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Aronofsky's THE FOUNTAIN back to life' Pray!
Hey folks, Harry here... About a year and a half ago, Moriarty wrote a fantastic script review of a film called THE FOUNTAIN that was to be directed by Darren Aronofsky and to star Brad Pitt. (Click Here To Remember That Review) Then Brad Pitt left the project - and all was wrong with the universe. Film geekdom was struck with profound sadness and Moriarty began the wicked cheek bump with Harry Lime to drown out his sorrows. But wait, is light at the end of the dark tunnel I see? This report seems to indicate such, but let's not start popping those happy pills just yet. This will take further investigation! Here ya go...
Hi Harry,
I am sure you were watching the Golden Globes last night. But perhaps you
missed the arrivals show with (the despicable) Joan Rivers. Well, she
interviewed Ellen Burstyn and when asked what her next project would be,
replied that she would be playing a role in Darren Aronofsky's The
Fountain to begin filming this fall. I know that they just sold off all
the sets and also that Cate Blanchett will be making a movie called Little
Fish in Australia at about that time. But, just in case you missed it,
those were the words from Ellen Burstyn.
Lisa
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about 'Flicker'?
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I pray.
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Aronofsky will not ditch Year One, because he was already ditched from it. WB didn't like what he wanted to be so they got Nolan's project running instead. Year One hasn't officially been canned but AFAIK it's pretty much dead. WB just didn't like their script (which I pray gets leaked online some day)... if they had, Darren would probably have started making his BAtman film already. I would love to see him do Year One but Nolan's film already has some origin elements and It just seems unlikely it'll happen.************ Good news about the Fountain if true though. I guess he'll cast someone else in Pitt's role... wasn't Joaquim Phoenix a rumoured replacement at one stage?
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'The Fountain' put me in a coma! You only wish it could compare to the majesty and emotional emotionalness that is 'Lord of the Rings!' I will be discussing this news in every single talkback board, trying to give the impression of it being more significant than it really is, so you know it's not going away anytime soon!
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Peter Jackson's the new king! What's that Lucas? You scared? You want your mama? You sucking on your thumb oooohhhh I bet you are. You just wish you could do what PJ has done, which will go down in history as being the greatest directorial achievement ever, but you can't, 'cause you suck Lucas! Keep adding more CGI to your movies. You suck, your movies are a waste of time and everyone knows it except for immature, little haters.
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Just frustrated by rampant hypocrisy. Hope this news is for real. Somehow I doubt Pitt will be involved with the project, so who knows if the WB(?) is still funding it?
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Jan 26, 2004 9:06:44 AM CST
Isn't Nolan's "Batman" pretty much covering "Year One's" materia
by rev_skarekroe
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lotr is hardly the greatest directoiral achievement of all time. besides producing three awesome movies and making a shitload of money, the lotr trilogy hasn't added a damn thing to the art of filmmaking.
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the fountain sounded awesome, i hope its back on track.
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Maybe no one told her it has been cancelled. She is kind of old and possibly confused.
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Jan 26, 2004 11:58:56 AM CST
"lotr is hardly the greatest directoiral achievement of all time
by the llama
Well, you know, other than reviving fantasy as a legitimate cinematic genre and proving that CGI, if done with care, can be seamlessly melded with live-action. Dumbass.
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what exactly is the fountain about, any chance of some kind of information on the movie. does anybpdy know why he was kicked form year one?
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Will the fountain have like a guardian of the fountain of youth, like that knight dude from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade? Then cast the Hulkster as the guardian: "You chose poorly, Brother!"
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Who cares? Seriously. I actually talked to someone VERY close to the production and pumped him for details. Basically, the Pitt character has some tree he is carrying around with him and rubs the bark or some shit on his skin to keep himself young and now the tree is almost bare. His spaceship is some bubble thing. YAWN. Sounds LAME. Also, Aronofsky is apparently a HUGE asshole. He is such a prick the freaking studio called him in and told him to cool it. If the studio has to tell you to get a grip in HOLLYWOOD, you must be a monster asshole. Pi was pretty good but the pretentious histrionic Requiem is overrated beyond belief. Yeah that's right DA, the movie audience is a "mosh pit". Get over yourself. Also, Nolan's film seems to have lots of Year One elements. He's a great choice (Insomnia not withstanding). And I think there is a reason that his went so quickly into production while Aronofsky's lanquished. We may finally get the Batman movie we deserve after the flat dullness of Burton's and the sheer idiocy of Schumacher. Thank God he didn't get to do another one. You just KNOW it would have been Collin Farell. Hey, whatever on the Fountain. Maybe it will be great but I doubt it.
