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And The Academy Award Nominations Are...

Hey folks, Harry here... Well RETURN OF THE KING leads things with 11 Nominations with MASTER AND COMMANDER (soon to be rereleased btw) coming in second with 10 nominations. However, for me... the big winners have to be CITY OF GOD, TWILIGHT SAMURAI and TRIPLETTES OF BELLEVILLE - as they all picked up nominations that nobody thought possible. Well, let's take a look at the categories...

ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE

Johnny Depp - PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL

Ben Kingsley - HOUSE OF SAND AND FOG

Jude Law - COLD MOUNTAIN

Bill Murray - LOST IN TRANSLATION

Sean Penn - MYSTIC RIVER

Ya know... Having Ed Wood, Don Logan, Gigolo Joe, Dr. Peter Venkman and Jeff Spicoli all nominated warms my heart. Personally, I'm pulling for Ed or Venkman! I just wish Harvey Pekar were in the running!

ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

Alec Baldwin - THE COOLER

Benicio Del Toro - 21 GRAMS

Djimon Hounsou - IN AMERICA

Tim Robbins - MYSTIC RIVER

Ken Watanabe - THE LAST SAMURAI

While I would have loved to have seen Sean Astin get his nomination here, he doesn't need it to be remembered, that character won't be forgotten anytime soon. Out of this group, I'd throw the Oscar to Benicio, his was my fave of those 5. Where's Sonny Chiba? Heh.

ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE

Keisha Castle-Hughes - WHALE RIDER

Diane Keaton - SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE

Samantha Morton - IN AMERICA

Charlize Theron - MONSTER

Naomi Watts - 21 GRAMS

Well... Damn, the automatic Nicole Kidman nomination didn't come through. MUTHERFUCKERS DIDN"T NOMINATE SCARLETT!!!!! Ahem. However, while the easy money is on Charlize for MONSTER - watch out for Keisha Castle-Hughes, she could be a spoiler here!

ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE

Shohreh Aghdashloo - HOUSE OF SAND AND FOG

Patricia Clarkson - PIECES OF APRIL

Marcia Gay Harden - MYSTIC RIVER

Holly Hunter - THIRTEEN

Renée Zellweger - COLD MOUNTAIN

Wow, really wasn't expecting Shohreh Aghdashloo. Personally, I was kinda pulling for an outside nomination for Shaheen Khan in BEND IT LIKE BECKHAM. I never can pick the Supporting Actress category though. They tend to defy convention in picking the winner here.

ANIMATED FEATURE FILM

BROTHER BEAR

FINDING NEMO

THE TRIPLETS OF BELLEVILLE

I bet TRIPLETS OF BELLEVILLE pulls out a win here. I love FINDING NEMO too, but the fact this picked up an additional nomination shows a level of support that is surprising. Shame that MILLENIUM ACTRESS didn't pick up that wasted BROTHER BEAR spot.

ART DIRECTION

GIRL WITH A PEARL EARRING

THE LAST SAMURAI

THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING

MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD

SEABISCUIT

Kinda wish BIG FISH was in this. My favorite touch of Art Direction this year was that grassy street town. Really lovely. That being said, all 5 of these films deserve their nominations completely.

CINEMATOGRAPHY

CITY OF GOD

COLD MOUNTAIN

GIRL WITH A PEARL EARRING

MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD

SEABISCUIT

Frankly CITY OF GOD's Cesar Charlone should win for his stunning cinematography in CITY OF GOD. Lesnie not getting nominated for RETURN OF THE KING kinda pisses me off. Sigh. GIRL WITH A PEARL EARRING's Eduardo Serra could win this. Also - Robert Richardson should have a damn nom for KILL BILL VOL 1!

COSTUME DESIGN

GIRL WITH A PEARL EARRING

THE LAST SAMURAI

THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING

MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD

SEABISCUIT

Well - I hope Ngila Dickson didn't jinx herself for being nominated twice in the same category for her work on THE LAST SAMURAI and RETURN OF THE KING. Her samurai armor was exquisite though!

DIRECTING

Fernando Meirelles - CITY OF GOD

Peter Jackson - THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING

Sofia Coppola - LOST IN TRANSLATION

Peter Weir - MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD

Clint Eastwood - MYSTIC RIVER

I'm so in love with CITY OF GOD's Fernando Meirelles picking up a nomination, that I am just giddy. But Peter will own the Oscar. Unless something really weird happens. Odd that Gary Ross' SEA BISCUIT lands Best Picture nom with no direction nom for him. You have to wonder how close those votes for SEA BISCUIT and CITY OF GOD were for Best Picture. Had to be tight.

DOCUMENTARY FEATURE

BALSEROS

CAPTURING THE FRIEDMANS

THE FOG OF WAR

MY ARCHITECT

THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND

I'm dying to see THE FOG OF WAR - I have seen the others, but I'm very very pleased with this list. I'm very very pleased to see CAPTURING THE FRIEDMANS get the nomination, but I think that Errol Morris and FOG OF WAR will win.

DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT

ASYLUM

CHERNOBYL HEART

FERRY TALES

ASYLUM deals with immigration and the INS in the U.S. in particular as it deals with a Ghanaian woman who was caught with a fake passport. CHERNOBYL HEART is a short about the ecological nightmare caused by Chernobyl. Bet that's not a pretty story. FERRY TALES is apparently about a group of women that talk and put on makeup everyday on a Staten Island Ferry. Personally, I'd say ASYLUM will win.

FILM EDITING

CITY OF GOD

COLD MOUNTAIN

THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING

MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD

SEABISCUIT

CITY OF GOD should win this. The editing in that film is astonishing. Really powerful. SEABISCUIT would be my second pick in this category.

FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM

THE BARBARIAN INVASIONS - Canada

EVIL - Sweden

THE TWILIGHT SAMURAI - Japan

TWIN SISTERS - The Netherlands

?ELARY - Czech Republic

Haven't seen EVIL, but I've seen the other 4 - by far TWILIGHT SAMURAI is the best film. It is absolutely tremendous. That's why it appeared in my top ten this year. An absolutely brilliant film. Perhaps this will get distribution over here... and not be edited to shit or dubbed!

MAKEUP

THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING

MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD

PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL

Just give this to Weta now!

MUSIC (SCORE)

Danny Elfman - BIG FISH

Gabriel Yared - COLD MOUNTAIN

Thomas Newman - FINDING NEMO

James Horner - HOUSE OF SAND AND FOG

Howard Shore - THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING

Give this to Howard Shore. I really do love James Horner's score for HOUSE OF SAND AND FOG though.

MUSIC (SONG)

"Into the West" - THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING - Fran Walsh, Howard Shore, Annie Lennox

"A Kiss at the End of the Rainbow" - A MIGHTY WIND - Michael McKean & Annette O'Toole

"Scarlet Tide" - COLD MOUNTAIN - T Bone Burnett & Elvis Costello

"The Triplets of Belleville" - THE TRIPLETS OF BELLEVILLE - Benoit Charest, Sylvain Chomet

"You Will Be My Ain True Love" - COLD MOUNTAIN - Sting

Oh man - Give this to TRIPLETS OF BELLVILLE!!! God I love that song!

BEST PICTURE

THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING

LOST IN TRANSLATION

MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD

MYSTIC RIVER

SEABISCUIT

Personally, as soon as I had heard those other nominations for CITY OF GOD, I kinda expected it to somehow pull out a nomination here. That would have ruled all! That said. The King will Reign!

SHORT FILM (ANIMATED)

BOUNDIN'

DESTINO

GONE NUTTY

HARVIE KRUMPET

NIBBLES

Oh God, Please.... Please give it to DESTINO so Roy Disney can take the stage and call for Eisner's head. Please. Please give it to Roy Disney and the spirit of Dali and Walt. Please!

SHORT FILM (LIVE ACTION)

DIE ROTE JACKE (The Red Jacket)

MOST (The Bridge)

SQUASH

(A) TORZIJA ([A] Torsion)

TWO SOLDIERS

I have no idea

SOUND

THE LAST SAMURAI

THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING

MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD

PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL

SEABISCUIT

Oliphaunt scene wins. Though KILL BILL VOL 1 owned all the above.

SOUND EDITING

FINDING NEMO

MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD

PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL

Um, this should go to FINDING NEMO - they edit bubble noises real good. Oh, and fuck you Academy for no KILL BILL VOL 1 nom in this category!

VISUAL EFFECTS

THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING

MASTER AND COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD

PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: THE CURSE OF THE BLACK PEARL

I love ILM's Zombie Pirate Skeletons, but I love Shelob, big oliphaunts stomping, fell beasts and Gollum more.

WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY)

Robert Pulcini & Shari Springer Berman - AMERICAN SPLENDOR

Braulio Mantovani - CITY OF GOD

Fran Walsh, Queen of the Geeks & Peter Jackson - THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RETURN OF THE KING

Brian Helgeland - MYSTIC RIVER

Gary Ross - SEABISCUIT

I so want to see Queen of the Geeks take the mike, but personally, I believe that AMERICAN SPLENDOR is gonna grab this one. Though idiots may give it to MYSTIC RIVER.

WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY)

Denys Arcand - THE BARBARIAN INVASIONS

Steven Knight - DIRTY PRETTY THINGS

Andrew Stanton, Bob Peterson & David Reynolds - FINDING NEMO

Jim Sheridan & Naomi Sheridan & Kirsten Sheridan -IN AMERICA

Sofia Coppola - LOST IN TRANSLATION

Sofia will win. This is the award she gets, that and Bill Murray's Best Actor win.

Overall - a pretty good job. Would have loved to have seen AMERICAN SPLENDOR in there instead of MYSTIC RIVER. But that's due to my obsession with that film!

Readers Talkback
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  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:56 a.m. CST

    CAN I JUST BE THE VERY FIRST TO SAY WHAT THE FUCK????

    by MentallyMariah

    Okay I said it, No I am going to go back to sleep!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Keisha!

    by devanjedi

    The great welcome surprise- Keisha Castle Hughes for best actress! If she wins... faith in award ceremonies restored!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Did LOTR get enough nominations to win?

    by Cerebud

    Who knows?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Interesting that Keisha Castle-Hughes got a nod...

    by Dog Of Mystery

    Loved WHALE RIDER. Nice to see it get some kind of recognition.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:57 a.m. CST

    SUCKAS!!!!!

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    MANOMANOMANOMANOMAN!!!! THOSE BOOBS WERE SO SCARED OF LORD OF THE RINGS THAT THEY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT ELSE TO NOMINATE!!! The boobs of Hollywood are lactating today!!!...And thus, Johnny Depp? - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:58 a.m. CST

    how long has the animated feature category been around?

    by durhay

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Not First.

    by Chastain-86

    What, no Ashton Kutcher for his brilliant work in "Cheaper By the Dozen?" I'm shocked, I say. SHOCKED.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:59 a.m. CST

    City of God

    by alter

    Why no City of god in best film if not foreign language film?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:59 a.m. CST

    the Academy has a hard on for Marcia gay Harden...SCARLETT JOHAN

    by MentallyMariah

    Just give the gold to RETURN OF THE KING and call it a night! This will be the most boring Oscar telecast in history! We all know who is going to win....Mystic River and Seabiscuit and Master and Commander as Best Pictures? THE 3 Most fucking BORING FILMS OF 2003!!!

  • what was the topic about????

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9 a.m. CST

    Good Choices

    by JohnnyOats

    the only missing noms are Sean Astin and Eddie Vedder for Big fish. not that i wanted either to really win, but they should have gotten their props.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Does this seem like an awful lot of first-timers?

    by BenjaminGrimm

    Even a lot of the people who have been around for a while (Depp and Murray, for example) haven't been nominated. I haven't gone down the list carefully or anything, but it looks like it's 50% or so first timers.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Screw you guys, I'm going home...

    by reignman79

    I hate you all so very, very much.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:01 a.m. CST

    OSCAR

    by Scripteaser

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:04 a.m. CST

    MAKE UP for Master and COMMANDER? man the Oxy Cotin has gotten t

    by MentallyMariah

    Serriously next year I am not waking up for this shit again! I am sad to see Jennifer Connelly Snubbed for House of Sand and Fog but THANK GOD Naomi Watts is in there!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:04 a.m. CST

    What happened to Cold Mountain/Last Samurai????

    by milkybar

    This is a film that swept the noms at the Bafta's, seems to have met critical acclaim outside of the States, and is doing great guns over here right now. Same with Last Samurai.... Don't get me wrong, I am happy to see LOTR get the nods, and same for Lost in Translation - Bill Murray had better win.... but I just do not understand what went sooo wrong in the eyes of the Academy to pass these two films over in favour of Seabiscuit.... Seabiscuit??? I guess most of them remember it from when it was real life and not a film, which is why they voted for it....

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:04 a.m. CST

    A Glimmer

    by remfast

    The fact that they even nominated Johnny Depp is a sign that maybe things are finally starting to change around the academy. 5 years ago and that type of role wouldnt have had a chance of even getting a nod let alone a nomination. Also great to see that Lord of the Rings is poised to clean up.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Hey Harv...how's that oscar budget???

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    Am I the only one giggling that Cold Mountain got no big nominations? Sadly...I will now be seeing Pirates of the Carribean with the tagline "Nominated for five Oscars!!!"....ooo...I cringe....And thus, I really need to drink to forget! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:06 a.m. CST

    No Sean Astin for Best Supporting Actor?!?

    by CKnightShift

    Someone oughtta be strung up from the nearest telephone pole by their circular reproductive units - with piano wire - for not including Astin on that list.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Anybody seen.............

    by CriticalBill

    Girl with a Pearl Necklace? Now that's a movie......

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Ha, ha, ha, ha.

    by Grando

    Cold Mountain almost struck out. Man, that film was about 2 and half hours too long....

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Durhay--in answer to your question....

    by MrBadd

    The Animated Feature category was created two years ago. It was done because the medium is actually improving, in ways of storytelling and (of course) animation, and there were some people that did not want another Best Picture spot taken away from some bland and boring live-action film. And, yes, FINDING NEMO should have gotten a Best Picture nom. There are people who have actually said THE TRIPLETS OF BELLVILLE is a better film. Not only do I seriously doubt that, but most people have not even heard of the film as it was never given a commercial (wide) theatrical release, so we cannot make a comparison to a film nobody has even seen, much less heard of.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Last Samurai isn't a surprise, Cold Mountain is...but neither go

    by minderbinder

    On the whole, not too bad. Nice to see noms for Danny Elfman, Nemo, Depp, Murray, Triplets, the girl from Whale Rider. I've certainly seen worse nomination lists from the Oscars. And go Weta for 2 of the 3 nominations with Master and Commander.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Where's the Hulk?

    by Doom II

    The most amazing film EVER made! The f/x were seamless and the acting was spot-on perfect! At times, I couldn't believe they were using CGI to create the Hulk. It looked so real! I am a sarcastic bastard this morning.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:11 a.m. CST

    You may mock...

    by Grando

    ...but Hulk should have been up for the editing award.

  • Bill Murray deserves something for all the years he has been on screen. The man is a national treasure. Also, Keisha Castle-Hughes was perfect in

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:15 a.m. CST

    OSCAR

    by Scripteaser

    Interesting selection of films and talent. For the first time in years this award list favours the geeks. The clear leader of the pack being Return of the King - Johnny Depp being recognized not so much for a performance, but for simply being cool. Bill Murray, one of the few comic actors with impeccable timing and a strong understanding of irony and pathos. Peter Jackson deserves all the awards possible - clearly not just for the final film of the trilogy, but for the trilogy itself. And in the broader sense for injecting back into cinema a sense of wonder, of the epic, of scale, and really justifying why films should be seen on a big screen in the first place.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Needs more Nemo...

    by Delete Me

    Can't wait to see Belleville, but for now I'm cheering for Nemo, which in my opinion deserves a best picture nomination, even more so than ROTK does.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:16 a.m. CST

    the only thing interesting about ROTK noms...

    by nushustu

    is the fact that they got ZERO acting nominations. Count 'em: zero

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Shoulda Coulda Woulda

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    Well...reading over all the list now....All I can say is we all would have been better off letting the people of New Hampshire nominating while they were marking ballots.....And thus, where's Open Range? - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:17 a.m. CST

    NO SAMARAI!

    by fargenbastich

    Yeah! No Tom Cruise or Samarai for top honors. I'm happy now.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Your winners (keeping in mind I haven't seen most of these movie

    by rev_skarekroe

    Actor - Ben Kingsley (because Ben Kingsley + ethnic character = Oscar gold). Supporting Actor - Ken Watanabe (because The Academy LOVES giving supporting awards to foreigners and children. Or foreign children). Actress - Diane Keaton (because she nails Jack Nicholson). Supporting Actress - Patricia Clarkson (becuase I've never heard of this film). Directing - Peter Jackson (becuase they feel obligated to give LotR a major award). Picture - "Mystic River" (what, you really think they're going to give it to a FANTASY?). sk

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:17 a.m. CST

    JOHNNY DEPP? WHAT THE HELL?

    by microwavable?

    and no cinematography for "lord of the rings?" that beacon-lighting scene alone should have earned that - but i guess the special effects clouted its chance. and that Mighty Wind song nomination is pretty cool. overall, these are slighty weird picks. i dare say the Golden Globes got it a little better this year?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:19 a.m. CST

    the only thing interesting about ROTK noms...

    by nushustu

    is the fact that they got ZERO acting nominations. Count 'em: zero. I know that Oscar noms aren't significant, but I still think that there is a good reason there were no acting noms, and this pretty much defines the whole problem with the LOTR movies: kick-ass action/fighting scenes; not one damned character to give a rat's ass about aside from a guy who's cgi. When, 100 years from now, the action scenes from these movies look quaint, ain't nobody gonna watch them. Meanwhile, some of these more character driven stories will still be watched.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Is it just me, or does anybody else think LOST IN TRANSLATION is

    by Dr.Killkov

    LOST IN TRANSLATION should have been called YAWN FACTORY. Everybody who thinks they are film experts will stick up for LOST IN TRANSLATION, but come on... when it all boils down to it, it's not that great of a movie. And yes, I understood the friggin film!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:25 a.m. CST

    memo to Mr.Nobody from Miss Mental...

    by MentallyMariah

    I really thought Jennifer Connelly nailed the pathos and desperations of her Kathy Nicola and played off very well against Ben Kingsley..yes the movie was depressing as hell and what not but in real life shit like that happens...Master and Commander was just masterfully directed and recreated but was BORING AS FUCK...You can ask anyone who has seen it...I had half my audience snoozing by the middle mark...It's only a matter of opinion and I would rather be mental then be nobody anyday! Kiss Kiss sweetie! P.S I hope Naomi Watts wins over Charlize, Charlize was Amazing but watch 21 Grams again...Naomi nails it to the tee even with her weird looking tits!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:25 a.m. CST

    No Cinematography nom for ROTK?

    by FluffyUnbound

    So the art direction was nomination worthy, the costumes were nomination worthy, the makeup was nomination worthy, the editing was nomination worthy, and the direction was nomination worthy. We have great sets, perfect costumes and makeup, and well-composed shots strung together well, but somehow the frames themselves aren't good? I don't get it. Well, I know it's piling on, but I thought the BEST aspect of ROTK was the cinematography, certainly moreso than the editing, which was serviceable but not spectacular.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Sean Penn should be hung like a traitor

    by Jeditemple

    He should have stopped with "Shanghai Surprise." Revoke his citizenship and ship his sorry butt to Iraq.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:25 a.m. CST

    SEAN ASTIN

    by Crookback

    robbed. period. while all the principal actors gave outstanding service to their roles, Sean brought the true heart of Sam with him to each scene over these 10 hours of film. Just like in the books -- the soul of the film, of Tolkien's view of the the hard-working little man with a big heart, lays with Sam. While the pursuits of the other characters dealt mainly with saving a fictional middle earth, those challenges lay mainly in our imaginations. The success of these films comes from Sam, and his mission to protect and save his friend. That's the element that made these movies connect to people around the world who wouldn't look twice at a fantasy film. As someone who's been in showbiz all his life knows, awards and even salaries can't buy respect, and Sean - from me to you - you should be walking tall.

