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Wholly Jeebus! What A Beautiful Poster for THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST!
Hey folks, Harry here... Saw this poster online today and it just took my breath away. This is a classic poster. Instantly captivating and powerful, much like the film itself. Oh, and while I'm here with this particular subject, I'd like to address an issue about the "appeal" and/or "acceptance" of THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST as a film outside of the "mid-America Christian Right" which it seems so many in the film commentary community seem to love to profess.
I am not a religious person of deep faith. I do not know if I believe at this point in my life is Jesus was in fact the son of God, or if he ever even existed. I think it is likely that he existed. I don't have problems with those with deep faith, so long as it isn't being forced upon others. However, I will say that I like the Jesus story... in particular, my favorite telling of this story is in THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST. The lessons of grace and pacifism that the film is ultimately sharing... well that's the gold of the story. The way it shows how one man dealt with great injustice with the grace to not cry out for vengeance, now swear revenge, but rather... for forgiveness. Too bad so many of his so-called followers have yet to hear that final message, and with the film... perhaps more will.
I'm anxiously looking forward to seeing this on film and in its final form, but the mania about the film is most entertaining to watch. Ultimately, the title character does absolve all, whether the accept him or not, anyone with a good set of eyes and ears will see that.
Apologies: apparently this has been online for a bit. I first saw it this morning. Figured other might not have seen it quite yet.
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I love the Vandersexx ad underneath the picture of Jesus. Real nice. First by the way.
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sounds like you are having a slow day and needed a quick excuse to pull out a soap box.
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Does anybody else find it hilarious that right below a poster of a movie about Jesus is an advertisement for a movie set up to look like a porn ad.
If the Eurotrip ad centered on young boys though it would make more sense because Jesus and young boys are Catholic priest's 2 favorite things -
Jan 23, 2004 12:36:55 PM CST
Hey, this looks remarkably like the DVD cover of Last Temptation
by hobbitastic
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095497/
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Jan 23, 2004 12:37:59 PM CST
Did you hear what the original tagline was gonna be? "This Spri
by lance rock
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or Hobbits. LOTR kicks Gibsons Arse!
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"He came down from Heaven and chose the way of PAIN!"
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You know what this flick needs? Fast food tie-ins. Little crown of Thorns Happy Meals for the kids. It's fun.
You know, the Romans crucified thousands, perhaps millions, of people during their era. But you don't see people whining about those deaths for 2000 years do ya? Just drop it already.
Yeah, yeah, "I like the story." The problem comes from people who believe the story, and this flick can only create more of them. -
"Nothing can stop Him, he's on a mission from God"
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Sorry to all whom I offend.
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how many asses does this poster own? Because if it only owns some asses, then it would not not as cool as the Kill Bill teaser, which owns all the asses.
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(in an Ahnold Austrian accent): "I need a vacation"
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Jan 23, 2004 1:13:15 PM CST
"The way it shows how one man dealt with great injustice with th
by exit272
Try reading Matthew 10:32-34, Matthew 12:31-32, Mark 3:29, Luke 12:10, John 3:18 or 3:36.
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even though we constantly make fun of him for it. Lazy bastard.
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and star Ashton Kutcher as Judas
"You've been Punk'd Son of God!" -
I love how he has an ad for some sex club in europe right below the poster.
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Jesus Christ. The one man they should never have crossed.
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This looks amazing, totally beautiful. On A silmilar, albeit more light-hearted note (g#?) Check out the Starsky And Hutch trailer at http://mondoirlando.blogspot.com
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This better be funnier than Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter.
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I just find it really funny that a story and poster for "The Passion of Christ" is followed by an ad for a place called "Vandersexxx"!!!
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Jan 23, 2004 2:00:42 PM CST
It'd been better without the "A film by" and lead star credits
by durhay
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that the end didn't test well with focus groups so now instead of dying on the cross, Jesus machine guns the centurions and runs off with Mary Magdalene.
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then you geeks will know who's boss!
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Jan 23, 2004 2:18:38 PM CST
So is this the one where Jesus fights a thousand Agent Smiths or
by big bad clone
There is no spoon!
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Dude, there's this Floating Head of the Lord and a few inches below is an ad for VANDERSEXXXXX. That's brilliant! Just brilliant!!!
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But, I'm waiting for "The Passion of the the Christ II: The Revenge." It's all about him coming back today and sucking up humanity from the face of the earth and the only way to stop him is to dig into the earth's core and unleash Satan.
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Jan 23, 2004 2:33:12 PM CST
I think they should make "Jesus: No Holds Barred" starring Hulk
by mbaker
Whatchu' gonna do when god runs wild on you, brother!
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Best line of the film? When Jesus turns to his over-the-edge partner (Mel Gibson) and says, "I'm getting too old for this shit."
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a marketing dream...
