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TROY trailer in Glorious Quicktime!
Hey folks, Harry here with the TROY trailer in beautiful Quicktime. It's a nice teaser. In no way does it convince you that Orlando Bloom's Paris is a ninny, that Eric Bana's Hector will be cool as hell. Also you don't really understand how phenomonally awesome Brad Pitt will be in this film. Yup, you don't really get a sense of any of that. You do get an idea that the film is epic, huge and really expensive. That's fine for a teaser. Ultimately - it will come down to those three characters though. Bana's Hector and Pitt's Achilles... They should be amazing in this film. Then we'll get to wait and see what Wolfgang Petersen does next. This will be huge.
Since all of you saw MATRIX REVOLUTIONS this weekend, you probably don't need to click here!
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Brad's looking pretty badass. It seems from IMDB that they have a good cast. And fuck first posters.
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Nov 09, 2003 3:56:04 AM CST
Yes, I did see this w/ revolutions, and 30 seconds brad pitt's g
by johnnybluejeans
by the way, FIRST!
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Nice try, cock.
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I love the story, but he is going to fuck it up. I betcha.
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Is it just me or does the narrator in the intro starts like the fellowship teaser trailer,(the one that starts with the shot of the anduin river)anyways this should be good, is good to know epic films are still being made, although i think that at this pace we're gonna run out of epic stories, i hope not.
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...and no Colin Farrell in a skirt. Sold.
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This will no doubt be one of next summer's best films. Anyone who says this will suck is a cynical asshole. Wolfgang Peterson is an incredible director and the cast is amazing. Also, the teaser poster is cool too. I can't wait for this one.
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Nov 09, 2003 4:44:22 AM CST
All I need to see are the words 'A Wolfgang Petersen Film'
by cash bailey
Love that guy.
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That shot of all the boats is sweet.
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Is it just me, or is the first shot of the teaser, when the camera slides over the ocean, the exact same shot they used for the first master an commander teaser? And the boats lookes CGI. Looking forward to it though...
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The biggest fag on the planet!
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Nov 09, 2003 7:44:09 AM CST
re: "And the boats lookes CGI." - OH NO! They actually built 1.0
by lord_soth
Honestly, what did you expect, dude?
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Okay, the reason there aren't 200 or 500 ships in that scene is because Helen's face launched 1,000 ships. Not 200-500 depending on makeup use and acne at the time. One thousand. Period.
Secondly, here is the URL with a decent picture of the fine looking young woman who is to play Helen, Diane Kruger.
http://www.online-shrine.com/kruger/
Whether you would, in fact, launch 1000 ships for that face, is your opinion. I'm thinking at least 734, but make her a redhead and the ship-launch-ometer climbs to well over 1108. Who would you have as Helen and where on the ship-launch-ometer would she (or for some of you he) land? -
You know, I can remember when films actually tried to retain some sense of historic value. Can't you remember them? I mean, when they shot Glory, they actually got African-Americans to play the soldiers of the 54th Massachusetts (I believe that was the regiment number, but I don't remember exactly). They didn't just grab a collection of white, hispanic, and asian guys, group em all together and say, "Okay, you'll all be playing the first black regiment used by the Union in the Civil War." They actually got a bunch of black guys to play *gasp* black guys!
So, when they decided to make this movie, don't you think they could have gotten at least a few GREEKS to act in it? Or at least people who look like they're Greek?!
But Christ....BRAD PITT?! Greeks don't have blond hair! Nor do they have such fair skin! Come on...at least dye his hair black and darken the skin tone a few shades. But don't just throw him in there because he's a "big name." It's crap like this that's caused me to boycott alot of movies, and I'll be doing the same for this pile of shit. -
Sorry, Of course they looked CGI! DUH! My first post! Guess I was a little nervous, my "debut in society" and all...What I meant was, they looked like "SHITTY" CGI. I'm sick of CGI looking fake. Am I the only one here? C'mon...
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but I think that the phrase "the faced that launched a thousand ships" is not from The Iliad itself. It is used in Christopher Marlowe's "Doctor Faustus" but, I dont think it is in Homer.
In terms of the shot, I think it is importat to reinforce just how big and epic this war was. I think it is hard for modern viewers to conceive of a war this big in 800 B.C. so shots like the one in the trailer help ram it home.