  • Fucking Academy.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:29 a.m. CST

    TRIPLETS OF BELLEVILLE GOT A BEST SONG NOM!!!

    by Stanley Spector

    The best movie song in years was recognized... I am utterly stunned. This will make me happy for a month.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Andrew Lesnie already won his Oscar...

    by mclove42

    so as this year seems to be a referrendum on the trilogy at large and ROTK's already going to win enough awards, I imagine they figured there was no need to single him out for two of the things, even if his work on ROTK was deservingly brilliant.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Sean Austin

    by AlwaysThere

    Doesnt deserve jack. Mikey > Sam

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:33 a.m. CST

    YEAH FUCK COLD MOUNTAIN HAHAHAHHA

    by JimmyRabbit

    YES fuck you Weinstein 'only' 7 nominations but I predict NO wins hahahahahhahahaha ROTK 11 noms YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH thats the way its supposed to be bitches. ROTK should heve gotten cinematography and sound-editing (TTT won for that) noms, but hey whos complaining: OH YEAH WEINSTEIN SUCK IT! Oh I forgot Weinstein is executive producing ROTK : AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh. Glad Ken Watanabe got nominated! And City Of God: WooHoo.

  • Yowza ... the songs were one of the better things about "A mighty Wind". And to see Mitch and Mickey perform live ... priceless.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:36 a.m. CST

    The Year of the Hobbit

    by kafka07

    Glad to see Bill Murray is nominated, and Lost In Translation. Johnny Depp...wow didn't see that coming, but that's very cool. He's a great actor, one of my favorites, just didn't expect a nomination for this kind of role. I think Sean Astin deserved a nomination, too bad he's not listed. I was very pleased that Howard Shore won the Golden Globe for best score. Looking at the list here for that same category, methinks he'll win an Oscar for it too. I think LOTR's chances for best picture or best director are much better this year than the first two times.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:36 a.m. CST

    More Oscar worthy, tna butt kissing worthy!

    by awrobert

    Russell Crowe did great. Tom Cruise did good. Nicole Kidman was fine. But thank God they gave us some new blood. This year feels more "Oscar" worthy than "Butt Kissing" worthy.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:37 a.m. CST

    another year, another reason why the Academy blows

    by pevenscrwn

    not a single acting nomination for ROTK. for all the special effects it is the acting that makes that movie as special as it is. no wonder why the Academy awards mean less and less in regard to actual quality in the public's perception. 25 years ago an Oscar carried much more weight with the moviegoing public than today. utterly forgettable movies like "Chicago" and "Beautiful Mind", that are already fading out of memory, are examples of the Academy's decline. how are any of the performances in those movies better than the ones given in LOTR? they aren't. no matter, PJ is laughing all the way to the bank and after he delivers a "King Kong" that blows people away his next deal will make $20 million look like a bargain.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:37 a.m. CST

    No Cinematography for ROTK?!

    by Dink Meeker

    The sheer scope of the shots, and the ingenius way PJ pulled us into so many emotionally sensitive small moments even in the midst of the most epic, enormous scenes should have garnered ROTK THE OSCAR. What a damn oversight. I'm thinking ROTK might be the greatest achievement in cinematography I've ever seen. I can't believe they snubbed it. Anyone else remember when Dances With Wolves took home the cinematography Oscar because everyone raved that the vaunted, "Buffalo Hunt" was so dynamic and epic? In ROTK, there are scenes that make the buffalo hunt look like a quiet intimate moment. The battle of Minas Tirith ALONE was worth a nod for cinematography. Oh well, Rock Me.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Uhh, MrBadd?

    by Karakul

    Have you SEEN "The Triplets of Belleville"? No? Then SHUT YO MOUTH, BI-ATCH!! *** Seriously though, "Triplets" is THAT GOOD. I'd love to see it pull a dark horse for Animated Feature, but I think "Finding Nemo" is just too beloved by now. You think a "never-heard-of" film can't win Animated Feature? Look at fuckin' "SPIRITED AWAY" last year!! It doesn't MATTER if a film is a limited release or not - voters do get little things called screeners, you know. Even now, after all the banning nonsense earlier this year. *** I'm also very glad to see "Triplets" get a nom for Best Original Song - that thing is so annoyingly catchy! *hums* "Swingin' Belleville rendez-vouuuuuuz..."

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Okay, down the line....

    by XTheCrovvX

    Best Actor--Much as I love Bill Murray, he has his Golden Globe. Share the wealth, let Depp get his award. All others may go to hell.....Supporting Actor--Except for Last Samurai and Mystic River, haven't seen any of these....but having seen Mystic River, though, I can tell you here and now that Tim Robbins is taking up space stolen from Sean Astin.....Best Actress--Go Whale Rider. Charlize Theron will win, though......Supporting Actress--Renee Zellweger's Kathy Bates impression is nominated again...Sigh...Animated Feature--And what kind of drugs was the Academy on when they gave Brother Bear the nomination over Millenium Actress? Good to see Triplets of Belleville up, though....Art Direction--Go LOTR......Cinematography--Okay, all fanboy-ism aside, of all the categories that LOTR should've logically owned from minute one, I thought this one would be it... However, I never saw 3 of the films on this list, so, i dunno, maybe they're worth it, maybe not. I'll reserve judgement.....Costume Design--Go LOTR.....Directing--Go LOTR....but very cool of the Academy to nominate City of God.....Documentary--Never saw any of these....Editing--...er...i'll just be honest, I want LOTR to sweep the Oscars like you wouldn't fucking believe......Foreign Language--Never saw any of these....Makeup--LOTR.....Score--The Academy owes Howard Shore a deferred Oscar from last year, too....Song--Into the West.....cool that A Mighty Wind and Triplets of Bellville god nominated, though.....Picture--Much giggling to be had up front at Cold Mountain's expense.....Satan has a special layer of hell available for the Academy should Return of the King lose....Short Film Animated--Two words: Second Renaissance.....Short film Live--Haven't seen these.....Sound/Sound Editing/Effects--Also duh....It boggles the mind how the hell The Matrix got shafted here......Writing--I *want* to say duh here too, but I also think American Splendor got kinda shafted this year....if this is the only category in which they can take home gold, so be it......Original Screenplay--If Lost in Translation wins, kickass....If Finding Nemo wins, even more kickass.....That's all folks...see ya next month.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:41 a.m. CST

    ROTK not that Good!!

    by fevriul

    I'm sorry it has to be said it was an ok film with some nice battle scenes, but that was it, to semtimental at the end, pacing was off. There has been better, far far better.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:46 a.m. CST

    awrobert's right

    by kafka07

    I agree, I get less of a sense of the typical "butt kissing" this time 'round. How delightfully refreshing, like a Glade Plug-In. Ah, but those Plug-In's contain insidious carcinogenic chemicals just waiting to invade and mutate your cells. We'll see. I hope Cold Mountain eats it.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:47 a.m. CST

    city of god

    by mag7man

    In answer to why 'City of God' did not get nominated for Best Foreigh Film? It did. It was nominated last year when it was submitted but beaten by the inferior 'Nowhere in Africa'. Glad to see it get nominated for four awards though. Lots of surprises and glad to see Miramax finally got knocked out of the Best Picture category but I wouldn't have minded seeing City of God there even though they released it. Lots of surprises make it interesting and I'll be pulling for 'Triplets of Bellville' to win Animated Film and everyone who likes animation should search it out. Scarlett Johanssen was robbed but nice to see surprises like Samantha Morton, Patricia Clarkson, Djimon Hounsou, Keisha Castle-Hughes and Holly Hunter

  • FOTR 13 noms, TT repeats best VFX, now ROTK 11 noms. And 4/4 golden Globe wins to boot. At least they didn't give bullshit noms like last year for Chicago's 13 noms. LOTR has made the Acadmey more honest this year and bringing back a sense of wonder to cinema again. It deserves respect not only for that. Where is Matrix Rev/Rld and Samurai now? SW should have won except Lucas' insipid directing ruined the BP Oscar earned by his collaborators Marcia Lucas, Kurtz, Kasdan and art designer McQuarrie. Brian Johnson who did SW efx design worked on 2001: A Space Odyssey. That's why the X-Wings and spaceship design wowed the world back in 1977. Most people still don't know anything about Annie Hall except it beat SW for BP and Woody Allen was in it much less seen it. SW had groundbreaking vfx and earnest actors but juvenile direction. ROTK has groundbreaking vfx AND professional film drama.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Gotta give the Academy some credit for City Of God

    by The guy

    Would've been really sweet if City Of God would've gotten a Best Picture nomination instead of Lost In Translation. But oh well. The folks at Miramax must be kicking themselves now that this little low budget film with non-actors, got more (major) nominations than their 100 million dollar star studded piece of crap. I'm disappointed Dirty Pretty Things didn't get more love.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:51 a.m. CST

    I hate to be a LOTR homer but...

    by Damer1

    Where is Sean Astin?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:51 a.m. CST

    FUCK YOU ACADEMY FOR DITCHING KILL BILL VOL.1!!!

    by braine

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:52 a.m. CST

    seven???

    by _nobody_

    Sea fucking biscuit got seven..

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Johnny Depp gets one and Not Andy Serkis.

    by Dolmes

    First off, I am a big fan of Johnny Depp but for him to get an Oscar nod and not Andy Serkis is ridiculous. What Mr Depp did in Pirates Of The Caribbean was take a stupid summer script and play it for what it was, a light comedy not to be taken THAT seriously. Fine, it's a nice entertaining film 3/5 no more, no less. To then say it's his finest performance to date is absurd. Andy Serkis on the other hand must feel slightly downbeat. Not to give it any kind of acknowledgement at all just because it's a digital creation onscreen shows no imagination at all. If he had been wearing prosthetics the Academy would have been on to him in a flash. But no. They can't see past the keyboards. The digital character is great, but without Serkis as a template it would have been another jar jar binks crossed with the hulk. Bye.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:56 a.m. CST

    cinematography rotk

    by hector

    Gotta agree, im shocked ROTK didnt get a nod for cinematography. I thought that would be the one catagory most appropriate for praise, that scene with the lighting of the beacons alone was one of the most amazing shots ive ever seen.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Another year of setting you douchebags straight

    by Barry Duffman

    Let's see...Sean Astin: didn't do anything with the role that wasn't alread predetermined by Tolkien, jackson, et al. He was good, but NOT special....Andrew Lesnie won before, and as you guys contend LOTR is one long 11 hour movie, then why award him again for the same movie...if a LOTR actor was snubbed, it was McKellan again. Maybe the most perfect casting ever...SEABISCUIT was OK, but that spot would have been better served by BIG FISH or TERMINATOR 3...Bill Murray deserves to win simply because he is Bill Murray. If you award for body of work then there has never been a better case...fuck COLD MOUNTAIN...Paul Bettany???....Albert Finney???...INTO THE WEST is a piece of shit, but so are the rest of those songs. If only somebody could have put GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY WOMAN by The Darkness into, say, HOUSE OF SAND & FOG, then we'd have something..ROTK wins. It deserves to. Although, the sight of watching the geeks commit hari kari if something else wins might be too good to pass up. MYSTIC RIVER, despite what this site is trying to tell you, is an outstanding old-school work of theme, ideas, and emotion (despite some imperfect story-telling, but ROTK isn't perfect either, I just checked back and it's STILL ending)...there. See ya next year, fuckers.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Go chicken cam, go!

    by Human Tornado

    City of God may very win best cinematography, since it's the only nom where it's not head to head wih ROTK. Miramax-haters beware, "City..." is a Miramax movie =). SCARLETT JOHANSSEN and SEAN ASTIN are sorely missed.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:01 a.m. CST

    If "Return of the King" wins anything worth a fuck, I'll suck so

    by Mr. High

    Seriously. But, since that has no chance in Hell of happening, I'm fairly sure I won't have to. I must say that I'm just a little fucking upset that Sean Astin didn't get nominated. That's fucking bullshit. He had probably the best supporting role all fucking year. Anyway, the only actor I even gave two shits about was Johnny Depp, he's had one coming for a long fucking time now and SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN NOMINATED FOR "FEAR AND LOATHING IN LAS VEGAS" But, noooooo, so fuck this stupid awards show. Any way it goes, it only going to show once again just how fucking far detatched from anything having the slightest thing to do with film period.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Spineless Academy

    by 5secondfuse

    Let's face it, those boring old stuck in the middle ages wanker tosspots at the academy wouldn't have the fucking balls to give the gold to Johnny Depp even though his performance was awesome and the only one people will remember from this years movie releases. They'll give it to that whiny bitch Sean Penn for a performance in a very tedious and dull film that shouldn't be in the short list anyhow. Just give out the gold to the gold to Lord of the rings like it truly deserves to make up for the last two years of catastrophic best picture and director winners and save this award show from the farce it has become over the last ten years.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Serkis

    by Creflo A. Dollar

    Hate to say it, but Serkis didn't get the nod due to his acting ability. I'm not talking about his Gollum, that was great. I'm talking about what the Academy judged him on, his actually real screen acting, in the beginning of ROTK. It just wasn't good. He was Gollum already, not Smeagol. We needed to see a pre-ring Gollum, and what we saw was that Smeagol was kind of a bastard already. I don't blame Serkis, I blame Jackson, that scene should have been directed WAY better. Almost had a Proctor & Gamble Downy quality to it. Ick. Should have cast the Hulkster anyway: "Give me my precious, brother!"

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Proof there is a God?

    by dr. robert

    Cold Mountain DIDN'T get nominated for BEST PICTURE this morning!__________Does anyone agree that Lost In Translation is the most overrated film in recent memory? I'd rather rewatch Francis' Jack (remember that one?) than see "I'm Gonna Hideout In My Hotel Room And Sulk 'Cause Nobody Here Speaks English" again._________BTW: Are the nomination of Depp and Seabiscuit someones idea of a joke?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Yes, let's check our numbers...CM only got 72 on metacritic, LS

    by minderbinder

    Sure, some people loved them but many didn't, the overall reviews weren't great.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:11 a.m. CST

    re:Serkis

    by Dolmes

    If that is the reason then the oscars is a bigger sham than I thought. I believed it was voted upon by people who knew a thing or two about film. I blame the director for Johnny Depps entire performance and he still got a nod. The director didn't have the balls to say "No Johnny, stop it's not funny anymore".

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Horay to the Oscars for nominating Keisha Castle-Hughes for Best

    by Lost Skeleton

    Whale Rider is a wonderful little movie that has not gotten any publicity or love from the awards season until now. The Oscars really got this one right. Actually, the Oscars got it all right this time. They should get kudos for nominating Johnny Depp for Pirates. I also enjoy the fact that the overrated Cold Mountain only recieved a number of nominations while ROTK was deservingly rewarding. Overall, the nominations are very diverse. Hell, I am happy as hell that City of God got a nomination for best direction. Overall, well done Academy!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Lost in Translation: at best average

    by zeilnhofer

    While I worship at the alter of most things Murray; this was not a "best picture". Not even close. Bill was very good in it and I applaud his nomination because it is probably the only movie of his that he will ever have any hope of getting a nomination from such a stuffy organization as the oscars (who look at comedy, sci-fi, and fantasy as if they are dog shit on their shoes, but if you overact the part of a mentally handicapped person it is Oscar gold baby). Not sure why everyone has such praise for this movie? Here is the basic rundown of the movie: Bill: do some schtick with the Japanese natives. Stock footage(damn well looks like stock footage) of Tokyo city lights from a driving car. Scarlett's ass. Stock footage. Bill's schtick. Stock footage. Oh look, they are singing karaoke; aren't the Japanese strange and funny. And don't say that I don't get the alienatoin one feels alone in a strange place. I get that, I travel a lot for business and have been in those situations. This is just a poorly made film masquerading as an art film. And I'm sure that a little depotism is involved. While I'm sure Sophia is very talented (I liked The Virgin Suicides), if she were a nobody than this would not be up for best picture.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Actually, Smeagol wasn't Peter's fault

    by Human Tornado

    It was Fran Walsh who directed that entire scene.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:18 a.m. CST

    No Cinematography Nomination?

    by Sprigga G

    Can't believe there's no nomination for Cinematography when Air-biscuit and Girl with a Pearl Necklace got it. The acting awards were always going to be a long shot, but then again the IMPRESSIVE Johnny Depp got a nomination for a fantasy character. Just hope LOTR wins all 11

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Seabiscuit? and Serkis. If you haven't seen Samurai, don't.

    by krylite

    The only thing I got my attention about Seabiscuit was the name and "colorful" motion blurred poster. Samurai had so many "blurred" action scenes were running around trying to mask their CGI armies copying FOTR when Sauron started whacking homeruns. Don't watch Samurai, Cruise shits on a whole culture just to go for Oscar gold, they try to put ROTK in its fantasy "place", and they end up with a racist Top Gun piece of crap. Watch those Howitzers continuall MISS Cruise freaking distracting sweaty hair. And the inane battle ending. Let's just say ROTJ Ewoks genuflecting and chanting uummmm-ahhh, ummm-ahhh scene vomit-inducing memories. There's a ridiculous "NO MINDDDDD!" idiotic replay of the last 30 seconds of fighting in black and white slow-moo so Cruise can shack his slow-mo moving sweat off his sweaty hair which could be a beer or Dentyne-ICE commercial trying to convince you he's a better Swordsman than Miyamoto. Have to agree about Serkis though. Jackson fucked up the intro scene trying to make Smeagol and Deagol look like grinning retards with fat cheeks which belong in his earlier horror-comedy movies. Smeago didn't look small nor innocent as described by Gandalf in the book.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Am I the only one who thinks that "Hulk" should have been nomina

    by Mad Hamish

    (the lonely chirping of crickets)

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:24 a.m. CST

    by minderbinder

    Hamish? Yes.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Go City Of God!

    by Lacloake

    Pretty shit nominations all round really, I can honestly see 'Mystic River' winning Best Picture I really can! What a Boring Movie!!!!! Still, if City Of God gets director for Fernando Meirelles and Writing for Braulio Mantovani then it'll have been a pretty good night!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:29 a.m. CST

    I agree, hamish. But...

    by Barry Duffman

    I think HULK will be more appreciated down the road. It's one of my favorite movies of the year, but I can see why it's viewed as such a misfire. Discussing it is futile...more editing snubs: KILL BILL. Christ, NOTHING for that movie. It deserved sundry tech nods. Oh, and one more time: Serkis can't be nominated unless you also nominate each and every tech guy who worked on him. Serkis was a part of Gollum. A big part, but NOT the whol performance, unlike, say Depp and the other deserving actors. Gollum was no more emotional, to me, tha Ang Lee's motion capture work as Hulk. But I'm smarter than you guys so...

