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Dooby dooby doo. Dooby dooby doo. Dooby dooby doo doo doo. Californiaaaaaaaa! Californiaaaaaaaa!
Man, how cool is that Oliver Trask guy? Keeps the evidence in an urn in plain sight! And Marissa wasn’t even smart enough to … OWCH! Hey!!! Okay, so he’s a little … morally ambiguous … OW-OW-OWWWWCH!! A big gigantor creep!! Is what he is!! Enough with the hitting!!!
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Alright, I have tried to reserve my rants against those who rail
against this
show. But I
know the comparison to make now. It's not like 90210, not really.
What this
show is like
is "Freaks and Geeks" and "Undeclared". But it's the version that
won't get
canceled
before the first season is even over. Yeah, it's totally unrealistic,
but
it's the realism that
got my favorite two shows canceled in the first place. So we have
Seth, the
Geek, Ryan
the Freak. And way cooler parents. Let's call this the best
compromise we
can ever
hope for.
What's this episode called?
The Rivals
What's TV Guide say?
Ryan's suspicions about Oliver drive him to a drastic action that
threatens
both his future
at the Harbor School and with Marissa; Seth's too-many common bonds
with Anna
have
him longing for Summer again; Sandy seals the restaurant deal with an
insecure
Jimmy;
and Kristen helps Julie save face with Caleb, only to end up losing in
the
long run.
Drastic Actions?
He "breaks" into the school to see Oliver's files, to the Party Boy
beat...
Harbor? But Oliver goes to Pacific!
Not any more! He's transferred because an "incident."
What about Seth and Anna?
"Am I dating the female me?"
Longing for Summer again?
Well, what TV Guide doesn't tell us is that Summer has a new boyfriend,
Danny.
And
Danny is "funny."
"Funny?"
He's big funny, and TiVo's Leno.
Are Sandy and Jimmy still buying The Lighthouse?
They're going to serve only one flavor of martini, only the best
scotch, and
two of the
best meatloafs.
Kristen and Julie?
Julie becomes psycho designer girl in order to impress Caleb. Kirsten
thinks
that she'll
fail. We'll see what happens...
"Psycho designer?"
"I'm selling a lifestyle! It'll be aspirational!" And no, I'm not
making a
spelling mistake this
time.
So, Oliver is now at Harbor. This must be a perfect opportunity for
Ryan and
him to
make nice...
Right, Ryan breaks into the school, reads his secret file, breaks into
Marissa's locker to
steal a note from Oliver to Marissa, and breaks his New Year's
Resolution. He
might get
kicked out. He loses Marissa's trust.
You referred to an incident, what is it?
Ah, just watch.
Okay, what's good?
Not as much as usual. I didn't find myself laughing out load as much,
or
moved along by
the story. It's setting up for sweeps, and it shows. But, Luke's
loyalty to
Ryan is pretty
good, and reminds me of some of less intelligent Freaks. The best part
of the
show was
Sandy and Kristen's treatment of Ryan when he was caught breaking and
entering:
"You're going to wish we'd kicked you out!" And there Seth yet again
gets the
best line:
"Ryan's just waxing my back."
Then what's not good?
Oliver. A high school with leather couches, pool tables, and smoothie
stores.
Oliver.
The only other two people in detention with Ryan are black and
Hispanic. I'm
not usually
a big stickler for things like this, but come on!
9 p.m. Wednesday. Fox.
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So, why do people hate this show? Is it the best thing on TV, no, hardly. But it is pretty good, are FAR better than 90210 or Dawsons ever where, and they got 10 and 6 seasons respectively.
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Not to be a stickler on it, but since it's California, if you assume the mix of the student population is 1/3 white, 1/3 black, and 1/3 hispanic, then yep, that's the correct detention makeup. If it's a mostly white school (being in the OC), then again it might be the correct detention makeup, because studies have shown higher incidence of behavior issues in schools where minorities are, well, in a small minority of the student body (<10%). Of course, the real question is, were any of the characters in detention female?
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Jan 21, 2004 10:15:08 AM CST
I'm sorry but if you broke into school, went through school file
by big bad clone
These kids wouldn't last a day in the Creek... Oh, and where the fuck are the Asian kids?
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Once again - PLEASE explain to me why this is "superior" to 90210 and Dawson's Creek?! That is just silly. Once again I reiterate - It is based on the premise that 90210 and Dawson's Creek were *bad shows*. They were not. They were both very good shows. They just weren't for a geek demographic so geeks tended to dislike them. They centred around physically attractive kids that remind geeks of the in-crowd that shuns them at their own high schools. Just like this show. So don't tell me Seth is a geek. Brian whoever who hung around with Tory Spelling was the geeky character. Don't tell me Ryan is the James Dean rebel without calling ans asking Luke Perry for permission first. And hell, Dawson was a nerdy art film loving bullshit loving intellectual with looks that are unconventionally good looking at best. These shows ALWAYS have thoughtful nerdy characters. People who think this show is groundbreaking need to go watch some re-runs...
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the jokes are actually funny
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I like having a nasty villain like Oliver around, but I just hated this episode. I can forgive Marissa not figuring things out because he's playing her and she thinks she's helping a friend.
But they made Ryan just look really stupid. I mean, completely brainless and a little bit mental. He may be right about Oliver, but that doesn't excuse the psycho act.
On top of that, too many people have seen too much for Oliver to pull this off UNLESS Ryan keeps his mouth shut. Which would be stupid, but it is what he is doing.
Marissa can testify to the non-showing up girfriend and parents, not to mention the fake drug overdose she thinks was real. Sandy can mention the drug bust. Luke was almost run over in the golf cart along with Ryan. There's too much against Oliver for this too work unless Ryan is stupid and so they made him stupid. Which ruins the character.
