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Hey folks Harry here... HOLY SHIT - COOL TRAILER even if I hate Windows Media... It will be showing up in Quicktime soon... I'll have that link for ya on this page sometime soon! Let's hope this is an honest version of the tone of the film. And that they are not hiding goofy shit. Here ya go... Van Helsing time...
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Don't screw this up Sommers.
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Hugh Jackman will single-handedly make this worth watching.
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Jan 16, 2004 4:20:36 AM CST
The trailer is neat but it could easily be hiding a dark secret.
by industrykiller
If I remember correctly the Mummy trailers didn't make the film look like the silly mess that it actually was. I can see definite potential for that to be the case here. Sorry if I'm cynical but Stephen Sommers is just not to be trusted.
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That trailer is cheese, and that accent is bad! And I'm English!
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Other than my misspelling, I should sue them for copyright on a short film I designed two/three years ago called The Monster Chronicles. That Dracula is WA-A-AY too close to my original design... and besides, I wouldn't be suprised if my old director was the writer of the damn thing! Still, nothing's original these days...
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The girl is going to be lame I bet...Wolfman looks awesome through! Whats that big thing throwing Van off the tower? Looks bad.
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Man, that looks bad. There's a funk coming off that trailer...sort of what i smelled when i saw the preview for the Mummy... could be fun, and it just might be saved by Hugh Jackman...but really...the odds are low.
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beh,, from all the promotional images and art and whatever else i had gotten impressions from, i thought this was going to be a darker movie. then i saw this trailer and i'm like, "fuck, shit, this is just a remake of The Mummy with some other shit in it", and lo and behold it's even the same director. wtf. i was right..
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I don't know, maybe it's an old old story that i'm unaware of. But there's an anime called Hellsing, and it seems to be quite similar to this, from what i know. except the anime has Hellsing hunting vampires mostly.. he even wears almost the exact same outfit, but different color.. any relation?
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Jan 16, 2004 4:57:30 AM CST
hmm...werewolves...vampires...other assorted creatures...cheesy
by anomaly
Yep. This is almost a carbon copy of the Underworld,Hellboy and LXG trailers.
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Looks great to me i would agree with the anime influences but who could complain about that (i know quite alot of people will but hey stay at home and count peas).one question if any one is reading this that knows, who is the big bastard throwing him off a hill.
Lets have Hellboy vs Van Helsing.
Begun the media war has.
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Jan 16, 2004 5:01:28 AM CST
This movie's money in the bank no matter what, so deal with it..
by commando cody
For crying out loud, it stars Hugh Jackman who will pack into the theater his own legion of Wolverine fans, Kate Beckinsdale who looks hot, 3 vampire chicks who look hot, and 3 core Univeral monsters redone with modern technology. So that'll bring in the movie monster buffs, the kiddies, and most likely overall action film fans. It has a prime early summer opening date ala MUMMY RETURNS -- in other words, it'll open just as summer is approaching and people are dying for a fun popcorn movie to get out of the fucking house and relax a bit. Opening weekend will be big, and IF it's actually a solid movie it could easily crest $200 million domestically. So double that for foreign and you're probably looking at $400 million easily from the theatrical run. Movie cost 160 to make, doing the old math of "you have to make twice your cost to break even" (to cover prints, marketing, etc) and at $320 million Universal still pockets an $80-100 million profit of this baby. Not to mention the money from monster licensing and toys which you KNOW will be there. Then comes DVD, the icing on the cake. Goes on sale for a standard 19.99 price (or for 15 or so at Best Buy, wherever) and they move 10-15 million units and Universal's looking at another $200 million profit. So quit griping about it so much. It's just a movie. Oh yeah, and that trailer, while short, looks fucking kick ass. MUMMY and MUMMY RETURNS weren't brain busters, but they were fun popcorn flicks and I certainly got my 8 bucks worth for getting out of the house for a day. I'm willing to bet -- gasp -- since it's made by the same fucking guy, this will be just like both of those, and most likely will be a pretty damn fun way to start the summer. If nothing else, I bet Jackman alone makes this worth it.
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tis Mr.Hyde
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Jan 16, 2004 5:13:24 AM CST
THE ACCENT ISN'T FUCKING ENGLISH IT'S DUTCH CUZ VAN THE MAN IS D
by jimmyrabbit
He sounds just like Tony Hopkins Van Helsing in Coppola's Dracula
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Thats great cheers for the info.
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Why, oh why to studios insist on using this shitty, blocky, stuttering even at small size pile of cock cream? I'm waiting on the quicktime release.
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does ANYONE ever post non-streamed trailers? i'm so fucking sick of this shit...it never works for my computer. what are they gonna lose if we can download it? grrr
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Yeah, it does. But I still think it could be a good popcorn flik. I'll probably see it.