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it was his understanding that Pat Robertson was going to direct. He's seriously thinking of giving Mel Gibson "the most heinous and unholy smiting ever conjured up by the god of eternal love". - No shit.
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JESUS CHRIST: VAMPIRE HUNTER! Great taglines: "They no longer fear the sun, so now they must fear the Son!" and "The power of Christ impales you!"
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Jan 23, 2004 3:00:20 PM CST
The head of Jesus, the boobs and belly of Michelle Trachtenberg
by godoffireinhell
What a combination! I have come 5 times already ...
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Crown of Thorns: $20, Loincloth: $8, Knowing you will start a religion and that people will kill and maim each other in your name for millenia to come: Priceless. MasterJoke.
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How do you live in Texas as an agnostic? Doesn't it bother you to be surrounded by so many fundies? Doesn't the fact that there's a 300-ft cross in Groom bother or scare you? I marvel at this, especially considering you now have the choice to live anywhere you please.
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In the year 2004...............
The Jews will.................
KILL.............
Christ!...............
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I, for one, find the action movie-like taglines you guys are inventing to be hilarious. So please keep them coming. What if, as the Roman centurions pull Jesus' body down from the cross, he looks straight at the camera and promises, "I'll be back." This all leads to THE PASSION 2: Judgement Day, THE PASSION Resurrections, and THE PASSION 3: Rise Rise of the Obscene (in which Satan is unleashed after the 1000 years of peace).
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Jan 23, 2004 3:36:58 PM CST
So now I have to take AICN off my favorites never to return
by matthooper8
First comparing Neo to Osama now this. Drop dead you fat fuck.
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Jan 23, 2004 3:38:28 PM CST
I think it is funny & ironic that there is a porn ad under the J
by nice marmot
Oh wait, have 30 other people already said that in their talk back? My Bad!
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I am not a Christian but thats bad taste. Way to keep the spirit of Jesus alive there. Next will come the remastered Gandhi DVD with a gunstore ad underneath.
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Got Messiah?
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"the only way to stop him is to dig into the earth's core and unleash Satan." Thank you for that one. Funny stuff.
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So let me get this straight
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by the way, I thought I came up with "Yahweh or the Highway" on my own. But I just google'd that phrase and it came up with over 500 hits. So, whether I copied subconsciously or not, I was not the first. :-)
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"Some say you are you are god and some say you are man" Jesus [wearing Vampire Hunter D's hat]:"I'm a little bit of both"
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"Your sins are the problem. Meet the cure."
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Perhaps I can add a serious point into this talk-back as unlikely as that may seem... People seem to be thinking that this film will only appeal to the Christian audience, when in actual fact I think most Christians will be skeptical of the film. I certainly have major doubts about this film and whether it can really portray what this whole story is all about. The point should not be just that Jesus didn't cry out in venegence, but that Jesus HAD to go up on that cross, and he knew it, to save us! Without this act our sins cannot be forgiven. You can doubt my belief, but I know Jesus personally, and nothing can change that. Unless this film can get the main gospel message across I think a lot of Christian will be skeptical
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Jan 23, 2004 4:38:19 PM CST
which poster is it... the guy with the thorns or the porno chick
by russman
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Jan 23, 2004 4:41:21 PM CST
"Helping only those motherfuckers who help their own motherfucki
by russman
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I don't say that simply as a matter of faith, but as a matter of historical education to those present (apparently including Harry) who are unaware of this fact. The debate about Jesus Christ involves his significance and spiritual identity, not his historical existence. Non-Christian historians recognize him as one of the most well-established figures of ancient history, but deny his deity. Liberal New Testament scholars reject the supernatural claims of the Bible, but unanimously agree he was a historical man. This is what the whole "historical Jesus" debate is about. Groups such as the Jesus Seminar offend traditional Christians by claiming the Jesus we know of from history was merely a moral teacher, Jewish peasant, etc. While they can't come to consensus on his exact teachings or deeds, even those who are outright atheists recognize Jesus as a true human, right alongside Julius Caesar, Cleopatra, Mohammed, etc. Those who question whether there really ever was a Palestinian Jew in the first century named Jesus who had disciples, was crucified by the Roman government, and was very quickly reputed by some people to be the Jewish Messiah are simply not up on historical scholarship. Where you go with his identity beyond that obviously runs into your own personal philosophical issues real quick. But don't say you doubt the existence of Jesus; you only expose yourself as ignorant of the historical record. I hope that's helpful to anyone curious.
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"Strong enough for a god, but made for a woman." (I can't stop posting today!)
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Jan 23, 2004 5:01:13 PM CST
I can't wait for the critical praise on the DVD box: "Wow...wow.
by big bad clone
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Jan 23, 2004 5:07:38 PM CST
Product Tie-In: "Nike Cross Trainers - feel as if you're walking
by eraser_x
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Jan 23, 2004 5:09:39 PM CST
"Up there with the king of all kings... the best of the best"
by russman
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Well, you got that right at least. He will be back.