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Weep in silence, dungeonmasters: zero nominations for Sean Astin

    by Bill Maher

    The real reasons so many of you nerds thought Astin deserved the award are: (A) You wouldn't know acting if it stole your 25mm lead miniatures and (B) you, like Samwise are a bunch of big fat fags and identify with a tubby poo-stabber.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Return of the King of all popularity contests

    by MiserableRainGod

    11 nominations to ROTK? Hopefully it will only win 5 or 6 awards...the only ones it deserves; EXCLUDING best director and best picture. PJ made too many bad decisions, and the movie was too flawed. Did any ACTORS from this movie get nominated? What's up with that? How could they consider a movie for best pic when they don't even care about any of the performances in the film? Because it sold more tickets, that how. Popularity contest, baby!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Why the Oscars dont matter

    by williammunny

    I've said it before on this site, the Oscars should not be taken seriously. The list of people who have never won one (excluding the lifetime achievements awards- essentially the "we screwed up so many times so here's an award" award) is much more impressive than the list of those who have won. The fact that ROTK got so many, but not one for Astin or Cinematography shows how phony the whole thing is. I've seen too many interviews with Academy members who admit they don't even watch all the movies they are voting on. It's all a big circle jerk.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Acting nods - movies with ensemble casts get ignored

    by minderbinder

    Look at LA Confidential - you've got Spacey, Crowe plus a bunch of other guys and none of the actors got nominated. Are you saying the acting was crap in that?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Well, damn...

    by CI_180

    I'm sure quite a few people will disagree with me, but there were a few things...missing: 1) Millenium Actress. They nominated that piece of shit BROTHER BEAR, when they had THIS around? My god, the Academy must have gone insane! 2) Cold Mountain. It's long, it does drag a bit, but I FAR prefer it to SEABISCUIT. It deserved the BP nod, and where was Nicole Kidman for best actress??? 3) The Last Samurai...was far superior to Master and Commander. Both were good movies. TLS was just plain better. 4) Kill Bill Volume 1. My person favorite movie of last year...It was a bit heavy on the violence, but it at least deserved a few noms. Great movie. They shouldn't have snubbed it. 5) The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions. How the fuck can the Academy fail to nominate the two most visually spectacular movies of last year? Craziness! My gripe list could go on and on...at least they nominated Johnny Depp.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Noms

    by werttrew

    Disappointed: No Sean Astin nom, no Best Picture for In America, no supporting actress for Ricci in Monster. No American Splendor or Station Agent. Gratified: 11 for LotR, 4 for City of God. Bill Murray & Johnny Depp finally invited into the In crowd. Keisha Castle-Hughes, Holly Hunter, & Patricia Clarkson got noticed. I'd give these nominations a 7.5/10. Best in recent memory.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Lack of Kill Bill

    by DanielKurland

    I am very disappointed. The film was like pure fun and adrenaline translated into cinema. The film may have not been too deep, but after you saw it, it got in your bloodstream, and you craved for more. I am not saying it deserves Best Picture (although that would have been nice), but no niminations at all is pretty harsh. Especially considering the absolutely brilliant choice of music in the movie and how it is so perfectly and effortlessly put together with scenes that just fit so great. I can only hope Volume 2 will receive it's fair share, since it is more dialogue-oriented, and the Academy may then recognize the film for the achievement it is.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Did anyone seriously think Bill had a shot at nominations?

    by minderbinder

    Maybe what, sound? No shot at directing or even editing, that's for sure. Even the music is mostly from old movies so it wouldn't even be eligible.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Miserableraingod

    by Dr. Death

    Are you a fucking idiot? Your asking how they could consider giving ROTK a best pic nom when that's all we've been hearing about for the last two months!!! Did you honestly think it wouldn't get nominated?! Who the hell cares about ROTK not getting any actor awards. Think before you post again raingod.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:46 a.m. CST

    thoughts

    by Xocxoc

    First ROTK is going to win it all no doubt, and yes Lost in Translation had two wonderful performances but wasn't that good of a film. *** I agree Scarlett Johansson is the most glaring omission especially considering the two films she starred in both got multiple nominations. Sean Astin comes in second. *** Too bad Miramax did not see City of God doing as well as it did, they could have made it their Best Picture push and knocked someone else out. *** Now that Randy Newman finally got an Oscar last year, Danny Elfman now holds the distinction of most nominations without a win, and Big Fish will not get him one. On the other hand, I believe Sean Penn is also an often nominated never won who could pull off an upset considering two great performances this year.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Shit watch Kingsley walk off another Oscar, Keaton for Actress,

    by Big Bad Clone

    The Academy is a bunch of pussies just like the Grammy people. They make daring nominations and just stick to the conservative stuff. And if Charlize whens, then Ugly will become the new retarded and every pretty actress will be slopping on wacky prostetics on their mug to grab the gold. Shit, I was hopping fat would be the new retard because Renee Zellweggar look so much hotter "fat" than in Chicago where she was so skinny she could walk through a closed door.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:49 a.m. CST

    mag7man and Irreversible

    by alter

    Thanks for the answer to my city of god query mag7man. Now, why isn't Irreversible nominated? I know it was made in 2002, but wasn't it out in the US this year? far better than Seabiscuit.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:50 a.m. CST

    No Sean Astin=Travesty

    by MemBirdman

    Sorry, but my expectations for this year's Oscars hinged on at least the nomination of Sam for Best Supporting Actor. I will watch because I want ROTK to do well, but not nominating him means my enjoyment of the Oscars will come to an end after this year.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Why Annie Hall won BP and SW didn't.

    by krylite

    Maybe you should eat your morning eggs first instead of having them on your face Ilac. quotes: "A lavish evening had been organized around the screening for the fourteen directors and their wives at the Warner Goldwyn Hollywood screen. the film was preceded by a cautionary announcement that some of the special effects stil had to be added to the movie..the directors thought it was simply a catastrophe. "Some of the directors fell asleep--so did one of the secretaries," -- Empire Building. Most directors thought it was crap including Coppolas in terms of the directing. Spielberg, howerver thought despite the mediocre directing, audiences would love it. Sure the movie is beloved, but it doesn't hold up as well dramatically as compared to ESB. Despite the directing, Guinness and Brian Johnson's X-wing, Tie-fighter and spaceship designs and perhaps Lucas' story which he ripped much off LOTR carried the movie.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Where the hell is BIG FISH and PEARL JAM?

    by JefferyLebowski

    BIG FISH was a lovely, magical movie. Completely emotional without being manipulative. How an over-rated, uninvolving, artsy-fartsy bullshit movie like MASTER AND COMMANDER or a cookie-cutter, faux-inspirational tearjerker like SEABISUIT managed to edge this movie out is beyond me. And how could those dinosaurs ignore PEARL JAM's brilliant song?...BTW, all you MATRIX fanboys... what happened? Who would have guessed a year ago that neither Matrix sequel would earn one single nom?? I guess the Academy isn't that impressed with introduction-to-pop-philosophy screenwriting or Super Mario Brothers action sequences.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:54 a.m. CST

    MATRIX was robbed. Seriously.

    by christonomist

    Yeah, you heard me. In another proof that the academy is moody and judges categories based on how they feel about the film overall. Matrix was snubbed. In 2000, Episode 1 lost all its FX/sound awards to Matrix because people dug the latter film and hated the former. Now, ironically, Matrix has gotten a taste of its own medicine. Say what you will about dialogue, acting, or plot, the FX WERE tremendous. Even granting a few glitches with CG Neos...remember the invasion of Zion? Anybody?? Come on! In fact, before the nominations were out, there were 9 films being screened for nomination consideration, and neither flick even made that list! It had Hulk and X2 but no Matrix to be found. Seriously....FX-wise...X2 a greater achievement than anything in either Matrix??????? Hate the films if you must, but at least give the technical geeks their props.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:54 a.m. CST

    NO SCARLETT LOVE! I am hurt.

    by FofR

    Grrrrr, she should have bee nominated for either girl with pearl OR lost in translation!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Lost In Translation also surprised me.

    by Triggerfish

    It was a great little film, and both Murray and Scarlett were great in it, but it wasn't one of the best of the year. I would have given both of them an acting nomination and left it off best picture.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Serkis for fucks sake!

    by Dolmes

    Okay, Andy Serkis could have just spent three weeks doing a voiceover and then gone home to film deathwatch. We'd have been left with a george lucas inspired charcter that the actors were not interacting with. Fourtunatley they didn't. If they had taken Andy Serkis and put him in the makeup he wears as smeagol crawls into the cave at the start of ROTK, he would have recieved a nomination wouldn't he? Yes no? Give a fuck. Serkis is superb and has rested any fears that cgi can replace actors, it can't, not without an actual actor delivering a performance to copy, because that's all the tech guys did. They did a great job, but left to their own devices they would have screwed it up. WAKE UP!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11 a.m. CST

    HOLY SHIT, this is totally unexpected...

    by FD Resurrected

    CITY OF GOD up for 3 Oscars but NOT Best Foreign Film??? That young actress for Whale-Rider??? Stunning, amazing, unprecedented. I thought CITY OF GOD was rejected by Academy members for being too graphic, so it's about FUCKING TIME for justice! Although I'm dead wrong in my guess that Nicole Kidman would be nominated for DOGVILLE (or settle for COLD MOUNTAIN)...no Lars Von Trier?! WTF, it's like leaving out R. Lee Ermey for Best Supporting Actor and Kubrick for Best Director for FULL METAL JACKET! The Academy dashed my expectation >8-(

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Howard Shore

    by DJ_Jonny_Flash

    I guess Howard Shore was just <a href="http://www.filmtracks.com/comments/titles/lord_rings02/index.cgi?read=315">having sour grapes</a> when he said the stuff last year about sequel music being ruled ineligable. A quick look at the <a href="http://www.oscars.org/76academyawards/rules/rule16.html">oscar rules</a> shows that they are the same as <a href="http://www.oscars.org/75academyawards/rules/rule16.html">last years</a>.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Ben Affleck---he's been J.Lo'd!

    by alexr

    Wow, I guess Ben's work in "Gigli" and "Paycheck" must have cancelled eachother out. Seriously though, who the fuck are 75% of these nominations? Who the fuck is Keisha and who the fuck has seen some boring-ass movie about fucking whales? Geez, you people having orgasms over some boring movie need to calm down. I haven't seen ONE of the best actresses nominatewd because NON ONE HAS SEEN ANY OF THOSE FUCKING FILMS. Why can't Hollywood can't some shit right and give the awards to movies people actually WANT to see? There;s a reason no one has seen: whale rider, pieces of april, 21 grams, in america, house of sand & fog. If they were such great fucking movies, they would make it to mainstream, you dumbasses. Lord of the Rings better win and I agree, either Ed Wood or Dr. Venkman for best actor. I could care less about everything else and I think Sean Astin got screwed also.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Actually trying to forget the Zion scenes..

    by krylite

    Rippoff of Aliens in the mekanics. The squigglys blurred by like Galaga swarm waves in 20 year old arcade games. Basically the efx of Matrix Rev/Rld. while a lot of wasted MIPS cycles, didn't serve the story effectively in any way. They just tried to convince audiences that there was a story.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Finding Nemo?

    by Kanyn22

    I don't think I'll ever understand why Finding Nemo has come across as some great movie. It was awful! It's the same stupid storyline Disney's been cramming down our throats for years. Yes, it's visually stunning, but am I the only one who's tired of the "I'm-going-on-a-quest-along-with-my-bumbling-sidekick" storyline. The jokes sounded like they came from bad commercials-"what is it with men and asking directions?" (shudder) I think I chuckled once at the whale Language scene but after it kept going on and on and they did it a million times I was offended they thought audiences were so stupid. Their box office showed me I guess.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Supporting Actor Travesty...

    by Lowell

    ... was that Chris Cooper was not nominated for his terrific performance as the old horse trainer in Seabiscuit.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:11 a.m. CST

    why the fuck does this shit matter to anyone?

    by MisterGrimloch

    unless you are part of the academy, why would ANYONE give a flying fuck who "wins" an award? this is all political, elbow rubbing, palm greasing, elitist bullshit. the oscars are nothing, and have never meant anything. and as for the LOTR fanbase who are so worked up about this, consider the fact that already, twice, your precious films have been snubbed. so really, even if the award goes to Jackson, and ROTK for picture, what does it matter? if it didnt matter when FOTR lost, it doesn't matter if ROTK wins. you can't have it both ways, kids. the oscars mean nothing, and frankly, if i were a big fan of ROTK, i would prefer the film NOT win, as any recognition by the hypocritical academy would seem like a blemish to me. i stopped "worrying" about this nonsense many years ago. you all would do well to do the same.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:11 a.m. CST

    Am I in the right place? Is this really AICN?

    by Trav McGee

    Where's all the screaming from the Cult of Matrix about getting shut out of Visual Effects? And the other techie awards? Hmmm? Noone? Anyone? Huh. Imagine that. ...As to the "meaninglessness" of these or any awards, that depends on your definition. As a barometer of what one should like, or as a measure of art or merit, nope, of course not. On that level YES, ALL AWARDS ARE BULLSHIT! But they ARE a REward with very real and tangible benefits for the winners. Not counting Cuba Gooding Jr. And so there's no harm in rooting for the deserving to get what they've earned. Don't think of them as Seals of Approval. Think of them as raises or bonuses--practical assets. BUT, like in office politics (you now, "Oscar politics"), will they go to the "best," or the best suck-up...? THAT'S what makes these things interesting, and why fans will root for their own. ...So, where's the Matrix heads again? Are there... any left..? Man, I shouldn't bait like that, but of all places I expected them to show up at AICN to wail and gnash their teeth. Sorry, no Oscar blurbs on the Revolutions case!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Orion's Angel...

    by MisterGrimloch

    the Golden Globes were NEVER about movies, and nor are the Oscars. pay it no mind. its all aggravating bullshit.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:14 a.m. CST

    No School of Rock best song???

    by saneman

    First of all, if City of God qualified, how the hell does it not make the final 5 when it was the best movie of the year. I liked Keisha, but Evan Rachel Wood was even better in Thirteen. While Scarlett was good in LostInTranslation(yeah for Bill Murray!), we need to stop overrating this fine looking woman. Yeah, Harry, I would like to tap that ass too and no flimsy pink panties will stop me. Seriously, her acting consists of just staring vacantly into space or looking sullen. Even Leili Sobieski showed more range in the inferior My First Mister. Chiba was better than Wantanabe thanks to Zwick shortchanging Wantanabe's character by cramming Cruise into every frame. Still, I won't begrudge Ken's nod. Serkis as Smeagol actually acted in ROTK longer than Dench in Shakespeare in Love. What's the excuse for leaving him out this time? I agree about Kill Bill getting shafted in sound and cinematography categories. It easily had one of the best sound mixes in recent years. Loud only when needed, good directional mix. And the cinematography for KB was more creative than the relatively easy one for Cold Mountain which was mostly a result of good location scouting. And where is the fucking love for School of Rock. Not a single best song nod? May the goblet of rock render those geezers unconscious!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:15 a.m. CST

    master and commander

    by hercuteness

    it's sad, really, that weir is up against jackson. it's one of the most fantastic films this year and certainly blows the pants off of cold mountain and MANY others nominated in each category. harry, shame on you for ignoring this film. i can't stress it enough, GO SEE THIS FILM.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Oops, wait, there was a couple.

    by Trav McGee

    My bad! Still, go back 7 months, and one would have then expected this Matrix-shut-out news to have exploded this thread and shut down AICN's servers. ...Now then, who wants to bet the Academy yet again forgets that the awards are (supposedly) for the BEST acting, not the MOST acting? I'm pulling for you, Keisha Castle-Hughes!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Nice to see Depp get a nomination, too bad it is for a shit film

    by Shawn F.

    God, I hated "Pirates of the Caribbean".

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:23 a.m. CST

    christonomist

    by changer624

    I agree. As much as I was disappointed by the films, they could've at least been nominated for some technical awards. And did anyone know that the Wachowskis got nominated for worst directors at the razzies? The films were a letdown but they don't deserve to be put in the low ranks of Gigli & the Cat & the Hat. But the Matrix snubbing aside, I'm happy with the nominations & I hope that ROTK sweeps the night.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Worst Omission: Robert Duvall for Best Supporting

    by NiceMarmot

    Except for that, and the cinematography category, where I expected "Open Range" and "RotK" to get some nods, this isn't a bad collection of nominees. Then again, this was a pretty bleak year for movies. But Castle-Hughes as Best Actress, and "City of God" getting directing and editing noms, and "Master & Commander" getting so many was a nice surprise, though I would've liked to see Bettany get included in best supporting. OTOH, I'm not happy with "Lost in Translation" getting anything, let alone so many, but I can't imagine the academy duly honoring its next closest rival, "21 Grams". Too stark and depressing for their tastes. Murray as BA was the closest thing to being an acceptable nom for LiT, though it's far from his finest work. But I guess he deserves some recognition for doing his best with such a wretched script. Still, "Cold Mountain", "Last Samurai", and "Big Fish" were properly ignored. Heck, I might even tune in this year.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Could a complete Kill Bill every been nominated for best picture

    by Big Bad Clone

    Probably not, but I sure did enjoy the shit out of that movie. Just fucking great. BTW if Lost in Translation gets Best Picture could they retroactively give one to Before Sunrise? Oh and Dench won for Mrs. Brown but was given it for Shakespeare in Love for her two second appearence. So if Serkis really wants to win one, he needs to do a cameo in the next Miramax film the Weinstiens buy Golden Globes for. Fuck the Academy if Murray doesn't win (After Rushmore and Ed Wood, he'd better fucking win)

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Renee Zelwegger can't fucking act

    by Mister Pink

    How does old chipmunk-cheeks keep getting rewarded every year like she actually has talent. She dosen't. She talks like a little girl. That's her schtick. She plays that charcter in COLD MOUNTAIN like Sandy the squirrel from SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS. Why is she such a darling? She's not even all that hot. Any way, for actess I'd like to see either Charlize or that kid from WHALE RIDER. Is Jennifer Connely nominated in this category? She was good in HOSAF and I'd like to have sex with her.For best actor I'd like to see Sean Penn because I think he's the best actor in Hollywood and he's had one of these trophies coming for years. For best Pic, ROTK (natch), best diector, PJ, best supporting actor/actress-- like Bill Murray used to say on SNL, "who gives a damn?'