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LXG + Underworld + Vampire Hunter D + Stephen Sommers = CRAP!
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I will go see this with great reservations. I thought that the first Mummy trailer was bad ass but the end product was just ass. The sequel was worse so I won't be surpriced if this would be the ass fest of the year.
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i hate media player!!!!
i get audio but no video?
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I think we all just want to see Wolverine succeed as an actor. It looks like he may not.
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... but I have to say it again.
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...even in Windows Media. It's a Sommers movie, he cannot hold back the cheese, even if Brendan Fraser isn't in it. It's not "Underworld" meets "LXG," it's "Monster Squad" set in "Bram Stoker's Dracula," with Stephen Sommers's tone. Which basically = waste of time and money. I had hope for this movie, and now I have none.
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this site mentions several software, some of them free, for downloading streaming video to your hard disk:
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I know the feeling AtomicHyperbole. The design on van Helsing himself looks like a rip off from a sci fi-western I produced 2 years ago... But I dont think the black dressed man in coat and hat is that original...
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Seriously, Ivan Isaacs will kick Van Helsing's ass.
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Jan 16, 2004 8:25:16 AM CST
It is apparently "cool" to be negative in the Talk Back section
by fart_master_flex
There could be a preview showing Pam Anderson eating out Angelina Jolie and there would still be some geeks out there saying "looks like shit". Just my two cents.....fuckwads.
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Jan 16, 2004 8:40:18 AM CST
Dracula, Wolfman and Frankensien in the same picture??? I dont c
by tallscott
Ok the trailer did have some cheese dripping off of it. But who can resist the big 3 in the same picture? I dug it..
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but, none-the-less, this movie will blow chunks -- mark my words...
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Memebers of Phoenix Torrent can get the Bit Torrent file under Misc.
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I'm sure we will soon be knee deep in the "been there, done that" and "CGI sucks ass" posts from "I've seen way too many movies" jaded talkbackers, so I'll just get in early to say this looks like a fun movie. Besides, any opportunity to watch Kate Beckinsale walk and talk while kicking a little ass should be savored. I would personally like to see a darker film, but dark doesn't sell tickets to the masses (see: Underworld - a much better film than most people give it credit for despite its flaws, aka Kraven). They like their heros to be bulletproof AND drop one liners. I like the stars, I'm looking forward to seeing some updated Universal monsters and I dig the comic book imagery look, so I'll be there opening weekend with $8.50 in hand. I'm not looking to be blown away by Van Helsing, just entertained.
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because it's there
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Jan 16, 2004 9:19:20 AM CST
This should give Finding Nemo & Tripletts of Bellville some seri
by nice marmot
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but i'll reserver total judgement until i actually see the thing.
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I guess the stereotypes are true, in most cases. The fanboy stereotypes. I came to the post looking to see if anyone had anymore info on this movie. It looks like it could be a lot of fun. But there's just too much whiny fanboy crap to wade through. Constantly bitching and moaning about how things are so derivative, and how this or that has already been done before. Here's an idea: EVERYTHING'S been done before. Many of the posters here are probably the same asshats who harped on and on about the effects in the Hulk trailer. Yeah, those trailer effects weren't finished yet, either. I have a feeling the effects for Van Helsing will service the movie just fine. At worst it'll be popcorn fluff... a little escape for a few hours. Is that so bad? That's the base goal of a movie, anyhow. Geez, stupid angry fanboys. I guess I'm a stupid angry fanboy; I'm just ranting about something else. Sorry for the rant. -d
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Wooohoo. May 7th cant get here soon enough. The CGI-freaks pissing. Weta is #1? Is that based on their sub-par work on ROTK?
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Doesn't look as bad as LXG...looks kinda fun like Hellboy.
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CGI sucks, we hate everything, blah blah blah. Fanboys, gotta hate um. Campy popcorn flicks are ok, cause they are fun and you guys hate them. Whats even better, if they are really that bad, they are even better cause then you can get drunk and laugh at them. Captain Nemo's beard was worth the entire budget of LXG to see. So, as long as its not as bad as Battlefield earth, that was so bad I found it physically painful, its all good.
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Jan 16, 2004 5:36:27 PM CST
This looks like a sequil to Will Smith's "Wild Wild West"
by jethrobodine
...and we all know what a great that film was. :::yawn/puke:::
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Jan 16, 2004 5:37:11 PM CST
This looks like a sequil to Will Smith's "Wild Wild West"
by jethrobodine
...and we all know what a great that film was. :::yawn/puke:::
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Jan 16, 2004 5:37:47 PM CST
This looks like a sequil to Will Smith's "Wild Wild West"
by jethrobodine
...and we all know what a great film that was. :::yawn/puke:::
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Anyone with a direct link to the QuickTime trailer? Haters and naysayers are pathetic, braying feebs.