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Women cried to take me down, (talkin' 'bout my crucifixion) When I was hangin' 'bove the ground. (talkin' 'bout my crucifixion) Curtains tore and people wept, (talkin' 'bout my crucifixion)
While slowly out the crypt I crept. (talkin' 'bout my crucifixion)
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From Risky Business... but it fit's perfectly!
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Jan 23, 2004 5:24:22 PM CST
"Their First Mistake Was to Crucify Him, Their Second Was To Pis
by big bad clone
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Jan 23, 2004 5:24:47 PM CST
Just when you thought it was safe to join the Sanhedrin...
by maestro_sartori
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He looks weird, is he supposed to be a wizard or something? What's this movie about anyways? Fuck Christ, fuck him up his stupid asses. Yay mel gibson! I like the passion. Bye everyone!
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The PAIN!!!
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Jan 23, 2004 5:30:44 PM CST
"From the Producer of The Universe, the Creator of Man comes his
by big bad clone
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Jan 23, 2004 5:31:59 PM CST
EXIT272: You're badly misquoting both Harry and the Scriptures
by admonisher
In the context of Harry's piece, when he says "The way it shows how one man dealt with great injustice with the grace to not cry out for vengeance..." he is clearly contrasting a philosophy of Christians behaving as pacifists vs. Christians revenging themselves on their enemies. As someone who feels comfortable citing Scripture as a form of argument, you should be well aware that Christ constantly called upon his disciples to treat their enemies with gentleness, discernment, forgiveness, and above all LOVE. I would say that the following quote (Matthew 5:43-44) does a far more accurate job of capturing the essence of Jesus' message: "Ye heard that it was said, 'Thou shalt love thy neighbor and hate thine enemy.' But I say to you, keep on loving your enemies, blessing those who curse you, doing well to those who hate you, and keep on praying for those who despitefully use you and are persecuting you". In any case, Harry is talking about the behavior of Christians towards their fellow human beings, whereas all the New Testament verses you cite refer rather to the righteousness of God towards His children. If your selective quoting of Scripture is intended, then, to depict God as unjustly vengeful (or something along those lines), then your purpose falls apart once we actually look at the CONTEXT of each passage. ++++++++++ [Matthew 12:31-32, Mark 3:29, Luke 12:10] PASSAGE: These three verses are basically identical. Here's the Matthew quote: "On this account I say to you every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven to men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven to men. And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this age nor in the coming one." Ouch! Sounds pretty harsh, right? But what does it mean to blaspheme against the Spirit of God? CONTEXT: Jesus has just performed a healing miracle by casting out a demon. The Pharisees, unable to refute this act, claim: "This One casteth not out demons except by Beelzebul, ruler of the demons." But this is contrary to the Pharisees' own theology, and Jesus exposes their hypocracy. For political purposes, they have taken what they know to be from the Spirit of God and publicly attributed it to the prince of demons. A more vile blasphemy is hard to imagine. Jesus is emphasizing that sins of ignorance or being in the wrong -- EVEN CONCERNING THE MESSIAH -- can be forgiven; whereas sins of pure, malicious hypocracy are beyond absolution. A person who KNOWS God's truth and slanders it anyway, for selfish reasons, is a person who hates God in his heart. Such a person will reject God's love and forgiveness and remain in his own hell of hatred. ++++++++++ [Matthew 10:32-34] PASSAGE: "Everyone therefore who shall confess in Me before men, I also will confess in him before My Father Who is in the heavens. But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father Who is in the heavens. Never think that I came to cast peace on the earth; I came not to cast peace, but a sword." CONTEXT: Jesus has just finished instructing his disciples on how to go about their mission of continuing Jesus' ministry -- that Jesus the Christ is the ultimate manifestation of God's universal love for all mankind, and therefore all men should love one another and minister to one another as co-inheritors of God's kingdom. He tells them: "And as ye go, be preaching, saying, 'The kingdom of the heavens hath drawn near.' Be healing the sick, cleansing lepers, raising the dead, casting out demons; freely ye received, freely give. Do not begin to procure for yourselves gold, nor silver, nor money in your belts..." (Matt. 10:7-9). He knows that this radical philanthropy -- which challenges and overcomes all barriers of class, race, gender, nationality, etc. -- will be controversial; that the message of universal love will be as a sword upon the Earth. The freeing of the slaves caused the bloodiest war in American history, and the struggle for racial equality turned many sons against fathers and mothers against daughters. But even in the face of violent opposition, Jesus instructs: "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye go out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet." (Matt. 10:14). In this way, the spreading of the Gospel is inseperable from pacifism. Perhaps you meant to quote the next verse (Matt 10:15), where Jesus says: "Verily I say to you, it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city." Which