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ABC Yanks KAREN SISCO!!
Well, at least we won’t have to tape “South Park” now!
The Associated Press reported Saturday that the best new show on television, “Karen Sisco,” has been yanked from the ABC schedule.
The network now intends to hold the six unaired episodes of the show’s 13-episode order until March.
“We love this show, but it has become increasingly obvious that it's not working on Wednesday nights," ABC Entertainment President Susan Lyne told the AP Friday. "Rather than give up, we're going to complete production on the remaining episodes and aggressively relaunch the series this March in a new time period."
"Sisco" had been getting soundly clobbered by NBC warhorse “Law & Order,” which has proven durable enough to push CBS’s “Brotherhood of Poland, N.H.” off the schedule as well.

The network now intends to hold the six unaired episodes of the show’s 13-episode order until March.
“We love this show, but it has become increasingly obvious that it's not working on Wednesday nights," ABC Entertainment President Susan Lyne told the AP Friday. "Rather than give up, we're going to complete production on the remaining episodes and aggressively relaunch the series this March in a new time period."
"Sisco" had been getting soundly clobbered by NBC warhorse “Law & Order,” which has proven durable enough to push CBS’s “Brotherhood of Poland, N.H.” off the schedule as well.

"Sisco" had been getting soundly clobbered by NBC warhorse “Law & Order,” which has proven durable enough to push CBS’s “Brotherhood of Poland, N.H.” off the schedule as well.