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Lost In Translation is not overrated

    by SongOfTheSausage

    It is a difficult movie to put your finger on what is great aobut it but I have seen a lot of movies and I have never seen anything quite like this. This is a special movie.. it is inspired and has great performances from 2 perfectly cast actors who have incredible chemistry. The only thing about this movie that I have a problem with is that I have trouble believing that Sofia is entirely responsible for it.... I imagine Francis Ford Coppola writing it and Wes Anderson and Spike Jonze Directing it behind the scenes for some reason. I havn't seen her earlier work... is it as good as this and handled as expertly? This movie feels like it was crafted by an old wise master with a renewed lease on life.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Ditto on Duvall not being nominated. Everything out of his mouth

    by Big Bad Clone

    The movie was a bit long but gave us stellar scenery and a great gunfight. Man, fuck the academy.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:37 a.m. CST

    what the fuck???

    by studiddy

    it will suck if Depp wins the oscar for that sad piece of shit POTC. he has done some fine work, that was far more deserving. i really would have like to have seen: The Hulk, Big Fish and Open Range at least mentioned.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Click here if you want to read the greatest anti Lost In Transla

    by The guy

    This movie should've been nominated for the Emperor's New Clothes award. I almost busted a gut laughing when the (horribly miscast) Scarlett Johannsson says the words "My husband". Bill Murray does deadpan as well as anyone in the business, but can anyone tell me what the hell was SOOO great (or different) about his performance in L.I.T? He did the same shtick he's been doing since forever. But since this time it's in a film directed by a darling of the critics, I guess it's worthy of an Oscar nomination. While i wasn't crazy about Virgin Suicides, I know enough about film to appreciate good direction. The visual style of Virgin Suicides definitely worked, and I can honestly say I was impressed. Did anyone else notice how flat L.I.T. was visually? It seemed like someone went out of their way to make Japan look as unattractive as possible. In the entire movie there was only one shot that was remotely interesting (no, not that one). I'm talking about the shot of Bill Murray on the golf course. In a perfect world Quentin Tarantino would've gotten a best director nod instead of Sofia Coppola. Of all the hype this film has gotten, nothing offends me moe than the (undeserved) acclaim it's getting for the screenplay. I want you to think of your favorite character driven film. Or any film that features strong writing (Pulp Fiction, Godfather, As Good As It Gets, Terms Of Endearment, Annie Hall, Goodfellas, all come to mind). Apply this test to whatever movie you came up with: 1) At the end of this movie did the characters SAY anything you wish you'd said? 2) Did the characters DO anything you wish you'd done? L.I.T gets a big NO squared. The characters in L.I.T. are pathetic. They're cowards. We have a philosohy major who doesn't say anything remotely profound or deep. She's in a marriage that's comletely unbelieveable, and you begin to question her intelligence for marrying such an asshole in the first place. Then we have an aging movie star who's a total condescending prick. (I can't think of any major "laughs" in this movie that didn't come at the expense of the Japanese). He doesn't have the balls to leave his miserable marriage, or make a move on Scarlett Johansson, or even just say no to doing the Japanese commercials. L.I.T. will go down in history (along with Gangs Of New York) as one of the most(unjustifiably)overrated movies of all time.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:38 a.m. CST

    The Matrix films had far better effects than Pirates of the Cari

    by Big Bad Clone

    I'll give you Master & Caommander because of the seemless mix of practical and digital and of course the scope of RotK but the Matrix should be nominated for redifining the flying superhero on screen. Fuck the academy.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:39 a.m. CST

    I'd be happy if LOTR won all its categories EXCEPT FILM EDITING

    by Tall_Boy

    seriously. It had good editing in the battles but editing is also pacing a film and, well, just look at that last strech of the film. Go City of God. Oh and I agree with the wacky poster who said Hulk should have gotten a nom for editing - it was one of the most inovative uses of editing I've seen in a long damn time. (regardless of the otherwise questionable aspects of the film, anyone and his brother has to admit the editing was freakin mind-blowing)

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:43 a.m. CST

    Cold Mountain snub makes up for American Splendor snub

    by saneman

    OK, I don't think we will ever have oscars pick a great list of candidates. At least, this year they got a decent list. Kudos to those idiots for not rewarding Cold Mountain a bunch of major oscars. I can live with the Jude Law nomination even if I feel it's not one of his stronger performances and robs Giamatti of a nod. But great to see oscar see through Kidman's wretched performance. I like Kidman, but man oh man, she sucked in this movie. The way she read those letters in that wretched accent made me want to grab the letters out of the screen and read them myself to avoid listening to her. Nice to see Master and Commander recognized for visual FX used in a very smart way for the movie. I think those sentinels and the fake stupid burly brawl killed Matrix's chances despite some good work in the rest of the movie.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Score issue

    by SuengMina

    Can someone please explain to me the situation with Howard Shore and the elusive "no sequels to be nominated for best score" bull shit? Is Howard just a bitter fucking John Williams wanabe, or can I still listen to the soundtracks without the tarred notion of his pettiness running through my head?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:46 a.m. CST

    where the f**** is GOOD BYE LENIN & KILL BILL???????????????????

    by drjones

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Samantha Morton finally gets some recognition

    by GypsyTRobot

    She's bitched publicly about Harvey Weinstein denying her a role in Gilliam's next flick because her arms are too fat (oh the irony!) and has dissed the Hollywood stardom system in general so she probably won't get the Oscar. But it's great that she got the nod. Anyone else see Morton in Morvern Callar? Minority Report? or Jane Eyre? She's like a female Ian Holm with her ability to disappear into completely different roles. Anyway, I hope she shocks Hollywood with her slightly overweight, under-exercised physique spilling out of a skimpy outfit. Show them crap-acting stick girls what a real woman looks like.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Sean Astin

    by Homer Sexual

    It is a bit of a surprise Astin wasn't nominated. I didn't really like his performance because, as someone else posted, he seemed to spend the entire movie either a)repeating "Mr Frodo or b)crying. He cried so much I was getting giggly every time he would tear up again. I guess they had to add a long, uninteresting extra coda showing Samwise w/wife and baby hobbits, because he sho was enamorado of Mr Frodo. Yet, the annoying tearfest is the sort of thing the Academy usually rewards. Plus he gained weight for the part. Go Figure.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:50 a.m. CST

    It's an honour just to be...

    by Dru

    Ah, fuck it: no 1 believes that crap. To add to the debate, YES, Sean Astin DID deserve a BSA nom. Though Depp's BA nom almost takes the bitter taste away... almost. Too bad that Murray's gonna walk away with it. It's nice that Elfman got the nom too, but... Oh yeah, go "Finding Nemo!" Out.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:52 a.m. CST

    I never thought I'd be saying this but...

    by mwhelan67

    Cold Mountain, though overrated was far better than sea biscuit. Also Big Fish and Last Samurai were better than both, WTF?!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:53 a.m. CST

    GypsyTRobot

    by Ribbons

    Harvey Weinstein telling Samantha Morton she's too fat to work in the movie business? That's too fucking much. Forget Eisner, somebody needs to stage a coup at Miramax. Seriously, what have these slapheads done in the last couple of years? Greenlighted a Scorsese movie? Ooooh, ballsy.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Kudos to Keisha

    by GypsyTRobot

    She was great in Whale Rider. Hope she has a great movie career ahead of her.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Mystic river is a masterpiece !!

    by Slo. Zombie

    Mystic river is (with notable exceptions like amazing City Of God, provocative The Fog Of War and truly mesmerizing Master and Commander) the only film that really deserves all of his nominations! Moriarty, Harry and Co. wouldn't be able to recognize good old style filmmaking even if it would bite them in their ass!! As for Sean Astin oscar nod ... all i can say is : Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, you stupid, fat hobbit !

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Will Catherine O'Hara be performing with Eugene Levy?

    by GypsyTRobot

    Wow, another song at the Oscars that isn't vomit-inducing. Keep it up Acadmey, maybe a trend will start.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:57 a.m. CST

    What's up with the bitching about Depp? He's a great actor and

    by minderbinder

    Of course he doesn't deserve any credit because he was hilarious and wasn't playing a crazy, handicapped or drug addicted guy. And hate to tell you this but Pirates was loved by audiences. Good reviews and great box office, why are you suddenly surprised that it has FIVE nominations? I was saying it would get nominations MONTHS ago (and people laughed).

  • Jan. 27, 2004, noon CST

    What Rene Zellweger and not Natalie Portman

    by spike fan

    Seriously but Zellwegers peformance was not that great while Portman for me was the best thing in that boring film. She had far more chemistry with Law (who was also not that great) than Kidman.Also proving that her shitty peformances in Stawars are down to Lucas not her. As for Depp I so go Depp he deserves to win not just Pirates (Which he was BRILLIANT IN) but he also RESCUED Once a pon a time in Mexico which with out him was pretty shitty.To me a man who can make a bad film ok deserves a an award.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:01 p.m. CST

    "Can someone please explain to me the situation with Howard Shor

    by minderbinder

    They changed the rule last year and it pretty much ruled out sequels. (In case you didn't notice, neither of John williams' sequels got nominated either) Same goes for a couple other categories, specifically makeup. Not sure what's different this year, I've heard that policy has changed but haven't seen it on paper yet (may be just a change in the interpretation of the rules instead of the rules themselves).

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:02 p.m. CST

    my 2 cents

    by Electric_Monk

    No big surprises

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:03 p.m. CST

    All you bitching about Lord of the Rings

    by spike fan

    forget that SEAN BEAN should have got a supporting actor nod and was not even nominated. So this is kind of late justice.Besides Astin was fantastic as Sam. As Peter Jackson what he has done with three films will go down in cinema history as the greatest trilogy ever he deserves the director award more than anything

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Dr Death, Minderbinder

    by MiserableRainGod

    Dr. Death, I may well be a "fucking idiot" as you say, but not because of my post. See, I fully expected ROTK to be nominated for best pic and best director in spite of it's flaws. The whole Oscar thing is a popularity contest, and ROTK is very popular. I'm not questioning it, I'm merely disagreeing. As a side note, Dr Death, did anyone ever tell you you're a rude prick? Try being civil once in a while. Minderbinder (I love your name, by the way. That's a book I want to revisit!) I'm not knocking the acting in either film. I'm just saying that it surprises me whenever the Academy honors a film with a best picture nod but doesn't think that any of the performances in that film stood out. We're talking about overall "best" here, and I think that performances certainly are 1 aspect of a film that need to excel for it to be the best. Please, don't think I'm knocking L.A. Confidential here - I'm knocking the Academy and their illogical ways (well, perfectly logical when you realize it's a popularity contest).

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:04 p.m. CST

    drjones is a moron for fucking up this talkback!

    by FD Resurrected

    Thanks a lot, you subject header entending retard!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Bill Murray = Robin Williams

    by Bor

    Murray is riding a well-deserved wave of cache for his acting ability. He's been one of the most consistently hilarious comic actors around for decades. Its funny to think back to the Razor's Edge days - people had a hard time buying him in any role that didn't involve gophercide. Robin Williams experienced a similar wave of credibility in years past, but squandered it with sacharrine bullshit roles like "Patch Douchebag" and "Jacob the Gaywad."

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Why LOTR will fade away...

    by HungryJoe

    Many a film are fun for many a reason, with one of those reasons being tons & tons of fun dialogue to quote. This is true of the INDIANA JONES trilogy, the STAR WARS films, etc. etc. The dialogue of films like those have become part of our everyday lexicon. However, after struggling through helicopter shot after helicopter shot in FOTR, and after moderately enjoying TTT, there's not one damn line that I can remember. The dialogue serves the story, but nothing more. I have yet to see ROTK, so perhaps I'll be proven wrong there, but that's my two cents. Flame on!!!!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Sean Astin?

    by Nice Marmot

    Man, I LOVE everything about the LOTR film trilogy but come on! Sean Astin deserves an Oscar nom? Puh-lease! P.S. If Tripletts doesn't hit my town soon I'm going to go nuts! I've been dying to see it ever since Harry first posted the first trailer.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Great Year, I'd Say

    by Ribbons

    My only real problem was with 'Brother Bear' in the Best Animated Feature category. Other than that, it's a pretty good year: no automatic ass-kissing (a la Nicole Kidman's absence), very diplomatic (which may or may not be a good thing, but at least the range of sources is more eclectic), and they didn't listen to Newmarket and put Keisha Castle-Hughes where she belonged, in the Best Actress Category (they listed her as a supporting actress to try to eke out a nom). Seriously guys, yeah, it's a shame that Andrew Lesnie didn't get a nom, and yeah, it's an even bigger shame that Astin didn't get a nom, but there are other notable absences besides for LotR-related ones, too, and that movie has more nominations than any other one this year (not to mention directing achievement and costume design are back, and deservedly so). Overall, it's a much better year than it has been in years past, and it would be a shame if the majority of this talkback was devoted to how much of a "travesty" it is that Astin and Lesnie didn't put more feathers in your cap (which is fucking ridiculous in itself). Not sure how I feel about 'Seabiscuit,' although some of its detractors have been overly critical of the movie for being so American. Haven't seen 'American Splendor,' but I suspect it's overrated. The concept is cute, but I don't know if it's something Best Picture worthy.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:18 p.m. CST

    L.A. Confidential not winning acting Oscars

    by EntrailSoup

    For those of you are are stating that L.A. Confidential didn't win any acting Oscars, You need to be reminded that Kim Basinger did indeed win Best Supporting Actress for her role in that movie. Admittedly Russel Crowe and Kevin Spacey should have deservedly won something between them, but an acting oscar was awarded to a performance from that movie.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:22 p.m. CST

    lost in translation was so god damn bleh

    by MiltonWaddams

    it's like an arthouse movie for people who can't handle arthouse movies. so you get all these high school chicks walking out of the movie talking about "it wasn't your average hollywood movie". it was a peice of shit, as was virgin suicides. go back and watch that movie and prepare to be underwhelmed. the movie was just plain boring, it was seconds away from having a montage where bill and scarlett try on funny hats. fuck that movie.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Bad, bad stuff

    by Bcphil

    The thing that strikes me as vary odd is that the Matrix Revolutions didn't even get one nomination for best picture or best actor. I guess if your not friends with Pete Jackson you don't get to be nominated. Revolutions was easily one of the best movies of the year, and no nominations is quite a slap in the face.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:31 p.m. CST

    FUCK Weinstein Bros for discriminating against Samantha Morton f

    by FD Resurrected

    Excerpt from the article: "Did they ask her to slim?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Lost in Translation was a great movie

    by ThingsThatTimDog

    I'm not sure what some of you folk on this board are talking about but LIT was a terrific movie. I guess if a rampaging horde of Orcs ran amuk through Tokyo it would have been Oscar gold. Its a real shame SCARLETT JOHANSSEN didnt get nominated for her role.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Lord of the Rings has taken home ONE OSCAR already in 2004!

    by Josef K

    In the special technical awards: To Stephen Regelous for the design and development of "Massive," the autonomous agent animation system used for the battle sequences in THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy. Massive takes a new approach in simulating behaviors of large numbers of computer generated extras (a.k.a.) "agents." Each "agent" contains a primitive software "brain" used to develop behavioral rules simulating a wide range of behaviors. In THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy,over 200,000 agents were controlled in several scenes. http://www.oscar.com/nominees/scitech02.html

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:43 p.m. CST

    It'll be fun to watch the show this year

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    ...just to see THE LORD OF THE RINGS have its overrated, blue-toned ass handed to it by LOST IN TRANSLATION (if the voters are feeling wacky) or MASTER AND COMMANDER (if they feel boring). I wonder if McKean and O'Toole will perform the A MIGHTY WIND song or Levy and O'Hara will do it in character...who am I kidding? It'll be Mitch and Micky. Will they kiss this time too?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Fu**

    by Ribbons

    Netscape.com is already complaining about how Nicole Kidman was "shunned." Give me a fucking break.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:49 p.m. CST

    What about Longest Erect Nipples by an Actress?

    by SexyBeast

    Naomi Watts would win that hands down. Not that it would be a bad thing, her perky plus nipples are sexy.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:53 p.m. CST

    By the Way

    by Ribbons

    I like Nicole Kidman. But just because the designated Oscar girl was in a movie and didn't get a nomination doesn't mean she was "shunned." It's bullshit media sources like Netscape and Access Hollywood that create these celebrities in the first place. Did anybody see "Access Hollywood" the other night? They kept telling everyone they were interviewing that J.Lo was on the red carpet. Tom Cruise's reaction: confused, then "Okay." Was that some sort of refexlive joke? What the fuck were they expecting?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Mitch and Micky at the Oscars

    by Margot Tenenbaum

    They should back up Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara with a gigantic orchestra or have some Debbie Allen dance routine going on during the performance just to confuse the hell out of Mitch.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Gotta Clam Down

    by Ribbons

    Sorry for the outbursts, folks.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Academy is making bad choices

    by tango fett

    Man, this Oscar show is going to be boring. I'm glad ROTK got nominated a lot, but where the hell is Matrix? Yeah, they dissapointed, but you can't deny the visual effects were awesome. Reloaded and Revolutions should just be nominated as one movie for at least one oscar. Oh well, they're awesome movies, and I'll like them all the same. ROTK all the way. And where the hell is Gigli?(sarcastic voice). Cheers.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:05 p.m. CST

    What happened to Paul Giamatti's nomination as Harvey Pekar!!!

    by jon-e-blaze

    i mean that was the best performance of the year,and Penn gave a good performance but he wont show up and Mystic River had good performances but best of the year?!? no it needed a stronger script and story.Nicole Kidman must be pissed she likely wont show up this year!! But im happy to see LOTR:ROTK & Peter Jackson nominated!!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:07 p.m. CST

    Who'll Win (odds and upsets)

    by Mr. N

    For Best Picture odds on are for ROTK, but no offense it doesn't deserve it, it's a great trilogy but they're pretty and that's that, none of the others really deserve to win (maybe 'Lost') but the Academy really sucked the big one in not nominating American Splendor or 21 Grams... they're just afraid of the radical. Actor- Bill Murray should get it but the Academy might swing to Sean Penn who they've nominated time and again. Actress- Charlize Theron will get it but Naomi Watts otta (Haven't seen Whale Rider). Sup. Actor- Tim Robbins is practically a given, if he wins Penn won't, I don't think the Academy will award more than one actor in this movie. The upset could be Alec Baldwin whom the Academy feels indepted too just cause he's a Baldwin. Sup. Actress- Renee is the odds on and most likely will win it. But Patricia Clarkson could be a surprise since she's becoming a real preformer and Holly Hunter was outstanding and probably deserves this above the rest but she's won already. Directing- It'll go to Jackson but it SHOULD go to Coppola, she's the upset pick here but the Academy feels that she'll do another amazing film later and they can award her for that (she's a given for Screenplay). Animated- Go Tripletts!!! The most under-the-radar-masterpiece-of-the-year... ten times better than Nemo and should win, in fact I think it will... Nemo will walk away with Sound like Harry said and that's it...

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:07 p.m. CST

    'Hulk' editing

    by pulpculture

    Well, there are at least three of us here who recognize that "Hulk" -- whatever else one may think of it -- deserved to at least be nominated for Best Film Editing.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Yep, LA Confidential got an actress nom, but like I said it got

    by minderbinder

    There was one female role so she had a shot at a nomination (and win). There were many male roles so in typical academy fashion, none were nominated. (and no, none of the female roles in LotR were big enough to merit a nomination) And don't feel too bad for Lesnie, he won for fellowship.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:13 p.m. CST

    Depp, Penn, Murray

    by Jervis Tetch

    Depp's nomination is great, but I'd say there are a couple of precedents: Lee Marvin's drunk gunslinger in "Cat Ballou" and John Wayne's drunk lawman in "True Grit." Both won Best Actor Oscars for over-the-top drunk comedy performances. I figure the Academy members would love to give Penn the award so he can make a political speech, but his performance was industrial strength Method-actor screaming, much easier to do than it looks (and Dirty Harry would have blasted his dumb gang boss's character to hell in ten seconds flat.) Bill Murray did the sharpest work, and you know he'll give the sharpest, funniest speech if he wins. P.S. MAJOR SPOILER on "Mystic River": overrated except for Tim Robbins work (he deserves to win and make his political speech) and the ending is almost exactly like Spike Lee's "Summer of Sam."

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:14 p.m. CST

    About the Howard Shore/Score Nomination thing....

    by XTheCrovvX

    Yes, they did change the rules last year, but the rule wasn't against sequels....the new rule states that a film has to be some percentage (i think it's 75-80 percent?) of new/original music in order to be ruled eligible (made primarily to ace out a film like Moulin Rouge or its ilk when most of its score is old songs). Thats why Shore was out last year, since TTT was a lot of recycled stuff from Fellowship....the reason he's up this year is because a great deal more of ROTK's score is brand new....Howard and Co. didn't even know it was eligible until sometime in December....they let the Academy know, boom, they get a nomination...hope that clears it all up. And on a different note, thankfully I'm at least not alone in thinking Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions got screwed for tech awards....

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Sorry Tolkien fans, the Academy has spoken

    by JackBristow

    I liked both FOTR and TTT, but I didn't think TTT was Oscar worthy and I didn't start to like FOTR until my second viewing (now it rules). But ROTK kicked ass and it deserves the award. That being said, sorry, no Best Picture award for PJ. The lack of acting noms speaks volumes, deafening volumes. As does the lack of a cinematography nod. With acting noms in three of the four categories, Mystic River will win Best Picture. Ugh. ROTK will get five awards: Art Direction, Costume Design, Makeup, Sound and Visual Effects. But no Best Picture, Director is a long shot, Writing is unlikely (it could get something because of any respect for Tolkien's work, but taking most of the Frodo storyline from TTT will hurt ROTK) and Film Editing doesn't feel technical enough. Music and Score are possible, but I won't hold my breath.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:17 p.m. CST

    "Oscars dont matter" = BS

    by AlwaysThere

    All of the Ring heads are saying this now, but come Feb 29th, when ROTK wins 7 or so awards, all of them will change their tune.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:20 p.m. CST

    No Satoshi Kon?

    by Gluecifer

    No Millennium actress? No Tokyo godfathers? Are they fuckin' blind? Well, great for Murray and Watanabe (even if Penn and Del Toro will win), for Peter Jackson, for Peter Weir (I loved Master and commander). Cool for City of god (not the masterpiece everyone's talking about, but what a movie anyway!). Fuckin' great! The twilight samurai got a nomination (too bad Hiroyuki Sanada wasn't nominated instead of, let's say, Johnny Depp, funny in Pirates...but nothing extraordinary). The funniest thing: an Oscar nomination for Ken Watanabe, but not for Tom Cruise (god, he must be pissed about that!).