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I hope no one takes all of these nay-sayers seriously. I'll tell you all right now that this film, judging by what little I saw on the trailer, looks really awesome! I think it could turn into a franchise that rivals Lord of the Rings, and Hugh Jackman will be even cooler than he is in X2. Can't wait for this movie to come out, yo.
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As a huge fan of the Universal monsters of the '30's and '40's, I can't wait for this movie. Since most of those movies starring Lon Chaney Jr. and Glenn Strange had cheese dripping from them, I will have a hard time being dissapointed by this movie. It looks fun, and that's all I ask. You elitist pricks want high art, look elsewhere. After all, what were you expecting... "My Left Foot"?
As far as the CGI goes... it's the stop motion animation of our day. Take a look at the original King Kong or any of Harryhausen's films, are you telling me that stuff looked 100 percent real? Come on. Don't get me wrong, I love the old art form and King Kong and 7th Voyage of Sinbad are two of my all-time favorite films, but it's a damn movie... it's pretty damn difficult to come up with stop motion or CGI that looks non-fake. Jurassic Park and the Gollum aside, CGI can only do so much. -
Jan 16, 2004 9:26:00 PM CST
Attention: those who feel that it's cool to be too good for this
by stan the bat
Bad news- there are NO CHICKS watching your pimply ass surf the internet, so your schtick is unlikely to impress anyone. You know perfectly well you're gonna cough up your eight bucks for this and many worse movies without remorse, dignity, or shame. Sweet land of MERCY, people, loosen up and have a little fucking FUN- okay?! Now: to business. What the hell was that big guy supposed to be who threw Hugh off a building towards the end of the trailer? That weren't no Dracula, no Frankenstein, nor no Wolfman as far as I could tell.
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It's like I tell my son. There are two kinds of people in this world. Those that know that The Monster is the name given to Dr. Frankenstein's creation. And those lame-ass idiots who mistakenly call the monster Frankenstein.
I guess we know which camp the producer's of this movie fall into, don't we?
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Geezus, my worse fear of this movie is confirmed. Too much CGI. I think only Frankenstein's Monster came out of it ok, except is that him on top of the tower, looking like a CGI-Hyde from LXG? Dear god.... everything else looks cool though. Aw, f*ck it....
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Jan 16, 2004 10:02:45 PM CST
Now THERE'S A Videogame If I Ever Saw One! OR... May I Suggest I
by jollydwarf
..."Van Halen"? No need to cling to the pretense of avoiding cheesiness, and Eddie can use his bag o' tricks and sidekicks Alex and Michael to defeat Diamond Dave, Sammy of Cabo Wabo, and Ga(r)y Cherone. Hey, harmonic tremolo dive bombs are GREAT finishing moves! Anything to force the guy to grow his hair out again and wear his "No Bozos" t-shirt! Oh, and the actual trailer did NOTHING for me.
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Man, shut the fuck up. Some 'o you pissy little AV Club dorks sound like Comic Book Guy meets Nick Burns, Your Company's Computer Guy. Howzat grab ya by yer chick peas, ya punkass Internet Nazis? Every recent talkback I've checked out has some Poindexter who's mommy told him he was clever making snarky, and ultimately asinine, observations. "I haven't read a comic in over a decade, and I don't know what a Hellboy is, but this movie's gonna blow! Look at me! I'm a dildo." Howzabout, "That bastard Luca$$ better not make any Star Wars sequels. He's already raped my childhood enough!! God, I'm shorter'n Danzig." Or, when originality fails, "Dis moovee looks like LXG meets Underworld... I couldn't get laid if someone left it to me in a will..." Whoo! Guess I'd be a bit glum too if I was a chronic masturbator with anal leakage who likes to sit on a Pringle's can. You people are nauseating. Don't spew that crap that it's just you exercising your right to express your opinion, and in your infinite wisdom you can separate the treasure from the rubbish. Guess the rest of us unwashed rabble who would rather just enjoy the promo and wait to see what the quality of the film is are just stupid. We're big kids here. Grow some hair on yours, and own up to the fact that you would rather getcha a little thrill trashing a movie no one has seen yet, and valiantly try to seem smugly superior. Just admit it: Go to the mirror and repeat after me, my friend- "I am a jerk." And this site has officially become the Mecca of the Whining Bitch.
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Fanboys are pitiful. This thing rocks purely for what it is -- all out fun that, like the Mummy films, will take itself just seriously enough and no more. As far as I'm concerned, Sommers and company can start on Van Helsing 2 tomorrow.
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I think the trailer looks neat. I'll likely see the movie.
