonce Knowles IS FUCKING WRONG AS LOIS LANE!!! Let's not beat around the bush, Louis is a white brunette! (See, Margott Kidder in the 70's) Plus, Beyonce cannot act. If you are going to get a Black actress to play Louis, at least get a real actress like Gabielle Union, Sanaa Latham or Katlina Smith (Bernie Mac's wife on the Bernie Mack show- who actually looks like a Black version of Louis Lane) But this is goddam stupid. Brittany Spears wouls also be terrible because she can't act! What happended to Natalie Portman- she was great. Selma Blair would be great. Hell, Rose McGowan would be great! But fucking Beyonce! And another thing...Johnny is my boy but he is completely wrong as Lex. Lex should be a bald headed cold corporate bastard...not Depp. McG and Peters have lost their damn minds. Warner needs to be burned to the fucking grounds for this shit! Well, at least Marvel and Sony gets it right "2" 7/4/04

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 4:26 p.m. CST

    I don't have a problem with Depp as Lex Luthor, it's WHY they wa

    by Hobbitastic

    Though a bunch of other actors come to mind as better casting choices than Depp, I think he would do a fine job as Luthor. He's one of those actors that can play just about anything. But the problem is that he's being cast because, and ONLY because, of Pirates of the Caribbean. Had that movie not made $300 million, we'd be sitting here asking why Hugh Jackman was cast as Luthor. That's my problem with the idea of Depp as Luthor. They're trying to make lightning strike twice instead of picking the right person, which is a pretty big nail in the coffin of a good Superman movie to me, IMHO. And as far as Beyonce goes, I liked her in Goldmember and I think she gets a bad rap as an actress (she's better than Britney, hands down, and actually has some grasp of comedic timing) but they're putting her in the wrong superhero movie; they should get rid of Halle Berry and make Beyonce the new Storm in X3. Discuss.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 5:22 p.m. CST

    My god, the depths to which WB can sink is staggering.

    by Manaqua

    Beyonce fucking Knowles? This has got to be a joke. Looks like the bubble is about to burst folks. Between this and that abomination of a 'film' catwoman, this is shaping up to be the one-two punch that finally knocks the comic flicks on their asses for good. Who the fuck thinks this shit up!? Its infuriating. We ned some good independant filmmaker to make a kick ass comic adaptation free from the big studio meddling. M

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Whorehoppers! the lot of them

    by UncleScrewtape

    They are only in it for the buck Superman is a money property. Warners needs to make the dough back on the loss they are gonna take on catwoman. i would very much like it to be good but it just looks bad from the get go (as does Punisher but it aint running north of 100 mil). LXG looked bad from the onset. so my question is this, is this a suprise to anyone? they cast the most recent "hot" chick and academy award winner in Catwoman. for no other reason than to bankroll her star power into a huge opening weekend. Superman is no different, They are all whorehoppers. did they learn nothing from Bryan Singers X-men & X2. Is it really that difficult to stick to the basic plots that have been outlined in the comics they are making movies out of? Oh and if i have sit through another origin story for batman i'm boycotting all the films by Warners

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Alright Harry, time to step up!

    by halcyonseven

    I think I speak for most everyone when I say I will glady sign a petition that is backed by Mr. Harry Knowles! Time to throw that figurative weight around buddy. Lets Rollerball this bitch!!!!!!!!!!! I know WB will listen Harry, if we get enought of us to let them know. We can stop this. We have too. Please Harry as a kid that loved superman I beg you to help.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 5:59 p.m. CST


    by FloydGandoli

    Seriously, folks, why not just boycott this horseshit???? The net gives a perfect forum for organizing a movement to not see a film on its opening weekend (or at all). Why doesn't everybody stay home from Catwoman in July? Many will see it in the same manner in which we slow down to look at car wrecks. I say no! Hit these assholes where it hurts: the boxoffice.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Waners and Harry Potter

    by FloydGandoli

    Warners wasn't able to fuck up Harry Potter because the Potter franchise has an 800 pound gorilla named JK Rowling gaurding it. She retained enormous creative control over the property and vetoed stupid ideas like Haley Joel Osment as Harry. If anything, the mistake the Potter films have made so far is being too safe in their translation to film. Alfonso should fix that and Potter 3 should be the best yet. Superman has no such gorilla looking out for it. Instead a bunch of idiots has hired a bunch of morons to make this film. Warners desperately needs to find a Sam Raimi for this one. McG, sir, you are no Sam Raimi.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 6:06 p.m. CST

    If this is true then it's official, HOWARD THE DUCK OWNS SUPERMA

    by JethroBodine

    Joan Rivers would make a better Lois Lane! I SWEAR! STOP THE WORLD, I WANNA GET OFF!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 6:24 p.m. CST


    by Rcamacho2278

    what the fuck is up with Warner Bros?? They change the WB to all these black shows, can they make it anymore obvious that they are single handedly trying to move the movement forward. Now casting Beyonce as fucken lois Lane. okay, I get it, Im not saying black people shouldnt play roles originally made for white people, hell The green lantern kicks so much ass NOW that hes black, BUT thats not the fucken point. shes NOT lois lane...Ashton Kutcher is not superman, I dont care how many fucken special effects they add to this film... Smallville is already doing the job of setting the origin of Superman, even tho many hate the show cuz of its soap opera style, still remove all that and you got a real good origin story in smallville, why not just carry that to the big screen. I agree with everyone, Petition this shit film. It's about time hollywood suffers from us, the people who supposedly pay for the sound man, the camera man, the actors, all those other fuckers bitching about piracy, WE are THE FUCKEN FANS, WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY in HOW THE MOVIE GETS MADE. just like romero is having help in his next film. START a petition, its time for us to take control...

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Why would Johnny Depp do this movie? He could barely stand Pirat

    by SexyBeast

    If you watch Pirates of the Cariabean, it is obvious Johnny Depp is totally bored and uninterested in the movie, he does such an outrageous job just so he can maintain a semblance of effort. Why on Earth would he subject himself to Superman?! As for Beyonce Knowles, she could be good. First of she is HOT HOT HOT. Second of she can sing some of the songs for the movie. Lastly, she can't act which means audiences won't be subjected to alot of Lois Lane dialogue, which means more screentime for Supes

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Every time I tell myself, "Naww, there's noway this is happening

    by waylayer

    I remember the AWESOME casting work that was done for the last two Batman films. Then I throw up. **

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Now, Lets take this idea further...

    by slipalong

    While we're at it, why don't we make Shaft a middle class white guy? Let's 're-imagine' the Balde franchise, start from scratch and make him a white Librarian from Sheffield?? I admit, some icons are bigger than race and creed but YOU DO NOT MESS WITH SUPERMAN IN ANY GODDAMN WAY. And it's the same for the supporting characters. They all come under the Superman mythos. Yes, with movies, you have to take certain liberties to make things work and most times you'll be forgiven for it (organic webshooters anyone??) But by changing Lois' ethnic background, you change part of what makes the character tick, and Betonce? Please, she might be able to sing her arse of and look great but the girl CANNOT ACT FOR spare change. 20 years from now, people will wonder why the Lois in the comics is nothing like the Lois in the movie. The 2 won't synch on any level. Why bother making the film at all? Anyone remember that PUNISHER movie starring Dolph Lundgren a few years ago that had sod all to do with the comic??? No? Well that@s going to be the same response when you ask about SUPERMAN in the future

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Please help in telling Mattel that the He-Man line designed by t

    by Declan_Swartz

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 6:32 p.m. CST

    I love when everyone starts posting their own dream casting scen

    by Charles Grady

    Ever occur to any of you that maybe these actors/actresses wouldn't WANT to be in a Superman movie? Just because a Zooey Deschanel or Maggie Gyllenhal or Michael Chiklis bears some passing resemblance to your idea of the character doesn't mean they're jumping up and down, champing at the bit to hack themselves out for a comic book franchise that could tarnish their credibility for the duration of their career.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 6:39 p.m. CST

    This can't be for real

    by Rupee88

    I don't think they'd do anything this crazy/stupid, but you never know with the Hollywood suits. Johnny Depp is a great actor, but he's too young to play Lex Luthor and just doesn't look the part. But Michael Keaton didn't look the part to play Batman, and even though he sucked ass in the role like everyone knew he would, the movie still made hundreds of millions of $$$s. CGI will probably sell Superman, despite how they fuck up the story and characters.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 6:44 p.m. CST

    How about Maggie Gyllenhal as Lois Lane and Jake Gyllenhal as Su

    by microwavable?

    i'd pay ten bucks to see THAT romance unfold. eww.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 6:44 p.m. CST

    Superman finna help she get hur gas cut back on.

    by JethroBodine

    Lois Lane with a Blaccent! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! She finna be a ledgit style reporter for EBONY Magazine! Shake your tailfetha....right thurrrrrr!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 6:51 p.m. CST

    And they wonder why people download movies insted of paying for

    by JethroBodine

    It's because of stupid stuff like this. Hollywood has turned into Follywood!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:05 p.m. CST

    by JethroBodine

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:14 p.m. CST


    by stlfilmwire

    I have checked out hundreds of actresses. SHE IS THE PERFECT BLEND of talent, beauty, and attitude. She was in DysEnchanted at Sundance. Check her out!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:18 p.m. CST

    We know who behind this crap, Jon Peters

    by Norm3

    Just ask Kevin Smith!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Hey Harry, remember that "Jim Carrey is Brainiac" graphic you di

    by CKnightShift

    The variant of the Ace Ventura poster, with Carrey all bald and green. Back when Carrey was supposed to be REALLY considered for the Brainiac role? I've still got that pic on my hard drive :-)

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:20 p.m. CST


    by JDanielP

    This is the most ridiculous news I've ever read here at "aintitcool", where many times the news just isn't so cool. I'd like to go and on about what Warner Bros. should do. But with news THIS ridiculous, what's the point? If they can be THIS far off track, ... then I'm not "wasting my breath."