Also, I don't see how any shot that shows a large number of ships or plane sailing or flying across the water can escape being accused of "ripping off Pearl Harbor." Inevitably, any shot showing a large number of vehicles will look something like the shots of the Japanese planes and ships in the steaming pile of crap that was Pearl Harbor, which in turn looked liked a much slicker and CGI version of the exact same thing in "Tora Tora Tora". These are essentially stock shots, so I don't see that Peterson deserves to be slammed for doing what every other film maker does. Whether or not this movie will be any good remains to be seen. -
Alexander the Great did supposedly have blond hair, and although Macedonian and Greek are not exactly the same thing, they are pretty close.
Incidentally, the black extras used in Glory were mostly street people that the film rounded up for the film.
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In quicktime at www.shrek2.com It looked pretty funny
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That was a pretty good trailer and the chick that plays Helen looks infuckingcredible. She is some model of course...That one scene in the preview of her lowering her top almost made me fall over...omigod.... Is this movie rated R? I pray so.
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The ships looked awesome and real enough to me. I'll take cool CGI over "real" CGI anyday. You CGI whiners are always complaining that it doesn't look real...I'll agree with you about the Burly Brawl Neo, but in most cases you are being totally unrealistic and full of shit.
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IMHO Brad Pitt is a good choice. And they hired a bunch of tall bulgarian musclemen. Because they were cheap. :)
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The Hellenistic ideal of beauty was nordic.
The Greek orator Dio of Prusa noted that the Greek ideal of beauty was a Nordic one. The Greeks, he said, admired the blond Achilles (they called him "Pyrrha", because in Greece reddish-blond hair is called "pyrrhon" which means flame colored.), but thought that the barbarian Trojan Hector, was black-haired.
In his "Argonautica," the Greek poet Apollonius Rhodius, describes the hero Jason, and all fifty of the Argonauts, as blond-haired.
The poet Bacchylides said that the women of Sparta were blonde, and Dicaearchus said much the same thing about the women of Thebes.
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Counsellor TROY always kicked ass. Great that she's got her own movie now. I'm so excited .... :) Hm... they misspelled the title ... should be 'Troi', right?
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I didn't think the boats themslves looked fake, but the way they were laid out EXACTLY THE SAME DISTANCE FROM EACH OTHER, IN A PRECISE GEOMETRIC PATTERN looked EXTREMELY FAKE!
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Good god, that shot looked ridiculous. Maybe there were that many ships but did they all go at the same fucking time. And I agree, the ships are in precise spacing and whatnot.
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do I smell an lotr directing style ripoff? the armor looks cheap and fake in this movie, and yes, how the hell are all the boats lined up so god damned perfectly?
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"... that leads him to attack the gates of Troy under Agamemnon's banner
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Ok, I can understand that the filmakers want to make the armor historically accurate, but I think thats a HUGE mistake. historically accurate armor looks fucking gay, especially roman armor, with soldiers wearing metal skirts and sandals, not exactly something you want to be fighting in, with legs exposed and all. Take Gladiator for example, while the armor wasn't accurate, if FUCKING LOOKED AWESOME. That movie and lotr have some of the BEST armor designs I have ever seen in a movie, because their fantasy-based. I think Troy should have gone the same route with the armor designs, cuz as it stands it looks ugly. further more, why the hell is this movie being made? we have all seen like a million tv movies based on this, so what can this movie possibly add to the story besides cgi, more ugly armor, and big name actors?
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Nov 09, 2003 12:20:56 PM CST
If Achilles isn't a virtually indestructible demi-god, then the
by uncle sam
The whole point of the Illiad was to illustrate how life can be an epic tragedy even for a superman who was raised in the lap of luxury. No gods? No arrows and swords shattering themselves as they strike his perfectly immaculate skin? Not even a single centaur? What a fuckin' waste.
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the "if" in my last post before "LOOKED FUCKING AWESOME" is supposed to be an "it"
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Nov 09, 2003 1:10:50 PM CST
With a gladius in your mouth you only speak in vowels....
by boris the blade
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Nov 09, 2003 1:19:31 PM CST
At last a trailer that does exactlyy what it says on the tin
by taxman2001
This looks excellent. I may even forgive Wolfgang Petersen for the crap that was THE ERFECT STORM. And to all those naysayers who complained about the CGI - what do you expect? How else can the amarda shot be done? It's not like Petersen can travel through time to capture the actual moment on film. What next Lucas actually having real lightsabers and aliens in Episode III.