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Hey, call us whatever you want, but this movie looks DISAPPOINTING. All this people saying, "Oh, this'll be a fun popcorn flick just like The Mummy Returns with that darn-fangled CGI wrestler The Rock!", do the fanboys a favor: go and rent/buy the DVD of "Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust". Now imagine a live-action version of that with the added bonus of the Wolfman and Frankenstein's Monster as villains. Imagine how freaking cool that would be compared to a light-hearted, one-liner laden popcorn flick from the director of Deep Rising!!! You know, just because a movie comes out during the summer doesn't mean it has to appeal to the masses who wander into the theatre and decide that, oh, hey, here's a flick with that Wolverine guy fighting Dracula! Sounds cool! If Universal would have gotten someone who understood what kind of tone this movie should have, and knew how to direct more-than-competent action, we could've had a real winner of a film. Alas, we're going to have another forgettable Sommers flick. Enjoyable? Probably. But not very memorable when compared to what it could have been. As for me, I'm digging out THE MONSTER SQUAD.
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Not the new stuff, but the 1970s 'we don't need no steeenkin FDA' version, which would produce bright, beautiful blue turds at the end of the day. With those magnificent cerulean creations, one could use the toilet and Tidy-Bowl it at the same time. Ah, the memories..
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...or at least that's what he said at the ComicCon last summer. He also said he's NOT signed for X-Men 3. Anyway, they showed a reel from Van Helsing at the same CC panel, and it looked great, especially the parts with Richard Roxburgh as Dracula. And Beckinsale is definitely not as lame as she was in Underworld. Another interesting thing: the director denied being influenced by Vampire Hunter D, but everyone knew he was lying. We'll see.
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Jan 17, 2004 12:50:10 AM CST
RE: What the fuck is the thing that throws Jackman off the roof
by iamlegolas
I think it's the Stan clone from SOUTH PARK : "Me bad?"
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Van Helsing vs. The Creature from the Black Lagoon! Box Office Gold! I've noticed that many of you out there on the talkboards are wondering what that thing is that throws Hugh Jackman. If you haven't read the other posts it is Mr. Hyde. I, like many fanboys while watching the trailer for the first twenty times,noticed that Mr. Hyde throws Van Helsing from the Notre Dame Cathedral. Hmmmmmmm, that's funny, I don't recall Robert Louis Stevenson or his now famous characters of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde being French. That's not my place as a movie nerd to nitpick, I'll leave that to the book nerds to gripe about. There's probably a good reason, because Paris has some spooky sewers and catacombs after all. Yeah, that's the ticket! I also hope they explain how the Wolfman and the vampires, assuming this movie is sticking to popular lore, are able to fight and move about in the DAY. I'm suprised the more hardcore of you Underworld and Blade fans missed that. They'll probably pull a "Curse of Darkness" or "Francis Ford Coppola did it in his movie" excuse on us. So, despite a noble effort on this trailer's part(namely the first part of the trailer before we see anything CGI), I'm still more convinced to see Spiderman 2 before this.
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That was WICKED AWESOME! May 7th. Only four and a half months away....Must...see...now!
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Looks stupid, but it will probably end up being everybody's guilty pleasure
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"Feel the power of Christ! Bitch." That's fucking hysterical. I can picture Sommers dreaming this stuff up at his Dell, thinking he's a genius. I think all of Hugh's lines in this flick should be paraphrases of Jesus' words in Scripture. "Forgive them, father - for they know not that they're GOING TO DIE."
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we have a serious problem on our hands.
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This movie looks awesome. I mean really of the hook! I dont fucking care if that monster on the building looks CGI. hell I know those monsters are not real anyway. what I want is just one hell of a ride. and I will get that. if you want a plotdriven movie go watch somekind of drama or war movie. but this movie is for the people that wants to get a top 10 of a wow factor. also I am happy the movie is not to dark. because I want to see all those bad ass monsters flying around and van hellsing fighting them bad ass style. this movie is gonna rock. I cant wait to see it.
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...Sell 1,000 shares!
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Looks like some pussywhipped version of what Van Helsing should be. Stupified and dumbed down for kids so that it can be made into a cartoon by the genius Director of the Mummy. Seriously, take a hint you washed up has been and go back to film school.
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....The movie is not dark enough or gory enough.-It bears to much resemblance to the pussywhipped Mummy and all the other generic looking Hollywood movies. We want to see bucketloads of Blood, gore and suspense. After all these are the three scariest fucking monsters from Halloween. Lets see a sepia tone or Blue filter over everything. Scare the fuck out of us, don't show us some gunslinger with a crossbow in leather Xmen style. Hugh Jackman is good, no lets see the film look as dark as the website, you twits
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One thing, though: how can a normal guy like Jackman kill one creature that would easily defeat a whole batallion of men? That`s the Buffy era for you, when horror films/entertainment stoped making sens. Plus we`re talking about that guy alone killing thousand of monsters? No Way. At least if he had a team(swat-like with super-weaponry), it would make better sens. But screw that, it looks incredible, especially that werewolf! SCARY MONSTERS! Can you believe that, kids?!!! It hasn`t happened since Fright Night. I just wish Kate wouldn`t be in that film too. Been there, done that.