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:32 p.m. CST

    That doll is hot.

    by ZeedarTeretz

    Such curves. Why do I always find myself attracted to maniquinns?

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:33 p.m. CST

    wow, something worse than Kutcher.

    by mwhelan67

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Linda Fiorentino.

    by manwiththedogs

    Think about it.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:39 p.m. CST


    by TheSecondEvil

    I feel like smashing my head into the monitor at even the idea of Beyonce playing Lois Lane, she cannot act. Depp on the other hand would be magnificent as Lex.

  • this is the worst casting i've ever witnessed

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Time for WB to change their name to Miracle. As the slogan goes

    by Rolling_Stone

    That's why I download movies. Because dumbfucks in Hollywood get paid millions for shit like this.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:48 p.m. CST


    by Barron34

    I will not pay one dime to see a movie where Beyonce "plays" Lois Lane. Not one red cent. Beyonce is cute and hot and all, but she is no actress and she is no Lois Lane. I urge everyone Superman fan here at AICN and worldwide to join me in a complete and total BOYCOTT of this movie unless they cast it properly and put control of the film in the hands of a competent director (that would NOT be "McG"). I will not buy a ticket to see this movie, I will not buy or rent a DVD of it, I will not even watch the goddamned thing on cable. The studios have to learn to treat these beloved properties and icons with the respect they deserve, and to stop pissing on them and their fans for a quick buck. Fans need to enforce this respect by not paying one red cent of their money to go see a movie that does not treat them and their favorite characters with a modicum of respect. When reheated junk like BATMAN AND ROBIN can still make money for a studio regardless of how awful a film it is, there is no incentive for the studio to make something that respects the fans and the properties. Another example is the MATRIX series. I very much liked the first movie, went to the first sequel and found it to be a self-indulgent, navel-gazing, pseudo-philosophical mess that indulged the filmmakers and disregarded the audience (you might disagree; different viewers have different experiences). Once I saw that film, I vowed not to see the next sequel (MATRIX REVOLUTIONS). I have so far never seen the film, never rented it, etc. The only possible way I would see that movie is if a friend had it and let me watch it for free, and even then I am not too sure I would waste my time with it. My point is that BOYCOTTS can work, and only require a little self-discipline and effort on the part of fans (SUPERMAN fans, in this case). I will NEVER go to see a movie that dares to (mis)cast Beyonce Knowles as Lois Lane, and I mean that for real. We need to go beyond personal and individual boycotting to large-scale, fan-organized boycotts. I'd even be willing to picket or demonstrate outside of the theatres if (or when) they release this insulting turkey, just to get some media attention and to send a message to Warners. That message would essentially be: treat these iconic characters and their fans with respect, and only put creative people in charge of these projects who know and care about the characters, otherwise we will boycott your damned films and you will lose money and future audiences. Who's with me?

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:48 p.m. CST

    While I admit Depp is a great actor

    by zer0cool2k2

    He's just not the right physical presence for Lex Luthor. This is just sounding worse and worse. Somebody's gonna' hafta' fly backwards around the planet really fast and make this whole thing go away.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Paris Hilton for Lois Lane!

    by user id indeed!

    Or Steve Irwin's baby! Or the song "Hey Ya!"

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Playing the race card

    by deadboy1313

    What if they cast Ashton Kutcher as Martin Luther King Jr? I'm sick of hearing all this race crap. Michael Clarke Duncan was great as Kingpin. It didn't matter to me that he was black. He fit that role and made it his own. Will I see a Catwoman movie with Halle Berry? Hell no!!!!! Not because she is black, but because the character is not Selina Kyle. It's more of WB's mutating a character beyond recognition. And as far as Beyonce goes, forget Superman. Hell, I forgot about it a long time ago. I knew that WB would screw this up long before they started casting. They don't have the respect for the history of the characters that Marvel has. Anyone remember Batman and Robin? I'm trying to forget it even existed. I'm sure by the time this is all over Clark Kent will be portrayed as a gay Mexican nazi from the planet Pop-tart.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:55 p.m. CST

    I think this is a sign from god not to make a Superman movie....

    by Archduke_Chocula

    Seriously, what the fuck are they thinking?

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Chris Rock as Jimmy Olsen

    by vekt0r

    I think I remember that one from a few years back.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Depp could do Luthor because I firmly believe the man can do ANY

    by Tall_Boy

    But BEYONCE FUCKIN KNOWLES?!! God lord I hate that woman. This guy HAD to have been pulling harry's leg.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Neve Campbell And Others

    by Barron34

    I have for a longtime been suggesting that Neve Campbell woul dbe a great choice for Lois Lane, so I certainly agree with other talkbackers who are suggesting her. Neve has the right look, can act, is neither too young nor too old, is fairly well-known from the SCREAM movies, but is not so big that she would cost the studio an arm and a leg to hire. She would make a perfectly decent Lois Lane, and could be signed up for optional sequels at a decent price. But, casting is just the beginning of the problem. Even if they DO cast the right people, they need to have the right creative people in charge, from Producers to Writers to the Director. JJ Abrams script was crap, McG is a flashy hack that must be kept away from this film and this character (Superman), and Peters has proven time and time again that he does not understand the valubale comic book characters that Warners controls (Batman, Superman, etc). This doesn't make them bad people, but ask yourself: if you were a studio executive, would you hire a Producer, Writer, or Director to work on a football-themed movie if they weren't football fans? No, of course not. If you are going to make a football moive, hire creative people who are both fans and who are skilled and experienced creative types. And, if you yourself know nothing about football, hire someone who DOES know about football and recuse yourself from direct involvement in the project and let the football fan creatives do their work without interference. The same thing applies with comic book characters and superhero movies. Get someone who understands superhero comics to do these films. Bad casting is just the first hurdle, and even the right casting won't work without the right script and the right director and creative team. Get the right team, otherwise you are just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, which is quite apparent that is what has been going on with this property for years.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Sucky casting

    by uberfly

    They need to look at the recent blockbusters that were based on MARVEL superheros. XMEN / Spiderman/ Daredevil / The Hulk. These movies were cast with acters that resemble the comic book caracters. This is what the fans like and that is what makes a great movie. Wake up Warner and get a clue. Do not screw up the DC characters.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:03 p.m. CST

    by LordKroft82

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:11 p.m. CST


    by LordKroft82


  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Depp wouldn't necessarily be bad for Luthor; and someone's sugge

    by Demosthenes2

    Just because Johnny Depp's last performance was a tongue-in-cheek goofy role doesn't mean that all his performances have been. Far from it. He can definitely do the cold, calculating Luthor. I don't get why it's so offensive to have a black woman play Lois. She's white in the comics; alright, so? BFD. The comics also began in the 1940s right? They aren't going to set the film in 1940s. We are living in a different age with different politics. Changes are inevitable in a film adaptation, and it's better that they be superficial ones like this than major narrative ones. That being said, I'm not sure about Beyonce's acting talents; her resume is too short to judge at this point, though. But, if we really need a Lois who can perfectly match the original Lois look, Maggie Gyllenhaal would be perfect (especially when remembering that hairnet look in Secretary).

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:18 p.m. CST

    This just in, RAVEN SYMONE as SUPERGIRL, thanks WB!!

    by mbaker

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:20 p.m. CST

    This just in, SHAI LEBEOUF as LOBO, Tthanks WB!!!

    by mbaker

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:21 p.m. CST

    This just in, ASHTON KUTCHER as SOLOMEN GRUNDY, thanks WB!!

    by mbaker

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:23 p.m. CST

    This just in, BRAD PITT as SWAMP THING, thanks WB!!

    by mbaker

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:25 p.m. CST

    Will You Phucking closet racists shut the hell up, Beyonce is NO

    by The Founder

    this is nothing more then a rumor. WB is not going to cast beyonce as Lois, trust me. I wouldn't mind beyonce having a role in the film, cause she's a decent enough actress, an a nice girl to boot, but WB is not going to totally change Lois Lane to a black woman. My take on this whole mix up is that Beyonce probably will be taking a small part in the film, or some suit knows she's hot right now, and want to give her a part in the film. Some jerk more then likly got shyt mixed uped, and is putting this out there as gospel, calm down GEEKS, Beyonce will not be cast as Lois. Now on the whole Jhonny Depp as Luthor isn't a bad thing. i have to admit i have to wrap my brain aroud the idea, but people need to remember that Depp is damn talented, and can transform himself to a variety of parts. From the Pirate to the evil character he played in Astronuts Wife, to Ed Wood, the man is talented, I know he can pull off Luthor with no problem. I personally don't believe it until i hear it's official, but Depp is fime by me.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:26 p.m. CST