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Hulk editing?

    by user id indeed!

    If the award were "Most Editing in a Motion Picture," I'd wholeheartedly agree. "Editing That the Audience Laughs at Fifteen Minutes into the Movie," sure. "Most Unintententionally Hilarious Death Scene Ever," that Talbot Death would be a shoo-in! All it needed was the Austin Powers theme in the backround. Huzzah for a surpre Depp nomination! I pray his red carpet appearance makes him go from "Sexiest Man Alive" to "Worst-Dressed Man of 2004." Also, does anyone know where I can (making quotes in air) "LEGALLY PURCHASE" the Triplets of Belleville song? The store I go to, "BLUBSTER," does not seem to "CARRY" it for "LEGAL PURCHASE."

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Pretty impressed all around

    by Jolard

    It has mostly been said already, but I am impressed with most of the nominations. I am excited to see ROTK with a good shot, and I was surprised and happy to see Depp's nomination. I think Murray will win for his excellent take in LiT. Happy to see Triplets in Animation, but would be happy to see either it or Nemo win. I too am extremely surprised to see ROTK snubbed for Cinematography, I thought that was locked. I hope Sean Penn doesn't win, he has been overacting for years trying to get a nomination. Good work overall, I am looking forward to the night. The Songs should be awesome, We will get to see Annie Lennox, Mitch and Mickey!!!!, Elvis Costello and Sting all perform. And how awesome will it be to see a live version of the Triplets of Bellville song! Awesome.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:24 p.m. CST

    A Kiss at the End of the Rainbow

    by GrandoCarIissian

    so happy that song got nominated... that means we'll get to see catherine o'hara and eugene levy perform at the oscar ceremony. do you think they'll do the kiss?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:30 p.m. CST

    My only big suprise- the Makeup nom...

    by Chthonico

    I tought for sure the Monster would win it after all the press on how extraordinary the transformation of Theron from ultimate hottie to ultimate skank. And no nomination???

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Good for ROTK

    by brena

    glad they led the nominations.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:38 p.m. CST

    No nods for Gigli, huh? And couldn't they have found a spot for

    by jules windex

    I LOVE witnessing the end of Cold Mountain, and especially the lack of nom for the wretched witch Nicole Kidman. Renee and natalie were the only good things about that film. Love the recognition for City Of God, Depp, Keisha, Naomi Watts and Holly Hunter. Don't like the snubs of Scarlett, Big Fish, Kill Bill, Sean Astin and Matrix fx. ROTK will win everything, but not because it necessarily deserves it. Only because its this year's "make good" choice.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Hulk

    by Gluecifer

    Yes! I'm not alone! I absolutely loved that movie! Ang Lee rules! A nomination for best editing would have been cool, as a nomination for best song (Velvet revolver, Set me free). But Brother bear instead of Millennium actress or Tokyo godfathers?????????????

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:42 p.m. CST

    City of God Rules!!!!!!

    by AlcantarinoMan

    As a brazilian AND a film lover, I'm proud as can be to see the weel deserving four nods for City of God!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Holy...holy shite

    by Dragonfire

    Cold mountain got snubbed. The last sumurai got snubbed. I haven't seen cold mountain and I thought The last sumurai was great but nothing special, but I have to say I'm somewhat shocked. Those two movies were being built up so much, and they each ended up getting about 1 or 2 major nominations. Eish. Anyway, cool that ROTK got so many nominations. Pity there were no actor nominations. I didn't really believe Sean Astin was going to get nominated, much as I wanted him to. He just IS Sam. They can't nominate him because he WAS the character, he did exactly what we expected Sam would do. Most of the time an actor has to have atleast one scene where he goes on a rambling monologue before he gets nominated for oscars anyway. Surprised Ian Mckellen didn't get nominated though. All the leads deserved nominations but Ian's the one you'd expect would get one, especially since the baftas nominated him. Funny thing LOTR getting nominated for make-up in FOTR and ROTK but not TTT, and Andrew Lesnie not getting nominated for cinematography probably because he won for FOTR, even though ROTK had amazing cinematography. Nice to see Depp get nominated too. Good on the oscars for that. Guess comedic acting finally qualifies as acting in the academy's eyes. I think ROTK should win every award except best music. I wouldn't mind if it got music but Howard Shore has an oscar for that already, and there wasn't that much new stuff for the ROTK soundtrack. He still deserves to win, it's just that I wouldn't mind if he didn't. I think it should definitely get best song though. As for best picture, is there really any movie that could sneak it from ROTK now, with what I thought were the two most likely to sneak it both getting snubbed? Lost in translation could probably sneak it, and maybe Mystic river, but the academy usually gives the award to the epic war movie. ROTK's the only war movie there. Master and commander's more of an epic sea movie. And Peter Jackson had better get that oscar. It was so awesome seeing Elijah Wood and Dominic Monahagan tearing up when he got the golden globe.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:45 p.m. CST

    IIac2

    by Blue_Demon

    Luke=Frodo, Obi-Wan=Gandalf, Han Solo=Aragorn ( they even meet in a bar for Chrissakes ) Vader=Saruman, Emperor Palpatine...crap...nobody in LOTR to match with Palpatine, a behind the scenes manipulator of all the action...hmmmmm. Oh well...my bad, you were right.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Who the f*ck is Sean Astin?

    by Lord_Soth

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Comedic Acting

    by Ribbons

    Correct me if I'm wrong (smarm.....overload....), but didn't Nicolas Cage get nominated for a comedic performace last year? Jack Sparrow didn't revolutionize the Academy Awards, folks, although it is refreshing to see them unabashedly offer up laurels for a comedic role.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:55 p.m. CST

    There should be an Oscar for best ensemble cast

    by GypsyTRobot

    There are too many characters in LotR all vying for screen time. All of 'em good actors, I can't criticize Peter Jackson for his casting choices. Don't worry, Ian McKellan and Sean Astin will wind up with Oscars or lifetime achievement awards or posthumous honors, one way or another. The Oscars are often handed out to those who have assembled a good body of work and are perceived as worthy of the award, i.e. "It's about time and (s)he deserves it." Or "They're real popular on Access Hollywood."

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Wouldn't it be funny if Morton won the Oscar for Best Actress

    by GypsyTRobot

    and the last sentence of her acceptance speech was: "I dedicate this award to Harvey Weinstein, whose dedication to physical fitness is truly awe-inspiring" while staring directly at him, with camera man in place to capture his blubbery outrage. Then Keisha tries to jump on his back and ride him to New Zealand. "Take me home, magical orca!"

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Kiss At the End of The Rainbow

    by RenoNevada2000

    Even better than performing the song in character would be Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara sitting through the entire ceremony in character from walking up the red carpet to winning the award. (Which they must you know.)

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:01 p.m. CST

    MYSTIC RIVER = piece of shit ; CITY OF GOD = movie of gods... C

    by Randfilms

    I can't believe people are flipping over MYSTIC RIVER. What a typical, music-swelling-at-a-moment-to-tell-me-what-to-feel, piece of trite SHIT! Master and Commander is totally cool. ...and CITY OF GOD-- well, it's just plain the most fascinating movie of the year. -R

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:01 p.m. CST

    No one saw that Whale Rider nomination, NO ONE

    by 007-11

    Good for you you endearing little girl you. By the way, Tim Robbins is practically a lock for Mystic River.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Actually, the reason ROTK didn't get nominated for any actor awa

    by Dragonfire

    There were so many characters that none of them have enough screentime to themselves to qualify for an actor nom. All the actors were brilliant, and they all worked together so well as a cast, and they all became their characters so well that their acting is taken for granted. For the actor to get nominated for an oscar he has to overshadow the rest of the cast, or have at least scene where he goes on some sort of dramatic rambling monologue. With ROTK, the film wasn't carried by one actor, but by a group of them. So, sorry trolls, but saying it got no actor noms is not an argument against it being a great film. Braveheart got no actor noms neither, and the lack of actor noms didn't stop ROTK from getting best picture and director at the Golden globes. If there was a best 'ensemble' award, then trust me, ROTK would win it. It seems that in order for a film to qualify as a "character driven" tale to most people it has to have no special effects. Just because ROTK has amazing special effects doesn't mean people automatically stop caring for the characters, and trust me, plenty of people cared for the characters who hadn't even read the books. Don't make the mistake of thinking 'you not like characters = no one likes characters'.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:09 p.m. CST

    kill bill?

    by jimmiescoffee

    where is it? no writing or directing nominations? fuck that and fuck mystic river, what a terrible movie. if sean penn wins over bill murray there will be a riot

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:12 p.m. CST

    I think the Last sumurai guy should get best supporting actor...

    by Dragonfire

    He far overshadowed Tom Cruise in that film.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Kill Bill Vol 1 gets shut out!

    by PumpyMcAss

    Just shows how few people in the Academy really love movies. Though too many geeks are too hard on Mystic River. It was my number 2 film of the year after Bill.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:27 p.m. CST

    WOW!!

    by Audets70

    Id say some real shockers here, compired to seeing the average stuff nominated a few days ago for the GG. Alot of people are laughing that COld Mountain didnt get much, but the fact is is WAS a GOOD movie, not great. In all honesty, I believe that even though it was a LESS THAN AVERAG movie, ROTK will win everything becuase since so many people have cried about Oscar ignoring Fantasy films, I bet the old fart voters will give it everything to look cool....might I remind everyone of the "cool" choice of Eminem for Best Song last year!!! I like how they almost picked out the worst of things just so ROTK could win. I mean come on, where is Matrix Revolutions in the effects category??? Oh wait, not nominate the best compition and its an easy win. Maybe Pirates could do it, but since ROTK was 75% special effects, its all it had going for it. Peoplec rying Astin was snubbed, Ha! He was far better in Rudy and when he cried in that movie I believed it. There is a reason why LOTR has only picked up ONE acting nom in the last 3 years, cause its badly acted. I know most of you wont see this for a few years, but trust an outsider that doesnt masterbate to the books every night in his parents basement! I wasnt shocked to see no Nicole Kidman, cause she wasnt that good this time, like in Hours. She shouldve won for Moulin ROgue, cause Hours was one boring mess. Everyone that saw CM knows Renee Z owns it. She was the one to watch in that movie. As far as best pic goes, Ive only seen 3. When is Master & Commander coming back? This much I figured if it got nomintaed. And Lost in Translation comes out on dvd in 7 days, worht buying or should I just rent it? But as standing, Mystic River was best, Seabsicuit was kindof boring so a far seconda nd ROTK was way boring so very much last. I think if the acedemy was just, they would have given it to TTT, cause that was the only good one. I predict ROTK will win like 8 of the 11, cause the academty will hand out plenty of pitty and the next day...feb 30th???.....fanboys around the world will have another sudden change in heart and suddenely, the oscars wont be so bad. It will be hypocrite city on the site I thinks.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Keisha from Whale Rider

    by dr. robert

    Does the Geek community realize that Keisha has a small acting role in Lucas' Episode 3: The Balance Of The Force?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:33 p.m. CST

    my 2 cents

    by Darth Thoth

    I hate these awards shows. They suck. Sean Astin got jerked. I'm glad to see Watanabe and Hounsou get nods. No nom for ROTK cinematography? Horrible. I really hope Twilight Samurai gets mass distribution over here. Kill Bill and The Last Samurai both got jerked across the board. I hate these crab award shows. I really do. Because they are so influential in establishing who's the "best" and "what films should be made, etc." It's so wack and just plain politics. But you know what? Props to those artists who make movies for the love of making movies and not to win awards and crap. Like KRS-One said- "... and the award shows, for pimps and hoes, and every other hypocrit..."

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:34 p.m. CST

    BIG FISH but big-time ROBBED

    by Pardon_My_Zinger

    With admittedly predictable geekitude, I do have to honestly say I thought that "Return of the King" WAS the best movie I saw all year. But Tim Burton's "Big Fish" was a close second. I thought that movie was incredible; maybe the director's best, with only the possible exception of "Ed Wood." Judging by the general reaction to "Big Fish," it seems Burton has fallen into the ordeal that Terry Gilliam has been in for most of HIS filmmaking career: that people either love his work or hate it; there is no middle ground. But that's absolutely no excuse for not nominating "Big Fish" for Best Picture; and CERTAINLY not for cheating Burton out of a Best Director nod. Oh well... *sigh* Go, "ROTK."

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:38 p.m. CST

    and another thing...

    by Darth Thoth

    Basically, I'm just a bitter old man and cry baby, lol. If my guys don't win everything sucks, lol. Don't mind me. My animosity towards the Oscars is basically pent up from previous years. This year's nom weren't as bad. But still, no sfx nom for Matrix? Horrible.

  • And that's just in the ROTK. Serkis, Woods, Boyd, Hill(Even in his limited screen time) and McKellan all were able to give moving performances without delivering every line like it was the tag line for the movie. His performance wasn't that great. I'm glad he wasn't nominated. And I love ROTK, I've seen it 4 times. With that said, give it to Benicio.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:39 p.m. CST

    BlueDemon, Ilac2

    by krylite

    Actually, don't get me wrong. SW is a great movie. But it wasn't great enough in the directorial department to actually win BP and with no acting noms. PJ beats Lucas scene for scene in any direction. More passages from Empire Building. Lucas emphasized to Kurtz he wanted to make a space fantasy movie with the emphasis on fantasy. He researched into Tolkien, CS. Lewis and other fantasy writers in the months before he completed a script. Some of the early scripts which can be found on some SW fansites even mention three rings of power and Luke and Obi-Wan were actually trying to retrieve these items of "jedi" power in a structure or whatever evolved into the death star. ROTK has the best chance ever as a "fantasy" movie of winning BP and truly deserves to as a well produced and directed film. BlueDemon, Palpatine=Sauron. Other Tolkien works go into detail in the 3000 years before his reemergence as an eye he schemed and sent his lieutenants(the ringwraiths) to wear down Gondor and succeed in toppling Arnor, the northern kingdom. That's why there are ruins in the lands around Hobbiton and Aragorn and his fellow rangers are all in "hiding". Sauron also hid in Dol goldor 60 years before LOTR before he was chased out by Gandalf and the White Council(around the time of the Hobbit). The Witch King was also originally a brother of a Numenorean king who joined Sauron because he wanted a rule of his own. So in this sense, wiKI ringwraith is an ancestor of Aragorn corrupted into shadow and blackness i.e. similar to the Vader as a fallen jedi, Dark Lord, etc.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Performing the Best Song Nominees

    by Lemur Master

    Can anyone imagine a live performance of "THE TRIPLETS OF BELLEVILLE?" I can't even imagine what that would look like. I'm planning on watching just for that. I'm happy to see that the academy didn't totally forget about City of God, and thank you for forgetting all about the relatively 'blah' Cold Mountain.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Thanks a fuckton XTheCrovvX

    by SuengMina

    I can now sleep soundly knowing that all of those hours spent doing work to the LOTR soundtracks were not lost in the shadow of overinflated egos and sore fucking losers ^_^

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Right now, the entire New Zealand film industry is bouncing with

    by Aston Lad

    ...Not only did the film with the most noms get made in their country, but the film with the second-most noms is a vehicle for one of their best-known stars. I gotta say, I'm happy for them. Interesting point: I don't think I know ANYONE who has actually seen Master and Commander, despite the hype. Perhaps thats cos I'm British - did it just completely bomb over here like The Patriot did in 2000? Plus I could have sworn that City of God (fabulous though it is) was a 2002 film. My memory must be going haywire...

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Random thoughts

    by dr. robert

    Does anyone else miss the Bill Murray of old? Hooking up with Wes Anderson and Sofia has turned that fella into a real pompous fuck. I guess this now means he won't be doing an audio commentary for the Quick Change Directors Cut DVD!_________Anyone remember Samantha Morton's nude scenes from Jesus' Son?_______Can you imagine the severity of Havery's temper tantrum this morning when he found out that shitty Seabiscuit flick took Cold Mountain's spot on the Best Picture list?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Uh, what the f- happened?

    by SethelFilms

    OK, first off congrats to Keisha. Whale Rider was a beautiful movie and I love this nomination. Same to Bill Murray, Sofia, Johnny Depp, etc. That being said, I was extremely surprised and dissapointed not to see the Matrix sequels (hell at least one of them) nominated in any technical categories, like, oh say, visual fucking effects! LOTR may win here and I wouldn't be upset with that but the fact that they didn't get nominated is absurd. How can Sacrlett not get a nom for 1 of her 2 great roles this year? And in the supporting category let's give it up to the academy for nominating the most melodrammatic, overacted, unbelievable role this year: congratulations Marcia Gay Harden...you were completely unbelievable and over the top but they like you! They really like you! The academy sucks, fuck 'em all. I hope Bill Murray doesn't even show up, let him accept his award from Italy in between takes.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Why isn't anyone talking about the complete waste of the Djimon

    by My Ass Smells

    Look, IN AMERICA is a really good movie. I'm kinda upset that it didn't get any freaking nominations it deserved. Yes, the performances were good and I love Samantha Morton. But, i sure as hell don't think either of them deserve noms. No fucking way. They were good, but not THAT good. btw, Samantha Morton is hot. I got a boner seeing her in those daisy dukes. To the poster who said that Return of the King had more original music that TTT.... are you a fucking idiot? Did you even listen to music while watching the movie? It has reused themes from the previous two films. The Ring theme, Sauron theme, Hobbit theme, Gondor theme, Lothlorien theme, Fellowship theme...etc etc. So, Return of the King getting a nom for its music is quite odd. It deserves it though.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:59 p.m. CST

    Puncutation

    by Psychonaut

    Y'know, looking through the list of nominations, it seemed to me that having a colon in the middle of the title seemed to be a real fator.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 2:59 p.m. CST

    OrionsAngel

    by Ribbons

    Ordinary People: "I'm afraid I don't know how to love you anymore." ******** A Beautiful Mind: "It's the only way I'll distinguish myself; it's the only way I'll ever really matter." ********* By the way, asshole, let's see how many people besides for people like you can recite dialogue from 'Return of the King' in another 20 years.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:01 p.m. CST

    i miss UMA

    by CuervoJones

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Although...

    by Ribbons

    That's not even really the point.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Orion's Angel and Ribbons

    by EntrailSoup

    My favorite line from A Beautiful Mind: "There's got to be a mathematical equation for how bad that tie is."

