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FilmForce Has The Scoop On KING CONAN And Clarifies About Stephen Frears and Elvis!!

Hi, everyone. "Moriarty" here with some Rumblings From The Lab...

Neither of these bits are earthshattering, but they help clarify ongoing stories, and they highlight the good work done by our friends at IGN FilmForce.

First up, check this:

IGN FilmForce Exclusive: The Wachowskis Leave Conan

What's next for the barbarian's big-screen return?

January 20, 2004 - IGN FilmForce has learned from trusted sources that Larry and Andy Wachowski have ankled King Conan: Crown of Iron, the third movie featuring Robert E. Howard's barbarian hero. The Wachowski brothers were to have produced King Conan with John Milius onboard to write and direct it. Obviously, star Arnold Schwarzenegger is unavailable for the next few years now that he is governor of California.

Sources advised IGN FilmForce that the Wachowskis - who had reportedly clashed with Milius over the tone and direction of the film - left King Conan of their own volition. The project had remained stalled in Development hell while the Wachowskis completed their Matrix trilogy.

The future of King Conan is now up in the air. Whether Warner Brothers will continue to develop it or if they will allow their option to lapse instead remains to be seen. No word yet on who might replace the Wachowskis as producer should Warners choose to stick with Conan.

What is certain is that Milius remains committed to the pic. He is said to be happy with the two different drafts of the screenplay that he penned during the Wachowskis' tenure.

The filmmaker is also said to be unconcerned about Schwarzenegger's availability. For Milius, the key to the project is said to have always been the character of Conan and not the actor portraying him.

Look to IGN FilmForce for more news on King Conan as it happens!

Stax also sent us this, in response to the piece we ran on Stephen Frears and a possible Elvis movie:

Hey, Harry. Stax from IGN FilmForce here. That Elvis project that Frears has been developing since Dec. 2002 isn't a biopic but a comedy called The Importance of Being Elvis. Variety said back then that it's about a man who assumes Elvis Presley's identity while the singer-actor is serving in the U.S. Army during the late 1950s. Elvis loses his golden singing voice after being shot in the throat. An impersonator named Brian is then tapped by Elvis' shady manager, Col. Tom Parker, and the U.S. government to take over for The King.

Here's a story we did on it over a year ago

Thanks, Stax, and I’ll certainly be checking into KING CONAN myself.

"Moriarty" out.

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  • Jan. 21, 2004, 7:19 a.m. CST

    Why not just do it without Ahnuld?

    by Bcphil

    I think holding onto the belief that Ahnuld is the only way to do this is insane. I think Michael Douglas would be an awesome King Conan

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Michael Douglas?

    by DocPazuzu

    That's a terrible idea. Get Vladimir Kulich.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 7:42 a.m. CST

    The Wachowskis wanted to have Conan

    by Nozoki

    wearing more makeup and getting a sex change operation.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 7:59 a.m. CST


    by cockknocker

    If Milius goes ahead without Arnold, then fuck him. Arnold IS conan, whats the point of doing a follow up film about an aged conan without Arnold. Start again with a young conan if you want to recast the role. Fuckin hollywood.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 8:35 a.m. CST

    two words

    by purplemonkeydw

    Frank Stallone...wait no...Sylvester

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Fuck Those Matrix Boys.


    They screwed up thrir own movies bad enough.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 10:34 a.m. CST

    The Wachowskis wanted King Conan in black leather and sunglasses

    by Sith Witch

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 10:57 a.m. CST

    The Rock will play Conan, you'll see.

    by numberface

    I'm as sure of that as the hand on my face!

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Milius BETTER have the BALLS to WAIT for Schwarzenegger!!!

    by ABking

    Arnie might have become governor instead of doing the 3rd CONAN movie when everything was lining up, but Milius can still wait for the one and ONLY Conan to finish up as governor and then make KING CONAN. Plain and simple...if KING CONAN is made without Arnie, it WILL suck and there will be a HUGE back lash afterwards. Mark my words!!! Milius, if you read this...WAIT FOR ARNOLD!!!!

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 2:35 p.m. CST

    At this point in time its for the better its put on hold

    by Manaqua

    This would be the perfect comeback vehicle for Arnie. It would be full circle. It put him on the map once and it could mark the return. The Rock would make a horrible Conan IMHO. Yes, waiting for Arnie is the only smart move. He IS Conan. M

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Hulk Hogan as Conan!

    by Creflo A. Dollar

    Screw ahnold, go with the Hulkster. You took my father's sword, Brother!