    At least we have the comics...

    by paddington

    Brian Azzarello and Jim Lee doing a year long stint on Superman... that's good comic making there... I think that I'm gonna be avoiding comic book movies until Nolan's Batman is released though.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:27 p.m. CST

    This just in, HULK HOGAN as AQUAMAN, thanks WB!!

    by mbaker

    I talk to the fishies, BROTHER!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Must they pervert such a movie with great potential?

    by tango fett

    Don't get me wrong, I like both Depp and Beyonce, not to mention Beyonce is quite hot. But she JUST ISN'T LOIS LANE! Depp COULD be Lex, in truth I really don't know because I haven't followed the Superman saga as close as I could. It would kinda seem awkward as 2 superhero characters, but I'd have Patrick Stewart as Lex. Of course Halle Berry is the exception (I am so anxious to see the Catwoman trailer on Sunday so I can laugh at it then go to my vomitorium for an hour). Can't wait for Batman. Ah well, if the Supes movie blows, then I will just watch the Matrix movies. Because they may be the best modern Superman movies yet. Is Butterfly Effect any good? Or is Ashton Kutcher a good serious actor? Fill me in.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:38 p.m. CST

    We just shouldn't see it

    by UberSpectre

    If this somehow does get made no one should go see it, no one should even go just for the laughs. That is how you fight back against bs movies, don't go see it

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:39 p.m. CST

    And, it's that big of deal

    by earl

    First of all you call Selma Blair a dramatic actress. Excuse me but what in the hell have you been watching? Was it Cruel Intentions? She's cute, she's brunette, but a talented dramatic actress she is not. On the other hand Johnny Depp is a talented actor, and a talented actor plays the part that he is suppose to and Depp can and will bring a grat character to LEX.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:40 p.m. CST

    SORRY, GUYS...

    by Weasel

    ...but I think someone is yanking us on this whole Beyonce as Lois thing. I don't care how coked-up WB executives are, no one in their right mind - no matter how how high they are - would cast Beyonce Knowles as Lois Lane. It's a joke, so don't stress it. Also, when we fanboys indulge in our favorite game of "Who Would We Cast for Lex Luthor" I notice that not once has Michael Rosenbaum's name been dropped into the mix. Rosenbaum has done a superlative job of creating the definitive Lex Luthor on WB's "Smallville." Rosenbaum's Luthor is sharp, charismatic and, perhaps most importantly, sympathetic. Here's a character trying to avoid destiny's gravitational pull, but no matter how hard he tries, he simply can't avoid his ultimate fate as Clark's arch-nemesis. Don't get me wrong, guys, Johnny Depp is also a brilliant actor, but why would the WB cast about for another actor when they have young Mr. Rosenbaum at their fingertips. Strange.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Don't blame Depp and Miss Bootylicious, they probably have no id

    by Terry_1978

    Some moron suggested their names, and it's probably unlikely they'll even bring this suggestion to light.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:46 p.m. CST

    If they're gonna diversify the cast, does this mean that the Gay

    by FrankDrebin

    I try to be color-blind when it comes to casting, but Beyonce is to glam for an investigative reporter. I've always pictued Lois Lane as a 1940's noirish "dame" with square, padded shoulders and an all-business attitude. Beyonce would be an excellent moll for Luthor ("MISS TESCHMACHER!!!").

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Supes has a beer, and cheats on Lois

    by mbaker

    You knew that was coming!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:53 p.m. CST


    by SimpsonsQuoteMan

    this all reminds me of that scene in "LA story" when steve martin talks to the road sign. except the road sign symbolises SOCIETY!!! GET YOUR HEAD AROUND THAT ONE WOOOOOOOOO

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Perry White


    If they must change the race of a character, why not Perry White, I would love to see John Amos with a stogie, howling mad at Clark about something. Lex Luthor needs to be an older actor with some gravitas, like Robert DeNiro.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:24 p.m. CST

    I'm just too weary....

    by Johnny Ahab

    Just last week I was flaming angry on the Catwoman talkback. Now I'm just too tired and disgusted. On second thought, I think I can work up some high dudgeon. WHO THE FUCK IS IN CHARGE AT WB, A SYPHLITIC CHIMP??? Will Superman's outfit be black leather and backless? Will the "S" be tattooed on his bare chest?? Fuck you all, you stupid Hollywood development fuckheads turds. Writers Guild, BRING ON THE FUCKING STRIKE AND PUT THESE FUCKERS OUT OF JOBS!!!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:24 p.m. CST

    I agree MrSmith

    by Pslanc

    If you're going to be stupid, be all the way stupid, nothalf-way stupid.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:25 p.m. CST

    I'd rather see HARRY as Lois Lane than Beyonce.

    by DOGSOUP

    ....but then again I could give two shits and a fuck either way since they can't PAY me to see this movie. I would rather get cyberoptical eyes that play Paycheck over and over again than see this. Of course my lifespan would be incredibly short considering about 30 minutes into the first screening in my head I would gouge out my intestines with a baby spoon. Fuck Superman. Fuck Catwoman. Fuck Constantine. It's time to fucking read a book.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Don't believe everything you read

    by Billuism

    I sincerely doubt that anything here turns out to be true. There's no way they are considering having Beyonce play Lane, nor is Depp considering even being in the movie (nor do I think they wanted him). This all sounds like run of the mill bullshit, that is getting spread as fact, because so-so heard from so-so that someone might be thinking about possibly doing something like maybe........

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:28 p.m. CST

    This just in!!! Al Roker as The Flash!!!

    by Aphex Twin

    Hey, he got into shape right??

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Can't We Fukkin Protest this Shite somehow!!??

    by duo11

    What the fukkin hell? people like fukkin beyoncee or what ever the fuck, used to talk shit about me reading superman comics when i was in school, and now they are invading our fukkin movie!!?? Where does it Fukkin end!!!?? We've got to pool together and figure out a way to protest this!!! and i need all of your help. If anyones with me and have got some ideas on how to fight back, e-mail me at must put a stop to the fukkin madness!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:32 p.m. CST

    They must be joking or TRYING to kill all buzz for Superman, thu

    by riskebiz

    Beyonce for Lois Lane? It really must be a joke, because otherwise they are courting disaster of Catwoman like preportions. I can't believe they are actually serious. Jason Isaacs would be an ideal Lex Luthor. Johnny Depp? I'd much rather him Clark Kent/Superman than Lex Luthor ... though I do like that guy from The Ring and Torque as Superman. In the still pics of him, I can see an Alex Ross'ish Superman based on his features. He sort of looks like the face that Ross uses for his photo reference. Anyway, I bet Depp could pull off Superman if he needed too. I wouldn't want to put him in that position, but he'd probably step up to the plate and give it his best shot.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:32 p.m. CST

    absolutely wrong cast

    by RPG

    I'm hoping this is NOT true. Beyonce Knowles is not a good actress to begin with. Let's stick to the real SUPERMAN movie not some alternate - new age - SUPERMAN movie. I can think of 100's of better actresses that would do a better job than Beyonce Knowles. How about that Crossing Jordan lady... Jill Hennessy! Now, about Johnny Depp??? Hmmm...not sure about Johnny D. What about Capt. Picard or seriously a bald Chris Penn.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:34 p.m. CST

    I haven't posted in months.

    by Azlam Orlandu

    But this was enough to awaken my slumber. If I were Harry I wouldn't even have posted this, truth or not. Your site is less cool than it was before you told us about Beyonce. Now don't get me wrong, I have no problem with a sister being Lois Lane, but Harry is right and this is a bunch of pop crap. Put a real happenin' quality acting sister in the role and hey, I'll try anything, but please not Beyonce, only few who have collections of DC Superman comics will buy that Beyonce is Lois Lane, the rest of them will only see your movie once before they return here to talk about how crappy it was, don't subject the franchise to the pits of fanboy wrath. I happen to like Depp a lot, but I'm sorry if he's overused. Willy Wonka, cool. Captain Jack Sparrow, cool. Hell, he's the only one who made Once Upon a Time in Mexico worth watching, but enough is enough. They might as well cast Jet Li as Superman, hell I love his movies and he's cool. That's just the point I guess. Sorry folks, but this is going to stink as is, Depp or not. Jude Law as Supes! Plastic, bright, sharp, and colorful, larger than life, the way it should be, and no sadboy-brooding Supes, he's not the Crow. My two cents. Sorry, but if you want to hear more you'll have to throw me some more bait.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:37 p.m. CST

    This is about as stupid as having Anthony Anderson as Boss Hogg.

    by Mr. Little-Jeans

    Hey I'm all for equal opportunity in movies but lets be serious. Does this mean we can get Josh Hartnett to play Al Simmons in the next Spawn movie?