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Jesus Christ, Guys - lighten up a little. This shows approximately... what...200 seconds of what will probably be a 100-140 minute movie. I don't mean to sound old, but aren't all you people complaining about 'the tone of the movie', the lack of gore, violence and horror, the plagerism of V.H.D. and the CGI creatures jumping the gun a tad? I'm as picky as the next person when it comes to film - I teach the bloody subject at Uni for Pete's sake, but I reckon this looks like what it's meant to be - fun. I don't know, but I think I'll wait until I've seen the movie before I weigh too heavily into my opinion of it.
Just on a side note, while I was dismayed at the use of the name FRANKENSTEIN as apposed to THE MONSTER or THE CREATION, I'm not going to let it stop me seeing the film. Perhaps the creators of the trailer realised not every one is up on their Shelly. -
Someone said earlier "I think we all just want to see Wolverine succeed as an actor. It looks like he may not."
I know it may come as a bit of a shock, but there is a world outside of the States where people do things as well. Hugh Jackman is already a respected and highly successful actor in his home country - Australia. Just check out imdb for his filmography. (Quite a few good thespians come from Down Under). Unless, of course, you were LITERALLY talking about the character Wolverine breaking out of his X-Men duties and making it the film biz...? If that's the case, I think you need help. -
...for Making Somone's Morning Coffee Spew From His/Her Nose goes to DevilsOwn for this TB's best line: "Guess I'd be a bit glum too if I was a chronic masturbator with anal leakage who likes to sit on a Pringle's can." Thanks, man. That made my whole day.
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I belive it's a partially transformed Wolfman. If you look earlier in the trailer you'll see a man kneeling on the floor in agony with the same sideburns and hair. That Is definetely the sdame character weather that character is the wolfman or not i can't be sure. It seems plausable tho.
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Hunchback of Notre-Dame.
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damn she looked fine! The new trailer wasn't bad either.
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That trailer was cool, except for any part where Jackman opened his mouth. His lines were fucking awful. Still, I'm looking forward to this movie. Stephen Sommers is a hack? Maybe. But he's a hack that makes cool, fun movies. Loved "The Mummy," loved LOVED "The Mummy returns," + will definitely be seeing this when it comes out. Babble babble, bitch bitch, it's a popcorn flick to look forward to. Stop bitching, for the love of AEISHA please stop bitching. Bitchers... Out.
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I think it's hi-fricken'-larious when a hero comes home from a hard days work making the world safe from terrorists and viruses, to further his crusade for peace and justice he goes to the Temple of the Whining Bitch website and tries to step to poor schmoe who was making a point about the excesses of dorkdom and whining. From reading Guns and Ammo, I ascertained that, to protect their loved ones, they hide behind names that sound like butter... Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to wrap shooting on Ocean's Twelve.
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I realize the futility of getting angry and name-calling. I pray for peace, and I have no excuse, other than it's exasperating that so many people would expend so much time, emotional energy, and creativity vituperating virtually every project that comes along. For what it counts, I am not one of those people who suffers smarmy attitudes well. I swear, the lot of these weasels sound like they're sitting around in a dorm lounge doing their damndest t'be Craig Kilborn. Come the fuck on! It is impossible at this point to make a picture about a hero who kills vampires without drawing comparisons to Blade, Buffy and Vampire Hunter D. So why even waste time doing it? Oh, and another sure indicator of what sort we're dealing with here is when they start making comparisons to video games! Perhaps expectations are just a tad unrealistic when you are shown a kinetic, fx-filled trailer, and bawl about being DISAPPOINTED. Damn, dude. Would it help if I said, on behalf of the filmmakers, "sorry"...? I know it's an affront to the Masterpiece Theatre crowd, but some films are just made for their possible appeal as escapist entertainment. By the by, you might not want to make such a point of citing a director's less than spectacular previous efforts. Number one, that's not cool. Somebody liked it, and they might be object to you suggesting they're retards for liking it. Number two (yah, you know what that is), how would YOU like it if folks started referring to you as that person who let the counselors pull a train on them at camp (uh-huh, thought no one knew about that)? And yes, before you go accusing me of trying to champion the masses, I've always known that the public's taste is somewhat... questionable. And never was that point driven home with more force than when Mambo # 5 became a hit song. But the detail some 'o you hammerheads who come to this site seem to be missing is- it's also "the People" (a surprising majority of whom have NEVER heard of AICN, sorry Harry, it's okay) who make or break these movies, and the opinions of a few embittered losers like us don't amount to a fart in a hurricane. Look, this film is what is. In this age when the term "blockbuster" has next to no meaning, I find it utterly ridiculous when one fanboy (is that good or bad? I can't remember...) calls another fanboy a loser because they don't spend half their lives in a theater and don't expect every movie to be a life-changing experience.