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I was distantly involved with this project and new many others who where closely working on it and I can tell you this film that was being made was going to be terrible! The script seemed good but some of the direction and general attitude from some of the higher up production staff was just awful... There seemed to be an almost intentional decision to try to undercut the director,s decisions and vision for the film. I'm glad it wasn't made.
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Jan 26, 2004 8:31:57 PM CST
Llama: "Well, you know, other than reviving fantasy as a legitim
by commando cody
Actually, while I enjoyed the LOTR films, let's have a core reality check here. (1) The notion that LOTR has made fantasy a legitimate and bankable genre again has YET to be proven. LOTR made bank, sure -- but then again, the films were based on books that are only regarded as the MOST read books in the world other than the Bible. So it's safe to say these flicks had a little something going for them to begin with. I'm not saying fantasy is or isn't back -- but to make your claim we really have to see how the NEXT fantasy genre flick does at the Box Office, or if there is any upsurge in fantasy novels hitting the NY Times Bestseller list. (2) The blending of CGI and live action "if done with care" wasn't proven by LOTR and Jackson (not to take anything away from their craftsmanship). If anything, THAT notion was proven long ago by Spielberg in the first Jurassic Park and with the T-Rex sequence where he blended CGI, animatronics and actors seemlessly into a 15 minute sequence that's as pure and perfect filmmaking as you'll ever see an example of. And that was 10 YEARS ago...
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....Well....ummm....it wasn't as awesome as Gollum, so it doesn't count. To be fair, it did kind of revolutionalize the way most people consider virtual performances (c'mon, did anybody think that one of those guys wearing a ping-pong ball suit would one day be seriously grouped with Oscar contenders come January?), but yeah, poor choice of words, and that's not what he meant anyway.
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although LOTR was not my favourite film, or film in the trilogy. At least it's use of CG, seems to have persuaded jim cameron to finally get off is ass and make a new high buget sci-fi.
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Who cares if it is overrated or not? It was a great movie and featured Jennfer Connely bush and other nudity. And you hear the music ripped off in every trailer and commercial now. I'd love to see a sci-film film by Aronosky or anything else for that matter.
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I fucking HATE Aranofsky. Pi sucked an incredible amount of ass, but I was simply not prepared for the "brown eye bonanza" of Requiem for a Dream. I find it difficult to empathize with despicable characters. I think most people do. That can be overcome with good material. There is such a thing as an anti-hero which can work very well. Mad Max, The Mariner, any character in Pulp Fiction for example. Pulp is a perfect example in fact. Every character is more or less self-centered. They live off the detriment of those around them. However, their acts are pushed to the background and explained as "something they do". Either it's their job or their twisted search for honor and self-respect. The characters themselves, both the dialogue, situations and acting rise above their nature. We don't want Vincent to get shot, but we want Bruce to get away at the same time. We CARE in one way or another about all of these expertly drawn and realized characters. At the other end of the scale is Requiem. I could give a shit about any of these rat fucks. They don't do what they do for any other reason than to get high. They have no goals at all, lofty or otherwise. They purposely hurt the people they supposedly care about to achieve these never ending goals. Now if I hate every character on screen, what's in it for me? What "voyage" am I going on? What will I learn, that drugs are bad? Wow, how daring. Oh, that's such a brave message, run that fucker up the flag pole and see who salutes. It's garbage. This is no Basketball Diaries. That was a story of a kid who got suckered into drug use. His relationship with his mother was temporarily destroyed. We saw his REGRET! Eventually he overcame the addiction and bettered himself. See? Now THAT'S a story I can identify with. I've never been a drug user, but when that hot chick offers it to him, I can at least UNDERSTAND why he did it. I can see that it took over his life step by step. I can see the anger and hurt in him. I can understand his actions. I am rooting for him to turn himself back around, and he does. He's learns the lesson, he's back on track, he's CHANGED! RFAD doesn't have anything like that. These kids start out as assholes, and they end up as assholes. They never show a shred of regret or any other human emotion. They're fucking drug machines who don't seem to care about anyone or anything but getting high. I ask you, in all sincerity, how