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:38 p.m. CST

    They should wait for Smallville to finish in a year or so.

    by riskebiz

    I suspect Smallville has about two more years in it and then they should just take that cast and do a Superman movie. By the time Smallville ends, Nolan's Batman will be released and it'll make much more sense to do Superman then. Amazing they can't get this puppy off the ground, though. Jon Peter's IN ACTION . Classic Jon Peters. Why is it that only he can produce this Superman movie? Because he's been screwing it up for years!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:46 p.m. CST


    by wingnut

    Hey how about Jim Carrey as Supes Jeff Daniels as Lex, and we can call it Dumd and Dumberest.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:58 p.m. CST


    by ZO

    this guy is fucking with harry for his own shits and giggles

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 10:02 p.m. CST

    I'm not 100 percent dead set against a black Lois...

    by Batutta

    ...but for god sakes, at least have it be a black woman who can act. I'd rather see J Lo play the fucking part.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Everything about this film is WRONG!!!

    by tile_mcgillus

    I haven't heard one positive thing about this atrocity from the get go. Pack it up and put it away for a few more years. Maybe then someone with some sense will get a hold of this thing. If I have said it once..........stay true to the source material! Superman's success has alot to do with the STORY and the CHARACTERS! Have these morons ever read a Superman comic in their life? All these changes and it won't even be Superman anymore. A lanky goofy Ashton Kutcher doing battle with the over the top drama queen Johnny Depp and falling in love with the bootylicious bad acting Beyonce Knowles? Somehow this doesn't sound like Superman!!!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 10:13 p.m. CST



    to know that Beyonce Knowles will suck as Lois Lane. Besides them totally fucking up the mythology, Selma Blair is fine (albeit not as fine as Beyonce) and obviously a better actress...not a pop star turned "actress". I love Beyonce but yeah fuck her and Johnny Depp, they so don't fit those parts. Maybe those fucks will wise up before this shit goes into production. I love Superman and would really love to see a good movie without the side of cheese...let's keep our fingers crossed.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Not racist

    by IceMonkey

    For everyone who thinks it's racist to say that a black woman can't play Lois Lane, think about this. What if they next said Woody Harrelson was playing Dr. Martin Luther King, JR.? Would that be ok? Or is it just because Lois is fictional that it's ok to screw with 70 years of history and everyone's preconceived image of Lois Lane? So would it be alright to cast Luke Cage as a white guy? How about The Rock as the Black Panther? Lois is white. It's not racist, it's just the way it is.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 10:28 p.m. CST

    For all intents and purposes, Superman is a square and should no

    by NFLRefugee

    Not that doesn't make Supes cool. A new Supes movie would be fantastic if done right. I think Depp is inspired casting for Luthor. Great idea. I don't think he would do it, but its not a bad idea.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 10:36 p.m. CST

    I just want to fuck Beyonce in the ass and have her call me Jigg

    by tequilaworm

    Jigga What? Jigga Who?.........S P L A S H!!!! all over her face...CHEERS Amigos!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 10:45 p.m. CST

    My few cents

    by DyslexicHeart

    I keep on sticking with my argument that with "Smallville"(I'm a fan) you not only get a fitting actor to play Supes in Tom Welling(how perfect did he look wearing those glasses last week) but you also get incredible performances of Jonathan and Martha Kent(John Schnieder and Anette O'Toole), Lex Luthor(Michael Rosenbaum) and Perry White(Michael McKeon). Whether or not Smallville ever actually casts an actress to play Lois Lane remains to be seen but I'm sure with thier track record they'll choose smartly. And I think this all really points to the fact that DC Comics shouldn't be trying to have an arms race with Marvel for big screen success because DC has done very well with small screen work like "Smallville", "Batman:The Animated Series" and "Justice League".

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 10:51 p.m. CST


    by Dataset

    Dear disconnected Warner Brothers execs. Put down that coke for a few minutes, and listen up. You've set this up like if we disagree with the black singer chick we're racist... Fuck that. I can see a black Kingpin... Daredevil, pre and post Miller, was a B-level comic unknown outside of geekdom. But SUPERMAN?!?! Jeebus Flunkin' Christcakes!!! WTF??? Depp,s cool... But Luthor? No. I don't watch Smallville that much anymore, but when I do catch it, I'm surprisingly entertained. Don't make this movie...Wait for Smallville to end and continue on the big screen... Oh yeah...I know you're mad because everyone is shitting on your Catwoman movie, which nobody has seen. I will reserve my judgement until it opens. It sounds like utter diaper shit, and you all should be very ashamed this poop got brownlighted. Thank you all for Bugs Bunny. Good day, gentlemen.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 10:53 p.m. CST


    by Harker8

    Ok, Neve CANNOT be Lois Lane. Firstly, while she can kind of act, like all of the other cast members of PARTY OF FIVE, whenever she tries to act emotional every word that comes out sounds like she's out of breath. I kid you not- its as much a habit as Harrison Ford stumbling his way through a action scene and pointing at the bad guy with the FINGER OF DOOM on his right hand. Superman is dead meat.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 10:54 p.m. CST

    by Thunderclese87

    I think that is Beyonce wants a role in any d.c comic book film it should be a small mercy maybe?

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Two possibilities come to mind.

    by DragonHeart

    1) That some suit is doing an informal survey, testing what audience reaction would be to the whole "Beyonce'-As-Lois" concept, in which case, add my voice to the 'Are you out of your fucking mind!?!?!?!!!!" crowd, and; 2) This has already been green-lit, in which case add my voice to the "This is gonna suck crusty ass and and I wouldn't use the dvd for a coaster." crowd.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 11:13 p.m. CST

    (snicker)... BWA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!

    by SpacePhil

    I'm sorry -- I know everyone takes this seriously -- but think for a second -- what kind of numbskull at the WB comes up with this shit? What kind of numbskull... God, you just have to laugh. It's becoming pretty clear that the only thing keeping Time-Warner afloat these days in the entertainment department is New Line and the Harry Potter movies. This is so goddamn pathetic it's hilarious.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Big Pimpin' Double-U-Bee

    by DonMagicWan

    I applaud the studio for jumping out on a limb...but$%@%#%!!!!!!!!! Beyonce!?!? She's a terrible actress with a sexy voice (see Austin Powers 3). If they were planning on changing Lois Lane's ethnicity, they could have cast a quality actress like Rosario Dawson or Sanaa Lathan...Doh! This is souding worse than the announcement that Jessica Simpson is performing during halftime at the Super Bowl.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 11:25 p.m. CST

    I'm Beyonce and I'm a whole lotta NOT FUCKING FUNNY!

    by Coldsnap


  • Jan. 28, 2004, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Please beleive it...believe it please

    by Mr. Little-Jeans

    I think it's ridiculous to consider that this isn't true. Although it seems inconceivable, I bet this shit happens. Hell you know how you said to yourself.."Halle Berry is playing fucking catwoman.." when you heard. Or how you said "Is she really wearing that bootleg boys town S&M outfit for her costume.." when you saw the picture. I hear their next idea is to make a movie about Noah's Ark played by a chinese woman in crotchless panties that fits all the clean and unclean beast on a pontoon boat...look for it SUMMER 2006!!!!!!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard....

    by FannyPad

    changing minor characters like pete and lana (well, her hair) is okay....but Lois is the main character next to superman. Depp as Lex Luthor? bullshit, johnny Depp is way to smart for that. If WB had any sense (which they dont) they'd tie the film in with Smallville (which is one of the best takes on the superman myth) and cast Tom Welling and Micheal Rosenbaum, along with Maggie Gyllenhaal as Lois.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Christ...They can't help but let Peters kill it, can they?

    by solitaire

    Honestly, the best thing that could happen over there is for something very big and very heavy to fall from very high up onto that asshole. First...back in the Cage, Kevin Smith having a conniption fit, Peters demanding an "over the top gay robot sidekick" for Brainiac (Smith said he was either hollywoods most progressive person or it's biggest fucking idiot)days, the WB was screwing this up enough. What kills me now is that they already HAVE the perfect set up for superman, if they would just let Smallville go another season, and have the show ending with Clack leaving bag in hand, suit in bag. I buy Welling in that role: I see him as both sides, and his relationship with Rosenbaum works. Why re-invent the wheel? I know the show doesn't work for everyone, but the principal fact is that is treats Kal-El, and fans of the character with some semblance of respect and can work as the traditional comic translated. That ain't gonna happen with Ryan Seacrest wearing the suit or something equally ridiculous. As for Depp, I love the guy's work, but I agree with those above who doubt this bit o' news. The guy has been choosy for this long, and has said that he only took Pirates because he wanted to wait for a "big" film that felt right, where he didn't sell out. The guy sees himself as an actor, and though I do see him doing a comic related project (Sandman or something) I don't see him doing this script. As far as Beyonce goes...hell, race doesn't even factor into it for me, because it doesn't have to get that far. First question, can she act? Not really, so no. It all comes down to money, and so Peters will throw whatever is hot at the moment into the film, as is his trademark. Whatever...just stay the hell away from Intimidation.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Superman's Weakness

    by DMented

    Yeah, we used to think just Kryptonite could kill Supes. Who'da thunk some dumb Hollywood bastard could do him in, and his whole franchise with him ... Superman's greatest foe? Not Lex. Jon Fucking Peters. Get this guy off the project before he pisses on this legend more than he already has. I'm so sick of hearing the shit this guy's pulling that I'm considering not seeing it at all, ignoring all the news and rumors too, just to keep myself sane. Beyonce should be given a chance to prove herself, but she hasn't yet. She doesn't yet deserve the opportunity to play this legend; the possibility she'll tarnish it is too great. IF YOU INSIST ON CASTING BEYONCE, PLEASE CAST SHAQUILLE O'NEAL AS SUPERMAN ... THAT WAY I CAN BE SURE YOU'RE JOKING AND JUST COMPLETELY IGNORE WHATEVER PIECE OF SHIT YOU DUMB BASTARDS SQUEEZE OUT. THANK YOU.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Ok...lets do this!!!

    by halcyonseven

    Ok, so does anyone know how we can organize a petition or website to get this atrocity stopped? I don't mean writing a letter telling the WB who you think ought to be in the movie cause no one cares about that either! I mean asking them to adhere to the Superman MYTHOLOGY! Any ideas folks?