raises the important questions: What is the day of judgment? In what way will it be "tolerable" or "intolerable" for those who are "judged"? Actually, another verse which you quote can help to address these questions. ++++++++++ [John 3:18] PASSAGE: "The one who believeth in Him is not judged; but the one who believeth not hath already been judged, because he hath not believed in the name of the Only-begotten Son of God." CONTEXT: Now let's take a look at the verse in the context of the verses immediately before and after it: "For God did not send forth His Son into the world in order that He might condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. The one who believeth in Him is not judged; but the one who believeth not hath already been judged, because he hath not believed in the name of the Only-begotten Son of God. And this is the judgment, that the light hath come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light, for their works were evil." I'm very glad you chose this passage, because it illustrates perfectly a very important point. The fear of a vengeful, inescapable judge-figure may be a necessary moderating factor towards the disciplining of a corrupt, unenlightened, or barbaric people -- and indeed, the metaphor has been sometimes used in Scripture for exactly these purposes. HOWEVER, those with a discerning mind, who read the scriptures in their totality (as opposed to the biased and selective isolation of verses), will realize that the "judgment" of God is NOT (as we read in the above passage) to "condemn the world"; rather, God's "judgment" is nothing less than the inescapable, unquenchable light of his love, come in to the world, and revealing the truth of men's hearts (I Cor. 4:5). Jesus claims he will say to the wicked on the day of judgment: "Go from me, ye who have been cursed" (Matt. 25:41). The original tense is important (and here it helps to have the original Greek) ... Jesus does not curse them; they have ALREADY been cursed by their own actions. The same tense is used in the very verse you cite (John 3:18): those whose "works were evil", they "hath ALREADY BEEN judged". The light is a curse for these, because they "loved the darkness rather than the light." God's judgment for all human beings is that they know and experience his love; but those who have rejected love in their hearts, and failed to manifest it in their lives, will find this "judgment" intolerable. This is the Eastern Christian meaning of "Heaven" and "Hell". Read the New Testament, and notice how both the blessed experience of the saints together with Christ and the wretched experience of the condemned with the Devil are alike described in terms of "fire" and "burning". Unfortunately, Western Christianity (and sometimes even ignorant Eastern Christians) has too-often promulgated a corrupted, negative theology that leads people to think of God in such strictly juridicial terms (I'm thinking of a recent CNN article that says: [Gibson said the film gestated in his imagination for 12 years as he meditated on the gospel stories of a God who became human so he could pay the price for human sin. "He could have done it by pricking his finger and shedding a little blood. He didn't; he wanted to go all the way," Gibson said.] The Orthodox do not consider this good theology. Apologies to "smallmonkey", but I think the comment "Without this act our sins cannot have been forgiven" dangerously misses the point; I don't believe Jesus came because it was "necessary" to render infinite satisfaction for an infinitely offended deity ... I prefer to think of it in these terms: that Christ became incarnate out of co-suffering love, to experience our infirmity as we experience it; to transfigure by His participation every aspect of our lives, even submitting to death; and to show us the way back to loving union with the Father from whom we had wilfully estranged ourselves. Indeed, under this theology, the "single drop of blood" statement is nonsensical.) I beg forgiveness if I have, through my own ignorance or fault, misrepresented the Orthodox Christian faith. I encourage people who are interested in the Eastern Christian teachings concerning "the day of judgment" and "hell" to pick up a copy of "The Ikon As Scripture" by Archbishop Lazar Puhalo, as it includes the excellent essay "The River of Fire" by Dr. Alexandre Kalomiros. ISBN: 919-672-45-0
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It lives 50 fifty feet beneath the city. It's 36 feet long. It weighs 2,000 pounds ...And it's about to break out!
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Jan 23, 2004 5:33:12 PM CST
"Gee, I guess that didn't like that 'Bigus Dickus' joke..."
by big bad clone
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Will Dr. Loomis be in it?
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Jan 23, 2004 5:34:49 PM CST
Notes from the test audience: "He needs a funny sidekick like Ro
by big bad clone
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Jan 23, 2004 5:35:11 PM CST
The Variety Headline the monday after opening weekend Mel wants
by lance rock
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When Jesus wakes up, will they have a scene with Igor, Dr. Frankenstein and Inga eating breakfast and hearing that "yummy sound"? You know, MMMMMMMMMM!!!! (Brother!)
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Station!!!
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-- from Cliffhanger, but it's perfect!!!
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I don't know how many people have seen this, but in that opening scene where the girl falls to her death, just KEEP WATCHING THE OLD GUY HOLDING THE LINE THE WHOLE TIME. Do NOT take your eyes off him. You won't believe what you see.