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Troy's main competition.
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YAY!
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I've never read the Iliad, a lamentable gap in my education which I mean to fill soon, but these "Greeks", are they all Spartans or what? Helen was Queen of Sparta, yes? But Sparta, though hard as nails, was an impoverished place and there's no way they had a big navy, Athens was the big naval power of the Greek city-states. So is this an alliance of all the Greek cities and if so then why? The Spartans and Athenians were at each other's throats much of the time and I fail to see why they should make common cause in this matter.
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Okay, Helen had 12 suitors, each one a King or prince of a province in Greece. Included among them were Achilles and Odysseus (In this movie they are using his Roman name Ulysses). They held a contest of a ring toss to see who would get her. Before Menaluas, brother of High King Agamemnon, won her hand, the other kings pledged their army's support to both her and her future husband. This was done because Helen was supposed to be so beautiful that it was believed the other suitors would kill the winner unless they were bound by a pledge of support. Thus the thousand ships came from every corner of Greece, not just Sparta.
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will wolfgang petersen finally be doing the adaptation to ender's game?
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yeah they're cg... so what? yeah there's a lot of them... so what? yeah they're laid out in a "precise geometric form"... so the fuck what? who gives a shit? honestly... you people fucking bitch about EVERYTHING. give it a rest already.
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Actually, if you add up the number of ships in the Iliad, thanks to the handy catalogue of ships, you get 1,186. Enough to fill up a seascape, if you ask me.
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I think not.
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The scores of ships in "Troy" are like the hundreds of Agent Smiths in "Matrix" and the thousands of monster insects in "Starship Troopers" and the hundreds of invading space ships in "Independence Day" and the scores of spiders in "Harry Potter" and the hundreds of rats in "Willard" and the thousands of army invaders in "Lord of the Rings." I guess its awesome, but do we live an age where we're supposed to drool like Pavlov's dog everytime somebody hits the "multiple copy images" on a computer? Is that all there is?
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quite frankly, i don't get the complaining about the cgi. as mentioned above, of course that many ships is cgi. furthermore, i'm not seeing the "perfect geometric spaces" that someone brought up. i see clusters of ships, not perfectly spaced. and they have different sails, showing the different areas that participated in the siege. it looks like they did their homework on the ships.
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Just kiddin'. Looked awesome, can't wait to see it. Historical epics rule.
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Nov 09, 2003 7:29:02 PM CST
http://media.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/troy/teaser_hi/teaser_a.mov
by general_patton
direct link:
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DEAR GREYELF RELOADED,
THE HISTROICALLY ACCURATE ARMOR YOU MENTIONED AS LOOKING STUPID WAS USED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT WORKED AT THAT TIME IN HISTORY. IT WAS FUNCTIONAL. FANTASY ARMOR IS NOT. IF WE COULD GO BACK IN TIME AND PRESENT THE GREEKS AND ROMANS WITH THE "FANTASY" ARMOR OF SOME MOVEIS BEING MADE TODAY, THEY WOULD PROBABLY CUT YOUR EYES OUT. OH, WAIT, THEY WOULD LAUGH AT YOU FIRST. THEN BEAT YOUR BLOODY CORPSE WITH ONE (OR BOTH) OF THEIR SANDALS. THEN CUT YOUR FINGERS OFF SO YOUR FUTURE SELF COULD NEVER POST ON THIS SITE AGAIN. ITS A MOVIE BASED ON POSSIBLY ACTUAL EVENTS. LETS USE ACTUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE WEAPONS AND ARMOR OF THAT TIME PERIOD. WHAT A CONCEPT.
AN EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU THINK:
ACHILLES WOULD KICK THE SHIT OUT OF NEO. SEE HOW STUPID THAT SOUNDS YOU FAG.
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It seems I must smite JMJ from the face of the earth. OK, I CAN TYPE IN CAPS TOO YOU FUCKING UNCLE FUCKING MAGGOT PUSSY EATING SISTER 8 YEAR OLD MOLESTING CORPSE RAPING WORM FEEDING EXCREMENT MILKSHAKE SIPPING MONKEY HEADED BABBOON COCK FACE RETARD. AHH, I FEEL BETTER NOW. what the fuck was the point of your post, your flaming for now god damn reason, you want to keep it up though, I got more for your punk ass, just flame me again you pussy. All I was saying is the armor in this movie looks drab, and your talking about using armor in events that that might have happened? You think this movie actually happened? Your a fucking spermfaced ball sack.