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But this sucks!!!
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I finally see something watchable on TV, and then they do this. Oh well...
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I wish they don't change anything when it airs next year. J.Lo has nothing on Carla.
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that the TV networks are run by crack addicted chimps. What did they expect, putting it after the Bachelor and up against Law & Order? Dammit!
I'll be there when they show it's last few episodes in March, but I doubt it can recover from this. Oh well, it might make a nice DVD set some day.
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Nov 15, 2003 9:25:51 PM CST
Too many "Girls Kick Ass" shows, guys are getting sick of it.
by sexybeast
Regardless of what the media wants people to think, men still make up the majority of TV viewers. And while the "Girls Kick Ass" revolution was popular, it has reached a saturation point and gotten old. Just look at the numbers for sporting events on TV lately. Guys have gone back to the old stand bys because tv shows have become boring.
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Of course, it's one of the few shows I enjoyed........everything I watch ABC yanks. Remember The Job with Denis Leary? That's why ABC stands for Already Been Cancelled! Maybe we'll end up with more of this reality TV crap.......don't we watch TV to ESCAPE reality?
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At least ABC is willing to relaunch and push the series in March, Let's hope they put it into a better slot.
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alright bring on LA Karen Sisco
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as easy a target ABC and Disney are, this is clearly the viewers' fault. It was a gutsy move to schedule against LAW AND ORDER, and it simply didn't work. So... fuck the viewers... (consequently, I really, really wanted to see this, but I never got a chance, seeing as I don't own a TV and my friend is a big SOUTH PARK fan).
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Smallville is the only show to debut in the last three-four years that I started watching from the start that's still on. I'm starting to wonder why I even bother....
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why don't they put karen sisco on right before monday night football? i've been arguing for a while now that abc should put either karen sisco or alias on just before mnf. both shows have quite a bit of appeal to both sexes and i often find myself channel surfing for the hour or so before mnf.
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see my comments on the last Sisco thread, ABC does not comprehend what a good TV Show is or what to do with it when they accidentally get one. The trend of ABC killing shows that were great before their prime goes back at least to "Twin Peaks" of 12 years ago. I'm down to one ABC show left (Alias).
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USA Network will be showing the remaining finished episodes. Check their website for details and times.
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The Incredible Hulk of prime-time television.
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was to see Carla Gugino's luscious lips and gigantic tits on screen. Man, what a waste. When the hell is she going to do some more adult roles, I'm sick of having to go to the Spy Kids movies to get a fix of her glory.
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FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK The ABC network.
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ABC - listen up. Karen Sisco is a fantastic show with a phenomenal cast. The show is smart, sexy and funny. Give it a new day and time - fine. But do give it a chance. It deserves it.
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It was in the same timeslot as Law and Order, what are these programming execs smoking? I haven't seen a timeslot mistake this stupid since Fox put Family Guy up against Friends.
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Gugino and Garner! I mean, no one with half a brain watches 10-8, and Karen Sisco could lure feminists away from American Dreams, and no show can follow Simpsons no Sundays. So why not put Karen Sisco on at eight/seven whatever on Sundays?
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I watched the first episode, Blah! Boring,"Girls kick ass!" dribble. Carla Cugino, and Robert Forrester should stick to film, it's what they're good at.
The only thing I watch on ABC now is Alias, and that is even starting to go downhill. Everything is either idiotic one hour dramas, fucking sitcoms, or reality shows. I think I'll stick to HBO thanks. -
The minute the first episode ended I feared for its life as a series. ABC and FOX in my opinion make the worst scheduling decisions for good shows. Hell, I was surprised that Alias made it to year two. I still believe that to be a great show, but the only ABC show I watch. Lets hope it gets a better time slot in the Spring.
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1. Firefly ... 2. Boomtown ... 3. Karen Sisco ... I'm sure there's more, but I've repressed those memories. Anyone got a list? I'm sure I'm missing a whole bunch of great shows the nets cancelled before their time.
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If Cheers premiered today, it would be cancelled before it got popular, and NBC would be out millions and millions of dollars. Shows need time to find their audiences, and current Network decision making prohibits shows that do not immediately get stellar ratings. This is very bad business thinking, in my opinion. Karen Sisco is a high quality show that needs time to find its audience. It took Cheers a few seasons to take hold, and that is usually the case with most series. Netwroks need to reconsider this half-baked strategy of pulling shows that do not immediately hit.
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Someone made the excellent point up above that maybe the trend of cheapily produced reality TV hit shows made the nets more chary of spending "big" money on unproven shows; all they'll lavish money on are big stars and hit shows. The result is that actors in really successful shows get bribed out the yin-yang, networks keep shovelling money onto fewer and fewer hits, and fledgling shows with a creative edge get tossed out more easily. I wasn't a TV watcher before the 1990s, but I have to hope that television is only getting better, that strong creative voices are starting to be able to make themselves heard. If so, the recent trend toward networks putting their eggs in relatively fewer baskets is dismaying. If talent is increasing, so should their opportunities for success.
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Wonderland, Sport's Night, Gideon's Crossing, My So Called Life, Thirysomething, Cupid, The Job, Once and Again, Miracles. But look on the bright side, now they have more room to fill their schedule with umpteenth variation on Full House and their umpteenth and a half variation of The Bachelor.
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I really do. *puts on flame-proof suit*
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whats ironic is that Law and Order wasnt a big hit at first but it was given time to find an audiance. Why cant todays shows get the same slack? I still miss Undeclared
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OK, think back: how many people, when Herc raved about this show back in September (and rightly so), said that it would be so good that ABC would have absolutely NO CLUE what to do with it and cancel it before its time? The list above hits the mark pretty damn well; if a show isn't a formulaic hit or in a proven genre (law, medicine, cops, family sitcom), these idiots have no idea how to promote it. Karen Sisco had quality performances, good writing, and Carla Cugino, who is so hot it's scary. However, the fact that it assumed that its audience had a brain was a little too much for the schmucks at ABC who don't.
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It's about a HOT BABE WITH A GUN! That used to appeal to the lowest common denominator of young male viewers just fine. I've noticed a backlash against "girls kicking ass" on the net lately, though only on fanboy sites. But I don't know where some people get the idea that the media has been lying about the importance of the young male demographic. That's all they've talked about this season in the news--too many shows like Joan of Arcadia appealing to girls and women and not the highly sought after males 18-45 demo. But I don't understand how this show gets lumped into that complaint. They used to say shows about strong women like Murphy Brown and Roseanne appealed to men. Seriously! Then there was Xena. Then Buffy. Then Alias. How is this show suddenly girly? Like I said, the backlash theory could be more accurate, and it's a pity because this show wasn't like the others. It's not a Charlie's Angels or Buffy/Alias fantasy. She's not Wonder Woman, she gets hurt. The only time I noticed a highly unlikely moment of Karen fighting someone she shouldn't have been able to beat was that big foreign-speaking guy (don't remember what his ethnicity was) who wanted his wife to get him his knife. However it did show her getting slugged pretty good in a men's room and losing her fugitive because of it this past week. Now maybe there's a new rising wave of anti-feminism(or anything perceived to be feminisim) born from too many "tough chick" shows. But dammit, this was a good show, it should NOT be the sacrificial lamb. If ABC doesn't bring it back without retooling it then this season of television is utterly worthless.
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Nov 17, 2003 10:40:46 AM CST
That is bad news but it's worse when you hear that One Tree Hill
by big bad clone
Really two of the worst shows you could possibly watch. I rather watch the "Fabulous Life of People you want to throttle with your bare hands" and What not to Wear" and "Behind the Music: Clay Aikens" than that horseshit......... The kids on One Tree Hill would'nt last a day in the Creek.
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Is Life with Jim still safe?!?!?!?!!! Oh, thank god. Yet another briliant decision from the people who cancled The Job but kept Dharma and Greg on for 5 years.
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You're kidding right? On the west coast MNF starts at 6:00 p.m. Sisco at 5:00 p.m.? Not exactly a ratings booster. Damn those time zones...
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Not that I have a show, but if Harry gets to make movies, I figure my turn is coming up soon. Hey, Herc, keep your kiss of death off my show!!
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so....does that mean when they say relaunch to they mean they'll relaunch it on a different time zone in March and if it does good they'll pick it up for next season? or what...because if thats not their intention whats the point in bringing it back in the first place, i'm SO pissed that its being pulled but seriously whats the point if their not gonna move it to a different time...and stuff...
plus its not really a 10pm show....i mean look at NYPD Blue the only fictional show on ABC on at 10 besdies Karen Sisco, that is deffinatly a 10pm show for a 10pm audience Karen Sisco shouldnt be on at 10...more like 9 (but not on wednesdays to much competition with West Wing) -
I need to hear how great Rachel Drack's tits are for the 17,000th time. Oh, well....
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it wont last long now a days.
I am scared to watch Quality shows these days for that very reason.
Whats next, Arrested development?
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Nov 19, 2003 12:22:05 PM CST
re: Too many "Girls Kick Ass" shows, guys are getting sick of it
by vectormatrix
If you had said there are too many actions shows on TV, that's one thing. But it seems you only take issue with seeing strong female characters simply because they're not men. --
It seems there is always someone complaining 'oh look there's another show with old people, black people, fat people, gay people and etc.
We are living in a time when it is no longer bold or unusual for television to recognize the diversity of the world we live in. But it seems as if there are many people still living in the past; balking at the very idea of a television protagonist that isn't a 'generic young white male.' -
not enough Elmore Leonard style characters--stick freaky deakey glitz . . .
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A show with class and style gets the axe while dozens of lame retreads and knock-offs carry on. Never underestimate the lack of taste in American viewers.
Maybe HBO will pick it up. After "Karen" gets cut, I'll be down to sports, "24", and "The Simpsons". That is what I watch on the regular networks. I personally can't wait until the networks get their ass bitten off when they realize that syndicating reality shows is not a viable option.
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