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 3:09 p.m. CST

    ok, I couldn't resist

    by Creflo A. Dollar

    "Can we go over there, where the others cannot see us, brother?"

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Arnold should be involved

    by Thing-Fish

    I'm somewhat disappointed that the Matrix boys aren't involved any more. They were, after all, just going to be producers, not script writers (I assume that to be the case, anyway). They would have brought a bunch of expertise regarding CGI to the project. But Arnold Schwarzenegger SHOULD be involved. I'd rather wait for this project three or four more years or however long it takes that to see it without Schwarzenegger in it.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Arnold isn't the most important element Milius has to secure.

    by Cash Bailey

    Basil Poledouris is. As long as he does the score I don't particularly care who plays Conan. But it would be nice to see Gerry Lopez, Mako and Sandahl Bergman.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 3:48 p.m. CST


    by Antiriad

    No King Conan without Arnie! Cmon Milius - you aint going anywhere, wait for Arnie to take a gap in his political life and complete your vision with the man himself. We all know Arnie will stick look great on screen - even in 10 years time especially as a older Conan. Its the ONLY role Arnie fans want him to do - then he can do whatever he likes!

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 4:56 p.m. CST

    Wait for Arnold? Are you serious?

    by Jon E Cin

    Sure he was great as Conan...but there has to be someone fresh out there that can do it. How old is Conan in this movie anyways?

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Milius needs to make this now -even without Arnold. We need a sw

    by Bill Maher

    Conan is for REAL men (or those who want to BE real men), Lord of the Pasty English Homos is for big fat fags who want their poo stabbed by real men. Conan had badass swordfights, LOTR had sobbing midgets. Conan had naked chicks, LOTR had three bitches who could have been hot if they weren't dressed like the fat chicks who serve alcohol-free beer at Medieval Times or an Enya video. Conan was a great fighter, but the thing that makes him a great character is the fact he loves the pussy! Only James Bond does better. While Aragorn (which is elfish for "in the closet") gives Liv Tyler (owner of some of the best DSLs this side of Scarlett Johanson or Angelina Jolie) a little Queer Eye for the Hobbit Guy peck, Conan would have... FUCKED HER! And Galadriel and the blonde with the perfect ass, too. Conan had real villains: Two musclehead thugs (Rexor and Forgrimm) who made Ahnuld look like Adrien Brody, and Thulsa Doom -a cross between Osama and Jim Jones who shoots people with live snakes, chops hot chicks' heads of while their six-year-old sons watch, and turns his victims into soup. What do the bad guys in LOTR do? They scare a hobbit's dog real bad. OOOOOOH! These three guys are a lot scarier than all the English-toothed orcs, trolls, ghosts, and other pussy bad guys in LOTR. Not only could Conan kick the shit out the whole fellowship, Conan kicks all of LOTR's ass. Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe, fanboys!

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Gotta love a post that complains that LotR doesn't have enough t

    by minderbinder

    Yep, that's the problem with it.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Forget the WWE or WWF or whatever it is ...

    by riskebiz

    If they indeed go to make King Conan, they should go into the bodybuilding world again to find their Conan. I don't think there's a single wrestler that could work as Conan. They all look like inbred bouncers from hicksville. They should find a Conan with some real muscle tone. Who is the current Mr. Olympia? Or Mr. Universe?

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Must be- 3 for 3

    by Darth Thoth

    In order for King Conan to work it must have 3 elements: John Milius, Basil Poledouris, and Arnold. Each brings an irreplaceable component. Our image of the motion picture Conan is the product of these 3 men. Missing one of those elements would not cut it. King Conan w/out Arnold would be like Rocky w/out Stallone. Or like Gladiator w/out Russell Crowe. Ridley Scott and Hans Zimmer would make sure the movie was good but without Crowe, it wouldn't be Gladiator. I could be wrong but as a die hard Conan fan, these are just my thoughts.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 7:25 p.m. CST

    It's not because LOTPEF doesn't have enough tits, it's because L

    by Bill Maher

    What is this world coming to when a silly kids' movie like Attack of the Clones shows Natalie Portman's erect nipples, but a PG-13 movie like LOTPEF can't even show cleavage or a good look at Miranda Otto's porcelain ass? Titanic was PG-13 and had Kate Winslet naked. Face it, real men prefer Conan. Big fat fags prefer LOTR. Flame away nerds, you know I'm right.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Case and Point

    by Darth Thoth

    Conan The Destroyer. No Milius, no REAL Conan movie. And I like CTD, but it was no CTB. You must have all three elements for King Conan to succeed.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 7:39 p.m. CST