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Man, I'd rather watch "Lovette; double fuck" than this piece of shit movie. Yeah, she has huge tits, and gets plugged at the same time by two guys, then takes two wads of man-juice on her biggo titties. Yes, Lovette double fuck will win an oscar before lame ass Troy does.
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Nov 10, 2003 12:20:40 AM CST
I think it's high time for an Iliad or odyessy flick for this ce
by terry_1978
Granted Gladiator and Troy are all fine and good grounded in reality and all, but I'd actually like to see a greek myth brought to the screen with the technology available nowadays, yes in a Clash of the Titans-esque type way.
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If you check the Story section of the TROY website, you will notice that they misspelt "devastate". The fools! Now I have lost confidence in the damn movie. Thanks assholes!
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because you know they're going to leave out Patrokoles (sp?)(Achilles' man-partner so to speak) in this movie.
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I agree with the greek myth post above--they need to haul out a good clash 'o the titans-type movie with the full greek mythos behind it (gods/creatures and all) not just orlando.
And darkfalz, you sound like you're itchin for some serious manlove yourself.
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If the movie uses some of the mythology that surrounded the war (like the behind the scenes manipulations of Athena, Ares and Aphrodite), plus the legendary characteristics of the figures such as Achilles' indestructability and Odysseus' archery skills this could be VERY interesting. Otherwise, it'll just be another LOTR.
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Remember the teaser? Where the migrating creatures were perfectly spaced in formation/grid? Yeah. Whoever is in charge of the camera work on that shot should be fired, check out FF7 for a much better shot of a huge fleet of ships.
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When I first saw it I thought I agree they do look a bit fake and too evenly spaced, but the more i think about it, being a military operation and all, they probably would have been fairly evenly spaced. Its adds a sort of militariness to the ships formations I suppose. Still made me initially think ahh a cut and paste job! Other than the ships everything else in the trailer makes the movie seem bloody cool. Well, makes me want to see the movie anyhow!
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For those of you who don't know, Claire Forlani was attached to this film and was cast as Helen. Does anybody know why she either left the project or was removed from it? Her face would surely launch a thousand ships in my most humble opinion. The young lady they have now is lovely as well, but she's not the experienced actress like Ms. Forlani. Anybody have info. on this subject?
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Number of ships sent to Troy: 1196. Soldiers in each ship: 120. Achaeans who came: All of fuckin Greece plus Crete. Why: Paris of Troy had stolen Menelaus' wife Helen. Menelaus' brother was head honcho Agamemnon. ...................................... "The armies massing ... crowding thick and fast as the swarms of flies seething over the shepherd's stalls in the first spring days when the buckets flood with milk -- so many long-haired Achaeans swarmed across the plain to confront the Trojans, fired to smash their lines." - ILIAD book 2 lines 554-559 (Fagles)
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He rocked in Fight Club and 12 monkeys.
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anyone know who wrote the background music, or what its called? is it from another movie?
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from your comments I'm guessing you don't know that in ancient Greece faggotism was celebrated, that male beauty was admired, and figures such as Achilles were held up as examples of physical perfection to aspire to. In other words, back then men wanted to look like faggoty pretty boys.
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Nov 10, 2003 11:36:51 AM CST
This looks very good indeed. If you want to complain about bad,
by nottoo
In comparison between the imaging for Troy and that of Alexander the Great - the fay award goes clearly to Alexander. In fact, Aexander looks like one big swishy farce. It sure made me laugh a bit. Wjile not a died in the wool Pitt fan, I do love well-done historic epics and I'll definitely pay to see this one on the big screen next summer.
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Uh, the webmaster of WB or that site might want to change the title of that page to something else other than "test." Hehe.