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Hey, any movie that has Hugh ripping his shirt off for ANY reason... I am so there. The man is a total wet dream. (Are you with me ladies and, of course, gentlemen?) Now if only they could get a film version of "The Boy From Oz"...
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Yes finely the trailer had arrived. It looks Great. Even for a fucked up Peter Cushing freak like me.
Hugh Jackmans accent isnt that dutch sounding (being dutch I should know).
(and NO, Dutch isnt German). Oh the big thing on the Notre Dame is Mr Hyde.
He gets wasted in the first part of the movie. Cool that the vatican is in the movie, maybe the pope kickes some vampire ass to :-). Layyy
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I get it now. Fanboys hate this because there's now spewing blood and guts, no darker than pitch tone, etc. etc. So it's "Indiana Jones meets the Monsters." It appears most are just pissed that this is an adventure film with monsters rather than a gutbucket horror film with endless kung-fu chaos and samurai sword slashing and driving stakes into bare breasts. Sorry guys, this just ain't your movie. Move on.
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In the Bram Stoker novel, Abraham van Helsing was from Amsterdam. But whenever he muttered something to himself it was in German. SO, in an attempt to cause general annoyance by creating a really boring post, here are some hypotheses explaining this apparent contradiction. EITHER he was a Dutchman who for some reason really liked to mutter to himself in German. OR he was a German living in the Netherlands (despite the fact that "van" is Dutch not German - perhaps his ancestors were Dutch, originally) ... OR Bram Stoker really didn't know the difference between Dutch and German. "Dracula" is a vastly overrated book, anyway. Oh, and this trailer looks like shit. _____ Finally, to annoy you even further, here are SOME WORDS WRITTEN IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS.
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I think Dallebach is the closest in his assessment. It is not the Hunchback of Notre Dame, but I believe it is Dr. Frankenstein's assistant Igor who is also a hunchback.
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Let me throw my hat in with those who are pissed that Frankenstein has become shorthand for Frankenstein's monster. Either the producers are ignorant themselves, which isn't really so bad, or they've read the book over the course of their lavish high school and college educations and seen the movies over the course of their careers in Hollywood and they're content to ride the wave and dumb down America, which I suspect is the case, and which makes me insane with anger to no end. Now imagine telling someone gorged on these pop culture crapfests that Frankenstein is merely the name of the creator: "What? But the movie said....!" Grrrr. Assholes.
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I hear that the writer may have given the characters names. Hmmm. Stop looking at me!
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Was okay. Really atmospheric-looking, well-designed. Jackman's a charismatic bastard as always. I don't think that enough has been divulged about this to determine whether or not it sucks yet, at least depending on what you're looking for. We'll see; I'll probably be there May 7.
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Jan 17, 2004 3:49:55 PM CST
Naysayers, just die. You have no taste and no clue. That trailer
by big dumb ape
The movie looks GREAT. Large scale, great production design, it has a real "feel" to it and what could top Hugh fucking Jackman kicking classic monster ass 3 times over? Sorry, naysayers, this one has guilty pleasure summer popcorn blockbuster written all over it. So get a clue and quit thinking it needs to be dense as Russian literature or gory as some old style slasher movie to be solid. Me, I'm there opening day. That shot of the Wolfman leaping at Jackman through the flames is what summer movies are all about. May can't get here soon enough!
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...in wanting something to be good, and it actually being good. Just because someone makes a movie that everyone wants to be made (Hulk) doesn't make it awesome. The trailer should be selling you on the best parts to make you want to see the movie. I fell it's going to be a let down, but I will drop my 8 bones anyway. Worst case scenario, it will be 2 hours that I can't get back. I easily waste that here.
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After slowing down the Quicktime version of the trailer, I tend to believe those who say that thing that tosses Van Helsing off the roof is Mr. Hyde. Although my knowledge of 19th century London isn't that good, the view from the roof seems to look down on a very large metropolitan city... too big for Transylvania. Also, did you notice that Hyde (if that's who it is) has his left arm hacked off? That lends promise to the hope that this film splashes a little gore around. Hypothetical question: If that thing is Hyde, why is he so damn big, just like the Hyde in LXG? I didn't read Stevenson's original, but I thought he was just an ugly version of Jekyl, not a 12 foot behemoth. One other question... in the beginning of the trailer there is a close up of a bandaged face... you can only see the eyes. My guess is that it's the Frankenstein monster, but could it be a mummy? By the way, we're going on 73 years since Karloff first graced the screen as the monster, and nobody has yet to come close to a more satisfying looking creation.