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"You can only turn the other cheek for so long." "Forgive them, Father, for they know not that THEY ARE GOING TO DIE." "They nailed him to a cross and buried him deep inside the earth...but now they haven't got a prayer." "He may have once rode an ass...but now he's kicking it."
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Jan 23, 2004 5:43:06 PM CST
License to Heal, On His Holiness's Secret Service, A View to A C
by big bad clone
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Jan 23, 2004 5:43:36 PM CST
Imagine if they filmed it in SoCal during the dry season...
by maestro_sartori
Crossfire!
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Jan 23, 2004 5:45:56 PM CST
Theme song: If You Ever Get Between the Moon and New York City
by big bad clone
Oh wait, that's Chris Cross
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Is Danny Glover in this one too?
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Jan 23, 2004 5:50:01 PM CST
Overvoice: Unbeknownst to this rabid gaggle of voyeuristic sadis
by maestro_sartori
We've replaced their regular Jesus with Folger's Mountain-Grown Jesus Crystals. Let's watch.
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Jan 23, 2004 5:50:41 PM CST
I hope the films better than the poster coz that poster's Jesus
by lil ze
I'm white but he's even too white for me. I aint even saying Jesus was black or nothing, but in 2004 can't we have made him just a tad darker, just for the poster? That guy up there just looks like a sad honkey.
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Christ is a fucking ALIEN!!!!!!!!!
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Jan 23, 2004 5:56:39 PM CST
"He always wanted to be special but he never expected this"
by big bad clone
From TeenWolf
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No way! Yahweh!
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Jan 23, 2004 6:03:02 PM CST
Jesus says: "Waiter! I've been waiting 12 hours for my Perrier!
by eraser_x
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...this party's dead anyway.
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Jan 23, 2004 6:08:34 PM CST
Product tie-in: "Apply Cortaid in the morning to control that ha
by eraser_x
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Jan 23, 2004 6:09:07 PM CST
Passion 2, the NEXT 12 hours: All Hell breaks loose as Jesus let
by maestro_sartori
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... Nine hundred ninety-nine thousand, nine hundred ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall ..."
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Jan 23, 2004 6:14:14 PM CST
product tie-in: "Nokia hands-free phone!: use voice-dialing when
by eraser_x
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I can't think of a good punchline... and what was money called back then... not dollars but something else.
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Jan 23, 2004 6:24:27 PM CST
"They stole his frankinsense, his mir and his gold, now he wants
by russman
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Jan 23, 2004 6:24:30 PM CST
"WELL YA KNOW SOMETHIN' MEAN GENE, I'M THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND T
by batvomit
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Jan 23, 2004 6:29:33 PM CST
first pee wee herman or chris elliot come by and tickle Jesus's
by eraser_x
Then jesus goes into a paroxysm (spelling?) of giggles and beg him to stop. Repeat. Great laughs.
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Jan 23, 2004 6:36:30 PM CST
an effeminate interior decorator, wearing a beret, comes by with
by eraser_x
The decorator's assistant is on a step ladder next to Jesus. The decorator looks hard at Jesus. The decorator says, "a little higher; no, that's too high; no, a little more, .. HOLD IT, that's it". While the decorator was directing, the assistant has pulled out the nail from Jesus's hand using a claw hammer, and has been moving the hand around; when the position is just right, the assistant re-nails the nail. Then the assistant moves his step ladder to the other hand ...
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Jan 23, 2004 6:46:41 PM CST
the camera pulls back and pans across several other people on cr
by eraser_x
They are the cast of Survivor! Then the announcer cuts in and cheerfully announces: "Next week, find out who is the Survivor!" Theme music comes on. The scene fades to black. And in the near blackness a different voice comes on and says: "I win, I'm the sole survivor!"
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Jan 23, 2004 6:57:34 PM CST
Announcer: "Tonight at 8, the History Channel proudly presents:
by eraser_x
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someone on the set had a reason to say "Dude! Don't say pigfucker in front of Jesus!"
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Jan 23, 2004 7:05:58 PM CST
turns out, this is a Microsoft ad from a few years ago, and the
by eraser_x
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Jan 23, 2004 7:07:05 PM CST
actually, it's a magazine ad, and the caption says: "I'd Rather
by eraser_x
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...first.
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Jan 23, 2004 7:10:57 PM CST
"People were his passion. God was his inspiration. Angora togas
by jaguart
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http://mondoirlando.blogspot.com
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http://mondoirlando.blogspot.com
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Jan 23, 2004 7:34:03 PM CST
Thats the last time i tell the one about the two jews in a broth
by dukedemondo
this is too addictvie, and will cost me my soul. Like Sunny D.
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The best part of this film is at the end when they start singing,"Always look on the bright side of life..."!
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....and Jesus wept for he wanted to be playd by Lornzo Lamas.
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Jan 23, 2004 8:19:24 PM CST
"He died for your sins, now He's coming to collect....POTC....20
by cranialleak
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But now, apparently, we must descend into the bowels of political trolling.