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From Homer, that is. The figure of 1196 ships is almost certainly a huge exaggeration, and the ships of 1200 B.C. would have been little boats that held 30-40 men, not big galleys like the movie shows that were invented 800 years later. No Bronze Age empire could possibly feed an army of 140,000 men in one place (away from home, that is) for a month, much less ten years, and even if it could they'd all die of disease. 14,000 men would have been a strain even for a huge empire like Egypt. For more background on the subject see authors like Robert Drews (for late Bronze Age warfare) or Hans Delbruck (for how ancient authors hugely exaggerated the size of armies to make them sound more impressive.) But I'm not complaining, it does make for a more fun story and movie. And I for one thinks this looks cool as hell, Brad Pitt and all.
Oh yeah, and the Sparta you're thinking of with helots and the iron discipline and all that, as well as the big rivalry with Athens, was hundreds of years later as well, after they subjugated Messenia. Bronze Age Sparta was a different city - the later one was founded by Dorian invaders, not the Achaeans of Menelaus' day. In fact most things you probably think of when you think of ancient Greece would really be classical Greece, many hundreds of years after the Trojan War and the intervening dark age. -
Seriously, that would be cool!
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Yes, their formation looks a tad rigid but having just finished all the Patrick O'Brian novels I realise that station-keeping is very important in a fleet sailing together, it is now and it probably was then too. I'm no expert but I suspected those ships look too large and impressive to be realistic for nearly 3000 years ago. Still, looks cool and Brad Pitt can certainly act in my opinion.
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Nov 10, 2003 2:39:52 PM CST
Since all of you saw MATRIX REVOLUTIONS this weekend, you probab
by johhny be good
unless you are british and you don't get the same trailers as you yanks!! a little respect would be nice to all the U.K people that visit the site.
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Yes, I agree with Darth Hideous that ships of that size may have not been possible at that time. But you have to remember that the account of the story is taken from the Illiad. Of course some of the stuff mentioned within might be subject to speculation and criticism. Its mythology mixed with history. I had to read this fucking long ass piece of poetry-In Latin!!!!And then translate it into English! Take for example, that Crouching Tiger movie. Of course people can't fly from roof to roof or fight like that. But Peterson I guess is taking his material directly from the poetry, and although I'm not sure if he'll include the mythology, I guess he's basing his ships, armor, etc. on the poem. And by the way, this movie looks spectacular! (although I have reservations about Brad Pitt... but oh well)
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I was going for the Fitzgerald version which seems popular. Didn't T.E. Lawrence (of Arabia) do a translation or was that just The Odyssey? I would prefer a version in prose rather than verse form I think, and with explanatory notes.
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Nov 10, 2003 3:13:35 PM CST
Hi I'm Troy McClure! You might remember me from such historical
by mustang_dvs
Oh, *that* Troy! ... I miss Phil Hartman.
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if it turns out to be a piece of shite im personally taking out a bounty on his head for doing this instead of BvS.WHO"S WITH ME???
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By far the best translation I've ever read is the Fagles translation. I read a prose translation a number of years ago that left me feeling ambivalent, but when I recently read the Fagles, I was swept off my feet. It is a poetic version, but it moves so well that you don't even notice the line breaks unless they become vital, as they sometimes do. Anyone who's looking for a definitive version that is readily accessible should check it out.
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I'll check that one out.
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Right on the money. Fagles is the best. Don't go in for one of those lame-ass prose translations. They're flat. The movie isn't going to be as good as the book (duh) but I'm going to try and look at it as a completely seperate thing and keep an open mind. Could be a good action flick, even if it isn't faithful to the book. (In fact, it would almost HAVE to be unfaithful to the book to BE a good action flick.) The CGI looked okay to me. Didn't seem too uniform in its spacing, but I wasn't looking that closely either.
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Nov 10, 2003 4:54:42 PM CST
I love the fact that when you go to the official movie website i
by minderbinder
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Is your pizza an adaptation of the new Strokes album? What's the relationship between LOTR and The Strokes? Making comparisons in this case would be ridiculous, because there's no logical relationship between the items in question.
It's only natural to compare movie adaptations to the original sourcework, however. True, it's a different medium, but it claims to tell the same story. It's not an apples to apples comparison, certainly, but it's certainly not as far-fetched as you seem to be implying.