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:07 p.m. CST

    krylite

    by Ribbons

    Can you prove that every single shot and/or directorial decision in SW was outclassed by one in LotR?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Krylite...

    by REDD

    Krylite wrote: "SW should have won except Lucas' insipid directing ruined the BP Oscar earned by his collaborators Marcia Lucas, Kurtz, Kasdan and art designer McQuarrie. Brian Johnson who did SW efx design worked on 2001: A Space Odyssey. That's why the X-Wings and spaceship design wowed the world back in 1977." Lawrence Kasdan and Brian Johnson did not work on Star Wars (Ep. IV);Kasdan wrote the screenplays for Empire (with Leigh Brackett) and Jedi. Brian Johnson worked on Empires visual effects. No visual effects nomination for either Matrix film? What the?! Pirates Of The Caribbean for Makeup? Wasn't most of that done digitally? How about Final Destination 2 or LXG for Makeup. Oh well.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:09 p.m. CST

    LOTR

    by I Dunno

    LOTR...crying, walking, battle. Battle, walking, crying. Crying, walking, battle, gay subtext, battle, crying. Crappy CGI FX, battle, gay subtext, 30 minute goodbye sequence. Wash rinse, repeat for 12 hours, counting the Special Edition. And what the hell happened to Christopher Lee's character? You don't just casually mention the main (personified) villain just slinking off. A movie like that is only good as its villain and that giant glowing female sex organ didn't cut it. Then again, I didn't see the other nominated films and LOTR wasn't quite as pretentious as former Oscar winners so what the hell, I hope it wins. Or not, who cares.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Sorry JackBristow...your theory on ROTK is wrong...

    by Josef K

    If you would like, I can go through the history of the Oscars and name plenty of films that won Best Picture without an acting nomination. The fact ROTK has none does not speak volumes. The fact it is sweeping several guild and critic awards...that speaks huge volumes. Sorry...you tried to stir the pot, but it didn't work. Just in case you need one film that won without a acting nomination to tide you over...The Last Emperor, 9 wins no acting nominations.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Has anyone noticed...

    by Tal111

    that of the 5 nominees for best picture not one of them contains a moose? None dare call it conspiracy.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Tripplettes Sucked!

    by Nickdude77

    I don't see where Harry saw this movie but I bet there was funky smelling smoke in the room. I saw this movie and didn't have to read the subtitles cause I'm French Canadian. But come on, the movie, although very nicely animated had a VERY weak story. I've yet to see Finding Nemo, but I'm sure its better than tripplettes.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:25 p.m. CST

    O'Toole was robbed!

    by Josef K

    Such a tender, powerful performance. But John Lone was magnificent and deserved one as well.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Ancient Lights

    by Ribbons

    Orion's Angel is probably right in that 'Raging Bull' was the better movie, but that doesn't mean that you have to condmn 'Ordinary People.' I thought it was a great movie, too.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:32 p.m. CST

    IN AMERICA is the best movie I've seen in several years.

    by Mosquito March

    Shame it didn't get more nominations, especially for best song ("Time Enough To Heal"). Gavin Friday, Maurice Seezer, Bono and Andrea Corr got robbed.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Karakul...?

    by MrBadd

    In answer to your question: No, I have not seen TRIPLETS. In fact, neither has most of America, let alone heard of it. And SPIRITED AWAY? Sorry, but that was given a wide theatrical release by Disney, so your assertion nobody heard of it is bogus. As for FINDING NEMO, that was the best movie I saw last year. PERIOD. You got a problem with that? That's just exactly what it is.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Scarlett Johansson has officially been ROBBED!

    by Flexfill

    How could the Academy possibly overlook this performance. It is the freshest and most accomplished of any young actor this year. She held her own with a veteran genius, and that fucking speaks volumes. I'm livid.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:48 p.m. CST

    YOULOOSECRUISE

    by Trevor Goodchild

    Oscars are completely irrelevant to the relevant. Which makes it all the more pleasureable to see Crusie's bid for a best Actor/film ignored.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Tripletts Soundtrack

    by Nice Marmot

    For whoever was wondering where they could get it, it's available at Amazon.com.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:52 p.m. CST

    ATROCITY ALERT: No MONICA BELLUCCI nomination!

    by MyGlockYourMouth

    Now she won't come to the awards. We won't get to see the perfect ass. We won't get to see the perfect boobs. All because of some technicality regarding performance. In my dictionary, you look up the word "performance" you will see Monica Bellucci. Bottom line: I'm shocked and shagrinned, mortified and stupified...this omission is an outrage....it's salacious and outrageous. Bring on the boobs, bring on the butts, Monica's not there, because the Academy is nuts!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Predictions and thoughts on what looks to be a great Oscar night

    by axelfoley

    My take on the nominees. This looks like a good race guys. I mean there are a lot of first time nominees as well as some who have seen nods and victory before ie Kingley, Eastwood. Kudos for Robbins for finally getting an acting nod, his first since being recognized for his work in directing Dead Man Walking. Theron will hands down win Best Actress and this alone will open more doors for this beautiful woman. Im glad Johnny Depp got nominated, he carried that whole movie. Will he win? Not a chance in hell. The nomination itself is a victory for Depp and Im happy that Oscar is recognizing his talent. Peter Jackson will likely win. If not, I'm sure there will be a huge backlash by even the most minimal fervent fan of LOTR. Based on the public response Jackson clearly has outdone himself in the third installment. Best picture will go to Cold Mountain or Return of the King, not sure what direction the voters will lean towards, but 'Mountain' is said to be losing some of its merit because of it winning only 1 gg of the numerous noms it received. Supporting actor and actress are wide open. Not sure what to make of those. I like seeing some new faces in the mix, like Hounsou and Watts. Plus Bill Murray, let's not forget what a big deal this is. As a fan of his work, I'm very enthused that Murray is getting a nod and he will most likely win it but he's going against Sean Penn. BTW, Spider-Man 2 will kick major league designated professional arse. Thank you for your time.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Charlize Theron will win for MONSTER

    by JAGUART

    The Academy has always had a soft spot for actors/actresses that gain weight and disfigure themselves for freak roles. Except for Andy Serkis of course. Marlon Brando is exempt because he kinda grew that way naturally.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 4 p.m. CST

    Millennium Actress & the Triplets of Belleville

    by ChaseSequence

    While probably much much better than Brother Bear (hey, I'm not stupid enough to have thought even for a second that it would be worth $9 ... or even $4 for a rental), Millennium Actress was not a great movie. Nice animation ... beautiful art direction/design, but it had too heavy-handed a script and over-the-top voice acting (yes, the Japanese language version). Also, the Triplets of Belleville was a visual masterpiece but left alot to be desired story-wise. Finding Nemo deserves it, hands down.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Whoops, I forgot, Cold Mountain's not even nominated for Best Pi

    by axelfoley

    and here I was thinking the Academy are not random fucks.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 4:02 p.m. CST

    McKellen?

    by Trevor Goodchild

    Where he?

  • At least sound, sound editing, visual effects and possibly even the award for best original score (what has Howard Shore more than Don Davis?), should have gone as nomination for Matrix Revolutions. But of course they had to hate it, and it was not even concurring for the nomination... what had Hulk and X-2 more than Matrix REvolutions in terms of technical achievements, visual fx and spectacularity? I mean, really... And what about Kill Bill? What were they thinking? Anyway, I hope Lost In Translation, City Of God, Triplettes of Belleville and American Splendor win anything they can. At least.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Wasn't this the "Year of the Matrix"? What happened?

    by Renata

    Oh, that's right, the movies blew. Not even an fx nomination. What a pathetic comedown for that franchise.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Any more A.D.D. sufferers want to complain about boring films wh

    by Fatal Discharge

    I guess if Godzilla ran amuck in Tokyo during Lost In Translation or if there were a "Lethal Weapon"-type car chase where Sean Penn chases his daughter's killer in Mystic River then these movies wouldn't be considered boring by you Ridalin-needing lot. I think Scarlett Johansson's supposed snub was a result of her handlers submitting her for a supporting award for Lost In Translation instead of lead. It's been done in the past too where a lesser-known actress will try for a supporting nod in an obvious lead role because there's less competition. Keisha Castle-Hughes though ended up getting a lead actress nomination (the youngest ever actress to do so) maybe at the expense of Scarlett's if she had been submitted as lead. One glaring omission was no makeup nom for Monster in what was the most talked about transformation of an actor this past year. Although I'm glad it got deserved nominations, the whole City of God submission fiasco was infuriating. It got nominated last year for best foreign film (where it depends on a country submitting it in it's year of release in its homeland 2002) and Miramax, I believe, chose to hold it back for eligibility from further nominations until it was released this past year in the U.S. But that was so long ago (March) that people had long stopped talking about it when the nominating process began a few months ago. I guess it shows Miramax's power that it did get the nominations it did but I see it as a missed opportunity too for a Best Picture nomination.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Axelfoley=moron, Neocons=weiner lickers

    by ParrisSun

    Did you even bother reading the rest of the threads or even seeing who was nominated? How in hell is Cold Mountain going to win for Best Picture when it's not even nominated in that category?****Neocons: It's a shame that you maggots continue to use this site as a recruiting ground for your New W.A.S.P Order. But please, leave the Bushism and your O'Rielly play books at home. Quit whining about "Hollywood Liberals" when you really want to be like us anyway. This Jew is really sick of it. I know your mad about my granddad buying all the property around your house and putting up powerlines but don't blame it on Sophia and my best bud, Tim Robbins. BTW, we're having dinner at 8:00. Don't be mad because you live in a trailer park in Tyler Texas. Don't be mad because I'll be feeling on Sophia's boyishly fine body tonight. Be honest, that's why most of you really hate LiT. You hate what you can't get. Oh well. Rings rules all. Lucas is a has been who should slit his wrist already.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 5:05 p.m. CST

    I hope you're right

    by monorail77

    I'd love to see Peter Jackson finally get the best director award he so richly deserves. But don't count Clint out. He could steal it, because actors kiss his rectum in a similar, star struck way that they used to with Woody Allen, before the whole Soon-Yi thing. Same kind of argument for best picture. That blasted sea epic could steal Peter's precious statuette. Screw them, though, if they can't recognize a good thing when they see it. Just my $0.02

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 5:11 p.m. CST

    About the Big Fish nomination...

    by Durendal

    I found it interesting that the only nomination it got was for the music. Don't get me wrong, I liked the score, and Danny Elfman has done some EXCELLENT scores, but I didn't think the score for Big Fish was all THAT great. It didn't seem very Elfman-like, especially in a Burton movie. I still like the score for Edward Scissorhands better. Speaking of which, did Edward Scissorhands get any nominations at all? I'm pretty sure it didn't, but I just want to be sure.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 5:23 p.m. CST

    There's no acting in LOTR.

    by Lord_Soth

    For being a LOTR character all you have to do is to stand still and look at the hot-dog stand behind the camera. If you are talented, you can make tears, if not, that's not a problem, the fx guys willl fix it in post-production.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 5:24 p.m. CST

    ROTK - Best Picture?

    by tricej

    I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see ROTK taking best picture. The indicator is a lack of acting awards. Sean, Viggo, and Ian all turned in outstanding performances and at least deserve a nomination (or one between them - the Academy had done this before). Since the motion picture academy is made up of actors (mostly out of work), they tend to favor actors' movies. And since everyone votes on Best Picture, that award generally goes to actors' movies. That's why fantasy, sci-fi, and action movies seldom make Best Picture. Again - I hope I'm wrong.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 5:27 p.m. CST

    The evening will be considered a huge disappointment...

    by user id indeed!

    ...if Sofia Coppola doesn't wear a tight little gymnast outfit and carry a ribbon dancer. "Who is this doin' this type of alpha-beta psychedelic funkin'?!" everyone will ask. And I will answer, "Sofia Coppola, who I dare venture could outsex even Peter Jackson." Indeed! I'd wouldn't mind having a Swingin' Belleville Rendezvous with HER, I'll tell ya that much.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Seabiscuit is...

    by Halloween68

    the most overrated piece of shit to come out since A Beautiful Mind and Castaway... The film shouldn't be nominated for a damn thing except maybe cinematography. I almost choked on my own vomit when Macey was nominated for a Globe. (And I love Macey in everything else.) That said, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE that Sean Astin at least deserves a nomination for Samwise. His performance was much more stirring than any of the other nominations up there. I actually think he did a better job than Sir Ian as Gandalf the Grey... And he got a nomination when Fellowship came out.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Snub list: Matrix for FX, Hulk for editing and Kill Bill for cin

    by Tall_Boy

    course those are all hardcore geek flicks but I still think thier respective categories they were some of the best. I dunno why someone said the Hulk editing was goofy, I thought it was freakin cool. Frankly because I had never seen that before and if you're doing something NEW in film you should get a nom. As for Matrix some of the battle FX were kind of dogy, but I thought the cimatic Neo / Smith fight in REVOULTIONS was some of the damn best FX work of the year. And for Kill Bill cinematography: HOUSE OF THE BLUE LEAVES. That is all.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Thank you Scrip'teaser...

    by AnnoyYou

    ...for this observation: "Bill Murray, one of the few comic actors with impeccable timing and a strong understanding of irony and pathos." Up until this moment I'd been pulling for Depp or Penn (not for "Mystic River" but for his body of work -- I still think he should have won for "Dead Man Walking"), but you're absolutely right about Murray. I went into "Lost In Translation" prepared to hate it, but was totally won over by Murray's performance, which was deft, unsentimental, and oddly enough, deeply felt. His performance is the best out of all the nominations. And as much as I hate to say it (because I still haven't forgiven her for ruining "Godfather III), Coppola probably deserves the Best Original Screenplay Oscar.

  • LOTR...crying, walking, battle. Battle, walking, crying. Crying, walking, battle, gay subtext, battle, crying. Crappy CGI FX, battle, gay subtext, 30 minute goodbye sequence. Wash rinse, repeat for 12 hours, counting the Special Edition. And what the hell happened to Christopher Lee's character? You don't just casually mention the main (personified) villain just slinking off. A movie like that is only good as its villain and that giant glowing female sex organ didn't cut it. Then again, I didn't see the other nominated films and LOTR wasn't quite as pretentious as former Oscar winners so what the hell, I hope it wins. Or not, who cares.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Thoughts on Noms

    by ktownman

    First time in years ive seen almost everything before the nominations. Very Happy about City Of God getting the nods I would of be really happy if it got a Best Picture Nod but can understand it was a stacked year for quality flicks. Happy American Splendor got One Nod. Surprised By No Last Samurai in Best Picture. Animation its between Triplets and Nemo. Nemo will win but Triplets could be the dark horse and Brother BEar should just stay home that night. I saw Triplets a few days ago and was impressed the dog barking at the window each time a train went past then his subsquent dream some reason really made me laugh . 21 Grams awesome flick Del Tero You Da Manas well as Jeff Spocolli and Naomi boobies. Whale Rider got the nomination in the actress cagetory i thought that little girl should of had after seeing Whale Rider *America Get your kids to watch this film its a modern classic* Only Foreign Films I have seen is Barbarian Invasions and City Of God. Barbarian is a Atom Egoyan Film without the Atom but still a quality flick. Canada needs more film directors. City Of God will win and im glad it will. Awesome flick that truly made me forget I was watching a movie the characters so realistic the setting so real if I saw the actor that played Benny or Little Ze in an alley id run out. The actor that plays Rocket should get some hollywood work as well as Benny and Little Ze as well as the Children versions of the respective characters. See City Of God See City Of God and See City Of Mofo God. The Movie is gold classic now on the Top 20 of my all time favorite movies. I want ROTK to win but I beleve PJ was given his oscar last nite and it will likely go to Mystic River which didnt stand up for me on a 2nd viewing but that first viewing is a superb movie Jeff Spocolli losing his daughther and the mystery of her murder is one of the best movie questions of 2003. Ive went on long enough Parting Shot "Lost in Translation Sucks" Average movie at best,slow irriating and Scarlett is alot better in "Girl With the Pearl Earing" and just because a comedian does a drama we dont have to suck his dick and tell him how big it is because he did it.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 6:29 p.m. CST

    FX

    by Darth Melkor

    Yeah where the hell is the Matrix Reloaded in the FX category? The Oscars get this one wrong almost every year. ROTK will win making it the third year in a row they've awarded the same exact effects to the same exact series. As someone said, perhaps Matrix got snubbed because of its 1999 win. Beating TPM was an absolute travesty.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 6:30 p.m. CST

    IIac2

    by Blue_Demon

    Curses...I knew I should have added the last line to my post about Gandalf being Merlin and Luke being Arthur. Yes, you are correct, about the achetypes. No argument there. But if I am not mistaken, you said you could not see LOTR's influences on Star Wars. They're there. And easier to see than the older archetypes. :)

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 6:40 p.m. CST

    You whiners are still pissing your pants about TPM not getting o

    by minderbinder

    Come on, it didn't deserve it, not by a long shot. And clones (which had slightly better FX) didn't even get nominated. it wasn't even considered for a nomination. So what movie will EP3 lose to for FX and the two sound categories?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Krylite and IIac2

    by Blue_Demon

    Krylite, great post. But um...I was being sarcastic about not being able to find a Palpatine equivalent in LOTR. Heh. Oh and IIac2, lest you think I hate Star Wars, I don't. I love it. And I love LOTR. Room for both in my book. Peace.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Not one nom for kill bill?

    by Jon E Cin

    Best movie of the year for sure! Well for geeks like me.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Now that I think about it, King Kong is supposed to come out chr

    by minderbinder

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:01 p.m. CST

    THEY SHOULD DUMP MASTER AND COMMANDER FOR BEST MOVIE AND NOMINAT

    by tequilaworm

    21 Grams RULES! Master and Commander was good but a bit over rated. I also agree that Sean Astin should have been nominated. Bill Murray WILL WIN and Benicio Del Toro will get his second Oscar. CGI Hulk and CGI Gollum had more soul than Keanu. They should have been given a nod just for that alone...CHEERS Amigos!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:02 p.m. CST

    To Ribbons

    by monorail77

    Sure, you can quote one line from Ordinary People. But any film fan worth his salt can quote dozens of lines from Raging Bull - the film that everyone agrees should have won best picture in 1980.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:02 p.m. CST

    What a great talkback

    by Moonwatcher

    Nothing like a fresh batch of nominations to stir up the blood. I wonder what this would have looked like if we had the Net back in 1965 when Sound of Music led the way? That would have rocked. What do you say, Harry? How about a trip down memory lane, and give us a chance to once in a while sound off on previous years? 1977, 1963(!), '62, '39, '33?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:12 p.m. CST

    krylite...

    by MisterGrimloch

    i have my face on? ??? uh, yeah, whatever. oh, and "professional film drama" was part of which LOTR film?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Yup. That's it

    by Ribbons

    I looked 'em up on IMDb, 'cause I have nothing better to do than tell you you're wrong. You wanna know what's up my asscrack? Just check out all that bullshit rhetoric you used in your last post. Frankly, I don't care if you don't like me; if having a sense of humor towards imperious fucks like you is required in order for you to like me, then it's not worth it. The thing that pisses me off about you is that you're so wrong and you know it, but you don't care because you know you don't have to. Enough people will share something close enough to your opinion for whoever disagrees with you to sound like a radical. Whatever. Keep writing more posts about how I'm a turd that you'd flush down the toilet. I'm sure the kids that just got home from school will love that one.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:15 p.m. CST

    As much as Johnny Depp looked like he'd pass out during PotC (Wh

    by Archduke_Chocula

    AND NO NOMINATIONS FOR KILL BILL VOL. 1? What in the hell.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Master & Commander!!!

    by Boris Grushenko

    Yes! I see I'm not the only one who saw the merits of this wonderful movie. Hopefully this will rejuvenate its box office. M&C, Mystic River, and Lost in Translation all made my personal Top Five. Seabiscuit was #25 on my list, and LOTR was #60 (out of 65 movies).

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:29 p.m. CST

    monorail77

    by Ribbons

    I said 'Raging Bull' was the better movie, I'm just saying that both films can be highly-regarded. Maybe 'Ordinary People' wouldn't be found if it didn't win the Awards it did, but 'Blade 2' will probably be in more people's collections (or equally, whatever) than 'Gosford Park,' so that's no indicator.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:35 p.m. CST

    I Dunno

    by Ribbons

    Gay subtext? You sure about that? And a movie's only as good as its villain? Well, in that case, I guess 'Titanic' sucked. You could look at the word "villain" in a lot of ways, starting with Gollum, who I'd say is a great "villain."