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Jan 23, 2004 9:03:54 PM CST
"Too bad so many of his so-called followers have yet to hear tha
by theginger twit
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"You can say anything you want cause I've heard it all before. I'm gonna crucify you anyway. Not to get information. It's amusing to me, to torture a Jew. All you can do is pray to your dad for a quick death, which you ain't gonna get!"
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FINALLY, RELIGION AND PORN UNITE!
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Jan 23, 2004 9:28:11 PM CST
But Jesus loves porn... seriously, type it into a search engine
by theginger twit
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Jan 23, 2004 9:31:54 PM CST
Anyone ever see Disney's Hercules?... or Donner superman? It's a
by theginger twit
I have no problem with Christ or God... just those dickhead who follow them.
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Year:2004...Gospel's been preached...Game over!
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christonomist has got it damn straight. I believe in Jesus's existence like I do the existence of Plato or the existence of William the Conquerer. What Einstein said about Gandhi is pertinent here: "Generations to come, it may be, will scarcely believe that such a one as this ever in flesh and blood walked upon this earth." Granted, there are some historical figures, such as Homer, who might actually be multiple people. I don't believe that anyone has ever seriously advanced this theory regarding Jesus, but, as Ralph Waldo Emerson said in his essay, "Plato; or, the Philosopher": "It is singular that wherever we find a man higher, by a whole head, than any of his contemporaries, it is sure to come into doubt, what are his real works. Thus, Homer, Plato, Raffaelle, Shakspeare. For these men magnetise their contemporaries, so that their companions can do for them what they can never do for themselves; and the great man does thus live in several bodies, and write, or paint, or act, by many hands: and, after some time, it is not easy to say what is the authentic work of the master, and what is only of his school."
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Sorry if offended anyone. Making fun of what people believe, if it makes them a better person, is downright ill mannered. Again, didn't mean to upset anyone (Although I'm sure no one was. They were pretty lame jokes.) Sorry, and i really really can't wait for this film. The posters beautiful.
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I am alright, don't nobody worry about me...
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yeah? that's what I read from a gossip column. Eh, it wasn't really Franco Zeffirelli but Mel Gibson. Franco was just Mel's puppet. Eh? :)
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Jan 23, 2004 11:00:16 PM CST
In 2004, the son of God becomes one mean son of a bitch
by darthhomercles
You all have been targeted for termination!
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yes. Great poster by the way.
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Jan 23, 2004 11:04:06 PM CST
OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!
by villiee_marsha
OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!
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If anything, the passion of Christ has emphasized the value of unselfish love and compassion as well as a belief that human beings have an inherent dignity that goes beyond what most of us experience. See how I got to the Star Trek: The Motion Picture quote. HA HA HA ha haaa eh eh Ok it is was a lame attempt at humor.//
Below is for Admonisher:
The Catholic Church accepts two aspects of salvation. One emphasizes the supernatural restoration of mankind to an immortal and Divine life, the other realistic, which considers it rather as the expiation sins through the death of Christ. The two tendencies run side by side with an occasional contact, but at no time did the former completely absorb the latter, and in course of time, the realistic view became preponderant.
The word redemptio is the Latin Vulgate rendering of Hebrew kopher and Greek lytron which, in the Old Testament means generally a ransom-price. In the New Testament, it is the classic term designating the "great price" (I Cor., vi, 20) which Christ paid for the liberation of human beings.