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Bring in Team Smallville.

    by Blok Narpin

    Only with the writers and producers of Smallville behind this, and Tom Welling and Michael Rosenbaum in the lead roles will this movie be watchable.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:15 a.m. CST


    by DMented was used to create a petition to cast Welling for the movie role. We could create a new petition there. But rather than create one to adhere to the mythology, let's sign one to can that fucker Peters. To be truthful, I wouldn't mind them playing with the mythology as long as they did it well. Casting Beyonce just doesn't give me a warm & fuzzy feeling that's the case.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:21 a.m. CST

    I'm Lois Lane, and I'm a whole lotta woman!

    by Darth_Potter

    I will not condone the use of Beyonce, I will not condone it, Sam I am.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:24 a.m. CST

    Is Spike Lee Directing? SUPERMAN : JUNGLE FEVER

    by Jon E Cin

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:30 a.m. CST

    Beyonce is way to sexy hot to play lois lane anyways

    by Jon E Cin

    Also,.,lois does not have booty!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:35 a.m. CST

    Political correctness and Hollywood liberals

    by Prince Acroyear

    Shuddup fatass Knowles and all your geekgasms. You are just as big a hypocrite as the these politically correct Hollywood liberals that prefer a African American woman in Lois Lane's role.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:40 a.m. CST

    What ever happened to Chris Rock as Jimmy Olson?

    by Prince Acroyear

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:46 a.m. CST

    How to fix this

    by shockroach

    Just get get Beyonce some Michael jackson surgery. He turned into a small dark-haired woman.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Just remembered what happened the last time a hip, black r&b sin

    by mwhelan67

    thats right, Queen of the Damned. One of the worst movies ever made.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:57 a.m. CST


    by Ribbons

    Depp and Knowles are all wrong for these parts. Even if these rumors are untrue, or planted to test the waters, I'll still say this: what a fucking joke. There seems to be no logic behind seeking Knowles as Lois Lane whatsoever excepting the fact that she's hot, and Depp because he's "hot." wtf? Johnny Depp is not a menacing man, no matter how he "plays it."

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 1 a.m. CST


    by majestik101

    Please say this isn't so. I can only imagine Beyonce as Lois Lane and a cameo by Britney Spears as Supergirl...

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 1:13 a.m. CST


    by Shigeru

    I knew it! PLUS: Lucille Ball's corpse as HAL JORDAN!! David Spade as SUPERMAN!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Jennifer Connelly could probably be Lois Lane

    by Trik

    But I doubt she'd take the part Also she comes across a bit soft for the part. Lois is a successful, physically active, risk taking reporter. Eliza Dushku might be a good choice, but a bit on the young side to be belivable as a established reporter. She'd be more of an intern at her age. Same with Jessica Alba. She's even younger. When DC and Byrne redid the Superman mythos in the 80's (and he did a very good job) He placed supermans first public apperance as SM being in his very late 20's or early 30's In the new mythos Clark Kent was never a publicly active superboy I watch and mostly enjoy Smallville (gets to angsty) and think a transition to the big screen would be a good finally for the show. Use Tom Welling and some of the cast (ma and pa kent) Maybe have the series finally showing a disaster on a TV. Clark has to respond to a scene with a lot of witnesses. And while he moves fast enough for no one to get a good look at his face. There's no doubt that a superbeing intervened in the disaster. At the end, they know the cats out of the bag, so the superman persona is invented, and the costume made for public appearances. Thats a couple years away though, but it'd give time for a decent script to be written though. Somehow I get the feeling they still plan to go ahead with this:

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Kate Beckinsale as Lois Lane?

    by Darksider

    What do you think?

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 1:43 a.m. CST

    Depp is too pretty to play Luthor

    by Rupee88

    Johnny Depp is too much of a pretty boy to be a good Lex Luthor. I'm no faeg and I'm a big Depp fan, but he is totally wrong for the role.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2 a.m. CST

    I'm in Denial

    by BuggerOff

    This isn't true. I also just had glorius 4-way sex with Jennifer Garner, Beyonce, and Naomi Watts. Naomi asked me to take a load off, so I did....

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:03 a.m. CST

    Lemme repeat, ITS NOT a black thing, its a BAD CASTING thing

    by Rcamacho2278

    its not that beyonce is black, is that shes fucken NOT an actress, shes eye candy. why didnt get that actress from soul food tv show with the green eyes,shes beautiful AND can act, but the fact that the wb picks beyonce shows what they are up to, and fuck em, Lets do that petition harry.. cmon man, take charge of the industry and once again this website will be a force to be reckoned with. directors will be in fear of doing something the fans will hate because HARRYS site will protest. WE HAVE THE POWER!!! LET US UNITE!!!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:19 a.m. CST

    Cory849 - "and the Cast of Crossfire will be playing Mecha-Lutho

    by Trader Groucho

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha. Damn. That was actually funny.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:48 a.m. CST

    In defense of Johnny Depp (tho he scarcely needs my help) and Be

    by Trader Groucho

    The cool thing about Johnny is he's very picky about his scripts. If it's crap, he'll walk away. As for Beyonce, she's easy on the eyes and she's growing as an actress. While I can't speak to the script as I haven't read it, I would add, on general principles, that the folks behind the new incarnations of these classic franchises need the creative freedom to explore different ways of re-imagining them. IOW, Krypton's sole survivor was a white guy and Lois was a caucasian brunette originally because Blacks and other minorities just didn't get the cool positive role models in the movies, the comic books or the popular media in those days. So, how about Djimon Hounsou as the Man of Steel? Denzel as Jorel? Danny Glover and Whoopi Goldberg as Mr. and Mrs. Kent? Aunjanue Ellis as Lana?

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:56 a.m. CST

    HA ha ha ha. heeeeee. Seriously, Johny depp can be cold calculat

    by TheGinger Twit

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:01 a.m. CST

    I hope this movie gets made!

    by Dr. Hilarius

    Just so I can watch WB burn to the ground amid torch-bearing geeks led by Dmann! Now excuse me while I go prepare the fire bombs...

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:03 a.m. CST

    I remember why back in 1990 when Wynona Ryder was being consider

    by TheGinger Twit

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:04 a.m. CST

    what the...

    by hoju456

    what the... what... I... what... NO! Has hell frozen over. Oh wait no it hasn't because WB has made another awful... Jeez... what has happened to taste in movies and doing what is right. If all this is true, it's just... i can't think anymore. My brain is going to explode. This is... AHHHH!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:06 a.m. CST


    by Stormin

    DC is finally getting its just desserts for having the audacity for trying to break back into the film industry after wearing out its welcome a thousand times over. Come on, WB! Didn't you get the hint when you made STEEL?

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:08 a.m. CST

    This is a joke right?

    by hoju456

    Come on Harry come clean. This is just a cruel joke right? Right?

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:14 a.m. CST


    by Snow Is Fun

    This just isn't right. It's not so much a problem of Lois being played by someone who is black, it's a problem of Lois being played by someone who is a pop star. Beyonce is not an actress and has already demonstrated this fact in a couple of movies. To me, Selma Blair is a good choice, as is Zooey Deschanel, but I'm gonna have to go with what seems to be the majority opinion here and say that the ideal way to go with this movie is to take the Smallville cast and add Natalie Portman as Lois. Mmm, that'd be good.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:21 a.m. CST


    by austintexan

    aaaarrrrrrrrgggggghhhhh, the agony!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:22 a.m. CST

    Christopher Reeve was the definitive Superman...

    by Jay Jay leave the franchise the fuck alone!!!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:32 a.m. CST

    Let's not get worked up just yet...

    by jtp972

    All through the process of getting the next Batman movie together, there were various rumors of odd casting and plot direction (granted, nothing as strange as this...), but in the end, it looks like wise choices are being made. Of course, Batman does have a credible, competent director on hand who probably commands the respect of the 'suits.' Wait! Maybe we should get worked up! McG or Bay won't have the sense or the nads to tell the suits where to stick it when they have these crazy ideas! I MIGHT be willing to consider Depp for Luthor (maybe...) but Beyonce as Lois Lane just makes NO sense, not even in any kind of clever, offbeat, against the grain way. Somebody posted about Zooey Deschanel as Lois...that could work. Selma Blair is damn near perfect, and I've heard Natlie Portaman's name thrown around...that would be fine, too. Any of those three...but not Beyonce! And I love me some Beyonce, but she ain't Lois!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:36 a.m. CST

    The hip hop Superman, starring 50 Cent as Superman, Beyonce as L

    by jules windex

    You whiners are amazing though. If you actually believe this casting, then you are beyond gullible.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:37 a.m. CST

    oh come on...

    by sanjtsubaki

    I mean, AICN has messed up stuff before, right? This has got to be a joke or a mess up. It has to be. To quote Letterman, "I pray to God it's a joke!" The funny thing is, Harry is right, Johnny Depp isn't right for that part, but that hasn't even sunk in yet. I'm still in cold-sweat shock over "Beyonce". Wow. Honestly, wow. I met Noel Neill in Austin a few months ago (still beautiful at 83 years old), and it's a good thing too, 'cause she's going to keel over deader than fried chicken when she hears this one.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:44 a.m. CST

    What you all don't realize is WHY this is the cast.

    by CranialLeak

    Let's face it. There's no secret that this project has been going on for years, with practically every A-lister & B-lister vying for the parts. Then they get the runaround from the execs, then they decide why waster my time, then the studio starts thinking, "Hey who's hot right now?" You got it...Sandra (no)...Katie(no)...Selma(no)...10 other actresses (no)...Beyonce (Yes! I'll do it!). And so ends another chapter of "The Death Of A Possible Franchise". Now as for Johnny Depp, you've got to be kidding me. He wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole unless the execs said, "Hey, do what you did in Pirates. We'll just let you off, and you do your own thing!"