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:42 p.m. CST

    I think it will be funnier next year

    by MaulRat

    To listen to everyone talk about the Oscars, because this year there IS a clear winner, like it or not. (Personally I like it).. I just hope that next year, TROY gets totally overlooked (I'm sorry but the teaser trailer looks like turd... 1,200,000,000 fucking ships on the water my ass... I hope SHREK 2 1/2 gets totally snubbed for best Animated and bombs at the BO so we can be rid of Mike Myers and his 3 gag comic life, The COHENS will again be snubbed for The Ladykillers, But there will ALWAYS be the usual Spielberg, Scorsese (who's last win should have been for Kundun), maybe even a Johnathan Demme, Maybe a Michael Mann and *sigh* a Wolfgang Peterson... at least it will be entertaining to read.. This Year - I love Finding Nemo, and I think its popularity alone will clinch over the lesser known Trilets, I think Depp did a wonderful piss-take on Geoffrey Rush's character in Shakespeare in Love (which aside from the good writing was forgettable and didn't deserve best pic).. Sean Astin was (sorry to say) never going to get a nom, he was good though.. Does anyone else think that if they were going to nom Depp in a pirate movie that they should have nominated Jason Issacs in a supporting role for Peter Pan? maybe they could take Tim Robbins' nom off him simply for being too young for Susan Sarandon... GO BILL MURRAY.. Here's what my money is on... ACTOR - Bill Murray (although my head is saying Sean Penn) SUPP ACTOR - Tim Robbins (although Benicio SHOULD win.. simply because he's the bomb) ACTRESS - Charlsleeze Hornbag (because she's a spunk.. but I'd like to see Keisha Castle-Hughes win for Whale Rider.. great performance)... SUPP ACTRESS - *sigh* Renee Schwartzawegger (because lets face it.. cold mountin isn't getting anything ELSE!! HA!)... ANIMATED - Nemo (based purely on the fact that it was more popular that Triplets and is better than Brother Turd).. CINEMATOGRAPHY - LOTR... oh wait its not there..... better go with Master and the Commander.. DOCUMENTARY - FOG of WAR... SHORT DOC - ASYLUM..... FOREIGN LANG - THE twilight Samurai (because they don't like giving awards to Evil.. Quentin Tarantino and The Exorcist proved that).. SONG - A Kiss at the End of the Rainbow (because I love that quirky mighty Wind gang).. SHORT ANIMATED - Boundin' (Because I have a hard on for Pixar).. SHORT LIVE - MOST (the Bridge).. again because the Acadeny doesn't want to give the award to evil (ie Die ROTE Jacke.. those Germans.. of course they're evil.. haven't you seen Any american WW2 movie?).... WRITING (ADAPTED) - American Splendor (magic.. just... just magic)... WRITING (ORIGINAL) - Lost in Translation (yeah I admit it... it was pretty good.... Now...... ART DIRECTION, COSTUME DESIGN, SOUND, EDITING, MAKEUP, SCORE, VFX and PICTURE.. I don't even have to say it... I have picked 13 out of the last 15 best Pictures.. I missed in 98 with Shakespeare in Love, I thought Private Ryan was better.. but there again... I am an all meat eating hetero-man... and I missed in 88 with Rain Man oddly enough... but I was never as sure as I am this Year that the Best Picture of the year is.................................................... (hehehe I was gonna leave it as a Rules of Attraction type end.. but you all know anyway) *BAMF*

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Yeah, you're probably right

    by Ribbons

    Okay, while the characters were well-drawn, 'Adaptation.' essentially had no antagonists save for 5 minutes of the movie and that was a perfectly good flick. I don't know, I'm stretching. Maybe this dude's right. But Gollum and Crazy Denethor make for great villains.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Dear Stella Stevens and other old relics...

    by Vieri

    ... if you don't mark Bill Murray for best actor I'm going to get very angry and stop working. Regards, Metamucil Note: Scarlett Johansson f'n hotter than a Sunday afternoon in the kitchen of Taco Bell in Houston in July.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:01 p.m. CST

    A serious Question for all the TBers

    by ChickenGeorgeVII

    When Adrian Brody presents the best actress oscar, I would not be surprised if he slipped the tounge to Charlize, Naomi, or even Samantha Morton....but what if Diane Keaton wins? She is pretty hot for her age....and most importantly, what if Keisha Castle Hughes wins? Will Adrian slip her the tounge? I really need an answer to this, because I am losing sleep over it....And thus, I have asked! - - - George, The 7th Chicken!!!!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:02 p.m. CST

    1980

    by williammunny

    Quite a few people have brought up the Oscars for 1980. For me that is the last year they mattered. Sure they made mistakes before- snubbing Hitchcock and O'Toole and the fact that Alec Guiness did not win for every movie he made- but they had some integrity. Then Ordinary People won the Best Picture Oscar and they gave Redford the Oscar for best director. Now, I'm not saying it wasn't a good movie, but it beat out BOTH Raging Bull and The Elephant Man. Redford beatout Lynch and it just became clear that the Academy rewards its own, and people who buck the system get screwed. As Mel Brooks, the producer of The Elephant Man, said "Nobody will remember Ordinary People in 10 years." Compared to the impact made on cinema by THe Elephant Man and Raging Bull he was right. Other prime examples are Titanic, which was an ok movie that made way too much money to be ignored, and the got way too many noms, and won best picture and Shakespeare in Love, which, admittedly, had a dazzlingly briliiant script (by Tom Stoppard), but was basically just an OK movie. It beat out Saving Private Ryan, which, while flawed, was a much better overall movie. And we all know that the only reason SIL won that year was because of Harvey Weinstein's juggernaut of a campaign machine. The awards are a big circle jerk, hollywood takes care of its own. Don't waste any more time on it.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:13 p.m. CST

    1990

    by williammunny

    Just as an addendum to my last post, I will point out that in 1990 Dances with Wolves won the Oscar, beating out Goodfellas. I don't think that this is all that bad, though I personally prefer Goodfellas, but, does anyone remember the other nominees? Awakenings, GHOST and GODFATHER III! Not only does a throwaway movie like Ghost get nominated, but one of the worst movies of all time does too. Left off that year: MILLERS CROSSING. Not even nominated. One of the most perfectly crafted movies ever. The movie that has one of the best scenes in film history (The Danny Boy scene, but if I have to tell you that you won't agree with me). Not even nominated, so they could make room for Hollywood insider Coppola's crapfest. Most of the civilized world has agreed to pretend that Godfather III was never made, but they nominated it.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:19 p.m. CST

    People who say the relationship between Sam and Frodo is Gay..

    by MaulRat

    Never had a friend they'd die for... I have 3.. I had 4.. but one died last year.. and don't tell me I'm gay just because I loved him, or because I'm not too proud or scared to say it... You people wouldn't know what having a real friend is like.. nor would you know what its like to not be able to do anything about losing one, and what a terrible feeling that is..... Fuck you all

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:25 p.m. CST

    The best movie from 1980 was The Empire Strikes Back and it wasn

    by Bill Maher

    Between that, and Raiders of the Lost Ark losing to some tedious film about Olympic runners, I have come to the conclusion that the Oscars are bullshit. They are a bitchy popularity contest that makes Heathers look like a convent. Shakespeare In Love winning was another atrocity. But I'll be watching. Why? As long as there are starlets who spend thousands of dollars on dresses but not a penny on underwear, we will get Jennifer Lopez's erect nipples and Ashley Judd's beaver on network TV. There's also a high probability of stars making complete fools of themselves. I can't remember any of the movies from 1994, but I'll never forget Richard Gere trying to do a Vulcan Mind Meld on the Chinese leader over Tibet.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:29 p.m. CST

    ...

    by Johnny Smith

    ...what the fuck? Sorry, it's taken me all day to recover from this.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:32 p.m. CST

    nobody, your last post made me laugh out loud.

    by minderbinder

    Let's check the numbers once again. According to YOU, a third of reviewers gave Samurai a thumbs down. And a quarter gave Cold Mountain one. Certainly not terrible, but if you consider 34% pissing on a movie "great" you certainly have low standards. So it got better reviews than How To Deal, you think that's deserving of an oscar? Let's check some more numbers - on RT, Nemo, RotK, Lost in Translation, School of Rock, Freaky Friday, Whale Rider, 28 Days Later, Mighty Wind, X2, Mystic River, Beckham, Master and Commander, Elf, Matchstick Men, Monster, Seabiscuit all got better reviews than Cold Mountain. I'm sure there are too many to list that did better than Samurai. If those two got "great" reviews then critics must have shit their pants when they watched Freaky Friday. Tell me, how the fuck do you use a 66% rating to argue that a movie deserved a best picture rating? (here's some advice, your posts will make more sense if you spend more time using your brain thinking about what you're trying to say instead of thinking of lame "shit coming out of your ears" attempts at insults)

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:36 p.m. CST

    MaulRat, you're not the only person here who has lost a close fr

    by Bill Maher

    Two years ago, a friend of mine for twenty years died. He was like a brother to the point that he called my mother "Mom" (I addressed his mother the same way.). When girls I dated wanted to know something about me, they asked him. He knew more about me than anyone living or dead. HOWEVER... If I had EVER sighed and made queerbait goo-goo eyes at him like Frodo and Sam, he would have kicked the living shit out of me -not for being gay, but for being so goddamned annoying. Homoerotic tension between heroes has been around since Gilgamesh and Enkidu, just not as laughable as Sam & Frodo, who are in Batman & Robin territory.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:37 p.m. CST

    What the fuck is up w/ ppl hating Cruise

    by CaptainBlackbeer

    Why is it the cool thing among nerds to dislike Tom Cruise? Because he's a successful movie star, and you're all stuck with 9-5 shitty jobs? And don't say he can't act, that's bullshit. You people say things like "Tom Cruise shits on a whole culture" ... where the fuck are you getting that from? What the hell would you have him do, stand in the background and not say a damn word the whole movie? Jealous fucks. So sorry that at the end of the day, 10 times more people will remember and enjoy Top Gun (can't think of one normal moviegoer who doesn't love that movie) than Lord of the Rings. And more people are going to hold Maverick as their favorite movie character than whiny, preachy Sam in Lord of the Rings. So sit there and diss him all you want, but you only make yourselves look like idiots.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Voice of Reason

    by Halloween68

    Seabiscuit is overrated. *** I've seen Finding Nemo and The Trippletts of Belleville. The ToB, as an overall film, is about 200 times better. It's more original, has a better script, better plot, better character development, better music, better payoff in the end...pretty much better everything. Except...Nemo has better animation. Unfortunately, for all the Nemo fans out there, animation alone doesn't get quality of film. Trippletts is a better film, hands down. However, (again, to the Nemo fans) don't despair. Finding Nemo is still the more popular choice. FN will win the Oscar. *** Kill should have gotten a Best Cinematography nod and a Best Sound Editing nod. Nothing more. Let's see the payoff. Maybe Kill Bill Vol. 2 will clean up next year. *** Return of the King deserves everything it gets. It's long overdue. And this is not just for the complete Lord of the Rings filmology, but this is for all the quality genre films that have been overlooked through the years. Let's hope this is the start of acklowledgement across the board, no matter what type a film a writer/director/producer chooses to do.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Go Depp!

    by Harmonica Man

    As much as I liked him in Pirates of the C., I thought he was just as good in "Once Upon a Time in Mexico". Nothing against Robert Rodriquez, but Depp saved that film. On a different note, one thing you have to consider about Hollywood is that they go out of their way to greenlight the most low-brow, insipid crud, but at Oscar time they show how hyprocritical they are by giving awards to gloomy high-brow downers. My favorite film of the year was Kill Bill because it was simply the most fun, but I would agree that perhaps it wasn't Best Picture material (maybe if they didn't cut the fucker in two... I still hate that decision... it may have been). However, Master and Commander was my second favorite. Russell Crowe and Depp are the two greatest actors in this era. Return of the King... nice to look at, too much blubbering by Samwise, and too long by at least half an hour (my wife and I both almost wet our pants waiting for the damn credits to start rolling... and I can usually "hold it" for quite some time). Still, it will win and I say good for Peter Jackson. It's not the easiest story to tell.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9 p.m. CST

    SEAN ASTIN

    by aelfgifu

    Sean astin was absolutely robbed. I cannot beleive he did not even get a nom. Anyone want to bat around some theories on why he was not?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:01 p.m. CST

    FUCK OSCAR -- AND NAOMI WATTS

    by TomVee

    "What about Longest Erect Nipples by an Actress? Comment: Naomi Watts would win that hands down. Not that it would be a bad thing, her perky plus nipples are sexy." Did you know the very sexy Ms Watts is 35 fucking years old? Also, heard her interviewed on TV today. First time I've heard her talk in her normal voice. She kept interrupting the interview to yell,"Oy, throw another shrimp on the barbie" or something like that.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Um, because he's a sobbing tubby bitch, perhaps?

    by Bill Maher

    Jake Lloyd had a better performance than Rudy. Get over it, and you might get promoted to dungeonmaster.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:09 p.m. CST

    I know Charlize Theron will win (deserved) but...

    by morGoth

    ...I wish Keisha Castle-Hughes would win. Wonderful movie (Whale Rider)and what a great performance from one so young! Of course, I want RoTK to clean up but I

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:09 p.m. CST

    I really tire of bandwaggoners bagging an earnest effort like Co

    by The Mothman

    Most of the friends I saw ROTK with said afterward that they'd liked it, but when pressed, they couldn't explain why. Acting? Not really. Story? Strangely Point A to Point B stuff. Effects? Good, but is that reason to rank it up there with the greatest movies of all time? I don't know, maybe this age of early reviews, downloadable trailers and freely available spoilers has dulled my mind's ability to discern between good and bad, but I simply wasn't blown away by this trilogy. Cold Mountain was a solid adaptation that is being trashed because of the involvement of this fellow Weinstein. Is the guy really so deplorable that any project he's involved in deserves bagging? CM's snubbing and Mystic River's inclusion confuse me, but what the hell, they're only movies right? Life goes on.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Then why all the potshots?

    by Ribbons

    And don't worry, I never expected you to prove yourself likeable. You're the one who seems to think you have that authority, and you have your love of something powerful to fall back on, anyway.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:26 p.m. CST

    aelfgifu and morGoth

    by Ribbons

    First of all, there was a lot of stiff competition in the supporting actor category this year, but I think that he could have arguably gone in over most of the other candidates and didn't because, well, like I said, Hollywood likes diplomacy, plus Hinsou (sp?) has paid his dues, and Hollywood also likes giving make-up calls. Listen to Harry, though. It doesn't make his performance any less important. And can I just say one more time how fucking awesome it is that Keisha Castle-Hughes was being (unfairly) pushed as a supporting actress and she got the lead actress nom anyways?

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Hounsou

    by Ribbons

    Djimon Hounsou. Sorry.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:28 p.m. CST

    scarlett's ass

    by themaestro

    Lost in translation should win best costume and best director for the shot of scarlett's ass.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Of course Return of the King is nominated for Best Picture!

    by Tinfang

    It only makes the mostly of senses since the Best would be nominated as the Best and the Best shall win! Best, Best, Best and uh-one and uh-two, yes, yes and YeS! Why, I

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Tom Cruise: Bland American Actor

    by Electric_Monk

    My opinion on Tom Cruise is this: Like Seabiscut, he's overrated. He is not a good actor and he's essentially played the same character since Risky Business -the white bread, rich kid who gets everything he wants because Mom and Dad paid for everything. He really has no range and his supposed brilliant performance in Magnolia was further proof that he's shamming the people of the world. Now, maybe I'm bitter, maybe I am a fanboy, but I seen better performances. I'm proud to say I've never seen Top Gun from start to finish only bits and pieces. I have issues with these type of jingoistic films. And I have issues with these type of American films that -if made in, say Iraq or another country that America is at war with -would considered propaganda films (such as that lovely piece of crap called Red Dawn). Now, I'm sure I'll be flamed by all you Toby Keith loving people, be called un-American, but Tom Cruise is not the greatest American actor and the Academy looked at The Last Samurai and said (as I did), hmm, wasn't this called Dancing with Wolves? Cruise's talents lie in his ability to manipulate people into liking his films, despite the emptiness of most of them. Minority Report started great, even for Tom Cruise and then became Murder She, Wrote. I never believed for one second he wasn't going to get his way. Flash the new smile, go on Oprah and claim how much a humanitarian he is. Blah, blah, blah. He does not fool me. So, in the end, the reason he was overlooked was because his performance was as marginal as the rest of his roles.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Amazing.... ROTK gets 11 noms and you nerds STILL have something

    by ChaopolisEnt

    After you Tolkein grave worshipers are all pissed off that Two Towers got "robbed", King grabs 11 well-deserved nominations. But... no... that's not good enough. WHAAAAAH!! Kill Bill didn't get nominated!!!! Sweet Jeebus, does nothing please you people? And before someone says "Lord of the Rings did it too", the Academy might not be giving this due notice because it REALLY WAS a film split in two. Rings was made as three seperate films. Tarantino went out to make one film, and it was split in two. Therefore, AMPAS' belief is "we've only seem half of the movie. For all we know, the rest could suck." So, PLEASE, be HAPPY that ROTK got some decent nods. AND STOP BITCHING ABOUT EVERYTHING!!!! Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Andy Serkis should

    by morGoth

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I know

    by Ribbons

    And I shouldn't have done that. I have to try harder at not getting involved in other people's conversations. So yeah, I guess I'd be pissed if I were in your shoes, but still, a lot of stuff you said was not only unnecessary but untrue, and that's why I kept posting. Look, let's just let bygones be bygones; regardless of what you may think, I don't want to fucking argue anymore. I don't think you have to disrespect other movies when you're talking about Lord of the Rings, but I've said that and if you don't agree then whatever, your prerogative.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:52 p.m. CST

    As for my personality

    by Ribbons

    Only slightly bitter, only slightly.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:58 p.m. CST

    MASTER AND COMMANDER for VISUAL EFFECTS...

    by HungryJoe

    ...because seeing that particular nomination made me think, "Hmmm...what visual effects????"

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Mystic River

    by PlasmaSMP

    I going with the man with no name for best picture. As much as I am a LOTR fan, ROTK was cut terribly. Going to the climax of a situation, doesn't make a scene powerful, it's the buildup to the climax (which must still be on the cutting room floor) that makes a scene powerful. Something that Clint knows all too well. Mystic River is a very powerful film, and very reminicent of Unforgiven. No, it may not be technically perfect, like strange cuts over the 180, but it stays with you for days after you've left the theater. With three acting category nominations, I say Mystic river wins best picture. LOTR should have won when felloship came out. Now how did rotk get nominated for best editing? Who knows, maybe I'm just full of hot air.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:04 p.m. CST

    "10 times more people will remember and enjoy Top Gun"

    by FluffyUnbound

    Whoa. Earth to Judd Nelson: Top Gun, while entertaining the day that I saw it, is now a dark, horrible adolescent memory, like the fact that I owned a Phil Collins album on cassette. The 80's are over, sir. Try to accept it. EVERYTHING about Top Gun is now outrageously dated crap fit only to be lampooned on an SNL episode. "That's right - I'm dangerous." Val Kilmer gaying out all over the place and essentially CREATING the aesthetic style that will one day dominate the cover of Men's Health magazine. MEG RYAN. A soundtrack featuring KENNY FUCKING LOGGINS and A BALLAD BY BERLIN. There are things about the 80's that deserve to live - Red Dawn comes to mind - but Top Gun is essentially the Gallagher of 80's movies. It's fit only to be studied by anthropologists at this point.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Parissun=dickhead who obviously ignored my followup post where I

    by axelfoley

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Nice list...

    by royalpain

    Nice list, as far as the tech categories...I'm in full agreement about the omission of Kill Bill. But, the most startling one is Lance Acord's beautiful cinematography in 'Lost In Translation'

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:11 p.m. CST

    It will be sooo nice to laugh in your face come Feb. 29 Mr. Dick

    by Tinuviel70

    All of the Return wins will make you see just what a pathetic loser you and your other stupid posting handles, like Pud! and Pewbomb Yurk, really are. It is only natural you would speak of acting since you cannot seem to settle on own personality and only do mediocre job of acting like real human being. You were not nominated in that category either but Academy should give you Best Natural Idiot Award since nothing you ever say makes any sense; except to yourself. I must only speculate there but I think, as Americans say, "It goes without saying." That is mostly all right as it is sometimes fun to laugh at people who pretend to have mental handicaps even though we know you are acting. At least we think is case. There is one sure thing, you will never get a nomination for Most Creativity since your shtick has run out of ideas for long time now. This is all for you now. But for me, I hope too that Mr. Bill Murray will win as he has always cracked this lady up in a bigtime way. Scarlett shoud have gotten nod for Earring movie but other lady has always put in very solid performances. Very interesting year for movies and I hope Oscar award show will be as much fun as Golden Globes. Tra la la, I must go and sing now.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:14 p.m. CST

    You'll never see...

    by Zone Zero

    An Anime movie in the "Best Animated" category EVER AGAIN. Why? Because they will never admit that nothing is better than Di$ney. That, and RotK has no chance in hell for Best Picture because of the fact that the Oscar voting community doesn't give a rat's ass about fantasy. Millenium Actress was screwed today, and RotK will be screwed by Seabiscuit at the Oscars. The MPAA can suck all of this Minneapolis dick. TRY AND CATCH ME, BIIAATCH! http://maynexus.conforums.com/

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Accentuate the positive...

    by Lizzybeth

    Johnny Depp, Keisha Castle-Hughes, Djimon Hounsou, Holly Hunter, and the Triplets of Belleville - all lovely surprises. Bill Murray will probably win based on the Accumulated Guilt Factor left over from Rushmore, and good for him. Good for Sophia Coppola, good for Tim Robbins, good for Samantha Morton, good for Peter Jackson. Very nice to see all of those nominations. Destino is a fine little piece of animation and should win easily. I would have loved to see a best picture nomination for In America and at least one nomination for Scarlett Johansson, but this is a pretty decent set of nominations as is.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:52 p.m. CST

    Miramax

    by zigmondsrh

    Finally, Harvey gets what he deserves. He spent millions on "for your consideration" adds in the trades for Cold Mountain and now look. Not even a picture or director nod. Fucking great! About 5 years ago Hollyweird was all about Miramax and Harvey and now he has pissed off all the wrong people in Hollywood. So when its time to put up for Project Greenlight 3 and he is bitching about the film being 300,000 over budget, the winner should ask how much money he pissed away in trade adds for Cold Mountain. He he I love it!