Redemption has reference to both God and human beings. On God -
Jan 23, 2004 11:36:40 PM CST
I find listening to christians who know their shit to be quite e
by theginger twit
see, The biggest problemwith christians sprouting off their knowledge is, they have absolutely nothing to say that i haen't heard before. I've even been to a evolution vs creation debate held by christions... and notonly were they (big surprise) pro creation, they wouldn't even hear the evolution side of the article. They're responce was that 'we've all heard the case for evolution, lets consentrate on the truth.' So many times i find myself seeing the big picture that creationists jump over everything for that final answer that we were all created by a devine force... whereas Evolutionist want to fill in the blanks... and why the hell can't creationist believe in evolution? Certainly it's a feasible way that God would work - rather than just placing us all here. The Big bang theory is also just religion diquised as science. To believe that the universe is expanding because of triangulation - followed by reverse thinking that if it's expanding, then at one point it must have all been together in one infintisimal speck... well - why not just go back to believing the Earth is at the centre of the universe. This then brings me to all this debate over water on mars. What the fuck do they think is in the polar ice caps? Dry ice you say? Ok... but we have dry ice here too. infact, we have everything they claim is 'out there'. They'll talk about helium and hydrogen atoms which make up atmospheric gasses and cause the colour refraction from light - but why is it so hard to believe that water exists anywhere else but Earth? Water is just oxygen and hydrogen. And does anybody doubt that the earths oceans came from commets? Who really knows... but why is it so hard to just believe... this all comes down to whether or not the story of Jesus is real. Seriosuly, from someone who's read the bible twise, been to all the bible classes and been raised with the hardest core of all the religious factions - WHO GIVES A FUCK?? Everyday in the news people are dying at the hands of oppression and big coorporations. Every day someone is tortured. Everyday someone claims to be the son of God, or on speaking terms with the big guy... and if you read up on all the other religions out there you'll find that ALL of them have the same basic elements... born of the virgin, 12 disiples or followers, crushing of the serpants, and then finally, crusifixion and resurrection. Krishna, Horas, Heyzues.... all Jesus Christ in someone else tougne. And God and Devil... say it fast - Good and Evil. The worlds is a breeding ground of insanity - and here I am falling into another catagory. And to think that these religious people can win the argument by saying it was all predicted in the old testament and prooved in the new testament... Jesus christ all mighty help us. And then we're now hearing that the popes offical view of PASSION FOR CHRIST is the true and accurate account - just as it happened? The middle East is full of middle Eastern people. Not blue eyed whites - that's bad news for the christion offshoot known as the KKK. Or our beloved world leader George W. I'm gunna fuck you up if you don't agree with me Bush. And finally, It's all based on the ancient tellings of the stars and astrolgy... the first calendar started in the month of septembre' ie Virgo - then the SUN rises and passes through the 12 zodiac signs... and as the year passes the sun rises and dips for 3 days, both in december and Easter - the death and resurrection. God damn I'm sick of everything!
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Man, so many of these taglines are just priceless. Keep them coming!! It doesn't get old. "Old Jerusalem is about to E X P L O D E." "Nothing in the afterlife has prepared you for this." "No guns, no knives, no stuntmen. No equal." "In the past, he turned water into wine...BUT NOW he's turning his enemies into ash." "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord. 2-0-0-4." "Some believe that there is no God in the universe...this spring, we'll wish they were right." "
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If you heard it all before then you would know that not all Christians are opposed to the theory of Evolution, Catholics are among them. The Catholic Church does not oppose the theory of Evolution. By the why I don
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I think Russman
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A tie is, "Some believe that there is no God in the universe...this spring, we'll wish they were right." That's right, that right....
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Like Dick Hertz said in another talkback - this movie needs lots of TITS.
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Jan 24, 2004 12:12:55 AM CST
Tagline: "Stop it with the taglines or the Son of God shall smit
by forward_deploymx
Excellent movie poster. Really captures the aura and gravitas of the story at the core of the movie. And guys, enough with the 'Revolutions will own your ass' or 'so and so is the sexiest Tomboy peanpole on the planet' and please, dear God, no more obligatory 'fo' shizzle my nizzle' or your may find your ass kizzled...brother. *******Looking forward to 'The Passion of the Christ', 'Kill Bill V. 2', and 'Spiderman 2.'
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You guys are simply too much - and ya gots too much time on your hands.
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How did the first one look like?
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How did the first one look like?
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Jan 24, 2004 12:18:25 AM CST
WOW! My twisted sister loved it! And she never like anything!
by villiee_marsha
I can't believe it! :)
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I can't wait until this film is gone from the multiplexes, then the religious freaks can go back into hiding.
Yo admonisher, nobody cares about your long winded crap. -
Star wars Episode III footage over at www.iesb.net
Check it out. Pretty fucking cool!!!! -
Jan 24, 2004 12:55:56 AM CST
"Jesus Christ walk in to an Inn, hands the Innkeeper 3 nails and
by pi$$boy
"Can you put me up for the night"
-The Crow- -
[A line of prisoners files past a jailer.]
Coordinator: Crucifixion?
Stan: Yes.
Coordinator: Good. Out of the door, line on the left, one cross each.
[Next prisoner.]
Coordinator: Crucifixion?
Jesus: Er, no, freedom actually.
Coordinator: What?
Jesus: Yeah, they said I hadn't done anything and I could go and live on an island somewhere.
Coordinator: Oh I say, that's very nice. Well, off you go then.
Jesus: No, I'm just pulling your leg, it's crucifixion really.
Coordinator: [laughing] Oh yes, very good. Well...
Jesus: Yes I know, out of the door, one cross each, line on the left. -
methinks that was a wee bit of a steal from Life of Brian.
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I've seen and heard worse at Sunday school.::::::::Why are Jewish higher ups attacking this film?::::::::
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Thought I was the only athiest around. Now I feel a little bit better.::::::::THANK YOU FOOLS, SEE YOU IN HELL::::::::
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Mesa maxi bombad son of biggo gods!
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"Frodo, why hast thou forsaken me?"