  • Jan. 29, 2004, 4:43 a.m. CST

    Evolve Smallville

    by magnius

    Wouldn't it be a better idea to just let Smallville evolve into the film series? I mean we have a great cast and an already popular take on the why not wait a couple of more years and let the TV cast become the movie cast?

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 5:09 a.m. CST

    Another vote for Smallville evolving into the Superman movie fra

    by NicholasWolfwood

    Perish the thought that the WB would work on a successful show and bring it to the silver screen! Oh yeah Harry's sister Beyonce is HOT!

  • A scoop from a janitor. sigh

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 6:03 a.m. CST

    2 things:

    by DocPazuzu

    1) Parker Posey is the perfect Lois Lane. You know it to be true. 2) The double standard morons who yell about "racism" when people complain about Beyonc

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 6:27 a.m. CST


    by fAbs

    I hope she dies, then the director dies, and then everyone else associated with this movie dies (Except Depp because he is fucking cool) and I hope anyone who likes Beyonce or anyone who thinks this movie is still going to be great dies.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Possible solution!

    by Azlam Orlandu

    Can't we just get Uncle Lucas to clone a bunch of Peter Jacksons, to ensure that the vast majority of upcoming films don't suck? Come on Lucas, you're spending all this time creating clones to help a galaxy that nobody apparently cares about anymore, when we really need the help here. Then in that case we can just get our CGI Christopher Reeves like we all deserve, then, then life will return to normal.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 7:31 a.m. CST

    WB, while you're at it.......JET LI WOULD MAKE A COOL SUPERMAN!!

    by DarthBakpao

    ....just being sarcastic!! Beyonce Knowles???? What the fuck they had in their minds? Why not as well cast Will Smith as Clark Kent?

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 7:54 a.m. CST


    by Devil'sOwn

    This is another one of those fucked up, blatantly ridiculous stories that gets circulated, makes us fanboys jerk on the line, and reveal ourselves for the social retards we truly are. I can't possibly imagine why WB would consider this for even the moments that Beyonce's star is burning in.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 8 a.m. CST

    Kate Hudson IS Rosa Parks on the WB!

    by Mumblix

    Jeez...this sucks. How about Kate Beckinsale for Lois lane? A small-boned for me.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 8:07 a.m. CST

    WB, Hollywood, Superman: ITS BEEN DONE!

    by Antiriad

    Do we need another inferior remake like Planet of the Apes?

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 8:11 a.m. CST

    This just in HOWARD DEAN as GREEN LANTERN, thanks WB!!

    by mbaker


  • Jan. 29, 2004, 8:12 a.m. CST


    by Hello Dave

    What next, from these mindless MTV lovin, PC , assholes ? The guy who played Screech in Saved by the Bell as John Shaft. I can see it now, a classic in the making.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 8:19 a.m. CST

    Remember "The Wiz?" This movie should be "Supe."

    by Cletus Van Damme

    You know it's true, just agree.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 8:39 a.m. CST

    The hate directed at this film is clearly racial

    by Regicidal_Maniac

    juuuust kidding. Beyonce is all wrong, but not because she's black and Lois is CLEARLY WHITE, it's because she's a shithouse actress. Hell I don't even believe her when I see her with a Pepsi can in her hand how the fuck am I supposed to believe her in a film? Lois is a hard part to cast in my opinion because it's all about chemistry, and until you lock down Kal/Clark/Supes you can't even dream of casting Lois. Reeve and Kidder had it in spades, just check their audition tapes (not sure what went wrong with Kidder in the time between casting and photography). But then again this is probably just the WB's marketing department testing the waters too see what the market will bear. "Well Lois is out but how about Jimmy?" I can see it now, lousy knobgobblers. For my money it's Walken as Luthor an unknown as Superman and a girl who has the right chemistry to match said unknown, and they should look like their comic counterparts, no need to urbanise any classic and beloved characters.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Beyonce Knowles???

    by Ronwell Dobbs

    Great.....just what we need....another fuckin Knowles in the movie biz.....just kidding Harry......Beyonce sucks. Maggie & Welling would rule.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Mary Louise Parker for Lois, Matthew Bomis as Kal-El, Wilford Bi

    by Big Bad Clone

    Eckhart would have to be bald for it but that's the cast I'd like

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Kathy Bates as Harriet Tubman!

    by JAGUART

    What? You gotta problem with that? Kathy Bates is a fine actress.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 9:37 a.m. CST

    This is just like that "TyGor" crap we heard before...

    by Jeditemple

    The public outcry over this travesty will have WB pull this idea before anyone is signed. It's obvious that this was leaked to get the fan reaction first. I'm sure the "shit-o-meter" is registering our dismay and they'll switch gears...again.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Some of you need to get a grip.

    by Chastain-86

    And I DON'T mean about the casting of Lois Lane, which is a travesty at best. I mean about the name-calling and racist-claiming lot of you that have decided, since people don't WANT a black Lois, that they must be Aryan Nation followers. Bullshit. In fact, I think I'm going to produce a biopic on Martin Luther King Jr., detailing his life and times and hardships, leading up to his assassination by James Earl Ray. So far, I've got Clay Aiken signed on to play King, and Sam Jackson as the sick, delusional Ray. Brett Ratner's signed on to direct. Think anybody will throw a shitfit? YES, MOTHERFUCKERS, YES. THEY WOULD.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Can we cease with all the one-liner-esque posts about white acto

    by Terry_1978

    Trust me, I agree with the suggestion of Beyonce and Depp being cast in here, mostly because they're the flavors of the month right now(I know, I know...Depp should never be in that category, but they sure as hell are making him out to fit that description as of late). If you have a problem with Beyonce being cast, just say need to just go all fucking out and lambast everything relevant to black entertainment, "hey hey, how about a reggae version of Raging Bull, with Sean Paul and a bum, mon...a no talent bum." OK, mine was pretty funny.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Blaxploitation Superman????

    by HOB

    Is that what they're going for? If so, I wish Richard Pryor was young enough to play Kal-El... "Im supernegro!! I can see through everything...'cept whitey..." Maybe if this was a side project for WB, a blaxploitation superman might be kinda cool, kinda like when they considered Chow Youn Fat for Batman. However, even like that i could name ten better black actresses that would make a halfway decent lois lane starting with the chick from bring it on or the one from undercover brother. Or hell even Pam Grier, but not Beyonce. And of course, Luthor would have to be white, like da man is in all blaxploitation movies. Shave the head of Michael Rapaport or even Robert DeNiro (there'd be some irony) and you got the perfect blaxploitation luthor. See? casting ain't so hard....HOWEVER, no way in hell should beyonce knowles be allowed anywhere near the film that'll bring superman back to the big screen, white. black or purple. Johnny depp would make an interesting Brainiac though.

  • Hey WB, while you're at it, throw in Gary Coleman as Perry Mason and Boy George as Jimmy Olsen. Seriously, the fanboys will eat that shit right up! I swear! You'll break $600 million! That's all you care about, right? I hear Don Knotts is just dying for you to call!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Sorry but..............

    by Dolmes

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...............this is what you get when you go gaga over Johnny Depp in POTC. If it's true, and I'm very sceptical, then Wanker Bros must have thought 'hey johnny depp was applauded for his CRAZEEEE antics in POTK, that's what we need, a jack nicholson joker style enemy for the superman movies. YEAH!!!! Pass me that contract damnnit!' I wonder if it'll have a big spider in it and some polar bears?.............You know who'd rock as superman, Jake Lloyd

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Harry's "spy"

    by Wossy

    Anybody seen Dark Horizons? Garth mentions how this got sent to him, AICN and comingsoon in one go - Harry's spy phone calls are bullshit...