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:53 p.m. CST

    by Tinfang

    Ancient Lights, could you please point out some of those fan boy-types on this TB? I don

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 10:54 p.m. CST

    I lost my faith in the oscars when Chicago won best Picture

    by Harrierthanthee

    But I am still very disappointed that the pompus academy did not even recognize Matrix Revolutions or Kill Bill. The Two Towers deserved best picture last year dammit! That's right; I cussed on the World Wide Web! and i'm not taking it back

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:12 p.m. CST

    lack of kill bill is indeed dissappointing

    by darth jobu

    Where's Uma? My god man, I've never seen a finer portrayal of a comatose rape-and-gun-shot-to-the-head victim on a rampage. I have to say I loved Peter Jackson's nod to Harvey "Thanks for your help in the beginning" Weinstein. Harvey looked pleased. Not.

  • Jan. 27, 2004, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Tinuvial, you dumbass! I just said I only watch the Oscars to se

    by Bill Maher

    Lord of the Pasty English Fags could win 11 out of 11 Oscars and I wouldn't give a shit. Return of the King was crap. Fellowship was crap, too. The Two Towers was good, but not great. If you want to see a truly GREAT movie about heroes trying to keep a magical artifact out of the hands of evil, try Raiders of the Lost Ark. In one hour and 45 minutes, Spielberg and Lucas have more action, adventure and awe than all 27 hours of Bored of the Rings. If you want swords & sorcery, Conan the Barbarian is WAY better. So is The 13th Warrior, in spite of the movie's flaws. If a bunch of fogeys in Hollywood (who vote for movies they don't even waych) want to give some Oscars to Peter Jackson & Co., fine.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 12:58 a.m. CST

    NAOMI!!!

    by Danger Mouse

    NAOMI IS IN KONG!!!!!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:02 a.m. CST

    Top Gun

    by SLEAZY DINOSAUR

    Ok, I admit it, calling Top Gun the Gallagher of 80s movies was a pretty hysterical line, but come on, it was great. My neighbor at the time was a wannabe fighter pilot, and he dragged me out to that movie almost every weekend that summer. Maybe if it weren't for nostalgia, I wouldn't still like it, but it's one of those movies that I have to stop and watch anytime I catch it while channel flipping.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:56 a.m. CST

    The Best Academy Award Show Moments...

    by ExcaliburFfolkes

    Does anyone else here think the best parts of the Academy Awards shows aren't the star gazing or who wins the trophies, but all of the unexpected and unusal and very often hilarious things that happen during it? Like for instance, when Anna Paquin won the Best Supporting Actress oscar a decade ago for The Piano and she was so surprised she got up there and hyperventilated throughout her entire acceptance speech. Or like last year, when we all just knew there would be lots of anti-war, anti-Bush barbs thrown during the acceptance speeches, and it just kept building little by little, speech by speech, until Michael Moore got up there and let loose the acid. Remember when Elia Kazan was awarded a lifetime achievement oscar a few years back, and half the audience stood and cheered, while the other half sat in a angry silence and glared? Yeah, those are the moments I watch to see. I can't wait to find out what happens this year, though it's going to take a lot to top last years best moment when Roman Polanski unexpectedly won for best director. Remember? The audience fell dead silent with shock and confusion, and Harrison Ford (the presenter) was up on stage stammering not quite sure what to do before quickly mumbling, "uh-um the Academy accepts this award on behalf of Mr. Polanski who couldn't be here tonight - thank you". Priceless!

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:01 a.m. CST

    I CANNOT PHUCKING BELEIVE IT.....

    by Kieran

    How dare the Academy NOT nominate ALL of the people that AICN talkbackers would have preffered?!? Those damn Academy sellouts.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 3:33 a.m. CST

    Finding Nemo should win every single nomination it recieved. The

    by TheGinger Twit

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 5:19 a.m. CST

    You guys can have your LOTR homo erotic subtext... or even your

    by TheGinger Twit

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 5:47 a.m. CST

    CITY OF GOD - BEST MOVIE OF THE YEAR

    by 81666

    seriously, hands down.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Was Millenium Actress even released? I don't think I saw any re

    by minderbinder

    How can a movie get nominated if nobody has seen it? If they really wanted a nomination they should have tried to get it into a few more theatres (assuming it WAS relased). Not everyone buys the bootleg region-free DVD's...

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 8:41 a.m. CST

    "The academy seem to think that big budget action pieces are som

    by minderbinder

    Sure, they are biased against scifi, (I'd agree that Matrix should have had more nominations but that's a dumb reason to argue against some other movie winning). But they're also just as biased against fantasy films. No fantasy film has EVER won best picture, just as no scifi film has.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Ayup, CaptainBlackbeer, that's what we're saying...

    by Skyway Moaters

    ... Last Samurai would have been better if they had left Cruise out of it altogether and focused on the real Samurai, their culture, and the fall of feudalism in Japan instead...

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 10:04 a.m. CST

    WHY JOHNNY DEPP SHOULD WIN BEST ACTOR

    by PacinoHatersGoHo

    Judging by the the trend here, Bill Murray is the fave for winning by far, though most people are afraid Sean Penn will take it away. My least favorite part of Mystic River was Sean Penn's performance. Jude Law, Cold Mountain, yeah right, no chance. Ben Kingsley just got nominated to give respect. So we're down to Johnny Depp and Bill Murray. The main reason I think Bill Murray shouldn't win it this year is because I foresee that they should give it to him NEXT year, for his performance in The Life Aquatic, a Wes Anderson film! Then, and only then, will justice be served for Murray's being snubbed for Rushmore. And looking at ol' Johnny boy, his next few roles consist of either sequels, bit parts or Tim Burton films... in short, not a chance of a nomination anytime soon. If it wasn't for Johnny, Pirates would have ended up being a subpar summer blockbuster. Johnny elevated that movie to a higher level of entertainment, and once again demonstrated his versatility in yet another quirky role.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Now there's an interesting stat

    by Trav McGee

    For the first time since the 60s, the majority (3) of the Best Pic noms have ZERO acting noms. And the other 2 pics have zero tech noms. ...On a side note, I can't help but think it'd be unfair for Miramax to advertise Cold Mountain as having 7 nominations, seeing as how two (2) (dos) (II) are in the Best Song category. I mean, c'mon now. ...I remember when I saw Master & Commander I thought, "As long as ROTK earns Best Pic and Director, I wouldn't begrudge this great effin film anything else it wins. So, go 8 for 10, M&C, and I'll be happy for you. Likewise, City of God I hereby permit to sneak away with anything ('cept Best Director...) it can grab. Then give me Keisha Castle-Hughes accept her trophy, and all karma will be restored to the Oscars. (HA)

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:01 p.m. CST

    I still don't get it....

    by SandyNYC

    How could the best picture not have the best of everything...like "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest". That being said I'm glad "City of God" got recognized even though it's a year late. And I agree..."Lost in Translation" was just ok. If it wasn't for Bill Murray it wouldn't have even been noticed. Or maybe it got noticed because it was directed by the moogly Sofia Cappola who I guess is "Hollywood Royalty".

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Maybe the matrix would have won best picture...

    by Dragonfire

    If Kevin Spacey had been cast as Neo instead of Keeuna Reeves. And to the guy who said The matrix storyline was more original than LOTR: Not really. It may seem that way because you probably haven't seen anything that's had that kind of story before, but I've spoken to many people who've read lots of comics who say they've seen similar virtual/dream world ideas to The matrix way back, and the humans vs machines concept can hardly be called original. The fact is: there's nothing wrong with that. The Wachouski bros drew their inspiration from comics just like Tolkien was influenced by Norse mythology and old folklore. They mix stuff together and form something new from it. The only stuff that can probably be called truly original would be the old mythologies like Greek mythology, Norse etc. Humans have been telling the same stories over and over in different forms because stories are based on emotions and emotions don't change. And as for the people saying the oscars mean jackshit: When did you figure that out? We know the oscars mean jackshit. The fact that The empire strikes back wasn't even nominated for best picture when it should have won is enough to show that. We just want ROTK to win to see PJ and his cast and crew, and New cinema, acknowledged for their boldness, vision and hard work. I want to see some scruffy haired bloke from New Zealand win the fabled prize of Hollywood.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 1:53 p.m. CST

    The need for an Ensemble Cast award

    by tucson

    Quit bitching about none of the actors in RotK receiving an acting nod...no one in Master and Commander or in Seabiscuit received nominations. Crappy acting? I don't think so. Only that some actors depend and support and illuminate the others around them. At least the Academy didn't see fit to reward Nicholson the nth time for playing Jack Nicholson in Something's Gotta Give. Too bad they fell for Diane Keaton playing Diane Keaton in the same film. (Keaton mentioned that she'd love to work with Nicholson again--hmmm, maybe they can stretch themselves next time and at least try to play each other!)

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Harvey Weinstein

    by changer624

    With ROTK racking it up in Oscar nods & Cold Mountain getting snubbed, I bet you Weinstein's regretting his decision of not letting PJ do 3 LOTR films for Miramax. I loved the "Revenge is Sweet" look on Jackson's face when he thanked Weinstein for his "support" at the Golden Globes.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Orion'sAngel...

    by MisterGrimloch

    ok, so you are not saying that Finding Nemo is a bad film. i understand that. at the same time you are claiming it is an "overrated piece of garbage". but yet, you are not saying it is bad. ok. i got it. you will understand then when i say that while ROTK is not a "bad film", i do feel that it is a "pathetically bad pile of dog turds roasting on an unshaven, severed scrotal sac". but i am NOT saying it is a bad film. no. when i say that the excision of Chris Lee was "the single most moronic editing decision by a director", i am not calling Jackson a poor director. further, you will forgive my jubilant cry of "Thank God!", when ROTK fails to win any of these unimportant trophies, or my terrified shriek of horror should it win them all. finally, i ask that you grant me your patience and understanding when i refer to the entire LOTR fanbase as a bunch of "crybaby, whining, hypocritical sycophants", but that i most certainly do NOT think poorly of said persons. thank you.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Oscar Noms

    by tom_joad

    My biggest disappointment is that no acting noms for anyone in ROTK, with that said, I think that the reason is that all were very good and its an ensemble movie, that its very difficult to single out a single performance. But anyway, these are career defining roles, they wont need to get an oscar for these roles, they will be forever etched in our memory. My biggest glee is Keisha Castle-Hugues nomination and the A Mighty Wind song nomination. Nicole Kidman, whom I adore, didnt deserve one this year, Cold Mountain was just not that good, Sean Penn was better in 21 Grams than in Mystic River, I think Mystic River is slightly overrated. Charlize Theron in Monster was good but it was a mannered, mimicry kind of acting, Naomi Watts I think should win but will probably wont. All in all the noms seems better than the previous years, some sad omissions but some wonderful surprising noms too.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:27 p.m. CST

    matrix:lotr;apples:oranges

    by minderbinder

    Slobro, I don't take issue with your notion that the Matrix deserved better. But that has zero to do with whether LotR wins or not. LotR doesn't have to be better than the Matrix, just better than the other four movies nominated. And if LotR wins, it won't be because the academy suddenly decided to drop their biases, it will be because someone finally made a movie that they can't get away with ignoring. As far as I'm concerned, seeing movies like the Matrix get shafted is all the more reason to root for a movie like RotK to win.

  • Jan. 28, 2004, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Robbed

    by Mr. N

    BIG FISH is the most robbed entity at this years oscars... better than any film I saw this year... KILL BILL at least for sound and production design. SCARLETT JOHANSSON cause she's amazing and hot too boot, she should be best actress. and CAT IN THE HAT.... oh wait i was thinking of the razzies... speaking of which have they been announced?

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 5:41 a.m. CST

    City of God - Film of the Year...

    by Shady Drifter

    A film nominated for best director, editing, script, cinematography... I would have guessed would add up to a best film nomination! Obviously not -with the same accademy which gave ocsars for best director, editing, script and supporting actor to Traffic only to give best film to Gladiator!!! Someone at the accademy isn't too bright (understatement of the year?)! And I guess the Weinstein brothers have one coming for them during ceremony night if both Peter Jackson AND Samantha Morton win an oscar... hope they remember them in their speeches!!!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 8:38 a.m. CST

    No hobbits, no justice

    by Melian

    I wholeheartedly agree with CKnightShift. At least Sir Ian McKellen should have n=been there (preferably accompanied by Sean Astin, and Elijah Wood could have got a bit more recognition, at the risk of sounding like a girlie teenager). I'm depressed now.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Orion'sAngel...

    by MisterGrimloch

    people like me? kid, while i enjoy having harmless debates with you, i've gotta tell ya, you have no idea what kind of person i really am. but yes, your initial post was funny, and i did assume that you were posting it as a jest.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Why I wonn't watch the Oscars, an editorial, by HOB, Esq.

    by HOB

    I refuse to watch the oscars because many many years ago, when i was a wee lad of ten, they refused to give the oscar, or even a nomination, to a movie that not only was a landmark achievement in cinema, but after watching it, changed my social, political, and religious views on this fragile thing we call life...Im talking about, of course, none other than Troma's Fat Guy Goes Nutzoid!! cmon people...u bitch and moan that elijah "morning" wood and sean asstin get no nominations, but did any of you ever stop and consider the acting of the great Tibor Feldman??? Did you???? Harry, why aren't you doing anything about this injustice?? the people want fat Guy Goes Nutzoid!!!

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 9:04 p.m. CST

    At Least 3 Reason Why ROTK Could Win Best Picture

    by duane106

    Last week, I read an interesting article in Express (a mini-version of the Washington Post) on the history of the Oscars. Regarding Best Picture Winners, the article noted that the movies with the best odds tend to be quite long, very large in scope and have the most nods. Films like Ben-Hur, Braveheart, Titanic, and Gladiator certainly meet those requirements. So does ROTK which has a long running time (3.5. hours, 10 if you count Parts 1 & 2), the widest scope of any 2003 movie, and the most Oscar nods. BTW, I've noticed that every 2 or 3 years an epic wins Best Picture. (For those keeping track, Gladiator won the Oscar back in 2001.) I'll add a fourth point that improves ROTK's chances for a win: guts. It's easy to forget that back in 2001 the LOTR trilogy was a bit of a longshot. I can imagine pundits' response after hearing about it: "An unknown director (Peter Jackson) wants to helm 3 fantasy films (uh boy) with no "A-list and/or flavor of the month" actors, no sex, no profanity, no hip dialogue, and no excessive irony. Also, New Line is paying this guy $300 M upfront so he can film the LOTR movies simultaneously since they are part of one large story. Doesn't this guy realize that Hollywood 'conventional wisdom' DEMANDS the first part of a film franchise (Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Matrix, etc.) must be a self-contained story so that, if it flops, the movie studio doesn't lose lots of money?" Of course, FOTR didn't flop, but was a major hit even with people who don't normally like fantasy. Well, this certainly explains why each film raked in $300 M+: no way fantasy geeks (and I mean that positively) could have pull this feat off. The critical response is even more amazing, especially for ROTK, which is suddenly popping up on all these Top Ten Lists, including those of critics who were initially dismissive of the films (e.g., Entertainment Weekly's Owen Gleiberman). Such positive reviews likely went a long way in helping LOTR get those 11 nods. Despite all this, there are naysayers who claim ROTK will be snubbed because it's fantasy, and fantasy films NEVER win Best Picture. (Of course, Black women aren't supposed to win the Best Actress Oscar, yet Halle Berry proved that myth false in 2002.) Even if LOTR gets snubbed, it's impact on film will last for decades. The number of fantasy films in the development are INCREASING in the wake of LOTR's critical and financial success. This is very similar to how Star Wars kicked off a flood of sci-fi films that continues to this day. LOTR is a reminder why you should take chances instead of playing it safe because the payoff can be unimaginable.

  • Jan. 29, 2004, 9:27 p.m. CST

    hey dickhertz, if your going to bash LOTR..

    by Bourne GreyElf

    ...than do it intellegently like MR. GRIMLOCK. Bring up some valid fucking points as to why Lotr sucks, because right now, your just making all the people that like it, like it more, and nobody here likes your stupid faggot ass. if you like conan so much, go maturbate on your fucking ahnuld poster for the 50th time already, and shove that barbarian sword shaped dildo right up your un-virgin ass you fucking dungeon master. and say hello to Mark Singer for me too when he comes over with hercules to gangbang your sorry punk ass. fucking 12 yr old.

  • The correct answer is: Dreamworks doesn't seem to have run any sort of "For Your Consideration" campaign at all for Millenium Actress, and, while Samuel Goldwyn Films ran a modest FYC campaign for Tokyo Godfathers, it was too little, too late to possibly overcome the critical momentum that The Triplets of Belleville is receiving this year. Neither Millenium Actress nor Tokyo Godfathers got on even 1/10th the amount of screens per weekend in North America that Disney put Spirited Away on pre-Oscar, so most of the important critics never even got to see them, and, as such, most of the Academy voters weren't even aware of these films outside of being titles on the short list they'd never heard of. It doesn't deserve to beat Finding Nemo (and it won't... Finding Nemo is going to steamroll everything else in the category this year), but I don't really have much problem with Brother Bear being on the final ballot, since, while it isn't quite on the same level as The Lion King or Lilo & Stitch, I found it to be a *lot* more enjoyable than what the critics said, and, in a hypothetical situation where I have to get rid of one of the nominees in order to get Millenium Actress on to the ballot, believe it or not, I'd spare Brother Bear and rub-out The Triplets of Belleville, which I also enjoyed but which was mainly quirky visuals with little real substance.

  • Jan. 30, 2004, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Orion'sAngel....

    by MisterGrimloch

    it was just an expression. do you think people would have objected if the movie had been called "Return of the Kid"?

  • Feb. 1, 2004, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Mys-ucked River

    by Impevan

    Probably the worst so-called "great" movie I saw all year. Nothing about this was original, nothing was mesmerizing, and even the actor's performances were so average, I'm in disbelief that it received so many nominations. Its amazing how far reputations in Hollywood can take you. ROTK had at least 7-8 stunning scenes, Mystic River: 0. Big Fish was far and away a superior movie to this boring piece of self-indulgent crap. Did anybody care about these characters. The only impressive performance was the kid who played the girl's boyfriend. Bacon and Fishburn, laughable. Every scene they were in was like "keystone cops" and I laughed out loud 3 times during supposed serious dialogue.