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Hyde was actually smaller in frame and stature than Jekyll, but over the course of the story, he grew stronger (not bigger, I don't think, just stronger). Writers looking for a grotesque behemoth usually run wild with the possible interpretations of such implications. For my money, no, he would not become a 12-foot monster, but you'll never be able to argue against it.
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I think it'll be ironic if this film comes out and is truly the forgetable popcorn flick that everyone seems to want it to be - because no one will be talking about it after May. And what could have been a kick ass, blood drenched thriller a la Vampire Hinter D will be swept aside as the goofy, CGI and one-liner laden sucessor to LXG that it looks to be. Once again, I raise up MONSTER SQUAD.
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Jan 17, 2004 5:09:13 PM CST
Richard Roxburgh's cred among Vamp Crazy Goth Girls (Myself incl
by lady_hyde
Hell yes, I am seeing this on opening day. And I think the Masquerade has a "Fearless Vampyr Killers" vibe to it...
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... this movie may very well suck, but I don't know how you could get that from watching the trailer. Everything in the trailer screams fun. Great looking Wolfman, grotesque vampire babes and a ton of action. Movies like this are meant to be tongue in cheek. Sure, there may be a few scares tossed in to make the girls jump (sexist comment tossed in purely for effect), but this movie isn't meant to be frightening... it's meant to be closer in tone to Jason and the Argonauts or Indiana Jones with a goth edge. Where LXG and especially Wild Wild West failed is that they pretended to be something they weren't... I don't think Van Helsing is quite so pretentious. By the way, "Ribbon", thanks for the info on Hyde.
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this is pretty nice, but it's got nothing on the new DRACULA movie which was made by all 16 year olds. It's playing at the Santa Barbara Film Festival in a few days. Find it at WWW.CRANEFILMS.COM
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Jan 17, 2004 6:10:49 PM CST
Here's a sneak peek at "Van Helsing": "Goodbye, my love, I'm off
by user id indeed!
"What? But there are are, like, five monsters in this movie." "I know but this fat guy came up to me, crying, and said that he'd stab himself if I didn't refer to Frankenstein's monster as 'The Monster.' Or 'Frankenstein's Monster'. I tried to explain to him that 'Frankenstein's Monster' is just about the most awkward single phrase in the English language, especially when you're trying to sell something, and that calling something 'the Monster' in a movie full of monsters is stupid, and he just cried even harder, and started stamping his feet. It was pretty pathetic." "Well, surely he was only a little kid, Van Helsing..." "You ever see a little kid five feet tall, 300 lbs, with gray facial hair? Now THAT'S a fucking monster."
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Jan 17, 2004 6:50:09 PM CST
Not overwhelmed by the trailer, but I liked Sommers' The Mummy s
by felatiohornblowr
It's one of those trailers that just throws a bunch of special effects at you but doesn't really say anything. Still, this looks better than either Hellboy or Spider-Man Part Two.
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Hey Ribbons and BRU! Long time, no feedback. Great to hear from ye. As several have pointed out already, the movie looks to be big fun. Some scenes actually surpassed my expectations. This is more of a Dark Fantasy/ Adventure movie with elements of horror. At the very least we can hope it'll be good for shits and giggles, a ripping good genre hybrid actioneer. Miserable naysayers find it easy to shit all over this because they've seen it all, and I dunno, Hugh stirs in them the love that dares not speak it's name. Damn, maybe if you whine hard enough, somebody'll get a clue and stop making period movies with anachronisms in 'em, and stop ruining your lives!!! Lord, I curse the day they made LXG, because it gave these pathetic souls enough ammo to last 'em well past the decade. Yeah, I'd love for it to be "good", hell, nowadays I think we deserve great! However, I'm a realist, and I never expect any film to be the next genre classic. That way when it sells like sex, and is dope to critics, it's a pleasant surprise. As a fan of horror, I'm painfully aware that we have precious little to choose from these days. Most films promise a lot, but compared to the classics of years past, are very flawed and lacking when it comes to delivering the goods. Law of averages says someone will get it right someday. Although the way we view movies has forever been changed, I would love to see the return of the type of film John Carpenter, David Cronenberg, and Geore Romero made in their halcyon days. It really does pay to be mindful of what you're going into, and I don't blame anyone for being leery.*** Aw, c'mon Mack. Don't be that way! High school was far more traumatic than this. Ya don't see anybody getting melvins or swirlies here. Way to endear yourself to us by calling people who disagree with you "stupid jocks". What kinda thinking was that? 'Sides, I was never a jock, I was a hooligan (think that gray No Man's Land between Brain and Punk), and we picked on everybody! Relax. No one is forcing you to give up your essential right to bitch incessantly. Thanks for the wakeup call, Ayn Rand. You've got issues, dude.