    If this movie's gonna get made it will have to without Ahnuld, s

    by Bill Maher

    I think the people who mention Michael Douglas are mistaken. Maybe back in the 1950's, a young KIRK Douglas would have made a great Conan, but his son looks like a lizard. Catherine Zeta-Jones would make a perfect Belit, though. The real stars of Conan are not the actors anyway. If they're good (James Earl Jones as Thulsa Doom makes Christopher Lee's Saruman look like Mr. Rogers), it's a bonus. The stars are Basil Poledouris' score and John Milius. Gore Vidal's friend, The Wise Hack had Milius in mind in the early 1970s when he said that "These hotshots in movies today with their violence, each one is a fat sissy with asthma who likes guns." Milius is an old-school nerd who overcompensates by making macho man tough-guy movies, rather than Peter Jackson, who revels in his geldedness.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 8:29 p.m. CST

    My apologies

    by Thing-Fish

    Darth Toth, You're absolutely right: Poledouris was an essential ingedrient to the success of Conan the Barbarian. That score was fantasic.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Tired of this shit

    by TomVee

    A third Conan movie will do no business, no matter who directs or stars. The Rock might make a good Conan, but there is no audience left for a third Conan movie. hell, there was no audience for the second.

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Noone in Hollywood looks like Conan

    by Nazzim O'Bazzim

    Conan should be a mountain of a man with a hard-bitten face. His eyes should have animal power and intelligence. And nothing about him should suggest a contemporary man, they should probably get someone who's FOREIGN with a strange UNPLACABLE ACCENT. This could be the strangest world-wide casting call ever. Send the Hollywood scouts to cockfights in Uttar Pradesh, mountain traplines in the Urals, seedy waterfront dives in nameless villages by the Caspian Sea. Maybe they could go to these towns and ask around for the man who runs things, who scares the locals, who wins all the cage matches. Then they should look at him, but not hire him, because on a movie set he'd be hell to work with, but they should remember his face, and then go off and look at models in muscle mags and Mr Universe contestants and despair...

  • Jan. 21, 2004, 11:59 p.m. CST

    Thanks Nassim, more for us to contemplate on the Tree of Woe.

    by Bill Maher

    I've got to get my Conan DVD back from my girlfriend. That movie rocks like few others.

  • Jan. 22, 2004, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Conan - Adult Fantasy, LOTR - Family Fantasy

    by Antiriad

    I enjoy both. But I liked Conan The Barbarian precicely because there werent any limitations for family audiences. It was an adult film for an adult audience. Conan The Destroyer however, clearly had a family audience in mind, judging by its content. Hence why it is such a disappointment by comparison. And as Darth Thoth says, you cannot make a Conan movie without John, Basil and Arnold. And this son of Conan thing, why indeed all the fancy explanations? Mako quite clearly says in the narration that Conan "was bred to the highest stock" so the Rock could conceivably portray his offspring via this.

  • Jan. 22, 2004, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Sorry boys,

    by Conan_the_Humble

    but Welcome to the Jungle was as close as we'll ever see Arnie and the Rock in the same movie, and Dick, can't believe I'm saying this but you're right. Conan does rule... Cheers.

  • Jan. 22, 2004, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Dick Hertz is a genius

    by Drunken Rage

    Damn fucking brilliant piece of critical analysis, Dick! Right on the money!

  • Jan. 22, 2004, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Yeah, you're right DICK...

    by Pontsing Barset

    ... a right moron and a right pain in the ass that is...

  • Jan. 22, 2004, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Perfect Casting for the Young Conan

    by WoodyStiffer

    To get the perfect casting for Conan, you don't want to go to the bodybuilding world. You want to cast among the competitors from the World's Strongest Man competition. The current champ would make a perfect Conan: Mariusz Pudzianowski - he's like 6'2", 290, bigger than Arnold EVER was - and he's got the right, hard-faced look. Check out his site at:

  • Jan. 22, 2004, 7:45 p.m. CST

    dick hertz

    by Bourne GreyElf

    sounds like all you want in a movie is porn, why don't you just go rent some and wack off till your "dick hertz" you fucking retard. by girlfriend you mean your blowup doll right? get a life you fucking maggot infested piece of shit. oh, and conan the barbarian rocked the fucking house. a new one would benefit greatly from Arnold, but it can be done. anythings gotta be better than matrix revolutions.