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 11:30 a.m. CST

    not a chance in hell

    by I Wonder Alice

    that this film is going to be made. It's cursed to be passed around until someone takes pitty on it and burns the fucking script, thus ending the madness

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 11:40 a.m. CST

    "Can we cease with all the one-liner-esque posts about white act

    by Cletus Van Damme

    We've been slapped in the face yet again by WB if this is true. Sure, legally WB owns the characters, but they are all ICONS which are owned by us ALL. Dammit, they owe it to US, the CREATORS and the CHARACTERS THEMSELVES to be loyal to the characters! So, no, stupid, we can't and WON'T stop.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 11:57 a.m. CST

    beyonce won't work 'cause

    by Hud

    black women don't have names like "Lois." You ever notice that? They have much jazzier names like Latifah, Ashanti, Shania, and, well, Beyonce. Boy, I like saying that: "Beyonce." It sounds like "bouncy" if you had harelip. So her name will have to be something like Ashanilafeah.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:06 p.m. CST

    And The Casting of Chris Rock as Clark Kent Seals the Deal!

    by hipcheck13

    Harry, you got this one RIGHT. It has nothing to do with skin color - Michael Clark Duncan proved that, when he nailed the Kingpin role dead solid perfect. Beyonce Knowles as LL? WTF?! How about an ACTRESS? Idiots - and this proves, again, why Peter Jackson's on top of the world; he's got Naomi Watts for King Kong...and you know she's got the chops. Well, at least the Pepsi product endorsements'll make perfect sense. Ah, who gives a shit about DC comic movies, anyway? Marvel's giving us Spidey 2 and Man-Thing this year - fuck the "Distinguished Competitors."

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Smallville said Lois Lane was Chloe Sullivans Cousin, WTF

    by Rcamacho2278

    Wheres the continuity, you stupid warner bros fucks. HARRY WHERE IS THAT PETITION!!???

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:28 p.m. CST


    by FloydGandoli

    He's a fine actor, but hiring Johnny Depp to play Lex Luthor is like hiring Ang Lee to direct Hulk.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Beyonce as Lois? I LOVE IT.

    by numberface

    Quit bein' a bunch of racist fags. When you say it's not because she's black, you're lying. You just don't want a BLACK WOMAN to sully your precious milk-white cracker memories of the Lois you pulled your pud to, wishing they'd draw her nekkid. Good for Beyonce, good for WB. Now if we could only get Chris Tucker as Perry White. Depp as Lex? I think it's as good an idea as Gene Hackman.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 12:59 p.m. CST

    The correct jubilation is...

    by JAGUART

    I'm Lovin' It.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Lois Lane

    by Dolmes

    All the fan boys have the Lois Lane fantasy, to see it realised with Beyonce sullies it. It's like Jennifer Garner, she said in countless interviews that fans have an image of Elektra. The appearance is key with any comic book character. Michael Clarke Duncan is BIG! HUGE! He was perfect for the role. Beyonce Knowles does not look like Lois Lane. She doesn't come off as a petit damsel in distress. She's stunning to look at but it's hard to imagine her doing the Margot Kidder bit.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Stunt casting.

    by Wampa_1

    What we have, in both Beyonce's case and Johnny Depp's, is stunt casting. I can understand perfectly why she (may be) the top contender for the Lois Lane role. She's hot right now, beautiful, has so far given decent performances, and, as shown in Goldmember, possesses three qualities essential for Lois: She's strong, cool, and has sass. However, Lois Lane's strengh, cooless, and sass have got to give way when Superman is around (because she's smitten), and I'm not sure Beyonce can believably drop them at the snap of a finger. That's where her inexperience as an actress will come into play. But who said they were interested in being faithful to the character? Of all the reasons I listed, she probably got the part because she's hot right now. And she would be the first black Lois Lane. Race (in most cases) should have nothing to do with casting, but this change will get mega media attention. As far as Johnny Depp is concerned, he's always popular, plus it's an opportunity to cast against type. The choice of Hackman, love it or hate it, was similar in the 1978 film (not to mention that dark haired guy that played Lex in the Dean Cain/Teri Hatcher series). Once again, that doesn't mean it was a good idea, because where casting Beyonce doesn't drastically change or betray the character she's pegged to play, casting Depp may indeed do just that. Though I am intrigued by seeing an uber sassy Lois Lane and a bald Johnny Depp (just imagine the press coverage this film will get if it has the balls to do that), I'm sure this picture will be complete shite. It's being built on a script (provided they're still using the "suit in the aluminum can" story that caused so much outrage) that changes the Superman mythos into something almost completely unrecognizable. These casting choices will further mar the legend and taint the character so badly we may not see any live-action Superman anything for years to come. This film will get loads of press, there will be tons of merchandise, and it will make serious $$ it's first weekend, but it will be roasted by critics and loathed by the public. The stench from this film may be so vile any decent comic adaptations currently in the works may find themselves either shelved or gutted. This is an impending disaster of epic proportions. Warner Brothers, instead of making a Superman film, is poised to deliver a lump of Kryptonite.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Re: Loshiana Layne

    by JAGUART

    If a re-make of Star Trek TOS was made and a white women was cast as Nubian Goddess Lt. Uhura, there was be just as vehement a backlash and it would have nothing to do with race.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 1:15 p.m. CST


    by Darth Phallus

    This movie will suck so bad it'll make GIGLI look like fucking CITIZEN KANE!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Smallville The Movie

    by perry98

    Why can't WB see they have a good thing going with Smallville? Tom Welling is perfect as Superman. Let the series go on for a few years and then when they are ready to turn him into big S make a big f**king movie out of it. Not only will you get the core Smallville audience out to the theaters but all the other Supes fans as well. But then again I am not big wig suit at WB so what do I know. Beyonce is wrong as Lois. Depp is wrong as Luthor. I am not a WASP either but a person of color who is saying it. Perry

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Give me an 'effing break!

    by Doomfarer

    Losing out of having Selma Blair portraying Lois Lane draws vacuum, but Beyonce'?? I have no problem with a black actress provided she can act. Beyonce' isn't it!! Depp, provided he goes the distance, can pull it off as Lex Luthor though. My initial reaction though is that this has got to be a joke. The Superman franchise needs to be seriously thought out, and this doesn't sound like the right thing. God, I hope this is bogus otherwise I refuse to part with my hard earned money for the POS.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:15 p.m. CST

    I thought Depp was Willie Wonka

    by TravelSteveR

    How can Johnny Depp be cast in 2 big budget epics from Warner Brothers at the same time? Does this mean that Christopher Walken is in as Wonka, or did someone make a grievous error and got the films mixed up---maybe Depp IS Wonka, and Beyonce is a booty-licious Oompa Loompa

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:16 p.m. CST

    "Some of my best friends are black"

    by phlawless

    Yes, I think Beyonce is wrong for Lois, and Depp is wrong for Lex. I also think that some of you are really racists (closet or not). As far as me not not liking Beyonce for Lois, race is a factor for me in this. Not the ultimate deciding factor, of course-- but a factor. It is part of the total appearance. I think the actors chosen for roles of established characters should generally fit the popular perception, <unless there is a substantial perceived benefit>. I don't see any substantial benefit for Beyonce as Lois, and I believe we would actually lose more than gain. In the same vein, Tobey MaGuire I didn't think was a good Spiderman. His appearance was too scrawny and meek. Spidey is usually represented bigger in frame, a little taller, and with more presence (I'm thinking Affleck or a Billy Zane.. with hair). Duncan was good as Kingpin, and added a nice interesting kick to the character. And Halle Berry, although Black like Storm, was just <not> Storm. Not tall enough, and totally lacking of that regal flair possessed by Ororo Munroe. Iman however... I digress.. my point being that there is nothing wrong with wanting actors to fit their roles and wanting stories to be true to their origins. Hollywood loses sight of this sometimes. Change does not always mean good. Why was Terry (from Spawn) made into a White guy? Just to be different? What did we gain? Why is the X-men story all jacked? The story mods they are making with Rogue, Iceman, etc. are just atrocious to a die-hard fan like myself. But it is clear to see that the driving motivations for many (not all) of you has to do more so with a dislike of African American race and culture as a whole than disagreement with character fit. If one listens carefully throughout life, one can learn to distinguish the facets of vehemency. It is not racism every time a person says that they do not like something that is part of another race. But sometimes it is. Knowing the difference is difficult, but not impossible. And incidentally, IceMonkey, I would have a problem with Woody Harrelson as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Aboslutely no common ground appearance-wise, not nearly charismatic enough, and I see nothing exciting or interesting about his character that could spice up the role of such an influential Black leader. I would have a problem with The Rock as the Black Panther, seeing as how T'Challa was an African dark skinned black man with a smaller build, and being African was central to the formulation of his character. But The Rock as Luke Cage... hmm... now that's an idea. Definitely has the build, and, although lighter skinned, would add serious spice to an otherwise bland character. Wow, now that's a good suggestion, although some might go with Ving Rhames (sans mustache maybe. I'd go for the younger Rock myself). Did you know that The Rock's father is African-Canadian?