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Wow, Devil'sOwn. You've changed my opinion of AICN's talk-back. It's nice to read someone's thoughts that are well expressed and justified without needing to wade through bad spelling, sloppy grammar, tired cliches and infantile insults. Thanks.
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That trailer for the student film version of "Dracula" is actually quite funny. It looks like they did a straight up remake of the novel. I like the fake British accents too. But, anyway, back to Van Helsing. I include myself w/ the other fanboys that are hesitant of this little picture. I don't see much reason to believe this'll be anything but disappointing. From the writer of Gunmen (a Christopher Lambert/Mario Van Peebles early 90's actioner), the writer/director of Deep Rising...The only thing this really has going for it is that Hugh is a much more capable action star than Brendan Fraser ever will be. And it looks like Universal spent a ton of cash for flawless production values. But CGI monsters and epic set pieces don't make for a great story.
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...Lighten up, Francis. Dude, it's ONLY a movie. It's ONLY a talkback. It's a far cry from high school filled with jocks and geeks and whatever cliques you want to make an analogy to. For the most part these talkbacks are simply fellow-world geeks having good natured fun ribbing each other over which way we all held our thumbs about movie (up or down). But nobody has to write a doctoral thesis on "why" they liked the trailer to justify liking it. I don't need to overanalyze VAN HELSING -- in fact, that would be pointless and a waste of time. Why do I like the trailer? Because it shows Hugh fucking Jackman looking great and kicking monster ass, it's got Kate Beckingsdale and the 3 vampire chicks looking hot, and as a long time classic Universal Monster fan it makes me smile to see 3 of them in one major movie that was made with A-level production standards. Sorry, but the reason "why" some of us love the trailer or are predisposed to give VAN HELSING a chance is simple: a lot of us here simply LIKE fun summer popcorn flicks to get out of the house for a bit. That's all VAN HELSING is trying to be, and odds are based on Sommers previous films that's what he's going to deliver. Though I'll say from the trailer and the shots it does show, I'm willing to bet VH is more ambitious in scope and design and execution than anything Sommers has done before. Personally, everything I've seen or read about this movie convinces me it'll kick ass and I'll feel like a grinning kid watching it. And thus my 8 bucks will be well spent. Bring May 7th. This is one of the movies I've been most looking forward to seeing this year.
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Only joking. But it still looks pretty good, I hope it goes for some genuine 'horror' elements. Kate Beckinsale looking nice. It's good to be a moviegoer.
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I don't know how familiar you are with the talkbacks, but it would be criminal if I neglected to mention there are some people who come here that make me sound like a monosyllibic Neanderthal. BRU, it's damn good to hear from you! I've kinda been in a RotK hangover for the past month, and I mean that in a good way to my Tailender peeps who may be standing on the borders out there in AICN-land. I too have my misgivings about the coming year that offers us Hellboy, Spider-Man 2, and Van Helsing, to name a few. I couldn't tell you what films are going to give us that fix we crave. There does seem to be an abudance of CGI eye-candy that we have to deal with. The Ape got it right. These are after all just movies, which a lot of times translates as a filmed business deal. If what you've seen thus far doesn't appeal to you, that's fine. I respect that. You are entitled to your opinion. And I don't wanna think where we'd be without dissenting ideas. But damn if some of our fellow fans don't get a little red-eyed and sanctimonious about it. Yes, these are some things we've seen before, some of which worked, some that didn't, but what else do you want? I keep asking the same question time and again, with no sufficient answer, what elevates you above the rest of us who may have enjoyed the piece of film in question? Do you not realize it makes you sound like a know-it-all jackass when you waste time coming up with witty analogies? I guess I will never understand the drive to denuciate something I never liked all that much to begin with! Time is better spent, I believe, on talking about things you like, with people you like. I guess your raison d'etre is to give the rest of us more healthy-minded people something to talk about.
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At least he's gotten better, huh?
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Jan 18, 2004 7:06:56 PM CST
Are people out of your fucking minds, this unoriginal bullshit l
by kaws
You know this to be true.
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... but no. At this point in time that hasn't been proven in a court of law. Thanks for sharing your original view that this unoriginal bullshit looks like Underworld all over again. And no. I know no such thing. Jury's still out on that, too. Haven't seen th' movie yet, champ.
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Man, I don't know about you but upon 2nd viewing of this I know longer thought, "This is just like Castlevania". Instead I thought, "Damn it, why didn't they make a Castlevania movie?" Oh well, I'll just go to a hypnosis center so that everytime I hear "Van Helsing" I'll think "xxxx Belmont" or "Alucard Tepes". @_@
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Jan 19, 2004 7:14:57 PM CST
"Literature and folklore influence movies, which influence video
by devil'sown
...And there ya go.
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