  • Jan. 22, 2004, 10:37 p.m. CST

    LastGayElf is another disgruntled dungeonmaster who knows Conan

    by Bill Maher

    Inflatable doll? If you want to talk about your momma that way... I prefer to keep out of family business. You could use a few pointers from her on how to swallow so you won't be embarassed when someone tells you in public "Hey Pointy-Ears, wipe that cum off your mouth!". Oh, and for the record, having pointy ears doesn't make you an elf. Your ears are pointed from your summer camp counselors pulling on them during the blowjobs, peckerbreath.

  • Jan. 22, 2004, 11:31 p.m. CST

    replacement arnold

    by bazookaboy

    A couple of years back I was watching a world's strongest man contest and they had a contestant on there that looked like he could whip the shit out of anyone alive. This guy was fuckin HUGE, unfortunately he got into a car accident and now doesnt compete anymore but he could still make a perfect conan (he's from austria too!). Here is a link with some pics:

  • Jan. 23, 2004, 10:38 a.m. CST

    DIE, Dick Hertz - and put us out of your misery....

    by Pontsing Barset

    ... you misanthropic, shit-for-brains, nuckle-dragging, neolithic, drooling, mysoginistic, deluded, ass-wipe, douche bag, retarded, shit skid, jagoff, sorry excuse for a human being... I could go on, but you get the point non?

  • Jan. 23, 2004, 10:29 p.m. CST


    by Bourne GreyElf

    when I want you to fucking speak, I'll pull the duel lightsaber shaped dildo outta your ass and mouth, now shut the fuck up and rotate alittle longer, then I'll figure out what to do with your punk ass when i'm done with DICKSINMYASSHERTZ. bring the noise you little fucking 40yr virgin. elf ears? you sound more like a disgruntled "dungeon master" than me you cock sucking sperm cum gurgling man ass craving little donkey fuck. if you like arnold so much why don't you go re inflate that blow up doll of yours and imagine your butt plunging the austrian beef cake. oh wait, is your daddy busy ramming that sweet tight little ass bloody? is daddy cockulating your little bitch ass? bring some more noise you little punk, your daddy will be the least of your worries when I get there, so open wide bitch, here I fucking cum!

  • Jan. 24, 2004, 12:03 a.m. CST


    by WoodyStiffer

    Dude, that's sad. Pull Arnold's dick out of your mouth. Arnold, in the offseason was 6'2" 250lbs, in contest shape he was 6'2" 230. Mariusz is 6'2" 290lbs, and almost as lean as Arnold was in contest shape. Again, do the math. I'm not attacking Arnold, whose dick you obviously long to suck, I'm pointing out the obvious. Arnold was big for the 70's, but bodybuilders, strongmen, powerlifters, etc. today are ALL bigger than Arnold was in his heyday.

  • Jan. 24, 2004, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Solo Desperately Wants To Polish Arnold's Pole

    by WoodyStiffer

    Jeez Solo, that was an incredible lesson on musculature. Granted, muscle density, etc. can account for some difference in size, but 60 pounds cannot be accounted for by muscle density, thickness, etc. It's just too much of a leap and that's why I said do the math retard. Arnold was big for a bodybuilder competing in the SEVENTIES. But for anyone competing in strength sports NOW, his size back then wasn't very impressive. Keep this in mind, a decent photographer can make someone look much bigger than they really were - case in point Arnold. First, you need to pull your head out of your ass, then Watch Pumping Iron versus any video of some of the bigger strength athletes of today, and even you would notice the difference idiot. Stand Arnold at his best next to Mariusz or any other WSM competitor, and Arnold would look small. Arnold would have a difficult time even winning a state level bodybuilding competition nowadays. That's how far it's gone since his heyday. It's strange that some people idolize Arnold in such an extreme way that they look past the obvious. Solo, please don't post incendiary shit about things you have no clue about. Now run back home to mama bitch.

  • Jan. 26, 2004, 6:52 p.m. CST


    by WoodyStiffer

    That's all ya got Solo? No more body composition lessons? That's all you have to say after getting your ass handed to you on a plate?