The fact is, there are some movies that come close to telling the story of the book almost exactly without comprimise. (The BBC miniseries of 'Brideshead Revisited' for example used a transcribed version of Waugh's novel as its shooting script.) These kinds of adaptations are rare, however, and that's why I mentioned that I'll be trying to look at the movie as an entirely different 'thing'. -
Don't be fucking haters! It is not the man's fault that he was blessed with good genes. Pitt was cool as fuck in Fight Club, 12 Monkeys, Snatch, Se7en, Kalifornia and Ocean's Eleven. Don't hate him because he has beter abs, money and fucks more bitches than all of you.
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Fucked up.
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Lord of the Rings Trilogy, Pirates of the Caribean and Troy...What the fuck is next? Porn?!
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Someone mentioned the word Troy being misspelled in the official movie website. Well, in the eighth line of the plot synopsis, a key word is misspelled. Can you talkackers spot it? Here's a hint: it's a verb. Have fun! Go see ELF!
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Someone said Troy looks like it is ripping off LOTR... Um hello isn't LOTR movies ripping off every knight movie and fantasy movie ever made? Because I don't care how many people bitch about this but TTT totally ripped off the battle sequence in The Army of Darkness(Best movie ever!)... So no talking of Rip off and LOTR in same phrase... Also Shrek 2 looks shitty and its gonna suck because it will have no heart in it like the first one. Screw Shrek 2 and bring on Spidey-2
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Are you trying to tell me the shoe-string budget, laughably fake (which is why I like Army of Darkness) end battle scene is being ripped off by Helm's Deep? The horror...the horror...of your comment.
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I read that funny comment about helms deep ripping off army of darkness. Now, before you think this is a flame, it is not. Actually, when I saw army of darness recently, I was like, huh, this kinda reminds me of a helms deep spoof. thats funny.
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I downloaded a direct link, but when I save it, it just saves this little movie that says I need quicktime 5. Anbody know how to save this puppy. I wanna play it full screen.
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I didn't know they were making a sequel to Gladiator. Nice.
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Go to moviebox(http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2004/ STUVWXYZ/Troy/trailer-page.html). They have a direct link to the trailer that you can right-click and save.
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Ugh! And the artwork on the movie title alone looks sooo amateur. HUNDREDS of sail barges all aligned in a perfectly symmetrical grid, all looking too much like lazy copy/paste work... Oh yeah, this film's gonna regroup the most groundbreaking distribution of male actors since The Godfather, and behing that a director that can do great things behind the camera, so maybe there's a chance it does'nt suck and does'nt become an epic version of Pearl Harbor.
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Exclusive to Talkbackers: Hey, we all know we were severely disappointed with AICG.com.
Well, I found a beta test site for video game rumors that's going to kick some major ass!!!!! It allows you to register and post video game rumors, while earning ratings based on how your rumors are received (like ebay)
Check it out. I wouldn't post anything, if I were you, until it launches. Like I said it's beta and not opened to the public yet (November 15 it says on the main URL)
It's going to kick AICG's ass. They have a live forum at the r00t url.
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Thanks dude, I wish they would do that here! Cool site!
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David Benioff (the screenwriter) said in an interview that the screenplay isn't based on The Iliad alone, but also on the Odyssey and other histories and writings by authors other than Homer. 'Troy' is the story of the Trojan war - it isn't the story of the Iliad. There won't be any mythology.
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Nov 11, 2003 2:04:59 AM CST
fuck this archaic board,Harry update this motherfucker,I'msick o
by princess steve
Greyelf Reloaded,the Roman armour that you see in Gladiator is quite close to the way a Legionaire would have looked on campaign along the German frontier,you try wearing sandals and a leather skirt in northen Europe during the winter and see how long it takes for your toes to turn black and drop off.
Troy looks pretty good to me and blond hair wasn't uncommon in ancient Greece or the Bulkans Alexander The Great(Macedonian) was blond.
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Nov 11, 2003 3:50:11 AM CST
All those people saying that LotR ripped off other movies...
by naughtiusmaximus
You are being sarcastic, aren't you? Just making sure. *** Troy looks pretty good, and as for the ships - well, it's an epic, and it's not out till next year so it might not be the finished shot - saying it's bad CGI at this stage might be a bit unfair. I'm quite impressed by the trailer, especially the shot of the warrior leaping in the air and stabbing with his sword. Still, trailers are designed to impress the potential audience, so I try to never read that much into them.