the fuck can I identify with that? How can I take something away from this film other than "drugs are bad"? This is the fundamental reason why it's not a good film. At least show me how they got wrapped up in it, at least give me the opportunity to empathize a little. But no, Aranofsky is not concerned with the human element. He's not concerned with people identifying with his characters. You can spend all day saying "well that's how they really are". First of all I don't believe you. I think they are still human under all that self loathing. I'll bet they have human conversations. I'll bet they express themselves in a human way. I'll bet they talk about SOMETHING OTHER THAN DRUGS! Secondly, if they are all like that.....fuck 'em. I mean, why should I give a fuck about them? They're doing it to themselves, they're completely amoral fucking vermin and why should I give a shit about them? Starting to get the gist of this yet? The fact that Jenny is cute is NOT enough to make me care that she's a whore bitch with no aspirations at all. Sorry, I'm not that shallow. The fact that Jared is a nice looking kid does not make me regret he loses his arm. Nope, don't care. As for the crazy old bag which you guys think was so awesome in this film. She has like 15 lines in it. Mostly she just looks paranoid or about to vomit while the fish eyed lens zooms in on her mug. This is not good filmmaking people! RFAD is grade A crap! You can say it's a cautionary tale, but with nothing to compare the characters to, you just assume they've ALWAYS been assholes. If you never see that person in a normal state, then how are we to think of them in one? If we can't think of them in a normal state, then what have they lost? I didn't sense any loss from Leto's character. I 'll bet he was trying to figure out how to get his next score while he was lying in that hospital bed. Jenny was all curled up with her stash with a big fucking smile on her face. She didn't seem to mind at all what she had done to get it. There is never an attempt by any of the characters to seek help. All they had to do was go to the fucking methadone clinic. They never express any sort of regret for their situation. And what exactly is the dream they are holding the requiem for? The dream to be a drug dealer? They don't want a normal life, they LIKE being druggies! They are losers with no will or ambition to change. The addicts I knew are certainly in denial of their circumstances and basically lost causes. But that in itself does not make a good movie. If you want to make a documentary about it, you need perspective. You need history. At some point the interviewer has to ask the subject how they feel about the future. They have to be challenged to really understand how they think. THAT'S what makes a compelling human drama. If you just follow a drunk from bar to bar, and never discover anything about that person other than they like to drink, what the fuck is the point?
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It took an Aronofsky thread, but there he is!
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Are you kidding? Because the characters weren't sympathetic? They all totally were. In their heart, those were all good people trying to get by and drugs took hold. That was the point. And not in a Reefer Madness sort of way. Just because it didn't have a happy ending making it crap is ridiculous. Traffic basically tried to do the same thing as Requiem for a Dream, but not nearly as powerfully. Traffic was full of Miami Vice cliché's (Hmmm... the teenagers are doing drug, what's going to happen? The cop's partner is walking towards the bomb, what's going to happen? The close up of "NOOOOOO!" was classic in a McBain sort of way. The daughter is experimenting with drugs, what's going to happen?).
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Say what you mean Lord of the Dead! Stop beating around the bush. Actualy I have not even seen it!
Is it THAT good???!!!
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The characters were not sympathetic enough fett? What about when Leto's character used some of his drug money to buy his mother a big screen tv, or the fact that Connelly's character did not want to become a dope seller but only wanted to use it as a means to an end (opening a dress shop?). Maybe it was just how overtly visual the movie was to you or how, because of that, some considered it to be too visceral of an experience which I understand how you might hate it then (I BET YOU DIDN'T LIKE FIGHT CLUB EITHER!). But hey, at least there is no middling about it, people either really liked the movie or really hated it instead of just thinking it was "okay." Thenceforth I give up my top flicks of 2000 for consideration (1. Requiem For A Dream, 2. The Virgin Suicides, 3. Cast Away, 4. Unbreakable, 5. X-Men......that's all I remember, anyone else remember the faves from that year?)
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Fett's back! Praise Jesus! (sharpens knife)
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Where is 'The Fountain' script available from? Can Any1 pass it on?
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