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:19 p.m. CST


    by 5secondfuse

    My god I fucking hate Warner Brothers, I just hate the braindead piss poor no talent fuck faces and every suicidal movie decision these boardroom twats make. Fucking Beyonce???????? What the fuck!!!!!!!!! She aint no fucking actress, she aint no Lois Lane, do I have to state the obvious........she's got a fit body and a great ass but heavan help us, all she's good for now is a playboy centre about jack of all trades but master of none! Selma was a good choice for Lois too. Some retarded 25 year old dickhead with no love for comics or Superman in general thinks Superman should be taken hiphop stylee...WTF. I'm still waiting for them to cast Eminem as clarke! Oh lets all jump on the Johnny Depp band wagon, Depp is the greatest actor of our generation and he's cool as fuck but he's not Lex Luther. If Pirates had sunk at the box office they wouldn't have chose him anyhow. Warner Brothers are a fucking joke and so are the pricks that work in that bile spewing nut house. U watch them fuck with Nolan over batman in the next few months.....bastards!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Oh the tragedy, When Good Remakes Go Bad On FOX!

    by Alkohal

    This is why I download movies off kazaa, See Kill Bill was worth the $10 twice hell I paid for Return of the king 3 times but if this get made I woulodnt even download it just to save myself years of psychiatric help. If this gets made it will make CATWOMAN, yes the awful Halle Berry Film, look like Citizen Kain! ROSEBUD Nigga!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Hey Blundetto, where the hell .....

    by Doomfarer

    Dude, where did you get the idea for Michael Chiklis as Luthor?? I was going through select episodes of "The Shield" and, well, he would ROCK!!! Of course, put him in a dress and he'd STILL be better as Lois Lane than Beyonce'. God, please make it go away!!!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:46 p.m. CST

    What The Hell ????

    by AesopRox

    Ok First We Hear That Rumor That Justin Timberfake is in the running for jimmy olsen and now beyonce as lois lane?? I didnt realize that they were making Mtv's Superman.Shit while theyre at it why dont they just cast Nick Lachey as Superman Ozzy Osborn as Perry White OH Shit I May have just given them more ideas BLAST ME!!!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Did we bitch and moan like this for Duncan's Kingpin?

    by Coldsnap

    Just curious.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 2:57 p.m. CST

    I wish WB would sell the rights to Superman....

    by Trik

    To someone who will actually make a SM movie. And make a movie that doesn't have giant spider robots or gay robot henchmen. Someone who will make a SM movie, that is about SM and not about lunchboxes or other merchandise. At this point, there is no way I'm going to pay to see a movie that has Jon Peters involved in it in any way. How the fuck does this guy hold a position? Is he someones punk kid and can't be fired?

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:18 p.m. CST

    by translatron

    Wow. I didn't hear this much stink with the casting of that Mel Gibson movie "Passion". If you think thats the way the characters look in that time and in that region, then youre an idiot. 500 years of this misperception and we were told to get over. So get over your precious Lois Lane.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Just animate the movie

    by surfalaska

    Screw finding a cast. Since the script sucks anyway, they should just animate this one. WB did a great job with the Superman/Batman cartoons. How could they stray so far? Seriously, I'd go watch a stop-motion claymation Superman movie before I'd go see one with Bootylicious as Lois. Stop the planet, I want off!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Depp can be anyone, but wtf is with the Louis Lane casting...

    by Dragonfire

    Then again it's not surprising considering the rumours that Ashton Kutcher was going to be superman. This isn't superman it's smallville the movie.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 3:43 p.m. CST

    phlawless & numberface & Holier Than Thou BULLSHIT

    by DMented

    Phlawless: Your argument is clearly phlawed. I've heard one, maybe two slightly off-color comments in the dozens of dissenting posts. If the role were given to Beyonce, it would be *because* she's black, and *because* she's very hot right now -- TWO REALLY BAD FUCKING REASONS. If people are posting some off-color shit, it's because they're blowing off steam about a decision they're horrified by -- illustrating how ridiculous it is with more ridiculous ideas of their own. It's called sarcasm. Enjoy. Numberface: This role doesn't need to go to a white woman, but it can't go to fucking Beyonce fucking Knowles, you unbelievable dipshit. Someone mentioned Rosario Dawson, which I could live with -- and not because she's lighter, because she can fucking act. Or Sanaa Lathan, who was great in Out of Time. And if you think anyone jerks off more to Lois than Beyonce, you're dumber than you sound. If pud-pulling was a factor, nobody would complain about Beyonce. BUT WE NEED AN ACTUAL ACTRESS. If you're going to change Lois' race, do it for a creative reason, not just to get more black people to see the movie. And everyone but you knows there can be no creative reason to cast Beyonce -- a talented, beautiful woman, but one who is completely untested as an actress and who smiles way too fucking much to be Lois. Kay?

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 4:28 p.m. CST

    mwhelan67: Defending Aaliyah.

    by Mr. Profit

    She was waaaay better than Beyonce. Was great in RMD. And it wasn't her fault QOTD had a terrible script and director. The movie started when Aaliyah appeared onscreen like an hour into the damn thing, and she was good. It's not her fault the film sucked. R.I.P. Aaliyah.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Lie to everyone but yourself

    by phlawless

    DMented: You are clearly DMented. Whare part of my argumented, specifically, did you think was flawed? Was it the part that said that changing the characters appearanced should only be done for substantial benefit to the movie? No, it couldn't be, because that is congruent with your thoughts of "If you're going to change Lois' race, do it for a creative reason". And I agree that they are, exactly as you say, considering Beyonce only "*because* she's black, and *because* she's very hot right now." So what is it? Oh wait... you think that I was wrong to say "I also think that some of you are really racists" or to suggest that many of you were against Beyonce primarily because of anti-Black feelings. Well bub, I do feel that way. Although, that is not an argument to be considered "flawed or not," but more so an impression garned from reading the totality of posts, and reflecting on life experiences. To be angry with the choice (as I was with Halle Berry as Storm) is fine. To be sarcastic in response to those feelings is fine. But I guess what I was suggesting was maybe a little introspection. I can sit here right now and tell you that I think Beyonce would be a bad choice for Lois Lane. But when someone calls it "ridiculous" and then proceeds with "ridiculous" examples primarily focusing on race, it makes you wonder why race is so important to that person. Then if you look at the vehemency of expression, and word choice, it may leave you with an impression. This is the impression I received and thought I would share. You can take it as "holier than thou" and rally to "prove me wrong"-- or you can think about it, and look into yourself. If you have done so, and are completely comfortable that you are not deluding yourself, then fine. You are not to whom I was talking. It is that "one, maybe two" with which I am concerned. BTW, I agree with Profit. The film just sucked. Aaliyah wasn't too bad I don't think. Lestat as a rock star? Ugh.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 9:09 p.m. CST


    by DMented

    The flawed argument (if it could be called that) was indeed that "many" -- your word -- of those posting were racists. True, it was more nonexistent that flawed ... just couldn't resist that "phlawed" crack, just like you couldn't resist that obvious crack about my being demented. I fucking KNOW I'm demented, I chose the the name, you silly little goober. I'm just saying get off your high horse -- or should I say hobby horse, cuz you sound like you're ten years old -- and stop pretending to be morally superior. You're just boring everyone with your bland PC bullshit. Are you one of those guilty white folks that rally to call someone else racist just to differentiate yourself from them? Pandering to that kind of ridiculous PC public opinion? I don't care if you thought I was racist or not ... what I'm saying is that having read the entire thread, I can only find off-color remarks, none I can call racist. Unless I missed a skinhead diatribe nestled somewhere among the fun-poking. It's actually pretty appropriate to caricuturize black culture a little in response the negative effect it can sometimes have advertising and entertainment. That effect doesn't so much come directly from black culture as much as from dumb white executives trying to get "in" with the black community. Some dipshit exec from McDonalds says "get more black people into our restaurants" and you wind up with the most annoying advertising jingle of all time, "I'm lovin' it." Just like some dumb fuckin white studio exec -- we'll call him Jon Peters -- may be thinking that if he's gonna match the Matrix box office numbers, he needs black asses in those seats ... (dim light bulb flickers weakly above cocaine-ravaged brain) ... ding ... Beyonce. It's the new formula, right? A couple of black secondary characters and you're "in". Ridiculing this kind of thought process is not racist, it's the only thing keeping some of us sane in the face of such idiocy.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 9:11 p.m. CST

    phlawless part 2

    by DMented

    Okay, you said "some" not "many" ... but the rest of the argument stands, fucker!

  • burp

  • Jan. 31, 2004, 1:09 a.m. CST

    As though it needs to be said...

    by patient37

    When they were casting for Shaft, did they bring in Jim Carrey? No. Why? Not because they're fucking racist, but because John Shaft is black as motherfucking midnight, and twice as dangerous. We already had the "Black Superman" movie, and it was called "Steel". Fucking deal with it. The African-American community doesn't need any hand-outs, Warners, and the comic book community doesn't need you raping their folklore anymore than you already plan.

  • Feb. 1, 2004, 2:25 a.m. CST


    by SysyphusPartTwo

    Lets just say that it's a bad idea. It is however, a good idea that the studio execs read these comments. They have to realize that the afore mentioned "pepsi commercial" is just that. We want a Superman that will do The Man of Steel Justice. It seems they are just out for the quick buck nowadays, you know? I would also like to say that I am getting extremely bored with remakes. There have got to be better original scripts on the shelf, right? One more thing before I get off my soapbox, Indy IV better not turn out like Star Wars. Indiana Jones is one of the greatest screen characters of our time, holding his weight with the likes of James Bond, and his movies could never turn sour...or could they?