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well steve, I wasn't referring to the armor they wore in germania, I was more refering the the badass armor the emperor wore back in rome, and his praetorians looked badass, and I've never ever seen in any history book, or roman inspired movie where the roman armor looked as badass as it did in gladiator. so shut the fuck up you fucking retard, I was just making a simple observation, when all of you wannabe "educated on ancient armor" retards showed up talking all that shit.
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Talk amongst yourselves! Here's a subject. Glorious Quicktime, which is neither glorious nor quick. Discuss!
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The only reason I'm looking forward to seeing this movie is because of her part in it. It's about time someone in Hollywood gave her a high profile role, other than her brief appearance as Natalie Portman's handmaiden in AOTC. Mark my words: Years from now, she will be remembered long before the likes of Natalie or Keira!
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How do you mean Quicktime is not glorious? I mean, when you load a movie, you can rewind, fast forward, without any stupid "Rebuffering" crap, the picture (to me) looks much better, movies are usually a lot bigger in quicktime than in WMP (no teeny windows), Quicktime doesn't take up as much memory, and theres not as much lag as in WMP. And I've used it on a Mac and a PC. Thats the one thing I'm sure Mac is better at. So what do you mean Quicktime's no good?
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Ummm. You're joking right? Rome in the Trojan War?
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I was going to point out the irony in the idea that LOTR ripped off all the other knight and fantasy movies, but someone beat me to it... As for this crack: "If the movie uses some of the mythology that surrounded the war... this could be VERY interesting. Otherwise, it'll just be another LOTR." Huh? Yes, agreed; I hope Peterson got into the godly machinations and that we see some of that. That's much cooler than just a war movie (though it might be hard to play off). But "just another LOTR"? Excuse me? First, the "just" kills me. Like the LOTR movies aren't impressive. Second, LOTR _does_ have mythology. What do you think elves and sorcerers and the Dark Lord relate to? Historical events? Maybe I'm just confused... /Kyle out
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Well, it's visually pretty stunning. I am not bothered (on my small computer screen) by the shot of all the ships. Looks fine. Sure, looks like CGI, but um, what did you expect? (I'm so sick of this argument. Yeah, Spider-Man looked like CGI. Folks? He doesn't EXIST.) The battle scenes, or the tiny tiny clips in the trailer, look pretty marvelous. HIstorical accuracy? Well, I'm not a scholar of the era, so what do I know? Cinematically, it looks pretty good. Except... Why are so many of the shots so friggin' DARK? What is that? Annoying, really. I mean, if you're in a smoky tent at night, okay, but otherwise... (I know, nothing to do with historical accuracy, but it has everything to do with viewability. If I want shots where it's hard to see the actors, I can watch West Wing...) /Kyle out
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If you cluster all your boats together you end up with sails being blocked of wind because of impeded airflow, cavitation, and turbulence. Spreading out your ships in such a way as not to impede linear windflow would probably result in a fairly symmetrical pattern. Ah,the new hobby of filmgeeks: nitpicking EVERY little detail just to show you THINK you know more than the filmmakers. It's elitism on the small, small scale of life.
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Thats how Achilles dies you know...must be one vicious arrow
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Ok...go destroy Troy, but geez go kill Helen...especially this Helen
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Hmm..well I guess times change and our perception of beauty change w/ it
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As much as I hate to mention this, because moaning about the ship formation so long before the film's release is just bloody ridiculous, I'm more concerned about the fact that the ships appear to have no wake. They have bow breakers and a little slice from the tiller, but there is no discernable water turbulence and the ships seem to be going nowhere. This tells me the shot is incomplete because I doubt very much whether effects guys would be that stupid. Hopefully, the shot will be vastly different in the finished movie because I get the impression that a studio exec just stuck his head around the door and shouted 'we're doing a trailer on the internet six months prior to release, so give us what you've got!' *** On a side note, I kind of like the visuals as they stand. No doubt the negative will get that post production 'digital grading' but it looks okay as it is, from what I could tell from a small, internet-transmitted one minute trailer, at any rate. As a big fan of Homer (I'm suprised that no-one has done a 'D'oh!' yet) and classical history as a whole I had a few reservations, but to be honest we're going to get to see thousands of men beat the living shit out of each other for a couple of hours, so it gets my vote.
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So... I'm wrong. Care to tell me why? I'm not sure I can admit defeat to a single word.
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The teaser is quite cool but not as smashing as gladiator tease!
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