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Jan 24, 2004 2:24:09 AM CST
The Irony of the THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST Poster... over the Va
by sgt. black
... I am sure a sly grin spreads across the almighty's face, and one spreads across mine that Harry Knowles inadvertently is spreading the Good News. HA! "Either way, Christ is preached."
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And while we're on Payback; The jew tagline; "Get ready to cheer for the bad guy!"
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Jan 24, 2004 3:16:39 AM CST
For my next trick, i'm gonna turn this water into.... funk!!
by womb2doom
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Jan 24, 2004 3:33:10 AM CST
Jesus is the sexiest tomboy nailed to a beanpole on the planet
by jules windex
Funniest talkback since the one about the Hot Wheels movie btw!
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heres a joke for ya:
why was micheal jackson dangling his baby off the balcony?
Cuz it wouldnt eat its plate full of sperm.
why was steve irwin dangling his baby infront of a crocodile?
because he's a fuckwit. -
Jan 24, 2004 4:28:45 AM CST
"As far back as I can remember, I've always wanted to be a savio
by shogunpoker
Brooklyn, NY 1955
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i know the story, he dies, he comes back, just like The Crow
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I heard they're making a prequel tentatively titled "Three Wise Men and a Baby Jesus", or "How I learned to stop worrying and love the savior", or "Bringing Up Baby Jesus". The tagline: Jesus is back, but this time he is double-crossed. The lead is going to be played by Mekhi Phifer. Either way I won't be seeing this, as I hate biopics.
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I really mean everything I said.
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Jesus has left the building
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and jesus returned to hobbiton. he took a deep breath,"well, I'm back".
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this spring thou shalt be rocked
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At BNAT, I imagined the poster might depict something like that table of torture weapons that we saw just before the flogging (even though it was pointed out there was to be some digital enhancing to this in the final cut). Although I think this is a WONDERFUL poster, it uses a pretty literal image, which surprises me when I think that Mel didn't even want to add subtitles at first. This gorgeous movie uses a host of artistic tools, including the phonetic and historical significance of language, to tell a compelling story. There are so many good images to choose from in the movie and they all speak volumes about the depth of human cruelty and the potential of humans to rise above it through the example of Christ's passion. I like Harry's comment about forgiveness. I thought often of the significance of forgiveness and love in Christ's teaching and example as I watched this movie. "The Passion..." is packed with lots of good things for non-religious movie-goers to religious fundamentalists. I wish all the best for this movie and feel honored that I had a chance to see it with my fellow BNAT-ers.
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http://homepages.nyu.edu/~scs273/01.mov
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...they actually refer to him as Jesus in the movie, or as Yehoshua ben Joseph? And also, do they show the creation of the Shroud of Turin? Because that would be, well, inaccurate. Can't wait for The Passion of the Christ II: The Wrath of Paul.
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As you said, captivating, and it's all right that it's been online for more than today; it's awesome that it's being posted everywhere. It deserves to be seen and awed at. I can't wait to see it in person, and to see this amazing film when it is released Ash Wednesday. Thanks for the updates - it keeps the countdown going strong.
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"Shit. You crucify me in a dream, you better wake up and apologize!"
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Because if you are actually someones follower (I don't care for that term in that it implies blindly following someone instead of making your own decisions - so lets say that you think that said person was a worthy roll model) then you should behave in a manor that reflects your claim.
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Harry says it's too bad some of Christ's "so-called followers" haven't learned forgiveness. I think he's getting forgiveness and the condoning of sin and perversity confused. Forgiveness DOES NOT mean one decides to accept, TOLERATE, or condone the actions for which a person is forgiven. (Notice I put TOLERATE in capital letters - the words "tolerate" and "tolerance" are thrown around way, way too often, especially by liberals). The Bible states that if you forgive a person, but they continue to sin and behave in a manner contrary to the laws of the Bible (which, contrary to belief, did not change so much between the Old and New Testament - that only applied to certain rituals in worship, like literal sacrifice of animals, the requirement of which ended after the crucifixion).
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You went on a long rant about how Jesus's existence is "undisputed",and talk about "historical scholarship", etc. Yet, you don't provide even ONE source, or even ONE tiny SPECK of evidence that Jesus EVER existed. And I know why you didn't: It's because you CAN'T. There's is not even ONE LITTLE PIECE of evidence that there was a real Jesus Christ. Can you extract even ONE little teeny-tiny shred of of legitimate, proven, factual, credible evidence that Jesus actually really existed? You're not going to be able to do it. If there's no evidence whatsoever that there was a real historical Jesus, there's no logical reason to believe he ever existed. Sorry. Regardless, the film is looking great.
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just a "jesus is the sexiest tomboy beanpole on the planet", which is not quite funny is left. *ahem* i really think it
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Jan 25, 2004 4:53:55 PM CST
"Just because He saves you, doesn't mean He likes you." (NM)
by johnny smith
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