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Sorry Shelbygirl and Hercules but despite your attempts to convince people that this is a good show the numbers don't lie. Last week's show got 16 comments! 16! People have stopped caring enough to write about the show and do you know why? Because it's mediocre at best. Something to watch if you have NOTHING else to watch....but with the crap state of TV nowadays..that may be good enough to get more seasons.
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They both had a much more serious and realistic tone to them than the O.C. does, at least in their first couple of seasons they did when they were really good shows. Where the O.C. differentiates itself is in the smartly written adult characters and the humour. I can't really recall any compelling adult characters in either Dawson's Creek or 90210. In those shows, especially Dawson's Creek, it seemed as if the kids were smarter than the grown-ups. In the O.C. it is the kids that are making the mistakes and the adults are there to set them straight (I'm speaking specifically about Sandy and Kirsten) and there is more time devoted to these characters then in either Creek or 90210.
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I don't care if it's a soap opera, a funny soap opera, or a teen angst horror soap opera. It's still getting goddamn annoying to see so many fucking "teenagers" on TV. Don't they belong on the Disney Channel or something? MTV? I would much rather see some shows that aren't all "He-said, she-said" and "woe is me, the boy doesn't love me" crap. Give us something a little more cerebral than high school angst, please.
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It's ok. I feel your pain. high school shows scare me away too. At 30 my high school days seem like yesterday but suddenly I'm shifting demographics. Fortunately there is still arrested development and SUPERHEROES!!! To be a geek is to be forever 12! :-D Can we not start a petition to have Ryan and Seth develop Superpowers?? That would rule! (The funny thing is - it almost would. That Ryan guy could actually pull it off.)
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I mean really. This show does not fit the meaning of the word "cool" by any stretch.
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I actually watched it occasionally. Never really got too much into the Creek though, despite Katie's hotness. Maybe because Michelle Williams scared me with her pigface. I've really gotten sucked into the O.C. though, mainly because they've avoided a lot of the stereotypical turns in every ep (Like the New Year's episode, you know most Tv shows would have had Ryan get there just in time to see Marissa and Oliver kiss), but this current episode sounds like the most stereotypical one so far. hopefully it won't play out like an after school special. And talk about turning characters dumb? They sure Luke from BMOC to big dumb Dork fast.
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I love this smarmy little prick. Actually OC is slightly better than 90210 beacause there was always someone annoying asshole to hate on that show. No such character exists yet on the OC. Taylor Handley makes a good slimeball and I wish they would keep him.
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Oliver is turning out to be a real creep, at least ryan was right on about him.
and yes, this is better then dawsons, and 90210, dont kid yourselves.
Hopefully they dont drag out this Oliver thing past next week, i hate that type of thing, and hopefully within a couple weeks, after ryan and marissa work out their trust, they can get back together.
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just why the fuck did they have to go and ruin any suspense with that sneak preview of the next new episode? i was actually hoping oliver would torment ryan for a while, but from the looks of that preview, they're gonna shoot the oliver wad within a couple episodes. whatever happened to extending plotlines for more than three episodes?
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Maybe he will use that gun on himself and end this already.
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Guess no more zit creme commercials for Mischa. I thought Oliver would get at least three or so more episodes before everyone had to apologize to Ryan for doubting him. And that Danny guy was just retarded! He was an idiot even before Seth suggested he go bigger. I mean, if say early on in the season Seth says to a bathroom bound Summer, "hey, don't fal in.", She would have looked at him like he was the biggest dork on the planet. Cliche'd as it was, complete with Marissa's "how could you" look, it was fun seeing Ryan pound the crap out of Oliver.
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It's funny. Ever since they introduced that character, I was like "villain". Mainly because of the name "oliver trask", a little too close to the "bolivar trask"
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The whole Oliver things is not good for this show. This show has been smarter than this. Why have a psycho guy on(shades of Emily from 90210) and have everyone fail to see what he is doing except Ryan???
Why did they have to make Anna so overly dependant on Seth.When she was introduced she was smart and sassy and now shes clingey.
Like the relationships going on with the adults.
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Good writing. A show that cares about the charcters and has a sense of humor. It pokes un at itself and the dialogue is clever.
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I was really wanting for Ryan to crack Oliver's skull open with the pool cue.
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I hope ryan likes pacific, if they allow him to stay at that private school after that beating, regardless of what happens with nutso boy, it will be the first mis-step by the writers.Shit, kids get kicked out of public schools for less nowadays.
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I like the O.C. Very much. It is moving into my number 3 television show spot behind "24" and "The Shield". But I wonder how long they can keep these characters interesting and what they plan to do next. I think Luke's crossing over to the light side of the force was a little sloppy and rushed. I really hope they change their minds about dumping Anna. And I can see it coming 1000 miles away...if Summer ever does get her claws into Seth, she's gonna dump him the first chance she gets for whatever hunk of the week makes an appearance. Marissa is cute, but she is annoying. What is even more annoying is the fact that she is doing to Ryan exactly what she did to Luke...she's just that type. Even after the craziness with Oliver has subsided, I still think that the trust issues will get in the way of them getting back together. Oh! Oh! What would be a cool twist is if it turned out that Luke was the mastermind behind it all...the puppetmaster orcastrating the breaking up and the fall of Ryan from behind the scenes. That would be so Lex Luthor. (the comic Lex, not the Smallville Lex...and a little of the Gene Hackman Lex, too.) It that's the case, then it is a must for Ryan to get up in that ass like colon cancer!
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Enough said.
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